You obviously have not seen the picture quality of the TCL 8 Series. It's not as good a picture of OLED but about 90% to 95% there. Definitely QLED quality.
Got a 65-inch LG OLED specifically for occasional evening movies. I knew the requirements for dim lighting, and in that environment it's just brilliant. The only thing I regretted later was not getting the 75-inch panel :)
I use a 55 LG OLED for 2 years now. I'm satisfied with it; bought it with some discount at the time and use it mainly as an all-in-one. I use it as pc screen, game on it and watch movies. I know that the only negative is the burn-in, but to prevent that I don't really put my brightness that high. Usually at 40-45, which in the evening can still be very bright. Maybe it's not a positive when watching GOT season 8... but who wants to rewatch that garbage anyway. As for most movies, I tend to watch the older classic quality stuff instead of the garbage that Hollywood is turning out for the past 5 years.
I own both the 65" and the 77" LG OLED sets. My personal make or break decision came down to not only the black level, but especially the viewing angles. Both technologies have an outstanding picture when you view directly from the front, but make sure you are comfortable with the black levels & viewing angles vs. the price before you buy. And for you gamers, I set up the "instant response" game port on the LG 77" to an HP OMEN 45L with GeForce RTX 3080 and run MS Flight Sim 2020 at 4K resolution with no jitters. Flying the MSFS 2020 / TOP GUN / F-18 low level challenges are truly amazing on this configuration.
Having multiple of both LGs OLED and Samsung's QLED, I am all-in on Samsung QLED. 1) Costs less 2) OLED has burn-in, despite their lies that it doesn't. This alone is a show stopper for me. Very noticeable, very annoying. 3) I have Samsung TVs outside. One was on a mobile stand and got hit by a large amount of rain because I failed to put it somewhere safe. Thought it was toast. Right after, it looked like washed out mountains from water in the layers of the screen. However, within weeks of use it just faded back out completely. Years later, still going strong. 4) Warranty. I always buy the extended warranty (4 or 5 years). Samsung has always honored it, no questions. LG refused to fix the TV with burn in it claims can't happen. 5) Samsung's are much better in bright light. Will never buy an LG again.
Samsung's aren't brighter, QLED is. OLED is superior in every way beside brightness. Whether it's Samsung or LG's OLED. QD-OLED from Samsung is getting almost as bright as QLED now though. QLED is cheaper and brighter. If your TV is not going in an extremely bright room and you have enough money / want the best, then OLED is always superior. The viewing angels and colours are just amazing. I myself would go for Sony's OLED but all 3 (LG, Samsung and Sony) make amazing TV's.
@Max007 LOL. QLED may be brighter, but it is far from cheaper. It also fails far, far easier. Period. LG alao sucks in warranty. No comparison. Period. Take it to the bank.
@@trevorwesterdahl6245 QLED is way cheaper :) Idk if you have this thing called Google, but if you do, you could just check it out yourself. OLED is, definitely on the smaller models, close to 100% more expensive. Cheapest QLED at best buy is around 350$ and the same size in OLED starts at about a 900$. For bigger sizes the difference is less. OLED does fail easier but it's not like the old days anymore. I have 2 OLED panels which have no signs of burn-in whatsoever after 4 years. LG having bad warranty has nothing to do with a QLED vs OLED comparison.
@@maxjames00077 Now you compare tiny, not mentioned, TVs. I have been referiing to 65" or larger LG OLED vs Samsumg QLED. LG is charging MUCH more for their OLED. Won't buy LG again. Period.
Samsungs mini led QLED models cost the same as LGs oleds. I got one myself and am pretty happy with it. The black levels are pretty good and it can get really bright
@@twennywonn Only if you mean "good QLED" to only mean Neo QLED, which is so dumb when we see what amazing technology even budget QLEDs can have, such as the 2020/2021 TCL Class 5 and Class 6 series which both have full array backlighting, local dimming (true blacks), Dolby Vision, and mini-LED for the Class 6 Series, as well as still having amazing colors compared to most TVs in the last 5 years except OLED. And the Class 5 Series is only around $500 for a 50" (I personally got it on sale for $430), meaning you can get great technology and excellent features at a really low cost. And it's not just for people on a low budget either, if someone wants a ~75" TV and is considering QLED and OLED, a 77" LG C1 as compared to a 75" TCL Class 6 Series mini-LED is $2900 vs $1300 (USD, going off of the current sale prices on Best Buy for both TVs), or literally less than half the price, and the TCL still has better brightness on account of the mini-LED, over a 200 nit advantage in terms of max brightness. And if someone has a strict budget of $2000, which isn't that unreasonable for a working-class individual, then if they went OLED they'd be sacrificing a lot of screen real estate compared to a similarly priced QLED which is generally going to have around 20" on it. I will agree that Neo QLED is so close to OLED in price that it makes it not worth it in 90% of instances, but don't sleep on these excellent budget QLEDs with amazing tech, they can make a great option for a lot of people such as myself
@@burnoutcollectivist4660 I stopped reading when I saw TCL.They do make great value TVs but just not great TVs IMO. But you do you man be happy with what you have.
I was trying to explain that to a customer but he said the q70a was good enough smh. I can usually guarantee a sale on a full array like a q80 or an x90 but man this guy was stubborn
QLEDS can get close to OLEDs when it comes to black levels especially with a good local dimming algorithm. But OLEDs can't even get near the level of brightness a QLED can hit. I'll take the picture which can show me a brighter highlights over "perfect blacks".
@@bignbad47I got a C1 but I’m def considering getting the C2 come Black Friday stuff. The C1 is perfection only negative I have is lack of brightness. The Evo panels of the c2 should solve some of those issues tho.
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I've had an LG OLED since 2017. I've had the panel replaced 3 years into it for significant burn-in. I understand that they are addressing that issue still and I honestly don't trust they've solved it from all I've researched. The TV is now in need of yet another new panel and as it's out of warranty (LG will honor one panel replacement out-of-warranty apparently). I'm not convinced the issue is solved. Therefore, I personally would NOT recommend an OLED until they solve the problem.
I got my LG OLED in 2018 and haven't experienced any burn-in. I use it as a monitor for work and play. I figured I'd have some burnt-in taskbars by now, so I guess I'm fortunate. Honestly, I'd still go for another OLED at this point. The perfect blacks I can't give up! Also my friend's Qled artifacts like crazy in dimly lit scenes of movies and UA-cam vids. I simply just ask how he lives with this lol, a few extra years of TV life when it looks like ass the entire time is beyond me.
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I think it depends on where you are using the TV. If you are using in a bright room with natural light a QLED in that room is probably a better choice. OLED is stunning in a darker room with colors that can really pop against the true black. I bought my first LG OLED (55") back in 2016. I have since added a 65" LG OLED CX for the living room TV and a 65" C2 series LG OLED EVO as a computer/XBOX Series X screen. Burn in basically a non issue unless you play a game with a static images on the screen or TV channels with static images or a constant runner (think the bottom of screen on a news channel that has a stream of info scrolling across the screen). After owing an OLED now for 6 years (I still use the 55" LG OLED) I have 1 stuck/dead pixel and none of the burn in.
I'm thinking about getting the C2. I play games daily, and the LG OLED gaming features caught my interest. I am worried about burn in. As games have static things on screen at all times. Healthbars, HUD, etc. I hear mixed messages. Some say it's a non-issue these days. Other say they got burn in withing 3 months. So... I figure I should be fine. As I play many different games, and usually only for a couple hours a day. With the TV not in use the rest of the time. But I'm still reluctant. I don't want that constant nagging worry in the back of my mind. That every time the TV is on the pixels are slowly dying and running out of their limited lifespan. So I'm torn. If it lasts long enough I won't have a problem. I would hope for around 5 years. I guess they also have a warranty against burn in for that long... I dunno, I'm conflicted.
@@sawdust8691 Those burn ins must be some old TV or something. C1 improved the heat dissipation from thr CX models, I'd assume the C2 is better. I play on my CX everyday, even on games with long standing HUDs like Cyberpunk, Super Smash, or Splatoon didn't burn anything in so I don't think it's a concern
@@RaigonZelo ya... it's probably fine. I'll keep an eye on the prices. It's the time of year where they drop the lowest. I saw a while ago it was around 1700 for a 55in. C2, which is my preferred size for the room. It's already dropped to 1300. And still dropping. So I'll keep an eye out.
The burn-in on my LGs is horrific. A major issue. LG refused to do anything. Samsung's have no burn in. Samsung honors their warranty. LG does not. Will never buy an LG again. FYI: I have multiple TVs for a sports bar setting. Leave up an image that has, say an ESPN logo in same spot, it burns in badly. Horrifically. No thanks. If you just watch movies/TV shows, you are probably fine. FYI: the Samsung's have been outdoors for years. Only had one issue where I accidentally let one get rain soaked. Looked like washed out mountains. Self-healed in days. Samsung's are just durable, cost less, honor their warranty, and I never had one person say the LG image looked better. In bright light, the Samsung's are better. Everyone notices.
