All-new Defender Review - Off road and in-depth in the new Land Rover
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Hello! Ciro here. This has to have been one of the toughest assignments in modern motoring: design and build a car to replace one of the most iconic cars ever made. The car which pretty much invented the idea of the SUV. The choice of hardcore adventurists the world over...the Land Rover Defender.
That is a weighty nameplate to carry. But the world has certainly changed a lot since 1948, when the Defender was first launched. So, how would Land Rover of today marry the best of times gone by, with the requirements of modern motorists?
This was also an incredibly tough assignment as a journalist, saying anything about the old Defender is fraught with danger, it's like reviewing a sacred cow. But we set out to provide the point of view of myself, someone who is happy to admit that 4x4ing is not one of my finest skills.
I hope you enjoy the video. Let me know what you think about the new Defender in the comments below.
0:00 Intro
1:20 4x4 off-road driving experience
4:50 Gearbox & Peak Torque figures
5:36 Comparison to the old Defender
7:34 Front Interior Design & Features
10:14 Rear Interior & Passenger Space
11:48 Boot Space, Features & Accessories
15:10 Pricing in South Africa
16:17 Closing opinion
17:52 Outro
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It wasn't a rule to have your arm out the window, it was a necessity as you couldn't fit your arm in the vehicle. 🤪
Honestly speaking I love the new Defender, I think my dad has had 6 in the last 35 years, including one with the crank in front, the only reason why he switched to land cruiser was because of load capacity but in terms of off road capability the defender outshines the more reliable cruiser, now all old defender owners will tell you the reason why their elbows were always out was because only really small people could fit in the defender, it also got really hot inside so my dad rubberised them to help with the heat, the seats were horrible but with the right suspension setup(Old Man Emu) my dad would throw the V8 into a hole throw it into first jump out and we would watch it crawl out on it's own(we thought it was magic) but it was great engine compression and a truly legendary vehicle doing what it knows best to bring smiles to our faces, that being said the last one he bought a few years ago he literally gave away because he couldn't sort out the fuelling system and the lucky bugger who bought it sorted it out immediately and 10 years later he still has it.
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Holly smokes, I nearly spilled my tea when you mentioned the price. 1M+ is insane!
Great video though, keep up the good work.
$92K US...........BAAAAAAHHAAA What a complete JOKE. You can buy a Land Cruiser for $$87K US and it actually works and the resale is crazy good. This Land Rover can be bought 3 years old for less than 1/2 of retail.
I'm glad you put the old defender in the video to make us see they look nothing alike. Maybe the roofline a bit but that's it... I would wait for the Grenadier now that's gonna be cool!
So instead of listening to the review I'm listening to Ciro's incredible way of presenting, so south african and refreshing. Good job dude 🤜🏽👏🏾
Yes, it looks and does what its built for, very well. But is it for real an overlanding vehicle? No. Too many electronics and ecu's. Too vulnerable to take from Cape Town to Cairo on the worst tracks imaginable. Anyway, it is geared to an urban audience looking for a status symbol. As a 4x4 enthusiast who has travelled a lot in Africa, I would not go near this vehicle. Perhaps an Ineos Grenadier, but for me, let's just say... Toyota. 'Nuff said.
Just curious, would you take a discovery 3 on that journey?
@@donmckee90 Absolutely not. In general, way to unreliable. I'm sure a LR Disco 3 could do it in principle, but personally I would not take that risk.
@@grantevans6597 what would you use as your modern day weapon of choice for such a trip?
@@pieterOD hi Pieter. I owned a Toyota Landcruiser 76 S/W with the 4,2 donkey diesel. It is slow for sure, but it would be my weapon of choice for a trans Africa overland. Africa was tamed by Land Cruiser, contrary to the claims by Land Rover that is was them. And as a consequence, should one's vehicle be in need of repair, Toyota parts are available everywhere. Having said that, in 8 years of travelling around Africa, including the roughest roads imaginable,my Land Cruiser did not once give me any issue whatsoever. This new Defender will not be able to do the same and when it is in need of repair, where will you find assistance "out there"?
@@grantevans6597 thanks for the reply Grant..i am always wondering what type of vehicle would be best suited. The land cruiser defs up there. I just dont like the idea of a 4.2liter engine but I think that would need to be put aside if you plan for such a trip.
