so i watched invincible... *what the @#^$^@*
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Some people watched the show where a man killed his friends/co workers, married his wife under false pretenses, killed random civilians, and almost beat his son to death and said nah the 17 year old Black girl is the real villain!
It's the blatant mysgnoir for me. DISGRACEFUL
Lmaooo it's sick
the fact that you didn’t even name all of the stuff that man did is even more telling of where people’s minds were
It’s honestly laughable at this point
This. I don’t like the way Amber’s character presented in the show. It’s interesting to me that they took a white character who was essential Mark’s hype man and turned her into a black character who was highly reactive. It makes me question the creators motives. Despite that, people saying Amber is a villain because she simply broke up with Mark is extremely telling. She’s not a perfect character but neither is Mark. Their behavior is very realistic for teenagers, especially given the situation
Sidenote: Steve Yuen's voice is kinda made for voice-acting
Yup yup yup!!!! He killed this sh!t!!! And so did Sandra Oh! I'm so excited for seasons 2 &3
YES! I heard him in Tuca and Bertie where he plays a funny, but loving role.
Yeah he also did Wan in The Legend of Korra, so I knew I recognized him from somewhere! Plus obviously the asshole alien dad is Tenzin. I know J.K. Simmons is a legend lol
He’s older but his voice is just really suited for a younger voice it’s crazy
hes the love of my life dude i've loved since the walking dead
Wait, people still think Omni-Man is redeemable? He killed a train full of people using his son's face as a battering ram.
A TRAIN FULL OF PEOPLE. WITH HIS SON'S FACE.
People stanning the super powered alien version of a nineteenth century imperialist is kinda scary.
People do this with every single male villain not even surprised
yeah we not just gonna like... breeze past that 😒 then he almost beat his son to death, who wouldn't even fight him back.
it was honestly scary seeing so many people defend a domestic abuser who has shown no remorse & is still out of control. like I know a lot of us have daddy issues but I didn't think we would go straight to defending, explaining, & trying to redeem that man in 5 minutes! 😭
some people have Omni Man tendencies & it's wild 😳
Yeah probably because he was eventually redeemed in the comics
I hope he doesn't become redeemed, but I do hope that we see the Viltrumite side of things and actually get a good perspective of Omni-Man's childhood so we can at least have some really fucked way of sympathy for him, or at least understand his actions. Kinda like Azula from ATLA, she shouldn't be redeemed in my eyes, cuz not everyone can become evil, but everyone understands why she acts the way she does.
hmmm the dark skin black girl being painted as the bad guy over an intergalactic WAR CRIMINAL??? they don't even realise but I see exactly who they are🥴
Yeah u could literally see the Twitter dude-bros whining about Amber from the very first episode. I want Amber to get all kinds of screen time next season just out of spite.
They hate her a lil too much...
also i've seen a LOT of people projecting their toxic relationships onto this 17 year old. 😭
Maybe because it's more relatable to be mad at a dense girlfriend rather than an intergalactic war criminal
@Skyler Keck we’re talking in regards to Twitter hun🥴
My god imagine thinking someone is a villian for wanting to set basic boundaries. But the war criminal gets all the sympathy. Chile-
People hating Amber more than they hate the *main villain* of the show is proof that people give male characters a lot more grace than they give female characters :/
Exactly. It's the same with wanda vs Loki. Wanda was traumatized and safely captured a small town which is still wrong but Loki was preparing for WORLD DOMINATION and GENOCIDE but it's all "he's so hot" "omg he's so funny"- the double standards are unbelievable.
This is the one ☝🏼
@@elletheesocialist it was honestly so disturbing to see the lengths people will go to to defend attractive men, mediocre men to be more specific. Like: get.better.idols. defending genocidal colonisers isnt a cute look. Just say your racist and go.
@@lesbiangoddess290 not safely captured 😭 she enslaved people. I like Loki cause he’s a villain and we accept it, Wanda is also a villain and they try to paint what she did as just a mistake
@@lesbiangoddess290 literally! People are really telling on themselves and their daddy issues, by saying Omni-Man isn’t a villain
They treat Amber just like they treat Katara when a brown skin/ black woman rightfully reacts to the situation around her she’s the villain.
I have strong opinions about the Avatar fandoms treatment of Katara. This is not the time or place for my rant, but the gist of it is:
maybe everyone should think really hard about why you're all taking a WOC's very reasonable responses to all the harm done to her, by the prince of the nation that committed genocide against her people, so personally.
Who are these people? This is a Katara and Amber stan account. Bye, all these people who hate two of my favorite characters deserve therapy. If Aang wasn't the avatar it would be Katara she is the strongest character( after Aang) bloodbending anyone and Amber is the human character the soul and normalcy in this crazy animation word and the only one with a brain lets be clear she figures out his secret. Stop hating whoever these people need some therapy.
@@Psychwriteify fr. Like yall love the genocidal prince zuko for reasons I cant explain but will scream at katara for grieving. WTAF is wrong with you.
I love Katara but I dislike Amber
Wait?? Maybe I was too young, but people gave katara shit too????
For someone to be named Invincible, he got his ass whopped in almost every episode
is clearly purposely done lol bc that’s the whole point of the irony some people still not getting that is beyond me
LMFAOOO rightttt
That’s the point of being invincible 😂
i feel like he's more mentally invincible than anything else bc if my dad did even a quarter of the shit omni-man did i would have stayed mute in a dark room for 10 years
I mean being invincible does not mean that you will not get your ass beat you just you are invincible not that you are good at fighting
when omni man saw his son LOSING THAT FIGHT and not doing anything... i knew that man was a menace to society 😐
hes literally the most toxic person ever
Right cause he could’ve set the entire thing straight
lmaoo i knew that man wasn't right from jump bc he was always saying slick and nASTY shit 😭😭
@@donnamoydenton6156 It wasn't the wholesale slaughter of the Guardians of the Globe that tipped you off???
@@davidtucker9498 he was saying and doing slick shit even before that. i always found his behavior odd
Asking people “what were your thoughts on amber” is gonna be my new secret “are they racist” test
This is weird
A word
@@fashionovawigs why because it's TRUE?
@@lesbiangoddess290 she was annoying, mark saved her ass at the college and she basically called him a lil bitch for running away even though she knew he was invincible at the time.
