Apple River stabbing trial: Day 1 [FULL]
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- The first day of the Apple River stabbing trial included opening statements and two witnesses. Here's the first full day of testimony.
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It’s sad that this man is being imprisoned for defending himself against a mob mentality filled with aggravated assault
No it's not, that psycho belongs behind bars.
@@benfrese3573imagine you’re in your 50s in the river surrounded by over 10 young adults mobbing you. Pushing you into the water and striking you repeatedly. The one boy even ADMITS ON STAND he attempted to hold the elderly man UNDERWATER so the old man gutted him…. Seems like pretty cut and dry self defense to me
@@nicholasbelknap4106Gutted him. You said it yourself. I could see him defending himself, but when it comes to stabbing 2,3,4 people, then it’s no longer defense. It’s an attack. You believe a child deserves to be gutted for a bit of shoving and a light slap? What a goober
@@nicholasbelknap4106 Yes, he just dropped out of the sky and unfortunately ended up landing smack dab in their midst. Blame God for dropping him there.
Those punks learned a valuable lesson. Luckily, it was an old man they taunted and not some harden criminal. I believe the only reason they messed with him was because he was old. I doubt if it was some jacked 6ft tall man they wouldn't have said anything.
Wow this all happened so fast..... It's unbelievable that something can escalate so quickly and end so badly😮😮
This is why we don’t hang around young stupid people drinking alcohol.
And old stupid people drinking alcohol...
Yeah, he should’ve kept walking when he initially headed upstream back towards his group, instead of turning back & charging at the teens & grabbing their tubes. This is why you don’t hit a girl telling you to go away, while surrounded by drunk teens you claim to be in fear of you life of, that are all laughing & saying go away. Miu escalated the situation multiple times & had both the option & duty to retreat. He escalated the situation to violence by being the first commit assault. Ditching the weapon & lying to investigators show consciousness of guilt. If you stabbed anyone would you discard the knife, not tell anyone & lie after arrest?
@@abd5441 again …. This is WHY we DONT hang around young STUPID people drinking alcohol. I said what I said . Don’t gaf about your feelings. You weren’t there . Foh
AGAIN- this is WHY i DONT hang around young stupid people drinking alcohol. It NEVER ends well .
Idgaf what happened , I don’t put myself in situations like that . And yOU weren’t there. 🤡@abd
@@Venise7777good for you Karen.
After opening statements I don't think those kids deserved to be stabbed but I do believe the man felt intimidated by a mob. Glad I am not a juror.
A case of "fuck around and find out". Teens can be brutal but nobody should have lost their life. The kids should have minded their own business and the guy should have walked away.
I agree with you but he intentionally put himself in that situation which is why I believe he should be found guilty. I think pride got the best of him and he confronted them knowing he had a knife in his pocket and could use the excuse of self defense if it went that way. I don’t think he was scared up until he actually got his shit rocked in the water.
He also fucked around and is going to find out stabbing someone gets you life in prison because it’s clear as day this wasn’t self defense.
@@ricardocastro253I thought the same thing as you. I hope you watch the whole case. cuz they attacked him first no where in video is he hitting anybody they all jumped him. He was looking for his phone minding his business he got swarmed and litterally jumped. If I was that guy I wouldn’t have used a knife because I’m young and know how to fight but he’s old and clearly out of shape so he has every reason to be scared for his life in this situation. He didnt hit anybody or stab anybody until he got jumped.
@@donovahnnduhaney7608 Yeah I actually agree with everything you say. I do think he was scared for his life and was being attacked but context should matter and I think he put himself in that situation INTENTIONALLY when he easily could have avoided the whole thing. Some people love confrontation when they're adrenaline is up. And I come to that conclusion because he RAN up on them in a threatening manner grabbing at their tubes knocking them off. At that point he made first contact when he didn't have to in my eyes. That's regardless if they were screaming at him... doesn't give someone the right to come at you like that. And theyre saying he threw the first punch on top of that. There were just too many opportunities for the stabbing to be avoided and although those kids did antagonize him the old guy also made choices that lead to death which he should be held accountable for.
@@donovahnnduhaney7608 and I will be watch the whole trial. Need to catch up to day 2 and 3 later.
And this doesnt matter in terms of finding him guilty or not but I do have a feeling he was being a creep and checking out girls. The water is knee deep if that and it doesn't appear to be that murky so why the snorkel? I might have missed this but was the phone ever found or was it proven he lost it at the river?
Unfortunately when you Fuck around you have no way of knowing the level of Find out you're going to experience.
Yup. You don't know who you messing around with. They could have a gun and a crazy man/woman
He was trying to molest the girls. And he murdered to keep that a secret.
Poppopp
You're right. He'll definitely find out when he spends the rest of his life in prison!
That freaking part!!!!
Whoever constantly clicking his ballpoint pen QUIT
I also hear someone typing. I'm assuming its the court reporter. It is annoying and distracting.
Clicker pens should be illegal for attorneys to own
@@robincunningham8366I believe it is the prosecutor with the typing because I kept paying attention to the clicking and it synched with his. It was annoying lol
I think it is clicking the video frames forward with a mouse or keyboard, not a pen. Not nearly as concerning as picking up the whispering from the attorneys’ tables but maybe the same hot mics.
@@mimito3boys heck why not a potus exec order outlawing clicker pens for all Americans. of course the invaders would continue to carry them 😂
These videos are so interesting. Seeing all the work lawyers do before trials, now it makes sense why it takes years before a trial starts..
And they have multiple cases going on
I know, and how do they manage all the different cases, and also get paid on a routine basis
Nothing good ever comes out of drinking and drugs
Especially while being young. Already cant control your impulses and actions.
Those drunken teenagers had choices they didn't have to keep harassing him. I'm sorry but they're wrong. Next time they won't mess with somebody like that hopefully!
I couldn't understand how someone could just stab people for any reason, until I found out he's a Mexican. I'm 61 and grew up in East LA and there is nothing like Mexicans for going around stabbing people with knifes for little or no reason. I've seen it hundreds of times. I've had them pull switchblades on me several times for no reason.
Not true.
@@wilsal2485 you must live off the government to make a statement such as this
Lmao lawyer really said "he's good with tools he hangs out with tools" lol I bet he does!
Alcohol + Idiots = Disaster.
I feel bad for ALL involved. It was a very unfortunate thing all around.
I know one thing. If I am ever in trouble, I want the defendant's lawyer! I think the evidence so far shows that it was reasonable for him to be intimidated. I am not saying what he did as a result was okay, but it does indicate he had a reasonable doubt for his safety. When this case first happened, the media made it seem like a mad man with a machete started randomly attacking young people. So, I went into it already convinced the guy did things just like they said. We don't live too far from here and it is a big party venue. Many people are out of control with their drinking and there are fights. If you have teens, it is best not to let them go tubing unless at least one responsible adult is with their group and is nearby.
