The Chilling Brilliance of THE MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN (2008)
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I can't wait to see what Nick Cage movie you'll be looking at. I'm betting it's either gonna be the Wicker Man remake or one of his more serious films like Leaving Las Vegas.
Oh yeah, and here's yet another obligatory request for Night in the Woods and Pink Floyd's The Wall.
Possession (1981) is a must 🤞 so much to dissect. Will keep recommending til my dying breath 💀 hope you’re doing well, Ryan!
"She took the midnight meat train going anywhere."-Journey
It wasn’t to Georgia?
@@CorbCorbin plot twist. she died.
That sounds like she had more than one hotdog.
For a moment she can feel the knife
Screams go on and on and on and on!
Killing
Strangers
Up and down the subway cars
Demons eat somewhere in the ni-e-ight
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Vinny Jones killed Tony Soprano
This movie is about a train made of meat that only moves at night.
I want that movie to exist please.
Sounds like a much better film than this.
@@dosboss7589 ooh, salty
@@dosboss7589 just watched it. Good time
Sounds like my honeymoon
It’s amazing that there’s a movie called THE MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN and it’s somehow not a sleazy porno. Keep up the good work Ryan!
Exactly what I was thinking.
lol
Oh thank god. I wasn't the only person who thought that.
Its actually a short story created by Clive Barker. The guy who made Hellraiser. Its a decent short story as well
Just because it's pornography doesn't automatically make it "sleazy". Far from it....
I always thought that the "fungus" were actually tumors. I believe its said in the film that working for the City Fathers grants you with "gifts", such as an extended period of life. However, over time, everything breaks down. Mahogany's body is no exception to this simple fact.
I know that the City Fathers explain the butchers job in greater detail in the Barker short story.
*hoy-ever
Idk why I got all giddy about the fungus on the chest.... Maybe I've been playing and watching too much Darkwood lately.
"Ever since the accident a week ago I do not feel a need for food or sleep. But I feel a peculiar craving for these red, pullsating mushrooms"
yeah i always thought them to be tumors aswell... why he kept them after cutting them off is still a mystery to me though
@@stefanforrer2573 Maybe he considers his bodily changes a semi-divine gift, making the tumors quasi-relics. Or, there is power in the flesh, and he doesn't want to carelessly spread it into the world.
I remember the hype on Syfy (Sci Fi at the time lol) leading up to this movie, and I watched it and thought it was pretty good. Pretty underrated too since I've never heard anyone mention it since then.
I started to appreciate it the more I got into horror history. It surprised me how clever and imaginative it was.
@@RyanHollinger My guess is Barker may have been influenced by the 1969 film "Medium Cool". It recieved an X rating for language and nudity but since the movie was filmed in and around the 1968 Democratic National Convention and the riots and National Guard intervention that took place at the time, the director alleged it was a "political" X rating.
I remember those ads! Was never a fan of gory horror flicks so the title alone made me steer clear of it, but I was surprised to learn later that it was a) based on a Clive Barker story and b) starred Bradley Cooper.
I actually heard it mentioned once by a film reviewer but I have no idea who it was.
Oh so the UA-cam grammar dictators will be pissed if I keep using sci-fi,then I’ll keep using it. WTF does scfy even stand for!?! Last time I looked there wasn’t any Y in science fiction 🙄😂
The real question isn't why he kills, It's how he does it without getting blood on his suit.
Mad skills?
and wtf is with the fungus???
Well, he _is_ magic.
His Jason Statham powers emerge.
Can we have a round of applause for Ryuhei Kitamura, the director, the one guy who can direct a movie about yakuzas fighting zombies in the woods, the most insane Godzilla movie and a Clive Barker adaptation?
Kitamura is so so good. Really hope more people start to pay attention to him. Starting to see a few things pop up about his work. There was a pretty good long form review of Versus I saw a few months ago on film alchemist channel. That caused me to notice that Kitamura has his own channel with a lot LOT of very interesting stuff on it.
Ultimate Versus, love it!
I wonder if the Meat Train man learned his meat carving skills on SKILLSHARE?
