Game Designers Create Online Loyalty Oath 4 Harris
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2024
- Once again, Woke game designers have made a loyalty list for designers to prove they will vote the "correct" way. Some of the people who signed will surprise you.
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I appreciate their compiling this list for me and saving me from having to do my own research.
Yes, it's very useful in that sense. Spread the word, share the video.
Same 😊
@@steelmongoose4956 Where can the list be found?
I'm somewhat surprised that Gary Gygax, Dave Arneson, Greg Stafford, Dave Hargrave, M.A.R. Barker, and a few other late great designers aren't on the list. The Dead are well known for voting for Democrats.
LOL.
Yes they do sometime in multiple states
This comment is funny, because it is true.
Real life examples of necromancy in action. Do they slap some "I Voted Today!" Stickers on their coffins or headstones?
For those of you who don't know California history, her entire political career was built on her relationship with Willie Brown who ran California for about 30 years. She literally slapped her way to the top that is not an exaggeration in this case. If you don't believe me Willie set it out loud himself. Look it up Willie Brown, Kamala Harris.
6 hours later and it now says "More than 500 creators of your favorite games"
The list just keeps growing. My bank account thanks them for doing this.
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Nothing says rebel like swearing loyalty to the establishment.
🤨 Absolute clowns
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The only "black" in Harris was Willie Brown and Montel Williams
400 people who don't need their customers to have money to spend
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Basically everyone at WotC, Paizo, Chaosium, Green Ronin, Monte Cook Games, Steve Jackson Games and many more.
I know I have seen many of these people online claiming they are not political or partisan, denying there is any wokeness in D&D, etc.
Excellent video Pundit. Thank you.
Chaosium "we do not want racists/bigots/something-ist-phobics," meanwhile Lovecraft's Call of Cthulhu...
Thank you. I suspect that it's being repressed algorithmically, so please spread the word, share the video!
A community that largely (no wholly) came into being through the mass rejection of their outward displaying health & genetic qualities (ex: "eww, go away you gross nerd!") is bound to carry a much larger than usual presence of "reasoning formation damaged" people. Especially when one considers how susceptible the human brain is to being a manifestation point for genetic abnormalities
On a side note i get really pissed whenever someone tells me i have to vote because it always comes with an unsaid "for my prefered candidate".
I live in England and in 2015 I did not really care to vote and someone kept bothering me saying if you don't vote ukip might get in. I turned to them and said what if i want to vote for ukip. The blank look on face when they couldn't even comprehend someone having a different worldview from them was priceless. So i actually looked into ukip instead of what the bbc said about them and found ukip to be far more reasonable then the main stream would have you believe. So i voted for ukip to spite the person who demanded i voted.
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You have the right to not vote but when you dont you also have lesser right to complain when your laws change for the better or the worse
@@juusovalli9690 this sentiment does not stand up to scrutiny for 2 reasons.
1) so there is this law you don't like but all the parties were pushing it. By your argument if you do not vote for anyone you are not allowed to complain but if you voted for a party you are also not allowed to complain but you voted for this law.
2) I am talking about the UK. We do not get what we vote for we get what the cathedral wants.
Finally it's okay to tell politically engaged people in a political context to vote but they are almost never the target. The target is normally the politically unengaged who become low information voters who are easily befuddled and controlled.
@@_Sinduss If you cant find anyone that agrees with you on certain law its still better to vote for the party that you see as the lesser of the evils. Its the only way to make change other than becoming politically involved yourself.
@@_Sinduss And you still can complain about the changes that the party that you voted for does. By making your voice heard as voter of a party you affect the partys future.
Saved me from some upcoming purchases. Glad they posted it.
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My last post here... In Poland we have a name for such documents. We call it "lojalka", it has very negative meaning.
Hope they make every name public so we all know who are the traitors of their own people and country
The list of names is there, at gamers4harris dot org.
Loyalty oaths. Clap for Harris. The first to stop clapping will be sent to the reeducation camp.
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After the RPG "October Surprise" gave Biden the win in 2020, I swore I would never...
...oh, wait. No one cares what these people think.
I walked away from the RGP last year. I witnessed the TDS at gencon 2016. At gencon the group from Canonfire would have a meet and greet. The worst one was Anna Meyers (she redesigns the World of Greyhawk map). At a restaurant and the bar had Fox news on and she went on a TDS Rant. And most just sat there quiet. I just had enough of the bullshit.
