How to recognize ancient civilization primitive stone hand axes
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2012
- Demonstration on how to recognize primitive hand held stone axes by comparing similarities of other stone axes. It also demonstrates how they were skillfully crafted to fit perfectly and comfortably in the hand.
Just because a rock feels good in the hand, doesn't make it an artifact. It needs to have grinding marks, pecking marks, or usage wear. Not natural indentations. Those are rocks.
this is a clear case of someone having no clue what they are doing and revelling in their own belief rather than actually educating themselves by investigating what actual ancient tools look like and how they are made.
Could be pestles. Its hard to say from a video.
What if the rock has animal and human faces carved into them? What if you find rocks with the same faces carved over and over again in the same patterns? Dismiss it as pareidolia but why don't you see the same designs in trees or water flowing. I have stones that have turned most skeptics into believers. Glaciers didn't descend into Philadelphia let alone South America so that isn't an option.
Either the natives carved most of these stones or a programmer in the Matrix got lazy. Funny thinking people think that after 10,000 years the natives left no trace of themselves, that's just ignorant thinking
@@phillyrocks3847 Sure. But most of these rocks show nothing. They are just rocks. No wear usage. No carvings.
No! These are not man made artifacts! They don’t even show any use. Please stop pushing this false information. The people that try to sell these to ignorant buyers are the worst. That is clearly a scam.
Bill, I'm on your side but I think many shown in this video are more an example of glacial action or the work of thousands of years in a riverbed than they are works of man. My area of Ohio has produced a multitude of various stone tools that leave no question they required many hours of labor. While some of these you show, we might consider "preforms" (unfinished,or close enough to desired shape to begin work on), for the most part, I can't call em finished stone tools. I'm not saying yours were never used in some fashion, but I can't agree that most of these exhibit the modification that we expect from finds in this state,although on occasion similar stones as you show have been found on archaeological sites& in burials,they're accompanied by the classic tools that leave no room for argument. Don't be dissuaded, keep looking.
I see comments on here from time to time about "if these are artifacts or not". I have done a good bit of reading of archaeology journals recently and have a couple of observations. 1) if you go back far enough into, say the Pleistocene there were not a lot of pretty flaked chert arrowheads and tools. 2) Also, some areas of the US do not have a lot of cherts as a raw material--in the east especially. 3) there is a bias in archaeology toward flaked tools because academic s focus a lot on flaked tools, and not on primitive non-flaked stone tools. I would recommend a good book on this topic-- --PaleoAmerican Archaeology in Virginia, By Wm Jack Hranicky because he talks about this subject and points out that some of the early tools he has found have never been written about or photographed for archaeology journals. One thing he says" when investigating the Pleistocene for archaeological evidence, implements and artifact assemblages are entirely different than those found in the Holocene, namely no projectile points. Many tools of that period may be small, flaked tools, but many of the implements are macro tools for megafauna. These tools have an infinite variety of shape and form." "Tool structure implies function, thus work. The form of a tool is not equal to this equation." New tools are constantly being discovered by archaeologists. And the older the culture the cruder the tool may seem. Also, there is not too much study on stone tools used in pottery and basket making. Hranicky also points out that very old tools are subject to a lot of weathering and erosion from the elements or streams and do not look the same as newer artifacts.
This has to be a satire channel.
I’m in southern Vermont and have been picking up tools there and in Western Mass for quite some time. I’m enjoying this video because I have similar finds. I agree with all the observations made , logical and supported, and ask myself the same questions. I’m very happy to have landed here.
I find these tools along the streams, here on the island of Kauai. They are pretty much identical to those tools I’ve found along streams of the Truckee river near Reno Nevada.
The types of stones are different, but the design is the same…
i think these are just stones dude.
Well, I search for artifacts and I live in a ancient swamp that has been drained over like a hundred years not many rocks around the area it's mainly farm land. But, places I do search on, and find points and others pieces of know artifacts from ancient humans we call the hunt camps mounds etc.. You will find these similar Rocks along with artifacts and you can walk off the spot to complete dirt so my theory is these people brought these similar rocks in from the hills or somewhere because there isn't no rock quarry for many miles. So this man is on to something non believers!