He was that’s why he had his hand on the knife from the start because he wanted to use it
The defense lawyer got on my nerves with the number of times he said “right?” I lost count.
He's reincarnated Rasputin the murdering mad monk! Just look at him smirking! He wasn't scared. He was a predator like a 🐊 in the water. Kids had no chance!
Being called names by a bunch of teens isn't intimidating or else he would've left. Instead he stayed and stabbed 5 people.
@@fatee5069 💯 He also could have shown the knife as a warning at any point which I'm absolutely sure would've caused those kids to back tf off. Instead, he chose to slay some defenseless kids.. literally the only thing they had as a weapon was a freaking inner tube. It's wild to me that so many people are defending this dude.
I’m conflicted. He should have just left. But he didn’t. Then at one point they did mob him and I also would have feared for my life. But. I still haven’t seen enough. It’s just tragic a child lost his life over absolutely nothing. This should never have happened.
Absolutely 💯 agree
Mr Miu is the victim though. These kids didn't need to even acknowledge Him and thought they could flip the script being the victim as predators
@@bromontana8100he could have simply answered them .. not to mention as a 50 something year old man you should know better then to let teenagers get best of you.. although i agree the kids were being a holes .. that’s not illegal .. that man could’ve walked away multiple times . yet he stayed and now so many people are suffering.
I agree. Both parties did not handle this situation well at all. No one in this had a clear head. This is a tough one.
I’m conflicted. Kids should have just left. But they didn’t. Then at one point they did mob him and I also would have feared for my life. But. I still haven’t seen enough. It’s not tragic an almost mature and clearly responsible young lad lost his life over absolutely nothing. Things like this always happened.
Not guilty of 1st degree…JMO
Agreed
He harassed and killed people.
Both parties are wrong if you can't see that then something is wrong
@@Buffalo_SLiMwho started this fiasco?
@@EricaBaker2023🤦 really?.... obviously the old man
One of the drunken youths started calling Miu a pedophile and that incited the crowd's anger and hate against Miu. Things escalated from there. 😢
Yes but Miu was the attacker. The kids being jerks is not legal grounds for lethal use of force.
@@GeofenceVictimHe was attacked fell into the water where was still being attacked. He defended himself. He's on his back in the water being hit by multiple people he didn't know what was going to happen he panicked and defended himself. These guys stories are different than what they reported and different than what the video shows. They conveniently only remember what they want to remember to make their story. Their liars they pursued and attacked this man. The man fought back now their scared little kids. Instead of taking responsibility for taking part in their friends death they are trying to hang this man for their mistakes. They should be charged.
@@GeofenceVictim
Miu was looking for a lost phone. The drunken youths harassed then attacked him. He then defended himself. The big question is, who threw the first punch?
@@Paul-fq4mm the problem is he was carrying a knife and killed and injured others - why oh why carry a knife.If everyone went around stabbing for being yelled at, well there’d be dozens of murders daily . Plus Miu is an adult and SHOULD HAVE walked away🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🙄🙄
@@GeofenceVictimare you mentally impaired ?
I don’t think a 54 y/o man is an “old man”. Everyone knows that a bunch of drunk teenagers usually act like idiots. A grown man should have enough since to turn around and walk away and definitely not pull a weapon. After drawing blood he should have definitely know he had gone to far, unless he has an anger issue he can’t control.
He was surrounded by a drunken group of teenagers mocking him, pushing him down into the water and holding him down ... if you try to hold me down in the water i would think you're trying to kill me! but i don't carry knives nor guns so i would have no way to defend myself so i would have to use my words ~ HELP HELP HELP
@@JaneDoe-tr5xy Exactly, If not for the knife the people who went to help, may have had to throw a few punches but, everyone would be alive.
His lawyer is calling him an old man all the time. To make him more like a victim. I am 54 and I'm watching this...like wtf. I don't feel old😂😂😂
@@yvonnedeboer7535yep.. that’s pretty young!
@@JAJJABLOG 😂I know
Wonder how different this would’ve gone if alcohol had not been a factor 🤔 who gave the minors alcohol? They should definitely face charges as well imo
Yeah the elephant in the room...😮
I’ve been waiting for them to ask the question “who bought the alcohol” I seriously agree about charges.
@@JAJJABLOG ME TOO!!!!
@@astrialindah2773😊😊😊😅😅😅
Alcohol does crazy things to people. I had a family member black out and physically assault me for no reason. There was nothing to provoke such a thing. I just remember feeling my hair at the back of my head getting torn out, I was on the floor, protecting my face from getting kicked in. I’ve never given anyone a reason in my life to hurt me like that. I will never trust another drunk again, for any reason.
This happens to be the most unprepared prosecutor ever!
Self Defense 💯. Didnt see him hit the “woman”, there is no proof of that whatsoever. He got attacked 1st. Once they pushed him down, smacked him in the face and continuously pushed him down, they are the aggresors. When a mob comes after you like a pack of hyenas, you gotta do what you gotta do. Not guilty. These kids are stupid and intoxicated. He doesnt know what they will do once it started, they could have drowned him if he didn’t defend himself.
I agree. They seemed to think it was a joke. There is no way you can use goggle to look at people under water in a river.
Attorneys are getting so good at argument, a jury has to be brilliant to know what to decide. Anxious to hear the entire story.
these teens taunted him. he responded in a drunken stuper by coming to them. he could have just stayed away. i myself have been in simalar situation but walked away. I was at a park and taunted by a bunch of people who i gave no reason to mouth off to me. I was walking my dog and they didn't like my little 25lbs dog cause he is aggressive. I had him on leash and they still taunted me. What did I do? I walked away and said nothing to them. Probably 15 people drunk in a state park where no drinking is allowed. All you have to do is walk away. God Bless the victims family. They will never see or hear him again.😪😪😪😪😪
that’s because you have common sense, wherewithal, and are not consumed with pride. I’m sorry those people hassled you, especially while you were out with your pup.
Your reaction may have been different if ppl surrounded & punched you.
He was NOT DRUNK YOU HEAR ANYTHING..??
Well maybe one day. I believe in God's word and I hope they all are doing ok 2😊
@@kyleanderson2949
Me to one of my brothers friends got in a fight when he was walking his little . He was huge.
He came to me to patch him up so he wouldn't have go to dr.s or hospital. He had family working there and he didn't want them to know.
I ask about the other 2
He said . They would definitely have to go to the e.r. goodness mens pride.
Wow this video does not help the prosecution... says it all to me
?????? What the heck are you smoking? A guy slapping a woman, hiding a knife by his side, slicing it from the belly to the throat of one kid and slashing the others all while smirking like he's superior to them? I guess the rest of the jurors were thankfully not biased in the way you seem to be. Wow. Just can't believe anybody would think anything this guy did was justified. Maybe yelling back. Maybe even hitting one of the GUYS. MAYBE getting into a brawl. But pulling out your concealed knife and attempting to murder them all? C'mon people... I just can't with the "victim" mentality here....
