How to identify manos or pestles used on metates or mortars.

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2012
  • A 15 minute video showing the different types of manos and how they were used showing how they ground places for fingers and palm of hand.

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  • @jerrybruckhart9134
    @jerrybruckhart9134 2 роки тому +6

    Personally, I see no MANipulation on most of those for sure, simple natural cobbles.

  • @latenitedonna7860
    @latenitedonna7860 2 роки тому +4

    Been an avid rock collector my whole life.I recently(ok, you can laugh) figured out how the photo lense display works. It just bums me out that there's say 5 different types that will come up to match my rock, and they are all possibilities. Ugh. I used to just collect for unique or fossils, or keepsake from somewhere. Where I live now, I've come across native american tools. The Nanticoke Lenni-lenape hold roots here. Just recently exploring with my dog I discovered a cairn. It is not on historical sites. I'm not disclosing any information due to the fact the site that is known has been vandalized and ransacked. I too have an ax head shaped rock with a very predominant "X" on it.

  • @individualg8383
    @individualg8383 4 роки тому +4

    Nice. Good you have a eye for those artifacts you behold. People pass them by all day. Keep finding great Native historical artifacts before the mixed into concrete for a parking lot

  • @jppestana1
    @jppestana1 6 років тому +12

    I have read most of the supportive & harsh comments made over the years specific to the validity of the stone tools Bill displays in these videos and the general sense/descriptions of their purpose. I think we are fortunate to have these videos because the intent is to educate and the focus for most artifact collectors is not generally, on camp stones/tools, but arrowheads, spear points, perhaps axes,etc. I have spent a few years in the southwest discovering stone tools. They range from pretty primitive to remarkably clever. I am an extremely discriminating amateur and know that none of us can be right in all ways re: all artifacts-there are just too many variables and we will always have to guess at some aspects of unique looking tools and their function.I am sure of this however, much of the TRUTH in learning/knowing stone tools comes from 1) experience in the field 2) where they are found and what they are found with 3) FEEL and the ERGONOMICS- you have to hold them to know them!- generally, but NOT ALWAYS with wear-depending on the tools use, age,environment, etc. they can easily vary from nearly destroyed/disfigured globs to remarkably smooth, polished gems-with experience you will be nearly 100% certain if what you are holding is a geo-artifact, or a man/woman made finished artifact 4) the types of stone tools in the locale/field area you are finding -typically, the sizes will range from VERY large to micro tools-it is imperative you train yourself to identify every size of tool-the range is huge and many smaller/micro tools are never identified-this takes a lot of time, thought and eyeballs focused on the ground 5) distinguish between tools used in food preparation-grinding, for instance, light pounding, working skins-and the myriad other camp tasks required -Native Americans required a WIDE RANGE of tools for many different purposes as Bill clearly shows in his videos 6) not all tools were created equal-I have some that are glorious works of art-others much less so, and yet, with an understanding of characteristics and thoughtful flexibility, you will get better at seeing and feeling the creativity and unique design features that make stone tool technologies so fascinating.

    • @robthinking
      @robthinking 6 років тому +1

      JP Pestana you have no idea what you are talking about ! There is so much crap out there about artifacts . The true artifacts that are out there will stand for them selves... No body needs bad info that you are spewing out . Dude get an education on what you are talking about ... stop misleading people ! Give true info or nothing at all . You really make your self look stupid .these rocks you show are natural rocks and not artifacts.

  • @ganggreensantiago202
    @ganggreensantiago202 3 роки тому +1

    Same stuff, different pile!
    Always looking, stay Stoney my friend.
    Vancouver 🇨🇦

  • @taylorjones3522
    @taylorjones3522 8 років тому +10

    Ive found dozens of manos and have seen many more in museums here in the Southwest. None of these, except maybe the round one near the end of the video, is authentic. Most are just rocks.
    You should not be looking for certain shapes or how well your hand fits into one. (Manos come in all shapes and sizes) Look for wear marks. I didnt notice wear marks on any of these except possibly the little round one I mentioned. Wear marks are very easy to tell.
    If its not perfectly flat on at least one side (the grinding side), its most likely not a mano.

    • @len2842
      @len2842 4 роки тому +1

      Lol.. so glad ther are smart capable people like the gentleman "William Shira" whos common senses work for them and thus are able to assess using logic' thanks William Shira..