Great comment, I agree
@@OliveMule those stones you are speaking of are probably river cobbles that were gathered in preparation of making stone tools. Parent Material if you will. Its a stock for making tools. Like a block of aluminum for machining a auto part. That block of aluminum isnt a car part until it is machined. Same with those stones you are speaking of.....not stone tools
@@historyhuntsman6950 let gumby know we found pokey' very obvious' you dont find these sorts of shapes just antwhere' duuu.. I wonder why' mr ignorant" and many of these people believe they have monkeys and apes in their lineage' lol.. proving lifeless smatter does exist by their insipid remarks and obtuse comments.. love you videos'
He's onto a bunch of natural rocks and nothing more.Ive studied artifacts from all over the world for 40 years and there us no artifacts here at all
@@len2842 Dekker Excellent response. His interpretation of these stones is as valid as anyone elses. There are a vast multitude of variations caused by time, weather and location, so we're basically all guessing and expressing our interpretations of what we see.
I found a creek with hundreds of axes in them
I have been away awhile and noticed some of the comments. First I would like to clarify that these artifacts are not "Indian" artifacts. These artifacts shown in the video are many thousands of years older. I agree that if the tools shown in the video were the tools these ancient inhabitants used then they would have starved to death. Fortunately they made a variety of tools for a variety of different uses. Another important fact to know is that all artifacts are not sharp. I wonder if thousands of years from now when our civilization is found that the only credible artifacts would be knives and guns because that was the only way we could eat. I could not begin to know all of the different tools used in all parts of the world. I do know that the most abundant are used in our everyday living the least of which are guns and knives.
Idk man, these look like natural formations.
hey. I find stuff like this. I posted a video and then got attacked. I then posted this video and was brutally attacked. I agree that these are not just natural rocks.....but cant defend intelligently. go to artifacts anonymous.
+paleoriverman Well people like to attack this video because these happen just be and look like natural rock formations. I have been hunting along the Columbia River for a long time as did my great uncles and grandparents have. And I have only found one actual pestle and that of other grinders, hard-stone like axes, pestles, celts are extremely hard to find now a-day in the area mainly due to the fact that the area has been hunted for years and the area was later flooded by the dam and that there wasn't a major use for those specific tools as there was in a area like Ohio or Missouri.
no flint in my field. Just rocks and not sharp. I think for washing cloths. I have a few rock scrapping tools that are normally made from flint. Or chert. I wonder which came first.
Where are you located... I know that there are tones of these type of hand crafted tools out there... among'st them you can find really beautiful' and unique' tools so small that it takes a trained eye to spot them.. beads, carving chisels, tiny arrow heads, some are ergonomically designed for ease of use and convenience' happy hunting' William Shira has the ability to recognize what has been fashioned by the hands of men.. I have received responses from people who for some reason are really negative about what you find' others who are appreciative and thank me for the opportunity opportunity to enjoy them.. some say to me "who told you that they are what you' say they are.. what schooling do you have? what makes you an expert' and when its something so' so' obvious' all it takes is a sensible mind and the ability to use logic' ... carbon dating on what has been fashioned from stone' his highly unreliable.. book knowledge may be good for some things but with something like this' certainly not so' .. most of what is found like these items I believe is most likely in and around 3500 yours old.. especially when based on taking into consideration the most reliable history source' and the timelines of the occurrences logged within.. thanks' and I bid you happy hunting...
This is very good. To the inexperienced eye, many stone artifacts, at first glance, don't immediately look like a hand-worked tool - which is understandable because some natural processes CAN produce some very similar shapes. Sometimes, as one holds them at an angle, you can typically see where they've been symmetrically shaped - especially on the bladed portions. And for ones used with a wood attachment, you can see places worked to fit it. On my acreage, as I've found so many of these - particularly in the areas adjacent my creek, you start to find many similar artifacts with the same technique and placements of their shaping. And that's how you know they aren't just weird rocks with natural shapes. Plus, you have to take into consideration that thousands of years of weathering has taken place, particularly if they've been submerged in water. Indians often didn't spend time to get the blades, etc. perfect, as they merely desired a quickly usable object in the shortest amount of time. So, they'd start with a basic, desirably shaped stone. And many of these were either cached to be seasonally returned to or simply discarded after a hunting trip, as they were typically too heavy to carry long distances - especially before horses became available, or if canoe transport didn't exist.
