If anyone wants to try the trigger stabilisation mod that Jeff did and doesn't have a machine shop, I did it earlier. 1. I recommend knipex pliers wrench [7 inch or smaller] to remove the pin. Mine was VERY HARD to remove. I couldn't do it with needlenose pliers. 2. Use small 1/2" piece of capton tape around pin. Trim the tape till the pin will fit. I had about 3/4 of the pin covered with tape. 3. That's it. My trigger is dead stable. No Wiggling. I really enjoy watching your videos Jeff + Dad !
@@LARRYBROADTMAN The pin a bit too skinny to fit snug in the hole. That's why I added a small piece of the tape on the middle of the pin. The clearance on the side wasn't an issue with mine.
To be fair, every gun can be improved with additional engineering or tuning. The manufacturers have to draw a line under what can be done on a production line. I have seen the boys make bits which make very minor differences but they love the engineering challenge.
We should stop looking for excuses for the producers, or you bring a good product to the market and possibly with updates over time, but you do not hear from Brokock themselves that they pay any attention to it, destruction of a top product, which can actually become exelent, with the right Update@@paulblundell8033
As always,brilliant video....how clever was that!!!quite amazing,most enjoyable to watch and learn from a complete expert,looking forward to the next instalment,kind regards,Phil.
Your videos on the BRK Ghost are awesome! It's refreshing watching someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Where could I source the lighter trigger springs in the U.S.?
Another good video - straight to the point with a clear successful outcome - just what I need on a Monday morning tea break 🙂 Looking forward to the disassembly video
Jeff, really great how you keep coming up with great updates to all the Airguns produced, shows that the attention of a good Engineer can take a product to the next level. Great Man keep it up, I always enjoy your UA-cam videos😎😎
Did you install a lighter trigger spring? or cut the existing one? I just got my BRK Ghost in Carbine this week and set up yesterday... i'm smitten, but the trigger is def. needing help if i'm using this for FT.
A practise I carry out, after any trigger adjustment, is to hand smack the rifle action (not loaded but cocked) all around and bump the butt on the ground in order to check it will not go off on its own.
Hi Jeff, I'm still struggling to reduce the weight of the second stage pull (trying to lighten it up to a taarget rifle spec !!) I have not shortened the long spring on the push rod. Is that the only option or are there springs in the rear cassette that need changing? Thanks Gordon
i change the trigger setting to make is lighter, but now my BRK Ghost Trigger Lock is not Working, while it is Locked trigger still can shoot when pressed, can you help me which screw to adjust ? thank you
Hi Jeff, great video again, just recieved my Ghost hp and the same as yours a bit of play in the trigger and feels a bit heavy. In the video you talk about a couple of springs but did I miss the bit with the second spring? I saw the centre one just above the blade. Is the second one on the long linkage? Ive heard the brass ends can be very difficult to remove? Keep them coming
thanks for watching, yes the second spring is on the linkage the brass end come ok on the ones i have done, unless they have started thread locking them, the trigger pins can be a pain to get out the side plate tends to jam them in 😀
Excellent watch and production as ever 😁👍 It just goes to shows that even a near perfect gun still has bits, and bobs/corners cut to meet either a time frame or production budget! Thankfully theres blokes such as yourself 💪👌👍 very nicely done!!! I bet that trigger feels sublime 😊 atvb
I also think BRK/Daystate should offer the upgrade triggers/parts. I did the sear surface polish / return linkage spring & now doing 1st stage spring. I am one who doesn't like the Ghost trigger no matter what is done with just allen key adjustments outa box. I shoot @ 100 exclusively with the Ghost & no way the factory trigger can get me were I need to be. Hopefully after the 1st stage spring change I will be happy. The rest I did made it much smoother. Joe
The trigger on my new Ghost was the worst of any air rifle I've shot in over forty years. Was like pressing a rubber ball. After many hours of work I've managed to much improve it, although that and my wolverine have the worst triggers of the 11 air rifles my son and I own.