    • @len2842
      @len2842 4 роки тому

      @phục êwê lol..

    • @bloodnthuner
      @bloodnthuner Місяць тому

      No he's got some nice stuff there

  • @lucindagaskill7137
    @lucindagaskill7137 2 роки тому +1

    I have so many of these types of rocks and now I'm going to take a 2nd look.

  • @harmonymomentofbeing5753
    @harmonymomentofbeing5753 4 роки тому +2

    Ty so much this was very helpful I found alot and samething ppl thot I was crazy but whatever they know nothing apparently.but ty so much

  • @JB-zf8nh
    @JB-zf8nh 3 роки тому

    Great finds!

  • @jamiehamm3676
    @jamiehamm3676 8 років тому +5

    William! I am so excited you have uploaded your videos because my mother and I have recently come across many, many artifacts and being a novice in the artifact world, we are working on educating ourselves so that we can help preserve the history in our area by identify these artifacts and placing them on display. We will be uploading our videos soon and we would like you to take a look! Your videos have been VERY helpful! Thanks! McKenzie Munro

    • @straubdavid9
      @straubdavid9 6 років тому +1

      @ Jamie Hamm ..... your best bet would be to search for Indian Artifact Shows in your area, and take these items there to get confirmation on the things you find. The items in this video are dubious at best.

  • @bigbrain2156
    @bigbrain2156 3 роки тому +5

    nothing shows grinding or pecking (hammering) wear. Your also orientating it in your hand wrong if its a pestle hold the fat end in the hand flat side parallel with your hand. But most of these are GEOFACTS not artifacts

    • @rondias6625
      @rondias6625 3 роки тому +1

      Most of them are geofacts I agree as I have boxes of similar rocks..most that is..some of these do look man made..I never consider rocks from creeks or streams as artifacts only ones I find along with arrowheads scrappers etc..

    • @MastrMynd
      @MastrMynd 2 роки тому +1

      As an archaeologist with over 40 years experience in the field, I can tell you that most of Bill’s finds are legitimate. Not all, but almost all are.
      He definitely has an “eye” for finding them, whereas, others without that ability, cannot perceive these objects with the same regard. It’s frustrating, because, to persons such as myself or Bill, it is quite obvious what is an artifact or not, while others who simply can’t “see” it in the same manner, will often dismiss it, which is a pity, but understandable none the least. Keep up the good work Bill.

    • @peallen92
      @peallen92 Рік тому +1

      @@MastrMynd where did you study archaeology?

  • @nikkicapone1018
    @nikkicapone1018 2 роки тому

    Hiya William, new subscriber here from Southern New Jersey. I live right across the Delaware river from Philly, and am always exploring my area. I collect anything that catches my eye to and after watching this video, I'm just about certain I found myself a mano!! I wish UA-cam allowed pictures in the comments. Thanks so much for the information 👍

  • @opiebadazz1174
    @opiebadazz1174 4 роки тому +2

    All tools that they make fit your hands perfect I have found a ton of them on the creek I live on in pollock la,they were skilled at what they did we are lucky our tools sheds have dewalt and craftsman in them theirs had rocks and stick.

  • @susanroberts9227
    @susanroberts9227 3 роки тому +6

    With great respect, have you had any of these verified by archaeologists? These appear to be simply rocks...perhaps have been tumbled in water over time....but I thinks it’s a stretch to ID them all as actual tools....just my opinion after 40 years of collecting...

    • @jak3589
      @jak3589 2 роки тому +1

      I agree with you they are river rocks no pecking or polishing

  • @user-nf3sm5ce5w
    @user-nf3sm5ce5w 9 місяців тому

    From a fellow artifact collector I'm a little confused about what is real or not cause I see all kinds of things with different markings on them and I guess you have to have a keen eye for sure the creator has blessed me with many arrowheads I always put an offering to the creator before I start my journey back in time looking for the tools and spirits of the past to all that seek the knowledge of past be safe in your journeys

  • @kevinreynolds7068
    @kevinreynolds7068 Рік тому +1

    Finds in around rivers are questionable. The sand and water can create geological anomalies.