Last thing, many mistake spear points for arrowheads. Spearheads would make poor arrows as they lack the necessary aerodynamics. Arrowhead points require much greater expertise, when knapping them, as hitting them with another piece of stone too hard or at the wrong angle could easily crack the entire whole piece, so as to be unusable! Some of the best points are truly works of art and expertise!
Your posts are great, so very interesting. I found a piece of granite in Massachusetts that looks very unusual and would love to get you opinion on.
This guy was so ahead of his time. OG youtube troll/rage baiter.
You have amazing finds. Do you have any effigy videos?
Thanks for the great information didn't realize the similarities in stones regardless of the size or type of stone or if hand held or hefted.
good hunting Ron. best of luck to you.. I will be out in my hunting grounds soon to.. great form of physio... the serenity is nice.
I found a very unique looking design of hand axe a long time ago.
Never seen another like it.
Shaped like a shark tooth and multi colored with multiple grip assists and in great shape.
Id be happy to send photos and get input on it.
Very obvious' all your mockers' are just that'.. Ron Ballard, nice finds.. it is nice to see that there are some for whom logic works for in the world yet' a dying breed .. I have gotten the same kind of negative feedback and attacks by foolish ingrates that have allowed themselves to be stumped up, crippled and confined by the status quo' book knowledge worshippers' it is sad that this arrangement has produced so many arrogant staffers that wave phd's.. and bow to even pseudo sciences' ... this is how so many has been duped into believing they actually came from lifeless smatter' rather than from an intelligent source' and yet still' I do see evidence of there being lifeless matter' or near lifeless anyway... its all made evident by the insipid replies made and obtuse comments... Thanks again Mr Shira' for sharing you your unprecedented wisdom with ones who are appreciative of some of the very best archaeological finds on the continent' ...
man, these non believers are just that. they probably say it's the work of Satan. . they're the ones who should stay off the internet.
It isn't about 'believing' or 'faith' or 'Indian mysticism'--these are just rocks that have NEVER been modified or used by human hands
Hand and finger grips mean nothing--and to boot, there is NO evidence these rocks were either shaped or worked by human hands at all. For every method the Indians used to sha\e a rock, there are distinctive physical marks left upon the stone that are unique to the tool/method used to produce them
There are but a very limited number of ways Indians could effectively shape a rock:
1) By hard percussion spalling--that is, the removal of a large spall, flake or blade using heavy blows against an angle or corner of a rock.
2) By knapping--that is, the reduction of a rock by utilizing a striking platform to effect removal of concoidal-fractured flakes.
3) By Pecking--that is, the reduction and reshaping of the dock's surface by pulverizing minute portions of the surface with light to medium blows from a hammerstone.
4) By grinding the surface into shape against another rock, and no matter how large or small the affected surface area is, one must be able to move the grinding stone against the rock to be shaped.
5) Polishing--that is, removal of the striations, Divots, flake scars and imperfections left by the grinding process or other methods as above.
6) Drilling--that is, creating rings, partial rings, divots and perforations using a drill to shape the features desired.
7) Incising--that is, the repeated scratching away of material to create lines, curves and other features similar to what one would draw with a pencil on paper.
What galls me is that such folks know nothing about these processes, yet deem themselves knowledgeable enough to 'recognize' human agency in a naturally shaped rock. This guy has no business telling anyone anything about Indian tools
.....Well I am Native American. Mohegan Tribe Of Indians of Connecticut. A federally recognized tribe and have been hunting and collecting stone tools for over 25 years. Those my friends are NOT stone tools in any way shape or form. My collection is vast.. hundreds if pieces that I share everyone of with the the head of the tribal archeology department. I know enough to know that those are 100% not in any way shape or form stone tools.
I have collected stone tools for a long time that have many of these shapes ..
But also the small tool at the bottom
Right with the dimple sticking out...
Does anyone know what that is
Hello William
I found what appears to be a primitive tool. I was wondering if I could send you a picture for your opinion?
Love your content. Learned a lot thanks.
ty for sharing
Excellent-
Very interesting.
Hope to view many more presentations in 2013 and learn from your vast knowledge.
Your video was kool,only people who are into studying rocks ,other words nobody likes a smart ass.if you had the as much sense as this man had rocks you would be dangerous .keep showing your videos we like them
Do you have an e-mail where I can send a picture of what I think is a hand pick that I found?