@@paulschooping5421
Ty Paul well put. I feel that he could have walked away
And at one point t he ran back to the tube
He wanted to show something
I'm wish it had never happened
.have a very nice day sir
I can hear the prosecutor whispering the questions to the prosecutor asking the questions. Is the prosecutor in training during the trial?
I don’t know specifically because I don’t know much about this case, but it’s pretty common for someone to be keeping track/adding/subtracting/changing the order of questions as each witness answers so the other lawyer can concentrate on presenting each question with clarity. It’s really unlikely it’s any sort of training. Law clerks/interns can participate in active cases, but it would be really weird if that was going on for a big, publicly available case. Regardless, would’ve been great if somebody in audio figured that out and didn’t allow the mics to pick up constant whispering lol
Not guilty at all!! Shame on thess young adult's!
My opinion has massively changed after witnessing the video. This guy stabbed one kid in the gut and pulled the knife upward…that takes some thought and effort. Whether he felt threatened or not, the rowdy kids/young adults didn’t have weapons, this was overkill. He literally brought a knife to a fist fight. Neither group is in the right but I do wonder about Mr Miu’s thoughts and intentions…he IS smiling at some point and seemed to be very calm and controlled after the stabbings, not devastated by his actions or frightened enough to call police or approach them when he saw them. He would have walked off and gone home no issue. His wife is a sour-faced lump of belligerent misery too.
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"pulled the knife upward" - can you prove that? because I don't see it and I've watched the video... a lot. that kid with the abdominal scar was worked on by our fine medical experts who gave him the scar he ended up with. so sad.
Yesw his wife is, the old saying birds of s feather...... etc yes?
He didn't pull it upwards that guy was pushing backwards he was meditating when he meditated the knife went upwards. Notice anybody that got stabbed was coming at him he didn't chase anybody. Facts matter.
I just feel he didn't come for a fight.
I get tired of everyone trying to justify their behavior ohctheir just 17 year old boys. Quit making excuses this is why things happen like this they belive they can do what they want with no consequences
You’re so dumb you don’t see the irony! 😂 The same applies to the old guy as well. He’s about to find out his actions have consequences too. Life in prison
@@PeepingEarsthat justifies ANY human defending themselves.
@nanacakes110. . So in your view it's just kids being kids??
if you need someone to be charged the adult who let them drink should be the one charged he wasnt supervising some kids he got drunk.@@PeepingEars
@@PeepingEarsOMG it’s your attitude that allows this horrid little generation get away with anything they do…no consequences.. no fault… no penalty. It is the worst tragic outcome and this man shouldn’t go without punishment…but people need to stop mollycoddling kids… teach them right from wrong punish them when misbehaving and for the love of god love them
The defense needs to close out with the video footage slowed all the way down and without sound and allow the jury to make their decision based on the video, evidence and the testimony that they have seen.
I agree 100%
No brainer. Self-defense. Freaking youth has no respect for older people, if knife is what it takes to teach it, then so be it.
Not guilty self defence , disparity of force
What mind blowing is people don't understand that. The claim "it was just a fist fight" implies, if the 50 something year old fat man, post massive heart surgery, in a river, can defend himself against a group of young boys by hand, he must be subject to a life threatening beating. That is insanity
The people saying this guy is innocent and "self defense" yall need to get your head checked. Both parties were in the wrong but Miu is not innocent.... if he was he wouldve told the police the truth. What was clearly shown on the video and what he told the cops were two wildly different stories. 49:59
I can’t believe the idiots here saying self defense. Yea if he would’ve started walking away and they kept on harassing maybe. He just stayed there. AFTER walking up to them. You can call anyone a pedophile. Doesn’t mean you can assault them. He wanted an altercation and look at him now. Now he’s not going to worry about being called a pedo, he’s actually a murderer now.
@@Alainn305😂 he did walk away and they followed him. What fking video are you watching? It was self defense. End of story
@@apriltortorici9810 Clearly in the beginning he came to the boys while they were laying on their tubes with his knife out. He should have ignored them and not approached them.
@@Alainn305 it's a public space he is allowed to stand near them
@@user-rb8nc7gb9uhe came to them because he thought his friend dropped a phone in that area
This first young man is traumatized from the event you can see it on his face. My heart breaks for all involved.
They decided to attack and intimidate a 50 yo man.
He is an idiot
It was stated that Isaac had a BAC of .22. If the dude weighed 150lbs then he'd have to consumed close to eight beers to have that kind of BAC. His friends claimed that he was the "most sober of the group".
How's that relevant? Lmao
Drunk and stoned people make crappy decisions.@@fatee5069
they are a liars
Who cares?
@@user-lv7op1lu6o eh the jury?
They are going to find this guy guilty right off the bat. He should never have lied during his police interview. He also apparently got rid of the knife. This is just a horrible case. Crazy how people react when they have been drinking.
Agree. I don’t think his defense attorney is helping by continually referring to the teens trying to humiliate him. Imho that’s why he turned back towards them early on, put his snorkel in his mouth & both hands on one’s tube, out of humiliation. His atty claims he wasn’t drunk but, returned because he saw one holding a phone he thought might have been the phone he was looking for? Yeah, right. Also, his atty exaggerates an open hand slap he received & downplays him hitting the female. It probably was an open hand slap (both were) but, in the moment the crowd was yelling about him hitting (either way, slap or worse is still “hit”) the girl. The atty tried to make it sound like they made it up while talking to police. Imho only one atty seems to be reaching, twisting the facts to fit a narrative, making many assumptions, the defense. If I stabbed someone in self defense I’d call 911. Defendant showed consciousness of guilt.
You must have not listened very well. What sounded like this guy was going to prison actually turned out to be the victim. These kids started it and they lost a friend because of it
plus, he calmly got the knife out of his pocket, he planned it in those few seconds; he knew exactly what he did;
@@bromontana8100 Who was the first person to escalate the situation into a physical altercation? Miu when he hit the girl. You can’t seriously believe he feared for his life before anyone had touched him & they were laughing at him & telling him to go away. Even if he feared for his life, he had the option & duty to retreat. He chose to hit first instead of walking away, as they were repeatedly saying, “Go, get out of here, leave them/us alone.” Amazing how people let their biases defeat their logic, values & respect for the law.
Alcohol - the elixir of crap decisions.
The video tells the story - they became an angry mob and attacked the guy.
Guilty!!!why was he not with his group, he could have left. He had plenty of opportunity to leave. Choices.
If you listen to the defense and watch the video, he was cornered and the mob turned violent. It was self defense 100% the video is clear as can be
Everybody forgets to mention how scary it is when you're in the water and people are pushing you down or pulling you down when you're just playing around now imagine being around so many angry drunk and high teenagers bigger than you? I honestly put myself in Nick's shoes and I feel like I want to get anxiety.
