this movie should be called "Sierra Burgess Gets An Ending She Doesn't Deserve (and is also a loser)" Twitter: / thedmatthews Instagram: / dylanwillnotparticipate
God YEAH. Cat fishing is not that big of a deal actually if you really connect :) You’re inherently ugly if you’re not skinny, are in band, or are smart (???) Sexual assault is okay if it’s with a guy! Being a bully is excusable if they have a kind of hard home life :(
Tegan Riley I know! Her character is literally disgusting. Oh, I catfished someone, kissed someone without their consent, sexually assaulted someone, made fun of my friend in front of the entire school, completely dissed the only person who’s ever hung out with me, faked a disability, but because I’m “ugly”, “fat” and a “loser” I can get away with everything because I wrote a song about flowers. She didn’t even APOLOGIZE to VERONICA OR JAMIE. The one person she DID apologize to was the person she hurt the least. Then, her apology was “I’m sorry I suck so much.” Again, she’s trying to make people pity her. She’s actually not unattractive, she’s not that fat, but she’s a loser because of her personality.
The Dark Overlord I struggle with my weight constantly. I starved myself for months in the past without telling anyone my insecurities. I never felt pretty or skinny or anything. My comment wasn’t trying to shame anyone who struggled with their appearance, which I now see that it may come across that way. It was saying how no matter how insecure you are about how you look, it is not an excuse to be a jerk to people.
I mean..idk what you look like but regardless if you weren’t conventionally attractive, the way you talk or think ab yourself reflex on you and you should definitely think more highly of yourself :)
@@Meg-bw3yx I hope I don't sound insensitive, but exercising regularly is underrated. I had a terrible diet (Ate whole large pizzas by myself), and was involved in school sports, and I stayed - my specific - healthy weight range. Now, with quarentine, I don't get as much exercise, but I still do, and I eat healthy, but I gained 20 pounds. ╮( . ❛ ~❛.)╭
imagine if sierra was a guy. this would literally be a creepy thriller movie, not marketed as a high school love story. she literally sexually assaulted jamie and posted very private things about veronica and was forgiven because she’s not “thin” and she wrote a song.
in a lot of romance movies the guy is a creep. the most well-known romance movie, the notebook, ryan gosling's character is constantly manipulating her. men and women in romance movies are always up to some shit
@@syd7608this. It’s kinda in the name of the genre too lol, but romance movies and romcoms often romanticize obsessive or manipulative behavior and advertise it as “real” love, when usually it’s infatuation or lust
This. I actually would've liked it if the movie was focused on her. She had way more depth and interesting conflicts going on in her life. Like, she has an overbearing mother who clearly is projecting her old high school glory days onto her, she has to maintain a popular girl persona at school, she gets into relationships with shitty guys as a result of her crappy circumstances, etc. But she becomes a better person at the end. Veronica's movie would've been about a teenage girl who is forced to do and put up with crappy things she doesn't want, but learns to develop a backbone, embrace herself for whom she is, and stand up to her shitty mom and boyfriend. That's a way better coming-of-age story than a manipulative walking sack of greasy shit that is Sierra Burgess.
"let's make a huge service to our overweight audience by making movie where a fat girl *manages* to get a boyfriend but only because she catfishes him. not that she's a jerk of course, it started by 'accident', what was she supposed to do?"
the casting call for these describe what appearance they’re looking for and and it’s the actors choice if they want to audition or not. they also do her makeup and dress her in a way that makes her a plain jane.
23louuu but it’s not ‘20 years ago’ is it? no one would have said anything because that’s how society was like 20 or so years ago, they saw that shitty behaviour as ‘romantic’. Society is different today so we see things differently today
Pro tip: when you’re apologizing, don’t make it about you. “Sorry I suck so bad” isn’t a decent apology. That’s just guilt tripping by being down on yourself, making it about you and not what you did. If the self deprecation bit is genuine because you feel like you’re a sucky person for doing bad things, and you need that to be a part of the apology to express the shame you feel - mention it after taking responsibility and apologizing for the things you actually did wrong. Own up to the consequences of your actions, don’t victimize yourself. “Sorry I was a bad friend, and did those things. I suck” is worlds better, and even that’s half-assed and only just passable.
@@jennifergarcia2710 apology videos be like *audible sigh* I didn't want to make this video, but I have to address some things or else I'll lose clout. Recently some allegations have come out about me that're totally true, but I'm either going to deny them or say they're true, but offer a million excuses and reasons. I was in a bad place and I'm sorry that you got offended.
Yes. This. If Veronica started dating Jamie, it would make so much more sense, and it’d be so much more realistic. Like, Sierra should’ve gotten a restraining order, or at least been sued for sexual assault, AT LEAST.
@@jahidlm7910 Veronica did not like him at the beginning but once her character started to develop and she stopped caring about popularity it's implied that she could've liked him had it not been because she did not want to hurt Sierra. At one point in the movie Veronica says Sierra is lucky to have found a smart and nice guy, after she says this Sierra gets kinda jealous and asks Veronica if she likes Jaime. All of this on top of the fact that during her date with Jaime Veronica seemed to be touched by how nice and chivalrous he was because at the time the guy she was interested in was a douche. They had good chemistry and I absolutely agree on the fact that if Jaime had to end up with one of them Veronica would have been a much better choice however I'm not sure of how good their relationship could have been because they did not seem to have much in common.
Sierra is not even ugly. She’s pretty in a normal, girl-next-door way. The whole drama of her being “ugly” because she’s just a little overweight is ridiculous and not buyable at all.
@@fightingmedialounge519What else does she need to take care of besides, like OP said, arguably weight? I think she's not really ugly, just not highly (read: unrepresentative of normal population) attractive like the other actors and styled unflatteringly
@@katatat2030 her hair, clothes, even simple things like rembering to wipe the toothpaste off her face. When I say she's ugly, I'm not talking about physical deformities, but rather just how generally not taking care of herself.
@@TheMimiandbb please tell me your joking. Obviously the actor has to look that way for the the role. We're talking about how the character looks within the movie.
Dylan's idea of killing Veronica so Sierra can use her dead body to trick Noah makes a more interesting plotline than what this movies actually plot is...
I agree that the ending should’ve been her single and made up with her friends. I just feel like they glossed over the problem of catfishing and kissing him without consent. It’s just too much.
Thank god it’s not only men who feel this way. It’s somewhat sexist even. Like guys are just manipulatable idiots, and it’s okay to stalk and lie to them. Even though this dude seems like a good dude.
I was talking to a friend who wasn't understanding why I thought this movie was disgusting. She thought it was cute... I just said "Ok- switch the genders." "Oh". Yeah. Nothing about this movie is ok... I was actively rooting against SB the entire time.
It's kinda frustrating how the obvious is not seen unless those magic words are uttered we overlook this aspect so much and let it pass unchecked most of the time because she's a 'girl' and 'how mich damage can a girl do' because evidently a lot of damage and wreckage can come from one seemingly innocuous girl it's not okay!
Yea, Imagine a chunky guy with his quarterback best friend catfishing a veronica. That awful kiss scene but it's a reddit moderator kissing, ew no thanks.
I dont understand how people can think this movie is "romantic" this is NOT a romance at all wtf....and peoplz that think the inverse must be young, and thats even scarier
The ONE thing that just made me so angry was how entitled Sierra was. I can’t shake that the girl who has been so mistreated/misunderstood has such a superiority complex.
It happens. Basically pick me girls incarnate lol. It's a way of coping with feeling out of place, feeling like shit from bullying or whatnot, by convincing/lying to yourself that you're only the odd one out because people don't understand how special and amazing you actually are or whatever, instead of being the pariah because you're ugly and/or have a shitty personality. Ignorance is bliss after all... lol
Eugenia Verónica Bonsembiante lmao that's what i was going to say! i think it mostly got famous before it came out because it was a Netflix original, and they advertised the hell out of it, plus it had Noah centineo in it-- but once it actually came out, pretty much everyone realized it was some shit.
dontdrink tapwater I think it’s because there aren’t a lot of protagonist that are more than a size two, even if the protagonist is a garbage person. Something that bothers me though is that, yeah she’s over weight, but she’s still really pretty and could easily get a boyfriend in real life. If they’re going to call someone ugly that person better actually be ugly.
