The Most Hated Invincible Character - Anissa
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2023
- The comic in the video is Invincible by Robert Kirkman
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“I likes ya and I wants ya Mark, now we can do this the easy way or the hard way. The Choice is Yours” - Anissa
"Don't make me ruin that butt, Mark! I'm warrior!"
@@jaccobmarrero6021 it should be dick not butt
"Well I don't think you and I, will be doing anything any sort of way- *I SEE YOU CHOOSING THE HARD WAY MARK* "
"She likes ya and she wants ya" - some hoe in the background
Dam shes built. Be a hard yes for me for real. We be having babies every year.
the fact that she names her son Mark is 50 shades of NASTY
Why not? lol. It makes sense for evil Anissa and good Anissa.
Woman moment
@@Sanjixoxo underrated comment
I am terribly afraid for that child. Imagine hearing that you got your name from the person your parent raped. I’d be constantly worried about being next.
@@JC_StoneGoes to show how good at parenting Debbie is cuz Mark Jr came out a decent person despite having a rapist for a mom
love that Nolan isnt even sure why eve is attacking her, and then hears her say to mark "AFTER WHAT SHE DID TO YOU??" And instantly has his hands around her neck
Nolan loves Mark. No doubt about it. Its shown through every arc after he leaves Earth.
With Nolan, he'd 1000% have killed her right then and there, 0 hesitation on his end.
@@Geese3definitely would’ve been preferred by everyone if she was killed unceremoniously. She’s a rapist, and I hate how’s she treated like she made a mistake. What she did was straight up evil.
@@ammonite0257probably bc in the comics invincible said he gets it bc rape isn’t a concept on viltrum… still wrong tho
@@ammonite0257 Afterwards, Nolan asks Mark what happened, and he tells Mark that's the way Viltrumites did things. Nolan even says that she knew for sure that she shouldn't have done that to Mark, to rape him
When she hits the animated show, It’s gonna be pretty surreal watching people defend her, simp for her, dismiss her, and call Mark lucky. I promise you there will be a decent chunk of the population saying “nice one, Mark!” The entire point of this scene is going to either go over peoples heads or get ignored because of so many factors. Where did our world fuck up so hard?
The comments on this video already have people saying stuff like that. These people have no respect for victims fictional or not it’s still a horrible subject and should be treated as such. The amount of young men in these comments calling him “lucky” or wishing to have “traded places” with him shows how parents fucked up in teaching their kids basic human decency. As soon as I was old enough my parents sat me down and told me about the concept of sexual assault and how it should be treated. The fact these kids haven’t had that talk or straight up ignored that talk baffles and disgusts me.
@@Mushess
I know, right? I didn’t even get that talk and these people disgust me
They're going to treat her better than Amber, which is crazy. There's already people comparing the two as if they're even in the same league. She's a literal rapist, this is a no brainer.
"Where did our world fuck up so hard?"
it was around 1942 if i recall correctly...
@@BratzRockAngels
Indeed
Fun fact if a woman rapes a man and gets pregnant, she can sue him and make him pay child support, and I'm not joking. Just look up Hermesmann v. Seyer is an example of that.
Yeah. Also some comments just make me want humanity to end....
Or San Luis Obsipo vs Nathan J. The "mother" was a convicted statutory assailant, but she was awarded child support from a boy who wasn't old enough to drive.
Sadly true. Rapists can also sue for custody and get awarded custody.
That's really messed up
sadly the reason it happened was because Seyer didn't complain enough about it so it was considered consensual in civil law for minors under 16.
Respect to Eve and Nolan who were ready to throw hands with her.
💯
Throw hands?
They were ready to throw her entrails across the universe
Na, Nolan wouldn't have done anything
@@DromusTHif i was nolan i would have destroyed every atom of her pitiful existence.
@@DromusTH True, even his dad said that while he try to sympathize with Mark, that's just how mating ritual goes back on Viltrum and it's hard for him to see it as wrong. Eve was ready to throw hands, Nolan maybe not so much.
I understand why they wanted to redeem her character but it's pretty hard to redeem a violent rapist just by making them go all "ive seen the error of my ways"
Agreed
how would be the best way to do so?
You have to acknowledge that when she renounces the "error of her ways", she's renouncing the culture she's known for hundreds of years.
@@seg162
That still doesn’t make up for what she put Mark through
Yet y'all see no problem with Nolan redemption.
The problem with Anissa is that her evolution is made "offscreen". After she raped Mark, years passed. Only the results are presented, not the process. So we didn't see her change, there is not enough pages to sympathise with her. She sacrificed herself to save Eve and earned her forgiveness. But she was forgiven by the characters, not the readers
Damn right
That is one of the problems of redeemed characters in many stories. The process is not shown but the results are.
Incredibly nice catch. 👍
The amount of people justifying her character shows we need more representation for male rape victims. What an unjust and stupid world we live in
For real, I feel so bad for mark that i would take his place in a heartbeat just so he wouldn’t have to experience what Anissa did to him 😖
@@Loquacious69Lol, I can’t tell if you're serious or just trolling
@@abongilezolanipeterson5588 I mean, I would do it. But that doesn’t make what happened to mark right. But yeah, if I got the chance to be raped by that chick I would absolutely take that opportunity in a heartbeat.
You can make a statement like that without implying what happened to mark wasn’t awful, it was. I’m just saying that if it happened to me, it wouldn’t be awful. I’d like it.
Probably the same type of people who think Amber Heard did nothing wrong...
@@Loquacious69same bro, what mark went through was terrible. Let me take his place 😭
Her “redemption” was forced and just badly written. She SA’d Mark and suffered no real consequences. Her redemption was that she found a husband and had kids. It’s an insult to the readers to just expect us to not only accept her, but also root for her, because she had children.