Get u voted biden
That’s what I mentioned in another video he was terrified did you know they look like they were going to drown them there like they were lynching mob they found Frankenstein you know meanwhile Frankenstein never touched that little girl they’re yelling out pedophile rapist that’s scary that’s the most disgusting person in the world and they’re calling it at him and people are in a mob did terrified for the children they want to kill the monster that’s like scream in shark 🦈 and there’s no shark 🦈 I say it was the black guy that was videotaping his faults poor Isaac is not here today because of that man that enticed the riot gathered his little mob to attack this man to get a video so that he can get paid $1000 on UA-cam I feel so bad for Nicholas his mommy it’s a horrible situation what happened may he rest in peace I feel so awful I want to know what happens because I see an innocent man it’s gonna go to jail for his life if people don’t realize what part they had in this
I get it Nic was pushed and shoved in the water 2 times with 13 drunk/ high teenagers and inner- tubes surrounding him, shouting, cussing and harassing him. He made a bad/ prideful decision to bring out the knife. Split second choices and someone dies. Why was he even around the kids in that area, not speaking acting weirdly?
Many were in their twenties ⁉️⁉️
@@CaraMills0106 The teens were laughing, weren’t angry until he hit the girl. She was yelling at him but, yelling for him to leave, as the evens had been. In that moment, he could’ve walked away, instead he chose to hit the girl. He was the first to commit assault, he escalated the situation to violence. Can’t create a threatening situation, then claim self defense. He also had a duty (& many opportunities) to retreat.
“a person who initiates an attack cannot claim self-defense if the other party responds with force to protect themselves.” He hit a woman first!
I seen her grab his arm. She don't know him. Don't touch people u don't know.
Yeah right, even though there's no video proof of him striking a woman.....🙄
Maddi put hands on him first! Watch the trial.. it shows. Even RM said that was Maddis hand bc of the black fingernail polish
@@jpjpthatguy9513 he ran up on those boys first and initiated contact. He should have walked away at that point instead of charging them. Who’s the adult here?
@@astrialindah2773 many witnesses testified under oath that they saw him hit her. If there were no video at all his goose would be cooked from the start. At least all the evidence is fair.
He innocent. Self defense
Our news/social media culture is constantly telling us we should be afraid. Afraid of everything and everyone. This is unsustainable and woefully destructive. “He’s a pedophile,” believing teens are scary. Where are we headed as a country?
The guy should have left and went back to his group where his wife and friends were. Somebody tells you to leave them alone you don't stick around. If that would have been my wife she would have been there somthing wasn't right between them.
Self Defence. Not guilty.
Wow never seen a comment section about a case so mixed... will watch the trial and come to my own opinion...
I agree. I need to see the WHOLE thing before I can come to an educated answer.
The “kids” must have been very close in order to be stabbed with a 3” knife. I’m sorry for those who were hurt & killed but I believe this was self defense. I think it all started because the kids wanted to get a reaction from Nick for views. I’m just glad I’m not a juror.
it’s funny how the group of boy who literally started it yet the da has the audacity to say Why didn’t the victim just walk away why didn’t he just obey a bunch of aggressive males ?? BUT WHY DIDNT THEY JUST WALK AWAY can’t believe the da even brought chargers 🤦🏻♀️ this is a clown show
Honest to God, now having watched the video in real time, any adult who comments on this video whining about a bunch of drunk teens... you're sick in the head. Period.
Most weren't teens though. So it's sick to defend yourself now?
@@ryand141he stabbed everyone he could find in that moment. Then hid the weapon, tried to evade police and flat out lied to them multiple times regarding his involvement. Old dude needs to go away for a solid 25 for this one. No good time.
I agree! The man clearly walked towards the kids with his knife out while they were laying on their tubes, when he could have just ignored them.
@@ryand141most weren’t teens but they were far more younger than him…
Either way you look at it, this proves you don’t always get wiser with age. 🤷🏻♀️
I like that the defense attorney is speaking to the young man as if he is a man. He doesn't coddle him. He is being real.
All these commentators saying they would have done it differently. Most people don’t know until they are surrounded by numerous people who are ganging up on them, threatening them and cornered. Drunken, bullies at that. A crowd like that becomes a mob when they decide to antagonize and threaten.
Why did the kid keep videoing while his friend Isaac was right next to him bleeding out? Why not try to help Isaac? Heartless.
The phone was on a landyard in a protective pouch around his neck.. he started recording and it was just dangling there. He wasn’t holding the phone the entire time.
Stupid. Those drunk kids started the fiasco by calling him as a pedofile, he was then pushed and punched making him fear for his life. Now the perp actions after the stabing was wrong, he shoulda stayed and defended his actions. Those kids were cowards even failing to assist their fallen friends, useless they just wailed and watch one die in frint of them.
For proof of what happened to get justice for his friend. The video will put him Away!!!!
@@snowflakesandsnowstorms3434what an idiot
So sad that this happens a lot. It even happend to me. Not that I was stabbed! But that bystanders, even friends record you instead of helping you.
Now,,,we are prosecuting others for defending themselves. 😢😢😢 these ppl attacked this man and he defeneded himself. And these small town uneducated ppl convicted him for it. DISGUSTING!!!
People who think he's not guilty are insane. Walked up and created the altercation had hand on his knife in preparation, began stabbing wildly when he lost ground, didn't flee in fear or panic for his life just walked away into the sunset like a fucking hitman.
They ganged up on him and tried to drown him for absolutely no reason they should have been offering to help him look for his phone they were supposedly business people I wouldn't want to do business with any of those punks
Tried to drown him ? Please 😂 with all those “teenagers” around him, if they really wanted to drown the older man, they would’ve . He wouldn’t have had a chance if that was there actual intent . Be realistic and stop just saying shit to sound smart . You act like these teens were out looking for him and caused a scene . That man clearly went over to a area the teens were occupying, and we know what takes place after that. Had that man minded his business and left them damn kids alone, we wouldn’t be having this conversation now would be. Both sides could’ve handled things way differently but if one was to point the finger, how could you not point in the direction of the person who created the situation to begin with. Be for real .
@@pacmanAce don't jump too far with your logic nobody said WHAT kind of trouble they were looking for that day.
yes they were pushing him down in the water repeatedly. Attempted murder. if they felt so threatened by some guy looking for 18 year old girls lol.