1. Catfished him by talking to him without correcting him about who she is 2. Got the girl he thinks she is to fake webcam with him 3. PRETENDED TO BE DEAF and faked sign language 4. Convinced the other girl to go on a date with him, then followed them everywhere and listened in so she could feel like she was on the date too? 5. SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HIM by switching with the other girl and kissing him while his eyes were closed 6. Ignores/bails on her one real friend 7. Gets pissed off when the other girl kisses the guy, even though SHE SET IT UP FOR THEM TO BE FAKE-REAL DATING 8. Decides to get revenge on this other girl she's supposedly been friends with by being nasty and publicly humiliating her, doing so by interrupting the football game and ruining it for not only the guy she likes but also everyone else there in general 9. Loses everyone because of her own actions, so she sobs about how she's the victim here because HER life is so hard because she's not thin. I get that societal beauty standards send the message that like you're ugly/unworthy if you don't look a certain way, I do, but nothing that happened happened because of the way she looks. Everything that happened was because of her actions and the horrible things she did and the way she treated people. You can't do a bunch of awful things and then bring that up as an excuse and try to claim you're the real victim here because of how you look. So she... 10. Learned NOTHING about treating other people like objects for her own selfish benefit, lying, manipulating people, taking responsibility for her own actions 11. Is STILL manipulative as shit when she makes up with her best friend by doing this shitty, fake apology designed to get sympathy. "I'm sorry I suck." That's not a real apology. 12. Everybody just forgives her for no reason, she didn't even apologize to Veronica or Jamie, she gets her friends back, she gets the guy, and everybody lives happily ever after. Also, there was NO plan. There was no way for this to work out or for her to think it would work out except for her getting caught/having to come clean. Like she convinces this girl to webcam him, then go on a date with him (not to mention that at this point he thinks she's deaf...😑), so what was her plan? Why did she get that girl to go on a date with him, how was that supposed to help her get together with him? I guess when a lot of people catfish, they don't have a plan and they have to make it up as they go along, but there was no motivation for her to do that. There was no reasoning behind it. How was she expecting that to work out? I just don't get it. And she's an awful person who does awful things that she excuses with this perceived victimhood, she doesn't grow at all, doesn't say sorry, doesn't seem like she IS sorry for what she did, doesn't take any accountability, and gets forgiven and gets everything she wants. Hooray... But the soundtrack WAS good, that's about it.
I can’t believe this comment doesn’t have at least 1k like just coz people aren’t bothered to read it. I mean can we just take a moment to think about how long it took for u to write this. Btw so many good points there I agree
I mean I get Veronica’s reaction when the “dumped over DM” picture gets exposed because it’s something she confided in Sierra which shows the bond they have, and Sierra breaks her trust. But the rest of the school’s reaction is just utter bs
@@ASadPigeon Yeah, actually there WOULD be less controversy, because there was this one movie called Revenge Of The Nerds where the main guy character pretends to be a girls boyfriend to have intercourse with her!
The higher the risk, the stronger the bond. Literally this person is the only one to know this dark secret and vice versa, you can't escape them anymore, you're bound to the friendship taking the secret to the grave.
YO this movie is honest to God SOOO CREEPY! if sierra was a dude this movie would be marketed as a psychological horror movie since they end up together
Nah the directors clearly dont give a shit about toxic relationships. Think about the kissing booth. Its still on the context of manipulating ppl and he anyways ends up with the girl. Seriously teen movies have grown to be some toxic ass shit
actually the plot is taken from a classical piece of french literature called 'cyrano de bergerac' which basically does the same thing. Most movies also keep the original names of cyrano, chris, and roxanne pretty similar. once you know the trope you cant unsee it lol. in the original though, both chris and cyrano die.... so... take that how you will. cyrano was male in the original and a lot of other depictions of this story keep cyrano and chris as men
A big reason she is perceived ugly in this movie is because how god awful they dressed her. Like Jesus Christ, she either dresses like a grandma or a toddler.
I hate how adults who write high school girls make them super shallow, vapid, and petty. Like no actual high school population would dump on the girl who got hacked and someone tried to expose her in front of everyone. She’d be pitied, but Sierra would go down as “that one crazy bitch” in that high schools history.
8:45 COMPLETELY relate. The first convo I had with my boyfriend after we first started dating was me asking if he thought goldfish had teeth. I then excused myself to go to the bathroom and proceeded to scream. A woman literally pounded on my stall door and asked me if I was in trouble. 2 years later and this man is still with me :')) What a saint.
@@kq3zh highscool is rough for some, this kind of thing would happen in mine and no one would doubt it, everyone just went along, sort of a mob mentality kinda thing. Disgusting obviously and I'm glad I left that environment already
In high school a friend dumped his gf through a poem. He received shit from everyone including us (his friend group) for the next 3 years and I don’t think he dated anyone else the entire time he was in high school. I don’t disagree that people will be biased in favor of the guy but there is still a point where people know who the victim is. A girl getting dumped over dms doesn’t reflect on her at all. If everyone got mad at her for leading on the quarter back while being involved with her ex I could see it but not hating for her just cause she got dumped in a douchey way
@@chloex3120 so true. I was about to start typing a paragraph saying that only Netflix Movies are bad not their series and then I saw your complete comment
I never get embarrassed with my life, but I get severe secondhand embarrassment from shows and movies and have to pause them then come back to them. This movie gave me the worst embarassment. It took me 4 hrs to finish it lmao.
Veronica is a great actress. She played Alaska in the show based on the book "Looking for Alaska" and after her performance in that, I noticed how talented she actually was at acting xD.
Possibly dead. That way Dylan would also get that murder he wanted to happen so badly. Maybe Veronica and Jamie made a deal to act like Sierra's friend and boyfriend because they want to murder her out of revenge. I'd actually love for this to be a sequel, 10/10 would watch, especially if Jamie and Veronica got together by the end of it.
The frustrating thing is that the actress that plays Sierra isn't ugly, she's actually very pretty. She's just plus sized. The only plus sized character is both the "ugly", "not pretty girl" who also has a victim complex. What a terrible message to send to preteens who like this garbage
I hated this movie, especially Sierra, she’s a terrible person! I might have liked it better if the ending had been different but Sierra did not deserve to end up with Jamie... she catfished him! I don’t understand how this is supposed to be romantic, and I especially don’t understand why Jamie likes her... it’s ridiculous. I did like Veronica’s character arc, and Sierra’s best friend but that’s about all I liked. Felt really sorry for Jamie throughout the movie... that ending tho... it’s just infuriating.
Angie Lara Ok but would you like a story about a murderer that gets caught in the end The whole time she’s lying to her boyfriend (she killed his sister and she keeps comforting him that they’ll find the killer and get justice) and going around, cheating on him with people who don’t even know she’s in a relationship and who are vulnerable And in the end, the boyfriend finds out about everything, dumps her (ofc), she gets sent to jail, she starts complaining how life is unfair and that she should be forgiven but literally everyone hates her now and won’t have it She’s the main character btw Cause I dunno like should the main character be changed? Do books where the main character is hatable do very well?
Nature Kit I know you weren’t talking to me, but I feel like quite a few people would like your story, especially if it’s not revealed until the end that your mc is the killer! People love mysteries, and, unlike Sierra, your character doesn’t get a happy ending that they don’t deserve.
Sally Vee you don’t have to gender flip it for people to see that. Almost every comment and review already is saying that it’s horrible. Also Sierra was fat but not ugly.
People need to understand that just bcoz your life isn't great or bcoz u faced trauma that doesn't give you the right to do mean and bad and illegal things.
I agree wholeheartedly, but I include Veronica because her having a bad home life is just lazy writing especially with how blatantly mean she is to a lot of people. With the home life she has she'd be undercutting people not full on attacking.
Sierra isn’t even ugly, she’s just fat. Then all the other female characters are wearing their pretty makeup and clothes. If she really hated the way she looked so much, she could have easily done something. This movie is all about body shaming, catfishing, and unrealistic depictions of how douchebagy everyone is in high school.
I’m 13 and I used to think this was cute. I’m so glad I now know how to identify red flags when I see them now. Especially with the copious amounts they put in these Netflix teenage romcoms.
That’s awesome! I get worried for kids and teens who watch this kinda garbage and don’t understand that what she does is not okay. It makes people think that if you act like her, you can get what you want. Or if someone treats you poorly, you should just forgive them and date them anyways.
I was fat and ugly in high school AND I was in orchestra. I dated two guys that were physically waaaayyy more attractive than me. The difference is I had a personality and I went to therapy that also addressed my low self esteem. If she tells her parents that she hates the way she looks and that it's impeding her happiness they should send her to therapy. That's a big deal. This is really damaging to girls who look like Sierra. We have fun, too.
You weren’t ugly. Sierra isn’t ugly. Stop labeling people as ugly because they don’t fit YOUR standards of beauty that came from YOUR society. Just because you were raised to believe you were ugly doesn’t mean that it was the unbiased truth. If you were truly happier and healthier, you wouldn’t look at your high school self as a “fat and ugly girl”.
Chunni right! I hate when ppl do that. We all know what “ugly” looks like in high school and the girl was not looking for validation in her comment so I don’t know why she responded the way she did lmao
“Dude is lifting weights in his bed room,and your telling me he can’t do a couple hurdles without throwing up” Me: “I mean,maybe he threw up because Sierra did.”
Hearing the sound of throw up without actually seeing it makes me feel a little sick. I definitely would have thrown up too if I saw someone else throw up. Would not have mattered how much exercise I had done before. Throw up is just nasty.
I think her friend was pretending to be bad at sport to make her feel better, I think it's shown when he's lifting weights in his room, he was being a good friend taking some of the attention off the "fat girl who's shit at sport because she's fat".
What bothers me most is that they push the narrative that Sierra is ugly. She. Is. Not. She weighs a little more but that is NOT an equivalent to being ugly, what the f?
As a person who was bullied in middle and high school, when Sierra did her whole "it's easy for you when you don't look blah blah blah" I was like "FUCK YOU." She's like the female equivalent of a 'nice guy'.
“They didn’t show the first conversation between Sierra and Jamie” Dude no, you don’t understand. What we saw WAS the conversation. The WHOLE conversation. If you look at her phone afterwards nothing more was said. Makes this shit show even worse.
She was being so evil throughout the movie and she never genuinely accepted that. At the end she always defended herself to get pity so people forgave her for the way she acted. Ew. She was the villain and Veronica was the hero. She changed into a better person.