Her redemption was that she got a happy ending. THAT is why people hate Anissa.
I wouldn't say she had a "happy ending," since by then you could go on a treasure hunt for her entrails. The REAL kicker is that during her "redemption," she never faced Mark again BEFORE she got fatalitied. I hope that gets rectified in the show.
@@MiketheNerdRanger I doubt the show will go there. I am hoping it will. But I doubt it.
@@MofizurRahman0693 If they do then ohh boy twitter is going to unleash absolute CHAOS like Ragnarök levels of chaos if this get fully animated in the show, but I wonder on how they are going to approach this really because its going to happen.
I still wish that Eve or Nolan would’ve stomped her ass out at least
Actually, her story aligns with reality very well, and is very well written. Not everyone in life gets what they deserve (good or bad). Some people are incredible human beings and live a life of suffering and despair. Some people commit war crimes and live to the ripe old age of 85. The character is a product of her environment. A world where only the strong survive. The new mission of her species made her feel inadequate and in a way weak. Which is a mortal sin for her kind. We can hate what she did, and that's fine. However, all heroes are capable of atrocities, and all villians are capable of redemption. I appauld the writer for being willing to take this risk, and diving into the gray area that is the human psyche.
That really piss me off. Imagine you get raped, humilhated and desgraced, to the end the culprit be redeemed and you get the role of father/mentor of the result of that filthy act. I hope the animated series fix this, because the outcome of events after this is just a slap in the face for raped men.
Exactly. And it also isn’t talked about enough that Mark has NO OBLIGATION to being a father to Marky. Idc idc idc.
The child is another victim too that never had a say how he was brought into the world because of his mother's evil act
Just because they were raped doesnt mean they have to hate the child. A lot of people do, dont get me wrong. But people of some semblance of honor or strong character like Mark wouldnt turn down a child because of trauma. They would overcome it because its the wise thing to do
@@themoshpit8341 Mark doesn’t hate him, but he doesn’t have to take him in either.
@@AzazelCodex yeah but why should that be another thing to force on Mark. Marky may have not asked to be born but Mark didn’t ask to be raped, and he shouldn’t have to be forced to bare responsibility for a child that is the product of one of the most traumatic things that could happen to anyone.
Her "redemption" was awful. After knowing what she did to Mark, I don't know how any other reader could stand to even see her character. Mark should've gotten justice.
She got murked in space.
AKA the best thing she deserved.
I see this as an absolute win.
@@Pinkyclawsim not defending her but didn't her guilt was killing her once she had a normal life and realized how fucked up SA Mark was? I don't remember her giving 0 f in the end
Sounds like he got that justice already. She hawt.
@@benns9673well she said she didn’t regret it because she cared for Markus
@@drip2575 I think she said she didn't regret having Markus, but did regret how he was conceived. Anyway Anissa is fucked up, I just don't remembered her don't giving a fuck.
Y’all thought Amber was terrible in the show? Just imagine how much worse this chick’s gonna be. There’s toxic, then there’s viltrumite toxic 😂
nothing is going to beat amber
@@ryszakowy
Anissa is going to make Amber look like a 50's housewife.
@@ryszakowy you probably think Mark got lucky being SA'd
@@juanme555there's a chance that this is gonna age well
@@ryszakowypeople like you are so predictable
Why do we avoid the word when it comes to male victims? She raped him.
All the more reason why Amber isn't the worst
I'm pretty sure he doesn't wanna get Demonetized
The word itself demonetizes most videos.
Brother this is UA-cam, this has nothing to do with him being a male. Bro doesnt wanna get demonetized.
@@animezilla4486she is the worst if you need to bring a grapist to make her look better
I wish this was more talked about, but it isn’t just Anissa. Nolan even says that this apart of Viltrum’s culture. So that means that Viltrumites have not only inflicted genocide on several worlds and even killed each other for thousands of years, but also raped and sexually assaulted each other and other planets for thousands of years as well.
I doubt the female humans being impregnated by the male Viltrumites "doing their duty" to repopulate the species were consenting either, yeah. Could they even really consent, considering they knew any of these people could exterminate their entire species and crack the planet in half if they refused to go along with the "repopulation program"? Power difference affects ability to consent, and it's harder to get a bigger power difference than that. We see Mark get raped, how that traumatized him, and he's the victim *most* capable of defending himself in this scenario (being a half Viltrumite superhero).
This is exactly it. It's not just Anisa. Nolan himself has probably done it.
i dont really think thats as bad, what she did to mark was awful and if a vitrumite does it to any other race besides their own its also awful. but i dont think its fair to judge an entirely different species morals and ethics, same way we dont judge animals for "raping" their own kind because their simply wired differently.
@@VEGA_173 the difference is that humans and Viltrumites possess a different level of intelligence and thinking compared to animals. So that comparison and analogy is very flawed. And if that planet’s morals and ethics are based in genocide, rape, and just basic flat out forcefulness, then yes, we can judge them for it.
@@VEGA_173 The difference is that animals are much less intelligent then humans, whereas Viltrumites are not, and arguably even smarter cause of their technology. Animals can't have a concept of how pain you inflict on other people affects them cause they genetically don't need to in order to survive, not nearly to the extent of humans.
The issue with this character is that nothing really bad ended up happening with her after the assault situation. You can say her death was bad but just anything in terms of Karma nothing happened. She ended up getting married, have a son, lived pretty peacefully until Thrag returned. This just shows the social issue that Mark ended up suffering as a rape victim and time and time again it keeps popping up with Anissa as a trauma. Meanwhile Anissa just goes scot free. She never said sorry to Mark or anything to help create a closure and redemption but Nope.
