USB 2.0 limit is 480 Mega **BITS** per second, once you discount framing and packetization overloads, it's more like 48-50 Mega **BYTES** per second, on top of that you'll have "losses" when wrapping the ethernet packets, that will introduce their own overheads (control fields and so)... . Great channel, keep on it.
Ok... Sure... But he consistently said bytes when he meant bits. The speeds on screen are labeled Mbps so that's supposed to be bits and he said bytes, and he mentioned his internet speed is 1000 Mega Bytes but I don't think anyone offers that as an option, I'm pretty sure he means 1000 Mbps, and yes he said 480 Mega Bytes and meant Mega bits.
There's really no point here other than a correction, as the speeds given in the speed test are in megabits, not bytes like you say. So 70 odd megabits per second. In his narration he basically called it all bytes, but it makes no difference here to the message unless it was in fact 70 megabytes.
As a launch Switch owner, the Switch OLED is definitely a case of want and not need. Since I also primarily play docked I think I’ll pass and instead invest in a OLED TV.
to me its not worth it at all if you already have a switch, the panel might have nice colors but its pixel layout is different and it has less subpixels so its technically less resolution than the old ones, so its an upgrade in color but a downgrade in clarity. Not worth any amount of money if you ask me. The kickstand is the only thing going for it atm. It would be much better to wait another 2 years until they are forced to released an upgraded revision due to new games not being capable of running on the current hardware.
I had a launch edition switch and happily bought OLED since I play primarily handheld and the bigger screen, better colors and battery life have been worth it for me. Absolutely loving it so far.
@@drudigger I agree totally how could you just bring out a oled display on a obsolete chips. Set, why didn’t they just upgrade the dang thing Only Nintendo can getaway with these type of thing if this was Microsoft or Sony they would get flame for it ..
For me personally, the OLED screen was absolutely enough reason to upgrade (that, and the kick stand). It just feels… right? Like my old switch looks awful in comparison to it now. The screen size is fantastic and visually games look markedly better and it’s made me want to actually play switch games again.
what you're arguing is that a minor upgrade to what's supposed to be half of your switch experience justifies buying an entirely new version, despite there being no overclock/higher clock on any of the hardware, or any changes to the hardware period apart from 64GB of base storage. it's quite weak an argument and i personally don't think that it's justified paying $50 more than the og RRP lmao (Edit: forgot to mention that in portable mode, it still runs at 720p. which is quite disappointing)
I think that it's pathetic that stick-drifting roughly 23 years after the release of the Dreamcast, with it's _bullet-proof_ hall-effect based analog-sticks (and triggers) is still a major issue.
I totally agree, I have: a ps vita, ds lite, 3ds xl, wii u with game pad, many systems that use a controller and NONE of those have ever had drifting issues with the analog sticks so the switch is the only console I’ve had that has drift issues, really shows how badly made and unreliable those small sticks are
@@Sashko_Dee to be fair a Nintendo gameboy survived a bomb blast, Nintendo used to take their durability game seriously but nowadays that doesn’t seem to be the case
I will get one eventually, I can sell my Switch for $300+ still because it's unpatched which has a demand for it. So $50+tax upgrade for the new one? Sure not a big deal.
I still hope Nintendo will one day make a permanently docked version with gigabit ethernet, the pro controller, and 4k compatibility, not holding my breath though.
Quite frankly, as much as an OLED screen is much better, I don't think it's worth it. If you don't have a Switch yet, I still think it's better to pay cheaper on Lite (if you play first in portable mode) or on the normal model since there is no difference in games and the hardware is exactly the same. If you already have a Switch, would you really pay $350 for a model that has exactly the same hardware as the console you already own? (And worse, if you play first in the dock you won't have any difference and if you play first in portable mode, it's no longer worth getting a Switch Lite which is cheaper and more ''portable'' since it's smaller and easier to take anywhere and have a d-pad ? ), in my opinion it's even more worthwhile to buy a Steam Deck since it's only $50 more and besides having a much more powerful hardware, it's capable of running games that the Switch doesn't can rotate. ( Aside from some games that run at 30fps on Switch that can be played at 60fps on Steam Deck like Doom Eternal not to mention games that run on Cloud on Switch but natively on Steam Deck like Control )
I am considering getting the OLED Switch, just because I have a launch switch, and I would benefit from both the OLED screen and the increased battery that the 1.1 versions got
I'm going to say this again, I really wish that Nintendo just upgraded the switch lite with an OLED screen. You don't dock that console, it's always portable, it makes the MOST sense to have. Specially with that smaller bezel, and on a smaller device, it would make it look like a modern piece of tech. Anyway, no it's not worth 350.
No way . If I want that small of a screen ilk stick to my 2dsxl. I love the 2 screen idea anyways. Now I could see them adding a oled lite in the future . But I'm so thankful they didn't just go that route .
Lol well ya can't really blame him for being proud of his own work. Am sure he worked hard on it & is very happy w the way it turned out. Might be his crowning achievement. I'd be damn proud of myself too for that.
Amen to that. Although, I'm happy there's at least ONE option. An un-moddable system is as good as a brick, IMO. A softmod would be fantastic, but I'm willing to wait for EOL before one is available. Here's hoping...
I've never owned or played a switch. and i picked up a switch oled on launch day. still haven't opened it. i also have a hacked OG oled 3g vita and o3dsxl. even if i have to fi d a modchip somewhere, i would buy one. as the other person said, hopefully we don't have to wait until EOL. and i also agree with the statement that an unmoddable device is basically as good as a brick lol.
That comparison with the Vita made me realize just how ahead of it’s time it truly was and still is today. I’d even go as far as saying the scene comparing Final Fantasy X HD looks better on the Vitas screen. An absolutely phenomenal handheld that I still play all the time. Killzone Mercenary FTW.
Every time you mention the Vita, it makes me sad. It could have been a great console. But killed by Sony's push to get every gadget to use their own propietery storage. With hindsight, I am suprised that PSP still sells well despite the UMD disks.
I love my Vita through and through. Beautiful screen for its time and Killzone Mercenary is still the best handheld/mobile shooter to date. Such a damn shame it didn't catch on.
I loved the Vita. It was definitely the Dreamcast of handhelds. I think if Sony just cut back a bit and lowered the price, it could've done well. Did anyone really need 2 touch screens and 2 cameras? I know Tearaway made great use of them but all that hardware for 2 or 3 great games to use is just a sign it was overdesigned.
@@phamquanghuy8000 The UMD was just a game format, it's not surprising at all that it sold well. You went into a store, bought the psp game and played it. Memory cards are a whole different comparison.
Impossible. USB-C HDMI alternate mode uses up all the USB3 pins, leaving only the USB2 ones. You simply can't do HDMI and USB3 over a USB-C cable at the same time. Not without workarounds, anyhow. They could switch to USB-C DisplayPort alt mode, since that supports using less pins if less bandwidth is required, and you can do up to 4K60 with only half the pins, leaving enough pins for full USB3 speeds. However, they would then need a DP-to-HDMI converter in the dock, increasing costs. Thunderbolt would be another workaround, but isn't practical at these pricepoints. All that said, nothing stops them from delivering at least ~300 Mbps speeds over USB2.
I got a nintendo switch oled and the first thing i love about it is the stand. The older model just has a flimsy stick kickstand that only realy works on a table. The Oled model has a super nice one that you can set at any angle, and you can prop it up on your lap with detached joycons. just being able to prop the switch up easily and at any spot or angle is worth 20 dollars.
I still think they should've made a dedicated 'home' Switch, packed with a Pro controller. It would be considerably cheaper to produce, and there are millions of people out there that don't game on the go.
Why would anybody but that system though? I mean, the WiiU didn't sell worth a darn, and the main chip in the Switch is so underpowered compared to the other stationary consoles, that no one would want to buy it. The switch-iness of the Switch is why you buy it.
@@predabot__6778 "the switch-iness of the switch is why you buy it." I think the Switch Lite existing and selling as well as it has instantly proves that wrong. It would make perfect sense to have a more traditional console version of the Switch, a large amount of people have never played their Switch outside of the dock.
There’s definitely an argument for it! Perhaps they’ll do it as a budget option when they’re ready to release their next generation console though as selling an underpowered “home” console probably devalues the Switch ecosystem right now.
I've personally liked the premium look and feel the OLED Model has, and as someone who uses a full Switch in handheld mode quite a bit, I've liked the physical quality of life upgrades. I got mine on launch day and I've barely played any games on it because... Well... The download speed, as you mentioned, which is super disappointing for all Switch models overall. You can't bring your games/apps/updates/DLC over from one microSD card to another, you have to just redownload everything, so my Switch spent two solid days doing nothing but downloading all of my content.
you can transfer all games and save on a sd to another there is video on youtube that show how to do it, i'm gonna do it in 10min cause i've just got a new sd card
@@pinkace nah the screen makes it look much more premium. And the kickstand is far superior. It’s mainly the bezel reduction but it looks 10 times more premium.
Just bought the OLED. I went in for the Lite but when I saw the OLED I really wanted that instead. I may also purchase a Lite later on. I am planning on mostly using it undocked but the ability to use it on a tv or monitor is nice to have. If I already had a Switch I would be happy with that but for $50 more you might as well get the OLED. A Lite to an OLED comes down to cost with the Lite almost being half price, its a big difference.
Imagine how much Sony regrets not putting a little more effort i getting the Vita right, thy were a nat's hair away from getting it right, all they needed was a normal SD card slot, more first party games, I mean they have so much choice in that area, think of all the PS2 ports that would have played and look amazing on the PSV OLED screen, Dark Cloud 1&2 Vita edition anyone, not to mention ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, the Silent Hill games, a Resident Evil games Vita collection, a GTA pack consisting of GTA 3/VC/SA would have sold like hot cakes not to mention millions of Vita's (now the NS has the tipple GTA pack coming, you watch how many it sells, mark my words, it will sell silly amounts not to mention millions of Switches just for that release), point is there was so much low-hanging fruit they could have easily ported to the Vita to sell consoles by the bucket load, not to mention all those IPs they could make new handheld orientated content for, I even heard rumours of Dreamcast games coming to the Vita, which would have been amazing, especially at the time, so much missed potential with the Vita. Still at least we have it now with CFW, thanks to having a native PS1 and PSP CPU it's perfect for playing PS1 and PSP games, especially on the OLED, you can have your whole PS1 library on the Vita, plus so many amazing PSP games in 2X native resolution, like Vice City and Liberty City Stories, both amazing games that look incredible on the OLED screen, the Vita even has a really good version of RetroArch, opening up thousands of classics that look amazing, again thanks to the OLED. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had another crack at it, releasing a PS4 level handheld, with the capability of playing most of its legacy library from PS1/2/3/4, as well as handheld versions of it's latest AAA titles, now that would sell gang busters if it was sone properly, remoteplay with PS5 would be amazing, another amazing feature of the VITA, that is RP with the PS4, it may have had it's control quirks, but playing the Last of us on the Vita was awsome back in the day.
@@Wobble2007 Sony did a horrible job supporting the Vita with first party titles. It was a good JRPG machine but not much else. In the long run it worked out for the best since they put everything into the PS4. Count on the next major Switch update, whenever it happens, to bring performance up to the PS4 level. This is reasonable given where Apple SoCs already were back in 2018 and that Nvidia will be able to make something at least as performant with a cut down Orin SoC.
@@KoolAidManOG Given that the current NS is already pretty close to a base XB1/PS4, especially in docked mode, the NV Tegra X1 was and still is no slouch, it is a full fat Maxwell GPU with 256 cores don't forget, the next NS will quite likely use the latest Nvidia Tegra based SoC, which uses an Ampere or the Ampere-Next based GPU with 2048 CUDA or more cores, meaning the Switch2 will be far more capable than even the PS4 Pro, obviously it won't be in PS5 territory, but it will be capable of 4K for one thing, in docked mode that is, I'd imagine Nintendo will approach the Switch 2 slightly differently though, separating the specs between the dock and console, I.E having a second GPU in the dock capable of 4K, perhaps some type of custom SLI chip with DLSS capability to help out pushing 4K @ a stable 60 FPS, could also just be they design the dock similarly to a USB-C external GPU, putting a Tegra with fewer cores and RAM in the handheld console, and one with many more cores and RAM in the dock. This way they can also offer a cheaper Switch 2 Lite sans the dock. Who knows though really, it's just speculation, but fun to ponder.
@@Wobble2007 Nintendo won't do such thing. Why? Because of the cost of the hardware and all the technical hurdles they would need to jump. Nintendo is very cost-aware company. Today's level of performance for handheld systems that is at reasonable cost is something like Steam Deck which is what I would call "pretty close to PS4". In 2-3 years it might double and of course if they stick with NV then DLSS would be used extensively on such system so we might actually see quite high resolutions on such console. Given Nintendo cost-awareness I would rather expect them to make 1080p handheld, 1440p tops, give it ~2TFLOPs and call it a day. Why? No competition and no need to make it any faster.
I'm totally fine with 70. I generally put stuff to download before work or before bed and I'm fine. I've looked at getting the faster internet. I think it's £60 a month plus line rental, but I generally don't need that speed. The only time it pisses me off is when I get home from work and get stuck with a massive game update haha
When you remind me of the Vita OLED model releasing in 2012, it's depressing glaring how behind Nintendo has been at technology. Especially when you consider Nintendo also only fairly recently in relative terms got Bluetooth audio support, and that the original Nintendo Switch is the first Nintendo console with a screen that isn't sub standard definition in some form. I remember when Nintendo used to be a bit of a powerhouse eg as far back as N64 and GameCube.
@@AlexGray19 it's not just about graphics, although that was one of my points. But it's pretty underwhelming that Nintendo still yet can't get a decent online infrastructure in place (bad indexing on store, terrible on multiple device use, friend codes ect). Basic Bluetooth audio and HD screens arrived very late (those are very basic requirements, nothing to do with graphics). I like Nintendo. I want them to succeed and buy more of their stuff, but they really drag their heals when it comes to basic quality.