It would be one thing to find these stones where they SHOULDNT be to assume that man had used them, but if you found these in a stream bed it would be like picking up sand granuals on the beach and assuming they were altered by ancients.
I have some item but the group I try to share with act like I'm crazy or just plain stupid, what can I do to make it so I know my stuff is re÷.thanks for any help
How old would you say your artifacts are?
If i was going to make an axe of stone id look for a stone that was near to that shape .
I'm not an expert or professional but any thing I've ever found has chips or little grooves in patterns and (grinding) tools have very apparent wear patterns at one end .
Found one in a dredge bucket from the bottom of the delaware river in 40 feet. Still got it. Thought it was axe head but it was hand axe. 45 degree anle. Curved contour grinding marks.
Thank You for sharing I believe what lots of people don't understand is how many people has lived here through all of time some have been Very skilled at make things with there hands other's not so much but all of them have needed tools of some sort or thier hands would stay raw and sore just about all of us have picked up a rock at some point to use it for something.
What I'm getting at some people keep there tools ship shape in order and so on the go the extra mile to have the best no matter how much time it takes. The rest of us don't put that much time into them but are tools are just as important to us we don't care what they look like as long as they work. I didn't mean to right you a book and I hope you got what I am trying to say here. Not everyone that has ever lived are going to work days so they can buy snap on when they can work hours and buy the same made in china tool. Keep doing what you are doing and don't let the people who think all people from the past went with snap on change your views.
Thank You and have a great day!
Hey it's not right to look down on someone unless you put your hand out to help them up
Are these stonr tools worth anything
I watched this video several days ago and really paid attention to the "feel and ergonomics" of these tools. I found it extremely interesting because I notice that when I pick up items on my desert walks the first thing after the visual is how does this tool feel? Today I saw a unique item that had the shape (cylindrical) of some of the smaller antler (drifts) knapping tools I have seen, but it was stone with some iron (has the weight/balance of metal) with a perfectly angled smooth top that fit in the crook of my finger with a slight contour in the mid and a slight lip to hold your index finger. The "drop weight" and balance of this little tool as a percussion device for light flaking is amazing. My wife asked me how I ever recognized this was a tool and I mentioned this video and your repeated focus on the angles and hand fit and contours depressions etc. Invaluable. Now I have to remember where I left that perfectly wedged (and hand fit) axe from last week on one of my walks because I thought it was "too perfect." :-(.
Wow bro... very kewl..
Every single piece visible in this video is ALL natural! Can we set you up in archaeology courses? We have some for beginners
These are pointy geofacts
Could you give me your opion on a find my son found for us? I put a video on my page.
Creek rock! No damage or shaping! Would have been good stones but natural
Yes they are right I have found some things that are some sort of plack
Dude your first ax is a duck. He has multiple head images. I'm sure much more. Which is the real way to tell the old tools. Art. They chipped faces and animals into them. And they most all have a jawline to cheekbone at least... Usually more than one. You probably have tons of crazy cool shit and don't even know it. Bears, turkey, fish, deer, mink, beaver, blah blah, we got a lot of popular ones here.
Humans have been living in the USA for a long time. Archaeologists found stone tools humans used to butcher animals in what's now Oregon. The tools were below ancient camel and bison tooth fragments that were over 18,000 years old. Older tools in stream beds would be weathered and tumbled. Also different regions of the USA have different types of rocks used to make tools. I find very primitive arrowheads in VA made of quartz that look nothing like fine chert and agate points in the American West. Tools varied and evolved. Woodland civilizatons had different food sources and tool needs. You can see working , pecking and some flaking on many axes and some were flaked then polished. If they are real old and in a or near a stream the working edges get rounded. And some have been tumbled and weathered. Some natural stones may fit your hand nicely but you can usually tell if some work has been done to the stone to make it fit. If primitive man needed a stone to crush acorns or dig roots and found one that would do the job with little need for flaking or pecking he would use it. At any rate there is a continuum of history and a continuum of tool complexity. Not everything is a pretty arrowhead.
Thank you
What is the value of a group of artifacts like that?
$O there's not an artifact one there.All natural stones
i only saw the vid without audio and idk why it has so many dislikes... but i tell u one thing, is impressive how every rocks fits perfectly your hand...right?? cheers
I found one im uncertain about i just dont know how to tell forsure
Look naturally formed but believe you are on the right track. Good vid. Subbing.