I just got a 55” Samsung Tizen 4K QLED Smart TV for my bedroom, and holy shite man, I’ve never been more blown away by a tv, especially at that size. I have a 65” 4K curved screen in my living room, and have been so compelled to switch the two sometimes haha, but that’s an older model, but still a gorgeous tv. But just for use in my room with watching light tv and movies before bed, or playing some Xbox in bed when I don’t feel like getting out of it, I could stare at that QLED aaalllll day man.
Samsung Qleds are elite, I have had an Oled LG and a Qled Samsung still as of today I’m taking Samsung’s Qled all day everyday they have perfected their pictures through Qled for so many years that it’s just superior in my opinion. Now on the flip side Oled yes has deeper black coloring and a more organic look but like the burn it defect I had left my tv on overnight and my Xbox dashboard was burnt into my screen for the whole entire next 3-4 days and even after that if you got close enough you could still see it ever since then I’ve just been scared from spending extra money on a tv that I have to be careful with and set timers for watch times so it wouldn’t burn in. But overall Samsung Qled can never go wrong with.
I love your video on this subject! I am a retail worker specializing on TV's, and your's is the first video that truly speaks the facts objectively. Good job bro, got me subbed. I own an LG Oled myself B16 series
Thanks for this. I'll be getting a QLED tv this time around. I have an OLED now, but it isn't great for gaming in my opinion due to the constant burn ins I get.
First off all, a neo qled actually has a lot of advantages, and for a brighter room, a qled will outperform an oled everytime. And a top tier qled is just like an oled to the naked eye, i have had both and ofcourse both are great. But with my bright living room the qled performs way better during the day
Your opinion make sense, qled are generally easier to adapt to living rooms, as they are generally bright rooms in any house, but the new QD-OLED / MLA technology OLEDs, have to say really come close to brightness to top tier QLED making everyone question if QLED does still make sense at this point (if we don’t factor the burn in issue), microled will come might be the next big thing
I went to the store to buy a Samsung 8K QLED, but left with a 4K LG G1 OLED and couldn’t be happier. The picture side by side was so much more impressive on the LG. The Samsung upscaling wasn’t great, maybe I’ll look again in a couple of years.
Bought a 65” LG OLED in 2020 for £1800 and it lasted just over 6months before I started having issues and is now long dead. Bought a 55” Samsung QLED in 2022 for downstairs and loved the features and picture quality, which made me replace the broken LG OLED with a 75” Samsung QLED and I love it.. yeah the black isn’t as black but I absolutely love it and will probably never buy a LG to again.
Just bought a Samsung QLED 65" 80A panel for $730 + tax usd with a two year warranty from MicroCenter. Samsung warranty is nearly worthless. Dealing with a local store is much easier, if something goes belly up.
Picked up a 65” a80j from sony and i have zero complaints. Qled just didnt have what i cared for which was near perfect black levels. I would recommend a qled all day though.
@@Dmahmoud17 it was definitely nice but I ended up returning it because my wife wanted a brighter tv so I ended up getting the qn 85b 85in. I know it has its short comings but overall its a great tv
I bought two Sony 55in OLED TVs just over two years ago. The backlit went out on both of them. The cost to repair them was ridiculous and it made more sense to buy a new TV. I bought the Samsung 55in Class QLED 4K UHD. The picture on the new Samsung TV looks a lot better than my previous Sony TVs. From my understanding QLED TV's last a lot longer than OLED.
No one seems to mention the best tv depends on your watching habits. If you watch UA-cam,etc you will eventually have burn in and image screen retention with the lg oled. After 5 years my C7 had image retention and the colors were shot. Pink was purple/orange was green. Peoples skin color looked horrid. I went with a nano cell this time around. I cant see buying a new oled every 5 years. My plasma lasted 15.
@@sgrulido ok..u spend the 1000...use the tv for youtube and other streaming. My colors were also totaly off after 5 years. Get back to me in 5 years and let me know how u make out.
The tech isn't even 10 years old yet. When pink shows up as purple, orange looks like green...and reg tv everyone looks yellow 5 years after purchase ? New....its was best pic money could buy...5 years later its not worth viewing and junk! My 480's lasted 20 years...my plasma 15 with barely any color loss. Oled...less than 5 years. Don't know about everybody else. But most don't have 1400 to throw away every 5 years. I went nano cell this time..half the money
@@z74birdman What is your phone screen? Most smartphones use oleds for years now with a lot of static elemets and there are no issues so there is no reason to think burn-in or color fringing is an issue if the technology gets sufficiently advanced.
If you watch a lot of TV or leave the TV on for long hours daily, you should be aware that OLED TVs dim overtime with useage. Today's TVs are built to last about 5 to 8 years, and with technology's fast pace movement, you will likely need to replace your TV by then. A good reason not to overspend on your TV.
I wonder what the split would be if an LG OLED would be pitched against a new QDLED. I just bought an 85” QDLED two days ago and the picture is just perfect, and substantially cheaper than OLED.
@@rockyj5047 well I can say from own experience that Qled blacks are black AF. The blackest blacks are largely due to the mini-leds dimming though, which works real real well but when it dims when it shouldn’t you see behind the magic.
@@rockyj5047 no, the QD OLEDs will have exactly the same black levels as both are self lit. The only thing that can make a QD OLED look worse is a too aggressive anti glare layer. The QD OLED display technology is an improvement over traditional OLED in every aspect
Many phones are OLED, and my phone I had for many years and I have zero burn in. Even with the same wallpaper for 5 years. Just turn on faster sleep mode settings, don't watch cable or anything that has static content. Always change it up. Switch tabs and things you do. Sounds to me burn in is very preventable, but I don't have an OLED TV (yet).
@@justsaying993 $3,000 for a 55 inch and $4,000 for a 65 inch isn't "ridiculously expensive" considering the new tech involved. Most people expected it to be close to $8,000-$10,000. Also, the A95K isn't targeted at average consumers to begin with. The TV is aimed at Videophiles.
Samsung have a tendency to promise a lot over LG but is very hit or miss at delivering. The amount of Samsung 8K TVs returned to my store this year has been incredible to see. Based on that I would advice being very cautious when buying into Samsungs new QD-OLED TVs when they drop. Fingers crossed they can pull it off.
I bought a LG C1 for my living room but it really struggled during the day when my balcony window provided a lot of indirect sunlight. Bought a Samsung QN90B for the living room and moved the C1 to my darker bedroom where it’s a perfect fit now. OLED for gaming, PC and cinema. QLED for general purpose viewing and bright environments.
Just to say qled and qd display are two different thing qled puts the quantum dot in the backlight to get high purity blue light so the color converting layer can achieve better color qd display aka qd-oled uses the quantum dots as the color converting layer it’s self or in front of the backlight to make the rgb sub pixels
Thanks for the information. This video really is helpful for me to know the differences. From differing between the quality and the usage of the type of TV, as well as knowing what environment is best to use for either of the TVs, this video was the best I have seen so far!
So fun fact. QLED is a trademark of Samsung. It’s their brand of Quantum Dot technology. Anytime you see a non-Samsung TV with the QLED logo / name on it, it’s a dead giveaway that the TV has a Samsung made panel in it.
My 2017 Samsung 65 inch QLED still looks great. Has light bleed from the very sides, but the image and color still looks so good it's not even noticeable. I recently got an Aorus AO48U OLED monitor, and they both look great and have their own advantages. Makes it hard to upgrade, even with the light bleed on the QLED.
I have Samsungs 55 inch ks9500. its edge lit with slight bleed on the right bottom screen but its a FANTASTIC tv. I am curious If I should go with an lg oled 65 inch or Samsungs new 8k tvs that are now center lit
@@spartacuscreator ya but the 8k Samsung is almost future proofing yourself. When I bought my ka9500 2017 Samsung 4K was not really offered as much through app providers. Now they are and so are my gaming systems
@@em1ownerify Yes, YOUR gaming systems. Most of the gaming systems aren't even close and you're talking about 8K already. You think in 5 years 8K will push through if 4K even isn't that regular, ESPECIALLY in gaming.
@@em1ownerify Nah it’s honestly a waste of money. You would be paying way extra for a feature that can’t be utilized properly yet, and by the time it can be, there will be better TVs in the market that cost half the money of the one you bought. Happened to me back in 2014 when 4K TVs had just hit the market. But at the end of the day, do what makes you happy.
I chose QLED over OLED because I mainly use my tv connected to my laptop and since burn in is still a thing with OLED, and I don't want to have to worry about that. I don't want my browser to be burned in. I never regretted the decision.
@@richardwalker6004 so burn in is like u see a picture of a flower for a long time and after a long time when ur watching Netflix u see the flower photo under it, its very annoying i have it in my phone when i set my phone to a White screen i see my UA-cam start screen burnt in the screen. So its always there forever
I have an inexpensive 55" TCL QLED, I am seeing the dreaded "blooming" effect, but guess what? It's not that bad. It's a very slight effect that only happens occasionally, and I wouldn't pay quadruple the price for a TV that doesn't have any bloom whatsoever. The image quality you get for a decent QLED is absolutely fantastic. In my opinion you should just pocket the rest of the money. Viewing angles are a different story. Luckily, my living room is only setup for one couch facing the TV, so it's not a big deal, but yes, the off axis viewing angles do look bad. If you need great viewing angles, be sure to read up on that, and you might have to pay more either for a higher end QLED or an OLED.