Nintendo purposely used older & cheaper technology on their consoles. Not just for profit, they figured game developers could do better with technology they were already familiar with.
@@skycloud4802 about the internet thing, they recently started using a new technology for online games, but atm is used only for monster hunter rise and pokemon legends idk if it will be used for older games too. What bothers me is the lack of a browser to acces while in game, and the barebone home menu, the 3ds' home menu was definitely superior to the one on the switch
@@avatarlui9195 It was cracked before the video came out. The same device that works on the Lite works on the OLED, it just needs to be manually soldered with wires. MVG even has one in his Switch Lite.
@@AdmiralKird I see, I’ll probably wait for the scene to find new and more easier methods to install custom firmware on the switch as the current one I have bad luck with.
WHUT! You can mod Switches now? (I mean, ones released after the Joycon port hack was fixed...) That's really good news! I was watching this like "blah blah new panel blah blah who cares, can't mod it, don't want it."
Burn-in is quite rare if you actually take care of your screen. Don't leave it at max brightness and have some breaks to avoid having the same image on the screen for too long
@@AchiragChiragg It means they are Joycons made by a different company besides Nintendo, I went through 3 sets of joycons in a few months, all had bad drift, then I got hori joycons and haven't had drift in over a year, seems like 3rd party is better than Nintendo's default ones.
Better to buy a proper screw and openi up the joycon apply a piece of thick paper under the Joycon.. There's a tutorial on how to fix the drift. It's worth a shot rather than buying a new set of Joycons heck even a 3rd party one.
US$510 on retail in Norway. I mainly play my Switch docked anyway, so even before it came out, I was not really looking to buy it. I don't get why it's so expensive here compared to elsewhere though. It would be cheaper to buy an imported one, pay shipping and VAT, than to buy it on retail.
Probably Supply demand. Norway is a small Market in Europe compared to France or Germany so a lot fewer Modells are shipped there and with the current chip shortages this drives up the price. In my country i've seen prices for the Oled Model go from 349,99 EUR to 500 EUR depending on the retailer.
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 LOL no with that niche device. Good luck for Valve securing all those chips and good for you that the preorder worked for you... Nintendo is a GLOBAL brand known by non gamers, not Valve...
After I moved out, while I still owned my personal account and physical switch games, I was down a switch. Getting the switch OLED then seemed like a good idea, and in that case it was. I play equally on tv and in handheld. I really appreciate the sleeker design, it feels less like a flimsy toy now. People are viewing it like a $350 upgrade but it was never meant for current switch owners to buy as a replacement, same way as when they released the xbox one S or ps4 slim you aren't meant to view the smaller form factor as a $300 upgrade. It's a $50 upgrade for people already in the market for a switch, and atleast for me, the better screen size and quality along with the increased memory is worth that alone. The more robust and sleeker dock+switch cases and the increased battery life over my launch switch are nice bonuses.
4:40 that's mega*bits* per second, not megabytes. Megabytes per second would be MB/s. Quite a big difference and some people could get confused since many platforms like Steam show downloads in MB/s instead of the usual Mbps.
Correct. And at 11:58, those two chips next to the SoC are the LPDDR4 RAM chips, *not* the Flash memory. The Flash is soldered to the backside of the mainboard, behind another shield. Similar to the Switch Lite, and not like the previous Switch which had a replaceable eMMC module.
Game companies have release multiple “minor change same thing” systems in each generation so I’m not really sure what all the backlash is, especially for only an extra $50 over the regular model. I have a V2 switch I got maybe 2 years ago and I’m eager to trade this one in for an OLED, I primarily use my switch in handheld mode so I’m looking forward to the bigger screen and upgraded internal space. What they need to do is release a standard size unibody switch like the lite, I think I’m about to snap by joycons off the base off of these days lol
If you have a switch already, it's a complete waste of money. For $50 your getting $10 worth of upgrades if that. If you haven't bought a switch yet? It's still overpriced for the technology they are offering in 2021. But still worth it because of the first party games. I mean the screen barely beats the vita which is from 2013.... its 2021. We should be playing on a 900p -1080p oled screen by now.
720p oled is an old technology for basically a tablet. for $50 more you get very minor changes which is not worth it all. people who have never use an oled panel and fast Ethernet speed might think it's worth it but by current standard it should be 1080p oled panel. oh I almost forgot to mention.. we are in deep Nintendo's monopoly right now.
@@Andy-hi9do please tell me where i can find an oled screen, 32 gb extra of storage, a better kickstand, metal frame for the screen and a lan wireless adaptor for 10 bucks. cuz rn you sound full of bullshit with that statement of just getting $10 worth of upgrades andy.
@@freezeframeplease when you mass produce it. It's very much $10 worth of upgrades. What? you really think that old 720p oled technology cost money these days???? $100 tablets have better screen technology in 2021. Probably cost $3 a screen, $5 at most for a company like Nintendo. As someone who worked in the auto industry who seen the process of making tool dies to punch out car parts. I can tell you the mold dies for the new Nintendo metal case, stand, and dock probably costed around $15,000 a pop and another $1,500 to maintain. Probably under $1 to produce them.... same goes for the ethernet port. and the extra storage on the same old motherboard?? That's where your extra $4-7 are at, your not getting a 120GB of the latest storage tech, so trust me it's not much more money lol calm down. Ultimately I might off a few bucks and it's really $15 total. But I can assure you, your not paying for $50 with of "upgrades". Seeing how the LCD systems are flying off the shelf at $300. I can guarantee you if they priced this "new" system at $300 they would still be making a profit... But why do that when they have people willing to spend another $350 for the same tech. The only thing that's "full of bullshit" is your financial skills if you ask me, if you want to buy a polished turd by all means I won't stop you, bc that's exactly what Nintendo is trying to sell you.
@@Andy-hi9do of course production wise is gonna be cheaper. everybody knows that companies don’t spent shit on selling expensive things. but the only fair way possible to see upgrades in their production cost prices is when you’re the one implementing the upgrades. of course the technology is going to be cheaper for nintendo, but average people is not going to buy an oled screen and better joysticks to replace them themselves. maybe you have experience on modding or building things from scratch, but average switch users are not going to upgrade their switches themselves to an oled even if nintendo sell the parts at a low production price. maybe you and me yes idk, i’ve nodded consoles before and for what i’m reading maybe you too, but for the physical quality of life upgrades like, not having to buy an extra sd card in some cases, or not having to buy a damn lan adapter, not having to buy some case with a better kickstand cuz the og switch one sucks, and sorry if i’m repeating but these accessories are not easily available at a bulk/cheap price. this switch is clearly a move to give the people who don’t own a switch the chance of a better switch at a not so of a bs price
Anyone that has run Linux or Android on a modded switch will know that the Dock can be used in USB 3 mode but that doing so makes the quality of the bluetooth signal much worse. Nintendo developers have decided to make the Switch capable of connecting to up to 8 different controllers at once, and running the dock in USB 2 is a compromise to get this to work.
That's fine for the original models, but this has had both a console and dock hardware refresh. They could have fixed that issue for a premium version of a premium product, especially when they had so much time to beforehand.
@@BobBobson Aw, you're right! I completely forgot about the unforgivable Joycon drift. It's amazing how little effort Nintendo puts into improving its products.
Since I only use my Switch docked, the OLED is just not for me. We already have 2 launch Switches and 2 Switch Lite in the household and that is plenty for the 2 of us.
I loved the Vita a ton. I'm not sure it was the proprietary memory cards alone that killed it to be honest, but they didn't help. Vita got such an unfair rep either way.
If you have one already, especially if you play it while docked most of the time. You're just wasting your money. I play mine handheld most of the time and it still works fine. I still don't see the justification on the OLED model. It feels like Nintendo is getting ready pretty soon in about a year or two to release a 4k switch or Switch Pro, then I'll consider it.
I'll bet you $100 this doesn't happen. They have a successor system they have to market in the next two years or so. If they released a 4k Switch now, what's the selling point for the not too far off Switch 2?
@@JD-xz1mxhonestly with how much the portability was integral to sale numbers I don't think whatever the next system they put out isn't in essence just a switch pro anyway, hell just look at the wii u it wasn't a wii 2 it was just a wii pro marketed wrong
have you seen an oled screen? i have a vita and it's like..the best looking display i've ever seen, if it's really the same then it's def worth it over the normal switch screen, which is garbage.
@@wingedfish1175 the forced gamepad use on developers is what killed the wii u... hell the gamepad requirement was what killed the wii u.... i will say though... due to being in the midwest and road trips being common -- plus educating people on power inverters almost every wii u i sold was on the premise of having a game console that could be used in the car as well as use the wii games (the wii u only pulled 35 max watts of power.. a normal power inverter for a car is 100 watts which meant any 13 inch - 20 inch monitor could be used with it... i still use my wii u like this bcuz even if your in the passenger seat up front u can use the gamepad)
I use my switch almost exclusively in hand held mode, and as great as oled screens are, the switch light has a d-pad and doesn't have the flimsy feeling joycon slide ons for the controls and thus just feels soooo much better in the hands. If they make an OLED switch light, then I'd have a delima, but if I had no switch, and was offered a free one and had to choose between a switch lite and the new OLED switch as even up choices, I'd take the switch lite just based on how it feels in the hand compared to the joycon models.
i owned a switch lite and used it undocked or in a charging stand while playing. I bought the OLED for the larger display and nicer quality, glass screen etc. I am not disappointed so far. owning a first gen vita since launch I know how nice oleds are and glad to have one for a gaming console again. I agree and hope that they update content to be more OLED friendly tho without static borders etc
You swapped bits and bytes :) We will see if the OLED screen has burn in problems or not. But maybe with newer generations of OLES screens that problem is not so drastic.
It's a symptom of the technology and won't go away because the diode itself is something that wears out. OLED burn in is the wrong term because it's not burn in, it's more like burn out. Because the diode gets weaker over time, that's what causes the image persistence unlike LCDs where the image is actually burned into the liquid crystal.
There's UA-camrs that have already had theirs on a frozen screen for over a week with no burn in. I think the average user will be fine. There's been over 10 years of improvements on OLED technology since the Vita.
@@bryanx0317 Wishful thinking from the same company who refuses to fix Joycons because they profit from the sales of new sets. I still have my launch Vita and it has no screen problems though. I think it's more of an issue for people who play at max brightness, but my Vita literally blinds me if I do so.
@@bryanx0317 a week is hardly any measure of the screen resistance to burn out. Even high end OLED TVs are getting burn in after months of use as a monitor. Just check LTT or Bernacules for examples of less than a year old OLED TVs with image persistence. Get back after several months of use. Either there will be burn out or the OLED will be noticeably weaker.
(b) bits vs (B) byte, also the usb-c bandwith should not be affected by the video signal since they aren't sharing the same tx-rx lanes through alt-mode.
@SNES Nes power lines are obviously separated and always have been, even going back to usb 1.0. there are many usb-c docks that do power delivery, hdmi and ethernet at the same time wothout issues or interferences. the slow speeds are more likely because the switch itself can't keep up. even wifi ac on the switch isn't as faster as it should be.
@@sakitoshi you still get 3.0 on the old dock anyway so it’s not even a limitation of the switch itself. Nintendo knows people are modding their switches and hooking up external HDDs with eShop dumps so they nuked that option by releasing a switch that doesn’t even switch (no dock support in the switch lite) and a follow up switch with no usb 3 support and an essentially useless Ethernet port in its place.
@@StormBurnX I highly doubt they released the switch lite and oled with a gimped dock just to spite modders for some reason, Nintendo can be dumb but they aren't stupid. As of right now you can't even mod mariko switches (red box, lite and oled) so it would be even more stupider.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn you’re almost correct - you can’t *softmod* the mariko units, but there are hardmods that work reliably enough to count. And if you think Nintendo’s greed, laziness, and pettiness doesn’t extend that far then you’ve got a lot to learn because they’ve done stupider and meaner shit before. Easiest case in point: releasing 3DS firmware updates that would literally brick your switch and require you to send it in for “repair” if you put a flashcart in (back before the days of manually flashing fw, let alone cfw). They’re neither dumb nor stupid.
Only had a few hours with mine so far, but I’m glad I upgraded. I’m partially sighted so always struggled to use the Switch handheld with most games (most of my handheld time was quick New Horizons sessions), but the larger more vibrant screen is a huge boon. Hopefully it’ll allow me to play a wider range of games handheld, and I’m really looking forward to trying more games with it.
I had the old, bad battery switch so I wanted to upgrade anyway. Yesterday I played for 2 hours on my oled model and my battery was still at 88%. I don't regret my purchase yet.
@@arch1107 If they have the old switch it may be one of the RCM capable ones. I got the oled one and I'm going to turn my old one into a homebrew machine, can't wait to play some of my old PS1 titles with it.
@@IdiotRace lol, i can do that without a switch on any pc i have, not seeing the point of homebrew, the small screen and the joycons are not for everybody i think i wouldn't bother with homebrew
@@arch1107 you are aware that the switch is portable, right? Sure you have a decent desktop, but if you're on a train I don't think you're going to be using it
It's amazing to me how all of these extremely intelligent, capable tech guys like vintage bro and Linus tech say things like "we need to wait and see whether or not oled will burn in over time". Guys, it's organic. It degrades over time, unevenly. It's a known problem with the tech. The only reason why no one confidently says that is because the entire industry took that risk for the visual fidelity rewards. Just accept it. 10 years from now, if you use the switch regularly, that shit will have issues.
We aren't too far off from a time where OLEDs on phones were burning images within a couple of months of regular use. Which wouldn't fair well for games that typically have static UI elements. It's more of a peace of mind kind of test to know that the implementation of the screen tech is a good iteration.