That's a shame ours wasn't the best trigger i have had, but not that bad know worse than my M3 but i will say they are all better in sub 12 fac they do get heavy
My Impact trigger is also not great but is better than my Ghost. Still can't match a Weihrauch record trigger. Those and the trigger on my prophet are great. All my rimfire rifles have better triggers than my ghost. Although heavier weight, my full bore rifle has very good match trigger. .@@sub12airgunners
Great video, superb engineering skills, why the manufacturers don’t do this I will never understand. There’s nothing worse than a sloppy trigger system. I know that tolerance limits will apply within a trigger system but maybe they should be revised.
Actually just ridiculous that we consumers always accept this, a PCP of 2145 € and then you have to update it to make it a fine-shooting PCP. it is best to ignore the products, then the Producer must take action to sell his products. My BRK Ghost HP .25 has a crappy trigger way too heavy, unadjustable you should collaborate with daystate to offer these parts as an upgrade performance parts
I Agree I have 5 Hp PCP,c - order from best to worst trigger Daystate RW Safari .30, - FX Dreamline Tact .25 - Air Arms EV 2 .177 - AGT Vulcan 2 .25, Huben K1 2019 .22 - BRK Ghost HP .25 @@markl4670
I have had to spend lots & lots of time gettng the ghost trigger usable for 100 bench. Not competitive outa box, not even close. My Uragan gen 1 trigger blows the factory ghost away & purely by design. I think thats the part that bugs me .At $2200.+ the factory trigger is far from acceptable to me. The only reason I'm stubbornly hanging in there with modding the trigger is the accuracy potential of .30 Ghost's are extremely good. Joe
If anyone wants to try the trigger stabilisation mod that Jeff did and doesn't have a machine shop, I did it earlier.
1. I recommend knipex pliers wrench [7 inch or smaller] to remove the pin. Mine was VERY HARD to remove. I couldn't do it with needlenose pliers.
2. Use small 1/2" piece of capton tape around pin. Trim the tape till the pin will fit. I had about 3/4 of the pin covered with tape.
3. That's it. My trigger is dead stable. No Wiggling.
I really enjoy watching your videos Jeff + Dad !
nice one, you can beat a bit of shed engineering 👍
Could shims on each side of the pin be used to eliminate clearance?
@@LARRYBROADTMAN The pin a bit too skinny to fit snug in the hole. That's why I added a small piece of the tape on the middle of the pin. The clearance on the side wasn't an issue with mine.
Excellent camera work, along with very subtle machining guidance for those in the know. Thank you.
thank you 👍
Excellent Jeff, every little helps. Shame you have to improve what are not cheap rifles though. 👍👍
To be fair, every gun can be improved with additional engineering or tuning. The manufacturers have to draw a line under what can be done on a production line.
I have seen the boys make bits which make very minor differences but they love the engineering challenge.
As said the trigger was pretty good to start with, we do these bits because we can we like our guns to be the best in the uk 😁
We should stop looking for excuses for the producers, or you bring a good product to the market and possibly with updates over time, but you do not hear from Brokock themselves that they pay any attention to it, destruction of a top product, which can actually become exelent, with the right Update@@paulblundell8033
This trigger is insane. Was lucky enough to have a feel down at the range 😎
I thought Geoff had a big smile 😉
@@paulblundell8033 A huge grin 😄
As always,brilliant video....how clever was that!!!quite amazing,most enjoyable to watch and learn from a complete expert,looking forward to the next instalment,kind regards,Phil.
Thanks mate 👍👍
Your videos on the BRK Ghost are awesome! It's refreshing watching someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Where could I source the lighter trigger springs in the U.S.?