Two things: I really like this movie I think its well done in story telling and keeping the twist hidden. Also don't ever dial it back. The fact that you analyze these movies the way you do is why Im subbed to you. Your insight is intriguing.
When I was a teenager a little over 20 years ago, I paid an astronomical amount of money for the Books Of Blood collection. Sadly, someone borrowed a volume or two and I no longer have the full set. Clive Barker was a large influence in my literary interests, his blending of horror, dark fantasy, and magic has stood out to me over the years. I've always loved his ability to write stories with very different genre styles while able to keep the plot interesting. Unfortunately, I've not watched this film. I now have a goal for this weekend. Thanks for that.
Argh. I hate when it happens. That’s why I don’t let people borrow my books or movies
You will not be disappointed
Update us on how you like it!
Same here, I lost Cabal l that way too. Would love the third book of the art. Think we will ever get it?
I love those type of stories and that type of vibe is what resonates in my soul. Horror is the best genre. Great comment.
I watched 'Midnight Meat Train', 'Creep', and 'End of the Line' all close to each other, having no idea they all took place in subways.
I really like the setting. There's so many abandoned tunnels and hidden sections down there that most people never know about. I'd love to see more movies take advantage of that.
Yeah, it's one of the reasons why I love the Metro series, both games and books. The feeling of paranoia you get from the setting alone is just insane.
Creep took place in a subway? Did I watch a different Creep then the one you're talking about?
@@rickc2102 There was a different movie in the early 2000s called Creep. Ryan actually covered it already: ua-cam.com/video/CLeqCYIMiJY/v-deo.html
@@PainCausingSamurai ok thanks!
This is pretty far out of your realm but if you want a film with a crazy final act Sorry to Bother You is a great pick.
This was the film I watched with my gf on our first date. Definitely gave some good talking points afterwards with the ending. I agree with panda out of your realm but it has a great final act!!
I'm degenerating by watching so much YT, I read your comment and thought you are trying to insult the channel owner by calling him "prick" 😖
@@ivyg6178 😁😁
What an odd place to find you of all people here
We took THE MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN to the new Hollinger video
Midnight Meat Train to Georgia:
Are You Brave Enough to Brisket?
The street photography just brought back a really old but fond memory. Years and years ago, my family was driving through a city. I don't remember where we were going or why, but I do remember my younger sister was in the backseat with our shih tzu, Ollie. He loved to rest his front paws on the open window and look out, and while we were stuck in traffic, a man walking passed suddenly stopped and quickly set up a tripod to take a couple of photos. Ollie has been gone a long time now, but it makes me teary-happy to think that somewhere, a street photographer has an artsy black and white photo of him happily looking out of a car window.
Vinnie Jones is terrifying in this movie, despite being mute and dressed in a fine suit.
_LOVED_ the Barker short story. I was always steered clear of the movie, given the track record of his stories to movies. Maybe I’ll check it out.
It's absolutely worth a watch.
I love the short story but hated the movie. That's just me though, you might enjoy it.
@@dosboss7589 yeah I really enjoy the movie but haven't read the short story.
It's definitely one to avoid, in my opinion, especially if you love the original story.
It's a good movie that suffers in the adaptation department, so unless you're a big fan of the short story, it's worth a watch
I watched this movie when I was visiting my sister in a different city. Neither of us like horror movies that much but I was intrigued enough by the title to give it a go. She fell asleep almost as soon as the movie started, so I was left alone, watching this bizarre movie in an unfamiliar location. It was a surreal experience. For a while, no one I talked to about it had ever heard of it so I began to almost suspect that I'd dreamed it or something.
I’m gonna be completely honest, I misread the title of the movie as “meat rain” and thought it was a horror movie based off that one town who had meat fall from the sky.
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs?
Well, there's a few stories from the 1800's about a small town, that would just randomly have fish, frogs or snakes rain down from the sky.
I’m sorry, the what now?
@@Pusher97 Lluvia de Peces
@@Pusher97 Hysterical History has a podcast episode on it. It's never been officially explained, far as I know, but this mystery meat just fell from the sky on a town in Kentucky in 1876.