Keep in mind that OLED displays in phones do 1000nits plus of brightness, OLED TV's do 700-1000nits of brightness. This switch does 350 nits of brightness don't think burn in will be an issue
@@ak1996able even for those that limit their brightness on their TV's show burn in over time with regular use. It's the nature of the beast when it comes to OLED. It degrades with use, period. We use the term burn in as a hold over from the CRT and plasma days where it legitimately means just that - you over excited a specific phosphor and permanently burned in an image. That infers that if you don't leave an image on for too long, you shouldn't have to ever worry about an image burning in. OLED doesn't work that way - a pixel degrades at an uneven rate which causes a noticable difference in brightness for a certain pixel, as one of the color sub pixels simply can't get bright enough anymore. There are some ways for screens to handle that (such as a screen refresh that basically burns each organic pixel down to be the same brightness as it's neighbor...but that's a solution that hinders the brightness and therefore vibrancy of the panel), but in general, OLED as a technology is expected to not last. That said, you will get more than a few years out of it while looking great. But for those that want quality to the point that you can expect the image to be as good 5-7 years from now as it is now, best go with LCD.
Yep. OLED looks nice. (Sometimes. Many of the phone implementations seem over-the-top unnaturally vibrant to me.) But it is this generation's plasma. It isn't the way forward.
In 10 years from now your battery will have died a lot of times. But no one avoids battery driven devices because of this. It just makes no sense just like there is no sense in avoid OLED. There is no reason to avoid the better tech only if you are a idiot instead if "burn" you screen you are burning money
I also hope so, if that happens I will take the latest PlayStation handheld instead of taking the PS4 and PS5 with a note that Sony has started to clean up with its newest handheld.
I’m a heavy handheld user, so all the quality upgrades and the new stand, it’s really great! The OLED looks nice, and it feels like a premium device. Younger kids should definitely stick with the base model or the lite though, as the OLED feels much more fragile.
4:36 75 megaBYTES per second would be a good speed for a wired network connection, but you were getting 75 megaBITS per second, which is one eighth the speed you claimed you got, as shown by the lowercase b in "Mbps".
"It took 4-5 hours to download a 27Gb game in 2021, frankly unacceptable" Meanwhile I come from a 100-200Kbps download speed which would have taken me 5 days at least assuming I never pause the download. Honestly, when one gets too comfortable it becomes hard to accept anything less than near instant gratification. I currently moved countries and I live with downloads of 2-3mbs per second and I'm so thrilled to see me downloading AAA games in hours instead of days
Just downloaded Mario Party 10 to my Wii U - says it needs 3500 MB free space - and it was around an hour. So yeah, I would expect much more in 2021 - especially when a game is 20+ gigs.. On the note, I was living in the mountains for 6 years where the only option was a microwave internet at 1000kb/s - which was more like sub 500 - and the antenna had to be installed very high to see the tower above the trees - and there is always the bad weather to ruin your day. Now I have 100Mb fiber optics and it's the lowest in my area. So yeah, I feel you.
It's funny hearing MVG say those speeds are atrocious when I get less than a fraction of that where I live lol. I get what he was trying to say but it's still funny
jack favvv02 Yes. The OLED model has the same SOC revision as the red box model. Meaning the bootloader can be glitched exactly the same way using a mod chip.
I've jumped into the OLED whilst owning a gen 2 Switch (with better battery life). I sold this Switch to a friend of mine, so that comforted me to do the upgrade. Zero regrets. I play handhed and on the TV more or less 50-50.
I've had a Switch for over 3 years and aside from the day I took it out of the box I've never once used it in handheld mode. No reason to upgrade for a screen I'll never use and an Ethernet port that is nice, but isn't worth paying $350 for.
I had a launch edition switch and happily bought OLED since I play primarily handheld and the bigger screen, better colors and battery life have been worth it for me. Absolutely loving it so far.
It is insane they are still selling obsolate hardware for such insane price. 4 hours to download 27GB in 2021 LMAO nintendo. And still same joycons with the same problem is a FU to all people buying switch hardware, it is just laughable!
well obsolete hardware is not the word i would use, clearly is capable of some decent graphics but is indeed hardware for a tablet from 2015, in 2022 almost the new switch will have better specs hopefully and should be here around 2023 i think after all, the consoles are kept around for 5 to 7 years, switch has so far 5 years on market more or less
The hardware was outdated in 2012. Tegra X1 CPU from an NVIDIA streaming box UNDERCLOCKED to a mere 1Ghz. The GPU is also underclocked and the only reason it even has 4GB of RAM is because so many companies told Shit-tendo that the Switch needed more then just 2GB (some of which is used by the OS so games wouldn't even have 2GB to work with).
I would like to know his methodology for the "real world" 27 GB download he did. Was he wired? Did he test another device with the same cable? Was the console in standby? My PS4 Pro will download and install games WAY quicker when it's in standby. I'm asking for methodology because that definitely wasn't 75 Megabits per second. 😅
Thanks for testing it out. I got my first switch a month before this released, and know I only really missed out on a screen. Though I have had a Samsung A3 before, and those amoleds are gorgeous.
I've thought about getting the OLED but just decided to spend that money on a SteamDeck instead. The way I see it, we'll probably see the successor to the Switch within the next 2-3 years and I'd rather wait for that than spend money on a device with a better screen but the same internals.
Same as me I’ve reserved my steam deck which I will be able to purchase early next year also it is much more powerful than the switch and can emulate many other consoles instead of just switch games
Actually, I wonder if Nintendo really is planning on replacing the system that soon. They stayed with the original Gameboy and Gameboy pocket for 9 years before moving on to the Gameboy Color. And in a lot of respects, the GBC was really just a minor upgrade of the Gameboy, sorta like the Xbox One X.
I bought both an OLED and steam deck. But I'm more looking forward to steam deck. OLED has been great so far though, I'm loving the bigger screen and colors.
@Daniel G Then why don't people just fight with tweets, videos and all that to get Nintendo to at least think about doing so, if not actually do it? Do they not care if Nintendo actually makes a console that is beefier than the PS5? Do they not want Nintendo to even try? I'm pretty sure Nintendo even knows their Switch has dated hardware.
Having purchased one on launch day, it's honestly a really nice system. Internals aside, almost everything has been upgraded, and playing games in handheld mode look amazing. Basically, like every reviewer that went out and bought 4 of these on launch day has said, if you have a regular switch that's still functioning perfectly, or even a switch lite, there's really no need to upgrade to the OLED model. If you DON'T have a switch or switch lite, and you want the docking feature, then you can either get the switch OLED, or get a regular switch if you don't really care about the upgraded screen and put that extra $50 on a pro controller and/or some extra accessories for it. Really just depends on how much you're going to play in handheld mode, cause if you're mostly using it in docked mode, then save yourself the money and get a regular switch. However, if you're like me, and your switch isn't doing so hot, then it could be a decent opportunity to trade your old switch in and get the OLED model. My switch's fan was sounding like an electric toothbrush after 3 years, so I either had to get a new one, or fix the fan. If you're willing to trade in your current switch for the OLED model, you'll practically be getting it for $100 after trading it in, which isn't a bad deal imo.
@@Alexander_l322 If you have a hackable switch, people are willing to buy it for around $250-300. I was thinking about doing it but I got the switch OLED and am gifting the hackable switch.
@@Alexander_l322 I sold my Old Switch for 300 on ebay, actually 350 with accessories included. Became 315 after shipping and ebay fees. Only morons go to Gamestop to get value for their consoles.
No. It’s a 7in 720p display with 4-5year old outdated internal components that chug trying to maintain a decent frame rate. Include a game, $20-30 memory card, and maybe a pro controller and the price tag is up there with an Xbox Series X and PS5. Wait for either a price cut or the next Nintendo console announced in either 2022/2023.
Well, this is, as I call it myself, a "Mario & Link" device. Beside those nintendo first-party games there are few titles exclusive to switch that are worth buying. Though I own a switch I still decide to buy MHR on steam to enjoy at 1080P60Hz
@@Dakkidaze also a lot of first party games are pretty old now and others aren't really up to the standards Nintendo had in previous console generations.
The OLED model is simply stunning. As soon as I booted mine up I was blown away. You'd never know it was only 720p. Putting it next to my V2 Switch, it was night and day difference.
Same. People saying "if you already have a switch then it's not worth it", have no idea what they're talking about. You can watch as many videos as you want but seeing the bigger screen in person hits different
@anil2 I actually buy the Switch V2 (red box) months before the Switch OLED because of what I heard from other UA-camrs discussing that OLED wont be that great upgrade in Switch because I am dumb enough to believe them but after the release day of Switch OLED the very same UA-camrs they said it was a huge upgrade from Lite and V2 and now I am thinking did I do the right thing buying the V2 before the OLED release...? also how huge really the difference between the IPS LCD and OLED in terms of visual...? I am a handheld player for about 70-80% because of work...!
@@gategaming959 there's a massive difference. The build quality is much better, the buttons are better. The stand is solid and can go in multiple positions. Then you got a stunning OLED screen, which is bigger. Play Zelda or Mario on it and it blew me away. I picked up my V2 Switch and it felt like a cheap knock off with a poor screen. The blacks all of a sudden looked grey 😳
@@AniviaS I’m thinking 3 years ahead when the Steam Deck fails. It’s another PSVita. It’ll have a dedicated but small user base. The storage and battery life are going to be the biggest problems for the Steam Deck. So many companies have introduced a fancier handheld to the market and they’ve all learned hard and expensive lessons. Now it’s Valve’s turn.
@@mikeuk666 well, if you want a portable console, is the switch or the steam deck, the other consoles need a monitor, speakers, controllers, a desk or a table, is not for the same people those two different ideas
Had the Lite, so the upgrade was absolutely worth it for me. It’s like night and day. For normal or model 2 Switch owners..maybe not. Traded my Lite as well as my OG 500gb PS4 with 2 controllers, since I have a PS5. The OLED was basically free for trading in consoles I won’t use anymore. Also thanks for showing some Vita love.
After using my friends older switch and my OLED, I can definitely warrant an upgrade. $50 extra gets you a nicer, bigger screen and a MUCH better kickstand, as well as a little more storage if you end up not buying a micro SD. I play handheld a lot, so it was a no brainer for me.
Who doesn't own a Micro SD? 50$ for OLED is robbery it shouldn't be a different model, they should have just upgraded the Switch into this one. Nintendo is greedy and their fans will justify paying for anything, just look at the joke that is their online service.
I can relate, I can get up to 5mb/sec on a good day and that’s using my hotspot which is leagues better than my House Wifi. That only gives me 500kb - 1mb/sec.
As long as people buy it there is no reason for Nintendo to lower the prices. If you ask me, I wouldn't pay more than $150 for the hardware. However, what people tend to forget is that Nintendo isn't a charity, even when they market themself as the "good child friendly console" compared to Sony and Microsoft.
The price depends on the demand and not the sum of components. For example even if they sell Metroid Dread at $100 the demand would still be high. It's the power of the brand over a consumer self-respect.
@@АлександрТерехов-ж3й because some consumers have self-respect and different tastes in games thus different opinion ))) But the power of Nintendo brand is still high they could sell their Switch at the price of the top iPhone and most consumers would defend that decision.
I always thought Switch looked way better on OLED. After playing it on my OLED TV, I couldn't bare look at the washed out IPS. Nintendo first party titles, in particular, look amazing. Mario's outfit looks red instead of pink. Wish there was a way to put an OLED display on a gameboy color.
@@zachcarmichael699 That's not really a relevant point in what I was saying though. I was merely stating a fact I knew in response to MVG saying it couldn't be modded yet.
The main deal-breaker for me is eventual OLED related screen-burn... Maybe 1, 2, 3 years time or varies wildly dependent on User usage - who knows. Micro-LED (not mini-LED which is completely different) will be the real game changer... as well as Solid State batteries.
Maybe it's just the video but I find the OLED has too high blue levels and looks dimmer. The IPS panel make the helmet of Samus glow while the OLED version looks muted. As someone who likes the glow of CRTs and so on, I would actually prefer the IPS of the video can really be used as reference when watched on an IPS screen. Even the Vita looks brighter in my eyes. Would need to see it live and in action to compare it to my original Switch model and my OLED Vita.
Funny how 'joycon wear' though unavoidable over time, happens nearly instantly with the switch lol. The new one has the SAME joycon parts, but a sturdier rail system, which is what that interview alluded to, not the sticks being better.
It’s bad. My sister has probably bought four pairs of joycons for my nephew by now. My launch joycons developed drift as well. I have a Lite as well and I’m afraid of using the sticks so I only play games that need a dpad on it.
My launch joycon got drift almost immediately. I played botw and Mario odyssey with drift for 7 months until I couldn’t take it anymore and called Nintendo. They fixed it only for it to happen again
I've seen on other reviews that the joycons seem to hold in more securely for hand held mode. Do you feel the same way? It sounds like the joycon drift problem fix is theoretically "improved parts" so they last just long enough for the warranty to run out since I know they lost a lot of money having to repair/replace the ones that were under warranty.
Fixing the joycon drift would be easy, and its not “improved parts”. The metal part on the back of the analog sticks slowly bends with usage, and that is the primary cause of the drift, as the components inside no longer make proper contact. The fix if you’re experiencing joycon drift is to shove a thin piece of plastic between the stick and the hull. The fix nintendo should implement is to just add a bit more plastic to tbe mould, though i suspect they would have problems in assembly due to low tolerances. The only way better parts can fix joycon drift is if they seriously increase the thickness of metal plate on the analog sticks, for which there isn’t enough room inside the joycons.
@@bhirawamaylana466 Nintendo actually cares enough to repair things but what law says businesses have to repair consumers products instead of making them buy new ones?
