This video is not fair. Samsung is MAL tweaked. My 2021 Hisense U8G 65” n if not 2 yr old model Samsung QN90A can even out do this setting by right tweak. This tv is def dimmed. It should have 1350 local dimmming. Wtf is this influncer. Last year Sony X95K only has 48 pathetic local dimming. The oLED black crush is like making it 2 D if close up. This video is shot from far away.
@@Zeegoku1007this whole video just something off about it. I have seen the same guy threw HIsense Mini LED under the bus before . I went to store, checked OUT U8H side by side with OLED for over an hr, n played it n compared with Samsung QD OLED S95B. Over all the S95B was WAY surpass any OLED, n funny Hisense U8H was the runner up before OLED . MASSIVELY land slide destroy OLED black crush issue. They awlays shoot the OLED videos from FAR FAR FAR away, so on computer/phone screen we get the zoomed in visual--“more clear more clear”. But everyhing is seen as black /white of course its more “clear” seeming on the phone or computer monitor. In person the black suit in the video is 1 BLACK CHUNK of flat color. Thats what I SAW in store when i was comparing they were playing the movie :Italian job, the matrix . The black suits just look 1 cluster of flat black, there was no texture the dark scen so much black but no depth. N face n lighter color is overly lightened up. Because OLED has issue BRIGHTEN the screen. So its PROGRAMMED to OVERERLY Darken black colors to creat illlusion of Contrast/sharp image. Its well known. Ppl just have eyes shut . This video is no diff than like those --Bounty paper tower commercial. Left the “generic wipe) right the Bountry wipe. --once consumer visuallly sold the --perception,,,its BAKED in. Its called direct marketing sale ….
I did buy the Samsung QLED last year. The LG OLED was twice as much and looked better in the store. I have been very happy with my Samsung. The secret, once you buy, stop comparing. If you like what you have you will have what you like.
I'm sorry, but burn in on a TV after just 4 or 5 years is completely unacceptable, especially considering the cost of them. The vast majority of people cannot just keep replacing their TV every 4 or 5 years. It's the most important issue regarding OLED and you just brush over it with "well, just buy a new one when it happens".
I would be fine after 4 years since I would get one with 5 years of warranty. But if the second one wouldn't last more than 4 years it would be tough to buy again. Hopefully in 8 years technology will have progressed far...
Burn in is the old case bro and mostly occurs for static logo or images. If u stream movies, sports on daily basis u will never face such issues. And now the webOS auto refresh pixel and AI advise u to reboot tv whenever needed.
I love my QLED Samsung for watching movies. Just bought a LG OLED C3 and it's beautiful for gaming. Both TV's have their strengths and I don't think you can go wrong with either tbh.
@@anrivera1975I was wondering about that!! I’ve read reviews on OLED and found that most say they got image burn. I want to get an OLED but it will be used alot for playing music with a still image. Thats where I’m hesitant to buy one because I’m afraid the image will burn in if on for hours. I think I’m just going to go for a QLeD. We play some games on it but nothing crazy. Idk I’m still stuck and been looking at these for a few months now 😅. Hard choice
Three years ago I was shopping for a new TV. I was looking for something in the 75-80 inch realm. When I saw an array of display TVs in the shop, one stood out immediately - the OLED TV. I ended up getting a 65 inch TV for more money than I would have spent for an 80 inch LED, but the picture quality was so much better! Every time I watch something with a lot of dark scenes, I love my TV more - in particular, The Expanse looks absolutely amazing on my screen! I highly recommend spending the extra money, and perhaps taking a smaller screen, to get the amazing picture quality that an OLED TV can provide!
I was the opposite of you, I'd rather have bigger screen than getting smaller OLED. Each to their own, but for me QLED technology has getting more advanced these days where the difference between OLED are negligible. I only notice the difference in picture quality when I'm at the store comparing the TV side by side during dark scene, this kind of test are pretty pointless because you won't have multiple TVs at home playing side by side.
I've got an LG 55" EF950V which is now nine years old and used daily in my living room. Bought in summer 2015. The picture is still superb. No burn in issues at all. No faults at all ever. Never had the back cover removed. It still performs like it was new. Spot on Greyscale. I am a British ex TV engineer (changed to developing software in 1985) and this LG set has brought me much happiness over this nine years. It's always been rubbish on HDR (colours are all wrong and it's insanely dark) but I don't care too much about that. I have another LG C9 65" OLED upstairs which performs superbly, and will be five years old at Christmas time. HDR and Dolby Vision are good that one!
I used to own an OLED tv and no doubt about it the picture was better than a QLED, but the burn-in was a deal breaker for me and many channels today leave their banner up in the corner of the screen and over time the image gets burned in. I watched another YT channel where they did burn in test on the new S95C and LG G3 and after 200 hours they noticed burn in on them. For me it is QLED for a TV you actually watch for many hours.
I’d not even worry about burn in I’ve had my LG C1 for 2 years now and no sign of burn in. Trust me using the tv normal you won’t have to worry about burn in.
I had the same concerns as you before I bought my first OLED. I went with LG as they seem to have the best preventative measures/tech in place. I’ve had two OLED TV’s in my house now - one for three years (no burn in) and one for two years (no burn in). Both see daily use. While the danger is still there, and the panels will slowly get less bright as time goes on, by the time either of those things happen to where it’s noticeable, I’ll have already replaced them.
I just bought a 2000 + NIT QLED for use outdoors on glass roofed deck where the afternoon sun shines straight onto the screen. Its great, clear in direct sunlight and its anti reflective coating works a charm. It was also relatively cheap for a 85 inch screen. Summer evening movies on the deck (10pm sun set) are possible and for the first time, given sport, beer and BBQ just go together better outside, I have my perfect match day set-up. Currently no OLED would match it's performance in this setting regardless of budget and it was cheap. But every other screen in the house is OLED and except for price and super bright environments I see little room for QLEDs going forward. If you have a very bright environment or limited budget and want to super size, don't be put off QLED. You can get a great QLED for £/$ 1k, a great 85" QLED for £/$ 2k. But for everything else, if your budget is £/$ 1k + just look a OLED. For the budget market I think you still get better picture processing out of QLEDs than budget OLEDs today but with the cost of OLED panels dropping they will reach parity very soon.
I owned an LG C8 OLED, and it developed burn-in after 4 years. So it's 100% still an issue. I now have a mini LED TV, which is much better in my bright living room and better at handling reflections. The biggest downside is blooming - i.e., slight halo effect when there's white on black - which is not a thing with OLED TV's. If you can deal with that, then I think mini LED (i.e., QLED) is the way to go. If you don't care about burn-in after 4 or so years, then go with OLED. Neither technology is 100% perfect - that's why there's a choice. It's a matter of determining what's most important to you.
@bobbrossify burn in is definitely still a issue with oled my friend installs tvs and sound systems and he gets calls for oleds getting burn out before the 3 year warranty all the time he says if money not a issue get oled the picture quality is better but long term no
How do we know? The stores set the brightness and contrast levels for great pictures for the ones they want to sell or or given bonuses by the manufacturer and downgrade the others.
Just an observation. When you have the QN95C next to the LG C3 It kind of drives the point home that brighter isn't always better as the Samsung looks washed out compared to the LG.
I have owned an LO OLED for five (5) years now and I can attest to the incredible picture that it provides. HOWEVER, I am GREATLY disappointed about the burn in that this television has incurred since owning it and simply using it for everyday television viewing. Consequently, UNLESS the OLED televisions can overcome this OLED drawback when I shop for areplacement somewhere in time to come, I would look at the top of the line QLED televisions MORE seriously than the OLED televisions.
OLED screens have made advancements for burn in. It used to start happening at around the 700 hour mark. Though, now that they have switch to deuterium instead of hydrogen, it lasts for about 4000-7000 hours before burn in.
@@monkeymagic4600 Tbh, you're better off with an OLED. Samsung will usually replace burnt in panels, and you wont see any burn in for about 4000-7000 hours. Basically, by the time you'll see it, you'll be in the market for a new TV. (This is coming from somebody who has both a QLED and and several OLED screens.
What concerns me more with OLEDs is the screen degradation - the organic components degrade over time. I've seen this on identical tablets using AMOLED displays. One bought 6 mths later than the other on identical settings had a distinctly brighter screen/image. If I'm spending $3000-$4000 on a screen, I want to know its brightness and vibrancy are not going to degrade after 12 mths...
I have been abusing of my LG OLED since 2018 and its still kicking. I watch lots of 4k bluray with excellent HDR and I haven't seen any degradation or burning.
Unless you have a time machine that goes 10+ years into the future to see if this is truly a problem how in the world do you expect to find out if this is truly an issue today? 🙄🙄
@@jeffmattel7867 OLEDs have been around for 10 years... no-one in that time has done any research, testing or comparisons? Even with current technology?
@@jorgeu111 But how would you know the screen vibrancy/intensity had declined or not? It happens gradually over time so you wouldn't notice so much except with a comparison of an identical new screen. I didn't notice it happening with an amoled tablet until it was next to its new version...
@@jamied1579 well, its absolutely likely to have degraded but what I meant to say is that its still impressive and vibrant. I can't see any degradation. I am absolutely satisfied with it. Degradation haven't affected my experience at the 5 years mark.
Gamers probably worry more about burn-in. As a heavy PC Gamer when I was buying my TV a little over 2 years ago it was down to a Samsung Q80 65" and a comparable OLED. I went with the QLED because I was worried about burn-in. I asked a Home Theater guy at Best Buy if it would be worth trading in my QLED for a comparable Mini-LED model. He said not really.
I did have an LG OLED develop a severe case of something. Some sort of burn in. It had a huge green spot develop in the middle of the screen. It was 2 years old and had just gone out of warranty. It is a C8. We still have it in a guest room that rarely gets used. This was right before the pandemic and we went to New Zealand for a couple of weeks and our daughter house sat for us. I believe that she just left the TV on all the time for as a kind of white noise thing. I replaced with a Sony LED. After 2 years with the Sony I find I don’t really miss the OLED as much as I thought I would. We both are retired and typically turn on the TV when we get up for music streamed from our Apple TV. The TV stays on until we go to bed again. Even if we leave the house it stays on for our dogs. Until OLEDs become bulletproof or our use case changes I think that we’ll stick with LED.
Great video, Brandon. I always enjoy your tech videos. This comparison between the two display technologies nails it. After half a year of research I decided to go with an Oled this year and I'm very happy with it. I bought an LG OLED77CS9LA which seems to be only available here in Europe (Germany) and down under in Australia and not in the US. The LG CS ranges between the B2 and C2. Because of the Deuterium Panel of the G1, which is used in the CS, I don't miss brightness in the picture of the tv at all. Before the LG I was using a Samsung GQ 65 Q 70 RGTXZG QLED TV from 2020 with FALD Display, which now does his job in our bedroom. Don't get me wrong, the Samsung is a brilliant TV with punchy colours and a good contrast because of the local dimming. But the cinematic quality of the LG Oled is so much better in so many ways and gives me what I expect from a so called immersive tv experience. In short - the picture quality blew me away. Im not a gamer and I primarily whatch movies and tv series in 4K so burn in wont be an issue and for these needs an Oled fits perfect.
well you are comparing a normal FALD display to an OLED, the Mini-LED displays perform a lot better these days. They certainly won't meet the quality of the OLED until there are significantly more dimming zones with perfect control, but a lot happened in the last three years
There was a time when nothing could beat a German made CRT TV both for styling and picture quality and tech, Blaupunkt, ITT, Saba, Seimens, Graetz, Nordmende etc. along with their Hi fi gear.
