Apple River stabbing trial: Prosecution questions Nicolae Miu [FULL]
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- Nicolae Miu was cross examined by the prosecution in the Apple River stabbing trial on April 9.
The state pointed out Miu's false statements in his interrogation video compared to what he testified to on Tuesday.
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Nothing would have happened if people would just mind their own business!!
Exactly
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Miu is a guilty murderer.
I think Miu's guilty, but I do believe that the 2nd group (especially that Maddie chick) really, really, REALLY escalated all of this. Which is funny (dark funny, morbid irony), as they claimed "oh, we have experience in bars de-escalating things, we can help"
since we all know, that’s not human nature so kind of ridiculous to say.
Everyone talking about him lying, but so far every single person who has been called to the stand that was involved in the incident has lied.
Including him
@@jasminemoore4252 well yeah, I said every person called to the stand...
Some people don’t know how to read…
@@lacyrussell6688 lmao right.
Yeah, but Mr.Miu lied about his knife. In the the interrogation video he said he took the knife from one of the kids. Then he ditched his knife after the stabbings & tried to play it off like it was one of the kid’s knives. I don’t think innocent people ditch their weapon like this & lie about it.
That prosecuting attorney's questions with "right? right? right?" at the end of every sentence pisses me off. Trying to coerce him into admitting to false allegations. "Let's just twist the truth and try having this man agree to our bullshit perspective."
@@sophiesnuffy2563 Get a life
Regardless of where you stand on this trial one thing is for sure. This is a clear lesson in why everyone needs to mind their own damn business.
Ain’t this the dam truth..!!!!!!!!!
And not to be rude to others
Agreed, except to intervene in a crime that is taking place.
The defendant approached the teens in the river. He grabbed their tube, and he was clearly the aggressor in all of it. It was not self defense, he's a murderer.
Now how about when an older adult male physically assaults a smaller female teenager? Your daughter? Your neighbor? "Only thing for evil to persist is for good people to do nothing." Do you, but maybe not complain.
Never talk to anyone until your lawyer is present. Everything is designed to entrap you. The best defense attorney I know has a simple rule - never ever talk to the police without your lawyer present - ever
Is it Bruce rivers lol
Well a lot of these folks don’t watch UA-cam let alone read the comment section. They are clueless 😜.
I am a LEO and what you stated is the absolute fact. Just say “lawyer.” Keep repeating it if necessary. However, a lot of people feel the need to try and explain too many details and information.
@@MaisyMimiyes that is my lawyer. Retainer is high but worth every penny!
This is absolutely NOT ‘entrapment.’ Not even close to what entrapment means.
Absolutely nobody had to die that day
Agreed. If the kids would have just shut up and listened amd helped instead of whooping around like drunken monkeys and attacking the guy, then nobody would have been hurt. Parents need to raise their children better and teach common decency again.
Fafo
@@houhou71yep! 100 percent correct!
@@houhou71or maybe if he would have just waited a few minutes for them to float passed and clear the area, not invaded their personal space, accused them of stealing his phone, assaulted a girl, oh and probably if he wouldn’t have brought that knife to confront them dam rowdy kids.. and him being drunk probably didn’t help his decision making, I guess he’s not a responsible adult, and he’s obviously not a reasonable person but at least he doesn’t have anger issues, he stabs multiple kids that were minding their own business until he barged in and planted himself in a perfect scenario to unleash all that built up suppressed anger while he’s drunk and found a group of kids having to much fun minding their own business.. yep but he’s the victim.. you people are sick. And you just heard all the same evidence and testimony that I did.. what is wrong with your comprehension skills, probably just your biases but really?
@@MickeyKimseyfor real
What is really disturbing to me is, when his friend approached, kids were bleeding in the water yet 911 was not called by the friend when he returned to his group. What kind of people are these?
EXACTLY! Miu also has no problem recognizing his friend in the water, when he supposedly "couldn't see anything"
It also seems he doesn't remember all the bad life threatening decisions he made towards others but yet he remembers every detail in what they did to him. Even if it was a lie. He still remembers only how he was brutally attacked, with no bruising or river rock marks on his body. It's weird how his memory works. He didn't even remember telling his group to leave, but he remembered being afraid of the guy in the forest holding a bat.
@@motogem1408 Exactly
I didn't like how this asshole acted after and kept lying.
@@motogem1408he picked and chose what to remember if it fit his defense narrative
The way the prosecuter says, "right?" after every single question is annoying to listen to.
It is called "leading", and should not happen.
It's because he wouldn't immediately answer the question. Because he's guilty as sin.
Now it's all I hear lmao
@@DarkFox2232
That’s what I was hearing
@@DarkFox2232 Its cross-examination, leading is allowed during cross
Everybody had just 2 beers in this trial....
Actually they measured alcohol levels. The least ‘drunk’ kid (the one who died) was already leveling 0.219 and that’s quite a lot
@@hoidoei941he's making a joke that they were lying
The older brother admitted to 4 or so.
LoL just like when people get pulled over.. they always just had two beers. Gimme a break
@@matthewfoor4487 Law enforcement, said Mr. Miu had no appearance or scent of alcohol.
I have followed quite a few trials like this in the past couple of years. What I have learned: The state is not your friend.
No kidding! You are their suspect they are there to specifically put you in jail.
Yay! We’re learning precedent!
Why should the prosecution be your friend that's the dumbest statement I've heard in awhile they're trying to convince a jury of what you did
STOP defending dumb teenagers. They harmed him FIRST.
@@sistermaryfrances4480 I'm guessing you support every war they push at you, right?
Goggles in his accent probably sounded like "girls" to the drunk and high boys.
That’s a good point it’s possible !
He could have said anything and those bullies would have picked on him anyway. There's no excuse for that menacing gang to attack him.
@@mgmarrow agreed...I think the judge messed it up by gatekeeping the video and not freely giving it to the jury. Hoping for a mistrial on those grounds. We can defend ourselves from any and all physical threats.
@@mgmarrow What videos are you guys watching? Because from what I've seen it's clearly Miu who starts the altercation and is the first to get physical.
@@mgmarrow They were looking for a fight, and they got one. And lost.
Feel sorry for this guy. This is such an unfortunate situation.
Who is Maddie, the river police? She has zero authority to make someone leave and she certainly has no right to physically push or touch him, she wasn't even involved with the original interaction. Who would not be irritated or angry if someone is yelling at them to leave regardless of wether it's a female or male.
Agreed 💯
She’s a liar also. That’s why she hides at home
So because someone is irritated or angry that means they can pull out a knife and start stabbing people?
@@user-ut3ft4qn5f Wasn't she the one that her dad sent down with her brother to deescalate because he thought she had good deescalation skills, or was that the other woman?