Veronica was no hero. She helped Sierra catfish and she was a bully at the beginning. She even stayed friends with those horrible girls. She's just as bad.
Tbh Sierra is crazy , she deserves a restraining order imo . The most realistic ending would have been Veronica and Jamie getting together and Sierra getting in to her dream uni. How are they trying to romanticize catfishing , simply because she's not your typical pretty and popular girl ?I was really looking forward to this movie but I am very disappointed.
Victoria Smith everyone is missing the point cat fishing guide fishing cat fishing that’s not the point !!! Love is the point and how u should Focus on peoples minds not looks also the point It’s obviously wrong thing to do to catfish but I think it’s like showing how someone could be prettier than the looks back to the point ... ppl love to say they hate omg hahahaha
hala milad I get what you mean but what you're saying is exactly the point. They tried to make love the main purpose and moral. That people will love you for you not your looks. But it just backfired and turned into a catfishing encouraging movie. They didn't handle it well enough
How would she get a restraining order? She wasn't constantly harassing him wtf she was just texting him is all she just was scared to be honest with him.Wow
Lets just all agree this movie is a bust and that the film industry should be focusing on what's going on in our country! People going insane from social media shooting up schools, or how we are totally being lied to by our government and have to start another revolution to recreate our social system, hierarchy and capital the whole system flushed to begin again.
Honestly people underestimate how normal catfishing has become. It freaked me tf out the first time i found out this girl was catfishing as a guy online, cuz i was genuinely attracted to him/her. But then people were like "its okay i understand" and that freaked me out soooo much more. But ive seen it happen multiple times now, that honestly this isn't far from reality. Which is insane. But to go along with the insanity for a moment, we all remember that time, or at least many of us who arent pretty, when we would consider finding a different pic to send to someone online, espeically if theyre a stranger. I remember when i was younger i literally collected pictures of girls who looked similar, it was crazy and i cant understand why i did it. Well i can, because im not pretty. And you know when u talk to people online what u picture and whats actually there can be so different, to the point that most of the time exposing your face means getting ghosted. But no longer in the realm of insanity, yeah she went way too far and shes not a child who thinks of dumb shit like that.
That movie exist, actually several of those movies exist. The 80's seemed to produce those constantly, the guy is usually a skinny nerd though, for example Revenge of the nerds and Sixteen candles. And then there is of course The big band theory
I love how you had to point out the fact that the character is fat. If it was a skinny character, you would’ve never in a million years mentioned it. Just goes to show how fat people are still seen as anomalies in our society even though more than 60% of american men and women are overweight.
The only plot point I liked in this movie was the fact the “mean girl” became best friends with the protagonist instead of being a one dimensional bully that ended up getting some comeuppance by the end. It happened pretty early on too, they eliminated that popular girl bully element right out the gate. I really liked it when she was dumped and all emotional, she went straight to Sierra in the hall and hugged her
I honestly didn’t like how the whole plot was based on catfishing. I think the plot would be 1000x better if Jamey texted Sierra, but it was just a wrong number (but not a girls number, just like a friends number or something) and Sierra says “oh wrong number” but they continue talking. That way they can develop a relationship not based on lies and the plot can still be based on Sierra can be scared to reveal herself because of what she looks like. Sierra could have tutored Veronica and Veronica could help her with tips on how to talk to Jamey, and learn how to be more confident with herself and her image. Because honestly the lack of self-confidence thing could have been better, but it came across as fake. Sierra did an awful thing and you end up not even rooting for her. And they could even have them meet before the reveal too and have Jamey fall for the real her before he knows she’s the one on the phone and have him tied between these two girls, not knowing they’re the same one. When he finds out it’s her he could be mad because she wasn’t upfront with him and it caused him stress because he thought he had to choose between two girls or whatever.
the title of the movie gives it away. Sierra Burgess resembles the name of the original story Cyrano de Bergerac. This story is about 400 years old. And since then there are different variations of this story.
Anbessa Lea it’s nothing like Cyrano though. Cyrano never gets the girl in the end and he stays a good person through the whole story. The woman he loves is in love with a beautiful man and he actually helps that man (who also loves her) woo her. In the end she falls for his words but Cyr can’t reveal they were his, because the man dies before and he refuses to tarnish his memory. He’s punished for letting his insecurities get the best of him. Sierra is awful and still gets everything she wanted, it goes against every message of the original story
One thing I hate about Sierra is that she tries to play the victim the whole time even when she gets called out she goes home and yell at her parents about how ugly she is like GURL Also kinda disappointed Dylan didn't know who Loretta Devine was (southern accent lady)
ImTiredHoe it’s funny because i’m pretty sure she’s also the grandmother in everybody hates chris which he had literally just brought up so i was expecting him to point it out
I read a comic, where this scene 17:39 happened to the mc and the Mc had trauma and trust issues for YEARS. And he couldn't even kiss someone without feeling overwhelming dread and nausea. It was so sad damn
SIERRA IS SOOOOO UNLIKABLE WTF. SHE STALKED AND CATFISHED AND DID STUFF THAT IS NOT OK AND PPL ACTUALLY LIKED HER bcs shes smart WTF. worst main character ever.
@@queenelizabethi5868 Hi, this comments is 3 months old and I've seen more people hating her than people liking her. In fact I've seen no one who likes her. Maybe you should stop?
I’m so relieved i am not alone in thinking this movie isn’t necessarily «good » I got mad when she got her happy end. It wasn’t deserved at all! She catfished an innocent guy but hey we’re okay with it because she doesn’t have it easy in school? Alright then 😂
She had it perfectly fine in school she had a best friend and she didn’t even really let people get to her when they made fun of her she had it like any normal person it’s honestly disgusting what she did no sympathy at all #teamveronica ❤️
carelle.edits I knew a lot of chubby girls like her in school and they were getting good looking dudes but whatever. Hollywood thinks high school kids are dense and shallow still.We don’t live in the fucking 60s anymore lol.
@@halam7661 Verpnica had character development and was an entertaining arc to watch. Her being attractive wasn't entirely anyone's motive in prefering her to Sierra. Sierra is gorgeous imo but her actions were ugly and she got no development or retributions for them.
Here I’ll turn on the reality switch for you guys Ending: Siera gets charged with sexual assault and Jamie gets a restraining order. Veronica apologizes to Jamie and they become good friends. Siera loses all of her friend and doesn’t get accepted into college because of what happened. Everyone els goes to college and pursues their careers while Siera lives with her parents, working in an office job. The end :)
THANK YOU. better ending. more realistic. fat girls ARE NOT = ugly girls. she is ugly because the way she treat her friends that actually care about her badly.
I really don't get Sierra's struggle. At the beginning it seemed like she didn't care about her looks but at the end she's crying that it's hard to "LIVE LOOKING LIKE THIS!!!" Overall her grades are great, she has a friend, she just is desperate for a guys attention
The thing that bothered me most about this movie (besides the catfishing, assault, deaf-faking, and everything phobic jokes) is that at the beginning when Jamey texts her and she's like "Who is this?" and he sends her the picture of his face she doesn't immediately respond with something along the lines of "Sorry, I still don't know who you are." For whatever reason, she just starts talking to him like she knows why he's texting her and she doesn't find out for way too long that he thinks he's texting Veronica. Any normal person would have pretty quickly been like "Who exactly do you think you're texting?" unless they were going for a prank...
The thing is as well is that she's not even ugly tbh, she's just overweight, and that was her entire "redemption" plot. Like girl, I'm fat, but I don't go around using it as an excuse to catfish and humiliate my friends and pretend I'm deaf and stuff.
Funny that attractive characters who like people based off of their physical appearance are viewed as shallow, but unattractive characters do it all the time and no one bats an eye
This movie made me kinda mad like I get that she's not the 'pretty girl' in school or whatever and people treated her bad because of it, but what she did was so wrong so why is she portrayed as some kind of hero at the end?! And Jamey's just gonna forgive and forget that she played him and scammed him so hard?? Then still think she's a good person and date her at the end?? It's so unrealistic and it kinda portrays this kinda next level catfishing in a good light, when it's completely wrong and realistically, the guy would probably never talk to the girl again. urgH I so wanted to like this movie, but it's sO frustrating (ps. Jamey deserved so much better smh) edit: I missed this out of my op but let's not forget she kissed him without consent and went to such far lengths to deceive him. Then proceeded to try and humiliate Veronica, who was trying to help her, because she did something that wasn't her fault. It's effectively Sierra's fault for creating a situation in which Jamey kissing Veronica was bound to happen? I get the message that they're trying to put across with this movie but they could have gone about it in a much better way. Catfishing and deceiving (especially to this extent) and doing things without consent shouldn't be portrayed as things that's going to 'get you the guy' and like after the kiss scene, Sierra was shown so happy with herself, but it's so wrong. urgH idk I think they're unintentionally sending the wrong message.
Rosie right. Like she posted private stuff about Veronica. Hard core catfishes him to the point of getting Veronica to go on a date with him. Then she just makes a song and it fixes everything. How does that make any sense?
Rosie as someone who has been cat-fished before and by a friend this movie irked me. I tried to see the better of it but really the only good thing that came out of this movie was her best friend and Veronica other then that it’s all trash 🤦🏽♀️
Rosie FINALLY. i agree 100%. what kind of message is this giving teenagers? if you have low self esteem its is totally acceptable to manipulate someone online? No one deserves to be bullied but using that as a defence is just not right to me. I commented before the movie came out and i just got hate from people so i'm really glad i'm not the only one who shares this view!
