Nintendo Switch OLED Model Review: A Brilliant Display Upgrade - But Is That Enough?

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  • Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
  • No, it's not the Switch Pro - and no, it has no extra performance or any radical new features compared to the existing model. But what the Switch OLED Model does have is an absolutely brilliant screen - in fact, it's the best display on any handheld games machine we've used. John Linneman takes point for the Digital Foundry hardware review!
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  • @Dknightxs
    @Dknightxs 2 роки тому +620

    This just shows how good the vita was and how far it was ahead of its time, and how poorly sony managed and how some poor choices ruined a otherwise solid gaming handheld

    • @MudMotorsMax
      @MudMotorsMax 2 роки тому +52

      That’s why I’m done with Sony the decisions they make just don’t make sense to a gamer. They just want your money if they don’t make enough on a product they Abandon it and I have a paper weight… vita, PSMove I’m done with Sony. Steam Deck is preordered 512 GB version

    • @vivid8979
      @vivid8979 2 роки тому +22

      Yup that console could've been better and if they managed it well we might have a successor to it.. Which provides competition for Nintendo which always promotes innovation and overall better for the market..

    • @jet613
      @jet613 2 роки тому +34

      @@MudMotorsMax You have to think though. Every company is after your money man. Nothing is free and nobody will work for free. Any company is going to shift focus to get sales. If something doesn't sell even after trying to pump it up. Cut your losses and move on. Otherwise your just throwing money away. Money that should be used to pay for bills to run the company and pay the employees and be inject into development for future products and services . Anyone could see from a mile away that they would use proprietary memory on the Vita since they had done that in the past on psp, PS2( minus a hard drive kit), and PS1. This doesn't give sony a pass but you know what I'm getting at.

    • @MudMotorsMax
      @MudMotorsMax 2 роки тому +18

      @@jet613 yeah but these business decisions set them up for failure and ultimately we as a Gamer we as a consumer we suffer we give them the money we give them the time and then they make terrible decisions just like remote play they basically pioneer remote play and a band in it and Nerf it down when they realize it’s just too daunting meanwhile Xbox they have backwards compatibility X cloud in the works they got game pass you would think Sony having a library all the way back to PS1 will just make it to where their consuls can play everygame but no Sony is too stupid or greedy

    • @MudMotorsMax
      @MudMotorsMax 2 роки тому +1

      @@vivid8979 exactly

  • @niino4329
    @niino4329 2 роки тому +81

    Both, the original and the 2019 revised switch, had several different panels from different manufacturers built into them, which was/is just a matter of luck for the buyer. That's how you can get such different results from device to device within the original or the 2019 switch models.

    • @kailee8143
      @kailee8143 2 роки тому +28

      It's funny reading this, after knowing how painful were IPS panel hunts back in 3DS era, when Nintendo randomly put IPS panel on 3DS and it had two screens, so that "random" was doubled if you wanted both IPS screens. Even with this, Nintendo never calibrated their panels, so you could find 3DS with two IPS and one is still more yellow-ish than other. Some people spent thousands dollars just because they wanted a good 3DS panels.

    • @15coals39
      @15coals39 2 роки тому +3

      @@kailee8143 I remember those days

    • @PortfolioPL
      @PortfolioPL 2 роки тому +10

      @@kailee8143 I remember paying some dude to install a backlit panel manually behind the screen of my GBA. Nintendo devices never had really good screens.

    • @jamesgames4553
      @jamesgames4553 2 роки тому +5

      Pretty sure all the 2017 launch units had their panels supplied by Japan Display, but after then when production ramped up Nintendo started to look for extra panel providers. The OLED model will probably be similar - Samsung supplying the launch batch but Nintendo looking to LG and BOE Technology later

    • @armandarmi
      @armandarmi 2 роки тому +1

      The IPS Panel in my V2 its great .. no tint no modified colors it looks great.. ive seen some really bad V2 panels

  • @Cledus2000
    @Cledus2000 2 роки тому +645

    "$99 outdated Android tablet."
    Looks at my beloved Switch
    (Single tear)

    • @vgnvideogameninja2930
      @vgnvideogameninja2930 2 роки тому +51

      Also looks at my launch day Switch, but instead, laughs. My OLED TV puts the Switch OLED screen to shame, and I play Switch games on Ryujinx. Higher resolution (4K and better visuals and frame rate). Got Metroid Dread for free 2 days ago.

    • @TonyJenn
      @TonyJenn 2 роки тому +38

      @@vgnvideogameninja2930 of course, it's an oled tv. It would be a shame if it wasn't.

    • @BeatSlayer
      @BeatSlayer 2 роки тому +62

      @@vgnvideogameninja2930 if you have the money please buy the game to support the developers.

    • @Cledus2000
      @Cledus2000 2 роки тому +31

      @@vgnvideogameninja2930 have fun with input lag and other weird glitches. I'll gladly pay for a premium experience

    • @weaverquest
      @weaverquest 2 роки тому +13

      That's standard affair for any Nintendo device tbh. This OLED screen doesn't sound particularly cutting edge either since 500 nits or more brightness is standard at this point for mid-range smartphones with much higher resolution (it is more difficult for higher density screens to get bright). My biggest issue with the Switch screen was outdoor visibility and that doesn't seem to be adressed whatsoever here with 340 nits max brightness OLED Switch.

  • @Archivist42
    @Archivist42 2 роки тому +49

    RGB subpixel arrangement is a massive plus for me, I really thought they might end up going for the cheaper pentile arrangement which looked blurrier than an equivalent LCD.

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret 2 роки тому

      Oh wow, I didn't expect that at all. That actually makes me feel a bit better if they end up going all out on being anti consumer and replaced the LCD model with this (I want Switch to be able to live to be retro without burn in, why do so so many people seem to not care about that?).

    • @thebravegallade731
      @thebravegallade731 2 роки тому

      @@awesomeferret i'm pretty sure thats thier plan, just that chip shortages and shit meaning they coun't just make it a drop in replacement at the same price.

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 2 роки тому +325

    The level of detail in this review is above anything else, as usual. Tremendous work, John.
    One thing though, is the panel now glass instead of plastic?