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Steve Jackson also did an abortion advocacy on the main SJG site after Roe v. Wade was struck down. I found that annoying and was one reason I started to care less for GURPS. Glad I found the OSR.
In theory, Jackson's previous libertarianism could be concurrent with a pro-abortion stance, though obviously there's a lot of debate about that in libertarianism. But how can he support the weaponization of the Justice Department?!
@@RPGPundit I consider myself libertarian, but I still find not giving a child the chance of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness abhorrent. Also, TDS is how you can abandon your principles.
They also have a "not male" employee that makes bizarre posts on her public social media about dreaming of "the remains of many not alive men"
@@RPGPundit Which would be ironic considering his own run-in with the Feds.
Oh my God I had not heard this!! I played GURPS for 30 years and briefly traded emails with him once where he told me he was a Libertarian. He's been the victim directly, himself, of the Federal government shoving it's wang into his life and nearly bankrupting him (look up the GURPS Cyberpunk/Secret Service debacle) and he's been quite vocal about it. But now this??
The best economy...? I'm going to try not to ponder that one too deeply. I mean, I know they lie/are delusional but that's freaking crazy. LOL
Yeah, that was wild.
Dear god… might as well just pass out the kool-aid now…
The 2016 one was the most famous and aggressive of these, but the 2024 edition is by far the most delusional. Spread the word, share the video!
@@RPGPundit Might as well be going to the Jim Jones Cool Aid recipe. Those guys signing that pledge are not going to make sales. The only reason they are doing this is to find out who in their company doesn't support Kamala to fire them. They will stop giving them work and fire them within a year.
They should go immediately to HR and complain about political loyalty tests as a reason for employment and discrimination and hostile workforce. If they do it right they will be able to get the organizers fired.
The people of Jonestown drank grape Flavoraide. It is my curse to mention this. 😅
Hans...Get Flammenwerfer.
The groß one.....😑
How many on the list are TTRPG sensitivity/diversity readers/editors?
A lot of editors. Not sure how many are sensitivity readers. There were a good number of names I didn't recognize myself.
Of course they did
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Catalyst Labs who have the Battletech rights are as woke as you can get. Marvel, DC, Disney, all wokety-woke as to ruin their brand in the name of wokeness. Steve Jackson's antics in the last two decades broke my heart because he made it clear that he did not like people like me. Paizo repelled me with their insane hatred. I miss the old days when these lefty creators didn't mix their politics with their game. I won't miss them going forward. I hope Trump wins and makes them scream again.
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Its what happens when the public permits an ideology to grow into a religion.
THAT is why its different now.
Thanks for specifying "1930s German". The detail is appreciated.
Well, saying the name of the political movement specifically would get me potentially demonetized, and just saying "germans" in general would be too broad.
@@RPGPundit I get that it's required self-censorship.
What I meant was that some UA-camrs actually keep things "broad" out of laziness. I'm entirely serious that appreciate the precision. I know it should be normal, but it's not.
Keep up the good work in general!
I'm still hoping that the ones that promised to leave the country in 2016 will finally follow through on that in 2024. Doubtful but I can hope.
Highly unlikely.
Why bother with oaths when their word means nothing?
Because "silence is violence". You have to say that 2+2=5 or you are a thought criminal (even if you say nothing).
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@@RPGPundit True.
"There are X lights! I will have to check with Policy for the figure!"
I guess if they could support zombie for US president, they can support even captain Kirk.
Is it just me, or can anyone else not find any reference to this online? I've searched "gamers for harris" a dozen times and nothing related to RPGs comes up.
Its at gamers4harris dot org
I'm really sad to hear Jeff Grubb's name on there, he was always one of my favorites
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Support anti-woke independent creators... start with attending Wisconsin's VENGER CON in July next year.
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It saddens me that one of Gary Gygax's own children is on this list.
Yes, that one was a surprise, though apparently people who know the Gygax family better than me were not surprised.
@@RPGPundit Outside of possibly Ernie Gygax, who among that family is actually on our side?
@@Gangrel442003 the only Gygax that matters: Gary.
6:15 You forgot, she has also given BJs to get into positions of power.
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You should sign it. Just to watch everyone freak out.
That would be wild.
@@RPGPundit It would be hilarious.
Reproductive rights=right to end reproduction during reproduction.
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Sad to see people like Steve Jackson, Zeb Cook, Jeff Grubb, Roger Moore, Sean Reynolds Warren Spector and Skip Williams sign this.