My guy, I guarantee you that she, Nolan, and most of the other viltrumites have done similar or worse things. The only difference is that she does it on panel to a main character. How many people did Nolan kill in season 1, just to teach Mark a lesson and justify his actions to himself? How many lives does he just to show that he can? He's allowed redemption, but Anissa hurts a character with a name and face who we're attached to, and suddenly she's the worst viltrumite of ~50?
@@tzaphkielconficturus7136 Fr
@@tzaphkielconficturus7136 nolan gets a redemption for those killing. He apologizes to marks mom and saves the world. Anissa didn’t do shit. And it’s not even about that. You can’t compare
@@tzaphkielconficturus7136 the only viltrumite that may have raped someone is Thragg. And he was a shit bag that got thrown into the sun. No other viltrumite has done anything close to what Anissa did. You’re really here trying to argue she deserves a redemption because everyone else killed people. Which is to be expected from a militaristic authoritarian government
@@day4768 yep. The only other person who hates Nolan guts the immortal. But tbh they never liked each other to begin with.
Lack of justice for Mark is the same amount many men have in the real world.
nobody wants to hear about it
Yeah the many raped men yeah lol
Indeed.
@@jaughnekowYet, we have to constantly hear the mewling of women and their plight.
Both can be victims, both deserve to be heard.
@@TheMandaloreFett if you really believed that both can be victims and deserve to be heard you wouldn't have said " we have to constantly hear the mewling of women and their plight".
Im gonna make a bet that when this scene gets animated or not its going to cause a riot on twitter
I disagree, it’ll definitely get downplayed but narratively it’s important. And it’ll give male victims some light, cuz it does happen.
hell nah, unless its a woman they dont give a fuck, more likely they'll try to praise her rather than degrade her because they're gonna try and do anything to be even more disgusting
I don't know about the rape, but if she is given a redeeming herself arc Twitter will definitely explode
I doubt it because people think men getting raped isn't a big problem,and the way when a man gets raped people say sexual assault and when a woman gets raped people say its rape
@@HiThereHypocrites oh yeah absolubtly
The unfortunate reality of Anissa's ending is that it's realistic, too. I can see myself doing the exact same thing as Mark in his shoes. I might hate my r*pist more than anyone on this entire planet, but i would so much rather be as far away from her as possible than be forced watch my loved ones be filled with such rage and pain on my behalf.
Mark is a good person. Too good for what he had to endure.
I do hope they give Anissa some sort of consequences though, considering me and mine forced my rapist to flee from New England down to Missouri.
And I thought Gabi Braun from Attack On Titan is bad.
She must be executed by Punisher, Guts, and Sindri.
Sorry that happened to you.
@@MarvinPowell1 read bro
nolan instantly on kill mode when there was even a slight insinuation of his precious son being hurt is golden
I wonder how they’re going to approach this in the show.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed it to attempted sexual assault, considering they’ve changed so much from the comics already, and it’s sensitive as is, but I would respect them more if they went all the way.
I can't help but think if the gender roles were reversed, the backlash would be 2x worse.
I mostly agree. Where I differ is that I think BECAUSE of the gender roles being as they are in the comics, if they adapt it in the show, it's still gonna cause a major shit storm. If they were reversed it will be NOTHING like how it will likely go if they adapt it as is
backlash of a rape scene or backlash of the writers treating it as they did ?
@@nabs6784 Both.
I want this to actually get animated. No really if this gets animated this will be popping on twitter. Then on tik tok. And when people start showing women assaulting men. Women don’t have to say “men don’t get raped”
Coz it would be thats how society is , when a man commits that act everyone and they mama gonna condem them to hell and back since its the other way like 80% of society will be like "oh he should've enjoyed it tho" and thats how how things are sadly
As a male victims of female sexual assault I would be fascinated to see the show handle this. The show has historically taken concepts from the comic books and shaped them into far more cohesive poignant stories.
@@stitchedbyironhe might not share his but I’ll share mine. I was raped while I was passed out drunk on a toilet at a party one night by a girl I just met that night , and was told I was “lucky’ for having it happen when I can’t see it as anything else but terrifying someone used my body in such a way without my consent/knowledge
I’m really sorry you had to go through that. To your point, I do think the show will go a different route as it did with some parts of the comics already, but they can’t get rid of Mark’s son so something will still happen.
Heres hoping they stay true to the original source material.
Bruh how?
Fumbled a bit on Amber but I think they're back on track.
I do actually like that the show is like a second chance at making sense of the comic story with fresh eyes, and actually being dedicated in tackling that, the changes not done just cause they could or cause it would make them look good like most adaptations.
Did Invincible change artist between the earlier and later issues? The earlier art styles are very simplistic, but the later ones are super detailed
I think Ottley was the better artist.
Yeah, I like the later art style too
If I remember correctly, it had something to do with Cory Walker not being able to keep up with the deadlines so Ryan Otley was brought onto the book.
something that isn't brought up... if Anissa did this to mark, i can't imagine how often this occured with the male viltrumites. Their might makes right culture and the context of anissa's actions make it all take a significantly darker turn, even though we see them all with monogamous relationships later on.
No we don't? Kreg? Krieg? Monocle man had several individual human women who were not aware of each other until he asked them to leave the planet with him.
Basically, if a Viltrumite's chosen partner isn't on their strength level, they won't see them as an equal and will just rape them
@Hawko1313
Rape not only happens all the time in viltrumite society, but it also happens in real life amongst most mammals. It's really only bad under the context of humans because we have the intelligence to consent or suffer trauma from it. But yeah, it's still bad.