Which was a straight up lie because every one of them is lying especially the one who said oh I had experienced arbitrating fights with grade school so that's what I was trying to do yeah okay buddy sure we believe you hopefully said no juror I guess it's the same with him feeling threatened and he's getting attempted murder charges on the punks who didn't die. They've had 18 months to get this BS story together and the only one smart enough to say she was so drunk she absolutely does not remember is the old blonde girl with the warts on her face
@@deadmanswife3625 I see you overlooked a lot of what I said with the way you responded lol . NOBODY needed to say whether they were looking for trouble or not. The fact is they were in their own group and space, not bothering anyone. And the whole reason the situation even became one is because the older man invades there group and then both side made poor decisions to handle the situation. Again not to excuse how the teens escalated things by bullying the man but cmon seriously.. the video shows clear as day that there’s literally nobody behind him the moment he pulls the knife out . Which means he was not cornered, and if he really felt like his life was “in danger” at that moment, he had plenty of space to leave the situation. He chose not to. Not to mention he also did not brandish his knife nor give any verbal warnings which will make his defense much more difficult in terms of self defense. Plus never looks good to lie to police and Ditch the murder weapon after the fact 😊
@@pacmanAce I'm waiting to see how the murder weapon was ditched.
These are professing "businessmen "
Should've asked if they could help the approaching stranger.
The government should get a refund for that tuition.
In any case it's up to the jury.
I know no one who acted that way at that age.
My parents never allowed comingling with that mob attitude. They got a lot wrong but I think they got that strictly enforced rule correct. Great chatting with you Ace ❤😊♠️
Also he told police the kids pull knives on him and they didnt talk about that how he lied to police about the kids have weapons
@jessicaparks9495 did you read what I wrote...I didn't say the kids had knives.....he told police the kids had pulled knives on him when police first question him......bless your heart you can't read
@jessicaparks9495read comments properly before you make (incorrect) comments…
He's guilty to bad they didn't get recording earlier of him bothering you g girls swimming under their tubes looking at them. Those boys came to help line they should when you hear someone yell for help
he didnt tell the police they all had knives, dont lie
It doesn't matter Cassandra. He was attacked. It's on video. He was surrounded. I can't imagine being in that position. He's getting off. Self defense. Those animals and "adults" need self control. It's pathetic
They tried to lynch a guy because he was a suspected pedo rapist for snorkeling.How dare he snorkel 😱
Clearly he was looking in the water for some kids! They tend to gravitate towards places children hang out like parks, schools, bottom of a riverbed….
@@tinawindham6958😂
@@tinawindham6958 exactly..i took it as a joke(if it even happened). apparently the kids took it literally
@@tinawindham6958no females were there initially... He was looking for cell phone and the water was 10 inches so the most he would see is ankles!
@@ddbug7342yes if he said it at all… it would’ve been sarcasm…stupid thing to say to drunk teens but nevertheless he was being obnoxious as well
Glad this channel shows everything unlike @courttv
Yes! CourtTV is in the dumps. CourtTV also has a guest on frequently who is a content creator on YT who is very abusive to his viewers, moderators, subscribers, etc... He has no legal background and no law enforcement experience or credentials and no military experience. He covers True Crime and is the ultimate tragedy pimp, constantly begging for money. It's disgusting. Ever since CourtTV has placed him into their rotation (seems to be weekly) I have lost all respect of CourtTV. The creators name rhymes with Fillet Clues (Investigates).
If Wi had “stand your ground,” it would be considered self defense. Who knows how it would have ended if he didn’t have a knife. The whole think is tragic! And they were loaded and out of control. Truly a tragic situation; with life long consequences.
The fact you don't means his actions were not justified
Who had a right to tell him to leave a river?
Right!!!
The fact that Mr Miu lied and lied and lied some more tells me the stabbings were not in self defense. He threw the knife away! And if you really look at the pictures, Mr Miu does not look scared, he looks crazy.
bingo
If you look at the video, the kids look less afraid.
@@strawbricketteshortcake5460what’s your point?
He had no reason to lie. It's all on video. I can see why he would. Based on the actual events the guy protected himself. He was surrounded by these animals. Disgusting that he was even arrested. No way he will be found guilty
The kids look and sound crazy. He walked away. He was surrounded by animals. Drunk animals. He jabbed them.. maybe they shouldn't have been so close to him
The defendant's lawyer has a much stronger appeal than the state has. The defendant is not guilty of first-degree murder. That's my opinion.
Yeah maybe should have went for 2nd degree I don't feel the malice or intent is there but will see
m,any times they will charge for things they know wont get a conviction on because they really dont want one...and lets remember we had jury last year render a not guilty on delivery driver shooting an unarmed youtube prankster..which clearly the law saaid was not self defense ..people are getting sick of people harassing people for social media views
@@user4177 that prankster wouldn't let him walk away. That was a self defense case also. Had he not blocked his exit. Different story
@@probrickgamer dude theres video the pranjster did noy impede his movement he said stuff to him as he walked..again there is video of the entire altercation from the ytuber not one lawyer said he should have gotten off look at all the reviews of the case its now used as a prime example how jurys can do what they want regardless of facts
NOT GUILTY AT ALL
Engineer guy believes a phone dropped in the water will flow downstream…. Sounds like bullshit to me
THANK YOU! You took the words right out my mouth!!
And even when his friend said “don’t worry about it, I have insurance on it”
It was noted in the opening statement of the defence that at least one phone was in a waterproof phone pouch, which are specifically made to float. I have one. It floats. So, “engineer guy” was correct that the phone could have flowed/floated downstream.
@Sbollocks creamingWild
Except that’s what actually happened. The phone was later found downstream and retrieved so…
@@Missglam67 huh. Interesting. I wouldn’t have thought so
After opening arguments I can definitely see a case for self-defense. Right now (halfway through the video) they have to prove to me it WASN'T self-defense.
why didn’t the boys or the mob of ppl who are the aggressors just WALK AWAY ??
They could have tubed down river…gone right past the old dude. The old dude could not dump 6 tubes. They could drag their tubes to the other side of the river …around 1 man
Yes" I'm just a teenage dirtbag baby" but that no reason to act in this violent way should have walked away from Especially if you been unwell with heart surgery!! Guilty I believe.
Did you not listen to any part of this video. He tried to walk away. They surrounded him and blocked him and continued to shove him down in the water. Are you deaf?
@@keemarie1 no I'm not deaf are you blind or just rude
@@isabellacullin4884 I mean yeah I’m probably rude. I agree to that but you said he should’ve just walked away. If you would’ve watched the video, you would see he tried to walk away. Then they threatened him telling him he had 10 seconds and followed behind him.
Even if these kids were doing shots in front of this guy, doesn’t give him the right to kill
what if they were attempting to drowned him?
@@PhonePhone-sf8te haven’t seen that in video yet
@@juniordixie9489 then you didn't watch it. You don't have to let someone kill you before you defend yourself.
2:22:42 he is running to the group and starts grabbing at people. He brought himself to the group and lost his snorkel in the process. He won’t separate himself, keeps looking for his snorkel.
2:24:27 two women are close to him, separating him from the loudmouth guys. He then pushes/hits one of the women (what do you see here?) and then the group defends themselves.
