I'm not gonna lie, these days were incredibly exciting. Armstrong, Ulrich, Basso, then Vinokourov, Schleck, Contador, but honestly, how does anybody expect these drivers to do it without doping? The Tour de France is just inhumane, absolute lunacy!
It would be great sport and spectacular, even if nobody would do doping. Maybe 20 minutes longer for one stage. Who cares? Any maybe drivers would more often have a bad day, because of a hard tour. So even more exciting.
Why would you lie? They were exciting! They say ignorance is bliss. Now we looked back, and at one point or another those top guys were caught doping. I wouldn't say they needed to for the grueling competition, but just to be able to compete. We all know how Miguel Indurain abandoned the race in 1996. For whatever number of reasons but he was being smacked by many of the competitors. 32yrs old Bjarne Riis flew thru that tour, and later admitted he was doping. A 23 yrs old Ulrich, on his same team came in 2nd; clean? He won it the next year. Pantani won it in 1998, and died of health problems due to the use of drugs. It was in 2000 when I saw Pantani destroyed the field in a mountain event, and then he quit the tour because of some health issue. I didn't know exactly how doping worked at that time, but I remember thinking, what in the world did this guy take? Did I love watching Panatani? Heck yeah! But he died as a direct consequence of drugs overuse. He still shows as the 1998 TDF winner. Ulrich as the 1997 winner. Lance punishment came as a result of his asshole personality (I loved him as an athlete but couldn't be his friend) and all the shit he did to others. So doped guys, we're doped guys competing against each other. We didn't know about it, and we enjoyed it.
So true...do you know so many tears later it has been proven the over 90...nine out of 10 used some sort of banned drug?...not defending lance...but you have never been there..all the bikes pass the cars...stop bashing if you dont know the whole truth.
The German Rider in Teal Green ( Jan Ullrich ) waited for Lance Armstrong to catch up after his fall because Lance Armstrong did the same once to wait for Jan Ullrich when he fell down in one other race >>> That's the Mark of a Fair & True Champion! 🌷🌿🌍💖🇺🇸🇩🇪
Doping or not, all these riders were on another level either way. Nobody can deny the tremendous amount of training and work they all put in for years.
@@SheepDog1974 It could never be an even playing field, because people react differently to PEDs, they can take different PEDs, and none of it is regulated.
I agree. They were all doping and Armstrong was the clear champion. I live cycling but the doping has not and never will change. What they do is superhuman
When I was a kid we never wore helmets on our bikes or skiing or mini-biking or skateboarding. At the time Evel Knievel was doing crazy jumps and we would all be making ramps and doing jumps over all kinds of crazy stuff, no helmets. We didn't wear seatbelts in the car either. We would ride 6 kids in the way-back of the Ford Gran Torino Wagon unrestrained with the tailgate window wide open. And it's not like nothing bad ever happened. I am not making any of this up. The 60's and 70's were hardcore. You either survived or you died. I knew a few who died.
I can say as kid here in Australia many years ago riding a bike you couldn’t wear a helmet because there wasn’t any in those days , never seen a helmet really until they made it law here to wear one otherwise no one used them.
Tyler Eaton ... that’s how life was back then , there wasn’t the rules we all have today, life was way more relaxed, now we can’t fart with out a permit. No permit you get find lol yes a bit over the top but that’s how it’s getting these days.
No it was not. It was always the same thing. He would always win, whatever happened. In the mountains, he would let everybody standing on their pedals like salt statues, while he remained seated on his bike, rushing like he was riding harley davidson. The cheating was obvious to anybody knowing the sport, obvious to anyone knowing the tour. The UCI and the tour would shut up because he was bringing usa fans. But he was not even subtle, his cheating was vulgar, and he was a bully to anyone standing up to him, including the great Greg Lemond. A true champion who had us cheering for him in the late eighties, earning everybody's respect the hard way.
They still are. They are still on a crazy other level. Watch Icarus. Dope doesn't just make you win the tour. I could train my whole life , take all the dope in the world. I still would finish dead last against these guys.
I came here to verify that Pogacar is reminding me of my childhood Lance Armstrong memories. Meaning, the fact that Lance was on the juice, showing unhuman performances....nothing but despite for him.
Dude got dropped out of the crash. Got back up, and is dropping dudes that can't hold his wheel left and right while spending 90% of the time out of the saddle. UNREAL. I remember being little and so proud of my fellow countryman!
How sad it must be to be proud of one of the greatest cheats in the history of sports recognized by himself. It's like being proud of the one who wins playing with children.
@@pedrilopez6588 If Lance was competing against Children maybe this would be true. But the reality is, he was racing against Super Humans who most of which were doping the same as him.
@@jonhowland4985 hahahahahaah , It seems that you forget when he appeared on television crying, acknowledging that he was a cheater, you are the ones who have to overcome him and know that he had nothing of superman, they put him as superman because he came out of a serious illness and did what he did, until what we all already knew was shown, THAT HE WAS A FUCKING CHEATER.
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Something that has always fascinated me is how they can deliver 300-400 watts of power for +-1 hour with such "thin" legs. Just imagine, you are 180cm tall and 65-70kg cyclist. At that height and weight your legs aren't bulky and can't even be very muscular (muscle is heavier than fat) if you want to sustain that kind of power for a long time. Crazy.