Pretty sure some people are even more mad at her than an average r*pist because some guys are actually defending her, saying that mark was "lucky" and she did him a favor.
Those same people would probably defend it even if genders were swapped.
“He looked after the kid, so the woman should be grateful.”
Some people are just looking to defend their own twisted ideas
@@averycheesypotato No? People generally treat male victims of [THAT STUFF] very differently from women.
@@averycheesypotato get a life. go outside instead of making up fantasies in ur mind. only male rape is mocked like this & taken lightly.
Yeah poor mark he got to fk an extremely hot chick boohoo 😢😢 y'all a bunch of $issys 😂
Those guys are the lowest most repulsive kind of simps who have probably never been touched by a woman and would take literally anything “as long as she’s attractive of course”
It's crazy that Mark had to forgive his grapist. What other story does that even happen in? Are there any where the roles are reversed?
Sad but Look at the bright side She got what she deserved in the end
uh he doesnt have to do jack diddly anywhen anywhere he can let that rage burn inside of him forever.
I don't think he forgave her. Rather, he moved on.
Grown men cannot be graped by women in the way mark was "graped". He had to be "hard". Idk if you guys have exp, but you cannot screw if you are not hard. And guys only get hard if they are attracted. Mark saw all that thickness and the rest is history. Bro was not graped.
@@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tk No, she didn't. She got to face no legal punishment for her crimes and instead got to live happily married with the child who was conceived from Mark's assault.
Worst part about this is that Markus who the son that Mark never had was the greatest force of good in his side of the universe(even greater than when Mark was invincible) but was hardly ever visited by Mark again while his daughter became a spoiled princess that's basically a brat that wants everything handed to her
Dont get me wrong, the writer mostly did good with the actual horrors of SA victims and I really hope they'll animate this. Especially in this day and age, people need to be reminded that men too can suffer under said SA
That said, if they gotta change something, let it atleast be Mark not defending her, aswell as Nolan and Eve kicking the shit out of her
Actually the defending part is common of abuse victims, it’s a very real phenomenon and should be addressed. But he should face more pushback of that notion from those that know what she did is wrong.
Yes! Beat her ass, Nolan and Eve!
As if we needed more of an emphasis of what a pussy "Invincible" is.
Yeah, but Mark isn’t defending her. It seems like it on the surface, but it’s crystal clear all he’s doing is trying to hide from the issue, and suppress his emotions. He feels ashamed and violated. It’s a real thing with victims, and shouldn’t be changed.
I hate how the creators treated Mark with this, they did everything you're not supposed to do with a rape victim story. Mark’s trauma was done right, but that was the only thing done right about it. You had the victim constantly protecting their rapist, lying for them, and saving Their lives, while the rapist constantly threatened to rape them again, and mocked them for being raped.
Not only that, but they rushed the hell out of the conclusion for it. They just rushed the apology, it just felt like she only did it to get Mark to see his son. They've written themselves into a corner so they gave her a questionable death so Mark could see their son. (seriously, you had Viltrumites getting the Ace treatment all the time, but Anissa gets a cut on her chest, and she's just dead.)
you okay bro?😭
@@mikebipping6166 yes, I’m just talking about how poorly the story handled such a tragic event. I do not see why you would ask if I’m okay just for talking about it.
@@mikebipping6166 and talking to you is pointless. There’s no winning in a conversation with somebody thinking it’s handled well, to have the victim protect the rapist, and having the rapist mock, and threatening to rape the victim again, and the rapist gets away with it, having the last laugh.
@@mikebipping6166 you have a serious problem man.
@@mikebipping6166why? are you going to expect him there?
I hope they animate the whole thing because the mainstream needs to talk about this topic. The grim nature of that should be shown.
💀
i want to see it too😏
You do remember that Seth Rogan is one of the main producers/writers of the show version, right? Because Seth won't do that, and it's laughable to think otherwise.
@@domesticdragonwaffle if he does then he’s doing something wrong
Riiiiiight. "the mainstream" neeeeeveeeeer talks about this topic...
I wounder : if you remove a viltrumite mustache do they lose their powers? If you bring them pictures of spiderman do you become automatically an ally of the vitrumites ?
“Goddamnit Mark, I asked for pictures of spiderman! Hey, you over there, get me some pictures and I will pulverize your bullies!”
Why the fuck do people keep trying to redeem rapist characters?
That's it, if you're a rapist then you're a rapist. There is no redemption.
I mean the show redeems literal hitler level mass genociders
Viltrumites are nazis
I'd like to remind everyone here who's a fan of Batman that this is also exactly how Damian Wayne is born. Talia was a predator
yeah however, that was actually deeply explored. Anissa could have the same ending in invincible, the problem is the lack of writing about mark BEING (dont wanna get the comment removed)
Shit this happened to Nightwing twice. And Raveger tried to do it to Tim. Batfam can not catch a break.
Dude can beat Superman but mofo can't stop himself from getting graped?
@@simosan22lmao, i mean talia is a ninja person, im sure batman can stop himself getting graped with prep time
@@simosan22 He was drugged
I think it was a missed opportunity to go this route with a character without developing them thoroughly. This was a chance to explore a really rare relationship triangle (female r*pist, male victim, their child). So many interesting directions this could have gone, especially with superhuman characters.
She was definitely hated but everyone agreed it wasn't bad writing. Anissa's aggression wasnt out of nowhere, its always been there since Viltrumites are very aggressive and dominant species.
I think the bad writing was the forced redemption arc that seemed to came out of nowhere
It was 100% bad writing
It was bad writing 100%😂
@@detective2221How?
@@nirjhar4803Why?
