THE BYRDS - TURN! TURN! TURN! | REACTION
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A flawless pop/rock song. That instrumental break is masterful. Still sounds fresh 56 years later. When rock was young and vital. Fantastic in any era. Jingle-jangle heaven.
And the reference "I swear it's not too late" for the Vietnam era, the only non-scriptural words in it.
Well Tim Dienes, also "turn, turn, turn," is not scriptural either! Lol!
One of the first Folk-Rock songs ever recorded. Written by Pete Seeger in the 50s and then Byrds led by a banjo player from Chicago Jim(Roger)McGuinn record it probably on a 4 track tape machine. It was years ahead of it's time, sounded very modern when it came out.
Ecclesiastes 3, right? It's your time to dance Chod.
So beautiful tho I think Pete Seeger first turned it into a song.
After Dylan got with the group that became known as The Band and his folk music became electrified, the movement from folk became better known as Folk Rock. Groups like The Birds, Buffalo Springfield The Turtles, The Lovin' Spoonful emerged. Later and only a bit later The Mamas and the Paps left the East Coast for SoCal, David Crosby, Stephen Stills and Graham Nash were introduced to each other as possible band mates by Mama Cast and the whole West Coast contributions to the genre kicked into gear. It was a lot more complicated this this little paragraph could ever contain, but that is a part of the gist of the cultural/musical mix of the mid 60s.
A powerful song in its day. Another great 60s group is The Association! (Try Along Comes Mary - studio version.)
There was a huge leap both technically and musically between 1960- 1970. Multitracking, effect devices, and home stereos for the listener to enjoy the experiments, sounds going from ear to ear. Also the bands knew their history. Beatles took everything from music hall to motown and rock 'n' roll. Byrds went on to create the foundation of country rock.
Just a reminder to revisit their song "Eight Miles High"
This time, try the album version
The one that has lyrics
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A beautIful song that ment a lot to me as a teen. It gave me hope. It still does. This is my era of music. It is 60s.
David Crosby from CSN&Y is in it. They did a lot of covers of Dylan too. They did what is considered the first psychedelic song, "Eight Miles High" They were HUGE!
Roger McGuinn virtually single-handedly popularized the Rickenbacker 12-string guitar with his distinct sound. David Crosby went on to join with some fellows named Stills and Nash, and sometimes a Mr. Young, to also produce some rather iconic music.
Roger didn't buy a Rickenbacker until he heard George Harrison playing one. I would say both of those guys brought that sound to popularity.
He had it with the New Christy Minstrals, the Byrds and on a recent pbs special of 60s music! Not sure if was the same one! I love guitars and rickenbacker are hard to find! Susanna hoffs of the Bangles also plays one......
The music is awesome...the lyrics are deep and meaningful...and the whole of the song is calming
It's a verses from the Bible, ecclesiastes 3:1-8
I think the word you're looking for is simplistic. Songs of this era were simplistic when compared to later songs but the songs of this era formed the base that the later songs built on. So, absolutely, you have to evaluate songs in regards to their time frame. The only comparison is how these older songs enabled the latter songs to be written and performed. On top of that there's the advance of technology that was constantly happening.
Thank you for that! Just what I was thinking...
Taken almost word for word out of the Bible.
1964. The same year the Beatles made their debut in the U.S.
Rush wasn't as big on the charts as you think they were. They had an audience but they truly were just another great band. The Byrds INVENTED a sound.
I don't understand all this Rush love. They were just another band and had the worst vocalist of his time.
For a great history lesson find the documentary "the wrecking crew" they were the studio musicians that cut all the pop tunes in the 60s. But then the rock people started wanting more control and started writing and recording their own music, put those guys outta business. Now it's back to pop music being recorded by studio musicians again. What comes around goes around.
Sounds a bit like how I feel about Elvis - I don't care for his music and have never really understood the hype, but I also respect that without him, half of what I *do* like wouldn't even exist.
Another foundational track to check out: "You Really Got Me," the Kinks. Literally invented fuzzy guitar tone.
It was a progression Chod. When this song came out stereo wasn’t even a thing yet. Like you said this earlier music was the foundation for bands like Rush or Led Zeppelin. The Beatles influenced most music in the 1960''s including the Byrds and this song sounds similar to the Beatles early stuff.
Hi, Laurie.Actually, this song WAS recorded in stereo. The story I heard is that the stereo master was lost until, about, 15 years ago, when it was found in a mis-labeled box in the collection of Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys. Up until then, the only available version was the highly compressed mono version that was EQ'd especially for AM radio. It worked.This song used to come flying out of the speakers when it played. Here is a link to the stereo version, I think you'll find it to be much more enjoyable.