@@rosetallon1162No, it's called being a freak of nature. That's like saying Usain Bolt wouldn't be fast without drugs lmao, and he's obviously taking drugs too btw. He still would be the best regardless. Its the same with Lance.
Lance made me start watch cycling. Jordan had just quit the Bulls so no more basketball for me. But following Lance was almost as exciting as watching the Bulls.
@@FraudkovicIt’s a race man. You are watching a ball going back and forth for hours. You can make any sport sound stupid… Respect sports, you don’t have to love it.
@@markuspetersen5510 lol a 10 hour race is just a stupid idea . A race should be short and sweet and gripping . Not something that you turn off for 5 hours and then put it on again for 5 mins just to check the standings.
I dont care what other people say. Lance Armstrong is still my favorite Tour de France rider. That man won 7 years after each other. One of the best and there will be nobody who can beat him on that.
Last years TdF battle between Vingegaard and Pogačar was pretty epic! But I first got hooked on grand tour cycling in the Armstrong era. It was all so exciting, particularly this very race! I have since read all the books, watched all the interviews and docs, and to be honest, in my opinion, Lance IS a 7 CONSECUTIVE times TdF winner! I doubt if that will happen again in my lifetime. Love or hate the person, he was an absolute beast on the bike!
Couldn't agree less. Former anti-doping director thinks he had a motor hidden in his bike. He was no legend. Just really good at cheating and bullying.
Dope or no dope, he was exciting to watch, however…I’d have maintained a lot more respect for the man if he hadn’t tried to ruin the lives of those who spoke out against him for cheating when he knew fine well he was the ringleader and those people were speaking the truth.
I agree he was a beast on bike. One doesn't simply win 7 Tours only with dopping. It takes a lot of very hard training, sacrifices, 365 days per year preparing mentally and physically for this race.
Just watched the Lance docu on iplayer. Very interesting. Basically he was told if you don't dope up you ain't winning shit. The human body without dope couldn't cope with the relentless demands of the tour. If you can't beat em then you had to join em.
I love how people always go. He was a doped. Every great cyclist is doping. Do you really ,believe Jonas and Tadej are not cheating now. Cheating is about 5 to 10 years in front of where the current testing limits are. These guys are setting records up climbs that Armstrong wish you could’ve done. Equipment is part of it .The reality of every great cyclist cheats Part of it, is they are naturally talented more then their competitors. The doping helps that much more. Armstrong was the best of the dopers at the time. So was Eddie. I still at admire these guys cause it’s something I could only dream of doing. I’ll still watch the sport. I’ll still watch the old videos and give a salute. Because it was still remarkable at the time, regardless of dope or not.
They were ALL doping, so it was an even field, and his margins of victory were from :59 to 5:35… His prep couldn’t be matched. He saw lesser riders winning because they doped, so he decided to even the odds. His personality issues are another story… those were the days.
@@slumdogpreacher6964 not just back then but from the very beginning if it wasn’t cocaine it was amphetamine and after it was hormones era and the testo era the EPO era and now the electric engine era
Lance is legend. Doping or not doesn’t matter he’s a legend. Everyone was doping then. He was still better. You don’t get that good/better because you have the best dope. Everyone had the same shit…
Колкото и да го оплюват бил е невероятен.Взимал е всякаква химия но и другите са взимали.Просто е бил много добър.И днес не е по различно колоезденето.
I never quite understood what happened for official overall winners, years after the fact, when they crossed Lance Armstong out all those times. Was it just no winner at all or did they pick the next guy down who didn't technically test positive for EPO or whatever else?
e-bike motor activation at 0:13, when he touches underneath his bike saddle? I’m still a big fan, amazing sport moment of my childhood. But still trying to process the magic.
Spot on. Why do you think they never passed on the victories during the Lance era to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th? Because a)they were all doped and b)no frenchie in the top 10. When Armstrongs confession came out, the french tele invited for-crying-out-loud Richard bloody Virenque !!!
@@Psychedelic430 isn't ignorance a joyfull bliss ? Sure, those were the cycling days. But if you really, truly, and sincerely believe those blokes got up to Tourmalet faster than Merckx, Indurain or even Bahamontes could descend it...well, 'bout time to wake up and smell the coffee instead of smoking it. Holy crap, I remember footage of Pantini having to BRAKE when going up Plat D Adet or the Aubisque !!!!
People commenting on Lance doping as if there is a single rider from then until now that doesn't dope. Riders today are faster than ever, and you think that they somehow just magically improved over riders who were juiced to the gills? Grow up. Lance is just the greatest cyclist to get caught doping. No unenhanced human has competed in the TDF in decades.