This movie is so bad. No chemistry between the two leads and at one point I thought the two girls would end up together because they had all the chemistry.
You know what would’ve made a good story? If they’d actually stuck to the Cyrano de Bergerac themes. It could’ve gone like this: Veronica has a crush on Jamey. Unfortunately, he’s not only handsome, but very smart and she doesn’t think she could impress him. So she asks Sierra to help her woo him. Sierra agrees and helps her study and write messages to him. Throughout that time, she also sees Jamey around and they bond as friends and he tells her about how he really likes this girl he’s been texting. Even though she’s been writing these texts, she won’t betray her friend and she thinks 2 beautiful people belong together. When Veronica and Jamey start dating, they get along, but he comments on how much easier it is to talk to her on the phone. Veronica realizes he actually likes Sierra and encourages her to confess to him, but Sierra still feels like she’s too much of a loser to date him. Time passes and around graduation, Sierra is valedictorian and her speech makes Jamey realize she’s the one he actually likes. He meets her after and tells her he loves her but they’re graduating and going to different colleges. Sierra let her insecurities keep her from this relationship. Or it could be a song at a talent show right before homecoming or something, so they can actually have a relationship, but, keep in mind that in the original story, Cyrano lets years go by and only only hints the truth to Roxanne right before his death
The actress is actually singing the song she wrote. She sings a few lines in the musical episodes of Riverdale and is one of the strongest singers on the show.
This plot is so toxic for teenage girls.
Yeah this ending only happens in movies smh
@@panagiota7321 Right? Real ending: Restraining order.
God YEAH.
Cat fishing is not that big of a deal actually if you really connect :)
You’re inherently ugly if you’re not skinny, are in band, or are smart (???)
Sexual assault is okay if it’s with a guy!
Being a bully is excusable if they have a kind of hard home life :(
In real life she literally would have gone to jail.
Honestlyyy.
The film is messed up... you’re right that’s certainly sexual assault.
Tegan Riley
I know! Her character is literally disgusting. Oh, I catfished someone, kissed someone without their consent, sexually assaulted someone, made fun of my friend in front of the entire school, completely dissed the only person who’s ever hung out with me, faked a disability, but because I’m “ugly”, “fat” and a “loser” I can get away with everything because I wrote a song about flowers. She didn’t even APOLOGIZE to VERONICA OR JAMIE. The one person she DID apologize to was the person she hurt the least. Then, her apology was “I’m sorry I suck so much.” Again, she’s trying to make people pity her. She’s actually not unattractive, she’s not that fat, but she’s a loser because of her personality.
Imagine how people would react if this was two guys doing it to a girl. But because a girl did it, people rave about this movie
@@TheGoosebumpsGirl righttttt
@@TheGoosebumpsGirl you stole the words out of my mouth! 🙌
MiaPlaysHalo wdym? people hate this movie and think it’s creepy. don’t make this into a boy vs girl thing
“To be a teenage girl, and look like this...”
As an ugly teenage girl. It’s really not a big deal. Chill girl
Meg C forreall 😂
The Dark Overlord I struggle with my weight constantly. I starved myself for months in the past without telling anyone my insecurities. I never felt pretty or skinny or anything. My comment wasn’t trying to shame anyone who struggled with their appearance, which I now see that it may come across that way. It was saying how no matter how insecure you are about how you look, it is not an excuse to be a jerk to people.
@The Dark Overlord well it’s not like that anymore😂 everyone’s is attracted to girls with big thighs and everything else now
I mean..idk what you look like but regardless if you weren’t conventionally attractive, the way you talk or think ab yourself reflex on you and you should definitely think more highly of yourself :)
@@Meg-bw3yx I hope I don't sound insensitive, but exercising regularly is underrated. I had a terrible diet (Ate whole large pizzas by myself), and was involved in school sports, and I stayed - my specific - healthy weight range. Now, with quarentine, I don't get as much exercise, but I still do, and I eat healthy, but I gained 20 pounds. ╮( . ❛ ~❛.)╭
imagine if sierra was a guy. this would literally be a creepy thriller movie, not marketed as a high school love story. she literally sexually assaulted jamie and posted very private things about veronica and was forgiven because she’s not “thin” and she wrote a song.
Fr this movie's trying to make it seem like she's making relatable teen mistakes when she's just committing actual crimes
in a lot of romance movies the guy is a creep. the most well-known romance movie, the notebook, ryan gosling's character is constantly manipulating her. men and women in romance movies are always up to some shit
@@syd7608this. It’s kinda in the name of the genre too lol, but romance movies and romcoms often romanticize obsessive or manipulative behavior and advertise it as “real” love, when usually it’s infatuation or lust
@@syd7608 Um, not all of them.
@@WastePlace Or people sometimes overthink and don't realize that it's fictional. 🤷♀️
I would've liked the movie if it was from veronica's perspective she was the only one that had any kind of character growth
This. I actually would've liked it if the movie was focused on her. She had way more depth and interesting conflicts going on in her life. Like, she has an overbearing mother who clearly is projecting her old high school glory days onto her, she has to maintain a popular girl persona at school, she gets into relationships with shitty guys as a result of her crappy circumstances, etc. But she becomes a better person at the end.
Veronica's movie would've been about a teenage girl who is forced to do and put up with crappy things she doesn't want, but learns to develop a backbone, embrace herself for whom she is, and stand up to her shitty mom and boyfriend. That's a way better coming-of-age story than a manipulative walking sack of greasy shit that is Sierra Burgess.
She was by far my favorite character
She's the only character i liked 😂
Turned your likes from 3.9K to 4K 😂😂
if serriera let veronica be with Jamie that would have been great growth and the movie wouldn’t have been as completely terrible
this movie was HOT garbage. "Catfishing is okay, you'll get the boy in the end"
"let's make a huge service to our overweight audience by making movie where a fat girl *manages* to get a boyfriend but only because she catfishes him. not that she's a jerk of course, it started by 'accident', what was she supposed to do?"
Not to mention all the pretend deaf nonsense
And she sexually assaulted the guy!
@@Stonytude That was so cringe
it was literal sexual assault
How do Veronica and her friends think Jamie is a loser? He's the quarterback of the football team...
Amanda Courtney cz the guys he was hanging out looked like losers
She didn't know he was a quarterback, they went to different schools...
Maybe their football team sucks and he's not a good QB
@@ardengarrentoza3565 but he comes off as a dumb jock like it’s perfect 😏
They think that if you hang out with losers, then you're a loser. So Jamie was hanging out with "losers" making him a losers in their eyes.
I feel bad for the actress she literally got casted for being “ugly”
I always think about that in these movies like if that were me I'd be deeply offended
@@hopes9467 exactly, imagine only being picked because you fit the perfect description of how a human should not look? its gross.
But like she's not even ugly thoo😭 bruh f these beauty standards
the casting call for these describe what appearance they’re looking for and and it’s the actors choice if they want to audition or not. they also do her makeup and dress her in a way that makes her a plain jane.
I mean she auditioned for it tho so I’m pretty sure she knew what she was getting into😭
The storyline? 0/10
The soundtrack? 11/10
Evie Brennan lol movie was trash though
Am I right?
Too bad they used the soundtrack for this movie
Lol twilight in a nutshell
R U.1
I’d watch all 5 movies of Twilight over this shit any day.
B-but Sierra kissed him without consent though. How in the world is that romantic in any way possible?
It isn’t
It isn't, in any way.
right?! if it was a boy that did this it would be totally different
Not saying it’s right but If this came out 20 years ago no one would’ve said anything. It’s a movie🙄
23louuu but it’s not ‘20 years ago’ is it? no one would have said anything because that’s how society was like 20 or so years ago, they saw that shitty behaviour as ‘romantic’. Society is different today so we see things differently today
i love how dylan always finds a 30-year old man who doesn't belong in the movie
I love your profile pic ;))
@@hwlsgrl lmao thank u I love stefan
@@sky-pd4xc same 😫❤️
@@hwlsgrl he is SO much better than damon and he's always compared to him :(
@@sky-pd4xc He is the better man. I just find Damon hotter bec I’m attracted to toxic men. Oh well.💀😌
Pro tip: when you’re apologizing, don’t make it about you.
“Sorry I suck so bad” isn’t a decent apology. That’s just guilt tripping by being down on yourself, making it about you and not what you did. If the self deprecation bit is genuine because you feel like you’re a sucky person for doing bad things, and you need that to be a part of the apology to express the shame you feel - mention it after taking responsibility and apologizing for the things you actually did wrong. Own up to the consequences of your actions, don’t victimize yourself.
“Sorry I was a bad friend, and did those things. I suck” is worlds better, and even that’s half-assed and only just passable.
Reminds me of Influencers and their apologies videos
@@jennifergarcia2710* aggressive exhaleing*
@@jennifergarcia2710 apology videos be like
*audible sigh*
I didn't want to make this video, but I have to address some things or else I'll lose clout. Recently some allegations have come out about me that're totally true, but I'm either going to deny them or say they're true, but offer a million excuses and reasons. I was in a bad place and I'm sorry that you got offended.
@@robotoorigato7288 lmao it really do be like that
yessss. that was such an important thing i have learned in my life, not all apologies are the same and equal.