This guy put himself in the group and started the physical fight twice.
Why are you spamming this everywhere? He didnt start stabbing unti he was swarmed by the mob. The end.
Defense attorney didn't even bother to learn how to pronounce his client's name.
Never in my 55 years on this planet have l ever heard of or seen anyone carrying a knife with swim trunks on. I have been making a living with a knife for more than 30 years. This just baffles me why someone would need to carry a while tubing on a river.
It’s really not that hard to figure out. if people fish on that river then he has every right to carry a knife at the river, especially because hes snorkeling. People who dive and snorkel carry knives so if they get caught up in fishing line, they can cut themselves free. Go look it up every smart person who dives or snorkels has some sort of knife tool for emergencies like I stated above. I’m also a woman who carries a pocket knife every day. How do I know this and you don’t?
He knew what he did was wrong, because he threw the knife away after stabbing 5 teenagers , None of teenagers had weapons.
I am 59 and a woman I carry a pocket knife for any out door activities because it gets used often. Swim trunks have pockets, so there is that.
I don't see the defendant being aggressive even when being surrounded by a group of men. I have only seen the video. He couldn't get back to his group because the group was between him and his group. At least two people put hands on him.
Welcome to gen Z and millennial living. You shouldn't have but protecting yourself from this chicks group of Predator friends
What do you think would have happened if he didn’t have the knife?
Go back to the video right before the guy yells, he hit a woman, and you will see the kid in the yellow shorts shoving him back down in to the water twice, and after the 2nd shove he stabs him. Clearly self defense. The man had to be terrified, being surrounded and not knowing if they would try to drown him next.
And the guy in the yellow shorts punched the guy three times…but had a can of beer in his left hand the whole time…and did the punching to defend the 13 kids in the mob…
I agree. How can anyone see this isn’t self defense?
I agree, and don’t hate me .. but my only cause for pause is; if he was as scared and threatened of the crowd (which he had every right to be) why not be the one to call cops and say “I was basically jumped, and harassed, exc” and give his account of his fear then and there, but again you never know how you’ll react to a situation until your in it … but I agree - self defense - tragedy someone lost their life of course, tragedy it all happened in the first place - I just don’t understand if he was so shaken up why he didn’t cal for help as the original “ victim” (if you will) … anyone else?? Pls don’t come for me 🙊
@Prettylittlecrimes Id say because he was on edge. He was surrounded
@@Prettylittlecrimesanother thing.. I think he lost his phone
Smile can be an expression of fear and confusion too
Physcotic
God bless you Nick. . stay strong.
Fox 9 guy Paul Blume is trying really hard to convict Miu. His moronic bias is standing tall.
As an adult in this situation walk away and don't get out a knife and brandish it these kids shouldn't have been stabbed to death!!
They ain’t kids. They approached him and tried to bully him. Teach your kids that the real world ain’t the fucking internet and maybe this won’t happen
@@jamesd7495 Thats right. You mess with the bull, sometimes you get the horns. Parents should have been teaching these little turds to keep their hands to themdamnselves. I'm sure nobody would have been stabbed had they just talked sht and to the man and never touched him. Sht didn't get REAL until they put their hands on that man.
@@jamesd7495Yea they ain’t kids but they didn’t just approach him they didn’t even know him his group wasn’t even near them he separated from his group and ended up by the teens stop lying
@@DangerouslyLegal the dude was snorkeling and the “kids” group came up on him.
@@jamesd7495he had a knife and SHOULD have walked away and STAYED away NOT stabbed people🤷🏻♀️🙄
oMG that video. Thats what you get when you mob a person. sheesh.
Lord of the Flies. “Maybe there is a beast… maybe it's only us.”
My thoughts as well
Great old movie😊
If he wasn't able to walk away the ENTIRE time, then h*ll ya, defend yourself all day, but NOT with a KNIFE! You cannot justify using a knife or gun in a fist fight, especially when it was not self defense which means you could not get away. He started the situation, he chose to keep standing there, he chose to try and dispose of the knife and lie. Absolutely not self defense!! If he was THAT scared, which he WAS NOT, he could've ran back to his group, not run at the teens and tell someone to CALL 911. If they had continued to attack him once he ran away and tried to get away, that would've been self defense. Not the case at all here.
lol it is self defense if the jump you. let me guess, youre a biden voter?
you ate that up. you should of been the attourney for the state
Opinions aside you absolutely can use lethal force in a fist fight under the right conditions such as being heavily outnumbered (13-1), being pushed under water (easily drown, threat to life, nowhere to retreat to (surrounded), another common example would be a petite woman being attacked by a 6ft+ 200lb+ man (this is called disparity of force).
Also, initial aggression can be withdrawn, at which point the next person to instigate becomes the initial aggression. If words are exchanged that you started, then turn your back and start to walk away, then are attacked, you are no longer the initial aggressor.
Put yourself in his shoes surrounded by a bunch of drunk and violent bullies escalating the situation. That is a terrifying situation. If you had a knife you would defend your life if you thought you were in danger. It's called self defense
He did walk away and they followed
Why are teenagers so unaware of the violence that a Man can create? You all just stood there!! He stabbed 5 of you and you all just stood there.. Are you kidding me? RUN!!! You RUN!!!!!
By being blind to the real world, in other words, they seemed clueless.
HOW DO THEY NOT SEE BY HIS FACIAL EXPRESSION THAT SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN???
When that girl was getting in his face, then he pulled out the knife, she was so clueless. That look on his face, smiling, as he sized them up, looking side to side smiling. I know that face. It is purely predatory. Planning, knowing what is coming.
I think they believe that if they shout long and loud enough, they can get their way. It works for them in other incidences, so they haven't developed a flight or fight instinct.
Prosecutor to the second witness. Were you injured at all . Witness says no
Did you lay a hand on the defendant witness says no... The prosecutor is killing his case
The only people stabbed were the ones laying hands on him.
There should be criminal charges for inciting violence for the purpose of creating a Tic-toc video.
In my opinion Choice of words can hurt Someone’s ego . but I didn’t hear no threats. They didn’t threaten to beat them up or hurt him or even threaten his life. They might have hurt his feelings or ego or pride, but that’s just words and you can’t take words personal, And sadly it led to an altercation because he had to prove himself instead of walking away from the situation. Ok he the fact was he was surrounded By a group of people but He walked into that crowd instead ignoring or walking away toward his group and he put himself in a situation where he may have been scared but then he struck first and then brought out a weapon. When everyone was telling him to just leave or go that’s going to be hard to prove that he did not want to stay and fight or the fact he didn’t want to leave. Once again, this is all my opinion not fact form your own opinion.
Agree 💯%
The kid holding that camera should be ashamed of himself. Recording was more important than calling 911. This generation of kids is out of control. He’s part of the reason that kid is dead. Part of the problem.