Lances ferocious mentality is what won him 7 straight tours, dude was an absolute animal after sitting on deaths door. It’s a real shame all his tours got revoked, every tour winner doped for many decades. Lance was the best of them all!
it's a fact that being "doped" is more healthy for your body than not being doped if you wanna ride the TdF. the race is so gruesome, people burn 3KG+ off their muscles from start to finish. Feel free to ride a single 200km stage with a 45km/h. you can maybe do that in the peloton, but you won't come up the mountains anymore. neither would you produce 10W/KG after those 200km. kudos on you
I can only imagine the times, wattage averages this guys would put out on nowadays equipment, not only the bikes, but the powermeters, nutricion, groupsets and wheels & tires
All took and still take and will always have to take stuff. Armstrong deserves all 7 Tour wins- and I am no Armstrong fan because he never did the entire season like Merckx and all the others. He won the Tours fair and square- no advantage of possibilities over the others. He was a perfectionist at what he did. They pay the price with their health anyway- mainly cancer- Anquetil dead at 57, Fignon at 50, etc. Even LeMond's muscle mass at the beginning looked steriody as well- kidney loss from what?
In terms of doping, Lance Armstrong was years ahead of the other competitors, Of course everyone was using EPO at the time, but Armstrong wasn't only on EPO, He went further using steroids, blood transfusions, he use testosterone to aid recovery between races, Lance Armstrong’s operation was the most systematic doping scheme in sport history
All the other competitors used everything and more that you just mentioned too. Even in my amateur days in South Africa we were experimenting with testo, Anapolon, etc for power gain at a very low level. Ivan Basso had testicular cancer for example , one big possible side effect of testo usage. Lance deserves the wins. They should legalise it- would be healthier (no masking agents, which also have side effects) and proper medical control at any given time. Allso the discussions would be more honest in the public eye. You wanna be successful at Wall Street with an attitude of Jesus or Ghandi- it will not work. 😉
@@christianloher150 anapolon that’s oxy / anadrol 50 that’s some serious shit power lifters use it why would a cyclist use that it’s to hard on the body gain weight like a motherfuk blood pressure and the rest ? Yes I can see why there use test to aid recovery but oxy ?
That is the thing that we can’t remove from Lance. We can remove his titles, sponsors and records be we will never remove his pure will to win and push his mind through pain to the limit.
wdym dope or not lmao, his performances was good because of the dope and the reason he was better than the other guys was because he had the best doctor at that time to tell him exactly when and how to use the drugs he provided.
@@bobmiller4343 Read the comment again dipshit "dope or not, the dude put in some amazing efforts, most of those guys use the same" bla bla bla. He was cheating, so was the others he was just better at cheating cause of dr ferrari so he won. The early 2000s is literally known as the dark years of cycling.
Epic?? He is the greatest cheater ever alive!! And here, even more shameful he started, to attack after the yellow jersey fell due to a dumb supporter along the road ….. that is just not done ……. The guy has ‘bastard’ written all over his forehead!
Pro cycling courtesy protocol. If your in a breakawy lead and a fellow rider goes down your slow and allow them to catch up. Jan Ullrich did not give Lance that courtesy and he paid for it in the end. You van see the determination and anger in Lance's eyes. He was not going to lose.
according to Tyler Hamilton's book, Jan Ulrich slowed down a bit but not a lot as didn't quite know what was going on; Hamilton told him to slow down (which Ulrich did) then Armstrong bridged back and then took off and rest is history; despite by that time not being on the same teams and competing Armstrong messaged Hamilton's wife to thank him for taking that step that night - if I remember this was the year Hamilton had a broken shoulder but still got 4th and had the huge breakaway a couple of days after this
They all cheated. Every single one of them were doped up, Armstrong just had some different level dope combined with insane genetics. Yes he was a cheat but he was the best of a whole bunch of cheats.
I'm not gonna lie, these days were incredibly exciting. Armstrong, Ulrich, Basso, then Vinokourov, Schleck, Contador, but honestly, how does anybody expect these drivers to do it without doping? The Tour de France is just inhumane, absolute lunacy!
It would be great sport and spectacular, even if nobody would do doping. Maybe 20 minutes longer for one stage. Who cares? Any maybe drivers would more often have a bad day, because of a hard tour. So even more exciting.
Why would you lie? They were exciting! They say ignorance is bliss. Now we looked back, and at one point or another those top guys were caught doping. I wouldn't say they needed to for the grueling competition, but just to be able to compete. We all know how Miguel Indurain abandoned the race in 1996. For whatever number of reasons but he was being smacked by many of the competitors. 32yrs old Bjarne Riis flew thru that tour, and later admitted he was doping. A 23 yrs old Ulrich, on his same team came in 2nd; clean? He won it the next year. Pantani won it in 1998, and died of health problems due to the use of drugs. It was in 2000 when I saw Pantani destroyed the field in a mountain event, and then he quit the tour because of some health issue. I didn't know exactly how doping worked at that time, but I remember thinking, what in the world did this guy take? Did I love watching Panatani? Heck yeah! But he died as a direct consequence of drugs overuse. He still shows as the 1998 TDF winner. Ulrich as the 1997 winner. Lance punishment came as a result of his asshole personality (I loved him as an athlete but couldn't be his friend) and all the shit he did to others. So doped guys, we're doped guys competing against each other. We didn't know about it, and we enjoyed it.
What makes it even more ass is almost everybody is in it. Teams,doctors, managers,consultants ect😭
Like Bill Burr said. My roid up rider vs your roid up rider 😂
Is not only doping your body take secondary effects of these drugs maybe some cancer or something like that
Thanks for this dope content!
I see what you did there... 😏👏
good thing the top 20 were all doing it to remain on equal ground!!!!