Sierra: I’m a stakler, catfisher and a liar.
Dude: You’re EXACTLY my type.
Don't forget also a very manipulative person
@@maruguida8056 also has the biggest victim complex and literally sexually assaulted him...BUT HEY, your just my type😀
But that YOU ARE JUST MY TYPE is such a backhanded compliment ...
THIS. and the movie totally ignored how she pretended to be mute
Don’t forget a sexual assaulter!
if veronica got the guy in the end instead, maybe this movie wouldn’t be burning garbage
Yes. This. If Veronica started dating Jamie, it would make so much more sense, and it’d be so much more realistic. Like, Sierra should’ve gotten a restraining order, or at least been sued for sexual assault, AT LEAST.
this entire movie was garbage from the moment someone said "I have an idea"
Veronica doesnt even like the guy at the first place so why you think they are good together
@@jahidlm7910 Im pretty sure she did like when she was describing how he was cute, nice, and funny
@@jahidlm7910 Veronica did not like him at the beginning but once her character started to develop and she stopped caring about popularity it's implied that she could've liked him had it not been because she did not want to hurt Sierra. At one point in the movie Veronica says Sierra is lucky to have found a smart and nice guy, after she says this Sierra gets kinda jealous and asks Veronica if she likes Jaime. All of this on top of the fact that during her date with Jaime Veronica seemed to be touched by how nice and chivalrous he was because at the time the guy she was interested in was a douche. They had good chemistry and I absolutely agree on the fact that if Jaime had to end up with one of them Veronica would have been a much better choice however I'm not sure of how good their relationship could have been because they did not seem to have much in common.
Sierra is not even ugly. She’s pretty in a normal, girl-next-door way. The whole drama of her being “ugly” because she’s just a little overweight is ridiculous and not buyable at all.
She's below average. She would look better if she took care
Re of herself.
@@fightingmedialounge519What else does she need to take care of besides, like OP said, arguably weight? I think she's not really ugly, just not highly (read: unrepresentative of normal population) attractive like the other actors and styled unflatteringly
@@katatat2030 her hair, clothes, even simple things like rembering to wipe the toothpaste off her face. When I say she's ugly, I'm not talking about physical deformities, but rather just how generally not taking care of herself.
@@fightingmedialounge519 you do realise that wardrobe, makeup, and the director made the decision to make hee look that way for the role, right?
@@TheMimiandbb please tell me your joking. Obviously the actor has to look that way for the the role. We're talking about how the character looks within the movie.
Dylan's idea of killing Veronica so Sierra can use her dead body to trick Noah makes a more interesting plotline than what this movies actually plot is...
YES and the twist from a highschool love story to a horror film would be so good
@@MackenzieVella vote to correct the script to this plot line! Lol 😂
I agree that the ending should’ve been her single and made up with her friends. I just feel like they glossed over the problem of catfishing and kissing him without consent. It’s just too much.
Yeah. That shit was creepy. I was uncomfortable all through this movie.
Thank god it’s not only men who feel this way. It’s somewhat sexist even. Like guys are just manipulatable idiots, and it’s okay to stalk and lie to them. Even though this dude seems like a good dude.
Nashaly Melendez In reality ... THAT DUDE would not have ended up with her PERIOD !
Nashaly Melendez pp
Monk Killedababy p
actually, as a teenage girl, it’s very common to take pics in a school bathroom no matter what the lighting is like lol
Truee haha honestly i don't know why we do that lol
Yeah girls do it often. I never understood it even as a female myself. Kind of an odd place but alright lol
megan people in my school took pics in the stairwell and hallways 😂
It’s true although it’s stupid, like bathrooms are kinda a gross place to do that.
megan My classmates do it all the time at school
I was talking to a friend who wasn't understanding why I thought this movie was disgusting. She thought it was cute... I just said "Ok- switch the genders."
"Oh".
Yeah. Nothing about this movie is ok... I was actively rooting against SB the entire time.
It's kinda frustrating how the obvious is not seen unless those magic words are uttered we overlook this aspect so much and let it pass unchecked most of the time because she's a 'girl' and 'how mich damage can a girl do' because evidently a lot of damage and wreckage can come from one seemingly innocuous girl it's not okay!
Yea, Imagine a chunky guy with his quarterback best friend catfishing a veronica. That awful kiss scene but it's a reddit moderator kissing, ew no thanks.
I dont understand how people can think this movie is "romantic" this is NOT a romance at all wtf....and peoplz that think the inverse must be young, and thats even scarier
The ONE thing that just made me so angry was how entitled Sierra was. I can’t shake that the girl who has been so mistreated/misunderstood has such a superiority complex.
It happens. Basically pick me girls incarnate lol. It's a way of coping with feeling out of place, feeling like shit from bullying or whatnot, by convincing/lying to yourself that you're only the odd one out because people don't understand how special and amazing you actually are or whatever, instead of being the pariah because you're ugly and/or have a shitty personality. Ignorance is bliss after all... lol
This movie romanticized and stereotype a lot of serious issues. It's a mystery why is it so famous.
It's infamous actually, did you know someone that really likes this thing? 😕
Eugenia Verónica Bonsembiante lmao that's what i was going to say!
i think it mostly got famous before it came out because it was a Netflix original, and they advertised the hell out of it, plus it had Noah centineo in it-- but once it actually came out, pretty much everyone realized it was some shit.
Bc of Noah.
dontdrink tapwater I think it’s because there aren’t a lot of protagonist that are more than a size two, even if the protagonist is a garbage person. Something that bothers me though is that, yeah she’s over weight, but she’s still really pretty and could easily get a boyfriend in real life. If they’re going to call someone ugly that person better actually be ugly.
Because its bad
1. Catfished him by talking to him without correcting him about who she is
2. Got the girl he thinks she is to fake webcam with him
3. PRETENDED TO BE DEAF and faked sign language
4. Convinced the other girl to go on a date with him, then followed them everywhere and listened in so she could feel like she was on the date too?
5. SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HIM by switching with the other girl and kissing him while his eyes were closed
6. Ignores/bails on her one real friend
7. Gets pissed off when the other girl kisses the guy, even though SHE SET IT UP FOR THEM TO BE FAKE-REAL DATING
8. Decides to get revenge on this other girl she's supposedly been friends with by being nasty and publicly humiliating her, doing so by interrupting the football game and ruining it for not only the guy she likes but also everyone else there in general
9. Loses everyone because of her own actions, so she sobs about how she's the victim here because HER life is so hard because she's not thin. I get that societal beauty standards send the message that like you're ugly/unworthy if you don't look a certain way, I do, but nothing that happened happened because of the way she looks. Everything that happened was because of her actions and the horrible things she did and the way she treated people. You can't do a bunch of awful things and then bring that up as an excuse and try to claim you're the real victim here because of how you look. So she...
10. Learned NOTHING about treating other people like objects for her own selfish benefit, lying, manipulating people, taking responsibility for her own actions
11. Is STILL manipulative as shit when she makes up with her best friend by doing this shitty, fake apology designed to get sympathy. "I'm sorry I suck." That's not a real apology.
12. Everybody just forgives her for no reason, she didn't even apologize to Veronica or Jamie, she gets her friends back, she gets the guy, and everybody lives happily ever after.
Also, there was NO plan. There was no way for this to work out or for her to think it would work out except for her getting caught/having to come clean. Like she convinces this girl to webcam him, then go on a date with him (not to mention that at this point he thinks she's deaf...😑), so what was her plan? Why did she get that girl to go on a date with him, how was that supposed to help her get together with him? I guess when a lot of people catfish, they don't have a plan and they have to make it up as they go along, but there was no motivation for her to do that. There was no reasoning behind it. How was she expecting that to work out? I just don't get it. And she's an awful person who does awful things that she excuses with this perceived victimhood, she doesn't grow at all, doesn't say sorry, doesn't seem like she IS sorry for what she did, doesn't take any accountability, and gets forgiven and gets everything she wants. Hooray... But the soundtrack WAS good, that's about it.
Rachel K this comment is underrated
I can’t believe this comment doesn’t have at least 1k like just coz people aren’t bothered to read it. I mean can we just take a moment to think about how long it took for u to write this. Btw so many good points there I agree
Rachel K 120% agree
More thought went into this comment than the entire plot of the movie
Is there a way to save this comment 🤣??
I mean I get Veronica’s reaction when the “dumped over DM” picture gets exposed because it’s something she confided in Sierra which shows the bond they have, and Sierra breaks her trust. But the rest of the school’s reaction is just utter bs
I've never hated a protagonist so much. 🤦♀️
She's so insufferable
Did anyone else feel really bad for Veronica at the end?
she deserved a happier ending than just getting a break from social media lmao
Yeah I definitly did
Idk I didn't she was a horrible person in the beginning :/ and complicit asf
Neither girls deserves a happy ending
Sophia Llama felt bad for Veronica. Not Sierra though. Catfishes don’t get sympathy
Imagine If the genders were switched
It still would bit be okay.
Oof
there’s still controversy over this movie
Tahsin Hossain1210 There would be less controversy..
@@ASadPigeon Yeah, actually there WOULD be less controversy, because there was this one movie called Revenge Of The Nerds where the main guy character pretends to be a girls boyfriend to have intercourse with her!
i love how dylan's getting more mad at the football inaccuracies than how shitty the movie is lmao 💀
What are you talking about? Doing illegal activities together is always the best way to bond
Shadshank Redemption in a nutshell... I think?