@@fashionovawigs because he was lying to her??? if he wants to keep his identity secret that’s fine but he has no right to assume that amber should just blindly follow and trust him.
All Amber did was mind her own business. Omni Man tried to commit genocide. One of these is the villain and it wasn't the teenage girl.
he actually genocided the entire alien race in one episode so
And yet somehow people actually dislike Amber more than a literal war criminal??
Who is hated more, Emperor Palpatine, or Jar Jar Binks?
nobody thinks amber is a villain, just annoying
@@bohlbaag3929 no people on twitter have been villanizing her.
The fact some people genuinely hate Amber MORE than Omniman despite watching the season finale like...🧍🏿♂️did we watch the same show???
@hunncho22 but we’re talking about the *show* not the comics so calm down homie
@hunncho22 y’all are so brain dead cuz didn’t Amanda at the start of the video say that she wasn’t talking about the comics and only about the show?
@hunncho22 for genocide on a higher level than hitler sorry they can keep the redemption ark…
@hunncho22 nothing could redeem a child abuser and a psychopath who just murdered thousands of people
@hunncho22 why do you guys love dishing out redemption arcs to irredeemable people.?
I didn't trust Omni man the minute he asked that nurse for his costume back. It was just the way he talked to her
yes!!! i was like damn calm down. and when he called Red Rush's gf a drunk to Debbie i was like 🧍♂️
@@donnamoydenton6156 he was tripping the whole time
I mean, I personally thought the cold blooded murder of 7 superheroes in the very first episode was way more indicative that he shouldn't be trusted lol
@@darko1295 obviously but the characters didn't know that
@@gabriellethompson501 I was poking fun at you saying you didn't trust him after his interaction with that nurse - you just phrased it funny lol, like you only realized he was a bad guy after that. I was just goofin
i was so confused when i first watched the show because i had seen the viral villian tweets and i assumed it was just people being racist, but when i actually saw how like completely normal amber was i was shocked. like she wasnt demanding or angry or anything she reminded me of most superhero girlfriends dealing with their significant other having responsibilities. it was literally a plot point between peter and mary jane in one of the early spider-man movies but looking at twitter you wouldve thought she killed someone
SAME. I thought she acted like a normal teenager! I don't see how she was a bad character at all.
The tweets are racist. There's no denying that.
@@sseraphim2818 Nope. Here's an actual explanation for why everyone hates Amber. ua-cam.com/video/b6SQv88MaTA/v-deo.html
@JungHoseok Slays yeah, same here sis. she's obviously not the main villain, but they didn't exactly portray her as being a very patient person. there are racists, and then there are people who actually kinda thought about it lol. why is everyone so black and white about this?? (no pun intended :'o)
The fact that people were actually pushing their lips to say that Amber was the MAIN villain of the show, when Omni man legit killed hundreds of people in that last episode in less than five minutes in front of Mark and didn’t give one FUCK.
It's interesting isn't it?
He killed at least a thousand which is even more fucked😞
I guarantee most of the people complaining about Amber are on Twitter, everyone else seems indifferent to her or likes her.
@@aamirberkley8562 he killed waaaayyyy more than that if you count the entire alien races he wiped out
Show me evidence that anyone was making her out to be the main villain of the show
nah when omniman called debbie A PET
This show was so good. Still, I really need the writers to get it together with Amber.
She’s started out as such a cool character, but they need to do better than just having the black girl just be Mark’s girlfriend. She deserves better, especially considering Mark is probably just gonna go for Eve.
Also, Omni-Man is literally the worst dad since Ozai. What a horrible parent. I hate and love him at the same time.
I think the problem is that the character she’s based off in the comics is extremely boring and has no personality or agency at all (she’s white in the comics) and they made her Black to have diversity, but now they don’t know how to handle her character. And I absolutely love that she’s Black in the show but they have to realize that her character holds so much more weight now because she’s representing a marginalized group of people and they need to do better!
YES my one problem with Amber is that she was boring??? they rlly said she works at the soup kitchen and that's it like pls flesh her out hello??? her whole character otherwise is revolved around mark pls give my girl justice
@@Saphiera270 She was more dry in the comics. Also loved her low-key friendship with Eve and hope that continues.
The writers did great in the comics she was white bland nothing and they made her soo much more.
@@survivorswapped7637 Why does she "hold more weight" because she's black? Can't a character be a character instead of being judged by the color of her skin? Isn't that what we fought AGAINST in the Civil Rights movement? To be judged by the content of our CHARACTER?
The writers DO need to do better with Amber. Because her CHARACTER deserves better writing, not because they used brown ink instead of pink...
I thought something was off from the start because of how emotionless Omni man was and how when he first punched Mark in the chest he didnt show an ounce of remorse in hurting his son. He only showed disappointment that his son was hurt and upset his own dad hurt him.
Yeah then Mark APOLOGIZED for not being ready????? That’s some messed up parenting right there
what about when he murdered everyone at the start? lol
@@SantaFishes101 I think the scene they’re talking about was before that happened.
Thank you Amanda! It's like people let's not pretend that it's because Amber is a dark skin girl that everyone wants to hate on her so much. If Amber looked like Eve would we have an issue?
Yes I didn't agree with her completely in episode 7, but the fact that people are willing to wish death upon her but stan Omniman?!! She had a somewhat realistic reaction. Just because you have powers doesn't mean I have to be happy with you *constantly* disappointing me.
And the fact that people still have the gall to say Omniman loves Mark? Me and my brother's have been debating this all week they were like: *he has to show Mark whose boss.* And I was like if Dad beat you like that would you think the same way?
And him calling Debbie a *pet?* I had to pause for 10 minutes, walk away, and come back.
Overall love the show though, thank you for coming to my Ted talk
I liked amber and the hate is absolutely overblown, but I do think a big problem with her character arc is that the writers made a plothole by subverting the idea that Mark revealing he was invincible would make things okay. Why would Amber still be angry about him leaving to fight the cyborg attacking the college campus? Why wouldn't she bring it up to him and talk to him about how she can't handle him being a superhero while trying to date her? They wrote her to be unreasonable by subverting a trope for the sake of subverting a trope, rather than writing a sensical story and I think it's really unfortunate
No like the fact some people genuinely hate Amber MORE than Omniman despite watching the season finale like 🧍🏿♂️🧍🏿♂️🧍🏿♂️ did we watch the same show???