I found my first artifact just this year. It looked at first glance like a stone, until I noticed the channels and grooves on it. A place for the thumb....a place for the palm of the hand, a place for the fingers. And the bottom was worn and darker because of compression. The compression of hitting hard objects repeatedly over time. I see NOTHING like that here. Nothing. Just shaped rocks. I think you are seeing things that only you can see. Sorry.
Don't be sorry. Just keep on looking and don't give up when someone tells you that that artifact that you found is simply a geofact. As you continue to search and study you will find that some artifacts will fit perfectly in your hand and some that will not. Simply some were hand held and some were hafted or even used in ways that you and I do not understand. Happy hunting.
Compression does not darken a stone, hand and finger grips are nothing but natural weathering.
Hand and finger grips mean nothing--and to boot, there is NO evidence these rocks were either shaped or worked by human hands at all. For every method the Indians used to sha\e a rock, there are distinctive physical marks left upon the stone that are unique to the tool/method used to produce them
There are but a very limited number of ways Indians could effectively shape a rock:
1) By hard percussion spalling--that is, the removal of a large spall, flake or blade using heavy blows against an angle or corner of a rock.
2) By knapping--that is, the reduction of a rock by utilizing a striking platform to effect removal of concoidal-fractured flakes.
3) By Pecking--that is, the reduction and reshaping of the dock's surface by pulverizing minute portions of the surface with light to medium blows from a hammerstone.
4) By grinding the surface into shape against another rock, and no matter how large or small the affected surface area is, one must be able to move the grinding stone against the rock to be shaped.
5) Polishing--that is, removal of the striations, Divots, flake scars and imperfections left by the grinding process or other methods as above.
6) Drilling--that is, creating rings, partial rings, divots and perforations using a drill to shape the features desired.
7) Incising--that is, the repeated scratching away of material to create lines, curves and other features similar to what one would draw with a pencil on paper.
What galls me is that such folks know nothing about these processes, yet deem themselves knowledgeable enough to 'recognize' human agency in a naturally shaped rock. This guy has no business telling anyone anything about Indian tools
GOOD JOB NOT MANY CAN RECONIZE TOOLS...KUDOS
Yep.. more water worn creek rock.. if I took you to some of our local creeks you'd have a freaking seizure because there are rock bars with tons of these naturally formed rocks..
Well the ancestors weren't idiots like some people. They started with river rocks and adjusted them. How do you explain the chipped points on a couple. The narrow points should be worn off or broken.
I just found a fire site i believe, the water is way down I found some stone just like fire place can I send u picture
Original ACE hardware owner
I am just getting into and your videos have certainly helped me to see these tools. I live on Conasauga River and it looks like someone has emptied truck loads of this stuff in and around the river . I have a few pieces I can’t identify and have not seen anything like it. Keep doing videos love them .
I have worked at nutting Stones by Stone, by hand, and do believe that most of your elongated stones that form a point at the bottom are possibly most likely nutting Stone tools at different gauges .
J’ai en m’a possession plusieurs de ces artefacts
River rock, no human fashioned these "rocks".
Awesome
is this thunder stone????????????????
No, just a bunch of sex stones
All creek rock natural formations.
Really. Simply try out one of your handaxes. You will quickly understand that the impact of the blow transfers directly into your hand, the way you hold them. And yeah, it hurts.
I wish I could show you the tool I found so you could tell me about it.
good channel
This guy knows what he's talking avout.
@ North America has been inhabited for 10,000 years that is admitted by archeology, probably longer Do you think they used the same rocks and passed them down. Do you think they carried them around. They fashioned their tools as needed. I've been to old multi generational Indian villages and hunted all over Indian country,. alot of chipping but no arrowheads. But there are always tools like what this guy is finding because blind people like you overlooked the obvious and left them behind. Eyes and brains.
@@montiemehsling2992 no this lot are water worn rocks with none of the marks of work to make a tool. No pressure bulbs left by hammer stone strikes nor flake lines nor the shiny look you get from polished tools which are much more axe shaped than this bunch. None of these look sophisticated enough to be the kinds of Mesolithic or Neolithic work you would expect to find in the Americas and much more like the crude work you would expect from early hominids.