@@anthonyxuereb792 word! I had a Grundig 16:9 TV back in 1998. Rock solid, high quality and well built. Unfortunalety those days are far gone. The high production costs, due to taxes here in Germany, raises the price, so they can't compete with the market.
@@MarkusSellmann My goodness how times have changed and we still have our 16:9 Grundig but it no longer responsds, could be the power supply. I have 2 Lowe standing silent.
Problem, at least in my market is that OLED keeps getting more and more expensive - while every other TV seems to still get cheaper. So even though everyone who cares know OLED is the best for picture quality, and more is made and all that jazz, the price goes up. 55" cost the same or more than what 65 did a few years ago. At the same time I can get 85" non OLED TV for a 3rd of the price of 55 OLED
Im in the market for a new TV, after 14 years with my 50in Panasonic, which still looks great. Nothing like todays tv picture, I know, but the reliability is pretty amazing. Honestly, I couldn't some of the differences in picture you were pointing out in the video. Some looked the same at least on UA-cam. Im leaning towards Qled because my room is so bright . Your videos have been very helpful in explaining the differences between the technologies and narrowing down my choice.
Omg absolutely QLED. My 2021 Hisense U8G --VA --1600 peak nit, 370 local dimming. Went FULL Gear d other day spring day 11:30am. I did not want to shut curtain cuz the sun was out the green tree from window. I am on 5 th floor above all trees. Sooooo bright. I did test. TV went up to 100% peak. 1600 nit peak. N STUNNING. Just bright, crisp, stunning glossy elegant. THERE IS NO frigin way…LG C2 like 700 peak nit maybe 780 can do that. Or like 2022 Sony X95K, i believe still crapy around 700 nit peak. I dimmed my 1600 nit TV down to like 45% to get --what is OLED PEAK visual. (I also dimmed black level to make it optimized to be Crisp again). OMG it looked horandous. Wtf it would look like $680-800 TV dim. NO OLED for me, hell no lol. Okay i am talking about 2021 flagship. Ppl bought Samsung S95B, last year…then they can have cake n Eat it too. I if i were anyone i would get Hisense U8K (MINI LED) or Samsung QD-OLED.
@@birdtj82I would recommend OLED. Most QLED tvs have terrible colours. It doesn't compare to the vivid, accurate colours of an OLED. You're only looking at it from one position.
I think we are now at the point where high-end TVs generally have little to no major drawbacks and are all fine as it is. We just have our own preconceived opinions about brands that we generally avoid. Like me, I've had issues with Samsung TVs before so I steer clear away from them while I've had favorable experience with Sony so that's what I prefer now.
My parents had this really expensive 50 inch Samsung TV in their room. And it started to get spots on the screen over time. I couldn't believe it. I was like ya'll spent on this money on this TV and look at it. After that I made a promise to myself i'd never get a Samsung TV and i've stuck to that.
No drawbacks on modern tvs? I want a 4K, 120hz TV for a PS5 and PC monitor but I am worried about burn in of OLED and QLED with the icons on PC. Any tips? I am considering the Samsung S90C or S95C 55", LG G3,
This has to be one of the best and least biased comparisons I've seen so far. I bought a 55" LG CX brand new in 2021 on a massive discount and haven't regretted it for a single second. If a person considers themselves to be a videophile and can afford even just an entry-level OLED TV, I don't see how they can settle for anything less. Mine's paired up with an entry-level Denon Dolby Atmos AVR with Audyssey MultEQ XT room correction and secondhand but nice floorstanders front and rear and it blows the living daylights out of going to my local cinema. Couldn't be happier!
Yeah, I'm the complete opposite. I don't want a product that's amazing now but fails within 5 years. That's a waste of money. I originally bought a OLED because I got tired of too bright TVs (they had to be turn down to around 15 to 10% bightness to be used without giving me headaches) but after experienced serious image retention Within eight months of ownership, I stopped using the OLED and went back to my 6. Year old TCL I rather have something that works and I don't have to worry about it, name something that looks amazing but I have to worry about burn in. The stress isn't worth it.
I would bet that would come into play for me more if I didn't have the knowledge ill get more tvs each year. So I understand that and I am same way on lenses and non-tv tech
@@michael-4k4000 I often game 2 to 4 hours a day and depending on the weekend, I can no from 0 game time to 12+ hours of gaming. However the day I suffered serious image retention, (lasted over 12 hours) I was watching bleach anime. (I only watch a video content about an hour max. My TVs are primarily for gaming) I also have all the burn in protect on. However after experiencing that, I don't want to go back to OLED. Sure my LG C1 looks superior to my TCL, but the stress isn't worth it.
I just got a 65" LG C3 and I love it. Great for gaming and the blacks are amazing. I never have it at 100% brightness, even in a well lit room so idk why it would ever be an issue. So happy with my purchase. Woulda went with the 75" but it was a bit out of my price range.
Ive had a oled 2 times now and the burnin (even with the protection options) is coming basicly after couple months already.... thats why I dont go oled anymore.
@@jjaisudhan noo just between 20:00 and 23:00 for 3 hours a day basicly diffrent content and football matches. Basicly around 6/7 months you started to see colour diffrents and burn in spots. After 1/1.5 year its basicly not ussable anymore for me. Switched now to Neo Qled from samsung for 2 years and I had no problems...
I love how the OLED look but for the cost and the burn in that’s ultimately the deal breaker. I wouldn’t be upset about the burn in if the price was similar to the Samsung QLED within a couple hundred dollars in oppose to +$1K. I’m using my PS5 and Series X majority of the time so if the gaming on it wows me on the QLED I’m fine with it.
That greenish tint you saw on that LG C7 is a flaw in older OLED TVs...I had the same thing on my C9. LG replaced my panel for free because of this. It's the heat from the TVs power and motherboards that cause it
I’m sitting in front of a perfect Panasonic PLASMA tv right now. It has to be close to 20 years old and only recently have tv’s caught up with its picture quality. No burn it. Gorgeous colors and deep blacks. I love this TV. Only reason I will get a new tv some day is for 4K.
@@jonpenguin303 Agree!! Still using my 720p 50" Panasonic plasma from 2009. Great black levels, color saturation, and picture quality. Picture quality and contrast beats resolution any day. Only the OLEDs come close to beating it even after 15 years.
For all those baby boomer and Gex X out there might also want to remember those CRT they grew up with had the same capacity for burn-in. Typically not an issue unless you watch programming with a continuously static image or news chyron all day.
Agree, I have a LG C2 in my bedroom but no way would I put it in my family room. I want a tv that is vibrant and can handle EVERYTHING, and not watching in film maker mode lol
LG OLED bought in 2017. LOVE IT!!! However, screen burn in has been pretty significant. Started originally visible only with high yellow or green background, but now quite visible on most colors. Mostly due to news tickers and channel watermark logos that never change location.
Just purchased QN85 Samsung QLED the other day , technology has changed since this vid , I have a dark man cave and the QLED is bright and very clear and the Q Symphony feature is awesome with the Bose 900 Soundbar and 700 sub. OLED have burn in issues, TCL and Hisense have not been around long enough to invest in a big screen tv.
After suffering from 3 burn-in's and the huge costs to fix that each time for my first OLED TV made me understand that even if the image looks incridible on OLED it's still not worth losing so much money. Since i'm a PC Gamer a burn-in is a complete show-stopper for me.. I remember that after i saw a video for QLED that promotes the aspect that these TV's don't have the risk for burn-in, i went full ahead with the best QLED TV that i found last year and i don't regret it, it's true that the black tone of this TV is not great, but it still gives me a great image quality and if one day there will be a balanced TV with the best features of both OLED and QLED and also won't risk me with a burn-in, i will buy that TV day1
Love your summary. I’m in the market for a tv and was reading the burn issue with OLED. Mostly everything we watch these days have some constant moniker or something that could cause burn issues. I decided that I’m going with qled
burn in becomes a big issue if you plan to use the tv as a PC monitor, especially if you use it for ~8 hours a day. The QN QLEDs also have 144Hz which is great for gaming, while the LG OLED are still limited to 120Hz. Also note that the contrast might appear better and is better on OLED but you will soon forget that once you only have one TV at home and nothing to compare it to. Heck even with my old standard backlit Bravia from 2017 I think black looks good, even though when it's completely dark you'll clearly see that black is actually more like grey and glows.
That is incorrect: LED displays are not susceptible to burn-in. It is physically impossible. You may end up with something that emulates burn-in, but that is a problem with something other than the LED display itself. Plasma TVs are/were susceptible to burn in, but not LEDs.
@@-108- wrong lol, i worked in a command center where LCD LED displays were showing the same thing 24/7 and they definitely had burn in after years of being abused like that.
Good video, I have an Panasonic lz980 oled, and I don't have any issues with the brightness at all, it definitely gets bright enough for me, in a reasonably light room with lots of big windows.
Bought the samsung QN90 last year and couldn’t be happier with it. Great for movies and for gaming too. Our living room is quite bright and has a lot of windows so the brightness is really welcome. Also managed to grab it during their black friday sale for a really good price 👍🏻👍🏻
Bought a samsung qled and ended up returning it for an LG Oled. The qled looked very artifical. Recently purchased a Sony Oled and it's much better than LG.
@@wombat5252 ASBL exist on every single OLED. LG has reduced it in active content like movies. But it's still there and if you use it for a PC monitor, it's impossibly bad. ABL also exist when transitioning from a dark scene to a bright one. That quick dimming from bright to dimmer on a bright scene is noticeable. But everyone ignores flaws of OLED and only focus on "blooming" on MiniLED. Also burn-in is a factor and longevity because of it. Of course this depends on if you barely use the TV or use it a lot, and then also what type of content.
@@loki76 Doesn't exist on my C2 or then I suppose I'm blind? Yeah the blooming effect annoys me on mini LED so that's why I prefer OLED but OLED has it's flaws. I REALLY dislike the ''strobing'' effect on my OLED. This happens on them all. OLED has it's flaws too, no TV is perfect. The burn in is a lot better now than before obviously but sure, mini LED will last you longer technically.
@@loki76 The problems on QLEDs are much more horrible and in all type of scenes. The dimming side effects are a big dealbreaker. Hundreds of problems vs some problems that are not that noticable. Brightness alone makes not good picture quality. Brightness is ovrrated. The OLEDs can be very bright if needed. Full fields are rare in real content. Specially the Samsung Mini LEDs are really really bad. Tricks and stuff that fakes the picture. Killing details, faking colors, creating weird blooming or pulsaring effects.
In short: if you want an expensive lightbulb buy an old LCD technology called QLED, if you want the latest TV tech with amazing Plazma TV like picture quality you will love the OLED.
As someone said in the comment section before, we do not perceive blacks like how OLEDs are in real life, we see colors with shades like how QLEDs are.
I will never get a TCL again! The volume blasts one second and goes down low the next. I’m constantly turning it up and down because it literally will blast you out. I hate my tv which is why I found this video.