@@cjschmitt4882 Armstrong also had a motor in his bike.
@@rexmundi273 LOL
Is ja so
Lance Armstrong was so doped up & so determined during this stage that he ended up chasing the motorbikes.
Look, they were ALL doped 😅
So true...do you know so many tears later it has been proven the over 90...nine out of 10 used some sort of banned drug?...not defending lance...but you have never been there..all the bikes pass the cars...stop bashing if you dont know the whole truth.
The Doctors flipped and most importantly.....the team...any idea why?...learn.
But he still couldn't beat Chuck Norris.
@@anthonyromagnole2807 Chuck Norris blood is EPO
“So our roided up guy beat your roided up guy.” Bill Burr on Conan
And all the other roided up guys.
The German Rider in Teal Green ( Jan Ullrich ) waited for Lance Armstrong to catch up after his fall because Lance Armstrong did the same once to wait for Jan Ullrich when he fell down in one other race >>> That's the Mark of a Fair & True Champion! 🌷🌿🌍💖🇺🇸🇩🇪
Actually, Det Kaiser waited first. It happened in the same tour.
Actually, he was just tired
Unspoken rules of the peloton, do not attack after a crash.
A true, doped-up champion...
common racing etiquette
It was so good of Jan Ulrich to wait for him. Cost him then stage possibly, but it showed good character.
He did it because Lance waited for him when he had the bad wreck the year before. Excellent sportsmanship!
@@jonathanshaw3755 at this time, lance had a lead of 8 minutes.
Tyler Hamilton slowed ulrich down.
It would have cost him more if he didn't. Lance would have gone on a mission to break him and, as usual, succeeded.
They all were doping, but lance trained harder than everyone. I respect Lance because he always won in the mountains, and never quit!
Doping or not, all these riders were on another level either way. Nobody can deny the tremendous amount of training and work they all put in for years.
And everyone seems to deny that it was actually an "even playing field"
yeah except LA was MOTOR doping, dammit, I went to France to see him win in 2001, now I hate him with a passion
@@SheepDog1974 It could never be an even playing field, because people react differently to PEDs, they can take different PEDs, and none of it is regulated.
“Or not”.
I agree. They were all doping and Armstrong was the clear champion. I live cycling but the doping has not and never will change. What they do is superhuman
Out of the saddle doing 500w+ for 10+ minutes. EPO is a hell of a drug
You know how fucking thick my blood is mate?
he was the best in a dirty sport
New evidence show that EPO doesnt actually work😂
Everybody in GC was doping
Doping should be legalised
When I was a sponsored skateboarder 25 years ago, we were all doping. Funny thing though, it didn’t really improve any of our performances.
Skateboarders use PEDs????
For what?
@@stevencoardvenice I'm thinking he is talking about a different type of dope haha
@@stevencoardvenicell top athletes dope. Even from just a recovery and injury prevention standpoint.
skateboarding is a technical sport
It amazes me that rides never wore helmets back then
When I was a kid we never wore helmets on our bikes or skiing or mini-biking or skateboarding. At the time Evel Knievel was doing crazy jumps and we would all be making ramps and doing jumps over all kinds of crazy stuff, no helmets. We didn't wear seatbelts in the car either. We would ride 6 kids in the way-back of the Ford Gran Torino Wagon unrestrained with the tailgate window wide open. And it's not like nothing bad ever happened. I am not making any of this up. The 60's and 70's were hardcore. You either survived or you died. I knew a few who died.
I can say as kid here in Australia many years ago riding a bike you couldn’t wear a helmet because there wasn’t any in those days , never seen a helmet really until they made it law here to wear one otherwise no one used them.
@@sevenrats At the same time thats pretty stupid.
Tyler Eaton ... that’s how life was back then , there wasn’t the rules we all have today, life was way more relaxed, now we can’t fart with out a permit. No permit you get find lol yes a bit over the top but that’s how it’s getting these days.
They had to wear them, except for climbing stages.
Looking back, like that time in cycling or not, it was some exciting racing.
just because Lance was a legend for bringing the soul into the sport.
Without Ullrich, Armstrong had an easier Time😬
@@seife41 They deffiantly keep each other pushing it, for sure..
And just shows the exact moment where he turns on the hidden motor switch under the saddle
No it was not. It was always the same thing. He would always win, whatever happened. In the mountains, he would let everybody standing on their pedals like salt statues, while he remained seated on his bike, rushing like he was riding harley davidson. The cheating was obvious to anybody knowing the sport, obvious to anyone knowing the tour. The UCI and the tour would shut up because he was bringing usa fans. But he was not even subtle, his cheating was vulgar, and he was a bully to anyone standing up to him, including the great Greg Lemond. A true champion who had us cheering for him in the late eighties, earning everybody's respect the hard way.
A lot of people don’t realize how steep those roads are
that's the issue with television since the motorbike guys are on the same slopes. it's insane.
Not when your doped up to your eyeballs...
@@mudskipper0075 you could have an IV and an ambulance riding by you pumping blood the entire race and you’d still lose.
@@neoneherefrom5836 he also had a motor inside his bike so...
@@Sameold87 oh that’s a good one. He was also blessed by the archangel Michael too I’ve heard.