Glad you think so….😂
J’ai de ses artefacts identiques aux vôtre.
These are NOT artifacts--these are common rocks, nothing more. It is obvious the poster of this video has no clue at all what is involved in shaping a rock with another rock
Hand and finger grips mean nothing--and to boot, there is NO evidence these rocks were either shaped or worked by human hands at all. For every method the Indians used to sha\e a rock, there are distinctive physical marks left upon the stone that are unique to the tool/method used to produce them
There are but a very limited number of ways Indians could effectively shape a rock:
1) By hard percussion spalling--that is, the removal of a large spall, flake or blade using heavy blows against an angle or corner of a rock.
2) By knapping--that is, the reduction of a rock by utilizing a striking platform to effect removal of concoidal-fractured flakes.
3) By Pecking--that is, the reduction and reshaping of the dock's surface by pulverizing minute portions of the surface with light to medium blows from a hammerstone.
4) By grinding the surface into shape against another rock, and no matter how large or small the affected surface area is, one must be able to move the grinding stone against the rock to be shaped.
5) Polishing--that is, removal of the striations, Divots, flake scars and imperfections left by the grinding process or other methods as above.
6) Drilling--that is, creating rings, partial rings, divots and perforations using a drill to shape the features desired.
7) Incising--that is, the repeated scratching away of material to create lines, curves and other features similar to what one would draw with a pencil on paper.
What galls me is that such folks know nothing about these processes, yet deem themselves knowledgeable enough to 'recognize' human agency in a naturally shaped rock. This guy has no business telling anyone anything about Indian tools
I missed where the poster stated that these were "Indian" tools. Me thinks you're pretending to know more about this than you really do. You make such definitive statements. The truth is you know no more about this than anyone else...quit acting soooo butt hurt.
@@sramm lmao come on. That's a big pile of stones with only qualification being "feels good in hand".
and some are metric.
Nice 👍🏻, much older than Indian tools.
Damn, people are frikn assholes.
Enjoy your time, do your thing. Appreciating and exploring and sharing is good.
Peace out
Where I come from they call that a rock
Damn !!! No shit Sherlock and that was funny !!! I 've also seen quite a few of these shaped hard blunt rock objects in just about every creek or river I been in and that's quite a few !!! I think most artifacts are more so in the ground deeper than just these well worn fresh water rocks is just my opinion and it seems that all these comments are half and half and cancel one another out unless the actual human beings that potentially handled such said objects were here to verify that they are artifacts from man's past then we really have no true way of knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt and that's my humble honest opinion !!! Let's face it an educated man with a degree is not gonna know 100% that these stones are true past man's artifacts !!! But in the age of the internet today we can now believe every thing !! NOT !!!
I just found one today exactly the same as the one you're holding in your video at 2:12
I'm thinking those are just naturally formed rocks by nature .....
Haha...ive been hunting and collecting a long time. Def not stone tools. You need to do some serious research on what your hunting. Maybe a hammerstone there in that pile of rocks. Those are all what I call leaverites......Leave Her Right Where You Found Her!
Uh, I mean no disrespect but you have a collection of geofacts not artifacts. All of your stones are naturally occurring rocks formed by the forces of wind, water, and erosion.
Geofacts is a word given to stones that look like artifacts but cannot be because they disagree with the theories and ideology of the mainstream archeologists/geologists. Another term used besides geofacts is "natural phenomenons". This term is used for objects naturally formed in a unique way that cannot be explained, except for one minor explanation, they cannot be artifacts. Really? Formed through erosion from water, wind or ice or....or.... man? No not man. Why? Because it does not fit the ideology of these experts. Ideology is forming an idea or theory where all study discovery or search has to conform to the idea already established. If it does not fit the idea then it has to be explained away even if by calling it a "natural phenomenon". Like being judged guilty without a chance to prove your innocence and no matter how much evidence you have to prove your innocence it would have to be labeled a "natural phenomenon" because nothing can be accepted by the Court except the evidence that would prove the idea of your guilt. What ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty" or "Theory until proven fact".