    • @RhythmGrizz
      @RhythmGrizz 2 роки тому +16

      I heard it is glass

    • @totty2524
      @totty2524 2 роки тому

      @@RhythmGrizz Does it mean it weighs more?

    • @timholloway8821
      @timholloway8821 2 роки тому +20

      @@totty2524 Pretty sure I saw that they are close to the same weight as in you won't notice it and yes it is glass.

    • @SSNebula
      @SSNebula 2 роки тому +5

      It's either fibre glass or normal glass it's not plastic as plastic and self-emissive pixels don't really work well given that OLED is essentially voltages that create pixels well least that's part of how it works on my BX CX and C1 I have an OLED in each room you really can't go back once you've gone OLED 👍👍👍

    • @samirjaved83
      @samirjaved83 2 роки тому

      Plastic

  • @p3rrypm
    @p3rrypm 2 роки тому +370

    After using the new OLED switch, I can honestly say that I feel the console is worth the upgrade.

    • @glow4417
      @glow4417 2 роки тому +16

      Wasn't going to buy one, didn't think about when it launched. But decided to sell my switch and upgrade, glad I did. Easily worth the 50 dollars to me, I would say to me this is more like a 150 dollar upgrade, because I only play in hand held mode and it's a massive difference. Bright colors look neon compared to pastel looking, contrast is ink black compared to dark gray.
      So I play in my pc and push some games to 240 frames, super smooth. But the oled screen brings something different than my pc monitors with the bright colors and contrast.

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 2 роки тому +9

      Worth the upgrade if you're using it handheld often, not sure if you don't... I have a V2 Switch and i'm using it in Docked mode 90% of the time, so i don't see the point for my use tbh. But yeah i guess if you're using it mostly handheld, it's a beautiful upgrade

    • @LonghornsLegend
      @LonghornsLegend 2 роки тому +1

      I as the video states if you're using it handheld primary it's definitely worth it but a lot of people like to play docked on a nice tv so there's no reason to upgrade there. I only use it portable so I was hoping for 4k but this is a good upgrade

    • @desureaptitude168
      @desureaptitude168 2 роки тому +2

      Well, I’m set on getting one if I have enough money to get it on Amazon.

    • @goldfingerhardcore
      @goldfingerhardcore 2 роки тому

      I have the same impression. The screen makes such a big difference especially for me as I play 80% of the time in handheld mode.

  • @killermoon635
    @killermoon635 2 роки тому +221

    Another thing you forget is that they upgraded the storage inside from 32GB to 64GB in OLED version..... Still not enough for most people, but it is something worth mentioning

    • @AvaaSlays_Swiftie
      @AvaaSlays_Swiftie 2 роки тому +12

      Bought a 256 gig SD card on sale for 20 bucks. Shouldn’t be hard to upgrade storage. Plus who needs 8 games installed at once. I usually play 2-3 at a a time. Crazy people out here need terabytes worth of storage for 90% of games they won’t touch for awhile lol

    • @yandman26
      @yandman26 2 роки тому +6

      @@AvaaSlays_Swiftie I've got 750 gig of games

    • @nlikeflynn8837
      @nlikeflynn8837 2 роки тому +3

      Right?! There’s quite a lot of upgrades in this Switch for only $50 more. Glad to pick mine up on Friday!

    • @simlife445
      @simlife445 2 роки тому +3

      only for a fan boy games can be over 120GBs a terabye psy harddrive on sale is like 80 dollars... math... huh neat.. not for stupid ppl "a lot of upgrade" what lvl of math are u in that 32 gbs that is less then many many games is a lot ?

    • @no_misaki
      @no_misaki 2 роки тому +16

      @@AvaaSlays_Swiftie Because wasting time and bandwidth redownloading a game I already own sucks and shouldn't have to happen with only a handful of games installed. Flash storage isn't even expensive.

  • @nihren2406
    @nihren2406 2 роки тому +32

    I've been using my Switch on a 4K OLED TV. Granted, the size of the TV plus its somewhat lackluster upscaling makes Switch games look more aliased and stuff than they did on my old LED TV, but the contrast, the color is so much better so its something I've learned to live with. Having a Switch that can, in some respects, match my TV in portable mode, is fantastic even if it's not the "Super Nintendo Switch" that I wanted, but I'll probably get that eventually. So I bought a Switch OLED to replace my launch model, and I'm gonna give my launch model to a friend who doesn't have a Switch so he can finally enjoy all the great games it has to offer.

    • @smittyvanjagermanjenson182
      @smittyvanjagermanjenson182 2 роки тому

      I've just got the switch V2 and paired it with my Qled TV. It looked very washed out on breath of the wild, so I played with the picture settings. Upping the sharpness and color really helped it look less jaggy and more vibrant.

    • @armandarmi
      @armandarmi 2 роки тому

      @@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 the dock its more like a gimmick… sincerly ive tested games that i used to play on my series S and on the switch docked mode they are displayed at low quality settings:) the regula switch its made handled or tabletop and thats it if you want the games to look much better

    • @AAron2020xydfg
      @AAron2020xydfg 2 роки тому

      You could try the mclassic, it upsscales to 1440 or 4k.

    • @nihren2406
      @nihren2406 2 роки тому

      @@AAron2020xydfg I have one. It doesn't do 4K. It does up to 1440, which is nice, but the TV I had at the time did not have 1440p support so it didn't work. I just got a monitor that can do 1440p, but I have yet to test it.

    • @AAron2020xydfg
      @AAron2020xydfg 2 роки тому

      @@nihren2406 would be interested to know if you think it's worth getting a 1440 monitor I am thinking about doing the same, I'm happy with how it works on the ps2 and wii u but I only use it on a 1080 tv

  • @itcamefromabox
    @itcamefromabox 2 роки тому +617

    I can't wait for mine this Friday BUT I feel that Nintendo could HAVE simply replaced the base Switch model with this one and there'd be much less bad press over it 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

    • @erenyeeagah204
      @erenyeeagah204 2 роки тому +59

      I'm sure thats what they're gonna do eventually. They're could phase out the og switch and leave the switch oled and the lite version.

    • @itcamefromabox
      @itcamefromabox 2 роки тому +17

      @@erenyeeagah204 Yeah, i'm guessing this holiday season will test the waters as to how quickly they'll swap 'em out!