@@crowthewicked8344 you’re close 😂
Heathers's entering the chat lol
The higher the risk, the stronger the bond. Literally this person is the only one to know this dark secret and vice versa, you can't escape them anymore, you're bound to the friendship taking the secret to the grave.
YO this movie is honest to God SOOO CREEPY! if sierra was a dude this movie would be marketed as a psychological horror movie since they end up together
yeah I read a comment like that on another vid it was pretty creepy
Ikr
Nah the directors clearly dont give a shit about toxic relationships. Think about the kissing booth. Its still on the context of manipulating ppl and he anyways ends up with the girl. Seriously teen movies have grown to be some toxic ass shit
Agreed when watchimg it felt so wrong 🤢
actually the plot is taken from a classical piece of french literature called 'cyrano de bergerac' which basically does the same thing. Most movies also keep the original names of cyrano, chris, and roxanne pretty similar. once you know the trope you cant unsee it lol. in the original though, both chris and cyrano die.... so... take that how you will. cyrano was male in the original and a lot of other depictions of this story keep cyrano and chris as men
She isn’t even ugly she has no excuses.
She has an ugly and horrible personally 🙃
Ugly in the inside and kinda in the outside, but nothing that u cant fix
Here to make u mad don’t forget that’s an actual person🙂
exactly people only consider her ugly because she's plus size. She's genuinely a really pretty girl she just has an awful personality
A big reason she is perceived ugly in this movie is because how god awful they dressed her. Like Jesus Christ, she either dresses like a grandma or a toddler.
how are they gonna make a bomb ass looking movie and a bomb ass soundtrack and completely BOMB the actual plot???
I hate how adults who write high school girls make them super shallow, vapid, and petty. Like no actual high school population would dump on the girl who got hacked and someone tried to expose her in front of everyone. She’d be pitied, but Sierra would go down as “that one crazy bitch” in that high schools history.
i love that 80% of Dylan’s future plot predictions are about murder
It kills me everytime!! 😂😂🤣🤣
And i 90% of the times wish they where true
@@durchwaerts me too 😂 that would make him happy 😂😂
makes more sense than the actual movies tbh
Or lesbians
"Why is she taking pictures in the bathroom?"
You've clearly never been in a high school girls bathroom
He shouldn’t be I highschool girl’s bathroom-
I'm glad he hasn't :'DDD
@Evie Brennan I mean youre not wrong but not all of them xd
@Evie Brennan honestly me too jaja
I’d hope this 28 year old MAN hasn’t 😂
8:45 COMPLETELY relate. The first convo I had with my boyfriend after we first started dating was me asking if he thought goldfish had teeth. I then excused myself to go to the bathroom and proceeded to scream. A woman literally pounded on my stall door and asked me if I was in trouble.
2 years later and this man is still with me :')) What a saint.
awww!
That's adorable, I wish y'all the best :)
good story!
3 year update: still together! That goldfish question must've really got him.
@@retheply8092love this for you
"Why would people abandon her when she's the victim of a guy being an asshole" Welcome to real life Dylan
I don't think it usually happens irl, the guy that dumped someone is the one that would look bad lol
@@kq3zh highscool is rough for some, this kind of thing would happen in mine and no one would doubt it, everyone just went along, sort of a mob mentality kinda thing. Disgusting obviously and I'm glad I left that environment already
@@danielaalbergaria1547 oh god that’s disgusting and shitty. sorry to hear that, glad you finally left, tho
@@kq3zh Not necessarily
In high school a friend dumped his gf through a poem. He received shit from everyone including us (his friend group) for the next 3 years and I don’t think he dated anyone else the entire time he was in high school. I don’t disagree that people will be biased in favor of the guy but there is still a point where people know who the victim is. A girl getting dumped over dms doesn’t reflect on her at all. If everyone got mad at her for leading on the quarter back while being involved with her ex I could see it but not hating for her just cause she got dumped in a douchey way
The soundtrack was wasted on this trash of a movie
TRUE
ikr
Ikr, one of the best Netflix soundtracks on one of the worst Netflix movies
@@estescorpse8727 all netflix movies have AMAZING songs, but every netflix movies are trash. the only good things netflix makes is tv shows.
@@chloex3120 so true. I was about to start typing a paragraph saying that only Netflix Movies are bad not their series and then I saw your complete comment
“noah kavinsky” felt that
haley same 😂
Same energy as Jacob Lautner
Rozzy V. Omg I remember that HAHAHAHA
Brooks Rattigan too
I never get embarrassed with my life, but I get severe secondhand embarrassment from shows and movies and have to pause them then come back to them. This movie gave me the worst embarassment. It took me 4 hrs to finish it lmao.
Veronica is a great actress. She played Alaska in the show based on the book "Looking for Alaska" and after her performance in that, I noticed how talented she actually was at acting xD.
There are two things Dylan wants from life in every video: a murder and/ or a lesbian love story.
Every. Video.
Can you blame him
And correct football/sport sequences!
Áine Ní Cholgáin and more spanking
yeah because mainstream TV is so boring
@@mynameisalice01 that to
sierra was quite possibly my least favorite character in this entire movie.
she should've ended up single. 🙄
Olivia Hovey not single , in prision for catfishing and sexual assault
My fav character was the best friend oop-
Or in jail
She's going to end up single anyway
Possibly dead. That way Dylan would also get that murder he wanted to happen so badly. Maybe Veronica and Jamie made a deal to act like Sierra's friend and boyfriend because they want to murder her out of revenge. I'd actually love for this to be a sequel, 10/10 would watch, especially if Jamie and Veronica got together by the end of it.
confusingly attracted to dylan when he talks about football because i'm a simp
Lol right? I hate football but I'm sat here finding the football rant endearing. 😅
Having someone talking about their passions is always endearing😭
The frustrating thing is that the actress that plays Sierra isn't ugly, she's actually very pretty. She's just plus sized. The only plus sized character is both the "ugly", "not pretty girl" who also has a victim complex. What a terrible message to send to preteens who like this garbage
Jamie: You are my type!
Me: Oh! So your type is liars who catfish, stalk and violate you! Good to know!
Guess he's into S&M shit **shrug**
He's a Sadist lol I guess
That's next level desprate
You mean maschoist.
@@fightingmedialounge519 A what?
the world:
Dylan in every single movie he sees: Is she gonna murder someone?!?!?!
Watching people react to this movie is better than watching the actual movie
"You're exactly my type" after you fell in love with her when you thought she was a skinny blonde cheerleader?? uh huh
I hated this movie, especially Sierra, she’s a terrible person! I might have liked it better if the ending had been different but Sierra did not deserve to end up with Jamie... she catfished him! I don’t understand how this is supposed to be romantic, and I especially don’t understand why Jamie likes her... it’s ridiculous. I did like Veronica’s character arc, and Sierra’s best friend but that’s about all I liked. Felt really sorry for Jamie throughout the movie... that ending tho... it’s just infuriating.
Angie Lara
Ok but would you like a story about a murderer that gets caught in the end
The whole time she’s lying to her boyfriend (she killed his sister and she keeps comforting him that they’ll find the killer and get justice) and going around, cheating on him with people who don’t even know she’s in a relationship and who are vulnerable
And in the end, the boyfriend finds out about everything, dumps her (ofc), she gets sent to jail, she starts complaining how life is unfair and that she should be forgiven but literally everyone hates her now and won’t have it
She’s the main character btw
Cause I dunno like should the main character be changed? Do books where the main character is hatable do very well?
Nature Kit I know you weren’t talking to me, but I feel like quite a few people would like your story, especially if it’s not revealed until the end that your mc is the killer! People love mysteries, and, unlike Sierra, your character doesn’t get a happy ending that they don’t deserve.
@@gloop7458 still better than this movie, at least your mc doesn't get a happy ending unlike Sierra who doesn't deserve it
@@gloop7458 Legit would rather watch that, and at the end she can just show how she has a huge victim mentality, thinking everybody is the wrong one.
Angie Lara MHM I HATED IT
The kissing scene was so creepy...
I’m pretty sure that everybody know that it meant to be cute
@@halam7661 yeah it meant to be cute but it was just creepy I would never do that to someone
it made me so uncomfortable
Yeah and so not right
Sally Vee you don’t have to gender flip it for people to see that. Almost every comment and review already is saying that it’s horrible. Also Sierra was fat but not ugly.
People need to understand that just bcoz your life isn't great or bcoz u faced trauma that doesn't give you the right to do mean and bad and illegal things.
I agree wholeheartedly, but I include Veronica because her having a bad home life is just lazy writing especially with how blatantly mean she is to a lot of people. With the home life she has she'd be undercutting people not full on attacking.
One of the few movies that does an outstanding job of actively making you hate their main character 110%.
I love how he only got really pissed with the sport inaccuracies
I know 😂😂😂
If this movie was about a fat dude catfishing a pretty girl AND that kissing scene happened ... I wonder what the reactions would've been
@Avocado Pit Well that's fatphobic.
If you see the Catfish TV show there are plenty of examples like that. It wouldn’t go well.
i feel like we definitely had those kinds of movies in the past
LOL IKR
@Avocado Pit bruh calm down...