They were all doping back then. He was the best and I loved watching him. Great memories.
They still are. They are still on a crazy other level. Watch Icarus. Dope doesn't just make you win the tour. I could train my whole life , take all the dope in the world. I still would finish dead last against these guys.
NOTHING has changed in pro sport today mate. STOP being so naive! :)
@@DurianriderCyclingTips glad to see some poeple with straight brain lol. Doping has not gone anywhere..
The most exciting to watch !
I came here to verify that Pogacar is reminding me of my childhood Lance Armstrong memories.
Meaning, the fact that Lance was on the juice, showing unhuman performances....nothing but despite for him.
U gotta admit his cadence was pretty DOPE
Being out the saddle that long at for this climb is bonkers.
Dude got dropped out of the crash. Got back up, and is dropping dudes that can't hold his wheel left and right while spending 90% of the time out of the saddle. UNREAL. I remember being little and so proud of my fellow countryman!
Doping or not, remember that LA would train on Alp D huez, riding up, going back down, and doing it again.
How sad it must be to be proud of one of the greatest cheats in the history of sports recognized by himself.
It's like being proud of the one who wins playing with children.
@@pedrilopez6588 If Lance was competing against Children maybe this would be true. But the reality is, he was racing against Super Humans who most of which were doping the same as him.
@@pedrilopez6588Get over it. EVERYONE was on gear….he just had that little bit extra. Just like bodybuilding…some just do it better
@@jonhowland4985 hahahahahaah , It seems that you forget when he appeared on television crying, acknowledging that he was a cheater, you are the ones who have to overcome him and know that he had nothing of superman, they put him as superman because he came out of a serious illness and did what he did, until what we all already knew was shown, THAT HE WAS A FUCKING CHEATER.
I needed that injection of nostalgia
Und wenn sie nicht gestorben sind, dann tun sie heute noch denselben Unfug. Jeden Tag:
- nach unten treten
- nach oben buckeln.
🙄
Ich mag keine kindischen Männer. Ich bevorzuge Männer, die etwas Wesentliches in der Welt erreichen! 😃😍
Doping or not. This was a level of pure Grit and sheer determination most humans don't have in them to achieve.
@Caballo de guerra You believe he was the only one doping at the time?
As Lance has said; “with all of the top 15 doping I am still the guy who beat them all”. 5 Tours. Nuff said.
@@thomassanio8745 errr....7, not 5
Something that has always fascinated me is how they can deliver 300-400 watts of power for +-1 hour with such "thin" legs. Just imagine, you are 180cm tall and 65-70kg cyclist.
At that height and weight your legs aren't bulky and can't even be very muscular (muscle is heavier than fat) if you want to sustain that kind of power for a long time. Crazy.
it's called performance enhancing drugs.
@@rosetallon1162No, it's called being a freak of nature. That's like saying Usain Bolt wouldn't be fast without drugs lmao, and he's obviously taking drugs too btw. He still would be the best regardless. Its the same with Lance.
@@rosetallon1162 so if you'd take the same stuff you'd win the Tour as well ??
it’s technique too. they like baseball pitchers who can throw 100, are able to leverage and use muscles that amateurs cannot recruit to use.
Yes, and the riders are even leaner now. They look like prison camp survivors.
Lance made me start watch cycling. Jordan had just quit the Bulls so no more basketball for me. But following Lance was almost as exciting as watching the Bulls.
I don't understand how you can watch the same exact perpetual leg motion for hours and find it entertaining
@@Fraudkovic u play big ping pong
@@welbz2330big ping pong takes a 1000 times more skill than kicking your legs the same way all day . Not much different than unskilled labour .
@@FraudkovicIt’s a race man. You are watching a ball going back and forth for hours. You can make any sport sound stupid… Respect sports, you don’t have to love it.
@@markuspetersen5510 lol a 10 hour race is just a stupid idea . A race should be short and sweet and gripping . Not something that you turn off for 5 hours and then put it on again for 5 mins just to check the standings.
I dont care what other people say. Lance Armstrong is still my favorite Tour de France rider. That man won 7 years after each other. One of the best and there will be nobody who can beat him on that.
Doping
@@matotopic7037They all did, he was just the best with it.
They did not all took EPO you better read and eat some good informations
And he did it all with one ball
dark fans?
Damn man i was thinking seriously like where did i listen this, thanks for the comment or else i would have shazamed
I miss those days, Armstrong, Ulrich, Pantani, Contador, racing isn't the same without them.
Totally agree! Real characters.
the same with Valentino Rossi case
Yeahh of course it was more interesting to watch because they were all on drugs and nowadays are different times
Yes it is
its better without dopers yeah
Y’all really played the Dark theme song over this 🤣🤣🤣 such a fire show
ultimate sufferfest. Respect.. 99.99% of cyclists couldn't touch him with all the drugs in the world
There were no drugs left anyway after Lance had taken them all
Yes they could
@@ianm1481 You forgot your copium
Exactly correct and well put.
My hematacrit levels have gone up to 50 just watching this, time to check my blood bags and force my neighbour out for speaking out
Sprinting up hill on a broken frame, simply epic!
Yeah chainstay was shattered 😮
The power of drugs
Could be a good Weird Al remake of Huey Luis's 80's hit song set to some epic bike video footage.