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I think you will like "Walk Away Renee" by The Left Banke
Love that song!
@Lauren Peck Or possibly, "She May Call You Up Tonight"
I love left banke and the four tops version both are great!
That 60s sound was so unique.
Such meaningful lyrics.Another forever song.
The Byrds came out of the "Folk" tradition. They were one of the first to electrify "folk music." They covered Bob Dylan songs. I would say that their sound follows more along the lines of Peter, Paul, and Mary, The Seekers, etc.
1964 is a key component but still way ahead of its time and important in Rock History.
It was actually 1965.
@@lesbos1 And almost 1966 Turn! is the second album by the folk rock band the Byrds and was released in December 1965 on Columbia Records
This is one of the songs that I listened to when I was going through a hard time. Knowing that everything passes. Good , bad and bittersweet times.
This is folk rock music and should be in a completely different category as Rush. So it's almost apples to oranges in their style. This song right here spoke to the Vietnam generation in a profound way. This year, 1967 begins THE DECADE of explosive growth of rock music. They are part of the founding fathers and mothers of modern rock. Mad respect.
The Byrds were one of the groups that started what became progressive rock. I think you might be overly focused on the sound not being seemingly as "advanced" as later 70s music but part of it is that the lyrics and theme fit a more of a folk rock style than a more hard rock sound. They had many other songs in the late 60s such as "Eight Miles High" and "Mr. Tambourine Man" that had a harder rock sound. They definitely were a groundbreaking group. They have lots of songs to hear and covered numerous Bob Dylan songs.
The Fabulosv 60's!!!!!
This year has certainly been "a time to refrain from embracing".
Far more important than the primitive sound is the sophisticated message.
David Crosby was also a member of the Byrds before joining CSNzy later on in the decade!
Incredibly moving and significant song for the ages.
I see where your coming from Chad. Rock and roll hadn't been around that long when these groups came out. I think the style back then was more on the message of the song. And the vocals. The music itself took a back seat. You don't hear many Guitar solos and such from the late 50s to mid 60s groups. The thing that's great about these songs are the message being put out there can be dark,. But the music alot of times didn't make the song feel that way. Thanks for giving your honest opinion on this era of music. I grew up on this. It was new to us.but we had nothing to compare it to like the greats that came after. Longevity really didn't happen but for a few groups. Beetles, Stones, ect. But I think if you listen to their early stuff, it's not that much different than groups like the Byrd's, Paul Rever and the Raiders, The Turtles, ect. Keep doing what your doing and thank you for some good memories.
They were a great folk rock band. And the message of the song is important too.
The good thing for those of us who grew up when the songs were popular is that we can place the music in its proper time perspective-the Byrds were not only influential but very innovative in their style-plus they were a huge influence on would be 60s garage bands at the time.
Bands like this paved the way correct. Real meanings lyrics purpose and direction. I don’t know about Rush but the Byrds have no gimmicks. This is political music also. Meaningful
Normally, the obvious choice for the next Byrds song would be "Mr.Tambourine Man", but I suspect you might be prefer something by them that's a little later, or at least might be interested in hearing another side of them. So I'm going to recommend "Have You Seen Her Face" or "Goin' Back".
The unmistakable jangle of a McGuinn's Rickenbacker 12-string
It’s a evolution of rock and roll, born in the 50’s, refined in the 60’s and perfected by the 70’s. Everything that came later was refined with technology and what came before. It all matters!!!
Pete Seager wrote the song in 1959. Lyrically way ahead of it's time for 59. Vocally it's good, I always felt that the overall sound production wasn't clear? Maybe just me? It's a good Hippie movement song! Thanks for sharing.
I was a teenager during this era, and the elders would say what are these hippies sing about? Never realizing it was words from the bible ! ***
I know you will follow up on their history. A few quick facts: David Crosby of CSN&Y was a founding member of the group in LA. AND they are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.!!!
Great reaction. Know your history.
The Birds were one of the first bands to electrify and "rockify" folk music, thus inspiring other artists in Laurel Canyon (CA). Check out the documentary 'Laurel Canyon' for an insight into that CA scene.
Your reaction is valid and I'm glad you don't pretend that every old song is the greatest. But the comparison to Rush isn't really a good one, because the idea of music like this was to actually say something meaningful.