He says repeatedly "this is for the culture" meaning they wanted to use Nicolae Miu to make a viral video of them beating him up and humiliating him.
He started the whole thing calling the dude a raper and yelling he's looking for little girls over and over he incident a riot a mob against a guy who apparently was looking for his friend's phone that fell into the river that's why he was "by himself" he wasn't he was there with his friends and left the group to look for a phone. Mr big mouth Jamal dreadlocks verbally assaulted him and his friends followed in suit and the guy freaked out and went nuts on them. How is that African American not facing charges for inciting a mob/riot???? He started it all got his friends stabbed and one killed and he started crying like a baby when what he started got out of hand that kid I human trash and should do at least a year or two for starting everything
@@JonDetheven a drunk driver who injures himself or others gets charged with a crime. I'm looking forward to some charges for these so-called victims
Nick should be free. Technically these drunken teens shouldn't of been there
@@deadmanswife3625 I wish that would be the final result, but it won't be. I am now on my 2nd full watch of all testimony and during the first, I rewound many times to proof their claims. These people will lie blatantly in their testimony, be challenged by the defense, then correct their lie. *Ryan did this many times and so did Dante, his brother and others.* The degree of perjury they committed is absurd, but the D.A. won't prosecute them and they all should be. Miu needs to be acquitted of all charges, then sue every single one of them in civil court for their perjury and false accusations.
*If he sues in civil court and wins, it often puts enough pressure on prosecutors to criminally indict the people that lose in cases like this.*
In reviewing the video in its full form now up to 20 times, I created a map of where everyone is but the camera creates a "road block" for most people due to framing and where it's pointed. Nicolae Miu was in fact surrounded immediately from every direction. He repeatedly tries to explain himself to everyone, and Ryan admits that he said he was looking for his snorkel once Miu lost it.
Madison and Riley refuse to let him explain but he tries telling them twice, then puts his arm at his side, frowns and does not know what to do. At this point, AJ Martin, Dante and his brother have all blocked Miu just off camera, and another half dozen people are on their way that the two young women called for. The girls shove him, put their hands on him mocking him, then he has the knife in his hand.
When they claim the punch happened, they all have a different version in testimony, and they all had a different story in their sworn statements to the sheriff's department, both of which are discredited by the video. When he supposedly struck her, *some claim she fell down into the water, others claim she clutched her face, but the video shows a drink in one hand and her cell phone and vape in the other.*
The "prosecutor" should be disbarred for this. He built a case knowing all too well these little POS are lying.
Once I created a map of where everyone was standing, and where they were coming from, Miu literally armed himself in the nick of time. *They were likely to start drowning him while showing off for the camera.*
Every single one of them including the young adults saw an opportunity to make a viral viral video. *We hear Dante shout at them "they're just kids!" and refusing to let him explain himself. They claim he punches the woman at this point, and the video absolutely and conclusively proves that did not happen.
Dozens of seconds later, he has in fact *stabbed* the woman, she exclaims that he punched her believing it was a punch in the stomach because she's so wasted, *and this is when the videographer says "he hit a girl?!" mocking and taunting him, but he had in fact stabbed her when they all surrounded him and he got up for I think the 3rd or 4th time at that point.*
The more I review what factually happened, was said, and where everyone is located, the more I realize Miu didn't do something despicable but necessary as it initially seems. *He did something in the nick of time, and surely saved himself from grave bodily injury if not being killed by the drunken mob of deranged young people.*
Never addressed in the video, one also says "He's looking for little boys!" but he had in fact said he was looking for his snorkel as 2 confirm, and they lied mocking him for fun.
Omg he looks like the judge from Night Court! 😮
😂
Definitely self defense no matter how it started
Stop playing with people 😢
Not guilty if I’m on the jury
He started the physical violence so he can’t claim self defense. He doesn’t get to stab people for calling him names and hurting his feelings. If that were the case, half the country would be dead. He was drunk and lost his temper. It’s his behavior after the fact that is the most disturbing to me. No guilt, no remorse, no concern for others. Sociopath.
Only takes 1 punch to knock someone out cold. Say one of them boys would of knocked him out.. he would of drown in that water. Self defense
yea thats why he should have ignored them and walked away instead of punching a woman and killing a child
U can say the same thing for them. The kids could of walked away..Why was she in his face? She don't own the river and has no right to tell anyone to "go" let alone a grown ass man who was an elder who she should of respected.
Pretty weak argument. It's not reasonable to think none of the few dozen people in the vicinity would have lifted his head out of the water. Fear of getting punched, even getting punched, is no excuse for murder. Too many insecure tough guys who can't tolerate getting their ass beat go straight for a knife or gun.
So you get to stab people just in case they may hit you?
@@zmancan5290yeah? What about the offending party makes you think they're going to make reasonable decisions in the moment? Is it the fact they were drunk, and had 3x the legal limit for an adult for blood alcohol content to drive? Is it the fact they were on drugs? Is it that they surrounded him and started pushing him into the water?
You don't understand our legal system, plain and simple.
Why didn’t the defendant say ‘I’m looking for a cell phone lost in the river’ instead of just acting creepy? That probably would have prevented the boys from getting freaked out and acting the way they did.
😮 no. Just NO. He doesn't owe anyone any explanation of what hes looking for in a public river! No more than those bully hoodlums have to right to tell him to 'leave thier spot '
Some of the kids heard him say something about a phone that's what prosecution says in opening statement. The underage boys were drunk and heard what they wanted
You do know that English is his 5th language.. sometimes it does take time to process a response
Because it's not no one's business on what the insert man is doing. Mind your own damn business and you wouldn't have been stabbed or murder. The old man didn't ask them what they where doing they confronted him.
Dude was acting weird and came at their tubes in their personal space imo he didn’t say anything bout a phone and continued to stay around loud obnoxious kids instead of keeping it moving. Those kids wasn’t trying to fight him not until he got violent with the female. 2 separate groups having issue with this guy and then FIVE people end up stabbed? He didn’t warn them off by saying he had a knife. I don’t think he guilty of first degree murder but imo at least 2nd degree or voluntary manslaughter. Kid wasn’t even a senior yet and lost his life smdh
At this point, I'm just wondering... Is it ok to disembowel someone who pushes you in the water? The guy gets hit what, twice? And tries to kill 5 people with a knife when all they have are bare hands. When is it ok to escalate to a deadly weapon?? I would understand if he was getting the living sh1t beat out of him, but he pulled the knife before he was even touched. And SMILED about it.
He was by himself surrounded by 11 people who kept pushing him into the water, punching, slapping him, cheering, and calling him names. He has every right to defend himself in this situation
how about you dont worry your female head over what a man should or should not do?
Being outnumbered is called disparity of force and can justify lethal force, same way a 4’11” petite woman could be justified in using lethal force against a man that’s 6ft+ 200lb+ and “only using his hands.”