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 2 роки тому +15

      they wanna earn that extra cash sadly

    • @powerfulaura5166
      @powerfulaura5166 2 роки тому +46

      The $50 price increase is unconscionable when you consider Nintendo already makes ~$100 in profit on each hybrid Switch sold since the Mariko die shrink, & that the Steam Deck will be vastly more powerful (albeit w/ inferior display tech), flexible, & w/ a much larger game library for merely $50 more than the OLED's sore asking price. The OLED Switch should've been launched at $300, & the IPS hybrid & Lite Switches should've seen their first (long overdue, in the case of the hybrid) price cuts.

    • @robertschris82
      @robertschris82 2 роки тому +14

      Waste of money. Nintendo is dog water.

  • @TrueSonOfSkyrim
    @TrueSonOfSkyrim 2 роки тому +13

    The mention and look at the ps vita screen was greatly appreciated, I remember having a blast with that panel back in the day!

  • @anthonycastanon6281
    @anthonycastanon6281 2 роки тому +189

    DF has the best mix of technical analysis and user experience. Leagues better than other reviewers

    • @15coals39
      @15coals39 2 роки тому +1

      Literally excellence in motion

    • @kieran.grant_
      @kieran.grant_ 2 роки тому +7

      DF is one of those channels that feels so familiar when you find it, because it perfectly matches the content you wanted to see.

  • @saltychop9315
    @saltychop9315 2 роки тому +19

    I loved that they finally addressed the joycon rails. I felt that since day one of buying mine, and thats one of the reasons I don't play it portable as much, I just feel like I'm going to break it or something.

    • @SlingMeAWeb
      @SlingMeAWeb 2 роки тому +1

      The rails still aren't perfect on OLED and there is noticeable wobble.

  • @lakrakthewhitegoblin3881
    @lakrakthewhitegoblin3881 2 роки тому +184

    I think switch lite need this more than standard switch because lite focus on handheld mode

    • @titntin5178
      @titntin5178 2 роки тому +37

      it would have made sense - but when do Nintendo ever make sense? Its called switch, because you can 'switch' where you play it - except we will release a handheld only which you cant switch???

    • @tyguy3876
      @tyguy3876 2 роки тому +3

      Right trying to use the switch outdoors -- can't see shittttt

    • @cocobille
      @cocobille 2 роки тому +10

      I'll be surprised if there's no oled lite before the end of next year

    • @daviluppi9367
      @daviluppi9367 2 роки тому +14

      ​@@cocobille but the thing is that the Lite is a cheaper version of the switch, if they launch a Oled Lite it will probably be more expansive. Losing part of what made the people buy the Lite (of course, I'm putting apart that the lite has no drift, wich is actually what first made me bought it)

    • @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
      @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 2 роки тому +3

      @@daviluppi9367 would be cheaper... just not as cheap as now...

  • @ArchThaBoss
    @ArchThaBoss 2 роки тому +245

    “You see the original kickstand on switch is, quite frankly, terrible” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @battyflaps5410
      @battyflaps5410 2 роки тому +7

      I would agree i was struggling to watch youtube in bed this morning because the kickstand just closed and other times came off. just annoying af

    • @jaredhayslip8014
      @jaredhayslip8014 2 роки тому +1

      Nintendo Had To Start Somewhere From A kick Stand To A More Firmer Kick Stand.

    • @vendettaworldwide6134
      @vendettaworldwide6134 2 роки тому

      @@jaredhayslip8014 exactly

    • @humblegrind8
      @humblegrind8 2 роки тому

      @@jaredhayslip8014 They could've done better

    • @mrmacross
      @mrmacross 2 роки тому +1

      @@jaredhayslip8014 They had the MS Surface kickstand template available for inspiration long before the original Switch shipped. I defend a lot of Nintendo's decisions, including the minor-upgrade OLED model, but the original kickstand is not defensible.

  • @velosiped135
    @velosiped135 2 роки тому +13

    The Nintendo Switch was kind of a surprise for me and has become my favorite console in generations, so for me, it makes sense to upgrade to the very best experience. I'm glad to hear it has a more premium look and feel. This will be the 7th Switch I've purchased for myself and family/friends.

  • @dcashley303
    @dcashley303 2 роки тому +104

    Wow, Streets of Rage 4 looks insane on that display, even through a camera and then my computer's display. Looks great. Can't wait to see it in person.

    • @Charlymander
      @Charlymander 2 роки тому +6

      It's impossible to see the real difference on a video...your screen will mess up the colors and black levels before you see. And Oled does look great in person

    • @dcashley303
      @dcashley303 2 роки тому +7

      @@Charlymander I have no doubt it looks weird in video but I can already tell its miles better. Have held out on getting a Switch, may have to get this Oled version.

    • @robertlawrence9000
      @robertlawrence9000 2 роки тому +3

      Streets of Rage 4 is trash and not a real Streets of Rage game. They fucked it up badly

    • @dcashley303
      @dcashley303 2 роки тому +12

      @@robertlawrence9000 off topic but okay! I think most people enjoyed the game, but I guess not everyone. At least the originals aren't going anywhere.

    • @joejoe2658
      @joejoe2658 2 роки тому

      @@robertlawrence9000 3 was already the runt of the litter...

  • @cyrilc4858
    @cyrilc4858 2 роки тому +8

    The video is great as usual. There’s something missing in this review though, and nobody seems to talk about it: the lower input lag on the OLED model. Another take on this from Digital Foundry would be awesome!

  • @Hmbs271
    @Hmbs271 2 роки тому +4

    Great in depth review and very helpful! I would've liked to hear more about the increased perceived judder in 30 fps games due to the instantaneous pixel response of OLED displays. This has been a very common complaint online for years regarding OLEDs. I figure that the inherent ghosting in LCDs is sort of beneficial to 30 fps games, which are quite common on the Switch, no matter good or bad frame pacing.
    I'm glad that 60 fps games have more clarity in motion like Sonic Mania 11:00. That's a title I would have tested myself for this. I personally have to use BFI on modern displays to enjoy playing that one, though.
    Would love to see someone like BlurBusters make an indepth analysis on this. Heck a collaboration with DF would be awesome since you both have much of the same interests. Especially John and his obsession with CRTs.

