The Book of Revelation: Grant Osborne and Thomas Schreiner's Commentaries Compared
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Thanks for this discussion. This has been on my mind of late. I listened to Schreiner’s discussion of eschatology on the SBTS UA-cam channel and as you say, he is very gracious. I think the fact that he has changed his view several times is a good lesson for all of us to avoid being dogmatic on an issue that’s been argued since the church Fathers. I have a view, but I don’t have any desire to convince someone else to come to my side. Thanks again for all you do.
My pleasure, Terry. Thanks for the comment.
Excellent succinct overview of key points of distinction between these commentaries and this view of the millennium which is new to me. Thank you very much Daniel.
Thank you, Colin. I appreciate your comments!
Thank you so much for this video. I ordered the Osborne volume to add to my library. I look forward to digging into it.
Oh, great. Let me know what you think.
Because it was ‘replaced’, Osborne’s volume is on a great sale. I picked a copy up. Thanks for explaining the differences, it was super helpful!
Good for you! I'm glad it's on sale.
Thank you again. Many years ago I read (now twice) George Caird's fascinating and accessible commentary and so enjoyed it (I actually had a 2nd year college room exactly opposite his study, maybe 20m away, so I could see him at work from time to time! I didn't know at the time that he was supervising Tom Wright's DPhil on Romans but I remember seeing a huge pile of books that had arrived for him - presumably in hope of a review - in the porters' lodge. Quite a call on his valuable time.) The various shorter commentaries available seem to me all much the same having read a few. IMO Tom Schreiner is worthy of great respect with his brilliant (both) commentaries on Romans, his Theologies (and now his son Patrick's on Matthew's Gospel which is not an easy read but ... for another time), and who honestly hasn't changed his/her mind on points of doctrine? Especially on this one. Is this another go-to NT commentary from the pen of TS? Probably then.
Great story, Steven! I agree that Schreiner is worthy of respect as a theologian and commentator. I have a few books of Patrick's but I haven't spent much time with them yet.
Thank you very much for doing this video 📹
I'm happy to help!
Thank you Daniel.
My pleasure. Take care.
✔✔Thank You
You are welcome! Thanks for watching.
I just finished reading both of these! I’d also add that everyone should have access to issue 64 of JETS because it’s over 2 years old.
Yes, I have used JETS before and the volume 64.4 is available to anyone. You can just click on the article and it opens.
Wich one would you recommend the most??
@@israelrivera3009 I preferred Osborne, but I honestly read ten other commentaries (I’m teaching revelation right now) and these two were my favorite of all of them. So of all of them Osborne was my number 1 and Schriener was my number 2
@@jacobsowles5500 Based on your comment, I will buy both! Tanksss
Is this one different from his (GO) verse by verse Revelation commentary?
His interpretation of the text is essentially the same in terms of theology. The GO version is half the length of the BECNT and is more devotional and reflective, and probably better for most laypeople.
Tolstad's commentary on Revelation for Paideia also argues that John is telling the same story from different angles, as if looking at a series of parallel lines. It gives for a fascinating and helpful reading (Tolstad does a good job vindicating God from the critics who see Revelation as a paroxysm of blood and Christian resentment). I have Schreiner's commentary and it's okay reading. I also enjoy Schnabel's writing as well, at least the two books of his that I have. I have no firm leanings one way or another on matters beyond my ultimate knowledge, and enjoy a variety of viewpoints. God wins in the end. That's the most important takeaway.
Amen, Elliot! Thanks for the comment.
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What language is this? :)
German - ich hatte mich schon länger gefragt wieso plötzlich innerhalb derselben Kommentarreihe der Bearbeiter wechselt (den Kommentar von Osbourne hatte ich mir seinerzeit wegen den guten Bewertungen angeschafft) und Eckhard Schnabel (second and later pronounced was correct 😊) kenn ich selbstverständlich 😂( auch Deutscher - sein sehr empfehlenswertes deutsches Buch zur Inspiration besitze ich zum Glück) dass der zu dem Kommentar von Schreiner ein Review geschrieben hat echt genial hier etwas darüber zu erfahren 👍 nur schade dass Dein Kanal auf englisch ist und es in meiner Sprache nichts vergleichbares gibt ( zum Glück gibts deutsche Untertitel 😊das erleichtert das Hören sehr)
Thank you for telling me which pronunication was correct! I'm glad there are subtitles for you! I hope you watch and comment more in the future!
INteresting. I was looking at JEETS and a layman seems I am out of luck on Membership. But I will have to take a look at some of these volumes all can read. Having no background may make my understanding of this Journal near impossible. But it does not mean I will not look carefully and read what is presented. With no Greek or Hebrew Background Odds are this is a journal that will not Be of value as studying The Word.
Hi David, not all the articles require knowledge of the original languages but some do. I occassionally read articles if they interest me, but my favorite section is the book reviews. These journals show up on Ebay now and then and they are usually pretty affordable, so that may be a way to pick up one to see how you do with it.
@@BestBibleCommentaries Well I am reading some of the free ones. Looking at the oldest ones first. I am a strong one believing the Bible more important than other things like Tradition. I read from the past and read from the present. I am in an area of so much false teaching. And those who want our churches to compromise with the world. I have to keep reminding myself James 4:4. And make all my responses in a quiet but respectful manner when possible. Not let feelings over the Bible. And compromise is pushed even in my Church. I study to learn and expand my knowledge. When I find Universalist commentaries and they are out there I laugh at them. I check what is said on Trusted passages on various topics. That is why I like Best Commentaries. Because I do not know the bests one out there. Buty I also look at commentaries in other era's
For what I do I learn and share with those who are seeking. Answer questionss or research topics for others. For as a Christian I must help others grow in faith. Guide if possible to an answer. But always emphasis read the bible as a trusted source.
I'm very skeptical.
It's an interesting interpretation.
@BestBibleCommentaries I just wonder, considering all the great bible scholars past and present how we just now have another view.
Romans 7:14 "For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold as a slave under sin (governed by ego desire). For I do not understand what I am doing, because I do not practice what I want to do, but I do what I hate (no discernment) . Romans 7:18 For I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh. For the desire to do what is good is with me, but there is no ability to do it." Ego has willingness but no discernment. Schreiner is clueless.
Neither are good. I read them both and they don’t understand the Jewish perspective either author. You can glean some small information but it’s hitting some trees and always missing the forest
Just what we need. An excellent and accurate commentary on Revelation replace by a new false view. Keeping with a trend toward biblical revisionism. When will people realize a new biblical interpretation is just a wrong one. Schreiner doesn’t seem to know what Revelation says and is now on his 3rd different viewpoint. Perhaps he should figure it out before writing commentaries.
Thank you for your review. It saved me from wasting my money.
Schriener keeps changing his mind. He can't be trusted! And Baker seems to be publishing more Roman Catholic books then ever.
He admittedly does keep changing his mind. I believe he has gone back and forth on Limited Atonement, too. I am grateful he is honest.
Changing ones mind in eschatological matters its not wrong per se, i would argue its a must and a good sign when someones is honestly digging and searching the scripture.