Sierra isn’t even ugly, she’s just fat. Then all the other female characters are wearing their pretty makeup and clothes. If she really hated the way she looked so much, she could have easily done something. This movie is all about body shaming, catfishing, and unrealistic depictions of how douchebagy everyone is in high school.
I’m 13 and I used to think this was cute. I’m so glad I now know how to identify red flags when I see them now. Especially with the copious amounts they put in these Netflix teenage romcoms.
That’s awesome! I get worried for kids and teens who watch this kinda garbage and don’t understand that what she does is not okay. It makes people think that if you act like her, you can get what you want. Or if someone treats you poorly, you should just forgive them and date them anyways.
I was fat and ugly in high school AND I was in orchestra. I dated two guys that were physically waaaayyy more attractive than me. The difference is I had a personality and I went to therapy that also addressed my low self esteem. If she tells her parents that she hates the way she looks and that it's impeding her happiness they should send her to therapy. That's a big deal. This is really damaging to girls who look like Sierra. We have fun, too.
You weren’t ugly. Sierra isn’t ugly. Stop labeling people as ugly because they don’t fit YOUR standards of beauty that came from YOUR society. Just because you were raised to believe you were ugly doesn’t mean that it was the unbiased truth. If you were truly happier and healthier, you wouldn’t look at your high school self as a “fat and ugly girl”.
@@lmo6634 are you try to berate or support her lol
@@chunni4812 exactly what's going on 😂
Chunni right! I hate when ppl do that. We all know what “ugly” looks like in high school and the girl was not looking for validation in her comment so I don’t know why she responded the way she did lmao
@@chunni4812 they’ve been leaving weird fucking comments
“Dude is lifting weights in his bed room,and your telling me he can’t do a couple hurdles without throwing up”
Me: “I mean,maybe he threw up because Sierra did.”
Genesis Lopez No the way he was running and his speed rate
Hearing the sound of throw up without actually seeing it makes me feel a little sick. I definitely would have thrown up too if I saw someone else throw up. Would not have mattered how much exercise I had done before. Throw up is just nasty.
how did you guys not get the joke
@Sad Trophy Wife there is such a thing as sympathetic vomiters, you know?
I think her friend was pretending to be bad at sport to make her feel better, I think it's shown when he's lifting weights in his room, he was being a good friend taking some of the attention off the "fat girl who's shit at sport because she's fat".
What bothers me most is that they push the narrative that Sierra is ugly. She. Is. Not. She weighs a little more but that is NOT an equivalent to being ugly, what the f?
As a person who was bullied in middle and high school, when Sierra did her whole "it's easy for you when you don't look blah blah blah" I was like "FUCK YOU." She's like the female equivalent of a 'nice guy'.
THANK U
“They didn’t show the first conversation between Sierra and Jamie”
Dude no, you don’t understand. What we saw WAS the conversation. The WHOLE conversation. If you look at her phone afterwards nothing more was said.
Makes this shit show even worse.
Why are you being a fucking hater? NOT THAT FUCKING DEEP.
She was being so evil throughout the movie and she never genuinely accepted that. At the end she always defended herself to get pity so people forgave her for the way she acted. Ew. She was the villain and Veronica was the hero. She changed into a better person.
*Both* have done terrible things PERIODT.
Veronica was no hero. She helped Sierra catfish and she was a bully at the beginning. She even stayed friends with those horrible girls. She's just as bad.
At least Veronica actually had a character arch unlike the whole fucking main character. Ugh.
@@leyetelleblue6696 But she literally didn't tho???
@@tanacon5525 But only one of them changed to a better person!
I love how Dylan turns this into a Thriller every opportunity he gets.
the teacher in this film is adele from greys anatomy and her accent is just so sweet 🥺
Tbh Sierra is crazy , she deserves a restraining order imo . The most realistic ending would have been Veronica and Jamie getting together and Sierra getting in to her dream uni. How are they trying to romanticize catfishing , simply because she's not your typical pretty and popular girl ?I was really looking forward to this movie but I am very disappointed.
Victoria Smith everyone is missing the point cat fishing guide fishing cat fishing that’s not the point !!! Love is the point and how u should Focus on peoples minds not looks also the point It’s obviously wrong thing to do to catfish but I think it’s like showing how someone could be prettier than the looks back to the point ... ppl love to say they hate omg hahahaha
hala milad I get what you mean but what you're saying is exactly the point. They tried to make love the main purpose and moral. That people will love you for you not your looks. But it just backfired and turned into a catfishing encouraging movie. They didn't handle it well enough
How would she get a restraining order? She wasn't constantly harassing him wtf she was just texting him is all she just was scared to be honest with him.Wow
Lets just all agree this movie is a bust and that the film industry should be focusing on what's going on in our country! People going insane from social media shooting up schools, or how we are totally being lied to by our government and have to start another revolution to recreate our social system, hierarchy and capital the whole system flushed to begin again.
Honestly people underestimate how normal catfishing has become. It freaked me tf out the first time i found out this girl was catfishing as a guy online, cuz i was genuinely attracted to him/her. But then people were like "its okay i understand" and that freaked me out soooo much more. But ive seen it happen multiple times now, that honestly this isn't far from reality. Which is insane. But to go along with the insanity for a moment, we all remember that time, or at least many of us who arent pretty, when we would consider finding a different pic to send to someone online, espeically if theyre a stranger. I remember when i was younger i literally collected pictures of girls who looked similar, it was crazy and i cant understand why i did it. Well i can, because im not pretty. And you know when u talk to people online what u picture and whats actually there can be so different, to the point that most of the time exposing your face means getting ghosted. But no longer in the realm of insanity, yeah she went way too far and shes not a child who thinks of dumb shit like that.
I hate this movie, imagine if it was backwards, fat guy kisses the girl and tricks her and all of those things, is sick, twisted.
I feel like this kind of happens already.
Then imagine if they were handsome or beautiful instead...
Some are masochists so they will like it.
That movie exist, actually several of those movies exist. The 80's seemed to produce those constantly, the guy is usually a skinny nerd though, for example Revenge of the nerds and Sixteen candles. And then there is of course The big band theory
I love how you had to point out the fact that the character is fat. If it was a skinny character, you would’ve never in a million years mentioned it. Just goes to show how fat people are still seen as anomalies in our society even though more than 60% of american men and women are overweight.
The only plot point I liked in this movie was the fact the “mean girl” became best friends with the protagonist instead of being a one dimensional bully that ended up getting some comeuppance by the end. It happened pretty early on too, they eliminated that popular girl bully element right out the gate. I really liked it when she was dumped and all emotional, she went straight to Sierra in the hall and hugged her
I love how the movie tries to make us think she is ugly but Shannon Purser is gorgeous
I honestly didn’t like how the whole plot was based on catfishing. I think the plot would be 1000x better if Jamey texted Sierra, but it was just a wrong number (but not a girls number, just like a friends number or something) and Sierra says “oh wrong number” but they continue talking. That way they can develop a relationship not based on lies and the plot can still be based on Sierra can be scared to reveal herself because of what she looks like. Sierra could have tutored Veronica and Veronica could help her with tips on how to talk to Jamey, and learn how to be more confident with herself and her image. Because honestly the lack of self-confidence thing could have been better, but it came across as fake. Sierra did an awful thing and you end up not even rooting for her. And they could even have them meet before the reveal too and have Jamey fall for the real her before he knows she’s the one on the phone and have him tied between these two girls, not knowing they’re the same one. When he finds out it’s her he could be mad because she wasn’t upfront with him and it caused him stress because he thought he had to choose between two girls or whatever.
This is kind of what I was hoping originally. But it ended up being an catfishing plot
the title of the movie gives it away. Sierra Burgess resembles the name of the original story Cyrano de Bergerac. This story is about 400 years old. And since then there are different variations of this story.
That sounds like a better movie
I’d choose this over the plot given to us.
Anbessa Lea it’s nothing like Cyrano though. Cyrano never gets the girl in the end and he stays a good person through the whole story. The woman he loves is in love with a beautiful man and he actually helps that man (who also loves her) woo her. In the end she falls for his words but Cyr can’t reveal they were his, because the man dies before and he refuses to tarnish his memory. He’s punished for letting his insecurities get the best of him. Sierra is awful and still gets everything she wanted, it goes against every message of the original story
One thing I hate about Sierra is that she tries to play the victim the whole time even when she gets called out she goes home and yell at her parents about how ugly she is like GURL
Also kinda disappointed Dylan didn't know who Loretta Devine was (southern accent lady)
i only recognized her from greys anatomy, where else is she known for?
@@edna5764 a lot of Tyler Perry movies she's also from waiting to exhale and a lot of black related movies
Your profile pic tho!!!
ImTiredHoe it’s funny because i’m pretty sure she’s also the grandmother in everybody hates chris which he had literally just brought up so i was expecting him to point it out
sh uh she also played a character called Missouri Moseley on Supernatural.
I read a comic, where this scene 17:39 happened to the mc and the Mc had trauma and trust issues for YEARS. And he couldn't even kiss someone without feeling overwhelming dread and nausea. It was so sad damn
Whats the comic name??
If this is the bar for ‘ugly girl’ how are the actual teenage girls gonna see themselves??!?
SIERRA IS SOOOOO UNLIKABLE WTF. SHE STALKED AND CATFISHED AND DID STUFF THAT IS NOT OK AND PPL ACTUALLY LIKED HER bcs shes smart WTF. worst main character ever.