I have a "red box" Switch and won't be upgrading to OLED. I know first hand how nice an OLED screen can be since my phone has one. However, burn-in/aging is unavoidable in OLED display tech. This is somewhat acceptable in a phone since the device will likely be hopelessly outdated and slow by the time the screen gets very bad. But I like my game consoles to last as close to forever as possible, since I like being able to return to older games years later. The kickstand looks like a night-and-day improvement over the pathetic one in previous models and actually excites me more than the screen, but for $350... I think I'll just buy a Switch "play stand" for $10 and put the remaining $340 toward games or a better TV to play them on.
I say the Switch Lite is more worth it if you want the portable experience. Like we had OLED for so long i don't know why it wasn't the normal model on release lol
Agreed, but I think too many people are ignoring tabletop mode. I play tabletop mode all the time with friends. That on the oled is the best experience.
I’d have double checked the cable and connection with a laptop to check for issues with the router or cable too. Hopefully the speed issues will be patched on the fly with dock firmware. One thing I’d have loved to have tested is a direct usb3.0 USB-C Ethernet adaptor to see if the speeds improve.
The Switch OLED seems like a non-starter for those of us who mostly play ours docked. The inclusion of an ethernet port on the dock is welcome, though, and it looks like battery life got a boost. As for DL speeds, I'm sure Nintendo's got bandwidth caps set up on all their users' network sessions, so the USB v2 vs v3 issue doesn't really matter. Not that that's a valid excuse.
This was such an interesting video I loved it!! I just bought a switch oled online today, still waiting to actually get it but I'm so excited. I already have a switch lite however I was wanting to upgrade so that I could have a switch that had docked mode so it made way more sense for me to get the oled and have the full nice upgrade rather than going back to a regular switch for that. I can't wait to see this beautiful screen for myself and be able to play switch games on the tv with my family :)
Thanks for this run-down. I recently got a V1 model for soft-modding and I love it, but I still find OLED screens to be quite amazing so seeing the comparisons is interesting.
@@jayle203 only the original non-red box switch can be soft-modded and even then you need to check the serial number as Nintendo made some updates to stop the joycon short payload injection method working before releasing the red-box update model. There are serial number checkers online.
"Mb" reefers to Mega-bits, not Mega-Bytes(with capital B) and a bite is x8 smaller than a Byte, meaning those 78Mb are actually about 10MB, just like OG Xbox.
Nice breakdown of the OLED model. I have no plans to get one at this time. My 1st gen switch is just fine. The screen burn in is something that is a concern as I use mine 98% in handheld and have tons of hours over the 3.5+ years now that I have had it. I’ll be watching for any burn in reports down the road. Zero issues with burn in for a regular IPS type LCD panel. I’ve been very happy with the switch over all and is my only gaming system. Sure I’ve replaced the battery after about 2 year but also redid the thermal paste while it was apart with arctic silver 5. Have a 1TB micro sd card. Both analog sticks have been replaced and also have clear joy con shells with a D-pad now on the left one instead of buttons. Yes Nintendo people do want a D-pad left joy con! The mini dock for the stock dock guts, also much easier to take with you vs the huge hunk of plastic that is the stock dock. My AC adapter went bad but a cheap replacement fix. I’m happy with the switch. Sure Xbox X/S or PS 5 power would be awesome! but not realistic for ~$300 system. They do exist but are in the $2.5K+ range, with like 30 minutes of battery life at 100% graphics. Overall I’m quite happy Nintendo 👍
@@napalmhardcore sorry, I didn’t mean to come across as an asshole. I just was more in disbelief that someone could have that low of a connection! That’s rough that you’re dealing with those speeds man, my condolences
@@DandySpace No worries. Yeah, my local internet is pretty poor and my ISP is a complete joke (anyone from where I live would say the same if you asked them).
If we ever get homebrew on the OLED, I'm in. Until then, my "home" switch sits in the dock, and is permanently online. My travel switch is never online, and modded so I can dump my game carts and play them on the move without taking their expense with me. That one is played handheld 99% of the time. So would be nice to have better battery and nicer screen.
I bought the OLED despite already owning a launch model switch. The only reasons I did it is because I wanted a dedicated system for homebrew that I didn't need to worry about a possible ban on. My launch model has officially been relegated to my homebrew machine. Second, I like the white and black model as it goes well with the PS5 as well as Metroid Dread.
@@jamesgains23 That's cute, kid. I'm a grown ass old man. I'm well-paid in a career I'm passionate about and I have no children nor am I currently married. I can buy what I want, when I want and have the time to enjoy my life. How about you, what have you accomplished?
@@mph8er straight up aced all my classes with little to no effort (less than 1 hour studying per day), have a girlfriend and a lot of friends, i go outside every day (the club, friend's houses etc), i am well built with over 60% muscle gain in the last year and actually touch grass. I think that is some good shit for a 17 year old "kid", mr grown-ass man
I have the regular switch and I honestly don't think that having that one is worth it...Like really? I can't play games on the go digitally without an internet connection...Cell phones work perfectly fine and I don't understand how Nintendo skipped that part on a handheld
This switch should cost the same, i expected a bigger screen when it comes to screen to body ration leaving it with no vessels at all and higher game resolutions :/
We just had a heck of an inflation spike, so this is just a right-sizing of the price tag to match 2021 financials. The screen is just a decoy to make it seem less like what it is. You don't get $15 minimum wage without a gut-punch to the economy, let alone the pandemic's many far-reaching effects.
My OLED Switch has a strong yellow tint. And as stated, it does not feel like a big improvement over the Lite for handheld play. The Lite has more going for it overall for this style of play (size, weight, dpad).
How strong is strong? Yellow (warm) tinted screens are closer to color accurate. MVG's looks far, far too blue (cold), and I wouldn't at all be happy with his.
@@BradHook Funny how it can vary among individuals. I drove myself mad with colour calibration woes for a long time, until I finally came to the conclusion that I really do not enjoy "colour-accurate" warm whites. Not that my screens are a blue mess, but just a tad on the cooler side. I've read so many times that you get used to it, and kept wondering why I didn't.
That's crazy. My lite (and literally 99% of the ones I've seen on the internet) are both 'warmly' calibrated and also much more washed out (lower color saturation) than my V1 switch
@@BradHook MVG's actually look good to me. In all cases, there is a lottery here and this should not exist. I had to buy my Lite used to make sure I get a white screen back then...
@@remondx8880It's just humans doing what we do best - being divisive. I'm so conditioned to warm whites that looking at anything but seriously frustrates me. Do you 'cool' camp people enjoy watching films at the cinema? Genuine question.
I traded in my old switch for the OLED model for $130. This, imo, was worth it because I use my switch exclusively in handheld mode. I haven't even had my dock plugged in for over a year. For the price, I will certainly get my money's worth out of it.
@@GirlMeetsBrini Prob sold it and got the money and only paid $130 for the OLED Switch. So $349-130 = He sold his normal switch for $219 ($80 from the $299 MSRP price)
USB 2.0 limit is 480 Mega **BITS** per second, once you discount framing and packetization overloads, it's more like 48-50 Mega **BYTES** per second, on top of that you'll have "losses" when wrapping the ethernet packets, that will introduce their own overheads (control fields and so)... . Great channel, keep on it.
Ok... Sure... But he consistently said bytes when he meant bits. The speeds on screen are labeled Mbps so that's supposed to be bits and he said bytes, and he mentioned his internet speed is 1000 Mega Bytes but I don't think anyone offers that as an option, I'm pretty sure he means 1000 Mbps, and yes he said 480 Mega Bytes and meant Mega bits.
The question is as much about latency, surely, rather than bandwidth?
@@TheGodOfAllThatWas We do actually have one ISP here in Sweden that offers 10 gigabit connections. That would be 1250 megabytes per second.
There's really no point here other than a correction, as the speeds given in the speed test are in megabits, not bytes like you say. So 70 odd megabits per second. In his narration he basically called it all bytes, but it makes no difference here to the message unless it was in fact 70 megabytes.
@@guderian557 Here in Tennessee we have 10 gigabit.
As a launch Switch owner, the Switch OLED is definitely a case of want and not need. Since I also primarily play docked I think I’ll pass and instead invest in a OLED TV.
Already had an oled TV and a launch switch but I also grabbed the oled switch
Nailed it bought it because i wanted it i already had a switch. I still haven't opened my OLED
to me its not worth it at all if you already have a switch, the panel might have nice colors but its pixel layout is different and it has less subpixels so its technically less resolution than the old ones, so its an upgrade in color but a downgrade in clarity. Not worth any amount of money if you ask me. The kickstand is the only thing going for it atm. It would be much better to wait another 2 years until they are forced to released an upgraded revision due to new games not being capable of running on the current hardware.
I had a launch edition switch and happily bought OLED since I play primarily handheld and the bigger screen, better colors and battery life have been worth it for me. Absolutely loving it so far.
@@drudigger I agree totally how could you just bring out a oled display on a obsolete chips. Set, why didn’t they just upgrade the dang thing
Only Nintendo can getaway with these type of thing if this was Microsoft or Sony they would get flame for it ..
For me personally, the OLED screen was absolutely enough reason to upgrade (that, and the kick stand). It just feels… right? Like my old switch looks awful in comparison to it now. The screen size is fantastic and visually games look markedly better and it’s made me want to actually play switch games again.
Exactly. Also, the 64GB is a very welcoming addition after 5 years of existence.
@@ifabianxd1338 YES. So many bigger games are too big to even be the only game on the original switch’s internal storage.
what you're arguing is that a minor upgrade to what's supposed to be half of your switch experience justifies buying an entirely new version, despite there being no overclock/higher clock on any of the hardware, or any changes to the hardware period apart from 64GB of base storage. it's quite weak an argument and i personally don't think that it's justified paying $50 more than the og RRP lmao
(Edit: forgot to mention that in portable mode, it still runs at 720p. which is quite disappointing)
I think that it's pathetic that stick-drifting roughly 23 years after the release of the Dreamcast, with it's _bullet-proof_ hall-effect based analog-sticks (and triggers) is still a major issue.
I totally agree, I have: a ps vita, ds lite, 3ds xl, wii u with game pad, many systems that use a controller and NONE of those have ever had drifting issues with the analog sticks so the switch is the only console I’ve had that has drift issues, really shows how badly made and unreliable those small sticks are
Hall effect sensors FTW
SEGA does what NINTENDON'T !!!
@@Sashko_Dee to be fair a Nintendo gameboy survived a bomb blast, Nintendo used to take their durability game seriously but nowadays that doesn’t seem to be the case
Dreamcast sticks are the worst for me also dpad i own 3 pads and none of them play well :/
Staying on the old one myself. I primarily play docked so there is no reason what so ever for me to get the new one.
I will get one eventually, I can sell my Switch for $300+ still because it's unpatched which has a demand for it.
So $50+tax upgrade for the new one? Sure not a big deal.
I still hope Nintendo will one day make a permanently docked version with gigabit ethernet, the pro controller, and 4k compatibility, not holding my breath though.
Same, especially since I have the 2019 model
Quite frankly, as much as an OLED screen is much better, I don't think it's worth it.
If you don't have a Switch yet, I still think it's better to pay cheaper on Lite (if you play first in portable mode) or on the normal model since there is no difference in games and the hardware is exactly the same.
If you already have a Switch, would you really pay $350 for a model that has exactly the same hardware as the console you already own? (And worse, if you play first in the dock you won't have any difference and if you play first in portable mode, it's no longer worth getting a Switch Lite which is cheaper and more ''portable'' since it's smaller and easier to take anywhere and have a d-pad ? ), in my opinion it's even more worthwhile to buy a Steam Deck since it's only $50 more and besides having a much more powerful hardware, it's capable of running games that the Switch doesn't can rotate. ( Aside from some games that run at 30fps on Switch that can be played at 60fps on Steam Deck like Doom Eternal not to mention games that run on Cloud on Switch but natively on Steam Deck like Control )
Yea, and can't hack this OLED model without hardware mod.
I am considering getting the OLED Switch, just because I have a launch switch, and I would benefit from both the OLED screen and the increased battery that the 1.1 versions got
But that's about it... 650$ gone like that
@@rchaelk2319 worth it every cent my dude, I use my switch oled far more than my OG Switch thanks to the better battery
@@DeadLineGame that's actually what matters.
Gg dude
I also have the v1 switch from 2017 and the OLED switch I have now is miles better
@@DeadLineGame it’s still a 720p screen tho. Not to mention no new internals.
I'm going to say this again, I really wish that Nintendo just upgraded the switch lite with an OLED screen. You don't dock that console, it's always portable, it makes the MOST sense to have. Specially with that smaller bezel, and on a smaller device, it would make it look like a modern piece of tech. Anyway, no it's not worth 350.
perhaps in a near future they might do it?
I agree fully
BTW, did you misspell portable by accident?
That's why you're not in charge man, you can't go around making sense like that.
No way . If I want that small of a screen ilk stick to my 2dsxl. I love the 2 screen idea anyways. Now I could see them adding a oled lite in the future . But I'm so thankful they didn't just go that route .
I want Switch Lite OLED
"Look at Shantae, the game looks georgeous, thanks to the *excellent porting job* and also the OLED panel"
haha yes the excellent porting job needs to be emphasized too!
Shantaes hips don’t lie
He be flexing on us 💪
Lol well ya can't really blame him for being proud of his own work. Am sure he worked hard on it & is very happy w the way it turned out. Might be his crowning achievement. I'd be damn proud of myself too for that.
@@Wingedmagician Shakira ain't got nothin' on her.
I am so accustomed to homebrew on my Switch that it really needs to have a much better option than a $150-200 modchip to make me think of an upgrade.
Facts lol
Amen to that. Although, I'm happy there's at least ONE option. An un-moddable system is as good as a brick, IMO.
A softmod would be fantastic, but I'm willing to wait for EOL before one is available. Here's hoping...