@@le0nz
And no that was some awesome bike handling skilz.
@@le0nz
Last years TdF battle between Vingegaard and Pogačar was pretty epic! But I first got hooked on grand tour cycling in the Armstrong era. It was all so exciting, particularly this very race! I have since read all the books, watched all the interviews and docs, and to be honest, in my opinion, Lance IS a 7 CONSECUTIVE times TdF winner! I doubt if that will happen again in my lifetime. Love or hate the person, he was an absolute beast on the bike!
Couldn’t agree more!
Couldn't agree less. Former anti-doping director thinks he had a motor hidden in his bike. He was no legend. Just really good at cheating and bullying.
Dope or no dope, he was exciting to watch, however…I’d have maintained a lot more respect for the man if he hadn’t tried to ruin the lives of those who spoke out against him for cheating when he knew fine well he was the ringleader and those people were speaking the truth.
I agree he was a beast on bike. One doesn't simply win 7 Tours only with dopping. It takes a lot of very hard training, sacrifices, 365 days per year preparing mentally and physically for this race.
Just watched the Lance docu on iplayer. Very interesting. Basically he was told if you don't dope up you ain't winning shit. The human body without dope couldn't cope with the relentless demands of the tour. If you can't beat em then you had to join em.
Problem is he joined them then became the ringleader. Lance was a narcisstic bully and betrays everything that is good in sport.
Interesting recent comments on how doping would see cyclists finishing grand tours in better health than they do now
*THEN CANCEL THE TOUR*
It is a reality of pro cycling at that level.
I love how people always go. He was a doped. Every great cyclist is doping. Do you really ,believe Jonas and Tadej are not cheating now. Cheating is about 5 to 10 years in front of where the current testing limits are. These guys are setting records up climbs that Armstrong wish you could’ve done. Equipment is part of it .The reality of every great cyclist cheats Part of it, is they are naturally talented more then their competitors. The doping helps that much more. Armstrong was the best of the dopers at the time. So was Eddie. I still at admire these guys cause it’s something I could only dream of doing. I’ll still watch the sport. I’ll still watch the old videos and give a salute. Because it was still remarkable at the time, regardless of dope or not.
Drugs makes miricales
Best teams ever, US Postal, Discovery Channel, Astana, Quick Step and LiquiGas!
No one in the pro peloton today rides with that kind of fire, vigor and determination. What he was on doesn't change that fact.
Edit… ok, MvP rode like an absolute beast today, under similar circumstance of falling. Kudos to him.
Pogacar is similar aswell.
And thx to you Durian for curating this footage.
Jan Ullrich ist der beste deutscher radfahrer aller zeit. 🇩🇪
Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
imagine how much doping was necessery for that
When is Armstrong?
oh wow a ✅ !!!
And we can see now the moment in which he turns on the under the saddle switch of the hidden motor.
Hidden motor in 2003??? Come on! He was using other stuff. Idon't think a hidden motor was ever used to cheat in cycling. It's way too risky.
@@viktorgombos4975 He was using all the stuff, electric motor included. It was just uncovered, just do a quick search.
@@AndresDuarte00 "Just do a quick search" is what people who can't back up their claim resort to.
@@desertrainfrog1691 TRUTH. This Duartes character should provide links from credible sources by himself
@@viktorgombos4975Motors have been used in the biggest races according to Tyler Hamilton. That’s what he believes and I believe him.
They were ALL doping, so it was an even field, and his margins of victory were from :59 to 5:35…
His prep couldn’t be matched. He saw lesser riders winning because they doped, so he decided to even the odds. His personality issues are another story… those were the days.
No they were not !! It’s crazy how you guys can talk with no knowledge of the subject
Wow
So confident too
Ulrich is a real knight
Watching this performance really enhanced my motivation
he is so strong even the bike cant handle the power
Cheater
Those bikes are tiny.
This version of Lance would have crush Froome over 3 weeks. Hard as fucking nails.
03 Lance was “relatively” weaker than his other years it would be close 00/01/04/05 Lance would absolutely pulverise Froome though
it was one of the most EPIC dopeing moments in Cycling History
Be serious; so many of them were "doping" back then. Don't be naive.
@@slumdogpreacher6964 not just back then but from the very beginning if it wasn’t cocaine it was amphetamine and after it was hormones era and the testo era the EPO era and now the electric engine era
For this comment... I would give you 100x times more dope ... see if you can make "le Tour du France" , cheers...
Lance is legend. Doping or not doesn’t matter he’s a legend. Everyone was doping then. He was still better. You don’t get that good/better because you have the best dope. Everyone had the same shit…
Great you took the "Dark" Theme for the background 👍
good video but you should have posted the year and stage it was from
Колкото и да го оплюват бил е невероятен.Взимал е всякаква химия но и другите са взимали.Просто е бил много добър.И днес не е по различно колоезденето.
I never quite understood what happened for official overall winners, years after the fact, when they crossed Lance Armstong out all those times. Was it just no winner at all or did they pick the next guy down who didn't technically test positive for EPO or whatever else?
He wouldn’t won all that if he also wasn’t so good
they were all doped to the gills and he still dominated.