@@phillipallen5564 I don't think waiting is necessary in the low-mid TV segment. There's nothing revolutionary right around the corner at that price, things are just gradually getting better. I would advise most people to just buy a TV when they're ready.
I bought a LG C2 55” 6 months ago and so far me and my roommates love it! I was worried about it being dim and not bright enough but it’s been perfect. My only main issue with the TV is WebOS. I’m just not a big fan of how laggy/unresponsive it can be sometimes so I recommend an Apple TV or a Roku.
@@jakej722 I only use the Apple TV so I never have to switch the input, and the Apple TV can control volume and power so I don’t even have the LG TV remote out because it’s pointless in my application.
@@bobsucks9647 There is so little risk of burn-in. People make it sound much more prevalent than it is. It used to be a real issue. Now you have to absolutely abuse the TV to get it, unless you just get a bad panel, which can happen. OLEDs have several features now that help minimize the risk. My LG C2 has a setting that slightly shifts the image over time (which is impossible to notice unless you maybe do a time lapse video with a camera). It also runs a pixel refresh when the TV is turned off, after every 4 hours of accumulated watch time. Then there’s the logo dimmer. When the TV sees a logo sitting in the same spot, such as on a channel like Fox, it can dim it. As well as other features. Don’t let people scare you away. OLED is far better.
Thank you I was going to buy a TV for my room and I just saw your video while scrolling trying to find the right TV and I think im definately going for OLED
The main reason for "burn in" on OLEDs is their horrible factory calibration with white balance. Which directly effects how much light the white LEDs are emitting. For example LG commonly has the color temperature of their LEDs from the factory set to 20k to 30k kelvin. With the white balance set as low as it can go. You are going to be at a less psychotic 5.8k to 6k kelvin. That's within the normal range for LEDs to operate.
I had a TCL QLED that was awesome. Streaming 4k, youtube, xbox one s, it was a wonderful time. Very nice black, good colors and 60 hz does not bothered my anyway. Important, never use the TV with out of the box configuration. I felt in love by android tv. I have to move, my life changed a lot. Now I have a Hisense 1080 32", ordinary LED, that´s the way.... LOL.
You also forgot to mention that OLED is prone to discoloration over time with the burn ins. Every OLED device I've ever owned from TVs to phones have those same exact issues. I'm moving on to QLED. I need my TV to last longer than a couple of years
Never had that with any product, got plenty of oled screens in the house. Also, on newer oled products, there are built in safety procedures to prevent such a thing from happening
@@TimecraftGamingSjors the OLED I purchased in 2017 has the same exact features today. Pixel refreshing nonsense just makes the screen darker. Doesn't fix the retention. Doesn't fix the discoloration. You can keep buying that garbage all you want. No one is paying me to say this. I DC what you think. I know my experience with them
I am a poor man here in the phils. I am still using sony tv 1985. My aunt bought it in USA when she retired 1996. Still working. Made in japan. Repaired 3 times. I never complain.
Pretty happy with my OLED LG. LG even has an extensive free programming choices powered by Pluto TV and Crackle. Of course, my old TV was a 2008 720p Sony Bravia, so when I got the LG OLED working it was stunning in its clarity. Fortunately, I have relatively high internet speed. Kind of a requirement to pick up NFL and ESPN games live and get high quality video.
@@jackbaggaley8836 I haven't seen any. The TV goes to black pretty quick, like in 10-15 seconds of idle pausing or stopped video. Also has a pixel "cleaner" phase that resets any burn in.
“Quantum” does not mean “tiny” for quantum dots. It’s the fact that quantum dots emit light using quantum mechanics. They are not LEDs. The layer of “tiny dots” you are referring to are excited by the blue light and actually emit various wavelengths (color) of light depending upon their size. Just a clarification since they are very different from “LEDs”
@@thomasfischer9259 it depends. If your room is pretty bright youd be better off with a qled. Oled offers a better picture overall but Qled has its followers too, myself included.
I have OLED and QLED and i love them both. But OLED is best for gaming to me, and as for movies and tv shows though it's both OLED and QLED. But i'm excited for MicroLED but it's gonna be years until its affordable for us.
@@cqllel5186 its been 2 years since ive bought my lg cx oled and ive used it for gaming, movies, pc monitor and left it on all the time. No burn in. After a few months of owning an oled, you stop caring about burn in cause its so insignificant
Burn in is still very much an issue. I’ve got a LG CX less than 3 years old with burning in from Minecraft. The red hearts are visible on any red background. I heard the same in 2020 “burn in isn’t much of an issue”. I promise you it is. It’s got me looking at mini LED this year.
My last 3 tv's were OLED, my new Samsung 8K neo Qled beats them into the ground. I love it more than I can say. I probably wouldn't buy another OLED at any rate, the last one got a big green blotch in the center in under 2 years, turns out that's a pretty common occurrence, the tv overheats the OLED cells in the center and blotches the tv, but NOBODY tells you about that when you're looking to buy.
@@youlittlerocket That's my opinion. I know a lot of diehard OLED fans would disagree. Here's the thing for me, yes OLED can get slightly better blacks, but QLED can get WAAAYYY better color range overall and so far, no green blotches
@@traviswanamaker988Have they improved LCD black levels so much that it's only a little worse than OLED? OLED has literally infinitely better black levels than my monitor. Maybe they use a VA screen, which has other problems. Or they use local dimming, but don't you see some blooming around bright images that don't perfectly align with the LEDs?
@@traviswanamaker988 Surely it blooms, but you can't see it because it has a lot of LEDs as backlighting. It's not like it has 33 million LEDs though, so there must be a little bit of blooming. Maybe the static contrast is good enough so you don't really see a lot of difference or it has so many LEDs (tens of thousands) that the area that gets lit up is only a few square millimeters. It does beat buying a new OLED TV every 5 years though. And constantly worrying about burn in. Both my phones have burned in after a few years. OLED TVs should last at least 10 years for the money they cost if my $300 LCD monitor is still working perfectly fine after 8 years. Imagine buying a $1000 OLED monitor every 3 years because of the heavy burn in because of the Windows start bar. At least TVs won't burn in that fast.
My 10 year old 46 inch Samsung 1080p is still going strong. Planning to upgrade to a 75 inch UHD 4K. Probably will go with 65 inch QLED, Samsung ofcourse. For my living room.
Someone that has both an oled and a Mini L LED TVI would highly recommend the oled. If you have small children that will be touching it or using it get the qled. Nothing comes close to oled insane how good it looks
I can't help to think back when we were watching snowy black and white pictures and adding tin foil or maybe a wire coat hanger to the bunny ear antenna to keep the program from fading out . How far things have come!!
Have owned Samsung and LG and Hisense all 65 inch . All three had issues and had to be returned under warranty under one year and credit refunded because they couldn't get the boards . Now watching TLC 75 5 series 2022 model and works perfect " so far , No issues 👍
Got a "budget" 65" QLED Hisense tv on Black Friday for 700. Considering I have a bright living room and wanted to spend less than 1k I honestly can't complain.
@@laloajuria4678 everyone keeps spending alot of money of 50/42" oleds when in reality it's small and not that bright for a living room. This tv fills up the room with bright bold colours and yes the blacks could be better and that hue of light in the corners does annoy me sometimes but the quality of the picture is stunning none the less
I own a U8G and a B7 OLED, and honestly, OLED is far better in every aspect apart from the brightness which can be used properly due to the greying out of the PIC, but the U8G is still good!!
i just got the TCL 55"4K QLED with a lot of savings if i bought the OLED from the leading brands instead. coming from 42" 1080p, so happy with my purchase so far.
I bought an LG CX when they just released. and I've got some pretty bad burn in. I turned on all the anti-burn in features, and ran pixel refresher. I love the picture, but I think my next tv will be a Qled.
@@zoopa9988 As of right now, 14782 hours. Pixel refresh helps, and it's not super noticable, but I hate having to baby it at times. I really do love the picture and the response time for gaming. Well, I say it's not super noticable, that's after I ran the hour long pixel refresh every day for the last week. It WAS pretty bad, but now it's just noticible when it's on certain plain color backgrounds, and it's light enough I can ignore it. I'll probably run pixel refresh every day for the next week, and see if I can get it a bit better. I also turned the brightness down from 80 to 60. Also, to look up the hours you've used it, you go to All settings -> Support -> Total power on time
@@BlueThundah75 don't run the pixelrefresher to much, it makes only sense one time after 2000 hours, or if you have problems. It will not be better if you run it everyday. The tv run a small refresh every 4 hours if you turn your tv into standby. So don't disconnect it from power.