You don't get that much of blooming on the qn90b though. I own the tv the 55 inches in specific and I'm literally blown away. I was about to get the c2 but chose the Samsung over the c2 who was also a bit cheaper because the overall better brightness. Now in this video he didn't set the tv properly, the brightness is too high for some reason as well as the contrast. If you set the qn90b properly, you can barely understand the difference between the c2 and qn90b. The only downside is the slight more blooming when it displays bright objects in an absolute black background.
In my sixties, and noticed that my nice flat wall hanging 55' led with all the bells and whistles still shows me the same crap our 20" b&w set did back in the 60's, except its likely not going to last anywhere as long. Sports, movies and sitcoms are no more exciting to watch now than they were then...actually, it was better then
Whatever you do - DO NOT buy Samsung QLEDs. They wash out colours. You can already see it at the beginning of the video on the PS5 avatar in top right corner and UA-cam logo. I had a Q95A and returned it after two weeks. Paid a little extra and got S95B - best decision ever as far as TVs go (I suspect other OLEDS would have been great as well)
I live in South Texas where 9 months of the year are sunny ( and dang hot). For the last few years, i have owned an LG CX Oled TV as the main TV for movies and videogames and even with windows all around with curtains open, it looks excellent in terms of contrast and brightness. I own an QLED TV and although has good picture quality, OLED is just much better. No regrets.
I think the U8H very close to OLED without the burn in risk .it was rated the best over all tv for 2022 in the mid range but it can compete with tv twice its price as well. nits of brightness 1500-2000 and low input lag 120hz 2.1 hdmi google and alexa the picture is amazing
i have it and i am very happy with you. display is beautiful to play games and watch movies especially in the cinema night mode. plus very strong audio quality.
I was scrambling between a Samsung QNLED vs an OLED and I had the same thoughts as you. I’d rather have a tv with awesome picture quality right now and maybe have to replace it in five years or so. Just bought a 77in Samsung S95C QNOLED and it came with a year extended warranty. Burn Baby Burn!!!
I get that the oled TV have a better picture quality overall but it isn't like it's 2 a 3 times better then an qled mini led. Honestly is is a litter better. Not night/day difference
Loving the vid's 👍 question, there is no doubt the contrast looks better on the oled but it does seem to crush blacks a lot compared to the qled? Rewatched The Batman on my Q90R and its not a black out room as it is the main living area and i am very impressed the qled. I know a starfield on the oled would destoy the 90r but the safety of no burn in and bright room performance with the new Qn95c seems like a better general performer. Am I wrong to dismiss the oled? I do watch day time and have very large windows so the tv run at 45 out of 50 brightness and this is a big fear factor with oled... Surely a qn95c will be an improvement over the q90r or do I go oled 🤔
Bought a 38" Sanyo Roku TV about 7 years ago for about $120. Didn't expect in to last but a couple of years for that price. Still watching it! My point.... You don't need to spend a lot on these high end expensive TVs, unless you are just one of those that like spending money. Spend less, if it doesn't last, so what you're not out much money. On the other hand cheap TVs may last way longer than you expect.
I use my PC connected to the TV and was very close to getting the qn90b but then I heard about the rainbow smearing issue and that the sony x95k had it too, didn't know what to do! Now it seems like they've directly addressed that with the qn90c so I'll probably be pulling the trigger on that, even though the review for it from this channel wasn't too glowing. Don't know how they managed to make an IPS with the advantages of a VA but I'm impressed.
I saw the qn90c and x95k and there’s no way the Samsung is better than the 95k… the 90c seemed to wash out at an angle too. Get the x95k in 85 and u won’t regret it and have a better tv than the 90c
I bought the 90b ive had np with it beautiful tv my pc connected to it i game for 12hrs straight some times with no worries of burn in this tvs gorgeous
@@BTheInstaller Good to know to keep my options open thanks. I figured it couldn't be that bad because they're so popular and well reviewed but of course if I search for qn90b rainbow in google or youtube you will only see the bad cases.
I went with a s90c and although it might not be as good as the G3… for the price difference the quality is worth it. Best bang for buck TV on the market right now.
I just checked out an OLED and QNED at Bestbuy. Both were LG and had the same features/plug in options. I noticed that the QNED looked better from side angles and stayed bright/the screen didn't look dark from a less ideal angle which people may experience in a living room. It also costed $400 less for the same size and brand. (65")
@@paulwatkins2333 How is it better when the viewing angle is MUCH worse? And they both have the exact same hdmi 2.1 ports, audio return hdmi port, optical audio, etc.
@@Awesome_Forceit’s just been proven time and time again that OLEDs are the best in terms of picture quality. You’re picking 1 thing that the specific tv has over an OLED and saying that tv is better. I mean if that’s all you care about is viewing angles then yeah go ahead and get that tv, or a projector that handles the viewing angles even better, but if you want the most well rounded and best looking tvs(in a dim to moderately lit room) go with an OLED. As long as it fits your needs and you are happy with the purchase then go for it! Everyone is different. I have had 5 different OLEDs from LG, Sony, and Samsung and have loved them all. I literally just sold my 83” A90J today because I wanna try something different. Either the 98” TCL he shows at the end of the video or a 120” ust projector like the Formovie theater, haven’t decided yet. Just wanted to go bigger since we just moved into a place where we sit about 12 feet away
@@jamesadkinsiii7925 QNED also shows more detail for gaming, which is one of the main reasons for me to get another TV. ua-cam.com/video/XkKXgkv2rqc/v-deo.html And the price is about $400 + less than an OLED.
Your videos are great. But, when we ask whether we should buy a specific tv over another, all reviewers will just refer us to what's your use case and preferences. I can understand that you explain very well that each tv has good and bad points and the value of the reviews is to actually sample and display all top tvs. Rtings and Vincent of HDTV each test get into specifications and details for comparisons that inform consumers as well, but can sometimes still leave us undecided. Point is, no one can point at one tv that will satisfy everybody at the same time. I will never buy a tv over 77inches because my opinion is over 77inches is projector territory. One reason is huge tvs are difficult to handle, as you know .
Anything over 77" is projector territory? No it most certainly is not! Projectors are inferior in every way but size. You'll never get the colors, contrast, brightness and perfect blacks as an OLED or Micro LED.
@@walmartpimp2 you can get a very good projector for less than some huge tvs. I do have very good tvs too, but I also like to watch movies on a 100in screen. How much is a good 100in TV? 120in?
@@walmartpimp2 THATS NOT true. LOOK UP 2020 Samsung Q90T, Hisense H9G…al the videos form STOP the Fomo n Quatum. Side by side comparing to LG c9 sony H900x. Its just epic. Both Samsung Q90T, Hisense H9G/Q9G already looked OLED pitch black. The only difference is that OLED ppl dont even WANT to look at it. N even if they are like :”wow,,,” its always fallowed with “but” then if there is 1 % of tiny bright something that cant match oled---in PITCH black. That is Completely GONE as soon as there is a just medium room light, or morning sun . When u need Bright TV n all the black turn to grey instea of black. That OLED cant not reach cuz their black is elevated but their BRIGHT color is like 40% as elevated as QLED. They immediatly look like $650 tv vs $2500. I have gone to store checking it out for years. Cuz year n year i am like :”this maeks no sense”.
Thanks, my two cents, get an OLED, but a smaller one, for a smaller room. Most everyone ends up with a large TV in the living room, and "the other one" somewhere else and THAT one, ends up being watched--a lot. The LG 42 C2 will blow you away and below one thousand. Hard to beat, in my opinion.
I keep hearing how dim oleds are.. I upgraded to Samsung S95C QD OLED and it is not only brilliant and vibrant.. its bright. Very bright. It's brighter than the low end Samsung TU8000 that I upgraded from.
YES. Awesome video. I've been holding on to my notes from the last year of all the differences between QLED and OLED (QUHD, ULED for that matter), still confuses me. LOL This was a great and concise video that broke each down wonderfully. Still on the fence and will probably be ready to purchase a new TV in about 2-3 months. Seems prices are always in flux and just have to keep on the look out for the deals. Thanks again. Always enjoy your videos.
@@michael-4k4000 Thanks for taking the time to respond. I've had issues with other LG products in the past, so have been a bit leery of spending a huge amount of money on anything of theirs for a few years now. Also, not a fan of their layouts of their OS screens. For lack of a better word, they almost seem "primitive". I've usually been a "full house" Samsung guy as well...so everything connects and works together well. Planning on upgrading my sound bar system as well when I get my new TV, so worry about compatibility mixing different brands. However...with that said, your comments give me pause, as well as, I've just watched this video on burn in issues with OLED TV's. I remember I had a (720p...omg, how did we live with that LOL) Plasma TV about 15 years ago that had a terrible burn in problem, so I really don't want to go back to having hat issue again. The testing they're doing do suggest the LG's are fairing better with this issue overall. So will give them another look. ua-cam.com/video/my1lyUE7WVM/v-deo.html In any event, it's going to another 2-3 months before I'm ready to actually lay out the money for this purchase so a lot more notes and research can be done. 😁 Thanks again for your comments. Cheers.
@dinocub1 I have the same thoughts as you. A little skeptical about lg products. I have a 10 year old samsung 55 inch lcd , still going strong. It was a top of the line back then and so it has proved . I have my eye on the G3 , but with it being so expensive for 77 inch model I have to settle for probably a 65 inch or a c2 at 77 inch. Like you I will wait , maybe till prime day and see if prices come down a bit
In 2004 I got screwed when I spent $3600 on a 65" Toshiba DLP rear projection 1080p. The lamp $200 would burn out every couple of months. So I'm doing my homework this go around.
I had a great LG OLED for 8 years now from 2016. It just broke yesterday, burned out. From one minute to the next. Ordered a samsung Neo QLED QN800c 8k today. Im absolutely excited for that screen 🤩
When you say "only 77inches"... up to what sort of viewing distance would 77inches be good for? At what distance would it be better instead to upsize to 83/85inches? Thanks
I have an OLED (a90j) and an x930e. Not a QLED obviously. That being said, I like my OLED, but the near black handling is not very good compared to an led/LCD/QLED. I prefer gaming on the led compared to the OLED. Yeah the instantaneous response is nice on the OLED, but the black crush can be painful at times. I miss the brightness of the led/LCD. It just punches through. At the end of the day, both of these options are great and you'll enjoy them. I'm hoping to getting a z9 from Sony at some point. Abl is also an issue when it comes to racing and sports. The dimming happens way too frequently and it's obnoxious on my a90j
@@suraj4020 the issues are the near black handling is still not resolved and it still doesn't touch the full field brightness of an led/LCD/qled or mini led. I don't really care to have a 5 or 10% window twinkle. Most content is full field
@@SpencersStuffTV I'm surprised. I just find OLED so far superior to that of even the best QLED's. Gaming looks SOO much better and quicker. Movies are just so much better with the contrast and color saturations. QLED is good but eh, I find OLED the best and I only have the C2. I want the G3 but it would be silly for me to spend that kind of $$ again. I'm going to wait for the G4
@@wombat5252 I'm not saying OLED is bad. It's like comparing apples to oranges. For me personally, I find the near black handling on oleds to be extremely distracting. And the abl kicking in as well. To my eye, even with raised blacks and some blooming, led colors just pop and look better to my eye. I find it looks more natural. Even compared to the qd OLED. And for gaming I've been so underwhelmed with the lack of full field brightness on my oled. For movies OLED is sensational though, can't deny it. I'm just happy we can look at both technologies and find what we like
@@SpencersStuffTV See I don't have that ''auto dimming'' thing that people complain about. That's on the older OLED's. But yeah, people have preferences. My father personally loves QLED better too and he's had both and we both get the upper tier of the models. Not the top top but near the top. I will say though I really don't like the ''strobing'' effect on OLED's though, that I notice when it does happen and it's bothersome, whereas the blooming on QLEDs is also bothersome to me. No TV is perfect.