"It's not fair! It should've been me!" -Gandhi
So Anissa is essentially a speciest who uses men as walking semen tanks... Yet gets NO PUNISHMENT whatsoever... If i had a nickel for everytime that i had encountered someone named Anissa who is not a good person... i'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot, but its wierd that it happened twice.
I understand the story and all but I’m just a little annoyed about there being no punishment to her actions
Edit: people seem to not understand what I mean. I know she dies in the end but that’s not a direct consequence for her assaulting mark. In fact she even gets to live a happy life with the kid that came from it and got married. I simply don’t like how their was no punishment for the horrendous act she committed and gloated about.
I think she died at the hands either Robot’s or Thrax
Is what she did any worse than what Omniman did to Mark? He beat Mark within an inch of his life and used him to kill thousands of innocent people. He got a redemption arc
@@sam_Invincible She made things extremely difficult for Mark & Eve. She smirked & gloat about their “special” time together. I felt no sympathy when she died.
#RIP Bozo
@@Karlos1234ifyIt should have happened sooner. Mark, Eve or his father should have been the one to do it. F#%* her. She can rot in hell!
@@sam_Invincibleomni at least had a motivate trying to tell Mark that there's really no choice stop making it difficult THAT BITCH RP THE KID AND GLOTED ABOUT IT she deserved her death💀
A lot of people downplay it given Mark's reaction to the event, downplaying how his psychology is very much human despite being almost 100% Vultrimate. He was weakened physically and mentally and was in shock. He reacted to the event like a human does; the significance is very different for us than it is for their species. Him being raised on Earth recognized the horror of the event, for Anissa it was just another Tuesday operation.
People not familiar with this series are going to freak out when she makes her appearance in the animated series. And YES, Kirkman already stated her character is expected to be in the series, with very little to no change...within the current changes in the series so far.
they already changed too much in season 1 for me to be interested in the rest
Oh no
They changed Amber to be morally perfect... I think they're going to change Anissa too.
Honestly, I hope they make it so Nolan and Eve beat Anissa until she's begging for mercy.
@@ryszakowy I personally think the changes in season 1 made the story much better. Kirkman has improved as a writer and it shows
This is one of those if the genders were reversed stories , it'd be a different firecracker
wait how? the same thing happened to starlight, neither invincible or the boys are like marvel or dc level so i doubt gender politics is the issue here more then visibility
@@nabs6784 did any of the Boys characters get redemption arcs or comeuppance or forgiveness for what they did to Starlight ?
@@kzarkage in the show kinda in the comic no it’s more so used for shock value which you could argue is also handling it awfully. My main point being neither of these comics at the time where mainstream enough to a dialog face public outcry because people are mad about this story of Anissa just like not that many cause it’s not super popular. It was never gonna be a news story like if this was Superman or Batman or even Nightwings assault which did get outcry on socials
@@nabs6784si en los comics la mayoría de los siete murieron
SA and grape done unto female characters isn't exactly rare in comics, even stories where there's no justice or closure. But it would be hard to find an exact copy of this situation with the genders reversed. I don't think I've ever seen something like it.
I would say this is incorrect because obviously the most HATED character is Amber
I feel like the author had something planned for her then kinda forgot or changed his mind. I remember her being a dark looming cloud and the notion mark having another kid was very distracting but she just shows up and everyone moves on, it was a big let down but if I recall correctly the author wanted to be done and put a strict deadline for himself which lead to rushing several plot points.
I remember when I first read about the incident between Anissa & Mark; I vaguely mentioned it to my wife, and she was legit furious. Shut down any future notion of her ever reading the comics, or watching the series. Justifiably so, and it's going to be interesting to see how they cover this in the show if at all.
Why did she shut it down? Because she was furious Kirkman would show a female character that poorly?
@@terraneaux the fact there was sexual assault in the series.
@@terraneaux, I am also a women I’m infuriated at the prospect that this women has a happy life with no consequences
@@terraneaux, you assume women hate men but you really shouldn’t
@@Andyatl2002 I've met too many women who think sex crimes committed against women are horrible but sex crimes committed against men by women should not be taken too seriously because if a female perpetrator is punished that's bad.
One shot and she got pregnant…Mark’s sperm is invincible.
*title card*
@@How-dare-you-diss-my-cheese [insert white splatter on the title card]
They changed alot of what was in the comic. The live animation it was mark on a date wiith his girlfriend. She was also more serious than passive like the comic
Before any Frat-boy Idiots brag about how they'd let a woman like Anissa do "that " to them, Mark was not in the best mental state. Before Mark was violated, his first priority was to stop Robot when his true colors were revealed and after getting his ass dumped by Eve when he tried to warn her, he was mentally unprepared...
I'm gonna fucking pissed off if the scene where Mark got raped is animated and there are guys unironically be like:
"I'd wish that were me."
Eww, seriously, eww!
Might as well get mad now, this happens all the time with topics like this
@@Prinny. Sadly, yes. I don't understand why R@pists always get off easy.
They will. I remember being on a gaming forum years ago. Whenever a woman was assaulted, guys would get mad about it. Anytime a woman did it, even to a child, guys were happy about it. Calling him lucky/how is he a victim/wish that were me." One lesson people really need to learn in life is to listen to what people say. As in people will tell you who they are but they are just honest about it. They drop hints, use coded language.
What if i unironically wish it was me while acknowledging how horrible it was for Mark because he actually didn't want it?
It's like if Vegeta's line and lineage had a whole detailed story arc.