@@navid617 Yeah, sounds about right, I usually user the power saver option to turn off my screen so music and such still plays while the TV is off, It's hard for me to sleep if something isn't going on in the background, and I can't power off the tv and run the sound. so I'd say about half of that is the time my screen was actually on.
@@BlueThundah75 Lol that's crazy. I racked up 2400 hours in 9 months and I thought my usage was too heavy. I would really like to get at least 7 years out of my CX.
Im totally fine with my 65" Qled and its local dimming since 1 year. I dont wanted to buy a black mirror for my living room. Dont understand this qled bashing.
Because people have a bias for OLED. QLEDS are bright and can show highlights better. Highlights are more than just small stars or small areas of the screen. Highlights can be the brightness of the sun on the screen which a QLED represents better especially in hdr. Ever time reviewers talk about OLED they talk about black levels, but OLED are bad with brightness which makes colors and vividness in color saturation because they are dim.
QLED vs OLED is like the painter saying:" Everyday I practice my picture comes closer and closer to resemble Mona Lisa! I think that I shall make it some day"!;-) There is nothing comparable to an OLED! Like there is nothing comparable to a "Mona Lisa"!
I have my LG CX for over 2 years now, this thing is on like 8 to 10 hours a day no problem here with burnin. I game, watch tv and use it as my monitor for my pc. The burnin problem is non existend, the tv gives you plenty of options that does not happen.
Now If i may ask, what games do u play? And does it have fixed content like minecraft or the map or anything that stand always? Did u play one game for a whole day in the 8-10 hours and nothing happend? And sorry for asking too much but i will work to get that much money so im little scared and ty
@@luaie5896 I play mostly playstation games and they have fixed content, i play like 3 to four hours when im gaming. I also wach youtube a lot and that has a fixed red youtube logo. Like i said after 2 years not a single problem.
The mini-led QLEDs are a pretty great compromise. i have a TCL series 6 that’s only a small step down in quality from my buddy’s OLED for about half the price. I also had a TCL Series 5 QLED (no mini led) and it was a big step down in quality - not worth the savings imo
I just purchased a Samsung qled after having a Samsung 7000 series from 5 years ago. The difference is un real. Sometimes when I watch a movie, the picture just looks fake it's so good. I like that qled is brighter and I don't have to worry about burn in. The thickness doesn't bother me as mine isn't wall mounted.
You are right!the picture in Samsung tv is unreal/fake.Nowhere close to what you see where you are going for a walk. I was always thinking that the good picture quality is when is the closest to the humans eye.For now only Sony has managed to get the closest 🤞
QLED is great for brightness and vibrancy but that's it. Mini LED is actually a better LCD technology in my opinion, as it has less blooming and better colour accuracy. However, nothing beats OLED in terms of contrast and sense of realism, especially in darker scenes or anything below 500 nits. It gives a truer representation of the original source which is why professionals generally chose it over other TVs.
Well, it depends. I dont agree with that one. I think oled has a better image quality but that doesn't make it superior. Qled is perfect for gaming and the sun never distorts your image. And besides that, things like no burn in makes it possible to have Ambient mode 24/7 on if u would like to. And the premium qled tv's have superior speakers compared to oled thin screens Where's there no room for that. So at the end it really depends on your situation and your needs, none of them is superior
@edzkar73 Well, I would say oled is better for movies. For gaming qled just wins. Have fun worrying about burn ins while playing a game for a long time with static content like an ammo counter etc
I can't take this comparison seriously when he's comparing a top-tier OLED to a TCL as opposed to the top tier Samsung
So true
@@nr.1176 feel the same about your opinion. Even the well thought out ones
@@HolisticHunt even more true
You obviously have not seen the picture quality of the TCL 8 Series. It's not as good a picture of OLED but about 90% to 95% there. Definitely QLED quality.
The differences are inherent to the technique though, no matter if its samsung or tcl, qled remains a glorified va panel
Got a 65-inch LG OLED specifically for occasional evening movies. I knew the requirements for dim lighting, and in that environment it's just brilliant. The only thing I regretted later was not getting the 75-inch panel :)
I use a 55 LG OLED for 2 years now. I'm satisfied with it; bought it with some discount at the time and use it mainly as an all-in-one. I use it as pc screen, game on it and watch movies. I know that the only negative is the burn-in, but to prevent that I don't really put my brightness that high. Usually at 40-45, which in the evening can still be very bright. Maybe it's not a positive when watching GOT season 8... but who wants to rewatch that garbage anyway. As for most movies, I tend to watch the older classic quality stuff instead of the garbage that Hollywood is turning out for the past 5 years.
although the next size is 77inch
I feel your pain, but the 77 inch was not available when I bought the 65. Now I own both the 65 and the 77 inch and the 77 inch is AWESOME.
@@stijnvdv2 sounds more like movie complaining than TV rating
dont buy QLED lmfao garbage, technology is gonna die in 1-2 years l0l
I own both the 65" and the 77" LG OLED sets. My personal make or break decision came down to not only the black level, but especially the viewing angles. Both technologies have an outstanding picture when you view directly from the front, but make sure you are comfortable with the black levels & viewing angles vs. the price before you buy. And for you gamers, I set up the "instant response" game port on the LG 77" to an HP OMEN 45L with GeForce RTX 3080 and run MS Flight Sim 2020 at 4K resolution with no jitters. Flying the MSFS 2020 / TOP GUN / F-18 low level challenges are truly amazing on this configuration.
how do i enable instant responce? I got the lg c2
I have heard on one review that the black levels on the Samsung S95B are better than the LG C2 & G2 ?
@@breaker1685 It's the same panel, LG makes them and sells them to Samsung.
@@huhdidwhat I think for the S95B Samsung they made their own panels - although Samsung have used LG panels prior to this on some models
Having multiple of both LGs OLED and Samsung's QLED, I am all-in on Samsung QLED.
1) Costs less
2) OLED has burn-in, despite their lies that it doesn't. This alone is a show stopper for me. Very noticeable, very annoying.
3) I have Samsung TVs outside. One was on a mobile stand and got hit by a large amount of rain because I failed to put it somewhere safe. Thought it was toast. Right after, it looked like washed out mountains from water in the layers of the screen. However, within weeks of use it just faded back out completely. Years later, still going strong.
4) Warranty. I always buy the extended warranty (4 or 5 years). Samsung has always honored it, no questions. LG refused to fix the TV with burn in it claims can't happen.
5) Samsung's are much better in bright light.
Will never buy an LG again.
Samsung's aren't brighter, QLED is. OLED is superior in every way beside brightness. Whether it's Samsung or LG's OLED. QD-OLED from Samsung is getting almost as bright as QLED now though.
QLED is cheaper and brighter. If your TV is not going in an extremely bright room and you have enough money / want the best, then OLED is always superior. The viewing angels and colours are just amazing. I myself would go for Sony's OLED but all 3 (LG, Samsung and Sony) make amazing TV's.
@Max007 LOL. QLED may be brighter, but it is far from cheaper. It also fails far, far easier. Period. LG alao sucks in warranty. No comparison. Period. Take it to the bank.
@@trevorwesterdahl6245 QLED is way cheaper :) Idk if you have this thing called Google, but if you do, you could just check it out yourself. OLED is, definitely on the smaller models, close to 100% more expensive.
Cheapest QLED at best buy is around 350$ and the same size in OLED starts at about a 900$. For bigger sizes the difference is less.
OLED does fail easier but it's not like the old days anymore. I have 2 OLED panels which have no signs of burn-in whatsoever after 4 years.
LG having bad warranty has nothing to do with a QLED vs OLED comparison.
@@maxjames00077 Now you compare tiny, not mentioned, TVs. I have been referiing to 65" or larger LG OLED vs Samsumg QLED. LG is charging MUCH more for their OLED. Won't buy LG again. Period.
@@maxjames00077 Sorry, read my comment more closely... It was a typo to say QLED. My comment was about OLED (the version that sucks and costs more).
Baseline -
OLED: If have Budget and low Sunlight coming-in
QLED: If you're low on budget or having huge sunlight coming
Kinda except good QLEDs cost the same of OLEDs.
Samsungs mini led QLED models cost the same as LGs oleds.
I got one myself and am pretty happy with it. The black levels are pretty good and it can get really bright
@@twennywonn Only if you mean "good QLED" to only mean Neo QLED, which is so dumb when we see what amazing technology even budget QLEDs can have, such as the 2020/2021 TCL Class 5 and Class 6 series which both have full array backlighting, local dimming (true blacks), Dolby Vision, and mini-LED for the Class 6 Series, as well as still having amazing colors compared to most TVs in the last 5 years except OLED. And the Class 5 Series is only around $500 for a 50" (I personally got it on sale for $430), meaning you can get great technology and excellent features at a really low cost. And it's not just for people on a low budget either, if someone wants a ~75" TV and is considering QLED and OLED, a 77" LG C1 as compared to a 75" TCL Class 6 Series mini-LED is $2900 vs $1300 (USD, going off of the current sale prices on Best Buy for both TVs), or literally less than half the price, and the TCL still has better brightness on account of the mini-LED, over a 200 nit advantage in terms of max brightness. And if someone has a strict budget of $2000, which isn't that unreasonable for a working-class individual, then if they went OLED they'd be sacrificing a lot of screen real estate compared to a similarly priced QLED which is generally going to have around 20" on it. I will agree that Neo QLED is so close to OLED in price that it makes it not worth it in 90% of instances, but don't sleep on these excellent budget QLEDs with amazing tech, they can make a great option for a lot of people such as myself
@@burnoutcollectivist4660 I stopped reading when I saw TCL.They do make great value TVs but just not great TVs IMO. But you do you man be happy with what you have.