Glad you said it - this was the start of the assaults. Watch the video and see how far she had to walk to come over and then got in Miu's face. This arrogant aggressiveness turned the situation into a powder keg waiting to explode. Anytime you see a mob gathering, there's always one instigator who'll try to escalate.
This is a perfect example of why you never talk to police. Whether you're guilty or not.
He forgot that he didn’t remember
Guy looks like Neagan of the walking dead.
that's bad advise because it can add charges of obstruction which is illegal. should just obey cops and answer easy questions.
@@henlohenlo689 that is not true. You can request an attorney in a situation like this. You do have a right against self incrimination, you do have a right to remain silent. You find yourself in this situation, ask for an attorney. In fact, once you request an attorney, it’s a violation of your rights for them to continue to ask questions.
they led him to believe he could have one but not til Monday. Shocking@@Peyton-bv1nn
That confession in the car where he says he thought a fight happened but wasn’t involved… mind blowing. 🤯
Veterans call this " Tunnel Vision" .... Mind Processing things under - pressure.
@@ImaJWalker this isn’t tunnel vision. This is outright LYING. 🤦🏻♀️
Yeah dude thought he'd get away with stabbing a bunch of people on camera. Total psycho.
Yet thats not what happened ffs@@batmanwins5701
He knows he's left many living witnesses with his by now signature stab wounds on thier young bodies that are on their way to the hospital to be surgically repaired and will never be able to forget his face .😮This slew of lies removes all credibility . His own group indeed knew he was over with the teens as well. They warned him not to go over there a couple of times. His wife obviously knows he doesn't handle the booze and can become aggressive she wanted him to stay away and knew he'd be of no assistance, finding anything but trouble. The fact that he drank lots was the only truth he told. "I think we all were drinking alot"
Prosecutors aren't about finding the truth, they're about manipulating facts to win their case.
To be fair thats what Defense attorneys like to do too
Only old angry people agree with you 😂
@@beckyg.9087 and people with common sense.
@@banjax80Or those who have seen both sides of the system.
And nobody agrees with you lmao@@beckyg.9087
no one has to remember they just have to watch the video
He was in disbelief that's what that smile was about
There's two sides to the story.. and his does fairly make sense..
but I think he was too intoxicated and annoyed that the whole video plays out like he knew exactly what he was doing.
exactly, instead of listening to contradictory statements you can watch what actually happened.
Yes and in the video you can see some spoiled intoxicated kids bullying an old guy that was the same … we need to know how to raise our kids, now they are crying cause they were stabbed , but at the time they were laughing and bullying and hitting a person … so sorry not sorry .. as a mom I would be so mad but honestly they were so wrong and there’s consequences
@@AnaGarcia-cg4yoI agree, they instigated the whole situation and made it worse. If they would have helped the man or asked instead of bullying. Then none of that would have happened.
Why isn’t the cameraman showing the video? So annoying!
@@JackFromWyomingNo. It's because it's too gruesome
@@kathleenclark815Speak for yourself
It’s on UA-cam
Not as annoying as the prosecution whispering 😂
The trial is being broadcast for public interest, accuracy and education. All evidence must be shown or all those criteria are defeated.
Show all the evidence!!!
I’m so fallible. I watched the defense earlier and said he was being unjustifiably convicted. Now I watch this, and my opinion has changed. Don’t believe anything before you have the full story. Lesson learned for me.
I completely agree! I was thinking "those teen boys are the aggressors". Now that I've heard almost all the testimonials, I'd say he GUILTY!
Respect due to you Paul. Some people will never see or know.
Exactly
Humility has to be one of the best human traits - it's so refreshing to see such a self-aware person out here. Could not agree with you more Paul, this is a good reminder how fickle our perspectives can be
I watched the whole trial. It is very sad day for justice since a man who defended himself against a drunken mob is going to prison for the rest of his life. He should be home with his family.
All of this over a phone that wasn’t even his…..im sure he’s regretting not walking away 🤦🏻♂️
All of this was over a video that Jahwan wanted to go viral. He fed the DRUNK AND HIGH mob FOR THE CULTURE.
@@angiejorah yeah but he’s not the one sitting behind bars
@@chikensaregood9500 Not literally, no.
@@angiejorahthe older man should have walked away from that culture not jump into the middle of it with a knife. As an older man, that’s what I would do, not go to prison for the rest of my short life. But hey, you do you.
@@Ivan.A.Trulyuski If only Madison and the other screaming woman who put their hands on him wouldn't have blocked his path back to his group. He tried walking away. The mob was out to get him no matter what. Mui had no choice and had to defend himself. Enjoy seeing an innocent man go to prison for the rest of his life for self-defense against 12 drunk and high screaming and laughing people. I wonder how long and how many of them would have kept punching him while he was down had he not defended himself. 2 women and 4 or 5 of the men put their hands on him before he stabbed anyone. Fact.
This guy's attorney should never have let him testify. Holy crap that was a train wreck for the defense.
It was his decision.
He's claiming self defense which is an affirmative defense, he pretty much needs to testify to explain his state of mind and his side of the situation, no?
@@LoudestHoward Yeah, I get that; and considering that all the lying and strategic memory lapses make him look guilty a.f. from the outset he didn't really have any good options, but man was that a $h!t show.
Yes after seeing the interrogation I knew he would not come across well on the stand I was shocked to see he testified.
Brain damage from alcohol and pharmaceutical drugs. 💉💊🙃😶🫥😑😥
The problem with the prosecution charging him with first degree murder is that they are trying to argue and twist things now that Miu intentionally brought his knife over with the intent of stabbing people. It's absolutely stupid and not believable based on the video evidence and everything else. They needed to charge him with something lesser. The prosecution put themselves in an extremely difficult position to argue.
If you watch the video, and the prosecution pointed this out, Miu KNEW he had the knife on him and kept feeling for it on his side as he's running up on the teenagers in the first place.
WHY IS he running up the teenagers and WHY is he grabbing their legs then the tube forcing them off the tube?
WHY wouldn't he leave and instead of leaving when everyone was telling him to leave? It was their area to begin with. Instead, he pulled out a knife then gets a cocky look and half smile on his face.
NONE of the teens made threats against him or said attack him.
HE initiated the contact and multiple witnesses said he punched Madison. He said he only pushed her. Either way, he began the aggressive physical contact.
Yet he's completely innocent?
You obviously have not listened to when they went over the video,they should have not recorded it they would e been a lot more Innocent
@@alanboody7004 he does explain that several times and other people in the comments explained it before even hearing this. He stumbled over to the teenagers because he thought they had the phone he was looking for. Then, he stayed nearby because he was looking for his goggles.
@@alanboody7004bs…that chick turned this altercation into a physical one 🤡
All I know is Miu and Jason Voorhees sharpen thier knives together. That is a sharp pocket knife.
