I am finding similar tools . Always wondering if they are authentic or natural stones ? I am also finding stones that have obvious rubbing and grove marks in them , without hafting marks on them .
Thank you for sharing. I wish there was more information about these more "crude" artifacts. Youve inspirwd me to start my own channel and document mine.
SO WHAT I'VE NOTICED is that on like all the videos or forums i have found with great artifacts there's ALWAYS A BUNCH OF TROLLS commenting that what we're looking at are not artifacts and worth nothing. Never seen any other topic that is shit on as much! Great work and thank you. The info is greatly appreciated.
@@jaypercival431 I have several hammer stones and abraders with resin and sand, like sandpaper on them. But they are only about 750-1,200 years old. Tell me, where abouts do you live? I live in southern Utah where broken points and stone tools litter the ground and there are ruins and petroglyph, every 500 feet.
I grew up in Lake County , Indiana . Near the Kankakee . It's near to Lowell Indiana . West Creek was my best place to go . Now all the fields are built on my old best places . 2 Tomahawk , many spear tips , a few knives , and many scrapers ! I'd go fishing , hunting , and dirt biking . ...then spend the whole day looking for arrow heading . Have you ever heard of the Great Marsh ? Great times in the early 70 ' s . Peace , from Cass County MICHIGAN , USA ! Maranatha !
Amazing-many of the "non descript" non typical artifacts I find in west Michigan sites look identical to the ones you found in Idaho. And the sites in Michigan are known occupied sites. I have learned a lot from this channel as I use to only look for items made with chert/flint/obsidian and quartz. Great vids. Thank you for sharing!
Some people only recognise knapped tools, but don't realise people didn't always have that skill, they made crude tools to get them by, simple as that. Beautiful tools came along much later. Oldowan tools look like natural breakage, but because they were found by "specialist, archeologist" they are amazing tools. We know more than these people think we do. Well done for finding these and keep ot up
B.s. you cannot use a hardstone tool such as a hammer or a mano or an axe without either altering the stones surface to shape the tool or there has to be some evidence of wear use. You cannot hit a stone or use a stone against something without there being some evidence left behind. What you just said is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You need to educate yourself and not blow smoke up peoples arses
In the United States that isn’t true. From the earliest evidence of man in North America we get some of the most refined tools ever made (Clovis, Folsom, dalton, Cumberland etc.) even some of the theorized pre-Clovis points they are still refined bifaces.
Some archaeologists are saying man has been in America for 20,000 years-pre-clovis. Also as far as nice refined tools-- not as much East of the Appalachian mountains @@thomash4950
Nothing but funky shaped rocks He’s obviously trying to and in fact has convinced himself these were native Everything on this table is a (jar) just a rock
I'm trying to get into artifact collecting...but 90% of the time, I'm looking at a strange rock, holding it and trying to envision it's use, but I'm always questioning if it's natural. How do you know?
@@rodneygreenwaymusic they don't know and I feel this video is inappropriate because of the misinformation. These aren't artifacts. When you find a tool you'll know it immediately. They are unambiguous. Even a plain rock that's used to shape other tools has distinct pock marks and wear that is indicative and impossible to mistake for natural erosion. When you find a flint or hard stone tool you'll instantly get goosebumps.
I found something just like the ax at 4:44 but mine is more polished it seems. I thought it was an axe when I found it then talked myself out of it. When you pulled that one out I gasped lol
Yeah, I think I agree with your analysis.... I like to look around for old artifacts sometimes when I'm exploring outdoors, and I think I might have come across am artifact at a glance quite often. I always end up disregarding them as just old rocks shaped by the erosion of time in the end....
Can you see the pictorial images in some of you artifacts?I've been collecting so many interesting pieces in oregon just inland of the coast from Lincoln city to eugene some Salem I lived upper part of Idaho and believe I found pre ice age artifacts crazy !
great video, some people think that all artifacts are beautiful works of art and always made from flint or quartz , chert , jasper. fact is life was not easy especially if they lived in a region where those types stone did not exist.. they used whatever they could find and would make tools and point out of and they would do this very quickly and would make many of them. they can look like just natural stone to the uninformed, uneducated and they closed minded people that think all indians were proud stone smiths that walk the planet with their heads high and carried an arsenal of perfectly made Flint arrowheads and tools.. there were some amazing craftsman no doubt but also there were people on the verge of starvation and lived as savages.. I have a collection of around 2000 artifacts that are made from all different types of stone, every type of stone in my
Yeah but you can't deny that several of these are obvious Geofacts. Lol I do see a couple pieces actually show some promise and I'd probably take home and look at them. But the rest of them are nothin lol
Of course, some stones will look like an artifact but may not be, I won't argue that at all.. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that mainstream archeology has been proven to be all wrong..
So many people posting think they are experts. Some old old old artifacts are worn down. So many were from early man. Not all artifacts are beautifully chipped chert or shiny pointy obsidian. Later on, sure. Experts on any subject all think outside the box. Try it folks.P.S. Don’t rip on me please. It’s my own self learned and thoughtful opinion. Cheers.
If that's the case then every creek I have walked in my entire 40 years has been literally filled with axe heads and other random ancient stone tools. It's a fact the natives learned how to shape the stones by observing how the river does it naturally. Only when you see things the river couldn't naturally do can you really be sure that whatever you found was actually made by a person. I did not see that in any of these pieces. I'm not saying they were not made by someone. What I am saying is with what we have to look at I couldn't say that I see anything that the river or creek couldn't have done by itself.
William Brandon Davis I can appreciate your opinion in part. But, your "fact" on natives learning how to shape rocks by watching the river do it is certainly questionable. In my 50 years of living and my 20 years of studying and collecting; not one time have I heard anyone suggest this theory. Not one professor; no avid collectors; haven't seen that in any books either. I guess anything is possible but in terms of debating, I don't think that's a very strong point; in my opinion. I'm always interested in figuring out why people in the field of artifacts and fossils are adamant that their knowledge is the law. I'm not picking on you; this is just a side note. Something I've experienced time and time again. It's just odd to me is all. Again, just a side note.
They are indeed historic aged artifacts. I’ve found them myself. Not only made of stone, but made from chert, pottery, bone, glass, and iron. Checkmate. Go do some research pal. You’re only familiar with the ancient artifacts.
Hi sir my name is Shawn I have a bunch of Indian tools and rock carvings also and I'm just learning I'm very interested in old stuff always have. I got some cool stuff I like to show you if you could get back to me be very thankful I love that my area has alot of this ancient old stuff. Sometimes I think that there were started than alot of ppl nowadays lol. But please if you get time get a hold of me mean alot and you really know your stuff watched all your videos.
@@tallygator2436 Tools made using that method have divots and grooves strategically placed to allow the sinew to wrap around the stone in a manner that prevents the head of the tool from slipping off the handle when you swing the tool. Try strapping any of those stones to a handle and see how well that tool works, the heads will fall right off because there are no shoulders to keep the sinew from sliding off the angled shape of the alleged stone tool.
@@williambrandondavis6897 could you give me your opinion on a few of my finds? I agree with you 100%. And believe most axes were hand held, but I finally found something different, something unique.
