Building a Custom 70s F1 Car - rFactor2
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- The 1970s were a time of massive innovation in Formula 1. In the span of 10 years Grand Prix Cars went from the Cigar-shaped beauties of the 1960s to the Ground-Effect spaceships of the future. When looking back it is sometimes hard to appreciate the level of innovation which took place in this time. Luckily ChiefWiggum has put together one of the coolest mods I've seen for rFactor2 which lets you swap parts and build your own 70s aero champion Lego-style! So lets test out a few combinations and find out how much the same basic car really does change with these changes.
Mod: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Track: f3classictracks.sellfy.store/...
Email - gplaps67@gmail.com
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0:00 Intro
0:40 History
1:50 Mod Overview
4:54 Customization
10:08 Circuit Info
13:06 Test 1 Lap
16:18 Test 2 Lap
20:27 Test 3 Lap
24:56 Test 4 Lap
30:53 Test 5 Lap
35:09 Final Thoughts - Ігри
It would be cool to have a league where everyone starts off with the stock model and chooses research that happens over time.
Yeah that would be great for league racing , everyone starts with 100 research points , upgrades costs atleast 20 points,
Soooo Civilization but with cars?
Wasn't that what racing legends wanted to do?
@@thestarlightalchemist7333 I think it was something like that, but they more wanted to experience the life as an f1 driver back in the day, due to the driver usually owning the car
They should make an f1 game called like classics or something and it’s just like every generation of the cars and being to do like my team with any of the generations
The commentary cutting out to the sound of a crunch and black screen was kinda funny, but also a good reminder how many people died back then.
It's true, both Piers Courage and Roger Williamson both died in crashes at that very corner where GPLaps binned it.
They need a Can-Am version of this Mod.
USAC champ car too.
Lola T-70 mod lets you change parts to go from '65 to '68-'69. Mirrors, air boxes, tires, engine, etc.
I know it kinda doesn't make sense, but maybe there could be a way to make something like that work with 80s Nascar aerodynamics? I dunno. Would work great with Indycar though.
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I read this comment last night thinking how cool this would be. Woke up this morning and went to go download the F1 mods and saw that at 1AM last night a "sportscar 70s" mod was just released by chief wiggum.
Thank you for including the crashes! It's very clear how the cars out grew the tracks so rapidly and the obvious result of that growth. It was very interesting to see.
Been a subscriber for a few years now and I have to say the quality of your content the past few months has been so impressive. Easily one of the best sim racing channels on UA-cam.
The late 60s high wings attached directly to the suspension pick up points were far more efficient than the later solutions in the 70s. In general the higher the wing the more downforce you got per wing angle and having that downforce applied directly where it is needed made quite a difference. It’s only because these wings were banned that forced the teams to find other solutions.
You're right, although the reason the high wings were banned was because they were so large they generated too much downforce and would often cause the struts they were mounted on to fail catastrophically. I don't need to tell you when happens when a car being pushed into the ground by that kind of force is unloaded when the wing fails.
You'll have to explain because that doesn't make sense to me. Once out of the turbulent wake of the cars own bodywork, there would be no benefit for a higher wing. The air would be approaching the wing at the same speed, and in a laminar fashion regardless of its height, making the higher wing heavier, and heightening the center of mass of the car, while providing no efficiency benefits. Also, a wing mounted further back on a vehicle will act as a lever, multiplying its forces on the rear wheels in relation to how far away it is from the axle because the suspension/wheels are the only way for that force to applied to the road. This is much more efficient than applying that force directly to the suspension.
@@ZZPxFTW higher wings away from the bodywork are more efficient exploiting the cleanest airflow possible. See the rule changes for the 1995 f1 regulations where the fia lowered the height of the rear wing to reduce downforce. The optimum means to attach the wing pickup points is on the suspension as the load is transferred directly through the tyres. particularly in the more flexible chassis of the 60s and 70s.
