I love George and i gotta tell you ,him coming back in his 40s and knocking out a 20 something Michael Moorer with a simple quick 1 2 combo cements him as one of the all time greats. Foreman would have knocked out Tyson i believe. And when knocked Moorer that was nearly the upset Ali knocking him was and guess what Angelo Dundee was in both winning corners.
George has said himself that he went into the fight the most confident he ever felt, saying, on many occasions, that he was not even nervous and was positive of winning by a knockout within 2 to 3 rounds. 2 Top reasons Ali won the fight. 1 - He was more experienced, having beaten great fighters, including the so called monster, Sonny Liston, and avenging his losses. 2 - Although both men were tough in the ring, Ali was a lot smarter.
Two giants of boxing. Just too bad Foreman have to go against Ali. But Ali taught Foreman something and Foreman used that to regain his title 2 decades later.
I love how they mention Zaire as a country and decided to reach with the black magic stuff but left out the oppressive heat the morning of the fight. Even early in the morning the temps were in the 80s/90s and climbing in a humid outdoor climate. This wasn’t as severe as Ali’s fight in the Philippines years later but still a significant factor. Ali’s conditioning was out of this world for a heavyweight and Foreman, used to ending fights early, was not prepared for a lengthy brawl in the African heat wasting punches on Ali’s masterful defense. It wasn’t any more or less hot for Ali but Ali used it to his advantage while Foreman was a victim of it. This deserved to be mentioned much more than some witch doctor bs.
@NoName-ch2wg George didn't fight all of the guys Muhammad fought. Ali have five losses only and 56 wins, 37 knock downs. Plus Muhammad was a way more superior greater boxer than George.
actually george is 6-3- 9/10 of a in. and Ali is just a little over 6-3 when they fight you see George is just about a 1/2 taller ,Thats why he lost I'm sure .
A boxing list I'd do: The top 5 reasons you can't blame Richard Steele for the controversial ending of the Chavez-Taylor fight. Best of the Rest 1. The legacy - although Steele might have been too impulsive in stopping the fight, it was a better fight than expected. 2. Don King - many felt that Chavez, represented by King, got some points just on name alone. Top 5 5. Nevada State Athletics Commission - they gave him the fight in the first place. 4. One Night in Tokyo - one reason that this fight was even set up was to generate more excitement for boxing, and the incentive was Douglas knocking out Tyson. 3. Julio Cesar Chavez - while he lost the majority of the rounds, he came on strong in the end, and finally fought his own fight in the final few rounds. 2. The corner - they told him to get into a slugfest, which was horrible strategy against a fighter like Chavez, and Lou Duva reportedly tried to give him directions during the final seconds, which distracted him when Steele asked him if he was okay to continue. 1. Taylor was done - I've always put it this way: he had the fight of his life, but against the wrong opponent. Chavez's punches were so brutal that he took an absolute beating. In fact, he was so disoriented that he almost knocked himself out during the final round by slipping on the ground, and went to the wrong corner one round before. Looked at a certain way, Steele's decision saved Taylor's life.
There were some reason that ALI had a 15 round boxing experienced while Foreman finished most of his matches 2, 3 or 5 round so ALI could stayed long in the ring in comparison of Foreman and ALI had a great quality to absorbed punishment and he got same in this match too which tired Foreman . Reason can be many but the truth is that ALI is the all time Greatest no doubt .
Can I add , Mohammed was lighter and faster and dodged most of foreman heavy punches , Ali used his stinging jab to wear him down , letting the heavier man tired himself out come the 8 round foreman was knackered and Ali knock it up a couple of gears and knock him out - fair and square , no if's or but's ! Ali show the world he was the greatest heavyweight champion of all time ! THE KING OF KINGS .
In pre fight press conference for Ali - Norton 3, Bill Slayton the trainer of Norton brought up why former Foreman trainer Dick Sadler is in Ali camp in fights after Ali beat Foreman, brought up Sadler poisoning Foreman's water bottle. Ali got very upset yelling at Slayton and Sadler was never seen in the Ali camp again. This is talked about in great book In The Corner.
They forgot to mention that he was the first Heavyweight Champion to visit Africa 10 years earlier and was welcomed with open arms. The Africans never forgot that!