@@preston21354 Thank you for saving me from writing this!
you said nothing but the truth! Edit: Justice for Debbie!
@@preston21354 she’s not mad because he has to fight. She called him a coward because he still chose to lie to her
The finale was so sick... the train scene my GOD
I sobbed bro
i like that William kept it real with Mark, and wasn't sitting there making excuses for him. Like he was salty but Mark was out of pocket for just leaving william like that at a college they weren't familiar with? like i know he wanted amber but chile you should've just told her
Honestly, I was so mad that it took the second to last season for Mark to tell Amber he was Invincible. The secret identity trope has been played out for so long, like superheroes telling their identities to people they love should be normalized in these types of stories so they don'tcause them needless stress and heartache.
@@AkashaBadGuy yes i agree but also he didn’t know if he could trust that with her with the possibility that if they ended on bad terms she could tell people(which ik she would never do cause that’s not her character but i get why mark was being cautious)
@@josephinesinger5114 Amber would never. The possibility wouldn't have crossed her mind. (Also side note to my orignal comment cuz I thought I would be too long to put in originally, I think it would have been totally on Mark's character to tell Amber he was Invincible in like, episode 5 or 3.)
And Mark leaving William kinda resulted in William losing what could’ve been the love of his life 😬
@@AkashaBadGuy yeah i was honestly surprised he didn’t blurt it out
The people hating on amber feel like the same people who stan Elon musk
Yes
So... smart people?
@Oduntan Oduntan Technically we all originated from africa but you know... anyways what percentage? Like 20%? Or something more expected like 5%?
@@davidtucker9498 I don't understand how liking someone makes you smart, it just doesn't work the same way as, say, liking someone who's a racist; if you like a racist and know they are one but refuse to stop watching them because "you're mature and can put aside pOlItIcAl DiFfErEnCeS", you are also a racist. But if you watch someone that's an idiot in terms of 'school knowledge', that doesn't mean you're an idiot.
Why do you associate Elon, a man who came from a lot of money and tbf didnt have to do much, with intelligence? I personally associate intelligence with folks like Einstein and whatnot but you do you I guess.
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I haven't seen the amber debate on Twitter but i totally got why she was upset at Mark and also felt like their relationship was kinda forced and rushed for plot reasons.
One of the things that shook me more was that they introduced a semi-stable gay relationship and inside the same episode turned rick into a permanently brain damaged cyborg and william almost died, and then they never talk about it again....like whattt?? We cant even have a semi stable gay relationship lol
right omg when rick got captured i said “pls dont pull a bury your gays”
@@Valentine-jo7ls im still bitter that they did that to rick, he was so sweet
Honestly the fact that people deride Amber rather than the inconsistent writing with her character bothers me so much lol. Like, she’s shown as a calm and patient and a rational character, so for her to suddenly reveal she knew felt like inconsistent writing because it didn’t match up with her previous behaviour and it didn’t match with her previous actions, and so I could understand that the writing was what was weird here and not that Amber is some secret villain worthy of how the wider fan base treats her (because some of things people say about her are fucking insane). But other people have still decided to tear her apart in a way that I know they would not treat the other characters, when this is really just an issue with the writing.
This is 100% facts. They should’ve made Amber not know until he told her but still have her tell him that he shouldn’t have strung her along just like Eve told him. Her blowing up at him during the college trip makes know sense after revealing she knew. Knowing Amber it would make more sense for her to not do that but instead confront him later about it in private because what was he supposed to do reveal it in front of everyone? So yeah the writing was just bad, plus them getting back together after the Omni man fight makes it seem like it was all for nothing which is weird because she clearly set her boundaries before but hey.
Really? I don't necessarily think it was bad writing. I picked it up as a "oh, this is who she really is" kinda progression. But that being said, yeah the hate that she gets is WAY TOO MUCH. Like damn people gotta chill, if Amber were of a different skin tone it'll be a different story :)
I actually didn’t think it was bad writing to me it was pretty consistent with her character; Amber was shown to be a confident, chill no bs type of gal and she just wanted to be treated as such. I think the show was intentionally trying to subvert the whole “ride or die” clueless superhero gf trope. To me bad writing implies that she wasn’t justified with her anger which was completely reasonable imo. The girl was just hurt lol. Also idk why when a character does something that isn’t well received it has to be “bad writing.”
THISSS!! Maybe if they had hinted at Amber knowing before her big reveal to Mark I would’ve liked that moment more. But I did not hate Amber, just her writing, like she’s a really cool character
The inconsistency is an adaptation issue; in the comic, she was pissed at Mark but knew nothing about his secret identity so her anger was justified. In the show, she's still justifiably mad even though she's also aware of his secret identity. Felt like the writers didn't add anything for that change so there's a bit of dissonance. *BUT STILL* the amount of shit people have against her is still unjustifiable compared to Nolan who *used his son as a battering ram, killing hundreds of people* holy god. Mark is a good kid and has good intentions, but he deserves to be called out at the same time. And he's hot mess and needs all the therapy. Plus, they're teenaged characters, mistakes will be made
Omni-Man is legit a super-colonizer
She’s right it’s about her being black! Cause people did the same thing to Ani from 13 reasons Why. Y’all literally harassed her more than Bryce 🧐
Yep please tell me why I dont even watch this show but I kept getting videos on people hating amber
I just don’t like ani because she slept with Bryce and trusted him more than Clay
Maybe white Hollywood writers should stop writing terrible black female characters?
Omni-man gives big white supremacy vibes, especially with how he treated debbie
like calling your asian wife a “pet”
@@kawaiidemonprincess RIGHT?! LIKE WITH HOW DEBBIE AND MARK ARE ASIAN CODED AND CALLING HER A FUCKING PET??????
@ZK Yes thought I was the only one that caught that! Very racist imo
@@heheheehee7621 It's called an allegory love. If Omni Man didn't have powers he'd be a white supremacist.
The problem with that is, Omni-Man isn't wrong. Viltrumites actually ARE superior to humans in every way, physically. They are actually a different, superior, race.
I'm sure the parallel is still there, and I think it's better this way. It's an Iron Man argument that shows that even if a white supremacist was RIGHT, it doesn't make them morally superior, and it doesn't make white live matter more. All lives matter.
Amber had like 2 boundaries yet she's the literal devil to them.... tiring
Her being mad at him knowing he saved them at the school was terrible writing.