I also feel like Land Rover dropped the ball heavy on the new defender which is basically a discovery. It feels like the era of big 4x4 are being replaced by these pavement SUV. I am.lookinh forward to that Ineos Grenadier thing but again untested.
Ill probaly just buy a hilux haha
As a 21 year old I still aspire for an old Defender but I love this one 😍 and so do the numerous people who seem to be buying them in Bedfordview
Look, I'm not a Landy fan but this new Defender is on a next level. In my opinion it's like you get supercars and hypercars this is like a hyper 4x4. I suppose the true test of this vehicle will come down to reliability, that will be the catelyst. Legendary or just another leaking, depreciating 4x4. 🤞
Check engine light came when these journalists where doing a video with a brand new one. Jaguar quality for sure ua-cam.com/video/BtdBunnvnq4/v-deo.html
"...so everybody can know you just bought a Land Rover, or you just bought a Land Rover bag." 🤣🤣🤣
Been reading the comments and a lot of people are complaining about reliability. Land Rover should take care of this problem.
But they have. There's the product. Who's to say it breaks
Reliability is tested over time. You can't say a car is reliable when it's still new.
@@maandamusetha3564 you are not referring to this car to start with. You said Land Rovers and I'm saying they have been proven to be reliable and still people are held up to that perception of old. There's lots of land Rover drivers and Jaguar drivers who outright speak of how reliable their modern jags/LR are. They aren't as unreliable as the other cars.
Dude, firstly, that was not my opinion, it's an opinion of people who have driven a Land Rover at some point. Now experiences of people differ. Those people who you spoke to are satisfied but we can't disregard those whose experiences are not similar to theirs. Let's nit have a blanket approach.
@@maandamusetha3564 I see it wasn't your opinion, it changed to be your opinion the moment you say land Rover must do something about this. You suggested or atleast insinuated not only that it was true BUT Land Rover SHOULD do something about. I'm saying they have done something about it. Hence the latest products. Unless it's your point that the reliability issues are much more recent or as recent as last month, yesterday. Two months back over the past 6 months or in Jan. I'm saying recent JLR products are redeeming themselves already. It's just the perception is still out there. It's hard to kill perception. In any case keep well.
Good effort by JLR. However, they should spend more time working on how to improve the reliability of their vehicles. No point in having "the most capable" SUV if it's going to spend most of it's time on a flat bed truck or in a mechanic workshop.
Ironically Jaguar reliability has been significantly better 😂
How do you know if the car is not reliable, when it just launched few months backs and its completely different power train?
Collin Phiri, there are already numerous examples in UK and USA for poor assembly and electrical issues reoccurring in the new Defender. Price and reliability will keep me away from this car.
@@Wilbargosh If youre referring to the powerfulUK probelm, they had a hose that was lose, genuine issue from the manufacturer and it was fixed in 10 miniutes. If youre referring to TFLC, they had an engine light come on. The vehicle didn't stop working and it is likely it was the fuel cap wasn't replaced correctly. They have sold over 40,000 units this year and so far are proving to be wonderful.
Aaron Adkins, there are more. JLR has a history of avoiding responsibility for reliability. In Australia JLR has lost court cases to consumers with unresolved car problems. If the new Defender sniffs of unreliability they won’t move enough units in the current global economy. Happy for you to give me a new Defender to test drive on Frazer Is Queensland Australia for a couple of weeks and see how we go?
The outside scenery is so beautiful
This new Defender is amazing. If Land Rover was reliable this would be a great buy.
Facts💯
True
@@Notha320 100% FACT !
O leka go reng ne monna
What do you drive and ever owned a brand new land rover before?
What a brilliant review, great natural presenting and funny whilst being informative....a new fan from the UK 🤘🏻😎(where it’s always cold)
Great review, I have no problems with the look and the materials on the inside are really cool, my biggest problem is reliability, not just with the defender, all Land Rovers have been in the spotlight lately on serious electrical and build quality faults, the defender used to be a vehicle you could keep for years, the new one with its air suspension and special fuel filters and predictably high service and maintenance costs will not last, this you buy for leisure only and I don't really think South Africans will part with over a million rand where most of their requirements are met with a korean suv that will last a whole while longer than this. Not well done JLR group, oh and dont forget resale value will drop worse than a stone in water !, JLR should have actually given it a different name and retired the defender badge
Is it a good car? Cannot wait to see one with 300 000km on the odo, without bankrupting the owner and being "beyond economic repair" value-wise...