Are you suggesting Neil Peart wasn't saying meaningful things in RUSH?
And it’s folk rock. They were the first folk rock band.
@@ChrisMaxfieldActs Yes.
Jim (Rodger) McGuin’s 12 string Rickenbacker is the “jangly” guitar sound that you hear. It is an electric guitar that has what is termed a semi-hollow guitar body, giving the instrument its distinctive sound. The Byrds influenced many artists including Tom Petty, who also played the Rickenbacker.
Album credits: Gene Clark, Michael Clarke, David Crosby, Chris Hillman, and Roger McGuinn. Go see where they ended up.
Yes Chod the timeline is very important as is the genre they were filling. I don't know how you do it but it;s very cool how your reactions don't get blocked like other reactors. Love your style.
TRUST ME ON THIS ONE MY MUSIC LOVIN BROTHER,, THE BLACKBYRDS "WALKING IN RHYTHM"
Very wise words from Solomon that he wrote down and that was put in the Bible. "There is a time for everything. A time to laugh and a time to cry. A time to gain a time to lose."
Music like all art is a reflection of something.
It comes out of the time, not just in construction but environment.
This song comes out of the events, feelings, questions of it's time, a time of war, upheaval, change, seeking peace
- It is an Answer to the Questions of their time.
Their answer in themselves and their world. And a good one. Even if it doesn't translate the same way now. It certainly did then. And that's part of how to not judge but observe, and listen to it
I don't know, while you can say music has "advanced" since then ( at least it did until the 80s), I still enjoy classics like this much more than most songs that came later. To each his own I guess.
I spent 176 hours, 43 minutes and 17 seconds researching The Byrds. Epically Important Band. They're Great.
Could you please react to, oh,.......nevermind.
I'm very glad you look at the music contextually for the time period viewing these early bands as "pioneers". If you didn't, anyone could view bands such as this or the Beatles as "basic" when in fact they influenced so many bands and artists that followed them. Thank you for your broad scope perspective when critiquing these early bands.
Great song! :)
Pete Seeger wrote the song! The one video of this song you should watch and listen is Judy Collins singing this on Pete Seeger's TV show! Beautiful voice singing a great rendition of it!
Chronology has its place in understanding music.
Studio production in 60’s was shit, compared. This was IMPECCABLE for the day. Thank you for a little google and sounding more prepared than most reactors.
To your point, when the movie Citizen Kane first came out, it introduced a number of innovative filming techniques. The innovations have been used so much, for so many years, that the film (from a cinematography point of view) seems ordinary or standard when you look at the film now. You are so right about those who paved the way. The influence of Django Reinhardt on Les Paul is pretty evident, and the influence of Les Paul's version of the electric guitar is in just about all of the music you are reacting to.
Look at what the members did with subsequent bands.
1965. Pete Seeger, RIP. Heh, I have that album on vinyl. Packed away in a box. Haven't played it in decades. Picked it up in 1983 at what more or less was an estate sale. I was a teenager exploring the music from the time before I was born. Dig that picture of David Crosby wearing an oversized frock thing and Roger McGuinn in those square framed glasses. Michael Clarke wearing a tie and looking like Brian Jones. Mop tops! I used to play guitar with the youth group at church back then. We tried slipping this song into the program once but the director stopped us. So we slipped in a few passages from Pink Floyd's The Wall instead and he never knew the difference!
There were a lot of genres of rock music in the 60's - including Latin rock, folk rock (which this song is), blues rock, country rock, surf rock, rockabilly and southern rock and more. They weren't necessarily sequential but were all happening at the same time.
When people ask about what to listen to by a particular artist...say someone like Bowie or the Beatles...I always recommend starting at the beginning and working chronologically. This way it is easier to see the progress as it happened. The same should be done with rock n roll in my opinion. SO much happened within a 10 year span. It is quite incredible really....and like you said, it is easy to overlook those who paved the way. Things sound way different...due to musical styles and influences, technology, society....so many factors. I liken it to basketball. Look at films of Kobe or Labron....then go back to jordan...then to Walt Frazier, Jerry West. By the time you get to Bob Cousy, things look a little ridiculous. But it was a diffe4nt game. Each of these guys HAD to be in order for the game and the players to evolve. same with music...
How come a young Millennial like you "gets" this 60s music? love you!!!!
Cuz its good music?
‘A time to refrain from embracing’ Sounds like the past year! 😜
The Byrds and Buffalo Springfield paved the way for bands like The Eagles and Linda Ronstadt. LA country rock.