I've never owned or played a switch. and i picked up a switch oled on launch day. still haven't opened it. i also have a hacked OG oled 3g vita and o3dsxl. even if i have to fi d a modchip somewhere, i would buy one. as the other person said, hopefully we don't have to wait until EOL. and i also agree with the statement that an unmoddable device is basically as good as a brick lol.
150 - 200€ is practically what They earn selling a console
Honestly, if i could find a mod chip I'd get one for this. Ain't no way I'm going back to patched
That comparison with the Vita made me realize just how ahead of it’s time it truly was and still is today. I’d even go as far as saying the scene comparing Final Fantasy X HD looks better on the Vitas screen. An absolutely phenomenal handheld that I still play all the time. Killzone Mercenary FTW.
Every time you mention the Vita, it makes me sad. It could have been a great console. But killed by Sony's push to get every gadget to use their own propietery storage. With hindsight, I am suprised that PSP still sells well despite the UMD disks.
Sony dropped the ball on the Vita. It should still be in production.
I love my Vita through and through. Beautiful screen for its time and Killzone Mercenary is still the best handheld/mobile shooter to date. Such a damn shame it didn't catch on.
I loved the Vita. It was definitely the Dreamcast of handhelds. I think if Sony just cut back a bit and lowered the price, it could've done well. Did anyone really need 2 touch screens and 2 cameras? I know Tearaway made great use of them but all that hardware for 2 or 3 great games to use is just a sign it was overdesigned.
@@phamquanghuy8000 The UMD was just a game format, it's not surprising at all that it sold well. You went into a store, bought the psp game and played it. Memory cards are a whole different comparison.
The fact that they still haven't enabled USB3 and real gigabit speeds is utterly disappointing.
I was expecting more from the new docking station.
Impossible. USB-C HDMI alternate mode uses up all the USB3 pins, leaving only the USB2 ones. You simply can't do HDMI and USB3 over a USB-C cable at the same time. Not without workarounds, anyhow. They could switch to USB-C DisplayPort alt mode, since that supports using less pins if less bandwidth is required, and you can do up to 4K60 with only half the pins, leaving enough pins for full USB3 speeds. However, they would then need a DP-to-HDMI converter in the dock, increasing costs. Thunderbolt would be another workaround, but isn't practical at these pricepoints.
All that said, nothing stops them from delivering at least ~300 Mbps speeds over USB2.
Your first mistake was expecting anything from Nintendo
@@guspaz people have forced usb3 on switch btw, all it does it lower bluetooth singles lol
It’ll probably be a dlc unlock later on ;)
It's nintendo they do the bare minimum.
I got a nintendo switch oled and the first thing i love about it is the stand. The older model just has a flimsy stick kickstand that only realy works on a table. The Oled model has a super nice one that you can set at any angle, and you can prop it up on your lap with detached joycons. just being able to prop the switch up easily and at any spot or angle is worth 20 dollars.
I still think they should've made a dedicated 'home' Switch, packed with a Pro controller. It would be considerably cheaper to produce, and there are millions of people out there that don't game on the go.
If Nintendo was smart, they would do that…. Of course, if they were smart, they would release all of their old games on Switch as well.
Why would anybody but that system though? I mean, the WiiU didn't sell worth a darn, and the main chip in the Switch is so underpowered compared to the other stationary consoles, that no one would want to buy it. The switch-iness of the Switch is why you buy it.
@@predabot__6778 "the switch-iness of the switch is why you buy it."
I think the Switch Lite existing and selling as well as it has instantly proves that wrong.
It would make perfect sense to have a more traditional console version of the Switch, a large amount of people have never played their Switch outside of the dock.
@@predabot__6778 A lot of people never play on the go. Also the Pro controller is fantastic.
There’s definitely an argument for it! Perhaps they’ll do it as a budget option when they’re ready to release their next generation console though as selling an underpowered “home” console probably devalues the Switch ecosystem right now.
Reminder that network speeds are measured in bits, not bytes. Loved the review! Really appreciate you being so thorough.
USB bandwidth as well.
So is better that presented In the video?. I dont know much baour bits and bytes?
Glad you mentioned the underrated Vita. The display on that was enough in and of itself to convince me to order a Switch OLED
I've personally liked the premium look and feel the OLED Model has, and as someone who uses a full Switch in handheld mode quite a bit, I've liked the physical quality of life upgrades. I got mine on launch day and I've barely played any games on it because... Well... The download speed, as you mentioned, which is super disappointing for all Switch models overall. You can't bring your games/apps/updates/DLC over from one microSD card to another, you have to just redownload everything, so my Switch spent two solid days doing nothing but downloading all of my content.
2 days??? A game typically takes 20-30 minutes to download lol
you can transfer all games and save on a sd to another there is video on youtube that show how to do it, i'm gonna do it in 10min cause i've just got a new sd card
@@enzog1078 not over shit internet.
'Premium look & feel'? It's the same plastic as before...
@@pinkace nah the screen makes it look much more premium. And the kickstand is far superior. It’s mainly the bezel reduction but it looks 10 times more premium.
As a Latin American, watching MVG downloading stuff at Ultra lightning fast speeds and claiming its unacceptable makes me feel like 🤡.
I feel you hermano :v
What does you being Latin American have to do with it?
@@ohwell8765 kind of an old post here but iirc the speed at which MVG is downloadong far higher than the top tier, very expensive, speeds we have here
@@VagrantValmar me with Australian speeds 💀
Provence of italy too 🫡 feel you brothers
Just bought the OLED. I went in for the Lite but when I saw the OLED I really wanted that instead. I may also purchase a Lite later on. I am planning on mostly using it undocked but the ability to use it on a tv or monitor is nice to have. If I already had a Switch I would be happy with that but for $50 more you might as well get the OLED. A Lite to an OLED comes down to cost with the Lite almost being half price, its a big difference.
It is a big difference. $200 vs $350. That's almost 50% jump! Almost PS5 territory
I love that the PSvita is so incredible that the Switch keeps getting compared to it
Imagine how much Sony regrets not putting a little more effort i getting the Vita right, thy were a nat's hair away from getting it right, all they needed was a normal SD card slot, more first party games, I mean they have so much choice in that area, think of all the PS2 ports that would have played and look amazing on the PSV OLED screen, Dark Cloud 1&2 Vita edition anyone, not to mention ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, the Silent Hill games, a Resident
Evil games Vita collection, a GTA pack consisting of GTA 3/VC/SA would have sold like hot cakes not to mention millions of Vita's (now the NS has the tipple GTA pack coming, you watch how many it sells, mark my words, it will sell silly amounts not to mention millions of Switches just for that release), point is there was so much low-hanging fruit they could have easily ported to the Vita to sell consoles by the bucket load, not to mention all those IPs they could make new handheld orientated content for, I even heard rumours of Dreamcast games coming to the Vita, which would have been amazing, especially at the time, so much missed potential with the Vita. Still at least we have it now with CFW, thanks to having a native PS1 and PSP CPU it's perfect for playing PS1 and PSP games, especially on the OLED, you can have your whole PS1 library on the Vita, plus so many amazing PSP games in 2X native resolution, like Vice City and Liberty City Stories, both amazing games that look incredible on the OLED screen, the Vita even has a really good version of RetroArch, opening up thousands of classics that look amazing, again thanks to the OLED.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had another crack at it, releasing a PS4 level handheld, with the capability of playing most of its legacy library from PS1/2/3/4, as well as handheld versions of it's latest AAA titles, now that would sell gang busters if it was sone properly, remoteplay with PS5 would be amazing, another amazing feature of the VITA, that is RP with the PS4, it may have had it's control quirks, but playing the Last of us on the Vita was awsome back in the day.
@@Wobble2007 Sony did a horrible job supporting the Vita with first party titles. It was a good JRPG machine but not much else. In the long run it worked out for the best since they put everything into the PS4.
Count on the next major Switch update, whenever it happens, to bring performance up to the PS4 level. This is reasonable given where Apple SoCs already were back in 2018 and that Nvidia will be able to make something at least as performant with a cut down Orin SoC.
@@KoolAidManOG Given that the current NS is already pretty close to a base XB1/PS4, especially in docked mode, the NV Tegra X1 was and still is no slouch, it is a full fat Maxwell GPU with 256 cores don't forget, the next NS will quite likely use the latest Nvidia Tegra based SoC, which uses an Ampere or the Ampere-Next based GPU with 2048 CUDA or more cores, meaning the Switch2 will be far more capable than even the PS4 Pro, obviously it won't be in PS5 territory, but it will be capable of 4K for one thing, in docked mode that is, I'd imagine Nintendo will approach the Switch 2 slightly differently though, separating the specs between the dock and console, I.E having a second GPU in the dock capable of 4K, perhaps some type of custom SLI chip with DLSS capability to help out pushing 4K @ a stable 60 FPS, could also just be they design the dock similarly to a USB-C external GPU, putting a Tegra with fewer cores and RAM in the handheld console, and one with many more cores and RAM in the dock. This way they can also offer a cheaper Switch 2 Lite sans the dock. Who knows though really, it's just speculation, but fun to ponder.
@@Wobble2007 Nintendo won't do such thing. Why? Because of the cost of the hardware and all the technical hurdles they would need to jump. Nintendo is very cost-aware company. Today's level of performance for handheld systems that is at reasonable cost is something like Steam Deck which is what I would call "pretty close to PS4". In 2-3 years it might double and of course if they stick with NV then DLSS would be used extensively on such system so we might actually see quite high resolutions on such console. Given Nintendo cost-awareness I would rather expect them to make 1080p handheld, 1440p tops, give it ~2TFLOPs and call it a day. Why? No competition and no need to make it any faster.
@@Wobble2007 should be “gnat.”
"70mbs is unacceptable in 2021" that burns. That's my top speed here in Wales haha.
They did just release a 900mbs option though.... At a price
Mean while here in ONtario Canada I can only afford 25 mbps plus home phone (since I can't afford internet and a cellphone together)
Stop complaining 70 is more than enough
Here in Washington state living on 10mbps, to upgrade to 40mbps is a $9,000 install fee.
The games are far to large digitally, its not like 70mbs is slow in terms of 2021..
I'm totally fine with 70. I generally put stuff to download before work or before bed and I'm fine. I've looked at getting the faster internet. I think it's £60 a month plus line rental, but I generally don't need that speed.
The only time it pisses me off is when I get home from work and get stuck with a massive game update haha
When you remind me of the Vita OLED model releasing in 2012, it's depressing glaring how behind Nintendo has been at technology. Especially when you consider Nintendo also only fairly recently in relative terms got Bluetooth audio support, and that the original Nintendo Switch is the first Nintendo console with a screen that isn't sub standard definition in some form.
I remember when Nintendo used to be a bit of a powerhouse eg as far back as N64 and GameCube.
I don’t get how this doesn’t have more likes
@@AlexGray19 it's not just about graphics, although that was one of my points. But it's pretty underwhelming that Nintendo still yet can't get a decent online infrastructure in place (bad indexing on store, terrible on multiple device use, friend codes ect). Basic Bluetooth audio and HD screens arrived very late (those are very basic requirements, nothing to do with graphics). I like Nintendo. I want them to succeed and buy more of their stuff, but they really drag their heals when it comes to basic quality.
Nintendo purposely used older & cheaper technology on their consoles.
Not just for profit, they figured game developers could do better with technology they were already familiar with.
They aren't behind. They purposefully make cheap hardware for all gamers to afford
@@skycloud4802 about the internet thing, they recently started using a new technology for online games, but atm is used only for monster hunter rise and pokemon legends idk if it will be used for older games too. What bothers me is the lack of a browser to acces while in game, and the barebone home menu, the 3ds' home menu was definitely superior to the one on the switch
I would have bought one if it had a boost to performance, but sadly just the same Switch with a nicer screen.
I was hoping for the performance boost as well :(
@@Buggsucksatvideogames 4k visuals on a 720p screen like that would work
@@yarc9 Who said anything about 4K visuals on a 720 screen fool
There really is no reason to buy if you play in Docked Mode almost Exclusively.
@@yarc9 the switch can't keep up 720p on the 720p screen. A stable 720p/30fps is what they meant
"Before someone asks, there is no way to mod this device for homebrew." Welp, this video didn't stay current for long.
It’s only a matter of time until the homebrew community finds a way to crack the the system.
@@avatarlui9195 It was cracked before the video came out. The same device that works on the Lite works on the OLED, it just needs to be manually soldered with wires. MVG even has one in his Switch Lite.
@@AdmiralKird I see, I’ll probably wait for the scene to find new and more easier methods to install custom firmware on the switch as the current one I have bad luck with.
WHUT! You can mod Switches now? (I mean, ones released after the Joycon port hack was fixed...) That's really good news! I was watching this like "blah blah new panel blah blah who cares, can't mod it, don't want it."
@@nickwallette6201 I'm pretty sure MVG has showed pictures of his Switch Lite running homebrew before.
So, stick drift AND burn-in? I can't say I'm excited for it.
You'll still buy it though
Burn-in is quite rare if you actually take care of your screen. Don't leave it at max brightness and have some breaks to avoid having the same image on the screen for too long
@@AJ-xv7oh Never bought it.
The joycon drift is still an unforgivable flaw, expecting drift from these to be just as bad.
Buy a third party joycon
@@yarc9 3rd party joycons? What?
@@AchiragChiragg It means they are Joycons made by a different company besides Nintendo, I went through 3 sets of joycons in a few months, all had bad drift, then I got hori joycons and haven't had drift in over a year, seems like 3rd party is better than Nintendo's default ones.
Is it weird how I had my joycons for a year and they still dont have drift?
Better to buy a proper screw and openi up the joycon apply a piece of thick paper under the Joycon.. There's a tutorial on how to fix the drift. It's worth a shot rather than buying a new set of Joycons heck even a 3rd party one.
US$510 on retail in Norway. I mainly play my Switch docked anyway, so even before it came out, I was not really looking to buy it. I don't get why it's so expensive here compared to elsewhere though. It would be cheaper to buy an imported one, pay shipping and VAT, than to buy it on retail.