I first caught this movie on tv late at night, I knew nothing about it going on. It is surprisingly good. Tonally it kinda reminds me of Mimic.
A coworker and I drove 2 hrs across the state to the only theater that was showing this. Roadtrip well worth it.
AWESOME!👍🙏💯💯
"He's leavin' on the midnight meat train to Georgia..."-Gladys Knight
The many times I've seen this movie in the bargain bin at my local electronics store always made me believe this was just one of the thousands cheap horror slashers from around the time. And honestly, the DVD box didn't make it look any better. I am extremely surprised to now hear that the movie actually isn't just that.
One of the best adaptation's of Clive Barker's short stories.
Agreed, I feel the movie is often overlooked.
2:20 Love the way he says the word shape
I always just chalked the contrasted ending as the filmmakers focusing more on the human element. That is to say the psychological journey of Leon. It just seemed like they wanted to focus on that part of the story, which admittedly made the creature reveal seem more like a letdown than a shock. But I just think they worked with what they had and had to choose which parts to focus more on. Leon and Mahogany were the focus and that part of the movie really shined. That's my thoughts, anyway.
You're knocking it out of the park, you've been covering some of my personal favourite underrated flicks for a while now.
Would love to see you cover Benson & Moorehead’s “Resolution” and “The Endless”
Haven't seen 'Resolution,' what about 'Spring'? Or did he already do that one?
I saw a thing about those “fungus” things on Mahogany’s chest… they’re actually a rare and severe type of skin cancer that causes big volcano looking tumors on the skin, and he was likely keeping them for testing. I have lung cancer and if I ever cough up blood or anything I have to keep it in a bag and give it to my doctor. It’s gross but necessary to know if there’s any lung tissue or cancer cells in the stuff that comes up. So having someone in his condition keep the tumors makes sense.
I think they were just showing his health was failing and he’s a very meticulous and structured man with a strict schedule and regimen and doesn’t even let something like cancer slow him down much.
I remember watching this years back with a group of friends for the title, we had first joked around with the film and by the end of it were genuinely interested and engaged in it. I will never forget you Mr. Holes.
The way this man Ryan explains film is fucking crazy.
I watched this solely for the fact that it was directed by Ryuhei Kitamura ("Versus"), and had Vinnie Jones. Everything else was just a bonus
Same!!
I did not know that; now knowing that, I feel as though I might quite enjoy it.
This is one of those movies that I watched and liked more because it wasn't just a random serial murderer who enjoyed slicing and dicing. It felt it had more purpose to it (even with it being as weak as it ended up being). I like when things are more left to the imagination.
As a suggestion, check out The Empty Man.
Empty Man was good.
Insane that Rampage is in this film!
Perfect timing! Seen this got uploaded as I was getting out of work.
I bloody love this movie. Your essay said exactly why that's so.
Since we’re on the topic of Clive Barker stories, how about talking about Rawhead Rex? The movie adaptation is pretty bad, but I think Rawhead is a unique monster and what he’s meant to represent could make for an interesting video.
If any movie ever deserved a better remake it would be Rawhead Rex.
That short story still kinda weirds me out
@@AirQuotes Yeah. Super violent and unnerving.
I'd love to see you cover Possession (1981). It doesn't have an unexpected final act, but takes a turn from what feels like a drama about a failing marriage to a surreal nightmare maybe halfway? Really caught me off guard and it's one of my favorite films.
"So... do I call you Mahogany, or just the Butcher, or what?
"You can call me Susan if it makes you happy."
What the hell?! That twist is a real 180.
I remember watching this when I was younger (and less into horror history) and thinking it was awful. BUT now being much more appreciative of different types of horror and also knowing it comes out of Clive Barker's bag of tricks it makes way more sense and I definitely want to give it another watch in the near future.
It reminds me of Nietzsche's quote "And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you". The more Leon gazes at Mahogany the more he becomes like him till he becomes him.
The void is a good cosmic horror and was largely improv
The best lovecraftian, non-Lovecraft movie ever made.
"You who see but does not understand."
My TMA-infested brain immediately thinks of The Beholding, just for the thematic similarities.