This is a Pete Seager song. The words come from the book of Ecclesiastes in the Old Testament.
You should hear their cover of Dylan’s Mr. Tambourine Man.
Bro, this song came out in 1965, the same year the Beatles released Help. And The Byrds have nothing to do with Rush whose first album came out in 1974, almost a decade later. They are not predecessors of Rush or bands like Rush. They don't even play similar music. The Byrds were not out to 'rock' you. They were a socially concious folk rock band. The Byrds are more like predessors of Crosby Still Nash & Young, since David Crosby was actually in the Byrds. You have to put all mid and late 60s music against the backdrop of the Vietnam War. When these bands used the word 'peace', they were not just looking for the best rhymes. They had friends coming home in body bags. They meant those words.
When you say that The Byrds paved the way for later bands you’re right. But NOT for Rush or Zep. You have to take into account the genre. This was folk rock....the very beginnings of it. It’s in the line of Simon and Garfunkel, Mamas and Papas, CSNY, Jackson zbrowne, James Taylor....early Eagles. Blues led to blues rock..,.Hendrix, The Stones, Zeppelin, Deep Purple etc etc I think psychedelic rock morphed into prog rock... moody Blues, Rush, Pink Floyd. Lots of different strands to “rock” and which early bands influenced which later ones
This always plays in Vietnam era movies.
I appreciate your candor and your thoughtful and insightful reactions. In this case, we are all now much too jaded and bands like the Bryrds are falling away because we're too used to the vocal acrobatics and the technical effects. Kudos on another awesome review.☮️👍
This song was done on a 4 track tape player, with only Roger McGuin and David Crosby on the track. The Wrecking Crew laid down the music.
Absolutely wrong.Please do not perpetuate this false narritive.Several members of the Wrecking Crew played on Mr.Tambourine Man & it's B side ONLY.
This song was taken from the Book of Ecclesiastes by Pete Seager. The Byrds livened it up a bit.
The lyrics were taken from a passage from the book of Ecclesiastes (3:1-8) in The Bible
It wAs first song with electric 12 string guitar
Also try the Vipers Skiffle Group 'Don't You Rock Me Daddy-o'. Great fun!
Our grandparents dealt with social upheaval as well, and it's reflected in their, and " our" musical history, just saying. love your videos.
If you're liking folk-rock, then maybe you should check out Lindisfarne? A colossus of English folk-rock in the 70's & 80's. 'Meet Me On The Corner', 'All Fall Down', 'Lady Eleanor', 'Clear White Light', 'Winter Song', 'Scarecrow Song', 'We Can Swing Together', 'Run For Home'... oh, there's loads, lol.
"Paving the way" is one thing, living in the time period, not knowing how that would all end up is another. they didn't know they were paving the way anymore than they were paving a sidewalk. It was THEIR time. It's not even paving the the way, it's creating and performing in the moment of the their time. The lyrics were a gentle protest of injustices, borrowed from the bible. Pete Seeger, famous folk musician, wrote this song. You're right, judging the music way out of context based on one's own modern value system, [or lack of an educated one], musical expectations, etc., is a great disservice to the musicians, and the music and it's lyrical content/meaning of the times. Like "Oh gee, I don't like this, it doesn't sound like Uptown Funk." Well duh, it was 1965....There are so many details involved in this era that are ignored, and constant redefinitions of what is Classics Rock. A term created by the corporate owned radio station network that leave the Byrds and earlier work [i.e. Chuck Berry] completely OFF the so called holy grail list they christen "classic rock. " so who said they had a right to determine what is or is not "classic?" Like comparing Beethoven to Duke Ellington...makes no damn sense at call. Okay, look those guys up too!!!! there was a time when there was no electric guitar....double duh!
The 60's music was more melody driven. That is why harmony vocals were so predominant.
David Crosby of Crosby, Stills and Nash was in this group.
Classic 12 string sound ! 😊
Just remember, people. War for the sake of war is absolutely terrible. And this is coming from an Army veteran
I feel this song is perfect as is. No need to “evolve” this into something more modern. It stands the test of time.
Technology in the 60s wasn't what it was in the 70s either.
Music production and recording techniques improved over time, but the best rock n roll songs are not complex productions like Rush, but capture a mood and spirit like this one. And being catchy doesn't hurt.
Gene Clark was a treasure, simply irreplaceable.
Most of the lyrics in this song are word for word out of the bible.