Probably Supply demand. Norway is a small Market in Europe compared to France or Germany so a lot fewer Modells are shipped there and with the current chip shortages this drives up the price. In my country i've seen prices for the Oled Model go from 349,99 EUR to 500 EUR depending on the retailer.
That's normal, bet where I live will cost around $600-700...
Norway has a higher earning average than the USA has. Prices follow the budget people have, nothing is really "worth" it.
All of this is nonsense. My Steam Deck is going to be the best Switch option around lol
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 LOL no with that niche device. Good luck for Valve securing all those chips and good for you that the preorder worked for you...
Nintendo is a GLOBAL brand known by non gamers, not Valve...
After I moved out, while I still owned my personal account and physical switch games, I was down a switch. Getting the switch OLED then seemed like a good idea, and in that case it was. I play equally on tv and in handheld. I really appreciate the sleeker design, it feels less like a flimsy toy now. People are viewing it like a $350 upgrade but it was never meant for current switch owners to buy as a replacement, same way as when they released the xbox one S or ps4 slim you aren't meant to view the smaller form factor as a $300 upgrade. It's a $50 upgrade for people already in the market for a switch, and atleast for me, the better screen size and quality along with the increased memory is worth that alone. The more robust and sleeker dock+switch cases and the increased battery life over my launch switch are nice bonuses.
4:40 that's mega*bits* per second, not megabytes. Megabytes per second would be MB/s. Quite a big difference and some people could get confused since many platforms like Steam show downloads in MB/s instead of the usual Mbps.
Correct. And at 11:58, those two chips next to the SoC are the LPDDR4 RAM chips, *not* the Flash memory. The Flash is soldered to the backside of the mainboard, behind another shield. Similar to the Switch Lite, and not like the previous Switch which had a replaceable eMMC module.
Just a little correction, the DL an UL speeds are in bits not bytes. Other than that, great informative video as per usual
@Extundo he already seems calm, you can relax tho
Game companies have release multiple “minor change same thing” systems in each generation so I’m not really sure what all the backlash is, especially for only an extra $50 over the regular model. I have a V2 switch I got maybe 2 years ago and I’m eager to trade this one in for an OLED, I primarily use my switch in handheld mode so I’m looking forward to the bigger screen and upgraded internal space.
What they need to do is release a standard size unibody switch like the lite, I think I’m about to snap by joycons off the base off of these days lol
If you have a switch already, it's a complete waste of money. For $50 your getting $10 worth of upgrades if that.
If you haven't bought a switch yet? It's still overpriced for the technology they are offering in 2021. But still worth it because of the first party games.
I mean the screen barely beats the vita which is from 2013.... its 2021. We should be playing on a 900p -1080p oled screen by now.
720p oled is an old technology for basically a tablet. for $50 more you get very minor changes which is not worth it all. people who have never use an oled panel and fast Ethernet speed might think it's worth it but by current standard it should be 1080p oled panel.
oh I almost forgot to mention.. we are in deep Nintendo's monopoly right now.
@@Andy-hi9do please tell me where i can find an oled screen, 32 gb extra of storage, a better kickstand, metal frame for the screen and a lan wireless adaptor for 10 bucks.
cuz rn you sound full of bullshit with that statement of just getting $10 worth of upgrades andy.
@@freezeframeplease when you mass produce it. It's very much $10 worth of upgrades.
What? you really think that old 720p oled technology cost money these days???? $100 tablets have better screen technology in 2021. Probably cost $3 a screen, $5 at most for a company like Nintendo.
As someone who worked in the auto industry who seen the process of making tool dies to punch out car parts. I can tell you the mold dies for the new Nintendo metal case, stand, and dock probably costed around $15,000 a pop and another $1,500 to maintain. Probably under $1 to produce them.... same goes for the ethernet port. and the extra storage on the same old motherboard?? That's where your extra $4-7 are at, your not getting a 120GB of the latest storage tech, so trust me it's not much more money lol calm down. Ultimately I might off a few bucks and it's really $15 total. But I can assure you, your not paying for $50 with of "upgrades". Seeing how the LCD systems are flying off the shelf at $300. I can guarantee you if they priced this "new" system at $300 they would still be making a profit... But why do that when they have people willing to spend another $350 for the same tech.
The only thing that's "full of bullshit" is your financial skills if you ask me, if you want to buy a polished turd by all means I won't stop you, bc that's exactly what Nintendo is trying to sell you.
@@Andy-hi9do of course production wise is gonna be cheaper. everybody knows that companies don’t spent shit on selling expensive things. but the only fair way possible to see upgrades in their production cost prices is when you’re the one implementing the upgrades. of course the technology is going to be cheaper for nintendo, but average people is not going to buy an oled screen and better joysticks to replace them themselves. maybe you have experience on modding or building things from scratch, but average switch users are not going to upgrade their switches themselves to an oled even if nintendo sell the parts at a low production price. maybe you and me yes idk, i’ve nodded consoles before and for what i’m
reading maybe you too, but for the physical quality of life upgrades like, not having to buy an extra sd card in some cases, or not having to buy a damn lan adapter, not having to buy some case with a better kickstand cuz the og switch one sucks, and sorry if i’m repeating but these accessories are not easily available at a bulk/cheap price. this switch is clearly a move to give the people who don’t own a switch the chance of a better switch at a not so of a bs price
Anyone that has run Linux or Android on a modded switch will know that the Dock can be used in USB 3 mode but that doing so makes the quality of the bluetooth signal much worse.
Nintendo developers have decided to make the Switch capable of connecting to up to 8 different controllers at once, and running the dock in USB 2 is a compromise to get this to work.
That's fine for the original models, but this has had both a console and dock hardware refresh. They could have fixed that issue for a premium version of a premium product, especially when they had so much time to beforehand.
@@Fune3 A "premium" version of a "premium" product with controllers almost guaranteed to break long before the console is outdated.
@@BobBobson Aw, you're right! I completely forgot about the unforgivable Joycon drift. It's amazing how little effort Nintendo puts into improving its products.
Okay. Well I have absolutely no use for 8 different controllers at once, so crank that bluetooth down and crank that USB up.
It would be amazing if a game took 4 hours to download with my internet.
I'm so sorry
Since I only use my Switch docked, the OLED is just not for me. We already have 2 launch Switches and 2 Switch Lite in the household and that is plenty for the 2 of us.
This just shows how far ahead the Vita was, damn you proprietary memory cards
I loved the Vita a ton. I'm not sure it was the proprietary memory cards alone that killed it to be honest, but they didn't help. Vita got such an unfair rep either way.
@@ProcrastinationHyperfocus Yep, both the vita and PS3 were too ambitious for their time
@@orlandofurioso7329 PS3 was a beast, that CPU it had was amazing
@@mjetektman9313 Indeed DosBox Otacon, indeed
@@mjetektman9313 only problem is not many developers knew how to use it
If you have one already, especially if you play it while docked most of the time. You're just wasting your money. I play mine handheld most of the time and it still works fine. I still don't see the justification on the OLED model. It feels like Nintendo is getting ready pretty soon in about a year or two to release a 4k switch or Switch Pro, then I'll consider it.
I'll bet you $100 this doesn't happen.
They have a successor system they have to market in the next two years or so. If they released a 4k Switch now, what's the selling point for the not too far off Switch 2?
@@JD-xz1mxhonestly with how much the portability was integral to sale numbers I don't think whatever the next system they put out isn't in essence just a switch pro anyway, hell just look at the wii u it wasn't a wii 2 it was just a wii pro marketed wrong
Same!!
have you seen an oled screen? i have a vita and it's like..the best looking display i've ever seen, if it's really the same then it's def worth it over the normal switch screen, which is garbage.
@@wingedfish1175 the forced gamepad use on developers is what killed the wii u... hell the gamepad requirement was what killed the wii u....
i will say though... due to being in the midwest and road trips being common -- plus educating people on power inverters almost every wii u i sold was on the premise of having a game console that could be used in the car as well as use the wii games
(the wii u only pulled 35 max watts of power.. a normal power inverter for a car is 100 watts which meant any 13 inch - 20 inch monitor could be used with it... i still use my wii u like this bcuz even if your in the passenger seat up front u can use the gamepad)
I use my switch almost exclusively in hand held mode, and as great as oled screens are, the switch light has a d-pad and doesn't have the flimsy feeling joycon slide ons for the controls and thus just feels soooo much better in the hands. If they make an OLED switch light, then I'd have a delima, but if I had no switch, and was offered a free one and had to choose between a switch lite and the new OLED switch as even up choices, I'd take the switch lite just based on how it feels in the hand compared to the joycon models.
D-pad is key for proper old-school gaming 👍
I understand completely.
I feel the exact same way about big boobies - they might look better but medium ones feel better in my hands.
@@amk8411 what a virgin thing to say
wait until you get joy con drift on the lite, it's gonna be a nightmare
One thing that doesn't seem to be getting much attention is the fact it is a glass panel instead of plastic - that to me is a massive upgrade
Hearing it's worse with glare, when it's portability is so important is a huge con.
Well yeah when pixels are turned off the reflection is more obvious no light to reflect away.
Probably the glass front
Can you elaborate on this?
i owned a switch lite and used it undocked or in a charging stand while playing.
I bought the OLED for the larger display and nicer quality, glass screen etc. I am not disappointed so far. owning a first gen vita since launch I know how nice oleds are and glad to have one for a gaming console again.
I agree and hope that they update content to be more OLED friendly tho without static borders etc
You swapped bits and bytes :) We will see if the OLED screen has burn in problems or not. But maybe with newer generations of OLES screens that problem is not so drastic.
It's a symptom of the technology and won't go away because the diode itself is something that wears out.
OLED burn in is the wrong term because it's not burn in, it's more like burn out. Because the diode gets weaker over time, that's what causes the image persistence unlike LCDs where the image is actually burned into the liquid crystal.
I bet it has same destiny as Vita with it's OLED. Burn in!
There's UA-camrs that have already had theirs on a frozen screen for over a week with no burn in. I think the average user will be fine. There's been over 10 years of improvements on OLED technology since the Vita.
@@bryanx0317 Wishful thinking from the same company who refuses to fix Joycons because they profit from the sales of new sets. I still have my launch Vita and it has no screen problems though. I think it's more of an issue for people who play at max brightness, but my Vita literally blinds me if I do so.
@@bryanx0317 a week is hardly any measure of the screen resistance to burn out.
Even high end OLED TVs are getting burn in after months of use as a monitor. Just check LTT or Bernacules for examples of less than a year old OLED TVs with image persistence.
Get back after several months of use. Either there will be burn out or the OLED will be noticeably weaker.
(b) bits vs (B) byte, also the usb-c bandwith should not be affected by the video signal since they aren't sharing the same tx-rx lanes through alt-mode.
Power transfered over signal lines ???
@SNES Nes power lines are obviously separated and always have been, even going back to usb 1.0.
there are many usb-c docks that do power delivery, hdmi and ethernet at the same time wothout issues or interferences.
the slow speeds are more likely because the switch itself can't keep up. even wifi ac on the switch isn't as faster as it should be.
@@sakitoshi you still get 3.0 on the old dock anyway so it’s not even a limitation of the switch itself. Nintendo knows people are modding their switches and hooking up external HDDs with eShop dumps so they nuked that option by releasing a switch that doesn’t even switch (no dock support in the switch lite) and a follow up switch with no usb 3 support and an essentially useless Ethernet port in its place.
@@StormBurnX I highly doubt they released the switch lite and oled with a gimped dock just to spite modders for some reason, Nintendo can be dumb but they aren't stupid. As of right now you can't even mod mariko switches (red box, lite and oled) so it would be even more stupider.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn you’re almost correct - you can’t *softmod* the mariko units, but there are hardmods that work reliably enough to count. And if you think Nintendo’s greed, laziness, and pettiness doesn’t extend that far then you’ve got a lot to learn because they’ve done stupider and meaner shit before.
Easiest case in point: releasing 3DS firmware updates that would literally brick your switch and require you to send it in for “repair” if you put a flashcart in (back before the days of manually flashing fw, let alone cfw). They’re neither dumb nor stupid.
Only had a few hours with mine so far, but I’m glad I upgraded. I’m partially sighted so always struggled to use the Switch handheld with most games (most of my handheld time was quick New Horizons sessions), but the larger more vibrant screen is a huge boon. Hopefully it’ll allow me to play a wider range of games handheld, and I’m really looking forward to trying more games with it.
Got the oled for the same reason, the classic switch screen size was a strain on my eyes
I just plug it to my high quality TV, problem solved. This should've been an upgraded model for the same price not 350$
@@Zeriel00 that completely defeats the purpose of handheld mode 😂
I had the old, bad battery switch so I wanted to upgrade anyway. Yesterday I played for 2 hours on my oled model and my battery was still at 88%. I don't regret my purchase yet.
but the old battery might need to be replaced, but those times, supposedly it was only like 30% better at most, you are reporting way better times
Most people would rather just want to a new switch than replace their battery
@@arch1107 If they have the old switch it may be one of the RCM capable ones. I got the oled one and I'm going to turn my old one into a homebrew machine, can't wait to play some of my old PS1 titles with it.
@@IdiotRace lol, i can do that without a switch on any pc i have, not seeing the point of homebrew, the small screen and the joycons are not for everybody
i think i wouldn't bother with homebrew
@@arch1107 you are aware that the switch is portable, right?
Sure you have a decent desktop, but if you're on a train I don't think you're going to be using it
The back stand is the best addition
It's amazing to me how all of these extremely intelligent, capable tech guys like vintage bro and Linus tech say things like "we need to wait and see whether or not oled will burn in over time".
Guys, it's organic. It degrades over time, unevenly. It's a known problem with the tech. The only reason why no one confidently says that is because the entire industry took that risk for the visual fidelity rewards.