@@rich1701 the FIA introduced many aerodynamic changes to the rules to reduce downforce in 1995. The primary losses in downforce were seen due to the rule changes for the floors, not so much the 10cm lower rear wings. I'm trying to understand how you believe "in general the higher the wing, the more downforce you got per wing angle," given the information I believe to be true that I mentioned in my last comment. Once past the turbulent boundary layer of bodywork - which isn't even that far off the body work - additional height would be futile for downforce and efficiency due to the air attacking the wing already being laminar. It cant get any "cleaner." My understanding of physics make me believe the downward force of the wing, regardless if mounted directly on the struts, or further reward, can only be transferred through the tires, which are the only things connecting the body of mass to a another body that can apply the force back to the car (the road.) There might be 1 or 2 newtons lost to chassis flex but that would be so minimal relative to the overall downforce created. Not trying to fight or be rude or anything, but I think its pretty fair to say that if the strut mounted, high wings of the 60's were any kind of efficient, they'd have been adopted by engineers in other motorsport. The 50's and 60's were the first time teams started running wings and using downforce, and the way these forces interacted with the cars was mostly unknown; the understanding of these forces lead to development away from strut mounted, table top wings. Like I said, if you know something I don't, or if I'm misunderstanding anything, let me know. I'm here to learn.
"Probably could go quicker through Oost" - the failure of a thousand rank attempts at Zandi.
edit - Haha, one attempt later and you binned it. The Tunnel is always deceptive. Looks flat; isn't.
I think a bit tighter on this version. A ton of fun lapping this circuit!
A car that customizable? You have my undivided attention.
Yep, by the legendary modder himself Chief Wiggum. He's the man behind the Cart '85 mod among others. The car parts are basically a lego kit you put together.
Any contact? Would have some project that might be interesting.
That "naked" starting config was like a monstrous Formula Ford! Very cool.
I got some hard core Lego Racers vibe from this.
Reminds me of Victory: The Age of Racing, just way less arcadey.
Loved Lego racers! That games ai is brutal though
That crash at 32:12 is almost identical in nature to the crashes that killed Piers Courage and Roger Williamson. They both went off at Tunnel Oost. The difference between them was that Courage went up the embankment like you did, whereas by 1973 when Williamson died they had installed Armco along the track which catapulted him back across the track on his lid, leading to his death in the ensuing fire. RIP to them both. It's so easy to die in these old cars. I thought you drove great!
I have loved all your "what if" fantasy efforts. This one is no exception. Great analysis.
Theoretically you could do this with AC right? There’s a few interchangeable wings and stuff on detailed mods. I’d love to see someone try this in AC.
It reminded me of when on rf1 you had to buy parts to improve the car during a championship
Interesting indeed. Those 70s cars with the aero were obviously quicker than the 60s cars, but they did look more difficult to drive. The drivers looked like they were constantly fighting them.
That's quite the little mod to toy around with.
Yeah, you were running up to 10 mph faster through some of that stuff around the back of the circuit on those couple laps when you crashed, which clearly shows there's more pace in it than the 1 min, 17.8 sec you finished.
It would definitely be great to have more engine options.
The time improvement is also impressive due to this being a shorter circuit, so the percentage pickup is better here than if you gained 3.2 seconds at a longer track.
I miss this UI for rf2. It had character and stood out. Made rf2 feel like it had a soul.
32:10
his final words: "this feels so scary fast"
Beautiful video beautiful mod. Thanks again GPLaps
SUPER cool mod, with custom engine sounds for the different engines and so on it could really become something.
Thanks, this is such a great video! I would've LOVED to have something like this when I was young in the 80s and only had books and occasional TV features to go on. I think it's equally educational and entertaining. Would love to try it out
The parts really do matter, I made one config, at low speeds the backend randomly snaps but is pretty fast when in a straight line. You really have to think about it, you can’t just pick random parts and stick them together or else you’ll end up with something unstable like my own.
Really great concept. Will definitely check it out. Great content, thank you!
Such a fantastic mod, the permutations are endless, and the chance to be your own Colin Chapman/Emerson Fittipaldi 👍🏁 Excellent video!
Wow, this was really interesting and such a creative use of the modding and car customization system 😉
I would love more of this!
Loved this one! It would have been cool at the end, once you had warmed up into the circuit and through the tech changes, to go back to the original bare-bones and take it for a lap to see how radical the changes felt.
Searching for this the last years. Thank you :)
Your enthusiasm of commentary, while lapping, gives a sensation of speed. Shred 🤘🏻
Man all the videos you do are amazing, I love them
man your content never ceases to amaze me. you're one of the most criminally underrated creators out there mate
I love how much you upload and how great the content is !! Thank you my dude
Great video! ChiefWiggum has a 80's version too, waiting on 75 mod historic update. Hopefully he fixes the engine options with a V12 Matra
Bro, you need to make more vids about F1 in the 70s those are awesome.
really great and interesting, thanks
ChiefWiggum is the best rFactor 2 modder. His models are great and he is very quick with building them.
I think youre dislikes tell the absolute truth. For me you are by far my favorite Motorsport UA-camr because you can almost feel your happiness through the screen. Absolutely perfect content.