@@twennywonn I dunno why you would respond to a comment you didn't read, but you do you, your time is your own lol
If you get a QLED, make sure it has FULL ARRAY local dimming. (Not edge-lit) Helps with the contrast ratio.
Solid advice.
@@jon4lakers That's something you should've mentioned in the video don't you think? 🤔
I was trying to explain that to a customer but he said the q70a was good enough smh. I can usually guarantee a sale on a full array like a q80 or an x90 but man this guy was stubborn
@@doctorfresh3856 Was that a thing in January 2022 tho?
@@Jokamutta Been a thing for years.
I got the LG C2 42 inch for my desktop PC which also doubles as bedroom TV...couldn't be happier. Best display I've ever bought.
Just got my Lg c1 65 yesterday delivered and I’m so happy with it , can’t complain.👍👍👍
QLEDS can get close to OLEDs when it comes to black levels especially with a good local dimming algorithm. But OLEDs can't even get near the level of brightness a QLED can hit. I'll take the picture which can show me a brighter highlights over "perfect blacks".
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I agree
So, that's the main difference? Thanks! Saved me quite a few minutes
And to confuse things… there will be new TVs this year with Quantum Dot OLED panels.
Nice video. I just got a 65” LG C1 and I’m pretty happy with it.
Me too. Its great!
Same here man, my picture setting is standard I don’t want to over work it and burn out the pixels
@@marentes133
Adjusting the picture settings shouldn't damage the pixels
This is a tv im going to get when the c2 drops so I can get at a better price or during the holidays this year
@@bignbad47I got a C1 but I’m def considering getting the C2 come Black Friday stuff. The C1 is perfection only negative I have is lack of brightness. The Evo panels of the c2 should solve some of those issues tho.
My Samsung q9fn still looks great! I enjoy every moment with ps5! No burn in risk. Great black. Great colors. Great brightness!
I have the GQ65QN90A and in combination with the PS5 it's just awesome
Been watching since the techno buffalo days but lost track of your channel over the years today I saw a friendly face and decided to stop by. Glad your still doing well Jon, take care.
I've had an LG OLED since 2017. I've had the panel replaced 3 years into it for significant burn-in. I understand that they are addressing that issue still and I honestly don't trust they've solved it from all I've researched. The TV is now in need of yet another new panel and as it's out of warranty (LG will honor one panel replacement out-of-warranty apparently). I'm not convinced the issue is solved. Therefore, I personally would NOT recommend an OLED until they solve the problem.
Would you say QLED is a big jump from regular LED?
I got my LG OLED in 2018 and haven't experienced any burn-in. I use it as a monitor for work and play. I figured I'd have some burnt-in taskbars by now, so I guess I'm fortunate. Honestly, I'd still go for another OLED at this point. The perfect blacks I can't give up! Also my friend's Qled artifacts like crazy in dimly lit scenes of movies and UA-cam vids. I simply just ask how he lives with this lol, a few extra years of TV life when it looks like ass the entire time is beyond me.
@@Nahinalau Do you know what brand Qled it was? I’ve been thinking about getting the TCL R656 myself.
@Ugo Ewulonu sure man. I'm hanging with him tonight ill get you that in a couple hours
@@Nahinalau 👍🏾
It is refreshing to find such unbiased and easily understood advice. Thanks
this is from tcl. a bit dont dismiss it all. actually pretty basic advice, with mild propaganda but do liststen to the basic facts.
It’s pretty biased
unbiased?? he is comparing a top tier OLED to a TCL instead of a top tier QLED like Samsung
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Your outro about loving whatever we wind up getting was really reassuring lol thanks. Great video
Great video! I work in home theater at Best Buy and talk about this stuff all the time!
Thanks for this, now based on the positioning of my TV and the sunlight that I get I am able to conclude on QLED
Did the same. Got an OLED for my bedroom and a QLED for my sunny living room
I think it depends on where you are using the TV. If you are using in a bright room with natural light a QLED in that room is probably a better choice. OLED is stunning in a darker room with colors that can really pop against the true black. I bought my first LG OLED (55") back in 2016. I have since added a 65" LG OLED CX for the living room TV and a 65" C2 series LG OLED EVO as a computer/XBOX Series X screen. Burn in basically a non issue unless you play a game with a static images on the screen or TV channels with static images or a constant runner (think the bottom of screen on a news channel that has a stream of info scrolling across the screen). After owing an OLED now for 6 years (I still use the 55" LG OLED) I have 1 stuck/dead pixel and none of the burn in.
I'm thinking about getting the C2.
I play games daily, and the LG OLED gaming features caught my interest.
I am worried about burn in. As games have static things on screen at all times. Healthbars, HUD, etc.
I hear mixed messages. Some say it's a non-issue these days. Other say they got burn in withing 3 months. So...
I figure I should be fine. As I play many different games, and usually only for a couple hours a day. With the TV not in use the rest of the time.
But I'm still reluctant. I don't want that constant nagging worry in the back of my mind. That every time the TV is on the pixels are slowly dying and running out of their limited lifespan. So I'm torn.
If it lasts long enough I won't have a problem. I would hope for around 5 years. I guess they also have a warranty against burn in for that long...
I dunno, I'm conflicted.
@@sawdust8691 Those burn ins must be some old TV or something. C1 improved the heat dissipation from thr CX models, I'd assume the C2 is better. I play on my CX everyday, even on games with long standing HUDs like Cyberpunk, Super Smash, or Splatoon didn't burn anything in so I don't think it's a concern
@@RaigonZelo ya... it's probably fine.
I'll keep an eye on the prices. It's the time of year where they drop the lowest.
I saw a while ago it was around 1700 for a 55in. C2, which is my preferred size for the room.
It's already dropped to 1300. And still dropping. So I'll keep an eye out.
The burn-in on my LGs is horrific. A major issue. LG refused to do anything. Samsung's have no burn in. Samsung honors their warranty. LG does not. Will never buy an LG again. FYI: I have multiple TVs for a sports bar setting. Leave up an image that has, say an ESPN logo in same spot, it burns in badly. Horrifically. No thanks. If you just watch movies/TV shows, you are probably fine. FYI: the Samsung's have been outdoors for years. Only had one issue where I accidentally let one get rain soaked. Looked like washed out mountains. Self-healed in days. Samsung's are just durable, cost less, honor their warranty, and I never had one person say the LG image looked better. In bright light, the Samsung's are better. Everyone notices.
Also FYI: All my TVs are 64" or larger.
I just got a 55” Samsung Tizen 4K QLED Smart TV for my bedroom, and holy shite man, I’ve never been more blown away by a tv, especially at that size.
I have a 65” 4K curved screen in my living room, and have been so compelled to switch the two sometimes haha, but that’s an older model, but still a gorgeous tv.
But just for use in my room with watching light tv and movies before bed, or playing some Xbox in bed when I don’t feel like getting out of it, I could stare at that QLED aaalllll day man.
Samsung Qleds are elite, I have had an Oled LG and a Qled Samsung still as of today I’m taking Samsung’s Qled all day everyday they have perfected their pictures through Qled for so many years that it’s just superior in my opinion. Now on the flip side Oled yes has deeper black coloring and a more organic look but like the burn it defect I had left my tv on overnight and my Xbox dashboard was burnt into my screen for the whole entire next 3-4 days and even after that if you got close enough you could still see it ever since then I’ve just been scared from spending extra money on a tv that I have to be careful with and set timers for watch times so it wouldn’t burn in. But overall Samsung Qled can never go wrong with.
Yeah. Many gamers advised me to choose a QLED over OLED cause of "burn in" and I didn't wanna deal with the constant anxiety and waste 1k
This comment helps alot!! Im a gamer and i was stuck on oled or QLed but because of the burn im going Qled
I love your video on this subject! I am a retail worker specializing on TV's, and your's is the first video that truly speaks the facts objectively. Good job bro, got me subbed. I own an LG Oled myself B16 series
Thanks for this. I'll be getting a QLED tv this time around.
I have an OLED now, but it isn't great for gaming in my opinion due to the constant burn ins I get.
What ended up being better bro?
I'm not spending +$1k. I recently bought a hisense u7k for $550 and it it's a massive improvement to the current tv I have.
First off all, a neo qled actually has a lot of advantages, and for a brighter room, a qled will outperform an oled everytime.