Thanks from Canada for this review. Stellenbosch is spectacular!
Check out TFL car channel they bought one and it threw check engine light after going offroad once. A day after being fixed a whole bunch of toys stopped working (cameras, etc) and LR struggled to fix it. Eventually, an engineer was called in and diagnosed it as a problematic computer module which is now on backorder with no ETA. This is one a 1-week old defender. Yip, it seems the reliability concerns are justified. Such a shame.
Saw that. Laughed so hard. But ja. Typical hey.
Love reading the car enthusiasts conversations.
Amazing review and amazing car. Proper impressive Ciro, super entertaining.
Absolutely awesome review. I owned an old Defender, a tree fell on it, perfect ending for it. This review made me cry with laughter. Also pretty impressed by the new one if you have some spare change.
Great review for the UK, always had LR branded cars, love my new defender, they are incredibily capable and touch wood to date 100% reliable which makes a change!
Would love the rear view camera for reversing my boat off the ramp. Always a struggle
I appreciate the use of the imperial system☺
I'm absolutely in love with this car. Great review funny guy and super entertaining content on this video
Ciro giving another brilliant review!
0:38 So that confirms it; it's an All Wheel Drive - a designation reserved for crossovers and wannabees!
Can't wait for the 90 personally 👌🤩
Definitely looks like it is worth the money especially for off road ability if you will go off road.
Bruh that beautiful thing is R1.5 million
Bruh that beautiful thing is R1.5 million
Great review mate ,, love it
I have watched the reviews of this car over and over again I love the car.
Great review as customary. Ja I agree it's a completely different vehicle altogether and will not appeal to 4X4 enthusiasts. Taking nothing away from the vehicle itself it is brilliant in its own right. Too expensive though. 😅
The beast👌.... This car is beautiful nd powerful.. Big respect to Land Rover❤️💯
Loving the content so far!
Inlove with this new defender.... Should play lotto more
I think the old defender has its charms and its uses and if you took it off road it got dented it was part of the character of the vehicle with the new one if you get it dented when off road you’ll have to take it to a body shop when you get home I mean you can’t take a hammer out and bashed it back into shape and say that will do it on the old vehicle you could Time will tell give it a couple years and then have a review
I want to try this at Doornrivier 4x4 trail.
Its finally here. Looks great excited 😆
The design language doesn't scream, 'rugged' or 'take me anywhere', it says "middle class school carpooling to english boarding school".
I do need a car that I can take to a wild beach for kitesurfing, and yes this car screams take me to an undeveloped beach on the weekend. Carpooling? That’s Mazda CX-9 territory.
I think they needed to make the car more appealing to more urban drivers. The Defender is a premium big SUV and this segment is largely dominated by Toyota. They needed a car that has the standard off-road capabilities that a car in its segment has, but must also be friendly to urban drivers.
I like 4x4wing a lot.
So I was watching this think but my Jimny can do that.
Ironically the car I would like to but as an SUV is a XC90 because it doesn't pretend it can go off road and keep my Jimny.
Taking this into a trail however I am not sure I will be comfortable as capable as it is. Jimny However goes anywhere no drama involved
Great review
The ride is breathtaking 👀
hahahaha.... Terrify the kids.... the laugh at the end priceless
Great car and LR are generally great cars when they are running. I have the old Defender and had LRs for years, I just wish they can make them reliable.
Amazing technology, I do really like this car.
TFL bought a new 2020.
40 hours/ 140 miles later the engine service light came on.
The quality is always an issue with this product.
They got it back and its broken again lol
They are already looking at throwing it back after 21 days in the workshop , having only had it for 24 , they purchased the car , it is not a press car . Faults start appearing by themselves in the workshop . Be warned .
Its actually 500nm of torque. The d200 model sold in other countries has 430nm of torque
Start saving, may be I will be able to get the third edition....😂
By then it will be 2million 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Second hand 🖐
@@tbonesteak4961 I'll buy from you after you had it 2 years ne
You really can't blame Land Rover for making this car. This is what society has become. We want to be like Bear Grylls, but in reality we are more like Yogi Bear.
It's easy to watch your review bro
Honestly If the pricing was right I'd buy this. This is perfect for what i need. More than enough space for long journey's, enough power to pull a heavily loaded trailor, not worrying to much over the kids messing on the seats on long journey's because of the materials cleaning so easily, a good looking SUV with modern skin. The only big problem is.......... Yes, you guessed it, reliability. I guess it's to early to tell if this one joins the pack. If and when it's proven it's reliable in a couple of years, the price will probably so low that i could then afford it lol
I don't think its too early to tell. It's simple, the more complex systems they put in it the more likely it is to go wrong. This is now a very complex vehicle. I would love a simpler / cheaper model.