Thanks Atlas here. I recently picked up a couple Points ,both ancient and I started seeing lots of faces on lots of rocks Now I'm sitting on a ton of this stuff.Whats my next move.Thanks again.you are only contact so far
These are natural sandstones smoothed out by water & notches come about by other rocks hitting it as it tumbled in the water maybe you should research more
not slate, slate is also not volcanic, not a tool of any kind on this table. this is what we professional Archaeologists call geofacts. nice try and it is cool you have a passion but you have nothing here made, modified, or used by people.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Professional? Wow you've never set foot in a museum? Dude I've been on several digs in Arizona/Utah where plenty of those same examples have been found. You are a damn liar! 😂😂😂😂
@@FarginIceholeful I stand behind my statement, THERE'S NO ARTIFACTS OF ANY KIND. Slate tools exist but these ain't them. You are the liar. 99% of archaeology doesn't happen in museums 😂. You're a fool.
@@FarginIceholeful I replied to your stupid remark but it vanished. Yes, archaeology is all about the museum. And basalt and slate are the same thing. I'm sorry I doubted your discerning eye. These artifacts are probably worth millions of dollars. Handle them with care and watch out for Nazis.
@@Jason1975ism Yeah it sounds like you know absolutely nothing. I'm not even an archeologist and I can tell these are tools. If they are just "rocks", then tell me how I have several of these that are EXACT copies of the same "rock".
@@FarginIceholeful okay fine, put them on a website for sale and sell just 1, for any price. I'll wait. Go ahead. Or take them to your local museum and get another opinion. Or better yet, find a local arrowhead collector and see what they offer. These aren't man made tools. You can get snarky all you want and I'll still be right. If they were artifacts I would be glad to identify them for free. I would spend time explaining everything about them. But they're not artifacts. I'm not going to humor anyone and get their hopes up. These are leaverites and geofacts. Pseudo morphs. Plain semi angular river rocks.
I just figured it out. They're rock wedges to be placed in between already cracked rocks to brake them off, open, or to carve. You place one in between then use a pounder to pound it. It's like putting wooden pieces in between a car door to keep pride open. Also used to create images on walls and mountains. You can also place them under bigger rocks for transportation as to roll over.
Your spot on about them being used as all purpose tools. People want to subscribe only one use all to often when in fact they were swiss army knives for lack of a better term.
Very controversial claim. They tell you to read the books about flint tools and how they are made. Did they watch the video? Number 1, these tools are NOT flint. Number 2, they are not found in situ because who wants to carry 100 lbs of rocks everywhere they go. Number 3, they are uninformed because there are no books on these, what I call blunt stone tools( to distinguish them from ground stone tools. ). Number 4, I will write the book and then the scientists will be able to run scientific tests to prove or disprove it; after which everyone who doubted you will be honor-bound to recant. But until then, these are no more than geofacts ( I like to call geofacts "naturals", because I had to call them something. There are naturals that follow these paradigms. Sometimes. I find mine in parking lots, my own front yards, vacant lots, etc. The key would be if they cannot be found in, for instance, Europe or Australia or northern Alaska. How many do you have and what states are they from? Just curious.
@@kennethcochran1339 neither of you are correct. These are historic aged native artifacts. The last tools they made. You’re only familiar with the ancient tools. Not these. I can prove it. Show me a hard stone tool that dates from the year 1550. Or 1600. You can’t.
Good stuff, brother. I live in NC Illinois, and have found these same tools myself in corn fields. They’re; in my opinion, wood harvesting tools. I’ve not only found them in hard stone, but made of chert, pottery, iron, and glass. So I know for sure the ones I’m finding are historic in age. Not ancient. ✌️
I've been collecting artifacts since I was a kid-in Florida, Massachusettes and California. I know what to look for. I hate to break it to you but NONE of the rocks pictured look like they have been worked. The tell tale signs are not there. Check out some museums to see what you are looking for.
I've been collecting rocks from N. California going on 20 years now and I've found some perfect and polished pieces and I've found some that to an untrained eye WOULD look like ordinary river rock. Look for the diamond in the rough.
@Ryan Ross Absolutely, same over here as well. Most tools, plummets and charmstones ( God I hate that name but grooved rocks some say net weights etc ) are found in rice fields in very black dirt, almost a clay, due to it being a giant swamp/river drain. Before that it was an inland sea ( Sacramento valley-butte sink ). The really nice pieces are usually attributed to burials, and the rougher pieces to hunting and fishing locations. Although different time periods are also a factor.
Hi William, thanks for the video, I enjoyed it. I have a few stones I found in my creek recently and was wondering if they're tools. Do you know of a website where I can send photos of them to see if they are genuine tools. I know that the Cherokee did inhabit the land around this area. My grandfather was Cherokee and it would thrill me to know I have something they left behind. Thanks!
If you have a University nearby you might be able to find an Archeologist that would look at them. The stone age covers a large period of time and thousands of cultures and so archeologists have to specialize in their fields of study. It is nearly impossible to become an expert in every field of study. But some archeologists like to claim they are. Even if you are a leading expert in a certain field of study of the stone age,(and I would argue that nobody can claim to be so expert that they know all of the answers) there still are many unanswered questions and mysteries in the world of Archeology. So don't give up just because you are told that they are just stones or geofacts. Good luck.
I found many with markings being triangular carved markings and cuniform like markings as well as stick like figure carvings of men and animals. On facebook i posted few and people just were ignorant unless i posted my knapped heads
The only thing I disagree with is the characterization of some the "hafted" pieces. I'm not convinced of hafting There is no doubt as to them being artifacts dont get me wrong but mostly hand held as opposed to hafted artifacts.🤔
I know I have found a couple rocks that look just like the adze you showed. I thought they looked interesting but I never thought to consider them as ancient tools! I'm definitely keeping my eyes out closer on weird rocks now, because I do live in an area where tons of Indians lived for a long time
To all the critics, yes, a grooved & polished stone axe or finely polished celt with a sharpened bit defies argument. But in defense of this video, the fact that these stones aren't as obviously or intensively worked doesn't necessarily mean they weren't used, or picked up by an Indian &used as is,or until he found time to finish them. Some do,in my opinion show signs of human alteration, those that are less conclusive would still serve the purpose of hand axes or breaking bone to extract marrow.. If they came from a known village or campsite, this would assist in tipping the scales in their favor.
Your collection of ancient artifacts in this video are impressively "all geometric with faces & edges." An inexperienced or uninterested person would believe that they're "just rocks," but what they don't know or realize is that these magnificent carved, ground, & shaped rocks were specifically formed that way for a variety of purposes, like cutting...hammering...starting fires...cooking...hunting...etc. Also, these unique ancient tools are usually found in common places where other types of relics or evidence can be found, usually around or close to natural bodies of water, ...like rivers, lakes, and ponds. Furthermore, many of these artifacts are "'incomplete, broken, or worn out" because of their age, their prior usage, or for other natural reasons, ...like erosion. Finally, not all ancient tools were just "arrowheads or weapons," either. Different tools had different functions or purposes, just like today's modern tools do. ⚙️🔧⛏️
We have a saying that we say in the artifact collecting community. If you have to defend it don't own it! They should speak for themselves just looking at them. This rule also is used for any type of a collectible Hobby
Jacob Bradenbaugh why do you have to be so mean dude? Some of them could be rocks. Some are old and weathered fragments. I’ve been studying and hunting artifacts for the better part of 30years. After a while, things become unmistakable to your eye. Now, I won’t say whether this guy has something or not because i prefer it to be in my hands but i will say, old old weathered pieces are abundant and most people would not recognize it at all. Unless you know, ya don’t really know. Ya know?