Absolutely underrated movie from an underrated era. Midnight Meat Train is fantastic.
I love that somewhere in my life Brooke Sheilds stars in a movie called THE MIDNIGHT MEATRAIN. I will love her forever.
The only reason I saw this movie was because our very immature friend group found phallic comedy in the title. The movie itself though was really good, and actually threw me at the end. I was pleasantly surprised by this one and will probably re-watch it soon.
"Before we jump aboard..."
Because Trains..
Nice segway to Skillshare Ryan...
Heart ya and your content!
I am so happy to see you cover this one. I've always loved this and thought it was a hidden gem. Obviously it's not perfect but it did some cool stuff.
It's interesting that the main character is a photographer who wants to capture the reality of the city he's in. For those who aren't pretentious art nerds like myself, there was a art movement shortly after cameras became commercially available were the goal was to capture the world as it really is, in fact Beksinski was heavily criticized by the art community because he wasn't doing just that.
I only watched it because it kept popping up in UA-cam "gory movie deaths" compilations and I was intrigued by its weirdness and how stylised and over the top it looked. I was pleasantly surprised by how deep and interesting it turned out to be.
I remember watching this movie by myself when I was younger and just being so confused, yet intrigued. I had no idea what I just watched and what it meant, but a part of me liked it. lol
The twist where it turns out that the audience is the train itself is pure cinematography.
This was the first thing I ever saw Bradley Cooper in, so to me he’s always just “the meat train guy”
Funny enough, all the week I’ve been recommended this film itself’s recap... and now Ryan reviews this, man I’m impressed
midnight meat train is an AMAZING story held back with really weird direction and some really strange vfx shots
The film was such a good adaptation that when I re-read the short story I was surprised how different it actually was. It nailed the original's horror while building on it, in the best way.
I remember going in thinking it was going to be a cringy horror flick yet halfway through I was on the edge of my seat. Too underrated in my opinion.
I watched this film fairly recently and really enjoyed it. I like when the protagonist has this slow descent into darkness; especially when it's due to taking their curiosities too far and hesitantly crossing a line (knowing its a point of no return). Leon's literal and psychological descent was just as compelling to me as the mystery of the butcher and the horrors of his world.
I personally didn't hate the ending and I feel there was enough there for it to not feel completely out of nowhere. I mean, the whole butcher/train mystery alluded to something clearly going on in the city underbelly and the body horror, overt violence, and atmosphere of the train ride itself didn't make the existence of monsters feel head scratching.
Literally only just watched this film and I loved it. Leaving so many questions but I loved that, so much to talk about with friends 😂
I remember watching this with my wife. We both really enjoyed it until the end. After the final twist I loved it and she thought it was a waste of time.
LEON THE BUTCHER SCORE AT THE END CREDITS SLAPS LIKE HELL. DANaa DAnana DAnana.
I too expected the reveal of the "founding fathers" to be a bit more cosmic but on reflection without an exposition dump it would be difficult to get such a concept over.
watched this movie with very low expectations a few years ago and was very pleasantly surprised.
You already did that great breakdown of how Hollywood ruined the Slenderman mythos, but I'd love to get a vid about the Marble Hornets source material
1st comment on this channel...when you mentioned the term "cosmic SLASHER" my mind went haywire. Being a "writer" (a rare thing these days...uh for me anyways in that I'm your typical underachieving procrastinating yank) I LOVED those two words together and the possibilities that go along with such a phrase so thanks for that brother.
This and Film Comics explained doing Identity posted within 30 minutes of each other! I must've been a good girl!!! Already learning, did NOT know this was released theatrically. Explains even 2008 Bradley Cooper appearance though. And yeah did hope for more elder creatures who had been there since the beginning and could swallow NY whole if not fed. But still worked.
I’m happy we follow the same channels
Film comics explained sucks. 95% of the videos are just clips of the movie with no actual explanation.
@@Diogenes-totes nah. He explains a lot. Tell me one video where he doesn’t explain ?
@@themondoshow you clearly didn’t understand what I meant.
He explains some information, never with any depth and the majority of his videos are just wholesale clips with zero commentary. Every single video I’ve ever seen is more the actual content then his explanation of the content.