Well personally would not touch it no place near a hilux and its reliability every new broom sweeps clean....that's only good for a shopping mall statement . good luck let's see it at 600,000 kilos and 15 years time.....
🤣 you mean 60,000km . These things don't go for that long. Thats Toyota stuff
Jaguar/Land Rover vehicles are super unreliable.
@@nhlanhlaradebe8 You don't say LOL.
Who on earth wants to drive a vehicle for 15 years ... Every 3 years a new one. Simple...
1 Mil worth of technology and accessories, haikhona
The new Defender has really grown on me. I have watched just about every review out there and they are all glowing. Yes, there will be some teething problems, but at the price I hope JLR sort them out. I do laugh at all the old Defender owners worrying about ECUs etc. That’s the standard for any new car and it’s not like the old Defender has a reputation for being reliable... just easier to self fix.
...but, did it make it through the first day without breaking down?
I wish the looks were a bit more rugged... It looks like a cub, not a lion
Take it to a place like Welkom in the Free State just to see how it copes with a billion potholes 😅
It survived in Namibia desserts surely. Potholes are not a thing for it.
Hello Ciro, please tell us in your other reviews what if it's better to buy a car cash or installment,
Good idea. Would you like to see a whole separate video about this topic?
@@Carscoza I think that would be a good idea - the separate video
@@Carscoza different finance options, what is balloon payment, types of insurances and their advantages and disadvantages.
Lots of people have little knowledge about the topics mentioned above.
Always cash. Buy what you can afford, then save for the next one.
For that price I would just buy 3 regular double cab 4X4 bakkies and my transportation is sorted for the rest of my life 🤔
If I had the money, I'd buy a LR Disco Sport and use it for milf off-roading on rare occasions... or a Pajero Sport / Fortuner / MU-X / Everest for the same kind of use (on-road comfort for truck-based SUVs puts me a bit off).
I would perhaps buy a Defender from the 2nd hand market when LR releases the 3rd iteration of it and it is proven to be reliable from the start.
can we remove doors ?
no
I think I'm in love 😭😍😍♥️
Do you know if Ford is planning to bring the Bronco
Why the loud, distorting background music?
Nice review. Please review the new Jeep wrangler
🎶 What’s this...what’s this 🎶 there is space everywhere. 🎶 What’s this... what’s this... theres even a fridge in here.
they should have made it bulletproof
The only time I would even consider looking at this vehicle is if they had some sort of track record in the Dakar rally or if they can be fixed by the roadside in any African bush. Congratulations to JLR queen for winning the beauty contest, but for me the one and only real king of the off road jungle is the Toyota Landcruiser, just ask the hordes of real off road experts !
Land Rover cannot make a simple vehicle reliable, how on earth will this vehicle with its 85 ECUs be anything that resembles reliable. When the motor plan runs out it it will become the motoring equivalent of persona non grata
perfect suv
He is missing the boat with this car. It is totally in its own class. Just pure fun car for using around town. 70 kph on n free qay us a real no no. I think max km for shopping etc is maybe 50 ks. I live in Durbanville CT. Perfect for quick shopping and getting some milk. Protected from the elements. Poor evaluation of th car. Oh, where do you find a Polo for 70 K.
Missing the boat Sir. Let me evaluate the cars with you, then we will see.
Isn’t the reality that Land Rover needed to produce a successor to the old Defender that was at least as capable off-road as it’s predecessor and much, much better on road as well? It’s a bit like comparing modern architecture with a country cottage. Both have their place but in 2020/21 it would be crazy to be pulled into producing a Defender/Toyota/Nissan look alike clone. The Grenadier may be a neat clone of the old car but at its likely price with accessories it’s doubtful that it will appeal to farmers who seem to prefer Utes and old Toyotas. The previous Defender seems to have become a hobby car with all the pluses and minuses that entails. Credit to Land Rover for producing a new car that has reasonable looks and a class leading but simple interior and modern technology . The big question is now how reliable will it be?
i prefer the old defender to this new one, especially the limited version
Awesome vehicle but its too complex, the tech will go wrong sooner or later and will cost an arm and a leg to fix after the motor plan. It's another car to throw away after 5 years. I really hate where car companies are going. I really wish they will release a far simpler and cheaper version without all the electronics and toys. Like a bigger Jimny.