Hell, it would be a better story arc for him rather than obsessing over Goku.
see the thing is what she did to mark is a VERY important plot point that NEEDS to be told, in comics over the years and in all media we have only really ever had "bad man R word woman" but no one takes it seriously when it comes to the other way around, this is the first time I've seen myself in a comic.... in mark because this DOES happen.... this DOES affect your life and even though i refuse to be a victim..... i can not deny that it had an impact on my life and what mark went through is almost what i went through ...... except for mine when i went to the police i was laughed at.... even a therapist that was meant to help me did NOT take it seriously.
As much as i dislike her character..... i would never want that arc removed because it's important to show..... stuff like this happens to men as well
I'm sorry for the downer of a comment but id just prefer people didn't play this off or anything as I've seen recently some fake Feminists come to the defence of her actions.
Not to pry, but, I’m a bit worried. What do you mean by refuse to be a victim?
@@teritt I decided after being made fun of by the police and alot of people I told that I wouldn't let something like that happen again... So I've worked hard to improve myself to make sure im strong enough to stop it.... I'm not going to go make a video going "oh I'm so hurt or triggered".... What happened used to define my life in a negative way so now I'm turning it around to be more positive, I'm not going to loose sleep at night, I'm going to work hard to make sure that people know it's a issue and I'm going to work hard to improve myself.
@@jaycornu3351
You’re allowed to be hurt you know. That isn’t wrong.
What they said to you was awful. Just make sure you aren’t repressing that hurt while you’re improving yourself.
Anissa is pure evil. No rapist deserves redemption. It is vile and I'm sure the show will make her sympathetic since women can do no wrong in fiction today.
“She contended that the viltrumites are not war mongers” meanwhile the text on screen “our people are quick to turn violent it’s something we all struggle with”
She doesn't see the contradiction?
It’s so messed up, most guy would be pretty much congratulating Mark for “sleeping” with her, most cases of men being assaulted like this pretty much aren’t talked about because guys just don’t want to been seen as weak for what happened.😢
so many people even saying they want to be raped like mark, yet of course they never have actually BEEN raped or seem to even understand what it means.
I like how this transpired. It’s realistic to the real world. Justice isn’t served unfortunately, and sometimes the bad guy does get away
She went full yandere on our boi. There's no fucking way they're doing this in the show lmao
I repressed the memory of this character so hard, that after taking a few seconds to process the thumbnail, my mind and body went into overload just to remember what she did and how bad of a character she was. Time to repress the memories again...
It’s just a comic
@@alexpowers5117 I mean, I was joking (mostly, I did actually forget about her cuz i don't like her) but even so, saying that because it's a comic so people don't need to feel anything that happens in it is kind of a stupid thing for you to say.
The entire point of stories is to evoke emotion, if you don't care, that's fine, but leave yourself out of the equation if you see other people who do. Anyways, have a nice day i guess...
@@alexpowers5117 :) did you just figure that out buddy??
Like get it may be a joke but this is a lil overdramatic
@@mobiusmind5573 I mean, I guess that means jokes can't be overdramatic and funny? (I know it wasn't all that funny, but come on) I think at this point the next person to comment I'll just ignore.
Ain't no way they will adapt that scene. 100% gonna be implied rather than seen.
Uh they will show it 100% just look at how graphic the show is.
If this gets animated, there’s going to be a lot of people who used Twitter and said *she did nothing wrong* or *let me fix her* because she’s a muscular woman. We really need our eyes fixed from this moment.
Or Step on me mommy.
It’s the fact that she named her son after Mark for me. She didn’t deserve getting redeemed to be honest
Amber: Finally a worthy opponent!!!
*Show Amber😂
@Allorunder14509 was hated character is Amber of Genshin Impact
Outrider Amber reporting for duty! 🫡☺️
Amber from the show is not that bad compared to Anissa.
amber is not that bad tbh, if you look at it from her perspective mark was a bad bf
She should not have a happy ending
I legitimately wanted Anissa dead more than Thragg, Conquest or Angstrom.
The fact that she suffered no real consequences for her actions and was even redeemed is freaking *infuriating*
Agreed
Just like 99% of men who do what she did. No real consequences. Sucks, huh?
@@blacklightguidesyou You got those numbers out of your ass, right?
@@blacklightguidesyou 99% of men? Are you mentally well?
When I saw she carried a baby she called " marky " that looked exactly like invincible I lost my shit 💀💀
Sounds to me like she really needed some inbetween story. She pretty much went from rapist to "better" in like 2 appearances.
Would have been more fun if she had found a man on earth that she liked despite the fact that she could physically beat him. Could have been a good story to explore what she'd do if a human male wasn't scared of her even after figuring out what she is and how violent she could be. I know she did find that black guy, but like with everything else about her, it just sorta happened
Even though I’m very unhappy with how the comic tried so hard to redeem Anissa, I still think that a guy like Omni Man should be hated more. The comics gave him a free pass way too easily, even though dude had been committing genocide for 1000 years. Invincible is simply a story about Mark having to forgive people who committed war crimes.
@@nont18411hell, it wouldn’t surprise me if EVERY viltrumite has done something like that, Nolan included. i mean, we see one character commit r@p3 and it’s treated like the end of the world, but another character commits gen0c!de and LITERALLY ends worlds, but he gets a pass? priorities people…
To put it into prospective, imagine a foreigner migrating to a different country along with their belief and values but haven't had time integrating. Within a few hours of entering they've already infringed on acts people of that county would find unforgiviable.
@@mkv2718 The worst part is the fact that in the end of the story, people gave Nolan the credit for “turning Viltrumites good” and “saving the empire” even though those credits belong to MARK.
Man, Mark is just too peaceful. I understand he hates violence and doesn’t want to hurt, much less kill anyone, but bro??? Why hold back when an alien freak wants to commit SA? Poor Mark man, he should’ve caved her skull in when he had the chance.