People assume all Native American artifacts have to look like arrowheads & have points, which they don't. You definitely have a few nice tool artifacts!
1st example could be an FCR type of modification (fire cracked rock) A close example showing similar features can be seen at 07:05 of this blacksmith forge building video: ua-cam.com/video/m-R6iY-mY-Y/v-deo.html Percussion, pecking, and grinding are not the only methods of purposeful alteration and reduction.
I am in the UP right now and I found a cool stone I think might be an artifact. Slate I think and found at the Patoga campgrounds that was the permanent meeting place for Ojibway tribes. I would love to show you to get your opinion. Please reach out if you know a way I can do so if you are interested in seeing it. It is roundind and slightly flat on one of the ends. Two little notches across from each other on side. Front side is totaly rounded and smooth and the back side is chipped two sort of triangular shapes diagnal from each other and the two other spaces smooth. Or if you know a place I can have it looked at? University?
All of these appear to be natural. Hard stone artifacts are a real thing, but it doesn’t appear there are any in this collection. Pecking and grinding do not look like that. Keep looking!
For god sakes, finally someone who agrees lolol I have some nice hard stone and pecked/ground stuff. But I see only 1 or 2 pieces here that I would even bother taking home to examine further lol a lot look natural
I found a stone,many years ago that the Museum of Natural History , in Mexico City , also had on display as a Tool from “ Cave “ Man Era . although my stone and the Museum’s Stone was an Elongated Egg shape , they both look the same as your stones tools . This seems Fishy to me . Someone is Lying about the Time Frame , All our History Seems to be a Lie . But I thank you for your time and your sharing this with us all .
Sorry people, these are no artifacts. Some individuals like this person run off of hope and best wishes of finding real artifacts. I would like to see this person take these artifacts to a show and get expert opinions. Just uses great terms like Grinding, uniface, pecking... worked... none of these stones.. rocks.. have any of that. No matter how many times you tell these people, they are hell bent on false hopes.. just sad to see them try to educate the public.
Alright, if these are NOT artifacts then what DID the ancient people use for tools to make what they needed to survive. Come on. Show us what they used.
not trying to be mean but do some research I've been hunting arrowheads for a long time and tools of the Native Americans and these are not Native American artifacts find Camp Rocks find fire Stones find flint chips then find your points hi Rich tops feeder Creek's feeding the main creeks then feeding the rivers like I said Camp Rocks Flint chips points
Well that's because your a ARROW hunter. These tools styles where used by paleoIndians who did not shot arrows. But used spears and pecked and ground. Start to read more. Instead of replaying your algorithmic idiocracy.
@@jasonbuckman7298 His comment says “and tools of the Native Americans”. Did you miss that? You were typing so fast to try to prove your “intelligence” and defend falsehood that you didn’t even comprehend what the original comment says
If I sent you a picture of something that’s been in my family for generations and I just inherited… but those ahead of me no longer remember which tribe it comes from… could you help me possibly identify it? My family (bio) is plains Indian. However, the man that this came from married into the family generations ago. Those who should be able to remember are too old to remember which tribe or what area of the USA his people came. I’d love to know more about this piece. If you’d look & not be able to help, I’d still appreciate your help and time.
Try to find a facebook group or reddit page and ask there. You'll probably have better luck than asking on youtube. I hope you find someone to share the knowledge you seek.
Those look like the Paleo indian artifacts that have been found in Texas, and other sites. I, too, have found many of this same shape. Looking with magnifier/'scope, marks made by Man can be seen.
@@josefizquierdo6139 A couple of them may have been. Some of them are just rocks. Like the first one he shows. Looks just like a common piece of shale. It naturally breaks off making shapes just like that. They start off with sharp jagged edges. Then after being subject to water and tumbling around they get rounded and smooth. I could go outside right now and find several rocks similar to the ones he showed. I could even find them in places where it would be evident that tfty were natural.
You know how much information about ancient civilizations is covered up? Especially since the us government would have to give back all the Indian land if they could prove that it was theirs?
That first stone could have been altered by fire on purpose and would be called an FCR. From one football sized rock I now have 5 slabs very similar to those sitting on a barrel next to my fire pit. It is amazing how the fractures "look" like some one whacked it, but they are only scars from the intense heat fracturing...as to frost or freezing being the cause, I have seen greywacke split into multi-planes along the Mississippi, but not in that pattern, but I do not know Utah winter's or lithics either. The example @09:43 that looks very similar to what I use to shape and polish rib bone into knives or fish points, I found that 1/8th inch hinge helps give me control to shape the rib not only consistently, but quickly before I remove too much material and it separates.
I have hundreds of the exact tool and I can find fifty or sixty within thirty minutes. People think unless it's not arrowhead or a long sexy spear, it's not legit. I've found a tomahawk with a raised blade twirled around it, if you can imagine such, I've found knives, picks, hammers, axe heads etc etc...oh and lastly, on my last pick, I found a white sandstone with rusted metal around it. We're trying to find out if leather could have turned to such.
Love your videos! I know you are on a journey to learn more about what you have. With regards to what the tools are made from it looks like the majority are basault. (Slate has cleavage planes that make it difficult to nap.) The adze tools you mention with the pitting marks look like they are from Vesicular Basalt- formed as magma reaches the surface, as pressure decreases dissolved gasses are able to come out of the solution, forming gas bubbles.
You should take those to an artifact show and let the people who have handled true artifacts evaluate them. Once you have seen and handled actual human made artifacts, you will never think that any of those rocks have been modified by humans.
When they are found in a mound of indian artifacts that lends credibility to the hypothesis that yes they were probably useful. You can find many sticks .... but if it has an arrowhead stuck to it yes it could be coincidence but the arrowhead lends credibility to the scenario
Please learn what actual artifacts are. These are rocks. It is very frustrating to find so much misinformation on the net in regards to Native American artifacts, especially the fool with the portable rock "art" site. A person tries to search for images of actual rock art and Mr. Portable Rock "Art's" images dominate the images. STOP the miseducation.
+skunkape2 There are thousands of different ancient cultures being studied. One culture being studied is broken down into many specific studies within that culture. One archeologist will specialize in one of those specific studies for his or her lifetime. The Civil War, for example, is broken down into battles. One battle will be broken down into separate studies like artillery, calvary, infantry, North and South. There are archeologists that are experts in artillery but not in calvary etc... Just because you are an expert in Native American arrowheads and other common Native American artifacts dose not mean other artifacts do not exist. To jump so quickly to conclusions, not only to conclude by watching a video that they are just rocks, but also to assume that someone has put as little thought and study into it as you do.