@@samj1185 with only one ball, whereas all the other riders had 2
e-bike motor activation at 0:13, when he touches underneath his bike saddle?
I’m still a big fan, amazing sport moment of my childhood. But still trying to process the magic.
You really think it is possible to run an ebike logistics for 21 stages in the TDF? No way man.
@@DurianriderCyclingTips I think it’s now proven that certain teams have used technical doping incl. small electric motors in bike frames ou wheels.
After lance the tour became kind of boring...
Contador era was the shittiest
Bullshit
Armstrong was biggest doper und most unsimpatic cycler in History!
It was decent before Lance , watched it the yr Ulrich win. It's no even on TV anymore
Best times ever! All were doped.The tour hasn't been the same since.
LOL!
Modern cycling times are faster what are you talking about lol
They are all still doping
How do you know that ?
@@-First-Last because they keep getting faster
Has anyone ever calculated what his watts/kg were while catching up?
It’s like watching Pogacar 😂
EPO is a hell of a drug
Everyone trained their ass off , everyone was on steroids he just had better genetics. Deal with it already!
Spot on. Why do you think they never passed on the victories during the Lance era to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th? Because a)they were all doped and b)no frenchie in the top 10. When Armstrongs confession came out, the french tele invited for-crying-out-loud Richard bloody Virenque !!!
@@kurtdezutter8047 It is actually shocking to know that a lot of people out there thought he was not on juice.
@@Psychedelic430 isn't ignorance a joyfull bliss ? Sure, those were the cycling days. But if you really, truly, and sincerely believe those blokes got up to Tourmalet faster than Merckx, Indurain or even Bahamontes could descend it...well, 'bout time to wake up and smell the coffee instead of smoking it. Holy crap, I remember footage of Pantini having to BRAKE when going up Plat D Adet or the Aubisque !!!!
People commenting on Lance doping as if there is a single rider from then until now that doesn't dope. Riders today are faster than ever, and you think that they somehow just magically improved over riders who were juiced to the gills? Grow up.
Lance is just the greatest cyclist to get caught doping. No unenhanced human has competed in the TDF in decades.
Pogačar performance brings me back memories.
He cant do that, he is not in drugs
You dont know
I remember Ulrich ... This guy was young and amazing..
This shit of doped Armstrong killed what should had to be a legend ..
Ulrich as also juiced bro. ALL champions in ALL sports are juicing!
Seeing this was dope!
ALL PRO ATHLETES DOPE!!! Only way you can keep up 😮
the man who will be remembered as the biggest fraud in the history of cycling
@kub73158 everyone in every strength or endurance sport on pro level is on steroids. Period.
Is it ok for the aide vehicle to supply a blood IV from vehicle?
Lances ferocious mentality is what won him 7 straight tours, dude was an absolute animal after sitting on deaths door. It’s a real shame all his tours got revoked, every tour winner doped for many decades. Lance was the best of them all!
They were all cheating and he was still faster! Despite the doping you still have to turn the pedals.
This is what a cyclist drugged up to the eyeballs on EPO looks like! They don't ride up mountains like that now 😂😂
this was one cycling was all or nothing. this was when people were willin to die to be the best.
Dean Milisic negative. They just set a climbing record in the tour. Most records are recent too.
it's a fact that being "doped" is more healthy for your body than not being doped if you wanna ride the TdF. the race is so gruesome, people burn 3KG+ off their muscles from start to finish. Feel free to ride a single 200km stage with a 45km/h. you can maybe do that in the peloton, but you won't come up the mountains anymore. neither would you produce 10W/KG after those 200km.
kudos on you
@@DanielC__ aero and gear. fact.
"If you aren't trying to break the crank off the frame you're not going hard enough"
I watch this video every now and then just to remind myself that you’re invincible if you put your mind into anything.
"into anything" You're right.
anavar give up
Haters gonna hate..Lance your still a Champ!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@ramirogebara8766
Suuuuure, in doping.
@@-First-Last everyone is using some type of advantage in every sport. Lance just got caught..He's still the man!!😁
Its like watching Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire hitting homeruns at the Home Run derby 😅
What an absolute freak. Love these videos.
A lot of standing on the climb. I wonder how much is due to those small cassettes they rode back then?
How did he do that without internal cables?
Must be cgi. Now you need a creaking bb to win.
How did these guys ever manage to ride without disc brakes..
I grew up riding as a kid in the 80's and 90's without any brakes. But of course not like these guys.
All I see is a dude falling behind and not catching up
lol
That's what I was thinking!
I taped that entire tour on vhs...still have it in my cupboard. Even as an Ullrich fan that was one of my favourite tours of all time.
The dope in the max power
I can only imagine the times, wattage averages this guys would put out on nowadays equipment, not only the bikes, but the powermeters, nutricion, groupsets and wheels & tires
that pedal slip, the sport has gone miles better in the last 15 years just in equipmentt
Nah bro the 2022 TDF bikes are junk. Just ask any pro after a few beers.
@@DurianriderCyclingTips my man rim brakes are dead, just move the f on
All took and still take and will always have to take stuff. Armstrong deserves all 7 Tour wins- and I am no Armstrong fan because he never did the entire season like Merckx and all the others. He won the Tours fair and square- no advantage of possibilities over the others. He was a perfectionist at what he did. They pay the price with their health anyway- mainly cancer- Anquetil dead at 57, Fignon at 50, etc. Even LeMond's muscle mass at the beginning looked steriody as well- kidney loss from what?