Just accept it. 10 years from now, if you use the switch regularly, that shit will have issues.
We aren't too far off from a time where OLEDs on phones were burning images within a couple of months of regular use. Which wouldn't fair well for games that typically have static UI elements. It's more of a peace of mind kind of test to know that the implementation of the screen tech is a good iteration.
Keep in mind that OLED displays in phones do 1000nits plus of brightness, OLED TV's do 700-1000nits of brightness. This switch does 350 nits of brightness don't think burn in will be an issue
@@ak1996able even for those that limit their brightness on their TV's show burn in over time with regular use. It's the nature of the beast when it comes to OLED. It degrades with use, period.
We use the term burn in as a hold over from the CRT and plasma days where it legitimately means just that - you over excited a specific phosphor and permanently burned in an image.
That infers that if you don't leave an image on for too long, you shouldn't have to ever worry about an image burning in.
OLED doesn't work that way - a pixel degrades at an uneven rate which causes a noticable difference in brightness for a certain pixel, as one of the color sub pixels simply can't get bright enough anymore.
There are some ways for screens to handle that (such as a screen refresh that basically burns each organic pixel down to be the same brightness as it's neighbor...but that's a solution that hinders the brightness and therefore vibrancy of the panel), but in general, OLED as a technology is expected to not last.
That said, you will get more than a few years out of it while looking great. But for those that want quality to the point that you can expect the image to be as good 5-7 years from now as it is now, best go with LCD.
Yep. OLED looks nice. (Sometimes. Many of the phone implementations seem over-the-top unnaturally vibrant to me.) But it is this generation's plasma. It isn't the way forward.
In 10 years from now your battery will have died a lot of times. But no one avoids battery driven devices because of this. It just makes no sense just like there is no sense in avoid OLED. There is no reason to avoid the better tech only if you are a idiot instead if "burn" you screen you are burning money
Finally a handheld console with OLED like the original ps vita. Still hoping to see a new ps vita
The vita was so ahead of its time.
@@theakiwar9118 fr
@@theakiwar9118 whenever I see or hold a switch and wiiu they really remind me of the vita
I also hope so, if that happens I will take the latest PlayStation handheld instead of taking the PS4 and PS5 with a note that Sony has started to clean up with its newest handheld.
I miss my Vita🥺
I’m a heavy handheld user, so all the quality upgrades and the new stand, it’s really great! The OLED looks nice, and it feels like a premium device. Younger kids should definitely stick with the base model or the lite though, as the OLED feels much more fragile.
30 FPS is what gives me serious headaches so honestly my switch has been sat next to the TV collecting dust most of its life.
@@zerorig this exactly. Also the reason why I switched from consoles in general.
It's definitely much better for handheld and tabletop play. It's not worth it to me because I play docked nearly all the time.
@@zerorig what a snob
"I can get headaches from LCDs" lol, talk about 1st world problems
The X in Final Fantasy X is the roman numeral 10, that's how they choose to increment that series.
4:36 75 megaBYTES per second would be a good speed for a wired network connection, but you were getting 75 megaBITS per second, which is one eighth the speed you claimed you got, as shown by the lowercase b in "Mbps".
I'm sure MVG knows this. The guy is a coding genius
@Reclaimer Leviathan I can't disagree. He should have done a text correction on screen
@Reclaimer Leviathan ok
Me as I watch this on my CRT monitor: "Damn bro that OLED looks clean af no cap"
My thought the entire time watching this lol
"It took 4-5 hours to download a 27Gb game in 2021, frankly unacceptable"
Meanwhile I come from a 100-200Kbps download speed which would have taken me 5 days at least assuming I never pause the download. Honestly, when one gets too comfortable it becomes hard to accept anything less than near instant gratification. I currently moved countries and I live with downloads of 2-3mbs per second and I'm so thrilled to see me downloading AAA games in hours instead of days
Same gotta stay humble
Just downloaded Mario Party 10 to my Wii U - says it needs 3500 MB free space - and it was around an hour. So yeah, I would expect much more in 2021 - especially when a game is 20+ gigs..
On the note, I was living in the mountains for 6 years where the only option was a microwave internet at 1000kb/s - which was more like sub 500 - and the antenna had to be installed very high to see the tower above the trees - and there is always the bad weather to ruin your day. Now I have 100Mb fiber optics and it's the lowest in my area. So yeah, I feel you.
It's funny hearing MVG say those speeds are atrocious when I get less than a fraction of that where I live lol. I get what he was trying to say but it's still funny
Worse yet thousand dollar TV also have that same speed. (It's due to the USB 2 bottleneck)
haha yeah i feel you! i only have 9mbit/s down so the internet speed being slow via cable would not affect me at all
I'd kill entire worlds for less than half the speeds he's getting
You can actually mod the OLED switch in exactly the same way as the red box switch with a mod chip. Atmosphere does not yet support it though.
Are you sure?
jack favvv02 Yes. The OLED model has the same SOC revision as the red box model. Meaning the bootloader can be glitched exactly the same way using a mod chip.
I've jumped into the OLED whilst owning a gen 2 Switch (with better battery life). I sold this Switch to a friend of mine, so that comforted me to do the upgrade.
Zero regrets. I play handhed and on the TV more or less 50-50.
I've had a Switch for over 3 years and aside from the day I took it out of the box I've never once used it in handheld mode. No reason to upgrade for a screen I'll never use and an Ethernet port that is nice, but isn't worth paying $350 for.
And for me I’ve never hooked mine up to the tv. Maybe they should just make a handheld and a proper console separately like they originally had.
I had a launch edition switch and happily bought OLED since I play primarily handheld and the bigger screen, better colors and battery life have been worth it for me. Absolutely loving it so far.
It is insane they are still selling obsolate hardware for such insane price.
4 hours to download 27GB in 2021 LMAO nintendo.
And still same joycons with the same problem is a FU to all people buying switch hardware, it is just laughable!
well obsolete hardware is not the word i would use, clearly is capable of some decent graphics
but is indeed hardware for a tablet from 2015, in 2022 almost
the new switch will have better specs hopefully and should be here around 2023 i think
after all, the consoles are kept around for 5 to 7 years, switch has so far 5 years on market more or less
The hardware was outdated in 2012. Tegra X1 CPU from an NVIDIA streaming box UNDERCLOCKED to a mere 1Ghz. The GPU is also underclocked and the only reason it even has 4GB of RAM is because so many companies told Shit-tendo that the Switch needed more then just 2GB (some of which is used by the OS so games wouldn't even have 2GB to work with).
Nintendo always use older, cheaper hardware. They refuse to sell consoles at a loss and so far it’s worked out well for them.
I would like to know his methodology for the "real world" 27 GB download he did. Was he wired? Did he test another device with the same cable? Was the console in standby? My PS4 Pro will download and install games WAY quicker when it's in standby.
I'm asking for methodology because that definitely wasn't 75 Megabits per second. 😅
4 hours to download a 27GB game sounds like a dream!
That takes several days for me going 24/7
Thanks for testing it out. I got my first switch a month before this released, and know I only really missed out on a screen.
Though I have had a Samsung A3 before, and those amoleds are gorgeous.
Kudos on the Shameless Shantae plug MVG. 🤣
I've thought about getting the OLED but just decided to spend that money on a SteamDeck instead. The way I see it, we'll probably see the successor to the Switch within the next 2-3 years and I'd rather wait for that than spend money on a device with a better screen but the same internals.
Or an entirely new system that'll put the PS5 to shame. That would be better for third-party support.
Same as me I’ve reserved my steam deck which I will be able to purchase early next year also it is much more powerful than the switch and can emulate many other consoles instead of just switch games
Actually, I wonder if Nintendo really is planning on replacing the system that soon. They stayed with the original Gameboy and Gameboy pocket for 9 years before moving on to the Gameboy Color. And in a lot of respects, the GBC was really just a minor upgrade of the Gameboy, sorta like the Xbox One X.
I bought both an OLED and steam deck. But I'm more looking forward to steam deck. OLED has been great so far though, I'm loving the bigger screen and colors.
@Daniel G
Then why don't people just fight with tweets, videos and all that to get Nintendo to at least think about doing so, if not actually do it? Do they not care if Nintendo actually makes a console that is beefier than the PS5? Do they not want Nintendo to even try? I'm pretty sure Nintendo even knows their Switch has dated hardware.
I love the music you use for your videos! That intro is 🔥
Having purchased one on launch day, it's honestly a really nice system. Internals aside, almost everything has been upgraded, and playing games in handheld mode look amazing. Basically, like every reviewer that went out and bought 4 of these on launch day has said, if you have a regular switch that's still functioning perfectly, or even a switch lite, there's really no need to upgrade to the OLED model.
If you DON'T have a switch or switch lite, and you want the docking feature, then you can either get the switch OLED, or get a regular switch if you don't really care about the upgraded screen and put that extra $50 on a pro controller and/or some extra accessories for it. Really just depends on how much you're going to play in handheld mode, cause if you're mostly using it in docked mode, then save yourself the money and get a regular switch.
However, if you're like me, and your switch isn't doing so hot, then it could be a decent opportunity to trade your old switch in and get the OLED model. My switch's fan was sounding like an electric toothbrush after 3 years, so I either had to get a new one, or fix the fan. If you're willing to trade in your current switch for the OLED model, you'll practically be getting it for $100 after trading it in, which isn't a bad deal imo.
You won’t get 250 for your old switch in trade in LOL
@@Alexander_l322 If you have a hackable switch, people are willing to buy it for around $250-300. I was thinking about doing it but I got the switch OLED and am gifting the hackable switch.
@@jo54763 you have a treasure in your hand don't sell it
@@Alexander_l322 I sold my Old Switch for 300 on ebay, actually 350 with accessories included. Became 315 after shipping and ebay fees. Only morons go to Gamestop to get value for their consoles.
No. It’s a 7in 720p display with 4-5year old outdated internal components that chug trying to maintain a decent frame rate. Include a game, $20-30 memory card, and maybe a pro controller and the price tag is up there with an Xbox Series X and PS5. Wait for either a price cut or the next Nintendo console announced in either 2022/2023.
Well, this is, as I call it myself, a "Mario & Link" device. Beside those nintendo first-party games there are few titles exclusive to switch that are worth buying. Though I own a switch I still decide to buy MHR on steam to enjoy at 1080P60Hz
@@Dakkidaze also a lot of first party games are pretty old now and others aren't really up to the standards Nintendo had in previous console generations.
The OLED model is simply stunning. As soon as I booted mine up I was blown away. You'd never know it was only 720p. Putting it next to my V2 Switch, it was night and day difference.
Same. People saying "if you already have a switch then it's not worth it", have no idea what they're talking about. You can watch as many videos as you want but seeing the bigger screen in person hits different
@anil2 I actually buy the Switch V2 (red box) months before the Switch OLED because of what I heard from other UA-camrs discussing that OLED wont be that great upgrade in Switch because I am dumb enough to believe them but after the release day of Switch OLED the very same UA-camrs they said it was a huge upgrade from Lite and V2 and now I am thinking did I do the right thing buying the V2 before the OLED release...? also how huge really the difference between the IPS LCD and OLED in terms of visual...? I am a handheld player for about 70-80% because of work...!
@@gategaming959 there's a massive difference. The build quality is much better, the buttons are better. The stand is solid and can go in multiple positions. Then you got a stunning OLED screen, which is bigger. Play Zelda or Mario on it and it blew me away. I picked up my V2 Switch and it felt like a cheap knock off with a poor screen. The blacks all of a sudden looked grey 😳
@@ASuwan22 so I really did the wrong decision base on UA-camrs initial talks before they even have in on their hands...!!!
@@gategaming959 I'm afraid so 😭😭😭
I was saving for OLED, but now I'm leaning towards the Steam Deck
I’m buying a Steam Deck too….. after it fails and they’re on sale for $100.
@@muckymucks good luck with that. It will most likely be the other way around and get scalped
@@muckymucks steam deck uses an 800p screen. Overpriced. 2hr battery. The series s is more powerful. Just get a next gen system
@@AniviaS I’m thinking 3 years ahead when the Steam Deck fails. It’s another PSVita. It’ll have a dedicated but small user base. The storage and battery life are going to be the biggest problems for the Steam Deck. So many companies have introduced a fancier handheld to the market and they’ve all learned hard and expensive lessons. Now it’s Valve’s turn.
@@mikeuk666 well, if you want a portable console, is the switch or the steam deck, the other consoles need a monitor, speakers, controllers, a desk or a table, is not for the same people those two different ideas
Had the Lite, so the upgrade was absolutely worth it for me. It’s like night and day. For normal or model 2 Switch owners..maybe not. Traded my Lite as well as my OG 500gb PS4 with 2 controllers, since I have a PS5. The OLED was basically free for trading in consoles I won’t use anymore.
Also thanks for showing some Vita love.
After using my friends older switch and my OLED, I can definitely warrant an upgrade. $50 extra gets you a nicer, bigger screen and a MUCH better kickstand, as well as a little more storage if you end up not buying a micro SD. I play handheld a lot, so it was a no brainer for me.
Who doesn't own a Micro SD? 50$ for OLED is robbery it shouldn't be a different model, they should have just upgraded the Switch into this one. Nintendo is greedy and their fans will justify paying for anything, just look at the joke that is their online service.
MVG: Complains about a 27 gig game taking 4 hours to download
Me with an average Internet connection speed of 0.5MB up and down: ._.
Haha first thing I thought. First world problems...
@@xCARPx2014 It's easy to overlook things. You must live in a place that has caused your eyes to open a little bit wider. I wish you the best.
yep, was thinking the same :)
Damn, I get 100kb/s
MVG: 4.5 hour for 27 gigs is unacceptable in 2021
Me with a 40mbit copper: bruh
Brother, I had 8mbps for over 5 years until Verizon finally became available in my area so I totally get you lmao
Well I'm in Mexico so for me you are in the heaven
5mbit DSL gang, waiting for Elon space internet to download larger games
I wouldn’t even consider downloading a 27Gb game, I’d go to Walmart and buy the physical version.