+skunkape2 LoL I lay stone like these on walls daily, must say there are tons of natural stone axeheads out there. I guess it's up to the person to believe what they want to believe.
I think that funny to hear a Mason say that! they're was an old man with a HUGE collection of Indian Grind stones, "big dished out rocks, for grinding corn, wheat nuts" this old man had a stone mason build him a chimney out of them! to bad when he came home the stone mason faced all the dished stones inwards!! had to tear down the whole chimney & start again! the mason was just told they were Indian grind stones haha
It seems many archaeologists and laymen are fixated with arrowheads and knapped tools because they are pretty and sexy. What tools did early man make? First it depends what kind of rocks people had locally to work with. Second --many archaelogists are now saying man was in north America earlier than we realized--some say man has been here 20,000 years or more. Clovis culture is about 11,500BCE.(13,000 years ago). Also humans had many tasks beside just hunting with points and needed many tools to do them and those tools have not gotten as much attention as sexy points. Also if a native man or woman found a rock that looked like it would be a good tool it might not need much work to make it useful. Also some archaelogists ahve noted the more refined tools are not found as much east of the Appalachian mountains so there was obiously some people here before clovis man got here. Context matters, local material matters and rock showing some work matters. So these tools in the video should not be dismissed out of hand.
I agree, I think it's apparently a grinding stone tool used for mashing grains like corn possibly...? I'm just trying to search for a method for identifying native American limestone tools... I guess they were crafting edged blades used for hunting or battle. Along with tools for preparation in butchering animals or harvested agricultural resources. I know porus stone splits and weather's naturally though so I guess they mean there needs to be a clear sign of either symmetrical design or weathering from deliberate uses that purposefully align with each tools intended uses...?
are you serious 😄 a couple people on here told you real nice like, you have nothing but regular rocks, no Prehistoric Stone Tools, just rocks bro, have you ever read any books? are you just bummed, you can't find any real one's? you need to educate yourself some, apparently you haven't at all, not trying to be mean, just serious, then some of the other people on here believe you & from your experience. experience at what? thinking regular rocks are stone age tools, come on bro, go watch some real Artifact finding
The first example he is showing could very well be altered, that is EXACTLY the fracture scarring on certain FCR's which were tossed un-roasted into a thick layer of very hot coals. Depending on the internal grain structure, that edge will score around an antler for breaking accurately with no skipping and do it quickly...or on a shaft, two swipes to make clean point setting scores on a shaft. What is nice, is that just one football shaped rock will plane fracture into about 5 or 6 pieces like that one in Will's hand.
Nomadic Adventures all right all u think u know about artifacts well I'm going to put my collection out there for every one to see the more than 3 theory if u find more than 3 that are all most identical well Mother Nature doesn't mass produce artifacts so all u think u no it all I'm going to blow your minds with what my grandpa picked up along the gravel bars on the Columbia river he told me someday and I'd no when the time was right to show his collection and after reading a bunch of u think u know what's what we'll I'm going to school all of u because I know more about stone artifacts than all of u that think u know what your talking about !!! So get ready I'm going to start posting pictures and they were all surface found my grandpa never dug up any thing so get ready cause I'm going to blow your minds
Nomadic, here is a fairly close FCR example to Will's piece from a blacksmith forge building video I just watched, ua-cam.com/video/m-R6iY-mY-Y/v-deo.html Skip to 07:05 and I hope you can see and embrace there are other types of modification other than just our modern paradigm of percussion, pecking, and grinding. Obviously, each type of stone has it's own thermal fracture habit, and for me it has been a blast figuring out what works and what is repeatable. Caution though if you give it a go, many stones will pop violently and having kids around the campfire while doing this is dangerous. (I have had a BB size fragment pop off and embed into my forearm...40 years later and the scar is still there)
Brooksy and his cronie Richardsrockhouse do this for one reason and one reason only MONEY. Hell they have price tags on before they even get them in the house. Arrowheads are the most common artifact there are. With out the "DOPE" how do you study a point for hours."his words" ask the Great Spirit for more education Brooksy that is what you need. Shira might have the uses wrong but who really knows, NOBODY. and surely not Mike Brooks.
Very nice.
Some people cant see the tool marks..and lack any imagination whatsoever.
I am finding similar tools . Always wondering if they are authentic or natural stones ?
I am also finding stones that have obvious rubbing and grove marks in them , without hafting marks on them .
Thank you for sharing. I wish there was more information about these more "crude" artifacts. Youve inspirwd me to start my own channel and document mine.
The comments is what kept me here
SO WHAT I'VE NOTICED is that on like all the videos or forums i have found with great artifacts there's ALWAYS A BUNCH OF TROLLS commenting that what we're looking at are not artifacts and worth nothing. Never seen any other topic that is shit on as much! Great work and thank you. The info is greatly appreciated.
Val Loudfoot people only seem to be interested in spear points. half these "arrow head hunters" don't even realize they're hunting knives mostly.
Idiot!
These arent artifacts. This guy william belongs in a loony tune asylum.
Sorry but these "rocks" aren't worth trolling. Glue residue after 1000's years? Unbelievable. SMDH
@@jaypercival431 I have several hammer stones and abraders with resin and sand, like sandpaper on them. But they are only about 750-1,200 years old.
Tell me, where abouts do you live? I live in southern Utah where broken points and stone tools litter the ground and there are ruins and petroglyph, every 500 feet.
I live in Indiana and have several Springs on my property and everytime I dig a posthole I find something, keeping them for my grandchildren.
I grew up in Lake County , Indiana . Near the Kankakee . It's near to Lowell Indiana . West Creek was my best place to go . Now all the fields are built on my old best places . 2 Tomahawk , many spear tips , a few knives , and many scrapers ! I'd go fishing , hunting , and dirt biking . ...then spend the whole day looking for arrow heading . Have you ever heard of the Great Marsh ? Great times in the early 70 ' s . Peace , from Cass County MICHIGAN , USA ! Maranatha !
Amazing-many of the "non descript" non typical artifacts I find in west Michigan sites look identical to the ones you found in Idaho. And the sites in Michigan are known occupied sites. I have learned a lot from this channel as I use to only look for items made with chert/flint/obsidian and quartz. Great vids. Thank you for sharing!
My wife and I have been arrow head hunting . We have many beautiful artifacts ! Peace , from Cass County MICHIGAN , USA ! Maranatha !
You've identified some pieces I have but could not figure its use. The adz is an example.
Well done! Thanks!
Same, I have several of that shape.
Some people only recognise knapped tools, but don't realise people didn't always have that skill, they made crude tools to get them by, simple as that. Beautiful tools came along much later. Oldowan tools look like natural breakage, but because they were found by "specialist, archeologist" they are amazing tools. We know more than these people think we do. Well done for finding these and keep ot up
B.s. you cannot use a hardstone tool such as a hammer or a mano or an axe without either altering the stones surface to shape the tool or there has to be some evidence of wear use. You cannot hit a stone or use a stone against something without there being some evidence left behind. What you just said is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You need to educate yourself and not blow smoke up peoples arses
In the United States that isn’t true. From the earliest evidence of man in North America we get some of the most refined tools ever made (Clovis, Folsom, dalton, Cumberland etc.) even some of the theorized pre-Clovis points they are still refined bifaces.