Great video again chaps ,nice work.
thanks mate 😀
Nice job, very well done.
thank you
devil is in the detail mate and that is a quality little update to make a fair trigger into a top notch trigger . very nicely done my friend 👍
Thank you
Always a great watch Jeff, and very informative, thank you for your time and sharing with us Cheers 👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment 😀😀👍👍
@@sub12airgunners Always a pleasure Cheers 👌👌👍👍👍👍
Another good video - straight to the point with a clear successful outcome - just what I need on a Monday morning tea break 🙂 Looking forward to the disassembly video
thanks for watching Tim 👍👍
Really enjoy your videos 👍
Thank you 😀
Jeff, really great how you keep coming up with great updates to all the Airguns produced, shows that the attention of a good Engineer can take a product to the next level.
Great Man keep it up, I always enjoy your UA-cam videos😎😎
thanks very much glad you like them 😀😀
I can say everything you do must make you feel proud to explain and make brilliant parts where did you learn your trade there can't be many like you 👍
thanks very much, we like to do things right 😀😀 it's all self taught 👍👍
Did you install a lighter trigger spring? or cut the existing one? I just got my BRK Ghost in Carbine this week and set up yesterday... i'm smitten, but the trigger is def. needing help if i'm using this for FT.
Mine is heavy too I feel it pulls off centre when pulling the trigger. I just need the trigger being much lighter.
A practise I carry out, after any trigger adjustment, is to hand smack the rifle action (not loaded but cocked) all around and bump the butt on the ground in order to check it will not go off on its own.
a good idea👍
Hi Jeff, I'm still struggling to reduce the weight of the second stage pull (trying to lighten it up to a taarget rifle spec !!) I have not shortened the long spring on the push rod. Is that the only option or are there springs in the rear cassette that need changing? Thanks
Gordon
Hi Jeff, Have you made any changes to the spring in the rear cassette that holds the sears?
Thanks for showing us the mod, looks to have turned out well. 👍👍
Thanks for watching
Nicely done 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks for the video very informative; I am thinking of getting a BRK Ghost.
thank you 😀😀 you wont be disappointed they are very good out of the box 👍👍
Excellent work Jake, can't beat a decent trigger
Thanks mate you are right there 😀😀
Is it possible to see how you polish all the components of the trigger cassette?
i change the trigger setting to make is lighter, but now my BRK Ghost Trigger Lock is not Working, while it is Locked trigger still can shoot when pressed, can you help me which screw to adjust ? thank you
Really enjoyable video 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Jeff, great video again, just recieved my Ghost hp and the same as yours a bit of play in the trigger and feels a bit heavy. In the video you talk about a couple of springs but did I miss the bit with the second spring? I saw the centre one just above the blade. Is the second one on the long linkage? Ive heard the brass ends can be very difficult to remove?
Keep them coming
thanks for watching, yes the second spring is on the linkage the brass end come ok on the ones i have done, unless they have started thread locking them, the trigger pins can be a pain to get out the side plate tends to jam them in 😀
May I ask what changes you made to the rear spring?@@sub12airgunners
Excellent watch and production as ever 😁👍
It just goes to shows that even a near perfect gun still has bits, and bobs/corners cut to meet either a time frame or production budget!
Thankfully theres blokes such as yourself 💪👌👍 very nicely done!!! I bet that trigger feels sublime 😊
atvb
Yes i think they can all be improved, it's just not cost effective for manufactures to some of this stuff 😀😀
Great video, Where can I find the lighter springs?
Looking to do the same with my rifle.
Thanks!
Jim
lee springs is a good place, we have a box with loads so it was just a dig through the box for us so i cant give you a size and weight
"We have re-balanced the valve"? Would you please explain what you mean? Many thanks
we have changed the valve spring and hammer spring and hammer 😀
@@sub12airgunners Understood, thanks.