@@SaidByTy she's a teenage girl... and he took a great opportunity to reveal the truth to her and instead used it to lie in her face again. While thinking she's slow enough to believe it. It seems like realistic human emotion to me, I would feel and maybe react in much the same way.
@@puthica2060 Being reasonably upset isn’t the issue. Being upset while knowing the truth is. If I found out my boyfriend was a superhero and the reason he’s late all the time was because he’s literally saving lives, including my own, the last thing I’d be is petty about it. Her being a teenager has little to do with it cause that wouldn’t even make sense to teenage me. It’s an attempt at subverting a trope at the cost of character inconsistency.
@@SaidByTy that doesn't make him less manipulative or less of a liar tho... just like his father smh
@@puthica2060 Yeah, we’re def not gonna pretend Mark’s actions and his father’s actions are anywhere near the same level, nor will we absolve Amber of her own manipulation tactics, cause it would’ve been just as easy to straight up confront him once she found out the truth instead of pretending to not know and be mad at him for literally saving her life. But I digress.
A big part of Invincible is Mark’s naivety that we as an audience experience with him. Him thinking he can do a cool hero pose and yell “stop” will work on an alien invasion or him getting worked up will let him take on a gang of villains. Same with Amber, he thought he can solve everything by revealing the truth but just like how it’s always been, things aren’t that simple. But the last one didn’t compute for anybody...
Idk why people don’t understand nuance nowadays, like mark’s entire existence as a character is to challenge and subvert common superhero tropes; him constantly flopping and being naïve is what makes him interesting! Its what makes him hilarious! Its what makes his final confrontation with omniman heartbreaking! Duh. Mark is not perfect, that’s why we like him. But dudebros on the internet feel like mark is entitled to amber because they like to imagine they’re heroes who are also entitled to women 🤷🏽♀️
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 honestly, that's exactly it!
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Something absolutely horrid I saw was in the comment section for the clip of omniman punching a wall during a fight with his wife who he canonically sees as a pet - the comments were full of men saying shit like “you can tell he actually loves her because he could’ve hit her but he didn’t”. Can’t even begin to describe how scary it is that men would say that and take that away from the scene 💀💀💀
These type of men scare me. It's sad there is so much of them in fandoms
In their defense, maybe because they are comic readers. Omniman might be a horrible person but there are a lot far worse characters than him as the series goes by like
Dinosaurus and Robot - who are pro-genocide “for the greater good” just like Thanos.
Conquest - who is like Omni man but without courtesy.
Angstrom Levy - who is a psychopath obsessing at destroying Mark’s life.
Battle Beast - a fighter who craves violence for the sake of violence.
Anissa - a known rapist.
and Thragg - the greatest villain of the story.
None of us were ready--
Edit: "Your mother is a pet to me-"
S I R OMG DEBBIE DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER-
I could not take 5 minutes of this bullshit let alone 20 YEARS. Debbie girl your a queen
I just started the vid and all I have to say is that Amber receives unwarranted hate because she’s has standards for herself + she’s a black woman. Her backtrack to Mark in the last episode is to stay more in line with the comics but because of the rift between the two I feel like they should’ve left it at her checking to see if he was good and wanted to talk. That kissing shit was unnecessary
@ Denzel Mills
Yea that scene when amber was kissing mark was unnecessary and the writers set amber up to fail and a part of me knew that something was off about her character.
@@tiambercheathemvddzd3381 I think the problem is that the writers realized they made Amber too likeable (she had a massive upgrade from her comic version) and that people would want her to stick around longer which might make her and Mark's eventual break up like they did in the comics not be received well. So they tried to create a situation to make people like her a lot less (which worked) so that the later permanent break up could happen easier. Which is why we ended up with this weird character inconsistency that had most fans of Amber intially baffled but successfully hating her.
mark has gone through so much trauma in the matter of weeks , so i'm interested on how thats going to affect him in the future
Idk how Mark does it, like he was still going through it after everything that happened (as a teen) but somehow kinda doing fine lol. I heard that we're gonna get 2 more seasons so we'll see!
@@strudelh i don't know how he just shakes it off, he's been through so much
@@animaniac6180 Fr dude was demolished by his father and turned into a human flail used to massacre hundreds if not thousands but went on to talk about finishing high school-- my jaw was on the floor.
The comic is WILD so I’d assume future seasons would be no different.
Wait until you know Anissa
IM AN AMBER STAN BEFORE WE EVEN START. I KNOW YOURE ON MY SIDE
right. amanda always has my back when it comes on to taste
Same I love her.
Ong i don’t rlly hate her or anything ppl are so quick to hate on characters lmao
Was there NOBODY who could've handled those smaller situations for mark? hey dad, its our first hang out, can you handle this for me? Hey Eve, I'm meeting ambers mom and first impressions don't go away, can you stop this guy for me? You have a whole team, hell there's a whole PLANET of heroes on this blue marble and you choose to flake on a girl who's been ready to drop you since day one because she knew you weren't as invested as she was?? Brainless. Sorry I'm 3 days late Amber, i stopped to get you a hot pickle, why are you mad?
BUT ANYWAYS. There has to be ways to stop omni man. They said that huge tentacle monster almost beat him, War Womans gold weapon thing obviously had an impact, and the cat villain had a very similar weapon and almost killed Mark. Why is nobody looking into those things? Let's hit the BOOKS. CHOP CHOP.
Also STOP making monster girl transform for the most pointless things. Babygirl should not be reversing months of her life because she's cleaning the apartment or taking a group photo. She has a whole ass curse and y'all are literally wasting her time. Somebody give her a gun for the next fight or let her sit this one out, sis needs a break.
@@BuoyB she gets younger every time she transforms? That's so cool
@@MeganAllen1738 yeah she's cursed to become younger every time she transforms, based on how long she's in the monster form. I believe she's supposed to be in her mid 20s or something? But physically she's like 13 now
@@BuoyB poor thing
battle beast vs omni man
beast gets folded he was literally wearing him as a COAT in later issues soo i think they’re gonna need more fire power
Also a lot of grown men unloading there emotional baggage on to amber and were saying that they were in a relationship like that and it turned out toxic like an 35 adult women actions is never EVER going to be the same as a teenager so that piont is immediately invalid .
lmao they think they’re superheros in their mediocre lives
I mean, it's not invalid entirely. granted I don't know much about this shit, but just saying. being younger or older you can be wise or ignorant.