Good video, but wouldnt it be more fair to compare the QN95C (samsung's top of the crop neo QLED) to the LG G3? the new OLED G3 or even samsung's own S95C produces brightness as good as the QN95C w/ the benefits of OLEDs. The C3 is best in its class, but the brightness will lack the QN95C as the direct comparable would been the G3/S95C.
I always wondered what is the life expectancy of an oled? I heard they can go at least 30,000 hours before they fail. My last sony lcd which is 10 years old had about 8000 hours and works great still i gave it to my mom and bought a sony oled. Sounds like the qleds can last alot longer. which makes sense considering they dont have burn in. I have the sony 48” a90k which i love so far great audio and picture its amazing.
@@michael-4k4000 yeah lg and sony are both great. I liked the audio on the sony. I think sony has the best picture processing in the buiz. but lg does a great job too. Thats good news. Ive had mine almost 7 months and havent seen any image retention or burn in yet. Yeah lg makes a great product. the s95b wouldve been my 2nd choice but it was way to expensive and i couldnt fit a 55” on my stand so i thought the a90k was still a great choice. ive always had good luck with sony products over the years
My LG CX is 3 years old now and I’ve used it religiously. It’s got 9677 hours and still looks awesome. As far as I know it has no burn in, and if it does it’s not very noticeable.
@@KRoberts1299 damn thats alot for 3 years haha. But thats good though. I dont think burn is much of a problem with the newer oleds as well. Not sure how many hours on mine. Id have to check
Thank you for the video. It was really helpful in deciding what I would buy. Waiting on G3 prices to come down a bit. I know you mentioned for sports qled would be fine but anytime I see a oled in the best buy near me I can't think of getting the qled
@@BTheInstaller appreciate your feedback and all the work you do I love the fact you simplify your content for viewers like me who want to understand what TV is good for what use case. I have seen other presentations which go into too many technical details which are good on paper but don't really make me understand what to buy. Keep up the great work. I am hoping prices for the 77 inch fall to around 3500 by thanksgiving for me to buy.
I bought an OLED and it didn't last very long before having issues, I did some research and it seems the OLED do not last as long. I thought i got a lemon, but it seems the life of OLED is shorter than other types. After three years the Monitor started to fail, it would turn off or have only lines. I couldn't get a picture in the end.
This OLED lies nonsense has to stop. So you literary show in your video that QLED utterly destroys the OLED but claim the opposite. OLED has garbage colour accuracy, OLED also has very bad contrast, or lets call it dynamic contrast (do not confuse with marketing term). What you meant is that OLED has better contrast *ratio* then QLED, but that is very different from contrast. Contrast ratio is just a division of brightest and darkest pixel, but that doesnt tell you how good or bad the screen performs in contrast (or lets call it luminosity levels). Yes OLED has the ability to turn off the pixel and that means that you get the darkest black possible, which is in reality of cinema pretty useless. Why? Well, human eye needs some level of light to be able to distinguish the form, black is NO INFORMATION. Thats and also how the film material is working means, that you will never see total black in any movie. And now comes the big big problem of the OLEDs bad contrast, it is the luminosity levels just above the turned off pixel. OLED is unable to do so, the very next level to black is already too bright. OLED TVs do mask this step by darkening scene in shadow area, so you dont get the very bad posterization effect. The problem is that you also loose the information in shadows. Therefore OLED is absolutely unfit for dark movies, yes the black is scary, but you dont see anything else... While the QLED doesnt have the ability to fully darken a single pixel, it has much better control over the steps right above the darkest black it can produce, so a lot of information is preserved in shadows. You can easy see it in this video as well. OLED does have the very same problem in very bright areas, like sky with clouds. Clouds are never as bright on OLEDs then on QLED, despite the ability of OLED to achieve higher luminescence levels, the white is dimmed down to prevent the posterization effect. Both described effects are clearly seen in your video side by side (yes I do understand the low dynamic range of the camera, but still you can see the difference). And the much bigger difference where the OLED is a total garbage is the colour accuracy. What? OLED has the best colours, are you blind? Well, OLED has popping colours, the problem is that such colours are non existent in real world. Yes OLED can do better artificial colours like neon colours, but it can never display accurate skin tone, or accurate plant green (yes on OLED the green forest is even greener, lol). And no, you cant tweak the OLED to accurate natural colour, it is the nature of the beast how OLED is working. While even cheapest QLED has dE less then 1.5, I never measured a OLED that reached anything close to dE 2.0 (which is considered as a minimum to somewhat accurate colours), mostly dE 3.5 area is OLED best performance. You dont believe me? So look at the youtube logo or CNN logo on a OLED, it will be a very unnatural red, popping yes, but both logos are a printable red, the red you will see on OLED is NOT pritable due to nature of subtractive light... While on QLED the red will be accurate, with slight orange tint as it should be (but even some QLEDs sometimes do have strange "make the colours pop" garbage filter turned on). Or look at the baseball scene in this video how artificial the grass is, or the basketball stand green, yes that green you cant buy in form of a paint, how in the world did they achieve such a colour finish? Hm.. OLED magic? LOL So here comes the secret why every "expert" is forcing OLED on you, OLED is produced by a inkjet printer, printing directly on substrate, very cheap manufacturing process, much much cheaper then QLED (which is LCD+area dimming LEDs), so yes you should pay more for cheaper tech. But hey, the black is darker, the grass is greener, sky is bluer people are finally not white privileged, all OLED magic right?
also worth talking about is PMW which q-led tv's use.... and oled do not. you might not see it.... but it is there.... and it can make your eyes tired.
Just to correct a small point: DVD doesn't have HDR. As a matter of fact, it has less color information than even Blu-ray. Some Blu-rays will have a form of HDR that sometimes uses an older YrPrBr mode in order to get a bit more color range (Sony did this with their "Mastered in 4K" Blu-rays), but typically if you want true HDR content, you have to have a streaming service (and the right package) or to buy the movie on Ultra HD Blu-ray.
I love this review, I've saved it and will come back to it as I'm in the hunt for an 85" TV. What's the refresh rate of the LG OLED TV? Finally, the TV stand, I love the stand that you use for your middle TV- LG OLED, what's the name, and where can I get it? Thanks.
Im old school and still watching my Pioneer ELITE PRO-1160HD and I absolutely love the picture quality and temperature. Oh and the speakers on it are awesome also.
Hi big fan. I’m ready to buy an Oled. Has the Lg C2 ever been cheaper than $1496.00 ever in the recent past? Should I wait more or just buy it now??? Thanks
Ya but the OLED also auto dimm in low-light pictures, which for LG (called TPC) can't be turned off without voiding the warranty, etc. And, for those watching movies, I just can't see that dark pictures like horror movies etc. would be a good thing. In that regard, I think an LCD is best.
Nice comparison OLED will always be better not too bright just enough much better watching in dark room, Brandon what brand of tv console drawer you used in QN95C? thanks in advance 😊
your wife's a trooper man. Its great when us men can find a woman who indulges our ridiculous hobbies.
Literally the dream
This video is not fair. Samsung is MAL tweaked. My 2021 Hisense U8G 65” n if not 2 yr old model Samsung QN90A can even out do this setting by right tweak.
This tv is def dimmed.
It should have 1350 local dimmming. Wtf is this influncer. Last year Sony X95K only has 48 pathetic local dimming. The oLED black crush is like making it 2 D if close up.
This video is shot from far away.
@@birdtj82Glad someone else noticed it, I have a Q95B, and he has not properly calibrated or at least tweaked a few settings here and there..
@@Zeegoku1007this whole video just something off about it. I have seen the same guy threw HIsense Mini LED under the bus before . I went to store, checked OUT U8H side by side with OLED for over an hr, n played it n compared with Samsung QD OLED S95B. Over all the S95B was WAY surpass any OLED, n funny Hisense U8H was the runner up before OLED . MASSIVELY land slide destroy OLED black crush issue. They awlays shoot the OLED videos from FAR FAR FAR away, so on computer/phone screen we get the zoomed in visual--“more clear more clear”. But everyhing is seen as black /white of course its more “clear” seeming on the phone or computer monitor. In person the black suit in the video is 1 BLACK CHUNK of flat color. Thats what I SAW in store when i was comparing they were playing the movie :Italian job, the matrix . The black suits just look 1 cluster of flat black, there was no texture the dark scen so much black but no depth. N face n lighter color is overly lightened up. Because OLED has issue BRIGHTEN the screen. So its PROGRAMMED to OVERERLY Darken black colors to creat illlusion of Contrast/sharp image. Its well known. Ppl just have eyes shut .
This video is no diff than like those --Bounty paper tower commercial.
Left the “generic wipe) right the Bountry wipe.
--once consumer visuallly sold the --perception,,,its BAKED in. Its called direct marketing sale ….
@@Zeegoku1007 u r smart, u got Q95B. Its so pricy tho everything Samsung flagship is like super $$$$ :) i think u are good for like 4-5 yrs lol :)
I did buy the Samsung QLED last year. The LG OLED was twice as much and looked better in the store. I have been very happy with my Samsung. The secret, once you buy, stop comparing. If you like what you have you will have what you like.
I'm sorry, but burn in on a TV after just 4 or 5 years is completely unacceptable, especially considering the cost of them. The vast majority of people cannot just keep replacing their TV every 4 or 5 years. It's the most important issue regarding OLED and you just brush over it with "well, just buy a new one when it happens".
I would be fine after 4 years since I would get one with 5 years of warranty. But if the second one wouldn't last more than 4 years it would be tough to buy again. Hopefully in 8 years technology will have progressed far...
Newer OLEDs don't have that problem. 😳
@@alphaomega1351The original comment said the issue happens after 4 to 5 years.. can't confirm for the new models yet in that case
Please stop with this burn in hype. It only happens when the same static image is displayed for extended hours.
Burn in is the old case bro and mostly occurs for static logo or images. If u stream movies, sports on daily basis u will never face such issues. And now the webOS auto refresh pixel and AI advise u to reboot tv whenever needed.
17:55 Ignorance is the Bliss, this is the lesson I have learned from this video. This literally makes my day. Thank you so much.
I love my QLED Samsung for watching movies. Just bought a LG OLED C3 and it's beautiful for gaming. Both TV's have their strengths and I don't think you can go wrong with either tbh.