Ali did not have the power that was possessed by foreman but still took a lot of punches. And knock him out. Only Ali can do unbelievable things. That is called greatness. When no one believes you. You came up like a man
I've never been a fan of Muhammad Ali except after he retired and have to admit this one of the greatest boxing performances ever. I put it in the top ten. Muhammad Ali was absolutely brilliant in this fight.
Foremans loss to Ali is a lost victory...he was young and his personality too inmature...after flattening literally everybody before this fight and just coming from destroying 2 of the hardest nuts in the heavyweight division who both beat Ali (Frazier & Norton) he clearly suffered from hubris...he committed the capital error of underestimatng Ali and overestimating himself at the same time. Ali knew after 2 rounds he couldnt defeat the physically vastly superior Foreman so he adapted his style...started the rope-a dope to maintain his head out of Foremans reach and constantly provoked Foreman verbally...so while Foreman got angrier he threw more uncoordinated punches who exhausted him over time without seriously hurting Ali...we all know how that ended. So Alis achivement here is not that he was the better boxer (he was not - not at that time anymore) but the smarter, more cool headed warrior who used the younger guys hubris against him. Foreman has beaten himelf in Africa...
No doubt , George Foreman was one of the best heavyweights to ever live , but why people then say Ali was the greatest ? thats because he was more than a boxer, he was one of the greatest humanitarian. He was a great boxer but even greater outside the ring. He loved people genuinely, meeting them, talking to the. Stood for blacks against Vietnam War when no one else did. And for that he got striped of his title when he was at his most prime years. the fact that even his fiercest opponents love him and say good things about him tells the kind of man he was. Just see any video of joe frazier, mike tyson or even George Foreman talking about Ali and you ll know .... and also you will find many videos of people on UA-cam remembering Ali and crying for him, discussing their tiny life events with Ali that had a life changing impact on them. He was not a boxer, He was an Idea , a concept , A Symbol, An Icon ........ for the people and the world......
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this fight also scheduled for 4 a.m. Kinshasa time because the American TV stations wanted to air it in prime time?
Poor Angelo always getting accused for loosing the ropes in the rumble of the jungle But if any of these idiots watched the fight they can hear him yelling “get out of these ropes Ali “
Go and watch the full game you will hear clearly saying that .... Norton and Frazier both destroyed Ali when he was on the rope Angelo didn’t want that to happen again
Bro you aren’t making any sense You obviously clueless Whats your point here ? Angelo made the rope loose so Ali can get away with the rope a dope strategy ?? And no dumbass I boxed I know how boxing work I have watched all of Ali’s game fully in one point of my life
@@badsolja1 Neither Norton nor definitely not Frazier destroyed Muhammad when he was on the ropes. Muhammad won against Frazier in all three of their matches and Muhammad won against Norton in their second match (but i will say he lose the first match & third match). Ali's fast hand speed, fast foot speed, dancing, bouncing in the ring, bob & weaving his head, able to take hard punches, constantly throwing punches and constantly throwing combination punches. is which cause him to beat big George.
Even using the rope defense.ALI still took some hard punches 🥊 to the body and even to his face. So this wasn’t easy but his boxing IQ is what gave him a advantage over Foreman. Float like a butterfly 🦋 sting like a bee 🐝. He really was the greatest R.I.P champ
Foreman lost on points to Jimmy Young,who has a very similar style to Ali but is a bit smaller.You should watch this fight and then tell me the chances of Ali beating Foreman again.
Leigh Downer Well if you try to compare other fighters let’s talk about Forman and Frazier He decimated Frazier quickly 2 out of 2 Frazier knocked Ali out and almost if not beat Ali 2 other times. Foreman was on his way down in his first career when he fought Jimmy Young. Foreman significantly changed his style to be coy and wait conserving his energy to throw a knockout blow. I believe he would have fought Ali differently the second time I also believe Foreman would have knocked him out
First and for most is these two men was two greatest of all of them..Big George clean out the heavyweight. division never before have we seen a man just knockout all top fighter of his time he knockout out Frazier and Norton two of the best of his day...Now styles make fights Ali got in to Foreman head number one from the beginning..Had a country behind him....Now people say rope a dope but they don't look at the fact Ali stood up to him Foreman wasn't use to that....Ali was the best at mind games if you can get in a man mind..And even. in the fight talking trash all night long all of this and Ali could take a punch....Foreman didn't stand a chance....He was trying so hard to knock Ali until ,I believe he beat him self...This was boxing at its best when fighter fought the best..