So, being emotionally manipulative is perfectly fine if you're a teenage girl... Got it...
Oh, and lived experiences are invalid if you are a man. Good to know.
@@davidtucker9498 It's always one of you that have some emotional weight towards a show or comment .
It made me fr angry at the fact that it was all black men and white women saying that amber was a stereotype when the black women were trying to tell y'all that her being black didn't mean she was automatically a stereotype for feeling an EMOTION
Its white male incels too
This man used his son as a butter knife for a subway and killed thousands of people, but fans draw the line at a black character??? They going to hell.
A line that people gloss over with Amber is that she literally says to mark that she’s not doing this type of relationship again. Mark should’ve took that in and realize that she wants to be serious and yet he continued being boo boo the fool for MONTHS. If anything Amber UNDERREACTED cause She gave Mark so much despite her set in stone boundaries. Anyone else would have blocked mark by the end of month 1 and YETTTTT.
Let’s called a spade a spade is Misogynoir. Point blank and the period
The way the show was so okay with just offing characters had me shook😭😭
there were so many scenes where if they happened in another show they would've been saved at the last minute but nope. niggas out here getting their spines ripped out and their heads beat in 😭😭
Feels like amanda purposefully posts content catered to me as my assignment is due the next day
CAUSE LIKE...
No literally cause I just binged the entire show today so I can watch this
@@NoellaFierce2 jup im doing the same
free my sister Amber like forreal... i was actually appalled because ive seen so much discourse about amber and i was waiting THE WHOLE TIME for her to switch up and be a mega villain and all this black girl did was assert her boundaries and not stand for being lied to REPEATEDLY and now shes the bad guy chun li??? explains my whole life tbh
I was literally on edge just waiting for her to be the villain and it never happened, but somehow she managed to still be the bad guy.
This is why you don't go looking for spoilers before watching something...
People hate Amber because she told Mark that she knew he was a superhero. Rewatch the episodes with Amber with the knowledge that she knows that mark is a superhero, especially the college episode. Suddenly, Amber calling out Mark for leaving her when she KNOWS he's the superhero saving people right in front of her is MASSIVE levels of emotional manipulation...
Omni-Man is the villain, the audience knows this. Amber turning out to be an emotionally manipulative mega-bitch comes out of NOWHERE, and catches people off guard. If you expect it, you lose the impact.
@@davidtucker9498 When will your little fan boy routine stop?
SPOILER:
I hollered bc I thought Robot was fixing or cloning Monster Girl as an older person bc presumably she will be be too developmentally underdeveloped or a literal BABY to even be a superhero but he said nah... I’ll just... be a teenager with her a few months? JAIL.
Amber is the most relatable character on the show. The problem really was how the writers did her so dirty in giving her the motivation of "he ran away during this incident" when the plot also had her knowing he was the person who showed up seconds later. That’s the hand of god coming into to move the plot to the end goal though, of course you’re going to let the guy who keeps showing up, fully sincerely apologizing everytime, often bringing a gift to apologize. But yeah, eve is like "I expected you to drop her much earlier due to how hard it is to date as a superhero, wtf dude." If you don’t have time in your life for a relationship, I don’t know why you would expect anyone else to accommodate that. They are in high school ffs. Also, I think this show is very good at showing the extreme end goal of some of our worst impulses and behaviors though.
Oh the trauma of that first episode ending 🙃
Omni Man is hands down one of the scariest MFs. Maybe since Homelander.
@@ambrosiaking941 Yep. And also Spider-Man!
"not that i found it funny .... but I did laugh" same 😫
Me when a joke that isnt supposed to be funny but it is
I just finished this show. I didn’t like Omni-man episode one and I really knew I didn’t like him when he called my good sis Debbie a pet. Like Mark went through so much trauma it was so sad to watch. I found myself crying the last two episodes. But this show was really good.
I hate people are mad for Amber not understanding him. He was a crappy boyfriend point blank periodddddd. He never kept up his promises and she was waiting for him to be honest and up front about him being Invincible..he was just dishonest
Eve said it best he dragged her along for 5months
yeah like he either should have been serious with her and told her the truth or just break up
Seriously, he only kept making things right and not doing the right thing in the first place
Yes. Mark was a crappy boyfriend. Amber was worse. Amber KNEW that Mark was a superhero during the robot zombie attack on the college when Mark save her and specifically his best friend. How did she react to this? By guilt tripping him for abandoning her...
Let's say it again, Amber emotionally manipulated Mark to make him feel like shit after she watched him save people's lives, including her own...
THAT is why people hate Amber.
@@davidtucker9498 thank you.
Omni-man stans literally make my blood boil. He isn't some misunderstood victim in need of a redemption arc like you think. He is a f-ing adult with the ability to discern right from wrong. He's a mass murderer and child abuser. Stop making excuses for him for gods sake.
Most guys in fandoms want grown male characters that murdered people to be redeemed and at the same time want young female characters that are not even villains to die. It happens a lot in fandoms so I'm not even surprised.
Not even adult, mans been alive for thousands of years - he deffo should/does know better than most (if not all) adults
the train scene.... bro why??? also Amber used to be white in the comics so yeah but she has more substance and character in the show compared to the comic where she was kinda basic
Where do I watch the show? Ion see it on Netflix or Hulu 🤦🏽♀️
@@marianabrooks2114 issa Amazon prime original
@@marianabrooks2114 it's on amazon
I was completely thrown off guard when Mark’s father did the....you know, to the guardians. I WAS TRAUMATIZED. The show took a step ass turn.
Gave me a nightmare.😭💀I really liked all of them and then boom
@@MeganAllen1738 ikr 😭😭 i was so gutted by green ghost's and martian man's death like damn. they were so nice and got murdered so mercilessly
@@musasaccharomyces308 Green Ghost was my fav too😭 I'm still in mourning for my queen
They established them as people, showing parts of their lives, who they are, so we could care about them. Making their death even more profound and dumbfounded
I loved Amber and her characterization in the show! She’s actually a white girl in the comics, so I was pleased to see they decided to disregard that, and make her black. They better round out her character though, so she’s not just Mark’s gf!
Also, the dumb dude bros on Twitter were only hating on her because a) r*cism and b) she respected herself, and not Mark for being dishonest with her. Men can’t stand women that respect themselves.