Maddie’s behavior was despicable. I hope she realizes that she caused that entire situation.
Who is Maddie?!? I need to look at more videos
this is a case where zero testimony is necessary. all the evidence needed is on video.
He's not always truthful. This doesn't help his case.
severe case of amnesia... he doesn't remember.
@@sheiladikshit5110y’all make sure make a lot of excuses for your kind about anything huh 😂
@@unyieldingrage1389 they don't think it be like it is, but it do.
@@sheiladikshit5110😂 that's ridiculous.
@@unyieldingrage1389our… kind? You mean humans?
He has aged a lot in 2 years,stress is killing him.
I agree
He lost a lot of weight from being in jail
He has lost a lot of weight because he isn't coming home and drinking multiple beers every night like his wife stated he did. He looks healthier here than he did then
And he lost a lot of weight
He looks better imo. Thin and fit as opposed to fat.
The worst defendant / witness I’ve ever heard or seen in my life!
I feel for everyone in this situation. As someone who has been jumped by three men at work, unprovoked (I work in an industry that leaves the customer on high alert), I can assure you that it is beyond terrifying. You are not aware of what your assailants are capable of, when they will stop assaulting you, or how the situation will end. I did not have a weapon on me and anytime I stood back up to get help, I was then pushed down again and punched and kicked, so I was in no position to defend myself - but with fear, adrenaline and pain coursing through your body, I can absolutely attest to how disoriented you get and how all train of typical thinking flees your mind. I was unable to think of how to protect myself properly, such as covering my head or vital organs, to give credit to the fact that you don't quite have all your faculties. Add 10 other people who are screaming and laughing at you, plus alcohol, and you get this case. He will have to pay for his actions that day, especially since multiple people became intentional targets, but everyone involved in pushing this man down and harming him should be held accountable for their assaults and aiding the situation to occur in the first place.
Exactly. The kids should also be penalized for harassing the man and putting themselves in danger.
exactly has I see it, the 2 sides here were horrible, the group could not hold a better posture they responded like animals, and with this east type of people "nicolae" they are there for the kill when things are personal, that is more or less the culture take justice by their hands witch is criminal thinking and behavior and can be shown here, just the mindset of going to face a group like to give them a lesson with a hiden knife u can see the mindset...luckly I live in Europe and this concept of an individual carrying knives or guns is not present, but hey in Europe there are a lot of criminal to, so the gun does not make u a criminal, but it surelly helps to then finalize the mindset...and the group they are already almost adults at that time education has already had to be ingreaned , because when its not groups act like hienas...pure animal kindom madness witch was what was displayed here, its a pity this like Einstein one said, when u have a military kind of mind and atack is all u see, surely you have been given a brain by mistake...
Except it was open space. He could've left the where the boys were. He walked up to them. Sad situation all around.
I have been jumped before 2 times now. SemperFi America
That fact makes him the aggressor. These kids were right this old man is mental and dangerous and was a threat. Once he stabbed that young lady anybody had the right to restrain him. He left without a single mark. The law is clear and it corresponds to moral compass. You should never stab four human beings for yelling at you in a public park.
Every single person has lied in this case
Exactly
😂😂😂😂
They were drunk and they don't remember.
the camera never lies
It’s been 2 years and they’d all been drinking
Wow he should not have testified!! I was on his side before but now I don’t know. He has no regret or sympathy of the young boy dying… wow
Thank you for that observation! He doesn't seem remorseful at all!
You dont know if he has any regret.. when your getting charged with murder all you have time for is fighting for your life on trial. It takes everything out of you.. he may have regret and guilt he may just not be showing it bc it will make him look even more guilty and he is putting all his energy in this trial.. He won't ever get to fully process it until trial is over imo.
@@jessie-111 right, as you don't know if he's a cold psychopath, who feels nothing either, right? It's all speculation.
@@jessie-111right I’m sure Ted bundy had remorse as well
Why would you have regret or sympathy?
The Prosecutor goes on and on and on. Redundant questions!
HE DID NOT HAVE TO KILL THAT YOUNG MAN NO MATTER WHAT HE DID BUT HE CHOSE TO BE JUDGE JURY AND EXECUTIONER .TIME TO GO TO JAIL
How convenient he doesn’t remember any of the lies he told but anything that helps his case he can recall. That’s not suspect at all. Lies are hard to keep track of but the truth is always easy to remember.
That's exactly what every other witness did - but I guess that proves their innocence to you.
His lies were exposed multiple times in this video
Hahaha his memory is hilarious and his attorney led him into every single answer
Well the other witnesses didn’t stab multiple people, killing one, gutting another, and then pretending like they didn’t know what happened.
Ha 😂 wow did you see prosecutions witnesses 😂😂😂😂
How did he think he could throw a jacket on and 15+ people wouldn’t notice that it was him !
mind blowing.
Who stabs multiple people then floats off finishing up the day as if nothing has hpppened!?
Somebody that just dodged a bullet being attacked by an enraged mob and doesn't feel guilty about defending himself.
Chuckie
@@truehighs7845well said, thank you for having common sense
He stabbed that girl before ever getting attacked @@truehighs7845
Most tube river floats are like that, you are stuck on the river until you get to the end point where you either catch a shuttle back to your car, or you had a shuttle that drops you off further up the river and you float back to where your car is. It’s a day float… most of the river goes thru the woods and most is not accessible to just “walk out”. His wife stated in her testimony they were just quiet finishing the float.. but I doubt they knew at that time that a kid died or he did that much physical damage.
The physical altercation… it was seconds, not minutes. It’s really nice to sit, removed from all emotion, and break everything down frame by frame.. but that’s not how the brain works. He is, in my opinion, clearly traumatized. This whole thing is awful.
Definitely.
He isn’t traumatized. His demeanor is exactly the same as it was when he attacked those kids. He’s not crying. He’s not sad. He’s not even a little upset. He is just robotic and cold.
@@coleengogerty3852 You're not a psychiatrist to say whether or not someone is upset. He could be traumatized and hate that the incident happened, yet not sit there a bawl like a baby. Just because that's what most women would do doesn't mean he is uncaring.
the adult could walk away and let it go. but this asshole just couldn't
Not half as traumatized as though those stabbed I bet
He ditched the knife, floated away, lied through his teeth when questioned by the officer. He "heard there was a stabbing, and he fit the description". Wowww... nobody was completely right in this, but you cant claim all of that was self defense and then ditch knife, act like you weren't part of it. Nobody should have lost their life out of this stupid incident. Unbelievable.
Something a lot, if not most adults would also do in that situation. All done in panicked mindset. But all the videos shown these douchebags surrounding him while laughing. Ever watched any true crime? Teen mobs can easily kill you. This guy had every reason to fear aggressive drunks.