Hopefully in the show, he doesn’t hold back against Anissa. Justice for Mark!
I think they should scrap that whole plot line.
I don't think he held back. It's just guilt which many rape victims go through, he thinks he held back, but he didn't actually
@@TechnoArpan Anissa is one of the lower tier Viltrumites tho, Mark (and probably even Immortal) was definitely stronger. We just know that Mark always holds back because of his good nature. He doesn’t like hurting people.
He was holding back against people who wanted to fucking murder him. I doubt he'd suddenly go Ultra Murder Mode against someone trying to rape him.
awful idea@@mynamejeff8401
She didnt deserve a heroic death and it fucking enrages me that they gave her that. Invincible shouldve tore her spine out
Got one better why not omni man rip her spine from her asshole
Agreed
@@chaossoldier2351
I would’ve liked that
Bro some people in this comment section saying lucky or it should be me need help
Women getting away with male SA? Sounds realistic to me.
Rapist in general gets away with rape bro
I would’ve loved for Nolan and Eve to know what she did to Mark just so we could see what would be left of Anissa afterwards.
Tragically she got off easy.
That still pisses me off
I think people think it’s okay for them to write this because Mark is a male. Nobody really took it seriously that she raped him. Which is a shame. It does a disservice to men who are victims of sexual assault.
Man some guys be so lonely and desperate they think Mark being hard R is a lucky thing. Pretty sure no one needs me to say this but no one deserves to go through this.
It was mentioned by Omni-Man and Anissa, that she was doing it the Viltramite way....which would have been shocking to an earthling like Mark..it doesnt justify it... But explains if...mating was based on fighting and domination, testing their strengths .... Viltramites did not have a culture with bonds and love... Thats what later changed Omni-Man and the other Viltramites ( including Anissa) as they adjusted and enjoyed earth culture...
Now how in the world will the writers make “that” scene in the show…
Oh boy that's finna be.........something
Im glad fans aren't drinking that " she was hot so it was fine" Kool aid
Unfortunately most of them are and you can tell by this comment section
I am. She's hot so it's fine.
@@user-kr7sh1up1yMost of the comment section are male feminists acting horrified in case twitter is watching.
@@JDoe-gf5oz or mabye they’re just functioning members of society who aren’t horny edge lords like you
@@JDoe-gf5ozcringe edge lord
The worst part is that Nolan wasn't demanding or constantly bossing her around to procreate. She just did it because she liked Mark and wanted to have him, despite the risk that her King Nolan, wouldn't approve that at any instance.
She took and abuse Mark as a Viltrumite would, despite she was prohibit to act in such a manner on earth and later like other raptist often do, she continously arrased Mark even in public.
Y’know since playing Spider-Man 2 and seeing the line where Anisa said “we tend to turn violent” makes me wonder how mark would behave with the symbiote, they both even have the same weaknesses
Tbh I think they did the best they could with Anissa’s fate. They would have to change key parts in the story to implement an execution or imprisonment (if imprisonment would even work). They would then have to recreate Markus and his relationship with his family.
I wished the writing of this story gave reasons why she just didn’t mate with the other Viltrumites who were full blooded Viltrumites.
They did, remember strength means everything to Viltrumites. She did say say she doesn't like he's not a full blooded Viltrumite but up to this point Mark has demonstrated great feats of strength and He's young so basically she said she'll "settle" for him.
Actually she did. She had at least 6!!!! full-blooded vultramite husbands.
and she killed all of them or the ones that survived left her because she is insane and can't handle rejection@@kingol4801
she wanted to mate with him because he is from Argall BLOOD-LINE the blood of the true kings of Viltrum. and she never takes no for as an answer. @@Icarus-Tempist
It is because he is from Argall's bloodline the True ruler of the Viltrumites so she wanted her child to become the Emperor Eventually that is never going to happen Mark is going to give his throne to Terra when he retires.
people in the comments saying that "male s/a isn't taken as seriously" and "she got a happy ending and no repercussions", but that's an unfortunate reality for ALL s/a. it's just recently (in terms of human history, not like last year) s/a for women is STARTING to be taken seriously. it still is mocked and victims aren't believed and rapists/predators aren't punished as much as the victims. the anger and disgust y'all are feeling is the reality for a lot of s/a survivors, ALL kinds, that is if they aren't ashamed and try to "protect" their perpetrators. i'm just more disgusted at the jokes in the comment sections of any anissa video over the fact that she ends up having a family. i thought it was common knowledge that a lot alleged and convicted rapists go on to start families. life goes on. that's the whole point of the comics, that's been clear w/ the death of the guardians and nolan's reveal.
It's pretty infuriating that she seemingly gets a happy ending.
Anissa getting horribly killed in the Viltrumite civil war wasn't exactly a happy ending.
Sexual assault is no joke, in comics or IRL, people saying “lucky mark” or “nice one mark” have no true idea what sexual assault can be like, I don’t either and don’t know anyone who has/who has told me, but just reading and listening to victims described it, it can destroy your life, and if you have a partner or relationship with someone it can mentally scar you and give you trust issues, this is not a joke nor should be taken as one, I find it disgusting everything she did to mark and even in the end at her death there was no justice for mark and I wish whenever marks dad omniman was strangling her that mark would’ve said something so he could’ve gotten justice for what she did, I wish anyone who has ever gone through this can find peace and overcome the traumatizing incident, honestly just disgusting how many people can just be okay with sexual assault because a “woman did it to a man” and now if they had a male character sexual assaulting a female people would be all over it and be raging and screaming at the comic creators, honestly can just be disgusting how there is no respect for anyone nowadays 😕
I was actually surprised to learn that a comic book of all mediums acknowledged that men can and have been sexually assaulted by women, either sadistically and/or raped specifically.