More people die from hands and feet than by rifles in the US every year.
@@Z33ROno. If he showed his knife, the beating would've ended right then. He didn't even show or gave them a warning. This is more than defending for himself
the kids would've stopped attacking him if Miu showed his knife. So what you are saying is not what's happening here. Miu could've defended himself by showing the weapon alone. He didn't have to use it
Omg he gutted that guy on purpose. What a scumbag
So he only stabbed those who actually touched him …
drunk and 17 whoever let that happen should be the one charged with murder.
I’m early on into watching but group of 17 people with many young drunk teen males harrasing and tries to drown the dude ….. waiting to see if he did actually hit the women first and boys then responded. Hard to tell yet
I did not see him hit her. These teens are scary. We need to watch this trial closely friends . This could happen to any of us. It’s getting worse everyday.
@@karend.SKYWARN no but, multiple people yelled on the video about him hitting the girl right when it happened. Also, his defense atty confirmed he hit her, never denied it; he only distinguished that it was an open hand slap (still a “hit”) & not a punch. Then, he tried diminishing the open hand slap the defendant gave the girl but, embellished the open hand slap the defendant received. Ironic that nearly every person that sides with the defendant is an older person, often griping about today’s youth or disrespectful, scary teens. Hope the jury isn’t full of easily triggered boomers lol. Fwiw I’m closer to the defendant’s age.
Its like Broken Telephone one person starts shet the rest stumble words. @@abd5441
Please, don't act as if 17 year old drinking and smoking a little weed is scandalous.
Who TF does that woman Madeline thinks she is? Thats not her river, she has no right getting in his face & telling him where to go. He can go wherever he likes. Now Nikolai will die in jail, he is paying dearly & is being held responsible for his actions on that fateful day. But nothing is said about the crimes that were done to him. On the video you can clearly see him getting pushed & falling into the water, twice. Multiple people push him, hit him on the head, push him down again yet no one is charged. That is not fair.
Respect your elders
He hurt a woman in the face in front of group of people. What did he expect? Of course the defended her and had no idea what he would do next.
So, they didn't get physical to him until after he punched her.
I'm so done with him claiming self defense. He also lied and said they took his snorkel. No. He dropped it.
He barely said a word. That was odd, VERY odd. That surely made the groups uncomfortable as he approached and then was near them and refused to leave.
Not once did he ask about a phone, right??? Not once did he greet them and say, "Hey, my friend dropped his phone. I came over to look for it. ...." He was acting weird the whole time.
A normal person would say the above or something similar as he approached or by the time he got closer to them. He said almost nothing, yet speaks several languages. It's weird! Why didn't he walk away in the beginning??? The phone was replaceable. Why did he pull out a knife instead of walk away?
I don't see him slapping or punching her first
There is no evidence he punched anyone. He did not need to discuss with them what he was doing on a river that is open to the public. It's not weird he didn't speak because English is not his first language. Amazing how you fail to mention they ganged up on him. I'm not excusing his actions. You seem like the type to sympathize with criminals, so these teenagers are right up your ally.
@goll58 So, a group of kids was minding their own business in their tubes and a stranger runs up to them, grabs their tubes, touches their bodies and does say anything as approaching and you think that's normal?
Normal people don't run up to strangers, touch and move their belongings, then touch their bodies.
If I saw you on a sidewalk and ran up to you, touched your purse or bags and touched your body, what would you do? They reacted.
They definitely reacted badly. They aren't 100% innocent.
But, he left his group and approached a group of strangers without saying anything like, "Hey guys, I'm looking for a phone."
He was acting weird. They reacted to a weirdo. They had no idea why he wouldn't leave. He was the one that should have gone back to his group.
I'm looking at this in a non-biased way. They all could have behaved differently. But, he originally approached and touched the guys in the tubes.
@@goll58He's been in US for decades, is an engineer and can speak English fine. He went to high school in the US. Language is not the issue here at all.
@menarussell
Lmao that is NOT what happens in the video AT ALL.
He doesnt run up to them and wildely starts touching anyone. He seems pretty deamn calm, while he is being shouted at from a far, insulted and then pushed around.
everything the aggressive males claim is somehow not on the video NIC NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LOOKING FOR LIL GIRLS NO GIRL GETS PUNCHED ,AND NO CRY FOR HELP THE MALE CLAIMS SOMEONE SAYS .. they all claim they were the scared ones yet they are laughing taunting name calling the person they claim to be scared of yet the didn’t walk away when Nic did walk away towards the females .. pathetic that each one of the males attempt to be scared victims & an at an attempt to change their stories to fit their narrative except the video shows the facts & the 3 key things that they claim somehow isn’t heard or shown on the video ,, because they are lying period
I think a lot of people should be prosecuted. Nic is not guilty.
Mui’s party was up river so he couldn’t have lost a phone near them, he was trying to get closer to the young girls. He was called out and he didn’t like that. He was walking away but turned back and went at them. You don’t fear for your life and turn back and try to intimidate.
collude much?
Oh, sweetie. If you actually watched this. Youd know those girls werent even near the initial area where it went down. The girls walked over. Try again.
I wonder what percentage of tragedies start with ALCOHOL OR DRUGS?? Bunch of babies… 17 year olds… drinking and getting high on the river…. What could go wrong??
47% of homicides involve alcohol
Easily triggered boomers should behave like adults. (I know he’s not a boomer but, bet many of his defenders are lol. Fwiw I’m close to his age.) He walked away early on, then returned because he was angry & humiliated by their taunts, pushed on one teen’s intertube. You can’t claim self defense if you create the situation or had opportunities to remove yourself from the threatening situation. If you stabbed anyone in self defense would you ditch the knife & lie about everything or call 911 immediately & tell everyone in your group? His attempts to conceal what he did show consciousness of guilt.
@@abd5441 I don’t disagree but that doesn’t change my post. If everyone had been sober perhaps Isaac would be alive and none of this would have happened
They shouldn't of let Sandra into the court room. They have sequestered her to avoid her testimony changing. They allowed it and SURPRISE!! Guess whose testimony changed..
If her testimony changes, that allows the prosecution to impeach her. The judge is making the proper calls.
Why does the defense attorney Eric Nelson look just like the defendant 😮😅
Yeah the only thing they have in their hand was a beer and cell phone. They were so confident that they were gonna bully this guy they were carrying a beeer around they were not afraid they had them
That was not a little pocket knife.
how long was the knife professor?
It’s 3 inches totally standard. Op must be from Europe where everyone runs around with kitchen cutlery because knives are banned
Seems like a normal sized pocket knife from the perspective in the video.
@StinkyBlack1 where is Romania, because that's where he is from
They fucked around and found out. It's a shame he was convinced
He stuck because he wanted to find his gear and hoped the gang would leave?