THE LEAD SINGER WAS ROGER McGUINN AND IF YOU WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER MORE CONTEMPORARY SONG BY HIM YOU MIGHT WANT TO TRY KING OF THE HILL BY ROGER McGUINN AND TOM PETTY CONTRIBUTES VOCALS ON THAT PARTICULAR SONG. AND THE SONG ITSELF IS EXCELLENT.
Absolutely love the 'jingle-jangle' guitar sound of Roger McGuinn: a 12 string Rickenbacher electric played with a banjo finger picking technique and lots of compression.
I think the music in mid 60's in the US is significantly different than the mid-60's in the UK. The influences here were more rock and roll (Elvis/Jerry Lee etc) or folk (Pete Seeger/Dylan,etc). In the UK, the youngsters were CRAZY about US black Blues and R&B. I believe THAT is the historical influence you are looking for that led to the Rolling Stones, Who, Yardbirds and my favorite band, the Small Faces. I sound like a broken record, but PLEASE look into the Small Faces. They were only around for a little more than 3 years, but were profoundly influential and ahead of their times. They changed up their musical style often and loved to experiment with different sounds. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant idolized Steve Marriott (Plant has been quoted as saying "He wanted to be Steve"). Plant used to be kind of a groupie who followed the band around, and Page asked Marriott first to be the lead singer in his new Band (LZ), but Steve said no. Zepplin copied SF's version of "You Need Lovin" almost exactly (Steve said he was astounded when he heard it on the radio) for "Whole Lotta Love" (minus the fancy guitar work and orgasmic moaning of Plant). That's a good place to start. Then in 1967 when people discovered LSD, they came out with "Itchicoo Park" which was the first record to include 'phasing", which they did by wrapping the tape around a chair (I think). By 1968, Marriott wanted to go heavier so they had a couple fantastic power pop singles - "Tin Soldier" (which Mojo Magazine lists as one of the top 10 singles ever), and "Song of a Baker" off their best selling album "Ogden's Nut Gone Flake", which is truly innovative itself in the same year as Srgt. Pepper's by the Beatles. They broke up in 1969 due to artistic differences between the two main songwriters Marriott and Lane, plus the fact Steve felt he could never dump his teen idol image unless he left the band, so formed Humble Pie with his protege Peter Frampton (another disgusted teen idol). The remaining Small Faces added Ronnie Wood on guitar and Rod Stewart on vocals and became the Faces. In the history of Rock, for a short time, the Small Faces were a perfect little band.
Sadly most Americans have never heard of them as they never came to the US. THANK YOU for your consideration.
October of 65 was the release , but what's a year between friends . lol
Didn't seem like you liked it , but that's ok . There was something for everyone back in
that time . You had The British Evasion , Motown, Folk Rock , The San Francisco Sound,
Stax Records, The Wrecking Crew , The Girl Groups of the early sixties , DooWop, Muscle Shoals, Prog Rock later on in the early seventies . Not to mention the endless 1 and 2 hit wonders.etc... Amazing era for popular music to say the least. Peace.
IT'S TIME FOR PEACE I SWEAR IT'S NOT TO LATE!
Good review, got to remember the lack of advanced equipment and recording processes at that time. Just hanging mics etc. so raw, real talent ! 👍
I appreciate the reactions of younger people of color to Civil Rights music like this. The writer, Pete Seeger, was basically persecuted (by the government) for standing up for Civil Rights. The politics of the time resemble ours way too much, but things can only improve if we stand up against this BS.
Vietnam brought us some wonderful music if nothing else. Thank you peace ✌️
Ecclesiastes at it's best.
You can't separate the songs from their historical, socio-cultural contexts.
The guy in the cape is David Crosby of Crosby, Stills and Nash.
Folk icon Pete Seeger wrote the melody for Turn Turn Turn- the words are from the Book of Ecclesiastes.
They were the first folk rock band. Except for Dylan there was no electrified folk at the time. They were groundbreaking. Their harmonies influenced groups like Rush.
It was hearing the Byrds Mr Tambourine Man and what the Beatles were doing that allegedly turned Dylan electric
@@peters7025 I forget when he went electric at Newport.
@@TheDivayenta 1965. The infamous Judas gig was 1966 in Manchester. But he always wanted to be a rock and roll guy. His band got turned off by the teacher at school for being too loud lol
Nice save!
A great review......
I don't get why people think complicated music = better music. Simple classics like this are timeless. I'm young and only heard this recently after hearing tons of modern stuff. Songs that sound like this are actually still being made today and they don't suck. Music is subjective though I suppose.
spot on