Some archaeologists are saying man has been in America for 20,000 years-pre-clovis. Also as far as nice refined tools-- not as much East of the Appalachian mountains @@thomash4950
Nothing but funky shaped rocks
He’s obviously trying to and in fact has convinced himself these were native
Everything on this table is a (jar) just a rock
They are borderline retarded with the downtalk. There are millions identical in museums nation and WORLDWIDE...so go find your gay CLOVIS POINTS.
Thinks for sharing your collection I found a stone axe in Florida 400 miles away
I'm trying to get into artifact collecting...but 90% of the time, I'm looking at a strange rock, holding it and trying to envision it's use, but I'm always questioning if it's natural. How do you know?
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@@rodneygreenwaymusic they don't know and I feel this video is inappropriate because of the misinformation. These aren't artifacts. When you find a tool you'll know it immediately. They are unambiguous. Even a plain rock that's used to shape other tools has distinct pock marks and wear that is indicative and impossible to mistake for natural erosion. When you find a flint or hard stone tool you'll instantly get goosebumps.
I found something just like the ax at 4:44 but mine is more polished it seems. I thought it was an axe when I found it then talked myself out of it. When you pulled that one out I gasped lol
Yeah, I think I agree with your analysis.... I like to look around for old artifacts sometimes when I'm exploring outdoors, and I think I might have come across am artifact at a glance quite often. I always end up disregarding them as just old rocks shaped by the erosion of time in the end....
I've seen a pair of vice grips used as a hammer.
Beautiful pieces! Thanks for sharing!
The first one you showed is a bear head! Pretty cool!
Can you see the pictorial images in some of you artifacts?I've been collecting so many interesting pieces in oregon just inland of the coast from Lincoln city to eugene some Salem I lived upper part of Idaho and believe I found pre ice age artifacts crazy !
Thank you for all of this!!
great video, some people think that all artifacts are beautiful works of art and always made from flint or quartz , chert , jasper. fact is life was not easy especially if they lived in a region where those types stone did not exist.. they used whatever they could find and would make tools and point out of and they would do this very quickly and would make many of them. they can look like just natural stone to the uninformed, uneducated and they closed minded people that think all indians were proud stone smiths that walk the planet with their heads high and carried an arsenal of perfectly made Flint arrowheads and tools.. there were some amazing craftsman no doubt but also there were people on the verge of starvation and lived as savages.. I have a collection of around 2000 artifacts that are made from all different types of stone, every type of stone in my
Yeah but you can't deny that several of these are obvious Geofacts. Lol
I do see a couple pieces actually show some promise and I'd probably take home and look at them. But the rest of them are nothin lol
Of course, some stones will look like an artifact but may not be, I won't argue that at all.. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that mainstream archeology has been proven to be all wrong..
So many people posting think they are experts. Some old old old artifacts are worn down. So many were from early man. Not all artifacts are beautifully chipped chert or shiny pointy obsidian. Later on, sure. Experts on any subject all think outside the box. Try it folks.P.S. Don’t rip on me please. It’s my own self learned and thoughtful opinion. Cheers.
If that's the case then every creek I have walked in my entire 40 years has been literally filled with axe heads and other random ancient stone tools. It's a fact the natives learned how to shape the stones by observing how the river does it naturally. Only when you see things the river couldn't naturally do can you really be sure that whatever you found was actually made by a person. I did not see that in any of these pieces. I'm not saying they were not made by someone. What I am saying is with what we have to look at I couldn't say that I see anything that the river or creek couldn't have done by itself.
William Brandon Davis I can appreciate your opinion in part. But, your "fact" on natives learning how to shape rocks by watching the river do it is certainly questionable. In my 50 years of living and my 20 years of studying and collecting; not one time have I heard anyone suggest this theory. Not one professor; no avid collectors; haven't seen that in any books either. I guess anything is possible but in terms of debating, I don't think that's a very strong point; in my opinion. I'm always interested in figuring out why people in the field of artifacts and fossils are adamant that their knowledge is the law. I'm not picking on you; this is just a side note. Something I've experienced time and time again. It's just odd to me is all. Again, just a side note.
I sure wish you would make more videos. Ty for all your information and inspiration.
Very... Good.. Video and information
Lovely video so details and meticulously
Sorry William but you have no artifacts there.
They are indeed historic aged artifacts. I’ve found them myself. Not only made of stone, but made from chert, pottery, bone, glass, and iron. Checkmate. Go do some research pal. You’re only familiar with the ancient artifacts.
He has a great imagination 😅😅😅
@@Ancientillinoisyou must be high 😂😂😂
Its amazing how many rocks you think are artifacts. Do you hear voices in your head as well?
Good job great artifacts
Thanks for your time and showing us! It is appreciated!
Thanks for this post, William. Very informative, as well as gives us good, clear images of different tools to look for.
Hi sir my name is Shawn I have a bunch of Indian tools and rock carvings also and I'm just learning I'm very interested in old stuff always have. I got some cool stuff I like to show you if you could get back to me be very thankful I love that my area has alot of this ancient old stuff. Sometimes I think that there were started than alot of ppl nowadays lol. But please if you get time get a hold of me mean alot and you really know your stuff watched all your videos.
Thank you William, we have found a few of those, and probably threw many pieces back down frown😞👀
Just a bunch of rocks, I didn't see any flaking marks on any of them... jmo
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harley rider66 they where made by peck and grinding method. So no flaking
@@tallygator2436 Tools made using that method have divots and grooves strategically placed to allow the sinew to wrap around the stone in a manner that prevents the head of the tool from slipping off the handle when you swing the tool. Try strapping any of those stones to a handle and see how well that tool works, the heads will fall right off because there are no shoulders to keep the sinew from sliding off the angled shape of the alleged stone tool.
@@williambrandondavis6897 could you give me your opinion on a few of my finds? I agree with you 100%. And believe most axes were hand held, but I finally found something different, something unique.
Thanks
Atlas here. I recently picked up a couple Points ,both ancient and I started seeing lots of faces on lots of rocks
Now I'm sitting on a ton of this stuff.Whats my next move.Thanks again.you are only contact so far
I have 2 stones that might be tools.... would you be able to know what they are or aren’t
These are natural sandstones smoothed out by water & notches come about by other rocks hitting it as it tumbled in the water maybe you should research more
This video is false. These are naturally fractured/weathered/eroded stones.
not slate, slate is also not volcanic, not a tool of any kind on this table. this is what we professional Archaeologists call geofacts. nice try and it is cool you have a passion but you have nothing here made, modified, or used by people.
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Professional? Wow you've never set foot in a museum? Dude I've been on several digs in Arizona/Utah where plenty of those same examples have been found. You are a damn liar! 😂😂😂😂
@@FarginIceholeful I stand behind my statement, THERE'S NO ARTIFACTS OF ANY KIND. Slate tools exist but these ain't them. You are the liar. 99% of archaeology doesn't happen in museums 😂. You're a fool.