No one liked her... Seriously... Stop
RockBeauty :3 quite a few ppl did
@@rockbeauty3439 I've seen it, they do.... maybe you should stop
@@queenelizabethi5868 Hi, this comments is 3 months old and I've seen more people hating her than people liking her. In fact I've seen no one who likes her. Maybe you should stop?
ok? i liked her. but also JUST ASKING NO HATE!! but are you one of those ppl who would hate on the actor for their character???
I kinda hate this movie because it's sending a wrong message. Catfishing doesn't end like this and that first kissing was messed up.
Exactly ! Unless the main plot was a crazy stalker with low self esteem
But the kiss was not her intention
Thu Hang Pham yes but she still kissed him without his consent so it’s still messed up
this "i hate myself" movie series is literally the funniest thing on youtube. Always enjoy watching you laugh at these movies
17:29 I screamed the exact same word "THAT'S R*PE!!!" so unacceptable.
I’m so relieved i am not alone in thinking this movie isn’t necessarily «good » I got mad when she got her happy end. It wasn’t deserved at all! She catfished an innocent guy but hey we’re okay with it because she doesn’t have it easy in school? Alright then 😂
She had it perfectly fine in school she had a best friend and she didn’t even really let people get to her when they made fun of her she had it like any normal person it’s honestly disgusting what she did no sympathy at all #teamveronica ❤️
carelle.edits I knew a lot of chubby girls like her in school and they were getting good looking dudes but whatever. Hollywood thinks high school kids are dense and shallow still.We don’t live in the fucking 60s anymore lol.
I mean, they ARE still dense and shallow.
Yeah they are some teens at my school who are dense and shallow as the quiet have no social life person i see it a lot
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I preferred Veronica tbh
Georgia henshall cuz she was more attractive haaa
no because Veronica actually changes for the better while Sierra stays the same and doesn’t apologize for the shitty things she did
@@halam7661 Verpnica had character development and was an entertaining arc to watch. Her being attractive wasn't entirely anyone's motive in prefering her to Sierra. Sierra is gorgeous imo but her actions were ugly and she got no development or retributions for them.
Agreed
@@Jhey-jq4xf you do know he was joking...
No Sierra. Just no.
I think that the movie is literally telling us why she IS a loser because damn, girl is a terrible person.
Dylan every five minutes, “is she gonna murder him” 💀💀
Here I’ll turn on the reality switch for you guys
Ending:
Siera gets charged with sexual assault and Jamie gets a restraining order. Veronica apologizes to Jamie and they become good friends. Siera loses all of her friend and doesn’t get accepted into college because of what happened. Everyone els goes to college and pursues their careers while Siera lives with her parents, working in an office job. The end :)
Perfect.This is genius.
Man, if only you were the writer of this movie 😂.
THANK YOU. better ending. more realistic. fat girls ARE NOT = ugly girls. she is ugly because the way she treat her friends that actually care about her badly.
Beautiful
This is so much more interesting than the actual movies ending. I would pay to see this hahah
Why is the plot for dylan always something bout *MURDER* 😂💀
Lee Marie more interesting
Lee Marie he’s messed up. Lol 😂😂😂😂
Hahaha I literally thought she was gonna hit Veronica with the brick
Because it never happens and he needs it to get it out of his system 😗... I imagine
It's funny
The fact that he mixed up 'now that's what i call music' and 'everybody hates Chris' is killing me
I really don't get Sierra's struggle. At the beginning it seemed like she didn't care about her looks but at the end she's crying that it's hard to "LIVE LOOKING LIKE THIS!!!"
Overall her grades are great, she has a friend, she just is desperate for a guys attention
I didn’t want her to have a happy ending . She was literally being such a terrible person
Maxine Beth nuh she wasn’t terrible come on ppl still missing the point omg 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@halam7661 Okay, so what's the point?
hala milad cat fishing, public humiliation to an entire school, and borderline sexual assault doesn’t make a person terrible?
@@halam7661 wtf
The thing that bothered me most about this movie (besides the catfishing, assault, deaf-faking, and everything phobic jokes) is that at the beginning when Jamey texts her and she's like "Who is this?" and he sends her the picture of his face she doesn't immediately respond with something along the lines of "Sorry, I still don't know who you are." For whatever reason, she just starts talking to him like she knows why he's texting her and she doesn't find out for way too long that he thinks he's texting Veronica. Any normal person would have pretty quickly been like "Who exactly do you think you're texting?" unless they were going for a prank...
I think she knew who Jamie was though because of school
@@orlangres wasn't he on their football team?
The thing is as well is that she's not even ugly tbh, she's just overweight, and that was her entire "redemption" plot. Like girl, I'm fat, but I don't go around using it as an excuse to catfish and humiliate my friends and pretend I'm deaf and stuff.
This movie really tried to say "you want a boyfriend? Just catfish him!"
Man I can't stop staring at your teeth, they 're so pretty.
Bongkrek Acid ‘your teeth’ that’s cute
Lee Trevis what’s cute about it?
Megan Downs ‘his’ teeth, nah fam
same
So true hun
Funny that attractive characters who like people based off of their physical appearance are viewed as shallow, but unattractive characters do it all the time and no one bats an eye
Damn that tea was hot
Not just hot that tea was boiling
Spot on sis
oh fuck
As a band kid their marching outfits make me wanna cry
The only person on UA-cam who actually tries to say Noah Centipede’s actual name and still ended up mispronouncing it
Yea I really wanted to like this movie but....it ain’t it
hey it's A! same
To all the boys i loved was much better
@@humzaakbar9706 it made TATBILB a masterpiece.
I like this movie.
HUMZA AKBAR Completely different things.
This movie made me kinda mad like I get that she's not the 'pretty girl' in school or whatever and people treated her bad because of it, but what she did was so wrong so why is she portrayed as some kind of hero at the end?! And Jamey's just gonna forgive and forget that she played him and scammed him so hard?? Then still think she's a good person and date her at the end?? It's so unrealistic and it kinda portrays this kinda next level catfishing in a good light, when it's completely wrong and realistically, the guy would probably never talk to the girl again. urgH I so wanted to like this movie, but it's sO frustrating
(ps. Jamey deserved so much better smh)
edit: I missed this out of my op but let's not forget she kissed him without consent and went to such far lengths to deceive him. Then proceeded to try and humiliate Veronica, who was trying to help her, because she did something that wasn't her fault. It's effectively Sierra's fault for creating a situation in which Jamey kissing Veronica was bound to happen? I get the message that they're trying to put across with this movie but they could have gone about it in a much better way. Catfishing and deceiving (especially to this extent) and doing things without consent shouldn't be portrayed as things that's going to 'get you the guy' and like after the kiss scene, Sierra was shown so happy with herself, but it's so wrong. urgH idk I think they're unintentionally sending the wrong message.
Rosie right. Like she posted private stuff about Veronica. Hard core catfishes him to the point of getting Veronica to go on a date with him. Then she just makes a song and it fixes everything. How does that make any sense?
meagan everett literally!!! That’s what I’m talking about, writing a song doesn’t reverse all the bad stuff she did!
Rosie as someone who has been cat-fished before and by a friend this movie irked me. I tried to see the better of it but really the only good thing that came out of this movie was her best friend and Veronica other then that it’s all trash 🤦🏽♀️
Exactly my thoughts!!
Rosie FINALLY. i agree 100%. what kind of message is this giving teenagers? if you have low self esteem its is totally acceptable to manipulate someone online? No one deserves to be bullied but using that as a defence is just not right to me. I commented before the movie came out and i just got hate from people so i'm really glad i'm not the only one who shares this view!
“If you don’t love yourself, how the hell are you gonna love someone else?”
- RuPaul
This movie is so bad. No chemistry between the two leads and at one point I thought the two girls would end up together because they had all the chemistry.
You know what would’ve made a good story? If they’d actually stuck to the Cyrano de Bergerac themes. It could’ve gone like this:
Veronica has a crush on Jamey. Unfortunately, he’s not only handsome, but very smart and she doesn’t think she could impress him. So she asks Sierra to help her woo him. Sierra agrees and helps her study and write messages to him. Throughout that time, she also sees Jamey around and they bond as friends and he tells her about how he really likes this girl he’s been texting. Even though she’s been writing these texts, she won’t betray her friend and she thinks 2 beautiful people belong together. When Veronica and Jamey start dating, they get along, but he comments on how much easier it is to talk to her on the phone. Veronica realizes he actually likes Sierra and encourages her to confess to him, but Sierra still feels like she’s too much of a loser to date him. Time passes and around graduation, Sierra is valedictorian and her speech makes Jamey realize she’s the one he actually likes. He meets her after and tells her he loves her but they’re graduating and going to different colleges. Sierra let her insecurities keep her from this relationship.
Or it could be a song at a talent show right before homecoming or something, so they can actually have a relationship, but, keep in mind that in the original story, Cyrano lets years go by and only only hints the truth to Roxanne right before his death
Me too
You should’ve been on the writing team for this movie sheesh
Okay, I’m sad that this isn’t the actual movie. I need it in my life.
Yeah that would have been a much better story
I would've much preferred that plot line
*hey, you catfished me, wanna go to prom?*
Lol
The actress is actually singing the song she wrote. She sings a few lines in the musical episodes of Riverdale and is one of the strongest singers on the show.
His football monologue in the show is giving "The epic highs and lows of high school football" from Riverdale