  • @testaccount4191
    @testaccount4191 2 роки тому +4

    I always loved the images you got from CRT monitor, i had one of the last high refresh-rate HD ones which looked as good as any OLED panel. I feel that important to mention a lot of early 2000s games where designed to run on them and do look significantly better then if it is run on monitors now.

  • @Zachruff
    @Zachruff 2 роки тому +62

    ok stronger joycon rails are a huge thing, my current switch just feels sad and flimsy in handheld mode

    • @gamble777888
      @gamble777888 2 роки тому

      The left Joy Con rail on my tablet has stopped working correctly as it will occasionally disconnect controller randomly... tested several different controllers with same result so gotta be the rail on the tablet. I swear I've had to do more fixes and maintenance on my switch and Joy Cons than any other piece of hardware I've ever owned. Already switched out both joysticks on either joy-con twice, had to install new locks on one of the cons and now the rail on the tablet.

    • @joseabraham777
      @joseabraham777 2 роки тому +2

      I try to almost never pull out the joycons to prevent the movement.

    • @lapis591
      @lapis591 2 роки тому +2

      The rails on the new Switch OLED are far superior, although I noticed there is some variability between individual units.

    • @Zachruff
      @Zachruff 2 роки тому

      @@lapis591 Nice to hear that they're better in general. I haven't had the chance to try yet cuz Im still being a fool holding out for the switch pro lol

  • @strawberry-vx1px
    @strawberry-vx1px 2 роки тому +12

    For those who play handheld more than docked with tv....
    The OLED version is VERY beautiful!!
    Sold my old Switch, so it was a hundred dollar upgrade. Worth every penny!!
    The bigger screen, and white joycons, just give everything a better look. It's really inviting to play. Love, love, love it!
    The games look delicious on it (lol)...:)

  • @drizztstorm4715
    @drizztstorm4715 2 роки тому +6

    Love the depth of the review. Can't wait for Friday!

  • @Neothemod
    @Neothemod 2 роки тому +82

    honestly really wished they did this with the switch lite instead of just a full sized switch revision :/

    • @JFinns
      @JFinns 2 роки тому +8

      And added video out.

    • @orlandomota6685
      @orlandomota6685 2 роки тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing. I love my switch lite! I hardly ever use my OG switch lol

    • @Hathos9
      @Hathos9 2 роки тому +3

      @@JFinns Isn't video out on a Switch Lite just a Switch?

    • @clementrousseau3571
      @clementrousseau3571 2 роки тому +3

      Same. Can’t really go back to the older form factor in handheld now that I’ve used the Lite for months. So I’ll pass on this one and hopefully an OLED revision of the Lite will pop up soon

    • @Drstrange3000
      @Drstrange3000 2 роки тому +1

      That would definitely sell me. I have a regular Switch and although I really love the upgrades, it feels silly to pay for basically the same thing. The Switch Lite would make more sense and it could be in a smaller form factor but have the same screen size with even smaller bezels. It could add HD rumble as well as a better ergonomics for the controls. Add in an internet browser, customizable backgrounds, In system party chat and messaging, 64gb of internal storage, 5G option, Game Pass support, and Dolby atmos for around $300 would be a nice sell.

  • @bigoldstinkycrab
    @bigoldstinkycrab 2 роки тому +17

    Wow, 2021 and I'd totally forgotten about Indiglo. Had that on my old watch as a youngster.

  • @shinsharonelectrons
    @shinsharonelectrons 2 роки тому +180

    It does seem like a bit more of a treat than I expected. Still hoping that one day I'll be able to have a nice OLED in a stronger system that will keep games at their ideal resolution and framerate though.

    • @timholloway8821
      @timholloway8821 2 роки тому +1

      Couple years the prices should come down I hope.

    • @MegaFinalRound
      @MegaFinalRound 2 роки тому +8

      @@timholloway8821 2025 the chip issue should be resolved 👀

    • @ryanm2084
      @ryanm2084 2 роки тому +9

      @@MegaFinalRound after biden is out? Thank goodness...

    • @valexcx
      @valexcx 2 роки тому +10

      @@ryanm2084 bruh what? 😭

    • @denisn8336
      @denisn8336 2 роки тому +4

      @@ryanm2084 hopefully

  • @NeonBeetroot
    @NeonBeetroot 2 роки тому +8

    Got mine coming next week! I only play in handheld so this is really nice upgrade!

  • @rcg38
    @rcg38 2 роки тому +9

    I think that is awesome that it is an improvement on even the Vita’s display which isn’t too surprising considering how much newer the switch oled is. That said I am more likely to just get an oled tv so that all of my game systems including switch in docked mode can look better consider how most of the time I dont play on handheld

  • @TerminatorJuice
    @TerminatorJuice 2 роки тому +7

    As a fellow OLED enthusiast I have to say very good review John! I am a little surprised that a DF review didn't go a bit more in-depth tho... I would have loved to know if the changes to the dock has had any impact on the temp of the Switch and fan noise while running demanding game in docked mode. Maybe a follow up video or a something to bring up on the next DF Direct??? Cheers!

  • @jon4715
    @jon4715 2 роки тому +6

    Did you test for PWM flicker? This is a major review point for any display technology, but especially important for a lot of users/gamers.

  • @lebavu8260
    @lebavu8260 Рік тому +4

    I bought switch lite first and was perfectly happy with the display since I mostly play while working in darker room. So I never pulled the trigger on the switch Oled when it came out because I’d figure if I want play serious gaming session then I would be hooking up my Oled lg c2 tv anyways. But pulled the trigger when the switch Oled TOTK version came out and now I actually prefer to play the switch Oled over my lg Oled because the switch Oled great size and weight for my casual gaming while working. And also my eyes get so tired working on monitor all day that when my shift ends I just want to rest and the switch Oled definitely made gaming after work more enjoyable

  • @Lumilicious
    @Lumilicious 2 роки тому +54

    I See this as a sneak peak at a Switch 2. OLED and more premium build is what I wanna see going forward.