I hope they come to their senses one day.
One would hope, but the TDS is strong...
yet another reason not to play GURPS
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Jamey Stegmaier is on it. He published some really good (and successfull) boardgames
16:54 lol I just asked you about him recently in regards to buying gurps old west for a setting book! I bought it, what a turn of events!
Well, GURPS Old West is still a pretty good book. Did you buy it from SJG? Or used?
@@RPGPundit Amazon, yeah the product is definitely good, it’s a shame to see him on the list…
This is the best thing I ever saw.
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The list is a the "Red Army" of today.
Very sad.
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Where can we find this list? I want to spread it far and wide so everyone knows who not to trust or buy TTRPG products from.
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Seconded
I like the fact that a significant amount of them worked on sequels and havr no orginal work credits.
On par with the lack of imganiation that push them towards those obvious.pandering initiative.
Politics being unironnicaly the main selling point of a RPG product baffle me.
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Michael Stackpole? How disappointing. :(
I read quite a few BattleTech books by him, and several others I think.
Steve Jackson? Well, he nuked Car Wars by switching it over to GURPS, so screw him.
Roger Moore & Jeff Grub?!? :(
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Most women I saw on the higher post of governments and the UE lately, except Angela Merkel, which was some kind of gold standard for me and I would wanted her for prime minister of Poland aren't better than their male counterparts. Their are surely more aggressive though.
thankyou very much for the list. Most disappointing is Steve Jackson and Chris Pramas. Both great game designers (Gurps, Ogre and WFRP2) My heart bleeds but I will sell their stuff which I own asap. I dont support such totalitarians anymore.
Pramas was not surprising at all, he was woke before almost anyone else.
@@RPGPundit I didnt know this. I thought someone who made the best WFRP version yet, is a normal person from a political POV.
Well, he also helped make Blue Rose, the very first "woke" rpg
@@RPGPundit ah, ok. thanks for the info. I didnt know this.
Sadly Troll Lord Games business name appeared on the loyalty oath with their social media manager. They've been really good up to now keeping their business name out of politics, so we'll see if they do anything to remove it
Maybe the bosses at Troll Lord don't know? Someone ought to tell them.
@@RPGPundit I posted it on the community group but an admin removed it. So I sent one of them a private message letting him know. I don't care if she wants to make a dumb choice and put her name on the list but I am willing to bet that the business doesn't want their name on this list.
@@RPGPundit though we'll see if he actually even looks at the message because I'm a nobody. Them being non-political was the biggest draw for me. So to see their company name on a list of oath taking cultist document was a blow.
@@RPGPundit he surprisingly did get back to me and asked to have the company name removed from the site
@@Doodle1776 could you just confirm this again to make sure I've got it right: you told Troll Lord about their social media manager, and Troll Lord told you that they want their name off of gamers4harris?
Not to be grandiose, but AD&D 2.5 was a formative set of books for me. They taught me the basics of telling a story, and every classic I play I can trace DIRECTLY back to the formation of the modern day RPG through that set of books. 1 and 1.5 were closer to wargaming but can absolutely take some credit as well here. I say all of that to say this: Dungeons and Dragons has done more to spill ink and create art than almost any other title has claim to, as it is a guide to create stories that people are inclined to pick up as opposed to studying Shakespeare and The Bible. No one cult should have dominion over that. Writers are at the bedrock of culture, because it's their ideas that steer the zeitgeist moving forward. Philip K. Dick and Orwell are evidence of that.
tl;dr, D&D and your work is important, and the leftists co-opting everything in culture is getting pretty damn annoying. No space for center, right of center, or political atheism. At some point, the creative levy is gonna break...
I feel like nerds have been less prepared for the age of ultra-partisan, team politics, precisely because they've never been fans of sports and have never belonged to a team. Just the basic experiences of playing sports, being a huge fan for a football team, or any kind of team, it teaches you some lessons and seasons your emotions for how it all works. You have experience handling a loss, you understand things don't always go your way, you realize that you can have your heart broken but life moves on and you get over it. Democrats haven't held the White House for more than 8 years during any of their lives. This notion that you're just not going to be able to handle life unless your party wins every election from the rest of time, when they clearly won't, it's just stupid.
True. The danger is they want to turn America into a One-Party State.
While a few of these (particularly a couple of those from the TSR days) are surprising, I've been aware of most of the big names listed. I do appreciate them self-identifying as either idjits or "useful" idjits.