And a top tier qled is just like an oled to the naked eye, i have had both and ofcourse both are great. But with my bright living room the qled performs way better during the day
Your opinion make sense, qled are generally easier to adapt to living rooms, as they are generally bright rooms in any house, but the new QD-OLED / MLA technology OLEDs, have to say really come close to brightness to top tier QLED making everyone question if QLED does still make sense at this point (if we don’t factor the burn in issue), microled will come might be the next big thing
It is truly amazing how good these TVs picture looks on my phone
I went to the store to buy a Samsung 8K QLED, but left with a 4K LG G1 OLED and couldn’t be happier. The picture side by side was so much more impressive on the LG. The Samsung upscaling wasn’t great, maybe I’ll look again in a couple of years.
Just ordered a G1. Looking forward to gaming on it, upgrading from a 2016 Sony xbr 4K tv
Good luck with the burn in 1-2 years down the line.
8K TV way to earlier
Smart decision. 8K is purely a marketing gimmick to get people to spend more money. There's virtually no 8K content right now anyway.
Hell yeah, I got the LG G1 EVO and my Xbox Series X and PS5 look great on it!
Bought a 65” LG OLED in 2020 for £1800 and it lasted just over 6months before I started having issues and is now long dead. Bought a 55” Samsung QLED in 2022 for downstairs and loved the features and picture quality, which made me replace the broken LG OLED with a 75” Samsung QLED and I love it.. yeah the black isn’t as black but I absolutely love it and will probably never buy a LG to again.
I don't think Samsung is committed to QLED since they are switching production over to QD-OLED 2022 :^) Your info is about one year out of date
Just bought a Samsung QLED 65" 80A panel for $730 + tax usd with a two year warranty from MicroCenter. Samsung warranty is nearly worthless. Dealing with a local store is much easier, if something goes belly up.
Liked it so much, I bought the 75" version for my mom's living room.
$840usd at MicroCenter
Picked up a 65” a80j from sony and i have zero complaints. Qled just didnt have what i cared for which was near perfect black levels. I would recommend a qled all day though.
Does this play all video formats through usb port?
I bought the 65 and my only complaint was that I didn’t purchase the 77… well the 77 will arrive next Saturday. I’m freaking excited
@@user-oj8ss4zq3x how do you like it?
@@Dmahmoud17 it was definitely nice but I ended up returning it because my wife wanted a brighter tv so I ended up getting the qn 85b 85in. I know it has its short comings but overall its a great tv
Your final thoughts is brilliant, no hype no BS just a simple you'll love whatever TV you get. Thanks man helped me out and others out, cheers
I bought two Sony 55in OLED TVs just over two years ago. The backlit went out on both of them. The cost to repair them was ridiculous and it made more sense to buy a new TV. I bought the Samsung 55in Class QLED 4K UHD. The picture on the new Samsung TV looks a lot better than my previous Sony TVs. From my understanding QLED TV's last a lot longer than OLED.
Must have had those special oled's that are backlit.
@@thequiet1374 Lmao 😂
My tv is from 2008. Finally getting ready to upgrade. I needed this video. Ty!
Congratulations! I can't get a tv to last me more then 2 years it's pathetic
No one seems to mention the best tv depends on your watching habits. If you watch UA-cam,etc you will eventually have burn in and image screen retention with the lg oled. After 5 years my C7 had image retention and the colors were shot. Pink was purple/orange was green. Peoples skin color looked horrid. I went with a nano cell this time around. I cant see buying a new oled every 5 years. My plasma lasted 15.
technology has increased a lot since your C7
@@sgrulido ok..u spend the 1000...use the tv for youtube and other streaming.
My colors were also totaly off after 5 years.
Get back to me in 5 years and let me know how u make out.
The tech isn't even 10 years old yet. When pink shows up as purple, orange looks like green...and reg tv everyone looks yellow 5 years after purchase ?
New....its was best pic money could buy...5 years later its not worth viewing and junk!
My 480's lasted 20 years...my plasma 15 with barely any color loss.
Oled...less than 5 years.
Don't know about everybody else. But most don't have 1400 to throw away every 5 years.
I went nano cell this time..half the money
@@z74birdman not sure everyone spends 8000+ hours in front of a TV
@@z74birdman What is your phone screen? Most smartphones use oleds for years now with a lot of static elemets and there are no issues so there is no reason to think burn-in or color fringing is an issue if the technology gets sufficiently advanced.
If you watch a lot of TV or leave the TV on for long hours daily, you should be aware that OLED TVs dim overtime with useage. Today's TVs are built to last about 5 to 8 years, and with technology's fast pace movement, you will likely need to replace your TV by then. A good reason not to overspend on your TV.
I wonder what the split would be if an LG OLED would be pitched against a new QDLED. I just bought an 85” QDLED two days ago and the picture is just perfect, and substantially cheaper than OLED.
@@rockyj5047 well I can say from own experience that Qled blacks are black AF. The blackest blacks are largely due to the mini-leds dimming though, which works real real well but when it dims when it shouldn’t you see behind the magic.
@@rockyj5047 no, the QD OLEDs will have exactly the same black levels as both are self lit. The only thing that can make a QD OLED look worse is a too aggressive anti glare layer. The QD OLED display technology is an improvement over traditional OLED in every aspect
@@rockyj5047 so what was I wrong about? Do you even know how QD works?
@@rockyj5047QD OLED is a type of OLED. The S95B or the A95K for instance have deep blacks like any other OLED TVs.
QDLED=QLED. Redundancy is redundant.
i have Phillips Oled,enough brightness on standard mode,10 hours a day on,no burns ,for two years now,no issues at all-great picture,honestly
Just bought the Samsung Q90A , can’t wait to use it !
I'm sorry for your loss. (Your money) buying samsung products is like going to a near by trash can picking out some trash and paying for it
Many phones are OLED, and my phone I had for many years and I have zero burn in. Even with the same wallpaper for 5 years.
Just turn on faster sleep mode settings, don't watch cable or anything that has static content. Always change it up. Switch tabs and things you do. Sounds to me burn in is very preventable, but I don't have an OLED TV (yet).
I was surprised you didn't even mention Samsungs QD-OLED tech that is coming this year which promises both brighter and more colorful OLED than LG.
And it’s also gonna be ridiculously expensive and out of consideration for most consumers
What’s the point of discussing TVs that are not yet in production?
@@justsaying993 $3,000 for a 55 inch and $4,000 for a 65 inch isn't "ridiculously expensive" considering the new tech involved.
Most people expected it to be close to $8,000-$10,000.
Also, the A95K isn't targeted at average consumers to begin with. The TV is aimed at Videophiles.
Samsung have a tendency to promise a lot over LG but is very hit or miss at delivering.
The amount of Samsung 8K TVs returned to my store this year has been incredible to see. Based on that I would advice being very cautious when buying into Samsungs new QD-OLED TVs when they drop. Fingers crossed they can pull it off.
@@MR_K-RO why the returns?
An aesthetic consideration for some: an OLED screen when off is essentially a large black mirror
My 5 year old OLED out performs my new U8G in every way apary from brightness which honestly is a waste of time if it greys put. So OLED for the win!!
I have a LG 97" G2 4K HDR Smart OLED evo TV With AI ThinQ and I love it very much, not much of an issues here.
I bought a LG C1 for my living room but it really struggled during the day when my balcony window provided a lot of indirect sunlight. Bought a Samsung QN90B for the living room and moved the C1 to my darker bedroom where it’s a perfect fit now. OLED for gaming, PC and cinema. QLED for general purpose viewing and bright environments.
THnaks for sharing , I am going to buy c1 for me living room too , but not sure about it too
@@starsbridge5115 my QLED had issues. Returned and got a C1.
@@FayyaazAhmed so to you think the brightness is enough ? Thanks for your time
Thank you for posting this helpful video
Just to say qled and qd display are two different thing qled puts the quantum dot in the backlight to get high purity blue light so the color converting layer can achieve better color qd display aka qd-oled uses the quantum dots as the color converting layer it’s self or in front of the backlight to make the rgb sub pixels
I do know that the OLED tv's in the store hypnotize me. The black is stunning.
Thanks for the information. This video really is helpful for me to know the differences. From differing between the quality and the usage of the type of TV, as well as knowing what environment is best to use for either of the TVs, this video was the best I have seen so far!
So fun fact. QLED is a trademark of Samsung. It’s their brand of Quantum Dot technology. Anytime you see a non-Samsung TV with the QLED logo / name on it, it’s a dead giveaway that the TV has a Samsung made panel in it.
My 2017 Samsung 65 inch QLED still looks great. Has light bleed from the very sides, but the image and color still looks so good it's not even noticeable. I recently got an Aorus AO48U OLED monitor, and they both look great and have their own advantages. Makes it hard to upgrade, even with the light bleed on the QLED.
I have Samsungs 55 inch ks9500. its edge lit with slight bleed on the right bottom screen but its a FANTASTIC tv. I am curious If I should go with an lg oled 65 inch or Samsungs new 8k tvs that are now center lit
@@em1ownerify Dont go 8k, it aint worth it now.