Joe Frazier went, "Wow, Muhammed Ali knocked out the man who knocked me out." At that point, Frazier was humbled and knew that Ali was a greater fighter than himself.
We saw a similar fate befall George Foreman when he fought Jimmy Young. Big George just couldn't cope with a clever boxer at that time in his career. Ali beat Foreman fair and square.
Ali was smart, but he had the courage to take those formidable punches from George. Even Frazier was wanted Ali to win because he knew that he cannot take Foreman. Who is willing to take this kind of punch, and say "is that all you got sucker?". Remember Ali had his jaw broken by Norton for he was hit while he was talking. If I were Ali, I would never talk in a fight. But he were willing to play with him. . If the fight were get longer no doubt that Ali could have killed him. George was stumbling from the 4th round. Ali was smart enough to fight in that way, in that city, in that condition. He chose Zaire because he knew that in that city Foreman would be tired. He danced in the first round while in the second didn't cos he was trying to tire up George and and keep his own strength. He leaned on the ropes, and on George sometimes, not to lose his stamina. Yes, you could have said that George was the best puncher of the time. But Ali showed in order to be the best you should not be a hitting machine. you should be Courageous, patient, smart and motivated enough to get what you want. He made it. Nobody could.
I can't help but feel bad for big George, he was at an unfair disadvantage, the people hated him for no reason really!!! With the crowd being so hostile that HAD TO BE a factor in his loss!!! Another thing, it is a known fact that Ali did dodge the rematch, and do you know why??? Because he knew Foreman wasn't going to fall for the same strategy that worked in the previous bout
Foreman did not land the same punches he landed on Frazier and Norton. Outrageous comment. Frazier and Norton were hit flush on the jaw with consecutive haymaker bombs. Foremans only clean head shot was in round 3.
It's worth pointing out Ali never gave Foreman a rematch. I think deep down he realized he caught lightening in a bottle in Zaire and if they ever fought again Foreman would be properly prepared for the "rope a dope" strategy. Plus, a rematch would probably have been fought in the States--(like Madison Square Garden)--also a benefit to Foreman (who was NEVER comfortable in Africa--which in my mind was as much of a contributor to his loss in that fight as anything else.) Honestly, if they had a return bout I think Big George could've beaten Ali!
True.Ali would have lost to foreman the second time.Dont get me wrong Ali is one of the greatest but he just got plain lucky in the first fight because of the ropes and he knew that ,thats why he didnt fight foreman the second time.
But you shyed away from a big one and Foreman addressed it at long length after he worked over the 5 guys. He objected to the fact that a boxer should not be allowed to lay on the ropes alot of the fight and when ali first started doing it he was booed as unsportsman like. In the older fights a person was not even allowed to crouch over the ref would stand the person back up. On Liston 2 after the knockdown he did get back up and the fight continued. Ali threw a few punches no contact AND THE FIGHT WAS STOPPED IN TWO SECONDS. "they said Ali was throwing unanswered punches" He would have lost anyway but what if Liston simply layed on the ropes for 2 or 3 minutes? they would have stopped the fight based on that alone. Yet within a few years it gradually became "genius strategy" Laying on the ropes indefinitely should be scored accordingly or deductions or ref step in and say "get back into the ring"
Ничего Себя yeah just like the 3 legitimate goals they had disallowed in the world cup in Asia, but this case is the manager fault, but we have won it plenty of times, I'm born in England my dad is Italian my mums side is Scottish and Irish, but I'm a boxing fan way more than a football fan
@@Boss3Nate there's a million article's on this subject.Foreman was off in 75 and was not seeking a rematch ,they where going to fight in 77 but Foreman lost to Young and retired.Ali fought all the time never ducked anybody.