William Shira Sir, I am not an archaeologist nor am I part of any establishment. I've spent the last 30 years collecting artifacts on private land with the permission of land owners. This hobby has lead me to study and learn how to identify artifacts based on material, knapping techniques, and outright appearance. Even so it doesn't take a trained scientist to know an eroded rock from a human manipulated rock. Artifacts do bear evidence such as pecking, polishing, drilling, etc. To follow your thinking anyone can pick up a large smooth rock and say it was shaped by a human and because no one was there to see it, then it can't be disproved. Hey, if you want to put up a video and imagine how this rock was formed that's fine. However, you are representing these stones as "ancient civilization primitive stone hand axes" and I respectfully disagree.
I don't mind you disagreeing. There are so many different periods and techniques of tool making that it would be difficult to have a good understanding of it all. I have studied and researched this type of tool making for many years. I assure you that I am not just picking up stones. In fact I would think that watching the video would verify that these stones were not naturally formed but I realize that it is very difficult to show the markings in the videos. But the likeness in the shape of each stone is not geologically natural. If indeed they were just a natural stone that did not look like an artifact then it would not be a geofact. A geofact is considered a natural phenomenon that somehow has been formed to look like an artifact. So maybe you used the wrong terminology. None-the-less that might help you understand why I replied the way I did.
You must be jealous commissioner ;)
trev & shane I happen to think he is correct. This guy has a collection of natural stones. Period.
Well put. I wouldn't insult him by calling him an idiot, I would just say he's a very enthusiastic amateur.
Those are not stone axes those are rocks. nothing but rocks.
those aren't hand axes, I have read many of the comments saying as how these have been damaged over time, but coming in at an angle such as the ones in this video would not be very effective at cutting because, one, the tip would be too sharp to be usable for much time. Two, grinding the tools to such a an angle would waste valuable energy and would be a waste of time as they could grind it less to a bit of a flatter angle and have it last longer, and take off more material. And finally, the angle of the tip, if they are axes and over time their tips have broken off and flatenned the angle of it would've been very sharp but the problem with sharp angles is that they bite too much, they dig into the wood and do not take much material off. Also, seriously, a wedge with a flatenned back? That's obviously not a hand axe.
Good greif! You really need to brush up on your skills, all that sitting there is River cobble! My archaeology business will set you up in some courses!
Lol. No thanks.
All artifacts aren't arrowheads and pretty pieces like most people like to collect.
What you have is not even altered by man! ALL natural. These are not axes, not even used my ancient man.
I can get you set up in some archaeology courses if you'd like
nice finds bro
😂😂😂😂 they’re natural rocks
A couple pictured have flaked points too.
i love your videos
The fit in the hand, ergonomics is the key.frequently they would burn the wood to work their thru a big log, nice collection of assorted tools.
I made it with Woodglut plans!
PEOPLE LIKE US WHO HAVE HUNDREDS KNOW HOW TO SOPT THEM
these are just some beach rocks dude....
Orion Riedel I would say they are hammerstones.. wedges for splitting wood with (cedar) weights... I have found similar... in Jasper, granet, serpentine, quarts, and lots of basalt...
Hogwash!
I thought no you can feel it when you spit them and hold them in your hand They all can't be like the Clovis.
Nice I think they draw you to them and there are many.
Yes, most of these are natural. If these were all tools I would have thousands of them. There would be chipping on it
You really should quit posting this garbage! Water polished rocks, NOTHING MORE!
A pile of rocks
HOW TO RECOGNIZE MOTHER NATURE, IF THAT THE STUFF THE ANCIENT ONES USED THE WOULD HAVE STARVED. THERE IS ZERO WORK ON THOSE ROCKS. THERE IS ZERO WEAR ON THOSE ROCKS. WHO WOULD CARRY THAT STUFF AROUND WHEN YOU COULD PICK UP THAT STUFF ANYWHERE. SORRY BUT YOU HAVE NO ARTIFACTS. THE INDIANS HAD GREAT PRIDE IN THEIR WORKMANSHIP, AND CREATED WORKS OF ART. NICE ROCK COLLECTION
lmfao!
This guy must be on some pretty serious hallucinogens.. Absolutely none of these are artifacts.
I can pic up a natural rock that suits wot i need 2 do,use it 4 sed purpose+chuc it bac-duz that make it a tool?? ALL STILL JUST ROCKS-we got them here in Oz-just no native Americans....🤔
I think I just became stupid from watching this. Are u serious
Please sir, study before demonstrating on something you obviously know nothing of!