I love my QLED Samsung for watching movies Just bought a LG OLED c3 and It’s beautiful ❤
Oled for gaming? That will burn in the panel
@@anrivera1975 haven’t had any burn in yet:) as long as you don’t leave it on a pause menu, you’ll be fine
@@anrivera1975not if he play varied games
@@anrivera1975I was wondering about that!! I’ve read reviews on OLED and found that most say they got image burn. I want to get an OLED but it will be used alot for playing music with a still image. Thats where I’m hesitant to buy one because I’m afraid the image will burn in if on for hours. I think I’m just going to go for a QLeD. We play some games on it but nothing crazy. Idk I’m still stuck and been looking at these for a few months now 😅. Hard choice
Three years ago I was shopping for a new TV. I was looking for something in the 75-80 inch realm. When I saw an array of display TVs in the shop, one stood out immediately - the OLED TV. I ended up getting a 65 inch TV for more money than I would have spent for an 80 inch LED, but the picture quality was so much better! Every time I watch something with a lot of dark scenes, I love my TV more - in particular, The Expanse looks absolutely amazing on my screen! I highly recommend spending the extra money, and perhaps taking a smaller screen, to get the amazing picture quality that an OLED TV can provide!
Any signs of burn in after 3 years?
@@seand5517 Nope - the picture looks as good as when I first turned it on!
Let's be real though, OLED has the best picture....until it doesn't work like it's supposed to (burn-in).
I was the opposite of you, I'd rather have bigger screen than getting smaller OLED. Each to their own, but for me QLED technology has getting more advanced these days where the difference between OLED are negligible. I only notice the difference in picture quality when I'm at the store comparing the TV side by side during dark scene, this kind of test are pretty pointless because you won't have multiple TVs at home playing side by side.
I've got an LG 55" EF950V which is now nine years old and used daily in my living room. Bought in summer 2015. The picture is still superb. No burn in issues at all. No faults at all ever. Never had the back cover removed. It still performs like it was new. Spot on Greyscale. I am a British ex TV engineer (changed to developing software in 1985) and this LG set has brought me much happiness over this nine years. It's always been rubbish on HDR (colours are all wrong and it's insanely dark) but I don't care too much about that. I have another LG C9 65" OLED upstairs which performs superbly, and will be five years old at Christmas time. HDR and Dolby Vision are good that one!
I used to own an OLED tv and no doubt about it the picture was better than a QLED, but the burn-in was a deal breaker for me and many channels today leave their banner up in the corner of the screen and over time the image gets burned in. I watched another YT channel where they did burn in test on the new S95C and LG G3 and after 200 hours they noticed burn in on them. For me it is QLED for a TV you actually watch for many hours.
Agree
I’d not even worry about burn in I’ve had my LG C1 for 2 years now and no sign of burn in. Trust me using the tv normal you won’t have to worry about burn in.
What do you usually watch for 200 hours straight that has got static images?
@@jacobsimiyu3663 CNBC,DWTV, BLOOMBERG,Any local news channel, PBS etc.
I had the same concerns as you before I bought my first OLED. I went with LG as they seem to have the best preventative measures/tech in place. I’ve had two OLED TV’s in my house now - one for three years (no burn in) and one for two years (no burn in). Both see daily use. While the danger is still there, and the panels will slowly get less bright as time goes on, by the time either of those things happen to where it’s noticeable, I’ll have already replaced them.
I just bought a 2000 + NIT QLED for use outdoors on glass roofed deck where the afternoon sun shines straight onto the screen. Its great, clear in direct sunlight and its anti reflective coating works a charm. It was also relatively cheap for a 85 inch screen. Summer evening movies on the deck (10pm sun set) are possible and for the first time, given sport, beer and BBQ just go together better outside, I have my perfect match day set-up. Currently no OLED would match it's performance in this setting regardless of budget and it was cheap.
But every other screen in the house is OLED and except for price and super bright environments I see little room for QLEDs going forward. If you have a very bright environment or limited budget and want to super size, don't be put off QLED. You can get a great QLED for £/$ 1k, a great 85" QLED for £/$ 2k. But for everything else, if your budget is £/$ 1k + just look a OLED.
For the budget market I think you still get better picture processing out of QLEDs than budget OLEDs today but with the cost of OLED panels dropping they will reach parity very soon.
I owned an LG C8 OLED, and it developed burn-in after 4 years. So it's 100% still an issue. I now have a mini LED TV, which is much better in my bright living room and better at handling reflections. The biggest downside is blooming - i.e., slight halo effect when there's white on black - which is not a thing with OLED TV's. If you can deal with that, then I think mini LED (i.e., QLED) is the way to go. If you don't care about burn-in after 4 or so years, then go with OLED. Neither technology is 100% perfect - that's why there's a choice. It's a matter of determining what's most important to you.
Well I mean it was an issue 5 years ago. Incredibly tech improves and you aren’t the end all be all of use cases.
@bobbrossify burn in is definitely still a issue with oled my friend installs tvs and sound systems and he gets calls for oleds getting burn out before the 3 year warranty all the time he says if money not a issue get oled the picture quality is better but long term no
almost at the 3 years mark I saw massive burn in on my OLED TV....I can see after 8 years, all the UA-cam progression logos.....and a lot more
One of the best reviews, the side by side comparison was fantastic and you could see the difference.
How do we know? The stores set the brightness and contrast levels for great pictures for the ones they want to sell or or given bonuses by the manufacturer and downgrade the others.
Just an observation. When you have the QN95C next to the LG C3 It kind of drives the point home that brighter isn't always better as the Samsung looks washed out compared to the LG.
I saw one in a store and I'm pretty sure it just comes with the gamma set way too high. Some calibration should yield a much closer result
The amount of ambient light in the room makes the difference. In my bright room, the LG would look too dark and shadowed.
It's due to the camera. In person you wouldn't see that.
I have owned an LO OLED for five (5) years now and I can attest to the incredible picture that it provides. HOWEVER, I am GREATLY disappointed about the burn in that this television has incurred since owning it and simply using it for everyday television viewing. Consequently, UNLESS the OLED televisions can overcome this OLED drawback when I shop for areplacement somewhere in time to come, I would look at the top of the line QLED televisions MORE seriously than the OLED televisions.
OLED screens have made advancements for burn in. It used to start happening at around the 700 hour mark. Though, now that they have switch to deuterium instead of hydrogen, it lasts for about 4000-7000 hours before burn in.
You have convinced me to go for a Neo QLED. I am going to replace my 14 year old 46 inch Panasonic Plasma with a Samsung 75 inch QN95C
@@monkeymagic4600 Tbh, you're better off with an OLED. Samsung will usually replace burnt in panels, and you wont see any burn in for about 4000-7000 hours. Basically, by the time you'll see it, you'll be in the market for a new TV. (This is coming from somebody who has both a QLED and and several OLED screens.
What concerns me more with OLEDs is the screen degradation - the organic components degrade over time. I've seen this on identical tablets using AMOLED displays.
One bought 6 mths later than the other on identical settings had a distinctly brighter screen/image.
If I'm spending $3000-$4000 on a screen, I want to know its brightness and vibrancy are not going to degrade after 12 mths...
I have been abusing of my LG OLED since 2018 and its still kicking. I watch lots of 4k bluray with excellent HDR and I haven't seen any degradation or burning.
Unless you have a time machine that goes 10+ years into the future to see if this is truly a problem how in the world do you expect to find out if this is truly an issue today? 🙄🙄
@@jeffmattel7867 OLEDs have been around for 10 years... no-one in that time has done any research, testing or comparisons? Even with current technology?
@@jorgeu111 But how would you know the screen vibrancy/intensity had declined or not? It happens gradually over time so you wouldn't notice so much except with a comparison of an identical new screen.
I didn't notice it happening with an amoled tablet until it was next to its new version...
@@jamied1579 well, its absolutely likely to have degraded but what I meant to say is that its still impressive and vibrant. I can't see any degradation. I am absolutely satisfied with it. Degradation haven't affected my experience at the 5 years mark.
Gamers probably worry more about burn-in. As a heavy PC Gamer when I was buying my TV a little over 2 years ago it was down to a Samsung Q80 65" and a comparable OLED. I went with the QLED because I was worried about burn-in. I asked a Home Theater guy at Best Buy if it would be worth trading in my QLED for a comparable Mini-LED model. He said not really.
I did have an LG OLED develop a severe case of something. Some sort of burn in. It had a huge green spot develop in the middle of the screen. It was 2 years old and had just gone out of warranty. It is a C8. We still have it in a guest room that rarely gets used. This was right before the pandemic and we went to New Zealand for a couple of weeks and our daughter house sat for us. I believe that she just left the TV on all the time for as a kind of white noise thing. I replaced with a Sony LED. After 2 years with the Sony I find I don’t really miss the OLED as much as I thought I would. We both are retired and typically turn on the TV when we get up for music streamed from our Apple TV. The TV stays on until we go to bed again. Even if we leave the house it stays on for our dogs. Until OLEDs become bulletproof or our use case changes I think that we’ll stick with LED.
Great video, Brandon. I always enjoy your tech videos. This comparison between the two display technologies nails it. After half a year of research I decided to go with an Oled this year and I'm very happy with it. I bought an LG OLED77CS9LA which seems to be only available here in Europe (Germany) and down under in Australia and not in the US. The LG CS ranges between the B2 and C2. Because of the Deuterium Panel of the G1, which is used in the CS, I don't miss brightness in the picture of the tv at all. Before the LG I was using a Samsung GQ 65 Q 70 RGTXZG QLED TV from 2020 with FALD Display, which now does his job in our bedroom. Don't get me wrong, the Samsung is a brilliant TV with punchy colours and a good contrast because of the local dimming. But the cinematic quality of the LG Oled is so much better in so many ways and gives me what I expect from a so called immersive tv experience. In short - the picture quality blew me away. Im not a gamer and I primarily whatch movies and tv series in 4K so burn in wont be an issue and for these needs an Oled fits perfect.
well you are comparing a normal FALD display to an OLED, the Mini-LED displays perform a lot better these days. They certainly won't meet the quality of the OLED until there are significantly more dimming zones with perfect control, but a lot happened in the last three years
There was a time when nothing could beat a German made CRT TV both for styling and picture quality and tech, Blaupunkt, ITT, Saba, Seimens, Graetz, Nordmende etc. along with their Hi fi gear.
@@anthonyxuereb792 word! I had a Grundig 16:9 TV back in 1998. Rock solid, high quality and well built. Unfortunalety those days are far gone. The high production costs, due to taxes here in Germany, raises the price, so they can't compete with the market.
@@MarkusSellmann My goodness how times have changed and we still have our 16:9 Grundig but it no longer responsds, could be the power supply. I have 2 Lowe standing silent.
@@MarkusSellmannschade. Socialism kills
Problem, at least in my market is that OLED keeps getting more and more expensive - while every other TV seems to still get cheaper.
So even though everyone who cares know OLED is the best for picture quality, and more is made and all that jazz, the price goes up. 55" cost the same or more than what 65 did a few years ago. At the same time I can get 85" non OLED TV for a 3rd of the price of 55 OLED
Im in the market for a new TV, after 14 years with my 50in Panasonic, which still looks great. Nothing like todays tv picture, I know, but the reliability is pretty amazing. Honestly, I couldn't some of the differences in picture you were pointing out in the video. Some looked the same at least on UA-cam. Im leaning towards Qled because my room is so bright . Your videos have been very helpful in explaining the differences between the technologies and narrowing down my choice.
Omg absolutely QLED. My 2021 Hisense U8G --VA --1600 peak nit, 370 local dimming. Went FULL Gear d other day spring day 11:30am. I did not want to shut curtain cuz the sun was out the green tree from window. I am on 5 th floor above all trees. Sooooo bright. I did test. TV went up to 100% peak. 1600 nit peak. N STUNNING. Just bright, crisp, stunning glossy elegant. THERE IS NO frigin way…LG C2 like 700 peak nit maybe 780 can do that.