    • @XZ-III
      @XZ-III 2 роки тому +1

      that sounds like a waste hate to say

    • @noahsabadish3812
      @noahsabadish3812 2 роки тому +9

      here here. imagining a Switch 2.0 with the same display (maybe increased to 1080p) and beefier internals. battery improvements for lower-cost games and big performance improvements elsewhere

    • @coliander4180
      @coliander4180 2 роки тому +5

      *peek

    • @Rogarcai
      @Rogarcai 2 роки тому +3

      Don't do that, don't give me hope.

    • @aoikemono6414
      @aoikemono6414 2 роки тому +7

      How about a modern CPU/GPU? The Tegra X1 was already outdated because the design cycle and lead time was so long. I wonder how many years it took to design that flimsy kickstand! If you are gonna design something that lasts for at least the next six or seven years, wouldn't you want at least the best on the market? When an average smartphone in 2017 has the same performance but is even more energy efficient and was never designed specifically for gaming, nor is it the size of a thick tablet, it's kind of a disgrace for Nintendo, which continues it's trend of woefully underpowered hardware. They don't have to be the absolute best. They just have to be reasonably comeptitive, but they never are. Other than first-party games heavily optimized with cel-shaded or simplistic designs, everything else still looks like ass, and frequently sub-720p at that. Even then, with an open world game like Zelda BotW, it constantly freezes and glitches out. Many of the speedrunning tricks done in the game involve abusing the limited Switch hardware.

  • @gardhul
    @gardhul 2 роки тому +49

    As usual, an extremely detailed and deep analysis from DF. I was waiting for it! Thank you!

  • @thenostalgiafactor5023
    @thenostalgiafactor5023 2 роки тому +63

    I play my Switch docked 98% of the time so this model does nothing for me. I'll wait for the eventual Switch Pro or next gen Switch 2 (or whatever) if I need an upgrade.

    • @CubamusPrime
      @CubamusPrime 2 роки тому

      Me too. Playing portable mode is so uncomfortable for me

    • @ithiriafalls
      @ithiriafalls 2 роки тому

      By that time hopefully Metroid Prime 4 will finally be released........maybe😒. Well, can't complain too much, dread will be a decent appetizer till then😏.

    • @corgikun2579
      @corgikun2579 2 роки тому

      @@CubamusPrime I agree is uncomfortable to play. However, I got a skull case with grips and it's night and day. Watch some reviews and maybe you'll be interested in one

    • @lapis591
      @lapis591 2 роки тому

      You're not getting a 'Switch Pro' considering the Switch is already a Wii U Pro. You will, however, be getting a Switch successor, though whether that will play Switch games with a performance boost or even play them at all remains to be seen. Don't get your hopes up.

  • @ABooshCamper
    @ABooshCamper 2 роки тому +4

    Yay! An actual more technical oriented review!

  • @Carmelox_LR
    @Carmelox_LR 2 роки тому +2

    Very good video, explained with a calm voice, thorough and professional review.
    Thumbs up.

    • @XZ-III
      @XZ-III 2 роки тому

      tf is this? a teacher grading an assignment?

  • @megabyte01
    @megabyte01 2 роки тому +27

    Random question: what is that visual novel that we occasionally see in the review? Is it Famicom Detective?

    • @LoliconSamalik
      @LoliconSamalik 2 роки тому +3

      Definately not. FamiClub goes for a slightly more "realistic" artstyle. The art is more on the kawaii/moé side of things, making me curious what it is as well.

    • @mememan8243
      @mememan8243 2 роки тому +17

      It's Root Double. It's a very good VN.

    • @megabyte01
      @megabyte01 2 роки тому +3

      @@mememan8243 Got it. Thanks for the clarification!

  • @JKSmith-qs2ii
    @JKSmith-qs2ii 2 роки тому +63

    Mine has never left the dock since launch 2017 and is plugged into a LG OLED tv so I would have liked a higher resolution that a pro could offer (or switch 2).

    • @DiePoente
      @DiePoente 2 роки тому +6

      official Switch successor is perhaps coming 2024 but a Switch Pro we might get next or one year after next. After doing New 3DS to 3DS and DSi to DS, they will probably do it. Just don't believe any stupid rumours. People just hype themselves up and then get mad when it turns out to be not true.

    • @JKSmith-qs2ii
      @JKSmith-qs2ii 2 роки тому +7

      @@DiePoente I do also think it is a little early for a successor. That bloomberg report definitely has some truth to it I believe though. Nintendo just denies it so the interest for the OLED model doesn't drop.

    • @lemmy154
      @lemmy154 2 роки тому +1

      Dude this is not a switch pro or whatever else

    • @corgikun2579
      @corgikun2579 2 роки тому

      @@lemmy154 what are you talking about? they're talking about something else

    • @BlkMac360
      @BlkMac360 2 роки тому +2

      I have an LG OLED too but games look like shit when docked no matter the TV.

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 2 роки тому +8

    I think I might get one of these. I play in handheld way more than docked so I’m definitely the target audience for this.

    • @smittyvanjagermanjenson182
      @smittyvanjagermanjenson182 2 роки тому

      As nice as it looked in person, I'm patient. When a new model can offer the performance to match the screen I'll throw Nintendo some more cash. Not asking for 60fps on everything, just more overall stability. Locked 30, with maybe a few more polygons on screen in bigger titles. I'm happy with the switch V2 until then.

  • @mrlozanoo
    @mrlozanoo 2 роки тому +1

    Getting mine this friday, thank you so much for your work!! =)

  • @pvtcmyers87
    @pvtcmyers87 2 роки тому

    Awesome review John. Thank you for the great job.

  • @babylonian
    @babylonian 2 роки тому +16

    3:28 Hell Yeah Super Monkey Ball

  • @shothanshao7266
    @shothanshao7266 2 роки тому +32

    I have to say... the display of the new Switch looks so much better than the old one... on my IPS Monitor.

    • @glow4417
      @glow4417 2 роки тому +1

      Lol, and in person it's like looking at neon colors compared to pastel colors. That's the best to explain it. It's like the oled colors glow and the regular ips colors are dim and dull.