Harrassment buddy do you know the human body do you study it???? 😮I'm here to tell you fight or flight is real and this is a PERFECT EXAMPLE 😢😢😢
@@devinnewell5842funny how you bring up studying the human body, and fight or flight like you've got a point.
1. Fight or flight is in the area of psychology, not biology. And yes I did study it.
2. It's fight OR flight (among many others but I'm not getting into that). Not "fight, then realize you fucked up and ditch the murder weapon while trying to slip past police."
@@americandeadhead5025then walk away duh
@@51apsmustang- So the mind isn’t part of the human body that has a biological make up? The mind doesn’t cause the heart to beat faster or blood pressure to rise? Fear comes from the mind doesn’t it? How can fear cause the rising of adrenaline?
We're taught as a child, words are just words. You walk away, you don't stab several people, killing one,& try to flee. Not saying a word. Not to mention wash your hand, & the knife, then throw it away. He hurt his own case.😢
Why does it have 2 have the awful noise when the court is muted!!?? ... why not just silence!!??
I have met and worked with a lot of engineers and only met one with a "convenient" bad memory, regardless of their age. Mui is a mechanical engineer. He had time to walk away and not cut up anyone.
I'm surrounded my engineers, and have been for 30 years. You must live in the twilight zone. An engineer's memory is like any other person's memory, some good some bad.
Nevertheless, I know from experience that when in a high stress environment, and the adrenaline is surging, a person's memory of detail will not be the same as sitting taking notes in lecture, with a text book with the purpose of memorizing detail.
Alcohol
He buried himself on the stand!!!!!!!
Definitely!
Yeah dudes story was so full of holes you would think it was one of those kids he jabbed.
If only he would've walked away, not lied, not attempting to fleed the scene. & more importantly showed any remorse afterwards 😮
He is an alpha male. He couldn’t handle his ego being bruised. He didn’t like how they told him to go away. He wanted to make them pay, but in the end, he is the loser because now he has to live in a cage till he dies.
@@Charmander009 He may have fancied himself an Alpha because of his hunting and gun ownership and firearms advocacy as illustrated in his now removed social media page, but he is not. He simply was too proud to go back empty handed without snorkel and phone to his group and wife because he would have had to endure the shame of being backed down by rowdy, disrespectful, teenagers. So, he risked everything for a different outcome, and look where it ended up. What a foolish Delta of a man.
Victim blaming...is disgusting and he lied from beginning
You are also victim blaming. And the others also lied from the beginning.
The teens were not victims. They were taunting, malicious, instigating, unhinged lunatics who pushed an older man into the water and punched his face and then tried to hold him down in the water. The kids were instigating the WHOLE time
What a blunder by the defense to put this man on the witness stand
In all honesty, they probably didn't have a choice in his arrogance, he probably insisted against there council
Surprisingly, it worked for Kyle Rittenhouse.
@@palace927 That was a true case of self defense, and he didn't try to hide from the facts of what happened, in fact, he immediately tried to turn himself in.
@@palace927 he was being shot at by career criminals, not mocked by teenagers
They had to after the interrogation video was made available. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse off he’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.
His memory is incredibly selective. Goes away when it's inconvenient, comes back when it IS convenient, and FILLED with false memories aka LIES.
Also, he NEVER mentioned being strangled because his LAWYERS came up with that lie. The 3-part picture of the victim "strangling" him, was literally at the time he was murdering the kid.
At the time the "kid" put his hands on his throat he had the right to defend himself.
@angiejorah - Didn't you wonder why the 17 year old's body & Miu's hands were blocked off in that 3-part picture that SUPPOSEDLY proved he was being strangled by the 17-year old??? It was because Miu was stabbing him to death AT THAT MOMENT!!! You can tell because you see that Riley in the background has already been stabbed. That's why her mouth is open like she's screaming and she's looking down at her side. What would YOU do?? Just stand there? Miu had ALREADY punched Maddie, stabbed Riley, and one other person. This poor kid just tried to push this psycho away and got killed for his actions. In fact, NO ONE had assaulted Miu in ANY way before he started attacking everyone!
Miu also took his knife out LONG before he began the attack, just hoping someone would provide a justification for him to start stabbing. When they didn't, he punched Maddie, and started stabbing everyone. He did not know there would be video. You have to watch the whole video. In addition, at least 3 out the 5 or 6 people he attacked, didn't touch him aggressively in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER (before or after his attack), including the first 2 people he attacked. So NOTHING was self-defense for Miu. But for anyone who did punch or push Miu, that was obviously self-defense because he was stabbing everyone. And since Miu was the first person to physically attack anyone, it's actually the victims that are defending themselves, as much as they can by pushing him away or punching him.
His defense team did a great job muddying the waters by cherry picking moments in the video where Miu was either "assaulted" or the "victim" an apparent assault. They didn't SAY the instances were BEFORE Miu started attacking everyone, they just let you assume it. The problem was, people only started pushing / punching Miu when Miu began stabbing everybody. Miu came over to them, refused to leave, initiated the violence, then took it up 100 knots. Then he casually left like he could have at any other time.
@@wvrjl If you watch the video at .25 you don't see Rylee stabbed until after Mui got up from being pushed into the water, slapped, and punched. Rylee and Madison had their hands all over Mui. He didn't punch Madison. Madison lied and said she had pics of her face. The police are able to recover deleted pictures. The picture never happened. The drunk and high mob say that to justify attacking him in the 1st place. All of the people who got stabbed punched, slapped, had their hands on him, prevented him from leaving and tried to push him under the water. 100% Self-Defense against a drunk and high mob.
After watching, and rewatching most of the videos in this case, I've learned that pretty much everyone involved are all incredible liars.
Even with video evidence they continue to spread manure. Incredible.
Oh wow, he should never have taken the stand. What a mistake.
Why do people keep saying this lol, it shows the jury he's not a redneck killer like zoomers portray him to be, he's a feeble ethnic migrant of an old man who was defending himself
Not really, got a murder put in jail for the rest of his life. I'm pretty sure he didn't have much of a choice in the matter
It's one side...listen to the defense examination.
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 you always have a choice to not testify against yourself lol
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 its a right
As I'm around 40 minutes into watching this video i think it was a bad decision to let him take the stand. Any good lawyer would've told him not to take the stand, unless he insisted on taking the stand.
He only says I don't remember and he still got exposed for lying
Defendant's should never take the stand. Your attorney will tell u that. Some just insist on telling their story.
As potential future jurors, our job is to look beyond BS, including bad performances by defendants whose lives are at stake, and understand the facts of the case, and make a solid decision. For instance, the prosecutor focused on his “anger scale” because the ONLY hope they have to winning is that he was “angry” and started stabbing people. For us, we know that given the mob he was surrounded by, he needed to defend himself after they repeatedly attacked him, especially after calling him names, and that being angry doesn’t wave his right to self defense. What, should he be happy while defending himself? Should be scared? Yes, he should be scared, but you can be angry and scared at the same time.