@@FarginIceholeful I replied to your stupid remark but it vanished. Yes, archaeology is all about the museum. And basalt and slate are the same thing. I'm sorry I doubted your discerning eye. These artifacts are probably worth millions of dollars. Handle them with care and watch out for Nazis.
@@Jason1975ism Yeah it sounds like you know absolutely nothing. I'm not even an archeologist and I can tell these are tools. If they are just "rocks", then tell me how I have several of these that are EXACT copies of the same "rock".
@@FarginIceholeful okay fine, put them on a website for sale and sell just 1, for any price. I'll wait. Go ahead. Or take them to your local museum and get another opinion. Or better yet, find a local arrowhead collector and see what they offer. These aren't man made tools. You can get snarky all you want and I'll still be right. If they were artifacts I would be glad to identify them for free. I would spend time explaining everything about them. But they're not artifacts. I'm not going to humor anyone and get their hopes up. These are leaverites and geofacts. Pseudo morphs. Plain semi angular river rocks.
I just figured it out. They're rock wedges to be placed in between already cracked rocks to brake them off, open, or to carve. You place one in between then use a pounder to pound it. It's like putting wooden pieces in between a car door to keep pride open. Also used to create images on walls and mountains. You can also place them under bigger rocks for transportation as to roll over.
Son, all you have is sex stones, we call them f---ing rocks.
They’re historic aged artifacts. Post European contact.
Your spot on about them being used as all purpose tools. People want to subscribe only one use all to often when in fact they were swiss army knives for lack of a better term.
Very controversial claim. They tell you to read the books about flint tools and how they are made. Did they watch the video? Number 1, these tools are NOT flint. Number 2, they are not found in situ because who wants to carry 100 lbs of rocks everywhere they go. Number 3, they are uninformed because there are no books on these, what I call blunt stone tools( to distinguish them from ground stone tools. ). Number 4, I will write the book and then the scientists will be able to run scientific tests to prove or disprove it; after which everyone who doubted you will be honor-bound to recant.
But until then, these are no more than geofacts ( I like to call geofacts "naturals", because I had to call them something. There are naturals that follow these paradigms. Sometimes.
I find mine in parking lots, my own front yards, vacant lots, etc.
The key would be if they cannot be found in, for instance, Europe or Australia or northern Alaska.
How many do you have and what states are they from? Just curious.
when native Americans done something, they done it RIGHT!...I think them are just earth formed rocks Sir
official.lil.hippy yeah, all native Americans made super refined tools. They never did anything half assed. They were a perfect people. Clown.
you are right
@@johnnyhighwoods1780 You need to do the research. Good God you Fucking Prick!
@@kennethcochran1339 neither of you are correct. These are historic aged native artifacts. The last tools they made. You’re only familiar with the ancient tools. Not these.
I can prove it. Show me a hard stone tool that dates from the year 1550. Or 1600. You can’t.
Good stuff, brother.
I live in NC Illinois, and have found these same tools myself in corn fields. They’re; in my opinion, wood harvesting tools. I’ve not only found them in hard stone, but made of chert, pottery, iron, and glass. So I know for sure the ones I’m finding are historic in age. Not ancient. ✌️
I've been collecting artifacts since I was a kid-in Florida, Massachusettes and California. I know what to look for. I hate to break it to you but NONE of the rocks pictured look like they have been worked. The tell tale signs are not there. Check out some museums to see what you are looking for.
what part of CA?
brightmanonfire you are a fucking idiot.
I've been collecting rocks from N. California going on 20 years now and I've found some perfect and polished pieces and I've found some that to an untrained eye WOULD look like ordinary river rock. Look for the diamond in the rough.
@athena icaria thank you!
@Ryan Ross Absolutely, same over here as well. Most tools, plummets and charmstones ( God I hate that name but grooved rocks some say net weights etc ) are found in rice fields in very black dirt, almost a clay, due to it being a giant swamp/river drain.
Before that it was an inland sea ( Sacramento valley-butte sink ). The really nice pieces are usually attributed to burials, and the rougher pieces to hunting and fishing locations. Although different time periods are also a factor.
Hi William, thanks for the video, I enjoyed it. I have a few stones I found in my creek recently and was wondering if they're tools. Do you know of a website where I can send photos of them to see if they are genuine tools. I know that the Cherokee did inhabit the land around this area. My grandfather was Cherokee and it would thrill me to know I have something they left behind. Thanks!
If you have a University nearby you might be able to find an Archeologist that would look at them. The stone age covers a large period of time and thousands of cultures and so archeologists have to specialize in their fields of study. It is nearly impossible to become an expert in every field of study. But some archeologists like to claim they are. Even if you are a leading expert in a certain field of study of the stone age,(and I would argue that nobody can claim to be so expert that they know all of the answers) there still are many unanswered questions and mysteries in the world of Archeology. So don't give up just because you are told that they are just stones or geofacts. Good luck.
I found many with markings being triangular carved markings and cuniform like markings as well as stick like figure carvings of men and animals. On facebook i posted few and people just were ignorant unless i posted my knapped heads
What is "volcanic slate". Believe what you want to believe but keep it to yourself.
Can you tell me where I can get how much is paid for artifacts and effigies ?
The only thing I disagree with is the characterization of some the "hafted" pieces. I'm not convinced of hafting
There is no doubt as to them being artifacts dont get me wrong but mostly hand held as opposed to hafted artifacts.🤔
what does hafted even mean? aren't there more than one ways to reach the same result?
I know I have found a couple rocks that look just like the adze you showed. I thought they looked interesting but I never thought to consider them as ancient tools! I'm definitely keeping my eyes out closer on weird rocks now, because I do live in an area where tons of Indians lived for a long time
To all the critics, yes, a grooved & polished stone axe or finely polished celt with a sharpened bit defies argument. But in defense of this video, the fact that these stones aren't as obviously or intensively worked doesn't necessarily mean they weren't used, or picked up by an Indian &used as is,or until he found time to finish them. Some do,in my opinion show signs of human alteration, those that are less conclusive would still serve the purpose of hand axes or breaking bone to extract marrow.. If they came from a known village or campsite, this would assist in tipping the scales in their favor.
Nice
Slate is a metamorphosed sedimentary rock, not volcanic (igneous).
What's not difficult?
I'm so glad these are "just rocks" as per comments ..thus we can collect to our hearts content and not disturb artifacts right 😉
Your collection of ancient artifacts in this video are impressively "all geometric with faces & edges." An inexperienced or uninterested person would believe that they're "just rocks," but what they don't know or realize is that these magnificent carved, ground, & shaped rocks were specifically formed that way for a variety of purposes, like cutting...hammering...starting fires...cooking...hunting...etc. Also, these unique ancient tools are usually found in common places where other types of relics or evidence can be found, usually around or close to natural bodies of water, ...like rivers, lakes, and ponds. Furthermore, many of these artifacts are "'incomplete, broken, or worn out" because of their age, their prior usage, or for other natural reasons, ...like erosion. Finally, not all ancient tools were just "arrowheads or weapons," either. Different tools had different functions or purposes, just like today's modern tools do. ⚙️🔧⛏️
There is no indication of and work by man on these tho
Wrong. Every rock he has are Natural formations.