In terms of doping, Lance Armstrong was years ahead of the other competitors, Of course everyone was using EPO at the time, but Armstrong wasn't only on EPO, He went further using steroids, blood transfusions, he use testosterone to aid recovery between races, Lance Armstrong’s operation was the most systematic doping scheme in sport history
All the other competitors used everything and more that you just mentioned too. Even in my amateur days in South Africa we were experimenting with testo, Anapolon, etc for power gain at a very low level. Ivan Basso had testicular cancer for example , one big possible side effect of testo usage. Lance deserves the wins. They should legalise it- would be healthier (no masking agents, which also have side effects) and proper medical control at any given time. Allso the discussions would be more honest in the public eye. You wanna be successful at Wall Street with an attitude of Jesus or Ghandi- it will not work. 😉
@@christianloher150 anapolon that’s oxy / anadrol 50 that’s some serious shit power lifters use it why would a cyclist use that it’s to hard on the body gain weight like a motherfuk blood pressure and the rest ? Yes I can see why there use test to aid recovery but oxy ?
He was a cheat.
From the pallets that are still in his body courtesy of a shotgun blast at nearly killed him the year after he won his first tour
0:08 ı was watching this scene live back in the day as a lancer and i know what are coming next what a faboulous tour was that
That is the thing that we can’t remove from Lance. We can remove his titles, sponsors and records be we will never remove his pure will to win and push his mind through pain to the limit.
Doping was only a part,they all where juiced,he was an amazing athlete
What pedal system is using there ? Speed play doesn’t seem to keep him locked in.
I believe that he was using Shimano then, sort of a Look clone.
That was unfair from Armstrong i find. Jan was waiting of him and was slow
which col?
Doping or not, still the greatest of all time
I'm glad he wore gloves!
what pushes the second 12?
His determination beats his doping, good old days when I was glued watching the 5 hours race
I mean how people were blind not to feel that he was cheating. Look at this performance. He was like from another planet.
But the others on the same drug protocol bro. How is it cheating?
@@DurianriderCyclingTips How can you know the the other riders has the same drugs? And how can you know taht they use it in the same time as lance?
People weren't blind; they just didn't say anything because of the negative repercussions, i.e. loss of jobs.
Everyone was cheating back then. He was just the best out of all of them.
In that moment - this decision to attack - he won the tour 2003 🔥
Win with cheat :)
I reckon this was the only time when I saw LA crashing his bike. They were crashing a lot less back in the days.
Dope or not, the dude put in some amazing performances, most of those guys use the same , he was scapegoated.
wdym dope or not lmao, his performances was good because of the dope and the reason he was better than the other guys was because he had the best doctor at that time to tell him exactly when and how to use the drugs he provided.
@@bxnny6657 As if the other riders weren’t doing the exact same thing 💀💀💀
@@samsharkey2571 i know, but there is different ways of taking the supplements and some techniques deliver better results.
@@bxnny6657 So the other riders who were dropping were victims. You must be a liberal.
@@bobmiller4343 Read the comment again dipshit "dope or not, the dude put in some amazing efforts, most of those guys use the same" bla bla bla. He was cheating, so was the others he was just better at cheating cause of dr ferrari so he won. The early 2000s is literally known as the dark years of cycling.
Must take a lot of hubris to think your memorable photo is enough of a reason to physically narrow the track.
This was so dope
they still are bro hate to break it to ya
Epic?? He is the greatest cheater ever alive!! And here, even more shameful he started, to attack after the yellow jersey fell due to a dumb supporter along the road ….. that is just not done ……. The guy has ‘bastard’ written all over his forehead!
Pro cycling courtesy protocol. If your in a breakawy lead and a fellow rider goes down your slow and allow them to catch up. Jan Ullrich did not give Lance that courtesy and he paid for it in the end. You van see the determination and anger in Lance's eyes. He was not going to lose.
according to Tyler Hamilton's book, Jan Ulrich slowed down a bit but not a lot as didn't quite know what was going on; Hamilton told him to slow down (which Ulrich did) then Armstrong bridged back and then took off and rest is history; despite by that time not being on the same teams and competing Armstrong messaged Hamilton's wife to thank him for taking that step that night - if I remember this was the year Hamilton had a broken shoulder but still got 4th and had the huge breakaway a couple of days after this
Simply untrue, Jan slowed down a lot!
Heart of a warrior, a true champion.
Sorry , it's Jan Ullrich , not Jan Müeller! 🙏🌷🌿🌍💖🇺🇸🇩🇪
Epic video, he was truly a beast . Did whatever was required, enough said.
Yeah, he cheated.
They all cheated. Every single one of them were doped up, Armstrong just had some different level dope combined with insane genetics. Yes he was a cheat but he was the best of a whole bunch of cheats.
Yes he did what was required for those years. He was not the only one.
That was a dope video!
Time to get some new content DR
as a Ulrich fan I was so disappointed on this day but also sure that Armstrong was doped
99.999% of us with drugs would still get crushed by Lance Armstrong without.
Bingo