@@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211you can be angry and scared at the same time, or do you mean can’t?
I Agree. His attorney should not have allowed him to testify. They are masters of taking a testimony, twisting a story/scenario and saying, right? Right?
.....he was an adult, that should have walked away immediately instead of creating a terrible outcome. Resulting in the death of a 17 year old boy and injuring several other kids.
Asking an adult to act like an adult when dealing with kids seems to be too much to ask for some people.
17 isn't a kid. Those LARGE young men were being quite intimidating and surrounding him. The lesson to learn is don't be quick to put your hand on people and don't act like a pack of jackals and bully someone.
Not to mentioned the camera guy instigating this whole thing by saying he was looking for little girls
@@ronarprefect7709 Even the idea that they "surrounded him" is not true. Gathering around is not the same as surrounding someone. And if he felt surrounded, why didn't he just walk away? If you are "surrounded", it means you cannot get away. The very reason theybwere gathering around is because they were telling him to go away and leave them alone. You see multiple hands pointing him away in the video. What is that man doing there? When does he tell them what he was doing? So of course people would gather around to see what is going on.
@@ronarprefect7709 If your child was in a conflict with someone who pushed passed them and jumped in their place in the queue, and they turned around and gutted your child like a fish because your child gad the audacity to push them back, would give your child the speech of "learn to not put your hands on people"? I wouldn't. I would be too busy condemning the person that gutted your child.
Plus, in the video, the girl barely touched the killer and it looks like more of a block than a push. Blocking him from moving further foward. Remember, the girl and several others are seen pointing him away. He is refusing to leave them alone. And even before that, the sick killer had alreadly pulled out his knife opened it and had it in his hand. He was waiting for the pretext to use it. That is when he instigated real physical contact by pushing her.
At that point, she had no idea that the man standing in front of her has an open knife in his hand. To me, that tells me that she was justified in putting her hand on the killer in an effort to get him to leave their space . She must have sensed that he was a madman. Even the first time he walks up to her she takes a step back. No one knows what this madman wants and she was obviously concerned for her safety.
Crazy to put this guy on the stand. He buried himself, and any chance he had.
Nah, I think he's not guilty of redrum. He did lie to police and was horrible on the stand. The video says it all tho.
Eh he’s white, probably get community service
He looks annoyed and overwhelmed testifying more than he does during the video IMO
This 💯
In the video, he is drunk as a skunk. He told the cops that he had "been drinking all day".
4:03 he literally stoped them then got infront of their tubes and blocked them.
He said he was annoyed and overwhelmed so he pulled a blade. Never said he was afraid.
He said he was afraid the whole time
A Russian never says I'm afraid, 99% of men will never admit to another man that he is afraid. They put him in a box. Justice was not served. I hope thos brats learnt a lesson for life. 🐝
Nowadays kids think that they can do anything and nobody can touch them or even talk to them. If you do have any interaction with a kid they will call you a predator. The days of respecting your elders is over. Its best to not talk to anybody.
Correct, but this guy decided to flob his fat gut over them while they were minding their own business chillin in the river, and acted like a stereotypical maniac and stabbed anyone he could get without warning
@000TQ000 no the teens acted like drunk idiots and got their foolish selves hurt and killed maybe now they'll learn to respect people and not scream and hit and push did you hear what they were saying to him? Not for nothing if that were my friends back in the day the guy woulda got knocked out before he could grab the knife. These kids today are weak zero street skills.
@@000TQ000 Sounds like you could be one of those people that bullies others when in a large group? Stating he 'decided to flob his fat gut' before claiming someone else is acting stereotypical is hypocrisy 101. Well done!! 🙄
@@SteTrax His hairy fat gut might I add!
He stabbed 5 people without weapons after he initiated physical contact with them. So how is it the kids fault for acting like kids? I imagine if it was your teenager stabbed, you'd have a different opinion. Were the kids being rude? Yes. Does that warrant punching a female and then stabbing a bunch of teenagers, and leaving the scene? Not in my opinion. He's full of crud with his anger level 1 bs
Man this dude can’t stop lying. It’s incredible. His defense attorney made a huge mistake in letting him take the stand.
@@DJ-769 yes. You’re very correct. This entire situation is just full of BS. And extremely sad. More so than anything already discussed here.
It’s hard to accurately remember 2 years later
what lie?
Get the hell out of here.
Man was afraid for his life
"I can't remember anything that would make me look guilty."
You’d do the same, keep lying like you’d be the perfect Boy Scout on stand
@@unyieldingrage1389how well did that work for him genius?
@@commanderjor4043how great did bullying an older man work for Isaac 😮💨
@@Killerbnizz"bullying an old man" fucking delusional
Lol ya maybe this guy on the stand wasn’t the best idea by the defense yikes
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with how many people are now defending a guy who disemboweled a seventeen year old, stabbed a tiny teenage girl, and murdered another kid. What the fuck is happening to peoples' brains? How is everyone turning into an absolute soulless sociopath?
I commiserate with you, they protest for Hamas. Thousands in the streets protesting for the mad beasts of Oct 7th I can't understand it.
Right? I'm so confused. Like it's FIVE people he stabbed. How can that be defendable by so many people. I could see it differently if it was one person and he retreated. But he attacked all of them violently with deadly force. Yes he was threatened and everyone was in the wrong but that doesn't absolve him of this act of insanity. People defending him and completely villainizing the teens/young adults have some messed up logic.
Well Said!! This is so insane!!
@@OtDawn What?
@@millie663"He attacked all of them." So, they were just lying around, lounging on the sand and he walked up and attacked them? Is that what you're implying?
The attorney is so annoying. Only says right and correct 5000 times.
Right?
To me, it’s leading 🤷🏻♀️😑
@@jayc4743👍🤣
@@sandihulbert5902 🤦🏾♂️you can lead on cross… so yes the prosecution is asking leading questions at times.
The defense is 2... agreed?
Prosecutor can't do anything without co- counsel whispering hints. Terrible!
Prosecutor is a ingnorant idiot defending bullies and their stupidity .MR HUI DIDN'T STARTTHE BS THE WANTABES CAUSED THIS WTF up.This is what is happening today. No respect, No trust Nohonrr No brains!!!
Lol lol there are two people there for a reason to work together !!! This happens EVERYDAY in our courthouses, at the best trials
Watch a random trial. Try OJ these are the best of the best and they be whispering the whole trial.
Do research before you talk. 😏😘
Because this case is so weak and should have never been tried.