I wonder if they'll include that in the show or if it will be excluded due to potentially being perceived as an attack on women or feminism or something along those lines.
alternate universe where Anissa got what she deserved:
Mark tells Nolan what happened, Nolan proceeding to take any life that was left of Anissa
cause we all know good and well Nolan would have taken her life on the spot if Mark called her out
she look mad goofy
Omni Man will go brutal carnage mode if anything happens to Mark if she's touches him. He will go doom slayer mode on all of the Viltrum Empire if they try to get to him. Anissa will be most unlikely to be kill by Omni Man's Rage. Brutality is coming.
Im maybe a little too aroused to hate this character
LMFAI
when i was young man i have too experience sexual assault from a woman pretty disturbing but do forgive her tho, people dont realize and understand the trauma you'll go through with harsh experience, its even hard to date women after experiencing such traumatize effect from that level of metal pain, but for some young men its not even a problem at all but when you're a young man and don't know no better or anything of it, its very traumatizing
now i see why Anissa is the most hated character in this series especially for me that i feel for mark that it was so hard for him to deal with that trauma and have to be around his lover to indoor that pain
There wouldn't be a single person defending her if the genders were swapped. I hope in the show they either let Mark kill her or have her pubished in a really severe way.
There is no way that’s happening in the show.
@@user-hs3sr9ky5x what’s weird is that they can show people being murdered and Omniman destroying a whole apartment building and a kid dying. However, what happened to Mark is somehow inappropriate and where they draw the line. Murdering kids is also inappropriate. However, I don’t see how what happened to Mark would serve any narrative. It’s not relatable. He is a super powerful hero. No regular victims of that crime can relate to that.
@@christianrapper
People deal with death in many ways. They mourn. They grieve. They learn to live. Death is a natural part of life. Genocide is a known horrible thing, one that people are still recovering from, and even currently fighting. But even they have families, people they trust. People they love can help them. And rape also happens in genocide.
But rape. Ruins your life. Everything you do after a trauma like that is affected. Bathing becomes difficult. Your relationships becomes strained. Your sense of trust is broken across the board. And if you’re left with physical scars? Sometimes you feel like you can’t escape it.
Recovering from death, from slaughter. Is made easier through the multiple mediums, whether that be religion, family, or love. Therapy when done correctly obviously helps too.
But nothing prepares you for the damage caused by rape. Those you’ve trusted all your life, you become too scared for even them to touch you.
Even speaking about it can make you relive the very moment you felt like you were dying. Therapy is difficult for this reason.
But unlike genocide, rape is still written off as something trivial. People say women are “asking for it” men say that male victims are “lucky.”
Nobody says that about genocide. And the people who do often don’t recognize it as a genocide on it’s own.
Anyone could relate to mark. He was destroyed. And any victim could remember that’s how they were or even still are. Someone powerful being a victim, is even sometimes more impactful, because those who feel like they were weak for being raped, finally see that they never were.
She literally dies, but okay.
They're probably going to make it implied/behind scenes or like some sorta silhoueted flashback sequence since not every plot detail is 1:1 with comics simply because of trying to cover lot of material for each 40-50 something long episodes.
They've done that for small things like skipping the visual part of Eve and Mark fly William around. William just gave a brief detail about that detail in the show and that was it. Can't blame them cause it's not like they can get away with Mark and Eve commenting "this is so gay" like they did in comics cause 2000s vs present.
I really hope the show changes her character like how The Boys did with Black Noir
If this arc is not adapted to the animation, I shall wash my hands of it entirely.
I feel so bad for Mark, I would take his place in a heartbeat just so he wouldn’t have to experience what she did to him😔💯
Can i share his pain too ?
@@slylataupe4272 I appreciate the concern but no it’s fine brother, only I should be the one to take marks place in that horrible sexual assault she committed
@@thetrueking6137 please, don’t be selfish in this ultimate sacrifice, bro
@@slylataupe4272 I must, I can’t risk anyone else being traumatized for life like Mark was.
yah go tell the red haired lady from avatar that.... have fun with that.
the scene where omni man runs mark through a train was foreshadowing
Where were all the Viltrumite nymphos when I was a kid ? 😢
non-fucking-existent
When i read the comics, i really wish they wouldve let Nolan snap her neck in half when he felt she did something to Mark.
When she gets introduce to the show it might get crazy fr
Crazy because society is under-evolved yet
we got to see a small glimpse of her in season 1 episode 8 in Nolan's flashback when he was being chosen to conquer earth she was also there in the viltrumite lineup waiting to be chosen by her commanding female general.
I hope they lean into this on the show could be a great way to explore the imbalance with men being SA’d and how victims deal with that could be a really good arc
Kind of curious to hear opinions of who is more vile Nolan or Anissa? Both reformed both died. Nolan killed a lot of innocent people and scarred Mark but made amends, while Anissa scarred Mark but could never make it right because of the rippling effect that SA creates in the interpersonal relationships of our protagonist. As a reader I was kind of happy for both characters since they eventually matured and learned compassion of some sort, but I don’t think they have to be forgiven by anybody. It’s the consequence of doing actually evil stuff: don’t expect people to think you’ve changed, be accountable for what you’ve done, but be better and you might just find acceptance from a person uninvolved with the past. These two did the worst things imaginable so I get it’s harder to accept what they did. If I saw them at the store I’d probably walk out the store.
I mean, at least Eve and Nolan did something, even if the origin of the conflict is awful. Not sure, not sure how you redeem a character like that, you simply can't after doing something like that.
I was hoping to see a panel of eve meeting her with a cut of eve covered in her blood afterwards.