Or like 2022 Sony X95K, i believe still crapy around 700 nit peak.
I dimmed my 1600 nit TV down to like 45% to get --what is OLED PEAK visual. (I also dimmed black level to make it optimized to be Crisp again).
OMG it looked horandous. Wtf it would look like $680-800 TV dim.
NO OLED for me, hell no lol.
Okay i am talking about 2021 flagship. Ppl bought Samsung S95B, last year…then they can have cake n Eat it too.
I if i were anyone i would get Hisense U8K (MINI LED) or Samsung QD-OLED.
Panasonic plasmas were legendary. I had a 42 inch 2009 model for 12 years.
@@birdtj82I would recommend OLED. Most QLED tvs have terrible colours. It doesn't compare to the vivid, accurate colours of an OLED. You're only looking at it from one position.
Same for my 15 years old Pioneer Plasma 43"! Made in Japan, of course!
After 12 years of a Panasonic 50" plasma i am going for a Samsung 65" QLED tv, also because i have alot of light in my room.
It might be a good idea to talk about how these work with games a little more. Gaming is huge nowadays.
I think we are now at the point where high-end TVs generally have little to no major drawbacks and are all fine as it is. We just have our own preconceived opinions about brands that we generally avoid. Like me, I've had issues with Samsung TVs before so I steer clear away from them while I've had favorable experience with Sony so that's what I prefer now.
My parents had this really expensive 50 inch Samsung TV in their room. And it started to get spots on the screen over time. I couldn't believe it. I was like ya'll spent on this money on this TV and look at it. After that I made a promise to myself i'd never get a Samsung TV and i've stuck to that.
No drawbacks on modern tvs? I want a 4K, 120hz TV for a PS5 and PC monitor but I am worried about burn in of OLED and QLED with the icons on PC. Any tips? I am considering the Samsung S90C or S95C 55", LG G3,
@@H2KSP That one tv from years ago made you never purchase an entire brand of tv since then and for the future? Interesting.
Still enjoying both the CX and C1. Great job explaining the pros and cons in this video.
Qd oled replaced them
Can’t wait to get my 77” LG G3 for my Theater Room in my new house!
This has to be one of the best and least biased comparisons I've seen so far. I bought a 55" LG CX brand new in 2021 on a massive discount and haven't regretted it for a single second. If a person considers themselves to be a videophile and can afford even just an entry-level OLED TV, I don't see how they can settle for anything less. Mine's paired up with an entry-level Denon Dolby Atmos AVR with Audyssey MultEQ XT room correction and secondhand but nice floorstanders front and rear and it blows the living daylights out of going to my local cinema. Couldn't be happier!
Yeah, I'm the complete opposite. I don't want a product that's amazing now but fails within 5 years. That's a waste of money.
I originally bought a OLED because I got tired of too bright TVs (they had to be turn down to around 15 to 10% bightness to be used without giving me headaches) but after experienced serious image retention Within eight months of ownership, I stopped using the OLED and went back to my 6. Year old TCL
I rather have something that works and I don't have to worry about it, name something that looks amazing but I have to worry about burn in. The stress isn't worth it.
I would bet that would come into play for me more if I didn't have the knowledge ill get more tvs each year. So I understand that and I am same way on lenses and non-tv tech
@@michael-4k4000 I often game 2 to 4 hours a day and depending on the weekend, I can no from 0 game time to 12+ hours of gaming. However the day I suffered serious image retention, (lasted over 12 hours) I was watching bleach anime. (I only watch a video content about an hour max. My TVs are primarily for gaming)
I also have all the burn in protect on. However after experiencing that, I don't want to go back to OLED. Sure my LG C1 looks superior to my TCL, but the stress isn't worth it.
I really like your comparison / helping the consumer choose videos. Well done and thank you for that.
“They are thicker at the bottom”
I just got a 65" LG C3 and I love it. Great for gaming and the blacks are amazing. I never have it at 100% brightness, even in a well lit room so idk why it would ever be an issue. So happy with my purchase. Woulda went with the 75" but it was a bit out of my price range.
Ive had a oled 2 times now and the burnin (even with the protection options) is coming basicly after couple months already.... thats why I dont go oled anymore.
Do u keep tv running all the time? Do u see the same content?
@@jjaisudhan noo just between 20:00 and 23:00 for 3 hours a day basicly diffrent content and football matches. Basicly around 6/7 months you started to see colour diffrents and burn in spots. After 1/1.5 year its basicly not ussable anymore for me. Switched now to Neo Qled from samsung for 2 years and I had no problems...
I love how the OLED look but for the cost and the burn in that’s ultimately the deal breaker. I wouldn’t be upset about the burn in if the price was similar to the Samsung QLED within a couple hundred dollars in oppose to +$1K. I’m using my PS5 and Series X majority of the time so if the gaming on it wows me on the QLED I’m fine with it.
There really is no risk of burn in with an LG OLED. Go read on rtings about it.
Yep. The burn in is still a major deal breaker.
Stop watching news channels such as cnn, fix, sky, Bloomberg, msnbc, cdisn, etc… too many static areas
I’ve had the the lg c10 for about 2 years of heavy use and no burn in so I dont think that’s a valid issue
That greenish tint you saw on that LG C7 is a flaw in older OLED TVs...I had the same thing on my C9. LG replaced my panel for free because of this. It's the heat from the TVs power and motherboards that cause it
Gross
I’m sitting in front of a perfect Panasonic PLASMA tv right now. It has to be close to 20 years old and only recently have tv’s caught up with its picture quality. No burn it. Gorgeous colors and deep blacks. I love this TV. Only reason I will get a new tv some day is for 4K.
Yep, my 60" Panasonic Viera plasma still works great and still even gets picture quality compliments. One of best tvs I've ever bought.
@@jonpenguin303 Agree!! Still using my 720p 50" Panasonic plasma from 2009. Great black levels, color saturation, and picture quality. Picture quality and contrast beats resolution any day. Only the OLEDs come close to beating it even after 15 years.
For all those baby boomer and Gex X out there might also want to remember those CRT they grew up with had the same capacity for burn-in. Typically not an issue unless you watch programming with a continuously static image or news chyron all day.
QLED has dang good local dimming and FAR SUPERIOR brightness without high risk of burn in. I got the 43" Samsung QLED TV for my PC monitor
Living room: Qled
Basement: Oled
Dark Bedroom: OLED
Agree, I have a LG C2 in my bedroom but no way would I put it in my family room. I want a tv that is vibrant and can handle EVERYTHING, and not watching in film maker mode lol
@@rct8884 Why wouldnt you put an OLED in your family room?
@@seand5517because she’s a casual
LG OLED bought in 2017. LOVE IT!!! However, screen burn in has been pretty significant. Started originally visible only with high yellow or green background, but now quite visible on most colors. Mostly due to news tickers and channel watermark logos that never change location.
OMG! Jen has clothes other than workout gear! 😂😂😂
I bought an 83" Sony A90J last year after watching your video on them. It's the best TV i've ever had.
She isn’t interested at all 😅
Just purchased QN85 Samsung QLED the other day , technology has changed since this vid , I have a dark man cave and the QLED is bright and very clear and the Q Symphony feature is awesome with the Bose 900 Soundbar and 700 sub. OLED have burn in issues, TCL and Hisense have not been around long enough to invest in a big screen tv.
Great summary. Especially liked the notes on the design and slimness of the tvs when mounted on walls
After suffering from 3 burn-in's and the huge costs to fix that each time for my first OLED TV made me understand that even if the image looks incridible on OLED it's still not worth losing so much money.
Since i'm a PC Gamer a burn-in is a complete show-stopper for me..
I remember that after i saw a video for QLED that promotes the aspect that these TV's don't have the risk for burn-in, i went full ahead with the best QLED TV that i found last year and i don't regret it, it's true that the black tone of this TV is not great, but it still gives me a great image quality and if one day there will be a balanced TV with the best features of both OLED and QLED and also won't risk me with a burn-in, i will buy that TV day1
Love your summary. I’m in the market for a tv and was reading the burn issue with OLED. Mostly everything we watch these days have some constant moniker or something that could cause burn issues. I decided that I’m going with qled
burn in becomes a big issue if you plan to use the tv as a PC monitor, especially if you use it for ~8 hours a day. The QN QLEDs also have 144Hz which is great for gaming, while the LG OLED are still limited to 120Hz. Also note that the contrast might appear better and is better on OLED but you will soon forget that once you only have one TV at home and nothing to compare it to. Heck even with my old standard backlit Bravia from 2017 I think black looks good, even though when it's completely dark you'll clearly see that black is actually more like grey and glows.
Yeah higher end QLEDs produce a nice picture and serve a purpose and can save some money or you get an OLED if you just want the best picture.
I've used multiple Plasma TVs in the past as a computer monitor -- No problem. I've used one OLED TV as a computer monitor -- No problem.
7000 hours on my old CX used for 10-12hrs per day as PC monitor never had burn in. Now on a 42 C2 with nearly 3500 hours and its fine.
That is incorrect: LED displays are not susceptible to burn-in. It is physically impossible. You may end up with something that emulates burn-in, but that is a problem with something other than the LED display itself. Plasma TVs are/were susceptible to burn in, but not LEDs.
@@-108- wrong lol, i worked in a command center where LCD LED displays were showing the same thing 24/7 and they definitely had burn in after years of being abused like that.
Good video, I have an Panasonic lz980 oled, and I don't have any issues with the brightness at all, it definitely gets bright enough for me, in a reasonably light room with lots of big windows.
Bought the samsung QN90 last year and couldn’t be happier with it. Great for movies and for gaming too. Our living room is quite bright and has a lot of windows so the brightness is really welcome. Also managed to grab it during their black friday sale for a really good price 👍🏻👍🏻
Bought a samsung qled and ended up returning it for an LG Oled. The qled looked very artifical. Recently purchased a Sony Oled and it's much better than LG.
You should mention the ABSL issue with the OLED TV's because that is an issue for me.
Not on the newer ones. I have the C2, no ABSL. You must have an older one.
@@wombat5252 ASBL exist on every single OLED. LG has reduced it in active content like movies. But it's still there and if you use it for a PC monitor, it's impossibly bad.
ABL also exist when transitioning from a dark scene to a bright one. That quick dimming from bright to dimmer on a bright scene is noticeable.
But everyone ignores flaws of OLED and only focus on "blooming" on MiniLED. Also burn-in is a factor and longevity because of it. Of course this depends on if you barely use the TV or use it a lot, and then also what type of content.
@@loki76 Doesn't exist on my C2 or then I suppose I'm blind? Yeah the blooming effect annoys me on mini LED so that's why I prefer OLED but OLED has it's flaws. I REALLY dislike the ''strobing'' effect on my OLED. This happens on them all. OLED has it's flaws too, no TV is perfect. The burn in is a lot better now than before obviously but sure, mini LED will last you longer technically.