We have a saying that we say in the artifact collecting community. If you have to defend it don't own it! They should speak for themselves just looking at them. This rule also is used for any type of a collectible Hobby
Your joking right?
That is nothing but a rock you idiot
This bitch is a fucking idiot
Jacob Bradenbaugh why do you have to be so mean dude? Some of them could be rocks. Some are old and weathered fragments. I’ve been studying and hunting artifacts for the better part of 30years. After a while, things become unmistakable to your eye. Now, I won’t say whether this guy has something or not because i prefer it to be in my hands but i will say, old old weathered pieces are abundant and most people would not recognize it at all. Unless you know, ya don’t really know. Ya know?
@@LaurensMuse77 are you joking?????? Not one artifact in this video. Your just as dumb as the guy in the video
Without holding in your hand I would say your the idiot Indians where very resourceful and would use anything they could to get a particular job done
People assume all Native American artifacts have to look like arrowheads & have points, which they don't. You definitely have a few nice tool artifacts!
@Belinda Belinda Baits Bray cool that’s not what he said
Hey that's not archaeology
Where is artifacts. All i see is plain ole run of the mill naturally formed ROCKS. Quit misleading beginning collector/hunters.
Very good
1st example could be an FCR type of modification (fire cracked rock) A close example showing similar features can be seen at 07:05 of this blacksmith forge building video: ua-cam.com/video/m-R6iY-mY-Y/v-deo.html Percussion, pecking, and grinding are not the only methods of purposeful alteration and reduction.
I am in the UP right now and I found a cool stone I think might be an artifact. Slate I think and found at the Patoga campgrounds that was the permanent meeting place for Ojibway tribes. I would love to show you to get your opinion. Please reach out if you know a way I can do so if you are interested in seeing it. It is roundind and slightly flat on one of the ends. Two little notches across from each other on side. Front side is totaly rounded and smooth and the back side is chipped two sort of triangular shapes diagnal from each other and the two other spaces smooth. Or if you know a place I can have it looked at? University?
You need help
All of these appear to be natural. Hard stone artifacts are a real thing, but it doesn’t appear there are any in this collection. Pecking and grinding do not look like that. Keep looking!
For god sakes, finally someone who agrees lolol
I have some nice hard stone and pecked/ground stuff.
But I see only 1 or 2 pieces here that I would even bother taking home to examine further lol a lot look natural
These are actually Leaverites and Ohyeahrites.
Very interesting ,thanks for the great video sir. Cheers from Canada
I found a stone,many years ago that the Museum of Natural History , in Mexico City , also had on display as a Tool from “ Cave “ Man Era . although my stone and the Museum’s Stone was an Elongated Egg shape , they both look the same as your stones tools . This seems Fishy to me .
Someone is Lying about the Time Frame , All our History Seems to be a Lie .
But I thank you for your time and your sharing this with us all .
Wonderful
Just like every other rock in any creek. Sorry guy, not even close to the real deal.
You seem like a nice guy but you are reaching. These aren't worked.
Lovely . I'm finding tons if these in New Mexico.
Bet you do. They are just rocks there everywhere
I like your collection. I have many artifacts similar to yours. I also have some large clubs.
I think it is fun to try and understand these ancient inhabitants. Thanks for your interest.
This isn’t for real is it?
I have hundreds that I have collected, nice to see this
Denise LaFave do some research fucktard
Sorry people, these are no artifacts. Some individuals like this person run off of hope and best wishes of finding real artifacts. I would like to see this person take these artifacts to a show and get expert opinions. Just uses great terms like Grinding, uniface, pecking... worked... none of these stones.. rocks.. have any of that. No matter how many times you tell these people, they are hell bent on false hopes.. just sad to see them try to educate the public.
Alright, if these are NOT artifacts then what DID the ancient people use for tools to make what they needed to survive. Come on. Show us what they used.
@@johncox9806 You can find examples of these tools in books, research and museums. Have you ever bothered to look?
Nice. 🏹
Thanks so much
Can you please contact me? I live close to Coloma ca. And have interesting rocks.
not trying to be mean but do some research I've been hunting arrowheads for a long time and tools of the Native Americans and these are not Native American artifacts find Camp Rocks find fire Stones find flint chips then find your points hi Rich tops feeder Creek's feeding the main creeks then feeding the rivers like I said Camp Rocks Flint chips points
@athena icaria ❤❤❤
Well that's because your a ARROW hunter. These tools styles where used by paleoIndians who did not shot arrows. But used spears and pecked and ground. Start to read more. Instead of replaying your algorithmic idiocracy.
@@jasonbuckman7298 His comment says “and tools of the Native Americans”. Did you miss that? You were typing so fast to try to prove your “intelligence” and defend falsehood that you didn’t even comprehend what the original comment says
If I sent you a picture of something that’s been in my family for generations and I just inherited… but those ahead of me no longer remember which tribe it comes from… could you help me possibly identify it?
My family (bio) is plains Indian. However, the man that this came from married into the family generations ago. Those who should be able to remember are too old to remember which tribe or what area of the USA his people came.
I’d love to know more about this piece. If you’d look & not be able to help, I’d still appreciate your help and time.
Try to find a facebook group or reddit page and ask there. You'll probably have better luck than asking on youtube. I hope you find someone to share the knowledge you seek.
Those look like the Paleo indian artifacts that have been found in Texas, and other sites.
I, too, have found many of this same shape.
Looking with magnifier/'scope, marks made by Man can be seen.
I've found many of these same types of tools in the Ozarks too.
If a rock or stone catches your eyes and looks out of place. It probably is.
Those are just rocks. Nature did all the creating
They're just rocks...but carved by ancient men.
@@josefizquierdo6139 A couple of them may have been. Some of them are just rocks. Like the first one he shows. Looks just like a common piece of shale. It naturally breaks off making shapes just like that. They start off with sharp jagged edges. Then after being subject to water and tumbling around they get rounded and smooth. I could go outside right now and find several rocks similar to the ones he showed. I could even find them in places where it would be evident that tfty were natural.
Hell ive got a rock that looks just like a snickers bar. Color and all.
You know how much information about ancient civilizations is covered up? Especially since the us government would have to give back all the Indian land if they could prove that it was theirs?
Nice video but these are common creek rocks...good luck though
I found what i think is a tool. Do you have an email that I could send a few pictures to ?Thank you
Before you make educational videos, ide suggest learning the difference between worked and naturally formed rocks.
That first stone could have been altered by fire on purpose and would be called an FCR. From one football sized rock I now have 5 slabs very similar to those sitting on a barrel next to my fire pit. It is amazing how the fractures "look" like some one whacked it, but they are only scars from the intense heat fracturing...as to frost or freezing being the cause, I have seen greywacke split into multi-planes along the Mississippi, but not in that pattern, but I do not know Utah winter's or lithics either.
The example @09:43 that looks very similar to what I use to shape and polish rib bone into knives or fish points, I found that 1/8th inch hinge helps give me control to shape the rib not only consistently, but quickly before I remove too much material and it separates.