Edit: I’m so sorry that you and your sandwich were subjected to that last scene of episode one 😭
now that u say that i feel like amber is like a foil to debbie who put all the trust in nolan while amber wanted to be an equal in the relationship but they both eventually like wisened up if that makes sense and had to look out for themselves. like they both knew their husband/boyfriend’s secrets too so maybe that parallel was intentional
@@Valentine-jo7ls oooo this is a really interesting perception!!
You are happy that they changed a character's race, but other people are racist for criticizing her emotional manipulation of the main character...
Hmm... Are you sure YOU are not the racist?
@@Valentine-jo7ls yeah man the racism in the fanbase is crazy. Thats why people hate Amber exclusively, and have said little to nothing about characters like Black Samson or Titan
I’ve pointed that out with so many people and they still call me crazy, thank you!
tbh the part of the reason some males hate mark grayson (and by extension amber and his relationship with her) is because they can’t project their male power fantasy on him
Lol yes to everything you said about Amber. I was also very confused where people got the “angry black woman” stereotype from. She doesn’t fit the trope at all because she was reasonably upset once. If I get angry that doesn’t make me an abw bc people are multifaceted and have a range of emotions. People are out here trying to defend her but inadvertently aligning her with the stereotype, like that now means YOU interpreted her as the angry black girl 💀 also Mark only told her his identity as a last ditch effort to get her back, if the secret was that deep he could’ve just let her go like she’d been trying to. I’m glad the show made it a point that he was in the wrong by having William and Eve co-sign the mistreatment...hell even Omni-man had a better work/life balance!
The first thing I said at the end of the final episode was “Wow I’m surprised that a show actual made an irredeemable villain”. I hate that people actually like him.
I know right. I've read so many comments of people praising and idealizing him like he's a superhero 🤣🤣
People don’t know the difference between a well written character and a morally good character. Omniman was an amazing, terrifying, dynamic villian. He also deserves to have satan crush his windpipe
i was happier in my bubble where it was obvious that omni-man is irredeemable and the only black girl isn’t made out to be the villain for asking for respect. imma make sure i avoid the invincible side of social media ppl are weird
I was absolutely shocked at how brutal Omni-man was with Mark, especially in the last episode. I feel like that was never mentioned among fans when I was getting into it, especially with the crowd that was like “ya Omni-mans bad but he cares about his family!!” Like?? It took him nearly Killing Mark, brutalizing his son for hours, to feel the SLIGHTEST bit of guilt in his actions: absolutely haunting. Throw the man away
Funny thing is most of the people didn't listen to Amber leading to their hate of her character. She was mad at Mark because he didn't trust her, she straight up says it. Meanwhile people think she's mad because she wants attention and doesn't care that he's a super hero. They completely missed the point.
"My sister kept trying to end that damn relationship, but he kept being like 'no, stay with me'"
THIS IS WHAT I CAME FOR. RIGHT HERE.
OUT OF ALL SUPERHERO MOVIES … this actually shows us the damages what hero’s and villains both cause ….. I’m just glad that shit like that isn’t real cus natural disasters whoo ????? Tsunamis earthquakes tornadoes have nothing on that 😳😳🥴🥴 love the world I’m in a little more ❤️❤️❤️🔥
that's literally what natural disasters do, they rip people apart.
@@SantaFishes101 not like that saweetie 🥴 or not In my life time he’ll even those rocket were deadly in Israel but that ….. omg 😳 how can I survive 99 % of what happened in that show
invincible should’ve BEEN told amber about his powers b4 she really knew. i remember she said she was upset because he didn’t trust her
No dude, Amber literally came onto mark by blackmailing someone else I wouldn't trust her with my biggest secret right away either
@@joseuriostegui3824 right away no, but after 5 months? And five months of flaking on her, making absolutely terrible excuses that are paper thin, and promising to do better and not. The best thing for him to do would be to choose either his secret identity or his relationship, not straddle the line. And he only told her as a last ditch attempt to get her to stay, not as a genuine gesture of trust. But that’s the entire point imo, amber was another lesson on the realities of heroism for Mark. Idk why people refuse to see that and instead paint amber as some emotional abuser as if she owes mark a relationship 🙄 yall forget women are allowed to break up with yall for any damn reason she chooses
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 dude he didn’t tell his best friend that he’s known since childhood and also you forget that amber blackmailed Todd into giving mark her number I wouldn’t trust her with a big secret after that. I agree that him telling her hoping that would be enough for her to stay with him was wrong and that mark was a terrible boyfriend to her and I don’t dislike her
@@joseuriostegui3824 but if her blackmailing todd to get his number was a problem for mark, he wouldn’t have dated her. I don’t see that as a valid reason not to trust her. I understand being hesitant to just reveal your powers, but like eve said, either you’re serious about this relationship and tell her, or you’re not and you need to let her go. And like amanda said, insult to injury was the stupid ass lies he was telling amber. I understand her anger because I absolutely hate when people lie to me, ESPECIALLY when its so damn obvious that I know the truth, or the lie is so damn stupid a toddler could see through it. He was insulting her intelligence and amber aint the one. People taking this as a character attack on mark when its just a statement of facts. Mark was a bad boyfriend to amber, but he’s a kid so its understandable. Doesn’t mean amber owes him a relationship tho, and it doesn’t mean she’s a bad person for saying this aint it for me
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 I agree but I also think it’s just bad writing as well because when William figured it out he wasn’t as mad as amber. Now I get that mark was in more of a intimate relationship with amber but William was his best friend since they were kids and he didn’t react the way amber did so idk 🤷🏾♂️ I think the writers wrote themselves in a hole in that perspective.
The fact that I was considering watching this show but wasn’t sure, I will DEF be binging this on my next off day.
Same
You will NOT be disappointed
It was surprisingly good. The first episode I was literally like 👁 👄 👁
It was better than I expected, I thought it was gonna be another generic superhero show but they did incredible.
My friend told me to watch it and after episode 1 we literally screamed at each other for 10 minutes about it
Ngl I do agree with ppl when they say the writers should’ve stuck with Amber and Mark’s original storyline. In the comics she was relieved that Mark was a superhero cause she thought he was cheating on her or doing drugs. Her knowing the whole time that he was a superhero was just inconsistent writing cause none of her previous actions make any sense.