It does actually but I deactivated mine using the LG service remote. 😬
@@loki76 The problems on QLEDs are much more horrible and in all type of scenes. The dimming side effects are a big dealbreaker. Hundreds of problems vs some problems that are not that noticable. Brightness alone makes not good picture quality. Brightness is ovrrated. The OLEDs can be very bright if needed. Full fields are rare in real content. Specially the Samsung Mini LEDs are really really bad. Tricks and stuff that fakes the picture. Killing details, faking colors, creating weird blooming or pulsaring effects.
In short: if you want an expensive lightbulb buy an old LCD technology called QLED, if you want the latest TV tech with amazing Plazma TV like picture quality you will love the OLED.
It would be nice to see the power supply unit and ports on a separate unit from the TV. It will make connections so much easier.
what seperate units would you like to see?
As someone said in the comment section before, we do not perceive blacks like how OLEDs are in real life, we see colors with shades like how QLEDs are.
I will never get a TCL again! The volume blasts one second and goes down low the next. I’m constantly turning it up and down because it literally will blast you out. I hate my tv which is why I found this video.
Get a Bluetooth portable speaker. 🔈
You don't get that much of blooming on the qn90b though. I own the tv the 55 inches in specific and I'm literally blown away. I was about to get the c2 but chose the Samsung over the c2 who was also a bit cheaper because the overall better brightness. Now in this video he didn't set the tv properly, the brightness is too high for some reason as well as the contrast. If you set the qn90b properly, you can barely understand the difference between the c2 and qn90b. The only downside is the slight more blooming when it displays bright objects in an absolute black background.
In my sixties, and noticed that my nice flat wall hanging 55' led with all the bells and whistles still shows me the same crap our 20" b&w set did back in the 60's, except its likely not going to last anywhere as long. Sports, movies and sitcoms are no more exciting to watch now than they were then...actually, it was better then
Whatever you do - DO NOT buy Samsung QLEDs. They wash out colours. You can already see it at the beginning of the video on the PS5 avatar in top right corner and UA-cam logo. I had a Q95A and returned it after two weeks. Paid a little extra and got S95B - best decision ever as far as TVs go (I suspect other OLEDS would have been great as well)
Burn in is a big problem... for that reason I think qled is a better option...
No is not 😂
I live in South Texas where 9 months of the year are sunny ( and dang hot). For the last few years, i have owned an LG CX Oled TV as the main TV for movies and videogames and even with windows all around with curtains open, it looks excellent in terms of contrast and brightness. I own an QLED TV and although has good picture quality, OLED is just much better. No regrets.
I think the U8H very close to OLED without the burn in risk .it was rated the best over all tv for 2022 in the mid range but it can compete with tv twice its price as well. nits of brightness 1500-2000 and low input lag 120hz 2.1 hdmi google and alexa the picture is amazing
i have it and i am very happy with you. display is beautiful to play games and watch movies especially in the cinema night mode. plus very strong audio quality.
I was scrambling between a Samsung QNLED vs an OLED and I had the same thoughts as you. I’d rather have a tv with awesome picture quality right now and maybe have to replace it in five years or so. Just bought a 77in Samsung S95C QNOLED and it came with a year extended warranty. Burn Baby Burn!!!
I get that the oled TV have a better picture quality overall but it isn't like it's 2 a 3 times better then an qled mini led. Honestly is is a litter better. Not night/day difference
Loving the vid's 👍 question, there is no doubt the contrast looks better on the oled but it does seem to crush blacks a lot compared to the qled? Rewatched The Batman on my Q90R and its not a black out room as it is the main living area and i am very impressed the qled. I know a starfield on the oled would destoy the 90r but the safety of no burn in and bright room performance with the new Qn95c seems like a better general performer. Am I wrong to dismiss the oled? I do watch day time and have very large windows so the tv run at 45 out of 50 brightness and this is a big fear factor with oled... Surely a qn95c will be an improvement over the q90r or do I go oled 🤔
OLED for dark room night time viewing. QLED for daytime viewing and all around viewing under all conditions is my suggestion.
I think burn in is not really a likely issue, it was my hesitation point at first too, but 65 inch CX is 2 yrs in now, and I use it a lot, no issues.
Bought a 38" Sanyo Roku TV about 7 years ago for about $120. Didn't expect in to last but a couple of years for that price. Still watching it! My point.... You don't need to spend a lot on these high end expensive TVs, unless you are just one of those that like spending money. Spend less, if it doesn't last, so what you're not out much money. On the other hand cheap TVs may last way longer than you expect.
I use my PC connected to the TV and was very close to getting the qn90b but then I heard about the rainbow smearing issue and that the sony x95k had it too, didn't know what to do! Now it seems like they've directly addressed that with the qn90c so I'll probably be pulling the trigger on that, even though the review for it from this channel wasn't too glowing. Don't know how they managed to make an IPS with the advantages of a VA but I'm impressed.
I saw the qn90c and x95k and there’s no way the Samsung is better than the 95k… the 90c seemed to wash out at an angle too. Get the x95k in 85 and u won’t regret it and have a better tv than the 90c
I bought the 90b ive had np with it beautiful tv my pc connected to it i game for 12hrs straight some times with no worries of burn in this tvs gorgeous
You don't notice the glare issue IMO when watching. It's really just when the tv is off its more evident. Those 2022 tvs are great
@@BTheInstaller Good to know to keep my options open thanks. I figured it couldn't be that bad because they're so popular and well reviewed but of course if I search for qn90b rainbow in google or youtube you will only see the bad cases.
I went with a s90c and although it might not be as good as the G3… for the price difference the quality is worth it. Best bang for buck TV on the market right now.
Waiting for you to get your hands on that TCL QM8!!
The QLED looks better to me. More natural.
I just checked out an OLED and QNED at Bestbuy. Both were LG and had the same features/plug in options. I noticed that the QNED looked better from side angles and stayed bright/the screen didn't look dark from a less ideal angle which people may experience in a living room. It also costed $400 less for the same size and brand. (65")
Oled is better bro
@@paulwatkins2333 How is it better when the viewing angle is MUCH worse? And they both have the exact same hdmi 2.1 ports, audio return hdmi port, optical audio, etc.
@@Awesome_Forceit’s just been proven time and time again that OLEDs are the best in terms of picture quality. You’re picking 1 thing that the specific tv has over an OLED and saying that tv is better. I mean if that’s all you care about is viewing angles then yeah go ahead and get that tv, or a projector that handles the viewing angles even better, but if you want the most well rounded and best looking tvs(in a dim to moderately lit room) go with an OLED. As long as it fits your needs and you are happy with the purchase then go for it!
Everyone is different. I have had 5 different OLEDs from LG, Sony, and Samsung and have loved them all. I literally just sold my 83” A90J today because I wanna try something different. Either the 98” TCL he shows at the end of the video or a 120” ust projector like the Formovie theater, haven’t decided yet. Just wanted to go bigger since we just moved into a place where we sit about 12 feet away
@@jamesadkinsiii7925 QNED also shows more detail for gaming, which is one of the main reasons for me to get another TV.
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And the price is about $400 + less than an OLED.
@@paulwatkins2333 My 2013 Panasonic plasma ZT60 beats both Oled and qled!
I definitely appreciate my wife’s “lower backside area that sticks out a little bit” 😀 Great video explaining the differences in technology.
Lol.........agreed
Your videos are great. But, when we ask whether we should buy a specific tv over another, all reviewers will just refer us to what's your use case and preferences.
I can understand that you explain very well that each tv has good and bad points and the value of the reviews is to actually sample and display all top tvs.
Rtings and Vincent of HDTV each test get into specifications and details for comparisons that inform consumers as well, but can sometimes still leave us undecided. Point is, no one can point at one tv that will satisfy everybody at the same time. I will never buy a tv over 77inches because my opinion is over 77inches is projector territory. One reason is huge tvs are difficult to handle, as you know .
Anything over 77" is projector territory? No it most certainly is not! Projectors are inferior in every way but size. You'll never get the colors, contrast, brightness and perfect blacks as an OLED or Micro LED.
@@walmartpimp2 you can get a very good projector for less than some huge tvs. I do have very good tvs too, but I also like to watch movies on a 100in screen. How much is a good 100in TV? 120in?
@@walmartpimp2 THATS NOT true.
LOOK UP 2020 Samsung Q90T, Hisense H9G…al the videos form STOP the Fomo n Quatum. Side by side comparing to LG c9 sony H900x. Its just epic. Both Samsung Q90T, Hisense H9G/Q9G already looked OLED pitch black. The only difference is that OLED ppl dont even WANT to look at it. N even if they are like :”wow,,,” its always fallowed with “but” then if there is 1 % of tiny bright something that cant match oled---in PITCH black. That is Completely GONE as soon as there is a just medium room light, or morning sun . When u need Bright TV n all the black turn to grey instea of black. That OLED cant not reach cuz their black is elevated but their BRIGHT color is like 40% as elevated as QLED. They immediatly look like $650 tv vs $2500. I have gone to store checking it out for years. Cuz year n year i am like :”this maeks no sense”.
@@charlesmyers8150 Quality over quantity. I love movies too much to watch them on some inferior device. I guess you don't love movies.
Thanks, my two cents, get an OLED, but a smaller one, for a smaller room. Most everyone ends up with a large TV in the living room, and "the other one" somewhere else and THAT one, ends up being watched--a lot. The LG 42 C2 will blow you away and below one thousand. Hard to beat, in my opinion.
Imagine what will we get in the next 10 years
I keep hearing how dim oleds are.. I upgraded to Samsung S95C QD OLED and it is not only brilliant and vibrant.. its bright. Very bright. It's brighter than the low end Samsung TU8000 that I upgraded from.
Man it's like every sentence is 4 different clips sliced together. Editing nightmare.
YES. Awesome video. I've been holding on to my notes from the last year of all the differences between QLED and OLED (QUHD, ULED for that matter), still confuses me. LOL This was a great and concise video that broke each down wonderfully. Still on the fence and will probably be ready to purchase a new TV in about 2-3 months. Seems prices are always in flux and just have to keep on the look out for the deals. Thanks again. Always enjoy your videos.
@@michael-4k4000 Thanks for taking the time to respond. I've had issues with other LG products in the past, so have been a bit leery of spending a huge amount of money on anything of theirs for a few years now. Also, not a fan of their layouts of their OS screens. For lack of a better word, they almost seem "primitive".
I've usually been a "full house" Samsung guy as well...so everything connects and works together well. Planning on upgrading my sound bar system as well when I get my new TV, so worry about compatibility mixing different brands.
However...with that said, your comments give me pause, as well as, I've just watched this video on burn in issues with OLED TV's. I remember I had a (720p...omg, how did we live with that LOL) Plasma TV about 15 years ago that had a terrible burn in problem, so I really don't want to go back to having hat issue again. The testing they're doing do suggest the LG's are fairing better with this issue overall. So will give them another look.
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In any event, it's going to another 2-3 months before I'm ready to actually lay out the money for this purchase so a lot more notes and research can be done. 😁
Thanks again for your comments. Cheers.
@dinocub1 I have the same thoughts as you. A little skeptical about lg products. I have a 10 year old samsung 55 inch lcd , still going strong. It was a top of the line back then and so it has proved . I have my eye on the G3 , but with it being so expensive for 77 inch model I have to settle for probably a 65 inch or a c2 at 77 inch. Like you I will wait , maybe till prime day and see if prices come down a bit
We bought the Samsung OLED...love it
In 2004 I got screwed when I spent $3600 on a 65" Toshiba DLP rear projection 1080p. The lamp $200 would burn out every couple of months. So I'm doing my homework this go around.