  • @Nolasco.
    @Nolasco. 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the Review John, very informative 💕

  • @scottw4866
    @scottw4866 2 роки тому

    Great video and has me looking forward to getting mine even more. going back through all my current library of games is something I'm looking forward to doing. Got to wait though until 13th for mine according to amazon :(

  • @anasshahid224
    @anasshahid224 Рік тому +3

    The Switch OLED model is amazing, loving it 👏👏👏👏

  • @gbbenner9382
    @gbbenner9382 2 роки тому +75

    Stunning display, too bad I mostly place on docked mode.

    • @d34th6un3
      @d34th6un3 2 роки тому +15

      Right and i play dock on an LG C9 which is and OLED lol…so I’ve been getting that experience

    • @bradshank2186
      @bradshank2186 2 роки тому +2

      @@d34th6un3 no, you haven’t

    • @d34th6un3
      @d34th6un3 2 роки тому +1

      @@michellexox4843 no, not true. It negates the Upscaling yeah but things like OLED true darks aren’t processed by the display. The display gets the color ranges in a sense and choose to turn that pixel on or off or to display the color info

    • @d34th6un3
      @d34th6un3 2 роки тому +11

      @@bradshank2186 I’m pretty sure I’ve had my LG C9 since 2019 🤔

    • @115zombies935
      @115zombies935 2 роки тому +2

      @@michellexox4843 Nope

  • @captainzib
    @captainzib 2 роки тому

    I love that agetec Dreamcast arcade stick in the background. Still got mine as well.

  • @skybluerob1
    @skybluerob1 2 роки тому

    Great review, really in depth, my favourite switch OLED review so far.

  • @battyflaps5410
    @battyflaps5410 2 роки тому +4

    i had it pre ordered, i received it like 2 days after it released the oled is so nice, honestly as some one who plays mostly in handheld my god its good. Even games like breath of the wild is just nicer with the size increase. I use a tablet holder that has a clamp to the desk so i can play it on handheld while i watch videos on pc.. Its a great experience.. Colours are amazing too. Don't even need to crank up the brightness on it for it to look awesome either.

  • @martinschnabel1961
    @martinschnabel1961 2 роки тому +4

    This was the best Switch oled review I've seen so far. Thank you, well done

  • @robertisaac4950
    @robertisaac4950 2 роки тому

    Best most in-depth review I’ve see. Exactly what I was looking for

  • @fabian220414
    @fabian220414 2 роки тому +1

    thanks , what a great review, yeah I love playing on portable handheld mode, is has its own magic like this, and now with the new oled panel, for sure it is worth the upgrade ..... it would be nice comparing oled tv image vs oled display panel ....

  • @oaktoro
    @oaktoro 2 роки тому +3

    Copped one after waiting years for a switch, im glad i waited because the OLED model had me hype to get back into the world of Nintendo.

  • @Varfair
    @Varfair 2 роки тому +65

    While I appreciate the upgrade of screen, stand and such, I feel that this is how the Switch should have released in the first place.
    I won't upgrade my Switch until one releases that can play most games at a better resolution and framerate.

    • @jackm4536
      @jackm4536 2 роки тому +4

      Higher resolution just means more power drain and more money to cough up. It really isn't necessary honestly all they need is more frames

    • @estyhugo
      @estyhugo 2 роки тому +9

      @@jackm4536 Thats why people were hoping for a switch pro with DLSS.

    • @motomasterx5824
      @motomasterx5824 2 роки тому +23

      @@jackm4536 A more modern chip made on a smaller process node could pack more computing power while using the same or even less power. The Tegra X1 was outdated at launch, now it’s basically ancient tech

    • @HondoJarrus
      @HondoJarrus 2 роки тому

      @@motomasterx5824 I agree, though this OLED Switch is enough of a physical revision that I think Nintendo would have preferred a new chip but was forced to continue with the Tegra X1 due to the chip shortage.

    • @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
      @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 2 роки тому

      Hindsight.... and an healthy uptake in sales make a big difference in updated console tech...

  • @sonneblendet1140
    @sonneblendet1140 2 роки тому +2

    Can you see if there are improvements of wireless Lan?
    We had great problems playing Mario cart home circuit because the wireless Lan limited the range dramatically.
    Was this improved maybe?

  • @gamingwithdummies3960
    @gamingwithdummies3960 2 роки тому +1

    Another great video John!

  • @capsel22
    @capsel22 2 роки тому +3

    Great video. Shame no mention on battery life.

  • @Zenzuu
    @Zenzuu 2 роки тому +12

    Just goes to show how good the Vita really is. Although it's old and uses older OLED display. In John's word it's still equivalent to today's high end plasma TV. Which is amazing for a handheld that came out 10 years ago.

    • @BaconTopHat45
      @BaconTopHat45 2 роки тому +3

      It's not as impressive as you make it sound because there is no "today's high end plasma TV", they stopped making them almost 10 years ago.
      Of course the new high-end display tech is at least as good as the one discontinued around the same time it came out.

  • @TFx2TV
    @TFx2TV 2 роки тому

    Love the background music in this one mate keep it up

  • @onlyamatteroftime1843
    @onlyamatteroftime1843 2 роки тому

    I love this guys face its like when you take all the skyrims create a characters face points either all the way up or down someone took his eye corners and dropped them all da way fookin diagonal i love it!

  • @WickedRibbon
    @WickedRibbon 2 роки тому +36

    The OLED looks sick, but it's an expensive upgrade from something like the Switch Lite. The value of that system is hard to beat.

    • @startedtech
      @startedtech 2 роки тому +6

      I bought a switch lite but ended up selling it after a couple months. Part of the reason was the screen quality was just bad. I can't justify the price of the OLED model though at all.

    • @MyKillyy
      @MyKillyy 2 роки тому +2

      No value for me since I'm interested in docking mode here and there

    • @nathansstuff1547
      @nathansstuff1547 2 роки тому

      @@startedtech Screen quality was bad? How so?

  • @VulturePilot
    @VulturePilot 2 роки тому +8

    My launch day switch still going strong, people who say theirs is breaking and falling apart must not take care of their electronics

    • @VulturePilot
      @VulturePilot 2 роки тому +1

      @Dr. Hibbs literally look at some of the comments here even

    • @KarlDelaney99
      @KarlDelaney99 2 роки тому +1

      I know people who had stick drift after less than two weeks?