Agreed. The other attorney should be doing the cross examination
It was extremely disturbing to listen to co-counsel give him instructions! So corrupt!
lesson learned: don't touch someone's tubes unless they give consent
Prosecution: Asks many questions about the event and aftermath
Mui: repeats I don't remember multiple times
Prosecution: But when the defense asked you questions on how you were feeling and other details you remember that right?
Ouch
Yeah he felt fear for his life and defended himself against a drunk and high mob attacking him.
@@angiejorah100% he should b at home
@@angiejorah you can't pull out a knife, hit a woman and when a man hits you and another pushes you go on a stabbing. That's illegal. He even kept stabbing people in the back and going forward stabbing others even though people weren't attacking him. He also tries to get rid of the knife, tried to pass police, and lies multiple times to the police that he was being attacked with knives and initially lies about not being involved. People who act out of self defense usually don't do all of that.
@@jc1daddy2 The people attacking him were not stabbed in the back. He defended himself.
@@jc1daddy2 The women put their hands on him 1st.
When a person is afraid or panicked, their body goes through a physical process which include
feeling unsteady, dizzy, lightheaded or faint
feeling like you are choking
a pounding heart, palpitations or accelerated heart rate,
chest pain or tightness in the chest, sweating, hot or cold flushes, shortness of breath or a smothering sensation,
nausea, vomiting or diarrhea, numbness or tingling sensations,
trembling or shaking. (To name a few)
You cannot concentrate nor process things the same as you may otherwise when your body is in “fight or flight” mode.
It’s a built in survival mechanism that we all have.
Don’t pretend to know what you’d do unless it was happening to you
Great. He said his fear level was one out of 10 when facing Maddison. He stupidly admitted to pushing her. Done.
1 out of ten till he realized he was up against the goon squad willing to kill him for tiktok clout
And chemical changes are likely to occur in your brain impacting your judgment and fight or flight process
I totally agree!
@@tomsanger5548 after she put her hands on him. Justified.
We all have to remember all of this unraveled in about what 4min… beginning to end…
EXACTLY! Those numskulls saying he should't have walked away so he's guilty are pathetic!
Think about it. The guy managed to gut another full grown adult, nearly gutted a female who was in the hospital for a month, stabbed two other people, and managed to kill Isaac.
Nobody knew he had a knife and there's no confirmed serious injuries and the only thing he complained about was his butt hurting. Later, he claimed his throat did but never said that anyone until today.
Omg EXACTLY. Having any of them try to explain why they did whatever is crazy because it happened so fast.
Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek...wow, now I understand why it's such an important thing for us to do... turn the other cheek when you are surrounded by a mob of people acting like this.
@@williamphillips2239are you saying he couldn’t evaluate the situation, see he was out numbered and make moves to evac? That goes against logic he was being pulled away refused the out and chose to stand up to people he himself refers to kids. Everyone there that day was drunk and lacked common faculties. I don’t feel bad for him if he’s convicted. If he isn’t that’s fine too. At the end of the day his choice may have not cost him his life but he’s ruined what’s left of it.
This guy was looking for trouble, pleading innocence. It's like when guys pretend to not be interested in girls they're interested in.
He knew what he was doing, wanted to teach the kids a lesson.
Yep. He wanted to prove himself as a man. He probably has a lot of insecurities.
Why is the judge whispering points to the lawyer? It almost seems like he's coaching the prosecution, is this normal practice?
His conversation with Cops is super damning. Throwing away the knife is super damning.
Not really. Neither of those things proves he wasn't defending himself
It proves he's a liar, and that He didn't feel legally justified to do what He did.
@arkeam9292 No, unless you go through something like that, you won't know the feelings and adrenaline one is going through.
Even innocent people have admitted and sent to prison.
You have NO IDEA what he was thinking or feeling.
@@The_ScapeGoat he cleaned the blood off the knife and dumped it... then he put on glasses and a had and returned to his group and acted like nothing happened
When You're forced to use deadly force in self defense, U don't leave. U surrender to cops yourself and any weapon you may of had to use. U don't have to tell Ur story to the cops necessarily.... but U definitely don't lie. U have a right to remain silent.
Ive been jumped by 7 people once. You just react. You do not see faces just shapes and the sounds are unrecognizable. Easy to say should of could of would of. When you're not the one getting smacked around.
I hear you. I've been in a similar situation.
Exactlyyyy!!!
for real all these people who have never been surrounded and physically assualted (or even just taunted and pushed around if you want to minimize it) they have no idea what its like and they say they would have reacted calmy and just let the berating happen bro people literally have no empathy and im starting to notice its the ones who are always claiming to be the most socially conscientious etc
This man was not ambushed or jumped. This man initiated a confrontation. This man used a concealed knife. This man is refusing to answer the questions. His smile is evil and he claims “I’m not smiling” it is a sneering.
@@conchhead1 He was jumped. He had a knife in his hand and they jumped him.
He's getting caught in too many lies guilty I change my mind
He contradicted himself like 60 times between defense and prosecutor
His story is all over the place…things don’t add up and he’s contradicting himself over and over again…
He won’t even admit to that being him in the video . Wow. Too much lies. At least be a little remorseful. You hurt people badly. Took a life. Like damn. He deserves some time for sure. I get they were talking shit but you ran up. You wanted to fight. “Kids being kids” as he clutched his hands together. GUILTY.
They try to analyze this frame by frame as if every millisecond could be stopped and thought out as it happened. It just doesnt work that way.
That’s literally the prosecution’s only hard evidence. They gotta make every frame count if they wanna get this man charged with 1st degree murder. Grasping for straws for sure
Exactly.
Yeah because in a murder trial, you don’t want to slow the video down to show when he pulled his knife out and when he murdered someone. It just doesn’t happen that way. You have to play the video at full speed. That’s the most unintelligent ignorant remark I’ve seen yet.
That’s what they’ve done for every witness. The defense attorneys did the same exact thing.
It COULD have been stopped. To not analyze every move would be stupid. He could have walked away. HE initiated the entire thing.
His lawyers should've never let him on the witness stand
It was his decision.
I agree. The prosecution was drooling at the prospect.
He knows that now. Like everyone who's ever made this mistake. I've made this mistake twice, though both times it was the only way to introduce evidence they were trying to block. Twice. Both times sucked and didn't go the way I thought it would. You only think you can. Even a second rate prosecutor can talk circles around an average person. Because the average person isn't all that intelligent.
If the lawyers advised the defendant not to take the stand why did he do so because he's not looking good. He either has a very bad memory or was seriously drunk.
Why? Can’t handle your “usual suspect” looking bad on stand?