  • @rolirauter4037
    @rolirauter4037 6 років тому +11

    You like this stones ? come to Austria because you can get tones of it in every river here,sry i see maybee in 1 stone maybee something but the rest are normal stones,but good video, Roli

  • @jak3589
    @jak3589 2 роки тому +3

    These are plain rocks tumbled in water there are tons of these laying around if they were used so much there would be wear on the pressure points & not uniform in feel there is no pecking or polishing on these average rocks

  • @History_MysteryCT
    @History_MysteryCT Рік тому +1

    Hmmmm…most of those in the video do not show any wear use or any pecking/grinding

  • @gabriel19551
    @gabriel19551 5 років тому +9

    William...I'm sorry but you have nothing there. I have studied American Indian culture almost all my life. I just donated an extensive collection of artifacts to the Oneida Nation. I will make a video for you of what's left of my collection so you can see what real worked tools look like. What you have are natural creek and field stones.

    • @gharames
      @gharames 2 роки тому +1

      Do you have a video or link?

  • @len2842
    @len2842 3 роки тому

    many a natural occurring stone from the creative period have been taken and shaped into many a different type of tool designed to use for specific works' as mister Shira points out' its nice that there are some people who have the ability to recognize shapes' angles' patterns' etc that does not occure natuarally' and then using logic' they can determine its likely purpose' the mind of a science proffessional.. some' certainly not all are born with it' thanks lots for your insight Mr Shira.. would love to share with you some of what I have found.. many so much alike to what you have found...

  • @jppestana1
    @jppestana1 6 років тому

    Just about everything I have learned about stone tools I have gleaned from your videos. Invaluable.

    • @straubdavid9
      @straubdavid9 6 років тому +3

      Yikes ..... that's scary, or perhaps the word I'm looking for is "sad"!

    • @morten1975dk
      @morten1975dk 6 років тому +2

      You need to learn elsewhere...Trust me on this one!

    • @bty1471
      @bty1471 6 років тому +1

      this guy is crazy. he knows nothing

    • @jacob2790
      @jacob2790 4 роки тому +2

      He's right about the info being "invaluable"

    • @kimical88
      @kimical88 3 роки тому +1

      And guess what-you've learned nothing

  • @gabrielgriffin9230
    @gabrielgriffin9230 2 роки тому

    the first piece has an eye and beak shaped out if you look it appears to be a a turkey and they used the function first but added art too great piece

  • @archeologicalstudent5234
    @archeologicalstudent5234 13 днів тому

    I also have same stuff different pile. I have hundreds from Indian village sites overlooked Miwok Indian artifacts

  • @jppestana1
    @jppestana1 8 років тому +1

    Another excellent video. Often difficult to determine without more knowledge on the manos.

  • @coltfortyfive5161
    @coltfortyfive5161 7 років тому +3

    Wish I would have seen your videos when I first started looking for artifact. Found several thing that I know now were made by Indians, but just tossed them aside. I did manage to keep a few, but not sure what they are. Would love to have you take a look at them.

  • @gabrielgriffin9230
    @gabrielgriffin9230 2 роки тому

    second one has an owl in the back side if you look close imo

  • @alaindonnell8924
    @alaindonnell8924 2 місяці тому

    bit of a stretch to claim skin oil still permeates the surface of any of those tools, isn't it? Has this been tested?

  • @sherrydetla4888
    @sherrydetla4888 7 років тому +2

    Like this very good thanks..I am doing very well on my search..of many finds ..

  • @myfriendscallme7866
    @myfriendscallme7866 Рік тому +1

    I need your help. I hope your still active and see this. Everyone thinks I’m crazy on Reddit. I did come in a lil crazy like I a now but I’m too worked up about what I found. Today was my first day finding anything on top of how cool it is too me.

  • @josefizquierdo6139
    @josefizquierdo6139 3 роки тому +1

    They look like alien heads. I have one with eyes that I found in my yard, along with other artifacts.

  • @brandiross5616
    @brandiross5616 4 роки тому +1

    I keep thinking I'm crazy, but you're seeing and picking up EXACTLY THE SAME things as I am! So on sheer statistics alone, it's not coincidence or of some scientific geological explanation for a very high number of different shaped rocks to be found but only in specific areas but not ones that would be normally primarily grouped due to geography or topography...if that makes sense at all. Do you live in Idaho? Do you have an email or website contact? I'm totally fascinated with this. I have these things coming out my ears! But I'm very uneducated about it. I don't like looking for arrowheads. I don't have the patience. I do bottle digging...but I'm surrounded here with this stuff. I have questions. I'd love to talk to someone further. Until then, I'll keep watching so as to know I'm not nuts with what I'm seeing everyday. Lol. Very fascinating. Thank you.