സൂപ്പർ brooo
Very nice car indeed,but at that price?Thks.
Looks like a crawling armor
After the TDI the defender was never the same
15:25 inline 6 not v6!
The reviewer is very cheeky and humorous,the popping arm stunt was hilarious,because it looks so out of place in the new Defender.
Land Rover
Service......
It's a fake Defender, but a real Discovery 5
Agree. Watch it cannibalise sales of the Disco 5.
It isn't a discovery 5 at all, might share some design features with the lr3, but that's as far as the two are related
@@tattttu9 You don't get it do you? This is what the Disco 5 should have been. It would have been a fine successor to the Disco 4, but not to the Defender. LR are making a huge mistake and left a gap in the market which will now be filled by the Ineos Grenadier.
@@philipjooste9075 I think you are the one not getting it, not understanding the Land rover family and their evolution. Just because the discovery 5 has a weird design doesn't make it a bad sucessor, in fact it is an astonishing car and perfectly carries what the discovery always standed for. If the new defender was the discovery 5 it would be a step back in the disco evolution and it would be untrue to its name
@@tattttu9 Well we are going to disagree on this one - the New Defender would have been a perfect evolutionary replacement for the Disco 4. Watch it cannibalise sales of the Discovery 5 - to the extent that it is likely to be dropped soon. The Disco 5 belongs in the Range Rover lineup but oh wait... that position is already taken up by the Range Rover Sport. Maybe Jaguar....?
Old one looks miiiiiiiiiilllllleeeeessss better
Let's wait for the ford bronco
Will wait for Grenadier. This is just a vamped up Disco. Should remove Defender badge
I like it diesel, Manuel and red colour.. Lol
Hie there Ciro. Great movie once again I do like very much your style of presenting all natural no pretence no fighting and nice face. I am 1.75m tall so iam just 1cm taller than you bud i dont thing itis a competition. I win. This car is a beauty! I do live near one so ido see it myself with my eyes and as i pulled up to one in my m5 car is say to theman lets go lets race you have a new car bud hedid note hear my voice my hewas sitting too high up to hear me so i pushed the music on and decided to leaveim alone itwas good fun. This car has so many things. I really appreicate your time and enjoyed this so much iwill make my enemy watch it with me she will not watch it but i will still ask i may note even ask for fear that she may thing itis opportunity for discussion. Must i buy this car?
No doubt the new defender is a better machine. In almost every way.
My main issue with it however is the more you dent it the uglier it will look.
With the old defender a dent was considered a beauty spot.
This is important if you want to take the car seriously off road.
It's such a pity that Land Rover has missed the goal. They have outpriced themselves completely. Only government officials can now afford Land/Range Rovers. I predict Defender will be dead within 5 years.
Please bring the Ford Bronco to SA - now THAT will sell.
And Ciro is an underrated superstar - even Elon Musk watches his reviews 😜
You mean paid for by the tax payers 😂 definitely they’ll be gunning for this car
Please cut the music. I came to watch the video and listen to the driver and vehicles. Thanks
Straight 6, not V6
It doesnt look tough. It looks too fancy for African bushes. Handles the terrain well though
The last real Land rover made was a series 3,these new stuff are computers on wheels,super sleek looking and super unreliable.
I got the Ranger Raptor instead. I do not need a SUV and the Ford is better value for the money IMO.
Put a few kilo’s on and see how many breakdowns you get 🤦🏿🙆🏿🤷🏾
0:28 Jeez, and I thought it saying Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S 4MATIC+ 4-Door Coupé was a long name. This one trumps it. Too many mouthfuls these days
Worst car ever!! It will break down in the middle of no where
In 1992 I took my first trip to Britain. I was 17. I bought two things. A pair of Pringle socks and a book on the history of the Defender. I love LR. This isn't a Defender. And like Harley Davidson trying to move production to Mexico, LR management is too dumb to realize 85% of customers buy the product because of the build heritage. People can suck up a charming busted British car. It's crap and Slovakian you say? No thanks. #no Slovakia hate, love me a Tatra.
THE ALL NEW PRETENDER......
I got the first comment
It is a Discovery in weekend clothes. Its not a Defender anymore nor the Defender ethos.