@@Diogenes-totes example
One of the best underrated if even known Horror movies. You are the first of the more known channels talking about it.
You've reviewed over 100 horror films. Have you ever considered writing your own horror film? And if so what sub genre would you write?
Just spit-balling, I imagine it would be something between a slasher and psychological horror.
Ryan coining the term 'Cosmic Slasher' is going to get so many new films made I swear it
The director of this also directed one of my guiltiest pleasures--'No One Lives'. It stars Luke Evans and while it's nothing new or groundbreaking, I really enjoyed it as a fun, mindless movie. Evans is great in it too!
just a detail about this film i thought i'd add. when speaking to Ms. Hoff about his art, he describes his efforts as "trying to capture the heart of the city" and she says he's failed, but encourages him to keep trying. following this, he becomes a replacement for Mahogany, a butcher who provides the meat keeping an insidious unknown population of secret monsters living beneath the city from usurping the surface.
in a way, he did end up capturing the heart of the city, just not the way he intended. now, he's dutybound to literally contain the secret core of the city: an organization which exists to prevent society's collapse due to the incursion of Those Beneath.
this is just a thing i think is cool about this movie, and as always, Clive Barker is sorely underrated. I know he's associated with schlock, but the man has legit chops and is in the same current as Junji Ito and Guillermo Del Toro, so he's not to be underestimated.
He's famously a Lovecraft* hater, but it's also undeniable that his work draws a lot of inspiration from Lovecraft as well. Barker is a great example of how our childhood fascinations can morph into a morbid hate-fueled usurpation quest, as his work is almost (imo) driven by an impulse to do Lovecraft's ideas, but like, better and more personal. Barker and I disagree on whether we like Lovecraft, but I cant help but love Barker all the same, as he time and time reminds me how we dont need to mindlessly worship Lovecraft to capture the soul of his writing.
*Im back with another footnote about how Lovecraft was kind of a piece of shit but actually he's kinda cool because his work resonates really strongly with people in the margins. Barker hates the man for legitimate reasons, and his work reflects the things he prioritized over Lovecraft, and this contrast is super interesting on its own. Barker's much more personal and psychological, interested in people and how they interact, while Lovecraft's head is in the clouds, speculating about outer gods and secret alien histories. Lovecraft touches on the things Barker is interested in, and we can see a grudging interest in things like Hellraiser, which evoke Lovecraftian ideas about human experience and its boundaries, while still shitting all over Lovecraft's sexy tentacle monsters with his sexy BDSM demons. (They even have chains that act like tentacles it cracks me up. It's like Kubrick's car changeup in The Shining just to spite King)
Barker's work is spectacularly fun and interesting, and while I had not realized at the time that this was one of his, rewatching it, it actually makes a lot of sense.
I'm sorry I ever talked shit about Clive. his work slaps. if you havent seen the original Hellraiser, go check it out.
I really enjoyed this film, I just got into photography and I was obsessed with the psychology of killers
I remember a couple years ago I had a “Clive Barker Halloween” watching this for the first time right after Candyman and Hellraiser. It was a great time.
Way underrated flick. This is gonna be good
I also think the extreme CGI-kills are there to show, that this is a Story with a phantasy element. I think the ending is great
As long as you keep covering horror, I’m staying subscribed!
On the real, Ryan, I’d love to see you do 1922 (ANOTHER short story/novella turned into a film-this time written by Stephen King).
This film caught me and my friends by surprise when we wanted to rent a bad movie on purpose for a bad movie evening and ended up watching a nice flick
The ending to a story is almost just as important as the story itself. So yes, having learned how the original Clive Barker story ended... yeah, the movie has dropped the ball on that one. Cosmic elders are just far more interesting. I lost interest in the film as soon as the generic Descent-esque mutants showed up. I'm a fan of cosmic horror myself specifically because their antagonists/monsters are just so out of the norm and ordinary that makes them unique and refreshing; removing that cosmic element from the equation also removes what makes the story appealing in the first place. Ergo, I'm gonna have to give this film a big "No" and a thumbs down.