    • @mrpiratefox4497
      @mrpiratefox4497 2 роки тому

      @@KarlDelaney99 some came with drift out of the box lmao

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 2 роки тому +1

      @@VulturePilot Some of the commenters here are quite salty about Nintendo's success with the Switch. Sour grapes are sour.

    • @KarlDelaney99
      @KarlDelaney99 2 роки тому +1

      @@joesterling4299 That's fine, when you buy a product and it comes to you broken don't complain. Keep licking corporates hole, oh is that your ass Nintendo? Closer to the hole sir.

  • @Indead
    @Indead 2 роки тому +1

    Using the WiiU Viewing Cradle to stand up the VITA, haha, I love it.

  • @Samus2400
    @Samus2400 2 роки тому

    Great Video, but i love the background music around 8:40

  • @lanarkorras4411
    @lanarkorras4411 2 роки тому +42

    "Doom 3 is a game that absolutely shines on an OLED screen." Not sure that was the right choice of words there. 😂

    • @argo117007
      @argo117007 2 роки тому +1

      Seems fine to me

    • @ununbeliebt
      @ununbeliebt 2 роки тому +2

      @@servantbyday yeah like "wooooooooosh"

  • @joesterling4299
    @joesterling4299 2 роки тому +9

    Great tech review, as always. Thank you. I must point out that you missed the doubling of internal storage, from 32 GB to 64 GB. Given that about 8 GB is never accessible to the user, that's actually quite a bump in game-install space in the best memory.

    • @N.i.E.M.O
      @N.i.E.M.O 2 роки тому +2

      Now you can actually have enough space to download one full typical 3rd party game.

  • @Leonheart18
    @Leonheart18 2 роки тому

    Hi John ! First I really liked this review, you really give us a lot of details and comparisons there, very interesting ! I still have one question in mind though ! Maybe you didn't mention because there is no change on this regard, it's about the temperatures, is it the same or do you feel like the Switch Oled is a tad bit cooler ?

  • @AldenBunagCDAD
    @AldenBunagCDAD 2 роки тому

    Now that I've been working more at the school I teach at and have a PS5, I've been playing my Switch in handheld mode FAR more, especially when I'm playing games with my assistants so the larger, brighter, more vibrant screen is a definite selling point.

  • @TheMiddleman1997
    @TheMiddleman1997 2 роки тому +28

    I feel like the addition of the OLED model makes the choice for a definitive portable switch a bit confusing. The new display looks gorgeous, but I much prefer the Lite's unibody design and dpad. I almost wish there was a switch lite OLED, but I can understand why having 4 switch models isn't really practical.

    • @chatdos9
      @chatdos9 2 роки тому +7

      Remember the 3ds with 6 models.

    • @eskimofo9i6
      @eskimofo9i6 2 роки тому

      Yes the switch lite w OLED makes the most sense!

    • @pipgoesthepossum
      @pipgoesthepossum 2 роки тому

      Agree.

    • @taptoplayde
      @taptoplayde 2 роки тому

      We need a Switch Lite with OLED display and two USB-C ports, one for power, one for the external display.

    • @edismehmedali4666
      @edismehmedali4666 2 роки тому +1

      There wouldn't be 4 models though. They are 100% going to phase out the base lcd switch, that's why they lowered the price, to clear the remaining stock. Once the remaining stock is gone there will only be switch lite and switch oled

  • @misaeltoral508
    @misaeltoral508 2 роки тому +3

    Can you attach other controllers like the HORI ones?

  • @motomasterx5824
    @motomasterx5824 2 роки тому +1

    I have an original Switch and had no intention of upgrading to the OLED. That is until I saw one in person on display at my local GameStop. Ordered one first time they became available, can’t wait for it!

  • @Bobi816
    @Bobi816 2 роки тому

    Excellently thorough review. Well done

  • @Dr.Strangelewd
    @Dr.Strangelewd 2 роки тому +19

    Now we can enjoy 720p graphics with zero antialiasing on slightly bigger screen, neat.

    • @ImGonnaFudgeThatFish
      @ImGonnaFudgeThatFish 2 роки тому +2

      *at struggling framerates sometimes far below 720p

    • @SystemBD
      @SystemBD 2 роки тому +3

      "If you stare into the pixel, the pixel stares back at you". Back in my day, we were happy to have 320x240 images with 256 colors, in much bigger (and unintentionally curved) monitors.

    • @repeekyraidcero
      @repeekyraidcero 2 роки тому +2

      Just take off your glasses

    • @RayVa0
      @RayVa0 2 роки тому +1

      @@repeekyraidcero glad I am not the only one using MAA(myopia anti aliasing)

  • @ihaveallthecoins2785
    @ihaveallthecoins2785 2 роки тому +4

    It would be amazing to be able to watch some Netflix on this new screen.

  • @jesserogalski1402
    @jesserogalski1402 2 роки тому +1

    Burn in depends on the screen. I have an LG, and have games for over 10 hours at a time, static images like the UI on screen, and have had no issues in the year and a half that I had it.
    I use the pixel refresher once in a while to be safe, but I don't think even that's needed.

  • @Galottiful
    @Galottiful 2 роки тому

    Nothing but love for digital foundry. You guys work hard

  • @sergeleon1163
    @sergeleon1163 2 роки тому +10

    I wonder if they would update the Switch Lite to an OLED model as well, specially as handheld only model it would make sense.

  • @phrozac
    @phrozac 2 роки тому +3

    Decent update though I'll wait for the inevitable successor in a year or two. In the meantime, I have my Switch Lite and got a reservation for the Deck, Chad model.

    • @abukh86
      @abukh86 2 роки тому +1

      "Chad model" xD

  • @AkiKimurr
    @AkiKimurr 2 роки тому

    Great video. It would've been great if you could check PWM of the OLED screen as well.

  • @The-Fishkeeper
    @The-Fishkeeper 2 роки тому +1

    I would love one of these. Ever since I got my OLED television, I've found it very jarring when switching from docked to the native LCD.

  • @noahsabadish3812
    @noahsabadish3812 2 роки тому +9

    John, this review of the OLED model is the first I watched, and it was the only one I needed to. As always, your work is comprehensive, well organized, and warmly presented. Looking forward to playing DREAD and others on this bad boy.