I can relate, I can get up to 5mb/sec on a good day and that’s using my hotspot which is leagues better than my House Wifi. That only gives me 500kb - 1mb/sec.
I liked the way you tear each part and give a review about the hardware as well...keep it up....
the switch shouldnt even be the price it is now
As long as people buy it there is no reason for Nintendo to lower the prices. If you ask me, I wouldn't pay more than $150 for the hardware.
However, what people tend to forget is that Nintendo isn't a charity, even when they market themself as the "good child friendly console" compared to Sony and Microsoft.
The price depends on the demand and not the sum of components.
For example even if they sell Metroid Dread at $100 the demand would still be high.
It's the power of the brand over a consumer self-respect.
Supply and demand. The Switch has sold almost 90 million units and the OLED is going to get it over 100 million.
Why?
@@АлександрТерехов-ж3й because some consumers have self-respect and different tastes in games thus different opinion ))) But the power of Nintendo brand is still high they could sell their Switch at the price of the top iPhone and most consumers would defend that decision.
I always thought Switch looked way better on OLED. After playing it on my OLED TV, I couldn't bare look at the washed out IPS. Nintendo first party titles, in particular, look amazing. Mario's outfit looks red instead of pink. Wish there was a way to put an OLED display on a gameboy color.
An OLED GBA mod would be wonderful
EVERYTHING looks better with OLED.
12:30 no way ? Why would you Say that knowing the Switch internals are identical to the previous models, and those can be modded to run homebrew ?
The OLED model has the same vulnerability that the SX Core/Lite chips exploit.
The OLED model is moddable right out of the gate.
You're out $500+ by the time you by the OLED and modchip. Just get a Steam Deck at that point
@@zachcarmichael699 Yeah but... can the Steam Deck play Switch ga...... oh wait it does!
@@zachcarmichael699 That's not really a relevant point in what I was saying though. I was merely stating a fact I knew in response to MVG saying it couldn't be modded yet.
@@KarcusKorpse really? had no idea, tell me more
@@MrZuga89 steam deck can run emulators like yuzu or ryujinx
The main deal-breaker for me is eventual OLED related screen-burn... Maybe 1, 2, 3 years time or varies wildly dependent on User usage - who knows. Micro-LED (not mini-LED which is completely different) will be the real game changer... as well as Solid State batteries.
Remember in the previous model, screens were becoming marked and damaged due to the Dock. Wonder if this will happen again with the OLED model.
It sits much looser in the dock. Probably to combat that.
I wonder if the Ethernet issue could be fixed with a firmware update of some sort to enable USB 3 speeds at least
Enabling USB 3.0 on the dock is something they said they'd do later, even at launch, it's just not been followed up on, at least not yet.
I'll just save a lil bit longer, and emulate the Switch on a Steam Deck. 👌
Emulators are buggy
The steam deck 720p
@@yarc9 Dread runs perfectly from what I saw. Can you provide some proofs? Because Yuzu evolves constatntly.
The real Switch Pro lmao
lol, alot of people will do that
Maybe it's just the video but I find the OLED has too high blue levels and looks dimmer. The IPS panel make the helmet of Samus glow while the OLED version looks muted. As someone who likes the glow of CRTs and so on, I would actually prefer the IPS of the video can really be used as reference when watched on an IPS screen.
Even the Vita looks brighter in my eyes.
Would need to see it live and in action to compare it to my original Switch model and my OLED Vita.
Funny how 'joycon wear' though unavoidable over time, happens nearly instantly with the switch lol.
The new one has the SAME joycon parts, but a sturdier rail system, which is what that interview alluded to, not the sticks being better.
Incentives, when people keep buying new joycons, why would they change it?
I got a Lite just to play Botw. +300 hours later. No drift.
It’s bad. My sister has probably bought four pairs of joycons for my nephew by now. My launch joycons developed drift as well. I have a Lite as well and I’m afraid of using the sticks so I only play games that need a dpad on it.
My launch joycon got drift almost immediately. I played botw and Mario odyssey with drift for 7 months until I couldn’t take it anymore and called Nintendo. They fixed it only for it to happen again
I've seen on other reviews that the joycons seem to hold in more securely for hand held mode. Do you feel the same way?
It sounds like the joycon drift problem fix is theoretically "improved parts" so they last just long enough for the warranty to run out since I know they lost a lot of money having to repair/replace the ones that were under warranty.
Of course why I not suprise Nintendo also hate Right to Repair act 😒.
Fixing the joycon drift would be easy, and its not “improved parts”. The metal part on the back of the analog sticks slowly bends with usage, and that is the primary cause of the drift, as the components inside no longer make proper contact. The fix if you’re experiencing joycon drift is to shove a thin piece of plastic between the stick and the hull. The fix nintendo should implement is to just add a bit more plastic to tbe mould, though i suspect they would have problems in assembly due to low tolerances.
The only way better parts can fix joycon drift is if they seriously increase the thickness of metal plate on the analog sticks, for which there isn’t enough room inside the joycons.
@@bhirawamaylana466 Nintendo actually cares enough to repair things but what law says businesses have to repair consumers products instead of making them buy new ones?
@@bhirawamaylana466 I'm sure Nintendo doesn't like right to repair all too much, yet they still make it pretty damn easy to fix their products.
I have a "red box" Switch and won't be upgrading to OLED. I know first hand how nice an OLED screen can be since my phone has one. However, burn-in/aging is unavoidable in OLED display tech. This is somewhat acceptable in a phone since the device will likely be hopelessly outdated and slow by the time the screen gets very bad. But I like my game consoles to last as close to forever as possible, since I like being able to return to older games years later. The kickstand looks like a night-and-day improvement over the pathetic one in previous models and actually excites me more than the screen, but for $350... I think I'll just buy a Switch "play stand" for $10 and put the remaining $340 toward games or a better TV to play them on.
I say the Switch Lite is more worth it if you want the portable experience. Like we had OLED for so long i don't know why it wasn't the normal model on release lol
Agreed, but I think too many people are ignoring tabletop mode. I play tabletop mode all the time with friends. That on the oled is the best experience.
because of money they want to make more so they give you bare bones at launch and then upgrade a little over time.
I’d have double checked the cable and connection with a laptop to check for issues with the router or cable too.
Hopefully the speed issues will be patched on the fly with dock firmware.
One thing I’d have loved to have tested is a direct usb3.0 USB-C Ethernet adaptor to see if the speeds improve.
The Switch OLED seems like a non-starter for those of us who mostly play ours docked. The inclusion of an ethernet port on the dock is welcome, though, and it looks like battery life got a boost. As for DL speeds, I'm sure Nintendo's got bandwidth caps set up on all their users' network sessions, so the USB v2 vs v3 issue doesn't really matter. Not that that's a valid excuse.
This was such an interesting video I loved it!! I just bought a switch oled online today, still waiting to actually get it but I'm so excited. I already have a switch lite however I was wanting to upgrade so that I could have a switch that had docked mode so it made way more sense for me to get the oled and have the full nice upgrade rather than going back to a regular switch for that. I can't wait to see this beautiful screen for myself and be able to play switch games on the tv with my family :)
same here! Get mine on Monday..and it helps we will be able to sell the Switch Lite to help with the costs :)
Thanks for this run-down.
I recently got a V1 model for soft-modding and I love it, but I still find OLED screens to be quite amazing so seeing the comparisons is interesting.
When you say v1 do you mean the old original or the updated original?
@@jayle203 only the original non-red box switch can be soft-modded and even then you need to check the serial number as Nintendo made some updates to stop the joycon short payload injection method working before releasing the red-box update model. There are serial number checkers online.
@@jayle203 old original, updated original is V2
At Walmart the Original Nintendo switch is $ 325 dollars because it's without warranty!
And boy was that a big shocking thing in my face!
As someone who’s never had a switch before, I’d say it’s worth it.
Yup i buy it
Im kind of worried about this green tint issue everyone is talking about
"Mb" reefers to Mega-bits, not Mega-Bytes(with capital B) and a bite is x8 smaller than a Byte, meaning those 78Mb are actually about 10MB, just like OG Xbox.
byte.
Nice breakdown of the OLED model. I have no plans to get one at this time. My 1st gen switch is just fine. The screen burn in is something that is a concern as I use mine 98% in handheld and have tons of hours over the 3.5+ years now that I have had it. I’ll be watching for any burn in reports down the road. Zero issues with burn in for a regular IPS type LCD panel. I’ve been very happy with the switch over all and is my only gaming system. Sure I’ve replaced the battery after about 2 year but also redid the thermal paste while it was apart with arctic silver 5. Have a 1TB micro sd card. Both analog sticks have been replaced and also have clear joy con shells with a D-pad now on the left one instead of buttons. Yes Nintendo people do want a D-pad left joy con! The mini dock for the stock dock guts, also much easier to take with you vs the huge hunk of plastic that is the stock dock. My AC adapter went bad but a cheap replacement fix. I’m happy with the switch. Sure Xbox X/S or PS 5 power would be awesome! but not realistic for ~$300 system. They do exist but are in the $2.5K+ range, with like 30 minutes of battery life at 100% graphics. Overall I’m quite happy Nintendo 👍
Thats 75 megabits (Mbps) not megabytes (MBps)
And USB 2.0 delivers max. 480 Mbps, instead of 480 megabytes per second as mentioned in the video. Either way, 80 Mbps is too slow.
@@max_the_german4989 Well... It's quite fast for a lot of people. I just switched from 60 to 120.
MVG: "75 Mbps is quite frankly unacceptable!"
Me: *Looking at 13 Mbps speed test result*
You sure it isn't 13 MB/s and not Mbps? A lot of people get that confused.
@@DandySpace Yes, I'm sure and am aware that 1 MB/s is roughly equivalent to 8 Mbps.
@@napalmhardcore sorry, I didn’t mean to come across as an asshole. I just was more in disbelief that someone could have that low of a connection!
That’s rough that you’re dealing with those speeds man, my condolences
@@DandySpace No worries. Yeah, my local internet is pretty poor and my ISP is a complete joke (anyone from where I live would say the same if you asked them).
I get 60 mbps on a wired connection on my computer. So 75mbps is fine. Dude's just spoiled by fast internet I guess.
Just having a bigger screen would scream a huge yes!
If we ever get homebrew on the OLED, I'm in. Until then, my "home" switch sits in the dock, and is permanently online. My travel switch is never online, and modded so I can dump my game carts and play them on the move without taking their expense with me. That one is played handheld 99% of the time. So would be nice to have better battery and nicer screen.
What is the purpose of modding a switch
You sound good company?.
@@davewills6121 OK. Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but ok.
I bought the OLED despite already owning a launch model switch. The only reasons I did it is because I wanted a dedicated system for homebrew that I didn't need to worry about a possible ban on. My launch model has officially been relegated to my homebrew machine.
Second, I like the white and black model as it goes well with the PS5 as well as Metroid Dread.
spoiled boy
@@jamesgains23 That's cute, kid. I'm a grown ass old man. I'm well-paid in a career I'm passionate about and I have no children nor am I currently married. I can buy what I want, when I want and have the time to enjoy my life. How about you, what have you accomplished?
@@mph8er straight up aced all my classes with little to no effort (less than 1 hour studying per day), have a girlfriend and a lot of friends, i go outside every day (the club, friend's houses etc), i am well built with over 60% muscle gain in the last year and actually touch grass. I think that is some good shit for a 17 year old "kid", mr grown-ass man
@@jamesgains23 Jfc literally no one gives a shit lmao
I have the regular switch and I honestly don't think that having that one is worth it...Like really? I can't play games on the go digitally without an internet connection...Cell phones work perfectly fine and I don't understand how Nintendo skipped that part on a handheld
This switch should cost the same, i expected a bigger screen when it comes to screen to body ration leaving it with no vessels at all and higher game resolutions :/
We just had a heck of an inflation spike, so this is just a right-sizing of the price tag to match 2021 financials. The screen is just a decoy to make it seem less like what it is.
You don't get $15 minimum wage without a gut-punch to the economy, let alone the pandemic's many far-reaching effects.
My OLED Switch has a strong yellow tint. And as stated, it does not feel like a big improvement over the Lite for handheld play. The Lite has more going for it overall for this style of play (size, weight, dpad).
How strong is strong? Yellow (warm) tinted screens are closer to color accurate. MVG's looks far, far too blue (cold), and I wouldn't at all be happy with his.
@@BradHook Funny how it can vary among individuals. I drove myself mad with colour calibration woes for a long time, until I finally came to the conclusion that I really do not enjoy "colour-accurate" warm whites. Not that my screens are a blue mess, but just a tad on the cooler side. I've read so many times that you get used to it, and kept wondering why I didn't.
That's crazy. My lite (and literally 99% of the ones I've seen on the internet) are both 'warmly' calibrated and also much more washed out (lower color saturation) than my V1 switch
@@BradHook MVG's actually look good to me. In all cases, there is a lottery here and this should not exist. I had to buy my Lite used to make sure I get a white screen back then...
@@remondx8880It's just humans doing what we do best - being divisive. I'm so conditioned to warm whites that looking at anything but seriously frustrates me. Do you 'cool' camp people enjoy watching films at the cinema? Genuine question.
I'm still pretty happy with my regular model Switch.
I traded in my old switch for the OLED model for $130. This, imo, was worth it because I use my switch exclusively in handheld mode. I haven't even had my dock plugged in for over a year. For the price, I will certainly get my money's worth out of it.
how did you trade it?
@@GirlMeetsBrini Prob sold it and got the money and only paid $130 for the OLED Switch. So $349-130 = He sold his normal switch for $219 ($80 from the $299 MSRP price)