I saw how everyone described Amber on twt before watching and was ready to be mad at her, BUT BRUH SHE JUST WANTED MARK TO SPEND PROPER TIME WITH HER AND NOT GIVE LAME EXCUSES LIKE GETTING JAPANESE CHEESECAKE ACROSS TOWN
Rewatch the college episode after learning that Amber knows Mark is a superhero... This is some Grade-A emotional manipulation on her part...
Also, don't read spoilers, and get off Twitter... It rots your brain.
@@davidtucker9498 Amber was just sick of all the lies and the dishonesty.
I love Mark but why the hell was he trying to make the Amber relationship work??? She on multiple occasions said let's not do this you clearly have stuff to do but Mark tried to make it work even though he was starting to see how strenuous hero work was. Like I think he could have his cake and eat it too if he could just time manage better and didn't try to always say yes to whatever plans Amber had or say yes to whatever mission the people wanted him to do. It's okay to say no sometimes!!! But no he had to do everything that everyone wanted him to do. So he can't keep a girlfriend and his secret so now he has choices tell his secret or just dump her! Honestly I would have told Amber the secret because both Atom Eve and William could tell Mark was Invincible by looking at his face for 5 SECONDS so clearly it wasn't a very good disguise.
Then the lies he would tell were SOOOOOO BAD! How funny is it that Omni Man is such a good liar and manipulator that he came up with the whole Viltrum lie and why he was a protector yet Omni Man couldn't give a few pointers? He must know that Mark would be in some situations where he would have to lie yet didn't say hey here are some lies to use with your friends or some shit.
I HATED how amber was talked about. I heard some rumblings before I watched and then after I saw what happened, I was so confused... “If she knew about his secret, why didn’t she say something.”
If Mark didn’t want to tell, then that’s fine. But you can’t have both. Either tell her your secret or LET HER GO!
Two things can be true at once: Mark deserves grace because he's just a kid who is not acting maliciously, AND Amber has every right to be mad at him for not giving her the time and attention she deserves
That's how i feel . I just saw amber as a teenager who can be irrational sometimes ( that one scene at the college) but yeah. The hate is completely unreal
People really hate on our girl amber like she wasn’t mad he was a super hero and had to save ppl she was mad he kept it from her for so long and kept LYING to her face like she was DUMB and couldn’t TRUST her 🙄🙄
Honestly wish they left Amber as white. And the black Amber could’ve been a completely different character. Because I hate when a raceswapped character is one that wasn’t even particularly liked in the first place. They also need to emphasize Amber and Eve’s friendship because it was cute tbh
I Agree 😎
The voice Ezra Miller did for DA Sinclair was really interesting. He was the villain with like the most cartoon voice.
I think it's a great choice because DA Sinclair is clearly incredibly smart but also really arrogant, ignorant and doesn't play well with others. Kind of like a child and the voice choice highlights that for me
I agree with everything you said about Amber, she was perfectly justified she's allowed to have emotions!!!
Im starting to notice a lot of hate for Amber simply for BEING BLACK
The Invincible animation fandom put Omni-man and Mark on a pedestal 🙄 Mark is really sweet and has his heart in the right place I’ll give him that, he’s a very lovable person, but for real he treated Amber like she was an idiot incapable of handling his feelings. It annoys me They’re gonna break up. It annoys me how common black women in Tv shows are put in positions to be “love interest” to the main characters but are unknowingly “rivals” with a white main character that loves the MC, Black women are never the main love interest. Mark violated her boundaries, he lied to her and he loves Eve and The fact people use “the angry black woman” trope to describe Amber, when it’s really the just the same “replaceable black girlfriend” trope pisses me tf off about Invincible. Amber deserves more than to be recasted as black and to be replaced by Adam Eve as a love interest. I have nothing against Adam Eve, she’s one of my favs (a little bit of a pick me but so is Amber) but fr they fucked over Amber’s character all for the sake of diversity
@Nia Jarmon
I 100 percent agree on everything that you just said and I knew that something was off about amber character in the show and the worse part is that a part of me knew that it was about to happen.
Agreed!
When I realized Debbie was voiced by THE Sandra Oh, I knew we had to Stan.
Omni Man is the king of gaslighting Debbie I swear. I can't believe people online are defending him too?! Wtf?!
Can we talk about how good the voice acting was on this show? I didn't think I would like it but I'm so excited for season 2. I need all the characters left on earth to get therapy because most of them under 18 as well this is trauma. 😩
The Amber slander has been unbearable!!! Like it doesn't matter what Mark's excuse is he continued to lied to Amber over and over saying he could commit knowing full well his job could make him unable too at anytime. He could have just owned up to the fact that he's unable to commit but lied every time. Even he admitted that he was shitty but the whole fanbase is still furious at Amber.
i agree that mark maybe could have just broken up with her but amber lied to him about knowing so she isn’t any better and instead of confronting him she decided to emotionally manipulate him when he even saved her she took a really mean and petty path instead of finding a solution or breaking up with him i get that they are both just 17 but she clearly was the more mature so that’s why the fandom was dissapointed i guess nobody thought she was that type of girl bc honestly everyone was on her side the first few episodes
the way amber’s personality is the one everyone says they want but because its on a dark-skin black woman y’all hate it now
and amber isn’t even the “angry black woman” stereotype people paint her out to be. she was literally only mad when mark made her mad....
This is officially the start of my campaign to get amanda to watch castlevania
Yesss
omg im gonna watch that soon
@@Valentine-jo7ls u should its soooo good
OMG YES CASTLEVANIA IS GREAT
THANK YOU!!! That whole part with Amber I’m in complete agreement with!! I don’t trust these people at all, like they really claimed she “gaslit” Mark, they need to stop using words they don’t know the meaning of. 😐 also to say she’s worse than Omni Man? Go to bed. Anyway this makes me want to rewatch to see if I missed anything so I’ll do that. Can’t wait for season two! 😌
THIS SHOW IS A MASTERPIECEE AND THE COMIC IS EVEN BETTER OMG IM SO HAPPY I WATCHED IT
It's crazy how people slander and degrade Amber but praise and pull on the tiniest of strings as to why Omni man's actions were completely justified. When I first found out about the show, people made it seem like Amber was the worst human being in the galaxy. All that Amber wanted was to set a few standards for her and Mark's relationship. Both Eve and William even told Mark that he was stringing her along for months. Both Amber and Mark could've communicated with each better about him being Invincible, but we have to remember that their 17 years old. I wouldn't think many high school relationships would have the best communication, especially with bigger and deeper personal issues. Mark should've admitted to Amber that he is Invincible or break up with her because if he can't be there for Amber when she needs him, then Mark is not ready to be in a relationship with her.