    • @lauriecarter4458
      @lauriecarter4458 3 роки тому

      Check into meteorites.

    • @rondias6625
      @rondias6625 3 роки тому

      Strange..I live in western Pa and have boxes of the exact same looking artifacts but made from different lithographic materials..but I find them in the same fields as arrowheads..I do keep an open mind as to geofacts but the coincidence as you say of having the exact same stone shapes n sizes is indeed thought provoking when I have the same things 2,000 miles away..

  • @madisoneclectic3101
    @madisoneclectic3101 2 роки тому +1

    Just rocks.

  • @user-fz9gh4xk8v
    @user-fz9gh4xk8v Рік тому

    Can you help people identify things they have

  • @MdMafejur-yj4nj
    @MdMafejur-yj4nj 8 місяців тому

    ❤❤

  • @robertdavis1165
    @robertdavis1165 4 місяці тому

    I have a lot of these,
    A long with some effigies

  • @joshdahl9671
    @joshdahl9671 3 роки тому +1

    those are just rocks bud

  • @kylerjanovec3906
    @kylerjanovec3906 6 років тому +2

    It has oils from your hand on it? I guess it’s now an artifact in a few years

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 2 місяці тому +1

    I had mono before 😂😂

  • @peallen92
    @peallen92 Рік тому +2

    90% of those are just river rocks.

  • @sherrycordes944
    @sherrycordes944 5 років тому +5

    He only knows one thing, making circles to the left. Haha

  • @Hopewellmj
    @Hopewellmj 8 років тому +2

    great information - thanks

  • @kenziekae3741
    @kenziekae3741 8 років тому +3

    Bill, I just love your artifacts! I have tons of these artifacts that were found right here on my property. I am trying to e-mail you.

    • @straubdavid9
      @straubdavid9 6 років тому +1

      I have these on my property too, and my house (at least 100 years old) was built on top of a dump! Does that tell you anything about the rocks this guy is showing here? Maybe he can email you one of those rocks ~8^)

  • @RondelayAOK
    @RondelayAOK 10 місяців тому

    Rock collection and wishful thinking

  • @Rockhoundingcolorado
    @Rockhoundingcolorado Рік тому

    There real.Called Mano, used on the Matete.

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 2 місяці тому +1

    River rocks 🪨 😂😂

  • @jolee1506
    @jolee1506 6 років тому +2

    you're as funny as last rock collector

  • @20greeneyes20
    @20greeneyes20 6 років тому +2

    I think sometime we want them to be something when it's really nature made. Yes if used for grinding they would be very flat and very smooth. Hmmm~ I don't think so.... sorry

  • @wildernessseagull1438
    @wildernessseagull1438 7 років тому

    Today on my walk i noticed a few circles cut into thirds. They were nice and round and i thought they broke perfectly that way, but now that i think about it, it is possible that it was an artifact. I should go back there with someone one day because today i found WET FUR on my favorite trail, than an actual black animal running, lol so i ran as fast as i could out of there. Than i realized i lost my phone so i had to go all the way back lol, i found it by the river where i was scearching wow. Lol

  • @309schaefer9
    @309schaefer9 6 років тому +9

    just natural rocks

  • @wildernessseagull1438
    @wildernessseagull1438 7 років тому

    I love all animals and im sure the animal is just as scared of me as i am of it. Lol i hope. And i want to go back tomorow or next day to search for artifact!

  • @roadkillavenger1325
    @roadkillavenger1325 6 років тому +4

    i met a guy like this years ago. He was 'artifact' hunting in a creek when me, my brother, and cousin walked up on him. We asked him if he had found anything and he said yes. Then he started showing us his 'artifacts'. We looked at each other and didn't say a word to him about his 'artifacts'..... ALL of them were natural. He told us he had found an axe and put it in his truck, so we went to look at it. It was just a sharp piece of jagged rock that had no indications whatsoever that it was manipulated by a human. Just natural rocks. Why do people like that even exist? Real artifacts aren't that difficult to find, so why even entertain the thought that a natural rock is an artifact?