@@evanbarr9270 yeah I've read the articles where a rematch seemed like a formality.. Foreman wanted it and the fans wanted it and Ali was known for giving them. I've always read Ali denied him the shot. Ali fought Wepner, Lyle and Bugner after Foreman... non deserving of it
@@Boss3Nate wepner ,lyle , Bugner where all warm up's for Frazier ,all in 75 while Foreman was still getting up .they did not start to negotiate until Foreman became the 1 contender late 76 ,If Ali could beat Norton in 76 ,and Shavers in 77 he might still be able to sneak a decision. But let's face it by then it was just a matter of time before it was over.The fight I really would love to see is Holmes and Foreman 77-78-79.
he had to defend against the 1 contender once a year .Frazier ,then Norton .when George was 1 again in 77 he lost to Young and retired .was not Ali#'s fault
I Will say this so this was Ali greatest achievement, anywhere else he'd of lost but in AFRICA, Ali no chance he went into like a spiritual realm, but forman in the USA would of smashed him
Big George just wasn't the brightest bulb around. Also too slow. Little defense too. Foreman looked drunk out there. LOL. Now Tyson had a lot more going for himself. Tyson was tops ….well for a couple years anyway. Down goes Frazier!!! LOL Poor Frazier.
Ali continued to lean on him waring him down. Sometimes it looked like a wrestling match instead of a boxing match. The referee didn’t do justice he should have broken Ali stopping him from his antics. The fact was Ali played it smart conserving his energy in the humidity and heat by letting Foreman chase after him Foreman throwing his best punches till he couldn’t throw anymore. I believe if Ali would have had a rematch with George he probably would have lost
To those who say foreman lost because he faced Ali. That is the lamest and weakest answer Let's see it logically, Ali got knocked out by Frazier yet foreman destroyed Frazier. Ali got beating by Norton (put him to hospital, with a broken draw) yet foreman destroyed Norton.
True.Ali would have lost to foreman the second time.Dont get me wrong Ali is one of the greatest but he just got plain lucky in the first fight because of the ropes and he knew that ,thats why he didnt fight foreman the second time.
Two prominent combatants met for the right to be champion. One possessed a keen wit and rapier-like skill. The opponent wielded the power of a broadsword and moved with a single-mindedness of predator stalking prey. Any sports historian or boxing fan can easily identify which fighter fits their part of the analogy.
You can't say that. If Ali fought foreman in USA he would have used the same strategy. Remember foreman did not have the stamina to get along in 12 round with Ali, and he did not have alternative plan. Ali could have taken him in 10th round in USA. Ali could take every punch. If he fell down he would get up, like when he did it in Ali vs Frazier. Even in USA because of tempeture Ali could dance in more than one round, say 3 or 4 round and this would get tired the big Foreman. Ali went to the strategy and foreman went to the power.
I am looking at the woman that Ali left the plane with ,question.is that his wife or his mistress from Zaire?i do know he was cheating on his wife while in Zaire,that was in the movie "when we were kings".
Nonsense....ali was a smart boxer, george foreman was out of gas,he used all his strenght so ali can knock him with all his sttrength..foreman was so confident that is why he lost
People giving very nonsense and stopid reason of losing of forman losing bullshit forman never be boxer like Ali claber forman was not good and skild boxer just dirty power to push opponit hold them hands and hit hard Ali was genious outstanding fighter I can't believe people telling magic assol even Ali not beat forman properly he tired forman
HA?? :D Why on earth would ANYONE "blame" Gorge Foreman for ANYTHING?? XD :D You want to "blame" a Boxer like "Big George" for anything?? - get on the Ring and say it to his face! :D :D
George Foreman was to blame for his lost: He was not a boxer. He was a brawler. He thuggishly had worn himself out. There lies the blame on George Foreman.
Ali never beat George the score cards show the judge who had it on for George and the three who called the fight fairly . It was pretty close then three of changed after half the fight and kept coming up with George winning big time
Foreman,Fazier and at least four or more other had better career than Ali . So him being the greatest boxer ever is a joke . Rocky Marciano was Undefeated That means he never lost once . Ali regained his title six times that means he was beat. So give credit where credit is do and quit giving it to a paper champion.
Your jealousy is shining thru when you don’t have the balls to admit Marciano was the only boxer to ever go undefeated. He never lost it and had to regain it because he was that good. Ali got Foreman in a headlock which is illegal in boxing he got rabbit punched which is also illegal and Kidney punched and hit below the belt all of these are illegal yet they let Ali get away with with it countless times . So yes Ali was a paper champion .
Tell you lies majik 0715 they seem to make you feel better . You live vicariously through what you think Ali did or I should say what you want Ali to be
People so dumbed and jelius on Ali black magic and many stopid excuse sham on those people Ali was greatest world champ not ordnery boxer forman beat badly to Ali but only just take this powerful hit he took if was other boxer he will dead this very powerful woping
GOTTA love a fighter that openly admits why he lost. Big George forever!