@@spartacuscreator ya but the 8k Samsung is almost future proofing yourself. When I bought my ka9500 2017 Samsung 4K was not really offered as much through app providers. Now they are and so are my gaming systems
@@em1ownerify Yes, YOUR gaming systems. Most of the gaming systems aren't even close and you're talking about 8K already. You think in 5 years 8K will push through if 4K even isn't that regular, ESPECIALLY in gaming.
@@em1ownerify Nah it’s honestly a waste of money. You would be paying way extra for a feature that can’t be utilized properly yet, and by the time it can be, there will be better TVs in the market that cost half the money of the one you bought. Happened to me back in 2014 when 4K TVs had just hit the market. But at the end of the day, do what makes you happy.
Precise conclusion, helped me conclude with QLED (Neo LED probably)!
I chose QLED over OLED because I mainly use my tv connected to my laptop and since burn in is still a thing with OLED, and I don't want to have to worry about that. I don't want my browser to be burned in. I never regretted the decision.
What the heck is burn in ?
Same. I got a QLED over an OLED cause I hear it's generally not good for gaming due to burn in issues.
@@hitokiribattousai7703 how do you like it so far . I’m trying to get a 60 inch real soon .
@@richardwalker6004 so burn in is like u see a picture of a flower for a long time and after a long time when ur watching Netflix u see the flower photo under it, its very annoying i have it in my phone when i set my phone to a White screen i see my UA-cam start screen burnt in the screen. So its always there forever
@@Niick_18 thank you . I’m getting my 1st qled ever so I know it’s going to be a upgrade.
I have an inexpensive 55" TCL QLED, I am seeing the dreaded "blooming" effect, but guess what? It's not that bad. It's a very slight effect that only happens occasionally, and I wouldn't pay quadruple the price for a TV that doesn't have any bloom whatsoever. The image quality you get for a decent QLED is absolutely fantastic. In my opinion you should just pocket the rest of the money.
Viewing angles are a different story. Luckily, my living room is only setup for one couch facing the TV, so it's not a big deal, but yes, the off axis viewing angles do look bad. If you need great viewing angles, be sure to read up on that, and you might have to pay more either for a higher end QLED or an OLED.
shouldve waited and go the ONN qled premuim model for around the same price its a better brand
@@phillipallen5564 I don't think waiting is necessary in the low-mid TV segment. There's nothing revolutionary right around the corner at that price, things are just gradually getting better. I would advise most people to just buy a TV when they're ready.
I bought a LG C2 55” 6 months ago and so far me and my roommates love it! I was worried about it being dim and not bright enough but it’s been perfect.
My only main issue with the TV is WebOS. I’m just not a big fan of how laggy/unresponsive it can be sometimes so I recommend an Apple TV or a Roku.
If you use an Apple TV / roku streaming device, can that web-os stuff be completely ignored? Or does it still get in the way when navigating menus?
@@jakej722 I only use the Apple TV so I never have to switch the input, and the Apple TV can control volume and power so I don’t even have the LG TV remote out because it’s pointless in my application.
Excellent work, thank you sir
Brilliant. Really helpful, really well presented and a perfect summary. Thank you !
7 minutes in and this is already a really well balanced review -thank u!
Appreciate you.
I bought a Samsung 65" Q80 QLED, and I love it. The cost difference for a comparable OLED just wasn't worth it.
This is what I’m thinking, as much as the oled sounds better in certain ways I game far too much to risk burn in
It’s absolutely worth the price difference.
@@bobsucks9647 There is so little risk of burn-in. People make it sound much more prevalent than it is. It used to be a real issue. Now you have to absolutely abuse the TV to get it, unless you just get a bad panel, which can happen. OLEDs have several features now that help minimize the risk. My LG C2 has a setting that slightly shifts the image over time (which is impossible to notice unless you maybe do a time lapse video with a camera). It also runs a pixel refresh when the TV is turned off, after every 4 hours of accumulated watch time. Then there’s the logo dimmer. When the TV sees a logo sitting in the same spot, such as on a channel like Fox, it can dim it. As well as other features. Don’t let people scare you away. OLED is far better.
@@frostyone182 really depends on how much of a couch potato one is
Thank you I was going to buy a TV for my room and I just saw your video while scrolling trying to find the right TV and I think im definately going for OLED
OLED is a bit kick in the face with colors as QLED is more realistic and subtle.
I just bought a 65” Samsung QN90A from Best Buy on sale. It sits in a bright room and it has blown me away. The picture is incredible!
The main reason for "burn in" on OLEDs is their horrible factory calibration with white balance. Which directly effects how much light the white LEDs are emitting. For example LG commonly has the color temperature of their LEDs from the factory set to 20k to 30k kelvin. With the white balance set as low as it can go. You are going to be at a less psychotic 5.8k to 6k kelvin. That's within the normal range for LEDs to operate.
I had a TCL QLED that was awesome. Streaming 4k, youtube, xbox one s, it was a wonderful time. Very nice black, good colors and 60 hz does not bothered my anyway. Important, never use the TV with out of the box configuration. I felt in love by android tv. I have to move, my life changed a lot. Now I have a Hisense 1080 32", ordinary LED, that´s the way.... LOL.
You also forgot to mention that OLED is prone to discoloration over time with the burn ins. Every OLED device I've ever owned from TVs to phones have those same exact issues. I'm moving on to QLED. I need my TV to last longer than a couple of years
Never had that with any product, got plenty of oled screens in the house. Also, on newer oled products, there are built in safety procedures to prevent such a thing from happening
@@TimecraftGamingSjors the OLED I purchased in 2017 has the same exact features today. Pixel refreshing nonsense just makes the screen darker. Doesn't fix the retention. Doesn't fix the discoloration. You can keep buying that garbage all you want. No one is paying me to say this. I DC what you think. I know my experience with them
@4K 60FPS if oled didn't have those two issues I mentioned then nothing could beat the image quality. QLED would be second place
I am a poor man here in the phils. I am still using sony tv 1985. My aunt bought it in USA when she retired 1996. Still working. Made in japan. Repaired 3 times. I never complain.
Pretty happy with my OLED LG. LG even has an extensive free programming choices powered by Pluto TV and Crackle. Of course, my old TV was a 2008 720p Sony Bravia, so when I got the LG OLED working it was stunning in its clarity. Fortunately, I have relatively high internet speed. Kind of a requirement to pick up NFL and ESPN games live and get high quality video.
That’s sad, as I live on a village and don’t have optical fiber, to speed up the connection. The quality of movies from vod platforms literally sucks🥲
Dude I did the same thing. Upgraded from a 2000’s Sony Bravia to a brand new 55’ LG C2 Evo! Looks great and I’m happy I made the switch
How’s the burn in?
@@jackbaggaley8836 I haven't seen any. The TV goes to black pretty quick, like in 10-15 seconds of idle pausing or stopped video. Also has a pixel "cleaner" phase that resets any burn in.
“Quantum” does not mean “tiny” for quantum dots. It’s the fact that quantum dots emit light using quantum mechanics. They are not LEDs. The layer of “tiny dots” you are referring to are excited by the blue light and actually emit various wavelengths (color) of light depending upon their size. Just a clarification since they are very different from “LEDs”
Nothing beats Oled and now they can almost get as bright ass Qled sooo pretty much game over.
Almost? Nowhere near as bright
@@andrew72329 its pretty bright enough. QLed is trashy blacks. No amount of brightness is going to save the picture quality.
@@thomasfischer9259 it depends. If your room is pretty bright youd be better off with a qled. Oled offers a better picture overall but Qled has its followers too, myself included.
@@thomasfischer9259 go check out the qn90b QLED.it beats any OLED right now
@@truthx7 shut up samsung
My 60 inch RCA 4k 60hz TV I bought used for $200 looks great to me.
Nice to know that you're removing comments about NFTs...
Please read up on the dangers and risks of NFTs.
I have had an Oled tv since 2017. Never had burn-in issues.
I have OLED and QLED and i love them both. But OLED is best for gaming to me, and as for movies and tv shows though it's both OLED and QLED. But i'm excited for MicroLED but it's gonna be years until its affordable for us.
Do you play with consoles or PC?
OLED is the worst display for gaming
@@cqllel5186 Why? I haven't had any problems when it came to burn in.
@@DedricSilva You haven't had any problems when it came to burn in *Yet
@@cqllel5186 its been 2 years since ive bought my lg cx oled and ive used it for gaming, movies, pc monitor and left it on all the time. No burn in. After a few months of owning an oled, you stop caring about burn in cause its so insignificant
Burn in is still very much an issue. I’ve got a LG CX less than 3 years old with burning in from Minecraft. The red hearts are visible on any red background. I heard the same in 2020 “burn in isn’t much of an issue”. I promise you it is. It’s got me looking at mini LED this year.
My last 3 tv's were OLED, my new Samsung 8K neo Qled beats them into the ground. I love it more than I can say. I probably wouldn't buy another OLED at any rate, the last one got a big green blotch in the center in under 2 years, turns out that's a pretty common occurrence, the tv overheats the OLED cells in the center and blotches the tv, but NOBODY tells you about that when you're looking to buy.