  • @casdf7
    @casdf7 2 роки тому +4

    damn metroid dread is beautiful...
    and I'm way too unreasonably hyped for the oled switch although I'm perfectly fine with my OG model.
    Kinda understand everyone who wants that thing

    • @tomacandelara
      @tomacandelara 2 роки тому +1

      Just sold my original for $250 and I’d say it’s ABSOLUTELY worth a $100 upcharge for it

  • @robinrai4973
    @robinrai4973 2 роки тому +1

    A couple questions, is the OLED screen laminated to the plastic/glass surface? The original's isn't (worse image but I like the durable design decision). And is the dock interchangeable with the original dock?

    • @willwunsche6940
      @willwunsche6940 Рік тому

      I know this is really late but I am pretty sure the docks are interchangeable

  • @AmirGameShow
    @AmirGameShow 2 роки тому

    and yet Again another great analysis from John.

  • @suhdude9568
    @suhdude9568 2 роки тому +4

    Might have missed it, but how is the battery life. Better, the same, or worse?

    • @Link0710
      @Link0710 2 роки тому

      Yeah I'm curious. Is it the old battery or the new battery or a newer one? I need to know how long it lasts

    • @ayushsinghchauhan9558
      @ayushsinghchauhan9558 2 роки тому

      That's digital foundry for ya🤷🏻

  • @teeq985
    @teeq985 2 роки тому +3

    Should have been this version when it first launched. The incremental polishing of the unit is similar in the way games are released in a rush and then patched later. It is near enough the same price since day one 2017, did it really take 4 years for a revised kickstand, lan port in the dock, and an oled panel?

    • @Nathancl22
      @Nathancl22 2 роки тому

      You dummy that's like saying they should have never come out with the ps1 should have just made the ps5 from Day 1 smh.

    • @Zveebo
      @Zveebo 2 роки тому +2

      The original GameBoy should have been the Switch when it first came out 🙄 People are so dumb. The original Switch is one of the best selling consoles of all time - it clearly did the job from the start. Component prices have come down, and Nintendo is charging more for this - that’s the reason it’s now where it is.

    • @teeq985
      @teeq985 2 роки тому +2

      @@Zveebo It still is the same console revised twice with very minimal upgrades that do not warrant the same price with QoL upgrades which everyone wanted from the start over the span of a 4 year period. To say the switch should have been the original gameboy is complete nonsense.

  • @marioe.4400
    @marioe.4400 2 роки тому +1

    7:41 - Perfectly synced to the commentary.

  • @sarahpod
    @sarahpod 2 роки тому

    Great video, however, I haven't heard anybody mentioning the battery. Does the battery drain quicker with the new screen?

  • @TruExtentChannel
    @TruExtentChannel 2 роки тому +11

    12:25 In regards to the border with the controls, Nintendo has already updated this. About two years ago, both the NES and SNES were given a new option in the Settings menu on the main menu. Under all the display types is a "Show controls in game" box. Untick the box and you'll be good to go.

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 2 роки тому

      He was also talking about the horrible borders we have to deal with, instead of having full black borders. It's a terrible idea and i'm sad we still don't have the option to get full black borders

  • @MrAmjak
    @MrAmjak 2 роки тому +5

    I play my old switch connected to my oled tv. Hmm to much money for a tablet with joycons and a 5 year old soc.
    But hey I love Nintendo Games,
    I associate them with too much nostalgia.
    I can't wait to play Metroid Dread

  • @nickdude07
    @nickdude07 2 роки тому +2

    Great review as always John, but why do no reviews mention the huge upgrade from 32GB internal storage to 64GB? This is huge as the OS and reserve space meant that only 24.6 was available to the user. And with games like NBA2K taking 5GB per save, this critical storage is the only location save files can be stored locally.

    • @N.i.E.M.O
      @N.i.E.M.O 2 роки тому +2

      64 GB is still pathetic in 2021. It would have been pathetic ten years ago too. I mean, I guess it's still surprising Nintendo bothered making any improvement at all - no mater how small it is.

    • @nickdude07
      @nickdude07 2 роки тому

      @@N.i.E.M.O I agree that 64GB is not much, and really with additional MicroSD storage this is a small concern. But with Nintendo's current save data restriction not allowing saves on MicroSD cards this is the only location for local save data. For security and piracy concerns I don't see Nintendo changing this anytime soon. And where I had mentioned that 32GB only allows for 26GB for user data, having 64GB gives a lot of breathing room for those of us with a NBA 2K 5GB save or two, plus a large library of other smaller save files. So while it doesn't create a need for most to sell their current Switch, its a big upgrade for user saves.

  • @flyingplantwhale545
    @flyingplantwhale545 2 роки тому

    I kinda expected you guys to talk about the thermal readings of the console aswell. Since the heat-pipe, air intakes and the dock design are somewhat different.

  • @thanksbetotap
    @thanksbetotap 2 роки тому +3

    Pro tip: Keep the colors in Natural mode, because Vivid absolutely destroys the accuracy.

  • @BomboFeca
    @BomboFeca 2 роки тому +4

    Great video. Me personally I loved the Oled version. Now I own the Lite, the OG and the Oled version, so believe me when I say, theres no way back once you play on the Oled. Smash ultimate looks wonderful, the colors look so clean, vibrant, luminous, and the screen is huge... Also Metroid dread has given me great expiriencie.

  • @Zenkoto
    @Zenkoto 2 роки тому

    How does the speed of the built-in LAN port in the new Nintendo Switch dock compare to a USB 3.0 LAN adapter being used with the old Nintendo Switch dock?

  • @valhakun
    @valhakun 2 роки тому

    So happy to see they didn't use a pentile pixel layout panel. That was my biggest worry.

  • @ShadowLady1
    @ShadowLady1 2 роки тому +7

    Need a DF Retro on the Vita now

  • @jimmedia10
    @jimmedia10 2 роки тому +23

    This is why I love Digital Foundry. They don't just parrot everyone else -they say exactly how it is.

  • @MadaoAU
    @MadaoAU 2 роки тому

    Opinions on screen ? should i get a tempered glass to avoid scratches ?
    not sure if the dock fixed the issue a bit better.

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    Love the C64 chiptune intro.