Thanks been waiting for that one good work.
thank you 😀
Hi do you improve these rifles for paying customers
Hi sorry no we don't, we do our guns for the videos
@@sub12airgunners shame but understand
NICE LITTLE UPGRADE. VERY CLEVER AS ALWAYS! 😁😁😁
thank you 👍👍
I think you should collaborate with daystate to offer these parts as a upgrade performance parts👍🏻
that would be nice 😀
I also think BRK/Daystate should offer the upgrade triggers/parts. I did the sear surface polish / return linkage spring & now doing 1st stage spring. I am one who doesn't like the Ghost trigger no matter what is done with just allen key adjustments outa box. I shoot @ 100 exclusively with the Ghost & no way the factory trigger can get me were I need to be. Hopefully after the 1st stage spring change I will be happy. The rest I did made it much smoother.
Joe
Love the videos - i wish I had the skills, knowledge and tools to do some of the stuff you do. Do I detect a hint of Australian accent there??
thank you i am very lucky to have the mercheens 😀😀 no Aus accent 😁😁
@sub12airgunners. about the accent. I'm 67, was born, and still live in Norfolk UK.
I can hear twinges of it in your commentary. Am I wrong?
Great mod, brilliant video👍🏼
Glad you like it
Where can I get the lighter spring?
for springs we use a compony called Lee springs 👍
Nice job as usual. Keep it coming mate. 👍😀
Thanks, will do 👍
I want to ask, sir, can you add a power plenum like FX Impact, which has a power plenum of up to 720
hi i think the plenum on the ghost is about 70cc anyway it's 86 on the delta wolf
Wonderful work ( but I am a little biased 😊)
thanks 😁
It all adds up to making a great gun, even better….by the way that was the dimensions of the new trigger spring 😀
The trigger on my new Ghost was the worst of any air rifle I've shot in over forty years. Was like pressing a rubber ball. After many hours of work I've managed to much improve it, although that and my wolverine have the worst triggers of the 11 air rifles my son and I own.
That's a shame ours wasn't the best trigger i have had, but not that bad know worse than my M3 but i will say they are all better in sub 12 fac they do get heavy
My Impact trigger is also not great but is better than my Ghost. Still can't match a Weihrauch record trigger. Those and the trigger on my prophet are great. All my rimfire rifles have better triggers than my ghost. Although heavier weight, my full bore rifle has very good match trigger. .@@sub12airgunners
On the trigger mod, why not just use a slightly larger pin and a couple of nylon washers, one each side of the pin, surely that would do the same job?
you could but then you would need to drill the action as well, this way the only machining is to a small component that's easy to replace 👍
Great video, superb engineering skills, why the manufacturers don’t do this I will never understand. There’s nothing worse than a sloppy trigger system. I know that tolerance limits will apply within a trigger system but maybe they should be revised.
yes it is very hard on a production line to have very close tolerances you can end up with a lot of hand finishing
Wonder if anyone offers this service? Not even gonna attempt it myself.
Actually just ridiculous that we consumers always accept this, a PCP of 2145 € and then you have to update it to make it a fine-shooting PCP. it is best to ignore the products, then the Producer must take action to sell his products.
My BRK Ghost HP .25 has a crappy trigger way too heavy, unadjustable
you should collaborate with daystate to offer these parts as an upgrade performance parts
i can understand what you mean 👍
Agree. My Ghost trigger is the worst of the 11 air rifles we have.
I Agree I have 5 Hp PCP,c - order from best to worst trigger Daystate RW Safari .30, - FX Dreamline Tact .25 - Air Arms EV 2 .177 - AGT Vulcan 2 .25, Huben K1 2019 .22 - BRK Ghost HP .25 @@markl4670
I have had to spend lots & lots of time gettng the ghost trigger usable for 100 bench. Not competitive outa box, not even close. My Uragan gen 1 trigger blows the factory ghost away & purely by design. I think thats the part that bugs me .At $2200.+ the factory trigger is far from acceptable to me. The only reason I'm stubbornly hanging in there with modding the trigger is the accuracy potential of .30 Ghost's are extremely good.
Joe
impressionnent 😍😍😍
thank you😀
Love it 😊
Thanks 😁
nice 😀😀
😁
Jeff do work on uther people's gun's. Just wondering, or is this just a hobby. Good video.
Hi no sorry it's just a hobby for us 😀