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
I have hundreds of the exact tool and I can find fifty or sixty within thirty minutes. People think unless it's not arrowhead or a long sexy spear, it's not legit. I've found a tomahawk with a raised blade twirled around it, if you can imagine such, I've found knives, picks, hammers, axe heads etc etc...oh and lastly, on my last pick, I found a white sandstone with rusted metal around it. We're trying to find out if leather could have turned to such.
My sentiments exactly. Thank you for your comment.
William Shira
You're welcome
Oh yes absolutely leather always turns to metal.
Love your videos! I know you are on a journey to learn more about what you have. With regards to what the tools are made from it looks like the majority are basault. (Slate has cleavage planes that make it difficult to nap.) The adze tools you mention with the pitting marks look like they are from Vesicular Basalt- formed as magma reaches the surface, as pressure decreases dissolved gasses are able to come out of the solution, forming gas bubbles.
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Good video.
You should take those to an artifact show and let the people who have handled true artifacts evaluate them. Once you have seen and handled actual human made artifacts, you will never think that any of those rocks have been modified by humans.
When they are found in a mound of indian artifacts that lends credibility to the hypothesis that yes they were probably useful. You can find many sticks .... but if it has an arrowhead stuck to it yes it could be coincidence but the arrowhead lends credibility to the scenario
I believe that Mr Shira has not robbed archaeological sites. That would be destructive and illegal. Professional Archaeologists should do that.
@@tunahelpa5433 lol your logic is so flawed it's ridiculous.......
Please learn what actual artifacts are. These are rocks. It is very frustrating to find so much misinformation on the net in regards to Native American artifacts, especially the fool with the portable rock "art" site. A person tries to search for images of actual rock art and Mr. Portable Rock "Art's" images dominate the images. STOP the miseducation.
+skunkape2 There are thousands of different ancient cultures being studied. One culture being studied is broken down into many specific studies within that culture. One archeologist will specialize in one of those specific studies for his or her lifetime. The Civil War, for example, is broken down into battles. One battle will be broken down into separate studies like artillery, calvary, infantry, North and South. There are archeologists that are experts in artillery but not in calvary etc... Just because you are an expert in Native American arrowheads and other common Native American artifacts dose not mean other artifacts do not exist. To jump so quickly to conclusions, not only to conclude by watching a video that they are just rocks, but also to assume that someone has put as little thought and study into it as you do.
+skunkape2 LoL I lay stone like these on walls daily, must say there are tons of natural stone axeheads out there. I guess it's up to the person to believe what they want to believe.
I think that funny to hear a Mason say that! they're was an old man with a HUGE collection of Indian Grind stones, "big dished out rocks, for grinding corn, wheat nuts" this old man had a stone mason build him a chimney out of them! to bad when he came home the stone mason faced all the dished stones inwards!! had to tear down the whole chimney & start again! the mason was just told they were Indian grind stones haha
This dude is on point. These are most likely early Anasazi pit dweller tools. 10 bucks these are from the south west.
skunkape2
Yes these are rocks, rocks that have been shaped.
Wow, tuff crowd. Im not sure what these are , man made or natural but give the guy a break.
that first piece for sure the knotch is the hafting location if anyy that is a preform for a knife blade
It seems many archaeologists and laymen are fixated with arrowheads and knapped tools because they are pretty and sexy. What tools did early man make? First it depends what kind of rocks people had locally to work with. Second --many archaelogists are now saying man was in north America earlier than we realized--some say man has been here 20,000 years or more. Clovis culture is about 11,500BCE.(13,000 years ago). Also humans had many tasks beside just hunting with points and needed many tools to do them and those tools have not gotten as much attention as sexy points. Also if a native man or woman found a rock that looked like it would be a good tool it might not need much work to make it useful. Also some archaelogists ahve noted the more refined tools are not found as much east of the Appalachian mountains so there was obiously some people here before clovis man got here. Context matters, local material matters and rock showing some work matters. So these tools in the video should not be dismissed out of hand.
The artifact at 6:38 has a clear and distinct face on it. Undeniable and certainly artificial, I don't care what anybody says to the contrary.
I agree, I think it's apparently a grinding stone tool used for mashing grains like corn possibly...? I'm just trying to search for a method for identifying native American limestone tools... I guess they were crafting edged blades used for hunting or battle. Along with tools for preparation in butchering animals or harvested agricultural resources. I know porus stone splits and weather's naturally though so I guess they mean there needs to be a clear sign of either symmetrical design or weathering from deliberate uses that purposefully align with each tools intended uses...?
thank you for your interesting video. sorry so many rude people commented.
River rocks 🪨 😅😅😅😅
Nice rock collection
right? they don't have any indication of human wear or manipulation 😂
I would say only a few couldb be something
are you serious 😄 a couple people on here told you real nice like, you have nothing but regular rocks, no Prehistoric Stone Tools, just rocks bro, have you ever read any books? are you just bummed, you can't find any real one's? you need to educate yourself some, apparently you haven't at all, not trying to be mean, just serious, then some of the other people on here believe you & from your experience. experience at what? thinking regular rocks are stone age tools, come on bro, go watch some real Artifact finding
Brooksy knows the real stuff. Shira has a box of rocks, nothing more.
The first example he is showing could very well be altered, that is EXACTLY the fracture scarring on certain FCR's which were tossed un-roasted into a thick layer of very hot coals. Depending on the internal grain structure, that edge will score around an antler for breaking accurately with no skipping and do it quickly...or on a shaft, two swipes to make clean point setting scores on a shaft. What is nice, is that just one football shaped rock will plane fracture into about 5 or 6 pieces like that one in Will's hand.
Nomadic Adventures all right all u think u know about artifacts well I'm going to put my collection out there for every one to see the more than 3 theory if u find more than 3 that are all most identical well Mother Nature doesn't mass produce artifacts so all u think u no it all I'm going to blow your minds with what my grandpa picked up along the gravel bars on the Columbia river he told me someday and I'd no when the time was right to show his collection and after reading a bunch of u think u know what's what we'll I'm going to school all of u because I know more about stone artifacts than all of u that think u know what your talking about !!! So get ready I'm going to start posting pictures and they were all surface found my grandpa never dug up any thing so get ready cause I'm going to blow your minds
Nomadic, here is a fairly close FCR example to Will's piece from a blacksmith forge building video I just watched, ua-cam.com/video/m-R6iY-mY-Y/v-deo.html Skip to 07:05 and I hope you can see and embrace there are other types of modification other than just our modern paradigm of percussion, pecking, and grinding. Obviously, each type of stone has it's own thermal fracture habit, and for me it has been a blast figuring out what works and what is repeatable. Caution though if you give it a go, many stones will pop violently and having kids around the campfire while doing this is dangerous. (I have had a BB size fragment pop off and embed into my forearm...40 years later and the scar is still there)
Brooksy and his cronie Richardsrockhouse do this for one reason and one reason only MONEY. Hell they have price tags on before they even get them in the house. Arrowheads are the most common artifact there are. With out the "DOPE" how do you study a point for hours."his words" ask the Great Spirit for more education Brooksy that is what you need. Shira might have the uses wrong but who really knows, NOBODY. and surely not Mike Brooks.
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