    • @len2842
      @len2842 4 роки тому

      Heck of a lot of self willed ignorant people for whatever reasons' weak shallow? They have allowed for their God given most basic of elementary common senses to have been suppressed' to the point that no amount of logic works for them' this be the nimbly' minds of the weak and boring people' lol.. you as do many more with their insipid little remarks and some with long drawn out 'obtuse' narratives standing loud and proud about their ignorance' .. many of these believe they have monkeys and apes in their lineage.. oh ya' and lifeless smatter as well' .. these ones need to spend a great deal if time in front of the mirror' with' a psychologist standing be- side them' .. lol.. fact! dope destroys brain cells'

    • @TinaHyde
      @TinaHyde 3 роки тому +2

      @@len2842 Yikes. Why so triggered by a guy who hopes?

  • @MrTreyhoehn
    @MrTreyhoehn 7 років тому +10

    i think your grasping at stones....i see no polishing on any of them .i found many stone tools an they all have polishing on the business end of the tool

    • @glynnisthomas9165
      @glynnisthomas9165 Рік тому

      You don't? I can see the shine on some of them as he turns them and the light reflects off the surface. Others look very smooth to my eye.

  • @artifactman660
    @artifactman660 6 років тому +4

    I see no Manos or grinding stones . Those are just rocks.

  • @robthinking
    @robthinking 6 років тому +9

    Dude you are touched. You could not be more wrong.

  • @michaelolender6770
    @michaelolender6770 6 років тому +4

    I think these are just river stones

  • @straubdavid9
    @straubdavid9 6 років тому +4

    Heh heh ....... now you are just trolling my friend. Do you have any actual artifacts to show?

  • @gilabird75
    @gilabird75 6 років тому +12

    Dude you are delusional. A mano is completely flat and very smooth on the business end. Look in a book or watch a real video.

  • @glengruber5466
    @glengruber5466 4 роки тому +1

    Most of these are just rocks, you should give a better context to where you found them to aid the novice collectors...stratified terrace wash, fields, river sides ect.. can't hear your tutorial very well.

  • @jimmorgan8688
    @jimmorgan8688 6 років тому +2

    Hahahaha!

  • @kimical88
    @kimical88 3 роки тому +1

    Stop this lunacy

  • @ibrahimyusuf5956
    @ibrahimyusuf5956 7 років тому +1

    I have this kind of manos before I thought that they're meteorite because they're magnetic . .I have getting to 50

  • @kushvalleypitbullclan8034
    @kushvalleypitbullclan8034 6 років тому +2

    By making videos with fake artifacts, all you are doing is helping assholes on ebay scam people with other bullshit rocks like this. I mean seriously man why do you make such claims? If you try to make a stone bowl by peck and grind or stone axe you will see what the different stages really look like while under construction. You will know what the damage on the tools i.e. hammerstone and smaller pecking stones look like after little to heavy use. Try to make a mono by peck and grind, how about a metate. Try flintknapping and percussion flaking to understand how stone breaks and how they dont break, try using bone vs stone tools or cheat and use copper. The point is you must work with the stone before you can fully hear what it is saying, and the stones in this video are not saying much.

    • @nox7282
      @nox7282 Рік тому

      I agree that fake artifacts should not be presented. However, should people be buying artifacts on Ebay? Just a thought! I think we all know the answer to that.

  • @robertayoder2063
    @robertayoder2063 4 роки тому +6

    No grounded pecked or anything fool

    • @williamholt2429
      @williamholt2429 3 роки тому +2

      To look at your profile I wouldn't figure you to be so rude as to call anyone a fool . Oh well , One more disappointing element.

    • @robertayoder2063
      @robertayoder2063 3 роки тому

      @@williamholt2429 William who our you ?

    • @robertayoder2063
      @robertayoder2063 3 роки тому

      @@williamholt2429 disappointing on what I apologize for not knowing what you our talking about sir

    • @robertayoder2063
      @robertayoder2063 3 роки тому +1

      @@williamholt2429 sir it says no ground or pecked or anything . I did not make the comment my son is a archeologists and sounds like something he would of made a comment about

    • @williamholt2429
      @williamholt2429 3 роки тому

      @@robertayoder2063 Does it not say "fool" at the end ?

  • @aquablue6301
    @aquablue6301 5 років тому +4

    The ignorance is strong in this one. Don't waste your time people.

  • @denaredford6701
    @denaredford6701 2 роки тому

    Some tools are women’s tools and others are men’s tools . The men made the tools , and hunted . The women gathered and did food prep and cooking .