That early November morning of 2016 broke a lot of folks' tenuous grasp on reality, and we're STILL seeing side-effects 8 years later.
Specifically, I'll point out Matt Forbeck as being consumed by derangement.
I liked his work back in OG Deadlands, and really love his "Brave New World" superheroes setting. I'm sure he still thinks of himself as being on the side of the Defiance (resistance) to the fascist control of the US in that setting compared to the real world, but self-delusion is a helluva drug.
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Ah, Jeff Grubb ... say it ain't so 😢
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No shippero is not liked in my RPG world
So if they did the same thing for trump it would be ok right?
Also where is this ?
It's gamers4harris dot org. I think it would be pretty lame if a group of based gamers did the same for Trump, but it wouldn't have the connotation of a loyalty oath with the threat of a blacklisting, because the Trump supporters don't play that way, and also don't control the centers of power in the industry.
I've voted for Trump, but only because RPGpundit wasn't on the ballot.
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Hail Shit Lord
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Hey Pundent, I've been writing a vampire TTRPG. Is there anyway I can send it to you for a glance over and some notes? I'd understand if you're not interested
Is it OSR?
@@RPGPundit honestly I can't say for sure. I do know that the way I've built the game is that it's not supposed to hold your hand and make you into a superhero who's all kinds of special. As a spawn you're lucky to survive an encounter with anything above normal humans. You start off with almost all the stereotypical flaws vampires have, which makes it very easy for you to die, but the stronger you get the more resistance to weakness you gain and the more you evolve into a whole other creature.
@@RPGPundit I definitely want it to lean Old School and make it a game as opposed to just a story telling sim like the Masquerade. I've used real historical vampiric creatures from all over the world and some I've been inspired by in films and TV and I'm looking to make my first RPG a real success.
Where is Lindroos?
In a bout of delicious irony, she was Cancelled a couple of years ago.
I think it's good. America is a very important country globally, and the choice between candidates is extreme. If someone has a belief one way or another they have every fucking right to campaign politically to try to get the best outcome for them and their country.
I would also support the rights for people to organise a "TTRPG Talent for Trump" group too. Being engaged with politics is a good thing.
The difference is that the left has control over the corporate world. Some of the people who put their name to this list did so because they will likely be blacklisted if they don't.
Yeah, that's life. Sometimes, people will face pressure to conform because the majority of their peers act or think a certain way. I bet there's a lot of rural, Christian folks who've felt compelled to attend Trump rallies despite thinking he's a bit Fashy, because they don't wanna be kicked out of their church.
I still support the right for free expression of politics, even when peer pressure is a thing. It's better than the alternative
@@Naren25 I strongly doubt anyone is being forced to attend Trump rallies. That said there may be some towns where people would be afraid to put Harris signs on their lawn.
@@RPGPundit It was a clumsy example, I'll admit
Where can we see the list?
gamers4harris dot org
Is there a link to the list?
gamers4harris dot org
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This is hyperbole. They are endorsing the candidate, but there is no demand that anyone follow them. You endorse Trump, they endorse Harris, what is the difference?
The difference is that the Left has captured control over all the institutions, including gaming companies. I know for a fact there are people on that list who signed to avoid being blacklisted if they want to do work in the rpg "industry".
Damn, i liked Dragon Age and Fantasy Age, too
Bad Chris Pramas sucks.
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I bet there were many people in Germany that were shocked with what they got when they voted for you know who.
A most assuredly sad place to have found oneself in having supported what came to be.
This is about whether 'you' want to even risk the possibility that 'you' may end up wearing those same shoes.
The Totalitarians are on the Left. It's the American left that wants an all-powerful federal government enforcing their ideology in a total national scale. The Trump right wants to strip the deep state and devolve a great deal of power to the individual states, which is the only non-war formula to achieve a social peace in the United States where disparate regions have vastly different ideological views.
@@RPGPundit Totalitarians are only ever left?
@@philh8259apparently so
As a rule, yes. Right-wing anti-democrats tend to be Authoritarian.
@@RPGPundit If elected again what was Trump's day one pronouncement about dictatorship? Did Trump say that if elected again the Christian right would never have to worry about voting again? Do these seem like anti democratic sentiments from Trump?
Whats the problem with people expressing who they will vote?
The problem is with it being used as a loyalty test for the game design industry.
Not sure if you are being wrong as usual or intellectually dishonest.
What am I being wrong about? I was literally quoting verbatim from their website.