People who thinks this is selfdefence are crazy
I agree, people that think he is innocent strike me as being bloodthirsty and cowardly. Bloodthirsty in that they seem to rejoice in the injuries/death Miu sowed and Cowardly in that they say they would have responded in the same way that he really should have been in fear of his life. I don't think I heard any physical threats directed towards Miu. I did hear a lot of requests for him to get away from the teenagers. His lies and actions immediately afterwards make him look real guilty
Thank you so much Christina for such analisis...the best and most professional I've seen so far about this case. I was already disgusted by the verdict but you just made it much more clear. This is a case that should be appealed 100%. While I'm very sorry that a life was lost, this sets a very bad precedent in so many levels, from Justice system to bullying to unpunished teenage aggresion and much more. This verdict was as deceiving as the one on the Casey Anthony's case and the OJ Sympson's case. It makes you wonder where does the Justice really stands in this country.
Adrenaline keeps you from feeling pain. The pain comes later. Stupid prosecutor
Exactly, I know why he was tripping , those kids were pushing his buttons and it’s hard for calm reasonable people to lose their cool and he lost it
@@ObiahjonesI get what your saying but he didn’t see the phone why is he staying when there was a verbal disagreement like common sense be the bigger person he was old enough to be they’re dad so like why not just leave them alone especially after the allegations. He should have just left and called the police simple and asked for a officer to escort the situation it’s not that hard!!!!!
@@RosieyAlexushe was trying to walk away, they kept harassing him as he walked and they got up into his face
@@RosieyAlexus looking for his snorkel goggles if youve been paying attention
A sore throat, poor Nick. See what he did to the group
who the fuk does this DA think he is asking why defendant didnt leave after maddie the instigator told him to "leave"? Its not her River or property.
And she put her hands on him.
Its not his river or property to lay hands on their tubes & legs either
@@tomsanger5548 So it's their right to bother someone who is minding their own business? Lol can't make this stuff up
He should have left at any time but he chose to engage with everyone
Nobody acted right here. It is a very sad outcome, but I would be intimidated too by a horde of drunk kids descending on me.
If Nicolae had already cut the girl, why were the kids laughing and acting ridiculous while one boy slapped Nicolae? And if Nicolae had not stabbed or cut anyone at the time the boy slapped Nicolae, why did the boy slap him?
This doesn’t make a lot of sense. I’m obviously going to have to watch this trial to figure this out.
I recommend watching this breakdown of events
I wish he ignored the name-calling and taunting and walked away! Now a young life was lost, 4 others injured, and a suspect about to lose his freedom. What a tragedy😢
I wish he would’ve never approached the teens in the first place. His friends warned him not to.
@@revekat2053 he’s probably gay and wanted to be around the boys, but he couldn’t handle the rejection
Let’s be honest here. This is a case of “when assholes collide”. Throw in alcohol and other intoxicants, and this whole ordeal was just a shit show waiting to happen. I think he was near the kids looking for the phone and they got an attitude with him. They felt like being assholes to some older guy and eventually he thought they were possibly holding the phone to fuck with him. He wasn’t sure if their behavior was locker room behavior or intentional so he kinda messed around by flipping their tubes around. They got up and everyone started surrounding him, taunting him, and bullying him. Of course he could have walked away, but if you watch the video they essentially keep trailing behind him as if he’s trespassing. He appeared to be grabbed by a couple people and ended up hitting that girl. You don’t see her be “hit”. At that point he’s shoved into the water and assaulted. That is when it appears that he starts stabbing anyone who comes up on him. Again, alcohol really played a role in this whole saga and is a clear example of why alcohol is truly one of the worst examples of a drug you can intake in public. Nothing good comes from it. No one is innocent here.
Same thing i said...i think maybe those kids started this whole thing
Totally agree with your observation!
So negligent use of knife led to a death and multiple stabbings? Lol not a reasonable amount of force.
@@a.N.....if I'm getting my ass kicked by a mob, I'm grabbing a weapon.
Yeah, this is pretty much it. What sucks is if he hadn't dropped his snorkle and goggles, I'll bet he would have moved on pretty quickly. He came into the area because he thought the phone might have been there and maybe the kids had it to mess with him, but he didn't want to leave because he knew his goggles and snorkle were there.
Remenber: NEVER talk to the police. Especially after just surviving a traumatic experience.
you mean after you murder someone
Yes… I caught that too..
Remember, its easy to tell people what to do from the comfort of your keyboard. Its another thing to step outside and encounter something like this.
Guarantee youll be talking too in this situation.
so youre saying the children who were attacked should of kept quiet? 🤔
@@dillwidit I think he's saying they should HAVE kept quiet, not OF.
Why did he take a knife to approach the people anyway? Guilty .
When you’re in that situation getting pushed down 2-3 times feels like 9-10 times. It feels like every time you stand up you get put back down. Then you add the water aspect to it too, the group is yelling and taunting. I’m 100% sure Nic Miu felt like he was in serious danger.
The killer had already taken out his knife, opened it and had it in his hand before anyone started pushing him. In fact, while having an open knife in one hand he that initiated the physical contact by pushing a female. The boys responded by pushing him a few times and someone slapped him. Their actions were restrained. It was after mui then stood up that he started stabbing people.
If you feel afraid to the point where you take out a knife, why escalate things by pushing females rather than making moves to withdraw from some a situation? As the prosecutor said "you went with ylur knife prepared for violence and then initiated it".
I agree
@@dtrez3866thank you reading comments like this gives me faith in humanity and shows that not everyone is an idiot. So thanks again for having a brain 😁
The defence lawyer must have been scratching his head when Miu responded that his fear level was 1 out of 10, and then crept up to 3 out of 10 just before pulling out a knife.
He’s been confused since the day this all happend😅 he’s got the scale all wrong, in his head less is more, higher is less 😅
He didnt say his fear level was 1 outta ten, use your ears next time, he said his anger level was a 1 outta 10.
@@ChiefsWin316 not true. he said this earlier when the defense was questioning him.
He flipped the scale and screwed his client. This is what happens when you over coach your client and the client isn’t given the go ahead to just tell it in your own words. He’s over thinking and giving short answers. Just talk and let it out. Unless you are being careful but at this point you should just be speaking in a raw form about what you did and what you saw and what you felt. He can give king answers but he’s trying to be calculated and that comes across as deception
@@ChiefsWin316 Settle petal
Miu is constantly saying he doesn’t remember …this is all lies!!
True, but it doesn’t matter if he remembers or not. The video shows what everyone needs to know.
I felt one way about this story until I heard the stabber’s testimony. What a weird guy! I wonder how many other people he has stabbed and gotten away with?
Those teenagers were absolutely out of line. Obviously bad parenting, and I’ll stand right up and say it! No one’s addressing the fact that their parents allowed them to get severely drunk and behave like super bullies. It’s shameful.
That being said, they didn’t deserve to be stabbed and killed. That was a CRAZY response. Really really crazy.