That thing is sick
I don't know if anyone remembers this, but on rFactor 1, in game cars used to have that option where you would upgrade staff on the car visually and I remember it was one of my favourite things to do in the game before finding out about mods
Very enjoyable and the conclusion the cars got to quick for the older tracks .
That air duct that’s like having a 747 on your car is my favorite
i got this mod last week and i love it.
Building on the right at 00:10:34 looks like something from one of those very detailed slot car layouts 😁
Brilliant mod!
I would imagine you'd need to upgrade tires and suspension as you progressed... Cool, test!
coming back to this vid makes me want to buy rf2 just for this mod!
It's like Automation but with Formula One cars and the epic rfactor 2 physics (not that Beamng's are bad but *chef kiss* MMMMMM rf2 is just gorgeous to drive). Definitely give a shot and would be nice if there was some 80s and 90s cars as well but this is a great start
This feels like the BeamNG configuration, awesome
This mod is awesome. The same thing should be made for the 80s and 90s
I loved the video but you unfortunately missed the body styles, windscreens and you didn’t make your “ ultimate “ version, please make another video on this at some stage. I’d love to see some more designs that you could come up with. Love your videos mate, hello from New Zealand 😂
I know this is about aero..but I have always wondered…especially when talking about unsprung weight at the wheels…brakes are a significant amount of weight that could be better distributed in other areas…so, why not have a braking system that attaches on the drive axles..and more towards the diff. 🤔 Changing rotors would be a pain in the ass…however, especially for racing, wouldn’t it be beneficial to take the massive weight at each corner and move it in towards the chassis 🤔
Could be used as a roleplaying game... every parts 'costs' money and after every race, everybody gaines money, they can either spent it on 1 tier higher part, or do 2 races and get 2 tier higher part..
Proof that the third time's the charm!
rFactor rocks! 🤩
I drove a stock BMW 320 in GTL in Donington, changed the setup and was 1sec faster, changed it back to stock and ... was 0.5sec faster again. Outcome: Practice first. Optimize later.
This sim is super realistic, we use it in formula 3 to train the drivers!
You gotta give BeamNG another try! Big improvements in the latest update. The driving feels better than ever!
I'm curious how this upcoming Codemaster F1 title will turn out to be! It seems promising with a lot of new stuff!
MOAR! MOAR! I WANTS MOAR!!
(...of this mod. :D )
You know, last I checked the parts were purely cosmetic so I don't know where you found all that extra speed from.
what rubber settings have you been using for this test? The buildup can be quite massive from a green to a rubbered-in track.
I used a green track but it was reset between each car, so it should be fairly consistent to compare
Richie Axelson is a test driver in the off season now then?
Ok 2 years further, how is mod developed further ? @GPlaps ? Revisit ?
Did you use magnesium parts???
are you willing to come back to the table for a collab for automation/beamng after the big one that just happened with consider and shinyodd?
Though we don't have to compete, it can be a build together, and I can give you a copy of the joint mod to use in beamng or beammp. There's good spa maps, the old school le mans track, and other options
When is the next 1966 season video coming out?
Are you gonna be racing online today
Pretty interesting work, above all focusing on driving styles and high speed corners management. But I would like you to add one more rating, beyond lap times: driving pleasure and satisfaction... IMHO it's better with no wings at all or nothing more than what could help keeping contact with the ground on extremely fast bumpy tracks. Though, there's one thing I have to point ot about this mod: top speed is almost the same in all configurations... can't be!! I don't have rFactor 2, but just go in Assetto Corsa and compare the two 312 Ferraris ('67 and '75), or get back to the good old rFactor and compare the 1967 vs 1976 mods: before the eighties, trading speed for downforce had much greater impact!
Smaller improvements than real life F1 of the 70's......but it made a lot of sense since in this there isn't another huge factor that was improving from year to another..... TYRES
Test driver no.3, please ;)
This is fucking porn omgggggggggggg thank yoU GPLaps you are the Ron Jeremy of vintage racing simulations
Can you do a custom Can-Am car?
Bigger air
RIP 32:15
"That's gone well!"
Jeremy Clarkson
Literally the one and only thing I dont like about 70s f1 cars is the rear wheels stuck out farther than the fronts. Dont get me wrong it looks sick but it makes judging appex clipping points soooooo sketchy
Position to rename Mexico hectorco
The last one looked unbalanced , needs a different frontwing
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@@hackerkm bin laden
I would have preferred it not to be talked about all the time.