I had a great LG OLED for 8 years now from 2016. It just broke yesterday, burned out. From one minute to the next.
Ordered a samsung Neo QLED QN800c 8k today. Im absolutely excited for that screen 🤩
Gosh, I’m no better off having watched this, rapid blast of information.
When you say "only 77inches"... up to what sort of viewing distance would 77inches be good for? At what distance would it be better instead to upsize to 83/85inches? Thanks
According the rtings seating distance calculator. 10 feet is the max distance for 75/77 inches
Best TV Reviewer on UA-cam, straight up!!!
That's nice of you to say. There are a lot of smart and creative reviewers.
I have an OLED (a90j) and an x930e. Not a QLED obviously. That being said, I like my OLED, but the near black handling is not very good compared to an led/LCD/QLED. I prefer gaming on the led compared to the OLED. Yeah the instantaneous response is nice on the OLED, but the black crush can be painful at times. I miss the brightness of the led/LCD. It just punches through. At the end of the day, both of these options are great and you'll enjoy them. I'm hoping to getting a z9 from Sony at some point. Abl is also an issue when it comes to racing and sports. The dimming happens way too frequently and it's obnoxious on my a90j
Why not go for the QD OLED? It resolves most of the issues you have mentioned and it gets quite bright too.
@@suraj4020 the issues are the near black handling is still not resolved and it still doesn't touch the full field brightness of an led/LCD/qled or mini led. I don't really care to have a 5 or 10% window twinkle. Most content is full field
@@SpencersStuffTV I'm surprised. I just find OLED so far superior to that of even the best QLED's. Gaming looks SOO much better and quicker. Movies are just so much better with the contrast and color saturations. QLED is good but eh, I find OLED the best and I only have the C2. I want the G3 but it would be silly for me to spend that kind of $$ again. I'm going to wait for the G4
@@wombat5252 I'm not saying OLED is bad. It's like comparing apples to oranges. For me personally, I find the near black handling on oleds to be extremely distracting. And the abl kicking in as well. To my eye, even with raised blacks and some blooming, led colors just pop and look better to my eye. I find it looks more natural. Even compared to the qd OLED. And for gaming I've been so underwhelmed with the lack of full field brightness on my oled. For movies OLED is sensational though, can't deny it. I'm just happy we can look at both technologies and find what we like
@@SpencersStuffTV See I don't have that ''auto dimming'' thing that people complain about. That's on the older OLED's. But yeah, people have preferences. My father personally loves QLED better too and he's had both and we both get the upper tier of the models. Not the top top but near the top. I will say though I really don't like the ''strobing'' effect on OLED's though, that I notice when it does happen and it's bothersome, whereas the blooming on QLEDs is also bothersome to me. No TV is perfect.
Good video, but wouldnt it be more fair to compare the QN95C (samsung's top of the crop neo QLED) to the LG G3? the new OLED G3 or even samsung's own S95C produces brightness as good as the QN95C w/ the benefits of OLEDs. The C3 is best in its class, but the brightness will lack the QN95C as the direct comparable would been the G3/S95C.
I always wondered what is the life expectancy of an oled? I heard they can go at least 30,000 hours before they fail. My last sony lcd which is 10 years old had about 8000 hours and works great still i gave it to my mom and bought a sony oled. Sounds like the qleds can last alot longer. which makes sense considering they dont have burn in. I have the sony 48” a90k which i love so far great audio and picture its amazing.
@@michael-4k4000 yeah lg and sony are both great. I liked the audio on the sony. I think sony has the best picture processing in the buiz. but lg does a great job too. Thats good news. Ive had mine almost 7 months and havent seen any image retention or burn in yet. Yeah lg makes a great product. the s95b wouldve been my 2nd choice but it was way to expensive and i couldnt fit a 55” on my stand so i thought the a90k was still a great choice. ive always had good luck with sony products over the years
My LG CX is 3 years old now and I’ve used it religiously. It’s got 9677 hours and still looks awesome. As far as I know it has no burn in, and if it does it’s not very noticeable.
@@KRoberts1299 damn thats alot for 3 years haha. But thats good though. I dont think burn is much of a problem with the newer oleds as well. Not sure how many hours on mine. Id have to check
once you go oled you can't go back man, oled is a beauty to your eyes, you cant just get tired of looking at it
Mehh it is better overall picture wise but your statement is overrated. Look at stores, it's not jaw dropping or anything. Sometime qled even win
Thank you for the video. It was really helpful in deciding what I would buy. Waiting on G3 prices to come down a bit. I know you mentioned for sports qled would be fine but anytime I see a oled in the best buy near me I can't think of getting the qled
G3 would be amazing for sports. It's a nearly perfect TV
I was watching the heat game today, stream was so low quality 😢 can the oled save it
@@BTheInstaller appreciate your feedback and all the work you do I love the fact you simplify your content for viewers like me who want to understand what TV is good for what use case. I have seen other presentations which go into too many technical details which are good on paper but don't really make me understand what to buy. Keep up the great work. I am hoping prices for the 77 inch fall to around 3500 by thanksgiving for me to buy.
@@Dma118no the oled can not save the quality sadly
I bought an OLED and it didn't last very long before having issues, I did some research and it seems the OLED do not last as long. I thought i got a lemon, but it seems the life of OLED is shorter than other types. After three years the Monitor started to fail, it would turn off or have only lines. I couldn't get a picture in the end.
Watching on Samsung Neo QLED 8k (85") TV
How is it?
Man i wish i could find someone like you to install and mount my tv
Sony Only Sony for 55 years…never been a bad one…now smash that button
What a great video free of opinion and hyperbole!
Wow qled looks so washed out its horrible never ever again Lg❤
Wow the difference is real from QLED and OLED. OLED just looks less washed out
This OLED lies nonsense has to stop.
So you literary show in your video that QLED utterly destroys the OLED but claim the opposite.
OLED has garbage colour accuracy, OLED also has very bad contrast, or lets call it dynamic contrast (do not confuse with marketing term). What you meant is that OLED has better contrast *ratio* then QLED, but that is very different from contrast. Contrast ratio is just a division of brightest and darkest pixel, but that doesnt tell you how good or bad the screen performs in contrast (or lets call it luminosity levels). Yes OLED has the ability to turn off the pixel and that means that you get the darkest black possible, which is in reality of cinema pretty useless. Why? Well, human eye needs some level of light to be able to distinguish the form, black is NO INFORMATION. Thats and also how the film material is working means, that you will never see total black in any movie. And now comes the big big problem of the OLEDs bad contrast, it is the luminosity levels just above the turned off pixel. OLED is unable to do so, the very next level to black is already too bright. OLED TVs do mask this step by darkening scene in shadow area, so you dont get the very bad posterization effect. The problem is that you also loose the information in shadows. Therefore OLED is absolutely unfit for dark movies, yes the black is scary, but you dont see anything else...
While the QLED doesnt have the ability to fully darken a single pixel, it has much better control over the steps right above the darkest black it can produce, so a lot of information is preserved in shadows. You can easy see it in this video as well.
OLED does have the very same problem in very bright areas, like sky with clouds. Clouds are never as bright on OLEDs then on QLED, despite the ability of OLED to achieve higher luminescence levels, the white is dimmed down to prevent the posterization effect.
Both described effects are clearly seen in your video side by side (yes I do understand the low dynamic range of the camera, but still you can see the difference).
And the much bigger difference where the OLED is a total garbage is the colour accuracy. What? OLED has the best colours, are you blind?
Well, OLED has popping colours, the problem is that such colours are non existent in real world. Yes OLED can do better artificial colours like neon colours, but it can never display accurate skin tone, or accurate plant green (yes on OLED the green forest is even greener, lol). And no, you cant tweak the OLED to accurate natural colour, it is the nature of the beast how OLED is working.
While even cheapest QLED has dE less then 1.5, I never measured a OLED that reached anything close to dE 2.0 (which is considered as a minimum to somewhat accurate colours), mostly dE 3.5 area is OLED best performance.
You dont believe me? So look at the youtube logo or CNN logo on a OLED, it will be a very unnatural red, popping yes, but both logos are a printable red, the red you will see on OLED is NOT pritable due to nature of subtractive light... While on QLED the red will be accurate, with slight orange tint as it should be (but even some QLEDs sometimes do have strange "make the colours pop" garbage filter turned on).
Or look at the baseball scene in this video how artificial the grass is, or the basketball stand green, yes that green you cant buy in form of a paint, how in the world did they achieve such a colour finish? Hm.. OLED magic? LOL
So here comes the secret why every "expert" is forcing OLED on you, OLED is produced by a inkjet printer, printing directly on substrate, very cheap manufacturing process, much much cheaper then QLED (which is LCD+area dimming LEDs), so yes you should pay more for cheaper tech.
But hey, the black is darker, the grass is greener, sky is bluer people are finally not white privileged, all OLED magic right?
I got bored. Start your own channel.
@@BTheInstaller yes it is clear you got bored, just making content for a sake of content.... Im not like you...
@madigorfkgoogle9349 bored with that book you wrote.
@@BTheInstaller bored with lie flick you made.
also worth talking about is PMW which q-led tv's use.... and oled do not.
you might not see it.... but it is there.... and it can make your eyes tired.
Dude even TVs are racist, this whole video explains us that basic TVs don't display blacks proprely
so which one is better? my brain fried after those 1000 words per minute review
Just to correct a small point: DVD doesn't have HDR. As a matter of fact, it has less color information than even Blu-ray. Some Blu-rays will have a form of HDR that sometimes uses an older YrPrBr mode in order to get a bit more color range (Sony did this with their "Mastered in 4K" Blu-rays), but typically if you want true HDR content, you have to have a streaming service (and the right package) or to buy the movie on Ultra HD Blu-ray.
I love this review, I've saved it and will come back to it as I'm in the hunt for an 85" TV. What's the refresh rate of the LG OLED TV? Finally, the TV stand, I love the stand that you use for your middle TV- LG OLED, what's the name, and where can I get it? Thanks.
To me, the "brightness" is actually a different in brightness, rather the QN95C looks washed out over the LG. LG definitely has better contrast there.
Im old school and still watching my Pioneer ELITE PRO-1160HD and I absolutely love the picture quality and temperature. Oh and the speakers on it are awesome also.
Those are good but everyone that eventually upgrades to an OLED tv tells me how much better oled is
Hi big fan. I’m ready to buy an Oled. Has the Lg C2 ever been cheaper than $1496.00 ever in the recent past? Should I wait more or just buy it now??? Thanks
Wait Black Friday n go to Best Buy or sum that’s what I did for my qled
Ya but the OLED also auto dimm in low-light pictures, which for LG (called TPC) can't be turned off without voiding the warranty, etc. And, for those watching movies, I just can't see that dark pictures like horror movies etc. would be a good thing. In that regard, I think an LCD is best.
I have the Nintendo Switch on an OLED - and WOW! If I could get a Bigscreen T.V. with the way the OLED’s screen looks, then I wouldn’t mind at all.
Nice comparison OLED will always be better not too bright just enough much better watching in dark room, Brandon what brand of tv console drawer you used in QN95C? thanks in advance 😊
Wfym too bright do you even walk outside it's at least 10 times higer nits outside then best consumer tv