So you just have no clue how teens work lol their parents likely didn’t just “allow” them to do anything they just did it
In what way is the man "weird" also why would you assume he has stabbed multiple people?
@@MultiNKnight he’s literally on video stabbing people and has admitted it.
Pathetic questioning. He doesnt need a reason to carry a knife. He doesnt need a reason to go look for a phone. You cant guarantee if the float bag is going to work or not. And none of that justifies the teens attacking him.
The irony of this whole thing is he alone was looking for a phone then judged by a mob of 11 and attacked, alone.
Now he sits in court, again alone, asking for none of this and is once again judged by a group of people that evidently don't understand self defense or what it feels like to be wrongfully judged and attacked by a group of people.
Two groups, both using flawed judgement, ruined this mans life.
the one who lost his phone didn't seem to care so why did he?
@@carriekay4827exactly!
haha u defend by ur hands not knife😂
I've seen the full video. It's out there on shock sites. The guy on trial looked out of his mind. But its obvious the recording was started and happening after some other altercation had already occurred. The guy was about to leave or quit, until the second group showed up and attacked him.
Aw really. Where can the full video be found then exactly?
That's not 100% correct.
@@celticwarrior777Try "Kaotic" or "The YNC". But a word of caution. There's some very, very bad stuff on both of these sites. Everything that happened to these kids is like watching an episode of Sesame Street compared to some of the horrific things I've seen on both of these sites. So heads up!
Shock sites? It’s on youtube lol!
@@celticwarrior777
It’s on this same channel, man. “GRAPHIC CONTENT: Apple River Stabbing Released”
If the comments are any indication of the verdict, this will be a hung jury.
Or a not guilty verdict; as it should be.
The jury is very interesting. 7 men and 5 women. Two people in there 20s and one age 90+. Quite a variety. Yes, it only takes on for a hung jury, then it starts all over. But probably the prosecutor would start off with lesser charges than 1st degree. But Mui has already been in jail two years, would they reduce his bond?
There are a couple of older jurors. It'll probably be a young juror who thinks it was self-defense. Irony.
True but most old people are agreeing and only 2 of the jurors are under their 40s. Old people are much more experienced in life and aren’t stupid enough to believe those teens were in fear or felt danger but were the aggressors. Really the women took it to the next level and they were adults but still young and stupid.
It’s as if those trying to act like “he started it” didn’t watch the video or some sht…it’s clear those “kids” instigated this and the woman turned it physical.
I'm all for self-defense but I honestly don't think he needed to kill and stab people.
He “weaponized” words, was humiliated by a woman screaming at him & slashed up 4 people in less than a minute while never once asking for help. Not someone in fear of their life, in my opinion.
Didn't he put his hand up for help?
@@matthewharris-davies8368 he had a friend by him. Never asked for help.
Men are taught not to ask for help. You fight and protect yourself, not ask for help.
@@NixxSixxBixxx according to him, he did ask for help. Just another lie. Jury didn’t believe him either.
@@darlenea653 so he stuck his hand up to get his groups attention what is that then. What about the stab victims.lies omg
This guy made the ultimate mistake of taking the stand and waiving his right to remain silent
I think it will help him. He's not scared to tell the truth, and he's well spoken, compared to the kids.
@@meholder7570he cannot get his story straight at all
@@meholder7570the truth doesn’t look good for him.
@meholder7570 lol yall see what yall want to seem the video shows this guy being aggressive first lol
@@briannavacca5083ya all the kids lieing he def shouldnt have taken the stand, but you basically have to if your going for self defense.
He takes out a kife cause a teenage girl pushed him ? Wow.
He took out a knife because there was an angry mob around him.
He heard what they was calling him he knew what was going to happen he had to defend himself
She is 22 years old.
She shouldn’t have touched him. She wasn’t a teenager. Women are not victims. We are equal. That means equal consequences.
No she took hold of his arm to get his attention & he didn't seem to have any problem with that since he said his fear level was 1 out of 10. He then turned looked at her defiantly said he stood his ground, pulled the knife & then admitted to pushing her. This opens it up to all the witnesses saying he punched her which may be true or not but does open it up that he was the one to first begin an actual physical assault.
I dont understand how people support the behavior of the dumb teenagers though, literally imposing a superiority complex over the man, yelling and screaming over the man instead of listening to what he has to say and asking him what is wrong.
Says a lot about the parents, too.
Shouldn't stab kids. He will find out why when he gets to meet the fellas in jail.
He's his own worst enemy for acting like he didn't know what happened
How many times have you done something wrong and tried to deny it? I’m sure everyone has at one point or another. Who knows what each of us would have done in that same situation.
OMG All the others remember everything differently or not at all.
When people are in shock, they don't remember things. One of the surgeons that operated on one of the 17 year olds testified that that happens.
One of the surgeons that operated on one of the boys testified that when someone is in shock, they don't remember things.
RYAN+ I DONT REMEMBER ANYTHING NOT EVEN WHAT YOU WROTE
No matter where you stand on this case we can all agree this prosecutor sucks, “right”?
Nah. I think you're incredibly incorrect and borderline stupid. He got the defendant to admit to lying multiple times in under an hour and overall he seems angry, temperamental, untrustworthy and violent. That's the mark of a great prosecutor.
Correct
no, that is your opinion, you cannot assume your opinion is everybody else's opinion, you are not in my head nor the other people here watching the trial & commenting. I actually think the Prosecution did a very good job, I also think the Defence did quite well, Miu, in my opinion failed miserably & the Prosecutor did a great job, exposing him & the lies, he doesn't remember but admits these things happen, he just doesn't remember them. This is not a football game, it's a stabbing, killing on the Apple river on a sunny afternoon. You don't know the person, neither do, I however do have an opinion about carrying weapons, why did he walk away leaving 1 person dead, another almost dead, and other stabbed victims, he left a trail of blood, death & chaos? Now it's up to the Legal team to unfold the events of that day & the Jury to decide whether the evidence proves guilt, innocence or a hung jury, it's the Defence's job, no matter whether the defendant is guilty or innocent, they have an obligation to defend their client, to the best of their ability, they are doing a marvellous job, they are both doing a great job.
@@basiahellwich3505 He can have an opinion. He's says the prosecutor sucks. So why get emotional. It's his opinion.Go to your cry room.
Correct
This guy is lying through his teeth
Poor decision to put this guy on the stand.
Why is he on the stand if he can’t remember anything.
Literally all the kids had conflicting stories.
So the jurors would feel sorry for this bully.
You do realize, traumatic events can cause memory loss right? It goes to show how ignorant you are. Pathetic,
@@justice-jb5ld The bully teenagers. Right! I agree.
Of course he remember! Those boys and women who stand as witness are ones can't remember most of the incidents. All of them, they change their story after they talk to each other and after the prosecution talked to them. ALL OF THEM.