It also kind of bothers me that some people think that Omni man did nothing wrong. People are defending his actions of all the death and destruction he has caused. I find Omni man to be irredeemable at this point in my eyes. To me, what he did is comparable to a terrorist attack. There is a fine line between what is forgiveable and what is not. I'm all for second chances, but what Omni man did is not something that should be easily forgiven. Let's not forget that he purposely used his son as a MEAT SHIELD on a train full of people to try and prove a point.
Sorry for the long rant. I just needed to get this off my chest. Nonetheless, I'm excited for season 2 and I can't wait to see the rest the story unfold.
I LOVED Invincible, I just finished it, but they really could've done better with Amber. I still like her but I rather they just kept her white (in the comic) if they were gonna do her like that, it's the way ppl hate her more than the mass murder. 🌚
And Mark is one of my favorites, he's really trying his best with his new found powers, love him. 😭
i figured out the whole omni-man twist when he said to those aliens “earth is not YOURS to conquer”
the end of episode 1 traumatized me 💀
I legit had a nightmare about it.
I sat in silence for like 5 min. I was not prepared!!!
@@a_2502 it was the opposite for me, i was yelling at my screen the entire time lmaoo
Im scared. Should I even start it?
Yes because I wasn't expecting it I thought it was a cute show about a coming of age story but then that I just..
HOW CAN ANYONE POSSIBLY HATE AMBER?? i loved her wtf
I don't have any strong feelings towards her although I kinda feel endgame should have been Mark and EVE
@@mylesfr0mn0where8 I feel like that’s what’s going to end up happening anyway.
all the nonsense thrown at amber on twitter was giving me katara flashbacks
If i knew my son could get superpowers like omniman, i would've umm i don't know maybe make him take some boxing clases??? Some judo some krav magah??????????.... you know, so hes prepared?
If my son could get the equivalent powers of an atomic bomb going through puberty I'd like him to be as prepared as posible
The train scene still fucks me up cause like bruh.... Those people was literally just chilling leaving work and what not... Ugh
I really liked Amber. There is only one scene that made my head scratch and I need the writers to explain that one. At college, she blew up at Mark for fleeing even tho she knew that he was Invincible and saved his friends. That one confused me but other than that she’s great. I don’t see why people would hate her.
Just started I CANNOT wait to hear what kind of names Amanda’s gonna call Omni-man
The same people saying that omni man is trying to do "good" for the greater good of humanity as if they'd be the ones to not be killed for being weak in the eyes of omniman's species have the same energy as the poor dude bros protecting the rich as if they were rich themselves or as if the rich even gave a shit about them
Also, justice for Amber and Debbie Grayson!!!
Honestly I like Amber I just didn’t like the fact that she knew he was invincible and was upset with him 💀 I was confused like huhhhhh I do agree Mark was stringing her on and could of called it off because they we’re together for months and he really left sis in the dark. I do think he got a good reason but still you got ole girl feeling dumb 😩 Let’s be real they only did this arc so Mark be with Eve 😐😩💀💀💀
He lied to her and she felt insulted the entire time . I get it. He didn't trust her , that's what she said
My whole thing about episode 8 and Omni-mans “philosophy”... if the people of Earth are insignificant & saving them is beneath you then why do you care? Why are you here? Go some place where people stand a chance, a real challenge
Its the entitlement lmfao so desperate for control
Yeah I don't think his bad man logic actually made sense. If there's no point to humanity because we die then why bother? Are you going to stop human beings from dying? How has not dying giving your existence any purpose?
Must be some colonizer rhetoric I'm missing
Were we watching the same show? Omni-man is there to ENSLAVE THE PLANET! He doesn't CARE about the people, the Viltrumites want Earth's resources. He's trying to convince Mark (and himself) that human life doesn't matter, so that his son will join him. He's trying to convince Mark that human life doesn't matter.
Seriously, he literally spells it out for you people in the last episode... Man, if everyone was as dumb as you people... Maybe Omni-Man had a point...
@@davidtucker9498 found the incel!
Makes you really think, doesn't it?
The way that people are hating Amber is definitely rooted in anti-blackness. The character is like 16/17 and she’s upset that her boyfriend lied to her and left her hanging. How is that not valid?
Yet they defend a genocide committing, family abuser because....? No fr why tho?
@@lesbiangoddess290 Defense and Simply finding a character engaging to watch are not the same the only "defense" of him is people stating it would be interesting to see a redemption ark because it would be a massive task or people saying this guy is fun to watch regardless of his terrible actions
@@mylesfr0mn0where8 but how could you even feasibly write a redemption arc for this? There is no redeeming this. And this is what he did to his own son and planet where he made a home. Imagine what fuckery he’s been doing for all these thousands of years
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 Well 2 ideas of the top of my head the viltrumites indoctrinated and brainwashed him , or It could have been a ruse to get the viltrumites away from earth and I am sure there are others but like I said a redemption ark would be a big task
@@mylesfr0mn0where8 yeah regardless of the why, he still did what he did. If he gets “redeemed” that means none of this season meant anything. And if an even worse villain comes along, that does not make omniman a good guy, which i know idiots will try and say
Omg robot is ridiculous. Like an actual groomer, still can't get over what he did.
Well I mean beast girl or whatever her name was is 25 and he is 30
@@notsosure5924 yeah but that whole turning himself into a child clone of rex so he could appropriately be with a woman cursed to revert into childhood is strange
I think you may have missed the part with Omniman being an alien (Viltrumite) sent to earth and the superhero thing being a facade. Like his whole purpose is to take over the earth. But yes regardless he aint shit lol
About the lack of seeing Debbie grieving, we’re most likely gonna see her go through it in season two.
I love Steven Yeun's voice acting so much
I lost it when Omni man called Debbie a pet girl 😂
Idk if it’s the right word but mark literally love bombed (not sure if that’s the correct work but it kinda fits) amber every time she tries to break up with him or he disappoints her. How she can be seen as a villain is insane