So Q leads the way?
@@youlittlerocket That's my opinion. I know a lot of diehard OLED fans would disagree. Here's the thing for me, yes OLED can get slightly better blacks, but QLED can get WAAAYYY better color range overall and so far, no green blotches
@@traviswanamaker988Have they improved LCD black levels so much that it's only a little worse than OLED? OLED has literally infinitely better black levels than my monitor. Maybe they use a VA screen, which has other problems. Or they use local dimming, but don't you see some blooming around bright images that don't perfectly align with the LEDs?
@@NaudVanDalen not on an 8k qned, it doesnt bloom at all. my old lcd tv's yes, blooming was awful. qn900a is tv perfection tho
@@traviswanamaker988 Surely it blooms, but you can't see it because it has a lot of LEDs as backlighting. It's not like it has 33 million LEDs though, so there must be a little bit of blooming. Maybe the static contrast is good enough so you don't really see a lot of difference or it has so many LEDs (tens of thousands) that the area that gets lit up is only a few square millimeters.
It does beat buying a new OLED TV every 5 years though. And constantly worrying about burn in. Both my phones have burned in after a few years. OLED TVs should last at least 10 years for the money they cost if my $300 LCD monitor is still working perfectly fine after 8 years. Imagine buying a $1000 OLED monitor every 3 years because of the heavy burn in because of the Windows start bar. At least TVs won't burn in that fast.
Awesome clarity about led 👏👏
OLED is amazing... hands-down.
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What about the possibility of burn in?
@@ugoewulonu4936 The new ones move the pixels of logos around slightly to avoid burn-in. The new OLEDS also have a pixel refresh that can be set.
@@mic7856I bought the tv lg oled55c2
Idk about the screen burning and I'm a little concerned.
@@ugoewulonu4936 There is a very high chance you wrote this comment from a phone with oled screen. You should be able to tell yourself.
@@w04h Phones don’t stay on as long as TVs do, so there’s less chance for burn in to occur.
My 10 year old 46 inch Samsung 1080p is still going strong.
Planning to upgrade to a 75 inch UHD 4K.
Probably will go with 65 inch QLED, Samsung ofcourse.
For my living room.
Someone that has both an oled and a Mini L LED TVI would highly recommend the oled. If you have small children that will be touching it or using it get the qled. Nothing comes close to oled insane how good it looks
I'm torn between the LG OLED 4K, or LG MiniLED 4K.
I can't help to think back when we were watching snowy black and white pictures and adding tin foil or maybe a wire coat hanger to the bunny ear antenna to keep the program from fading out . How far things have come!!
Don't make a mistake! You have to figure it out yourself!
Have owned Samsung and LG and Hisense all 65 inch . All three had issues and had to be returned under warranty under one year and credit refunded because they couldn't get the boards . Now watching TLC 75 5 series 2022 model and works perfect " so far , No issues 👍
Hey, don't ever disrespect me throwing commercials in the middle of the video like your Mike lindell hocking my pillows you heard
Got a "budget" 65" QLED Hisense tv on Black Friday for 700. Considering I have a bright living room and wanted to spend less than 1k I honestly can't complain.
@@laloajuria4678 everyone keeps spending alot of money of 50/42" oleds when in reality it's small and not that bright for a living room. This tv fills up the room with bright bold colours and yes the blacks could be better and that hue of light in the corners does annoy me sometimes but the quality of the picture is stunning none the less
I own a U8G and a B7 OLED, and honestly, OLED is far better in every aspect apart from the brightness which can be used properly due to the greying out of the PIC, but the U8G is still good!!
was it a u7g or u6g?
i just got the TCL 55"4K QLED with a lot of savings if i bought the OLED from the leading brands instead.
coming from 42" 1080p, so happy with my purchase so far.
I bought an LG CX when they just released. and I've got some pretty bad burn in. I turned on all the anti-burn in features, and ran pixel refresher. I love the picture, but I think my next tv will be a Qled.
@@zoopa9988 As of right now, 14782 hours. Pixel refresh helps, and it's not super noticable, but I hate having to baby it at times. I really do love the picture and the response time for gaming. Well, I say it's not super noticable, that's after I ran the hour long pixel refresh every day for the last week. It WAS pretty bad, but now it's just noticible when it's on certain plain color backgrounds, and it's light enough I can ignore it. I'll probably run pixel refresh every day for the next week, and see if I can get it a bit better. I also turned the brightness down from 80 to 60. Also, to look up the hours you've used it, you go to All settings -> Support -> Total power on time
@@BlueThundah75 don't run the pixelrefresher to much, it makes only sense one time after 2000 hours, or if you have problems. It will not be better if you run it everyday.
The tv run a small refresh every 4 hours if you turn your tv into standby. So don't disconnect it from power.
@@BlueThundah75 How do you have 14782 hours? That's 616 days of 24 hour usage.
@@navid617 Yeah, sounds about right, I usually user the power saver option to turn off my screen so music and such still plays while the TV is off, It's hard for me to sleep if something isn't going on in the background, and I can't power off the tv and run the sound. so I'd say about half of that is the time my screen was actually on.
@@BlueThundah75 Lol that's crazy. I racked up 2400 hours in 9 months and I thought my usage was too heavy. I would really like to get at least 7 years out of my CX.
Thank you, you really helped mean lot to make a decision. I'm thinking of buying a large TV to watch the World Cup.
Im totally fine with my 65" Qled and its local dimming since 1 year. I dont wanted to buy a black mirror for my living room. Dont understand this qled bashing.
Because people have a bias for OLED. QLEDS are bright and can show highlights better. Highlights are more than just small stars or small areas of the screen. Highlights can be the brightness of the sun on the screen which a QLED represents better especially in hdr. Ever time reviewers talk about OLED they talk about black levels, but OLED are bad with brightness which makes colors and vividness in color saturation because they are dim.
QLED vs OLED is like the painter saying:" Everyday I practice my picture comes closer and closer to resemble Mona Lisa! I think that I shall make it some day"!;-) There is nothing comparable to an OLED! Like there is nothing comparable to a "Mona Lisa"!
I have my LG CX for over 2 years now, this thing is on like 8 to 10 hours a day no problem here with burnin. I game, watch tv and use it as my monitor for my pc. The burnin problem is non existend, the tv gives you plenty of options that does not happen.
Now If i may ask, what games do u play? And does it have fixed content like minecraft or the map or anything that stand always? Did u play one game for a whole day in the 8-10 hours and nothing happend? And sorry for asking too much but i will work to get that much money so im little scared and ty
@@luaie5896 I play mostly playstation games and they have fixed content, i play like 3 to four hours when im gaming.
I also wach youtube a lot and that has a fixed red youtube logo. Like i said after 2 years not a single problem.
@@SentientIronHeart tysm bro
@@luaie5896 No problem man good luck.
love my lg c1 ❤️ no regrets
The mini-led QLEDs are a pretty great compromise. i have a TCL series 6 that’s only a small step down in quality from my buddy’s OLED for about half the price. I also had a TCL Series 5 QLED (no mini led) and it was a big step down in quality - not worth the savings imo
great job ... nice to have someone like that understands .... Ciao Bello
Thank-you for this review Jon! It answered the questions I had about the real differences between OLED & QLED.
I just purchased a Samsung qled after having a Samsung 7000 series from 5 years ago. The difference is un real. Sometimes when I watch a movie, the picture just looks fake it's so good. I like that qled is brighter and I don't have to worry about burn in. The thickness doesn't bother me as mine isn't wall mounted.
You are right!the picture in Samsung tv is unreal/fake.Nowhere close to what you see where you are going for a walk. I was always thinking that the good picture quality is when is the closest to the humans eye.For now only Sony has managed to get the closest 🤞
QLED is great for brightness and vibrancy but that's it. Mini LED is actually a better LCD technology in my opinion, as it has less blooming and better colour accuracy. However, nothing beats OLED in terms of contrast and sense of realism, especially in darker scenes or anything below 500 nits. It gives a truer representation of the original source which is why professionals generally chose it over other TVs.
MiniLED still has all of these issues. There was a few different reviewer talking about this.
@4K 60FPS yep
Misleading thumbnail picture. High end Qled colors are much brighter and pop more than oled. QN90a for example.
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QLED is great. But OLED is just superior for now.
Well, it depends. I dont agree with that one. I think oled has a better image quality but that doesn't make it superior. Qled is perfect for gaming and the sun never distorts your image. And besides that, things like no burn in makes it possible to have Ambient mode 24/7 on if u would like to. And the premium qled tv's have superior speakers compared to oled thin screens Where's there no room for that.
So at the end it really depends on your situation and your needs, none of them is superior
Says who?
Nah burn in, is a huge draw back
@@User05199 OLED is better for gaming with response time of 1ms,color accuracy,contrast and viewing angle.
@edzkar73 Well, I would say oled is better for movies. For gaming qled just wins. Have fun worrying about burn ins while playing a game for a long time with static content like an ammo counter etc