I agree, it's like making a movie of Shadow Over Innsmouth and replacing Dagon cultists with zombies or something.
The Castle Freak remake had some good ideas within it, while just not having the quality of a good movie.
It actually ends in a very cosmic horror way, with some wild shit. It’s just a bore of a movie for the first hour.
If you enjoy Lovecraft, I’d say the ending is worth sitting through it.
@@dosboss7589 that was kinda done in Messiah of Evil and the movie is actually quite good.
Cosmic horror is little more than lazy spectacle at this point.
I haven't read the story, but I really disliked the ending as it didn't redeem the rest of the film for me. It's good to hear that the original had a more satisfying ending/premise, at least.
I remember watching this one time really late at night on either Syfy or AMC and for years I never knew what it was until this video.
I really appreciate this review, specifically because I couldn't bring up the movie with my friends who just laugh at the name. I like seeing the decent of the Mc and thought the butcher literally unable to tell his story
I owe the Sci-Fi Channel for alerting me to the existence of this movie. Really wish they’d still show films like this.
They made good use of Vinnie Jones here. He's maybe not that much of an actor, but he works as long as he can play a stone-cold hardass without much dialogue.
I made the mistake of watching the movie over at a friends house long ago when I was just like 12 or 13.
Recently, about 3 months ago I remembered about the movie and rewatched it and it was actually much better than I first gave it credit for, it's actually one of those movies that appeals to me very much.
I’m due for a rewatch on this one-I forgot Ted Raimi was even in it! I can’t remember if I read the story or saw the movie first-and if I knew the twist going in regardless-but I didn’t mind the final reveal in any event; I dig horror stories where everything feels increasingly “off” until some totally bizarre unveiling at the last moment
11:38 This reminded me of the scene in Extras where Vinnie Jones, still playing the big ass dude you don't want to fk with, confronts a action flick actor pretending to be retired SAS, and forces him to say that Vinnie would kick his ass in a fight.
I really don't know how this didn't become a modern horror classic. It is so great.
ive always had this on my watch list but never jumped in, but I think I finally will.
And Clive Barker says he wasn't influenced by Lovecraft.
I think I said this before in a video but I'm not really knowledgeable on Clive Barker's entire body of work so excuse me if I end up comparing him to Lovecraft!
@@RyanHollinger Oh, it wasn't a criticism of your take as much as i find Barker's opinion on Lovecraft a little weird considering what, to me at least, seem to be obvious influences.
"So that was a fucking lie."
If he was exposed to it any way, then he was influenced by it. Whether he wants to admit it or not
This movie blew my mind when I first saw it.
Same
If ANYONE was to write a Cosmic Slasher, it would be the inimitable Clive Barker lol
I remember my mom used to buy bootleg B movies and she had an entire CD case of them, this I remember being one of the better direct to DVD movies
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this movie is one i saw before i heard anyone do a review of, and it honestly baffled me when i started seeing people degrade and mock it. It was always labelled as too silly, over the top, and mindless, yet the actors did a great job, the pacing is pretty good, and while the ending is a bit silly the sequences leading up to the reveal are handled really well, as well as give a sort of sympathetic light on the butcher. It doesn't even really show the guys helping him as "evil" either. it is explained it is a necissary thing that has to happen, and it basically makes it clear everyone involved has their hands tied and are just doing what needs to be done.
I want you to cover The Tall Man, the film Pascal Laugier made after Martyrs. I guess it’s more suspense thriller than horror, but still...it twists and turns and goes where you don’t expect, and I love it. :)
I think I read the Clive Barker short story about 30 years ago, really need to catch this adaptation. I feckin love Big Chris / Bullet Tooth Tony.
Woah, you the man
Smilla's Sense of Snow takes a hard left turn in the third act if you are looking for more movies like that.
What if, one day, Ryan made a video and says, “however” with absolute enunciation?
Heresy
Hahaha, unless- ? 😳😳😳
That would be a shock and a disappointment. I can't imagine it going over well. Unless, of course, it were the start of the apocalypse?
BRILLIANCE!?!?! We laughed at this film for ages growing up.... has the horror industry gotten THAT bad?