George is a gentleman.
Indeed, He rediscovered himself after losing his fight to the G.O.A.T.
dorsal 2008. That's because Forman is not afraid to tell the truth.
I love George and i gotta tell you ,him coming back in his 40s and knocking out a 20 something Michael Moorer with a simple quick 1 2 combo cements him as one of the all time greats. Foreman would have knocked out Tyson i believe. And when knocked Moorer that was nearly the upset Ali knocking him was and guess what Angelo Dundee was in both winning corners.
Absolutely. There were actual excuses that he could have used but he never has. Integrity means a lot
@@frederiksaraber4093 lol there's a long list of excuses that George made ,it took a long time for to change his tune
George has said himself that he went into the fight the most confident he ever felt, saying, on many occasions, that he was not even nervous and was positive of winning by a knockout within 2 to 3 rounds.
2 Top reasons Ali won the fight.
1 - He was more experienced, having beaten great fighters, including the so called monster, Sonny Liston, and avenging his losses.
2 - Although both men were tough in the ring, Ali was a lot smarter.
One of Ali's most underrated attribute -- he could take a punch.
Nelson Montana Fuck me he took astounding blows to the fucking face and got straight back up, Ali G.O.A.T.
You said it all right there. Ali was tougher than all of them. He just didn't give the physical impression of it because of how he looked.
To put Ali's abilities into words, IS to underrate the man
And some people think Mike Tyson would drop him immediately.Bullshit.
@@utoresa5193 Ali is way too smart to let Mike get him.
Two giants of boxing. Just too bad Foreman have to go against Ali. But Ali taught Foreman something and Foreman used that to regain his title 2 decades later.
Billy said it "Ali was a Genius" that's what many People still don't get.
Ali," if he don't take me out in 7, his parachute won't open"
I love how they mention Zaire as a country and decided to reach with the black magic stuff but left out the oppressive heat the morning of the fight. Even early in the morning the temps were in the 80s/90s and climbing in a humid outdoor climate. This wasn’t as severe as Ali’s fight in the Philippines years later but still a significant factor. Ali’s conditioning was out of this world for a heavyweight and Foreman, used to ending fights early, was not prepared for a lengthy brawl in the African heat wasting punches on Ali’s masterful defense. It wasn’t any more or less hot for Ali but Ali used it to his advantage while Foreman was a victim of it. This deserved to be mentioned much more than some witch doctor bs.
They both stayed and trained there for weeks.
Foreman has five losses only and 80 some wins
He fought the same guys Ali fought
@NoName-ch2wg George didn't fight all of the guys Muhammad fought. Ali have five losses only and 56 wins, 37 knock downs. Plus Muhammad was a way more superior greater boxer than George.
Foreman 6′ 4″, not 6′ 3"..
Also, the 6th reason is that Ali had a much higher and superior boxing IQ than unemotive George Foreman.
I met George, I am 6 feet 4, we were eye to eye
@@Chuckychazza at what age was he?
@@iggmeister4137 it was around 20 years ago
he is listed as 6'3" sometimes 6'4" probably 6'3" and a bit Ali was 6'2-1/2" sometimes listed as 6'3"
actually george is 6-3- 9/10 of a in. and Ali is just a little over 6-3 when they fight you see George is just about a 1/2 taller ,Thats why he lost I'm sure .
A boxing list I'd do:
The top 5 reasons you can't blame Richard Steele for the controversial ending of the Chavez-Taylor fight.
Best of the Rest
1. The legacy - although Steele might have been too impulsive in stopping the fight, it was a better fight than expected.
2. Don King - many felt that Chavez, represented by King, got some points just on name alone.
Top 5
5. Nevada State Athletics Commission - they gave him the fight in the first place.
4. One Night in Tokyo - one reason that this fight was even set up was to generate more excitement for boxing, and the incentive was Douglas knocking out Tyson.
3. Julio Cesar Chavez - while he lost the majority of the rounds, he came on strong in the end, and finally fought his own fight in the final few rounds.
2. The corner - they told him to get into a slugfest, which was horrible strategy against a fighter like Chavez, and Lou Duva reportedly tried to give him directions during the final seconds, which distracted him when Steele asked him if he was okay to continue.
1. Taylor was done - I've always put it this way: he had the fight of his life, but against the wrong opponent. Chavez's punches were so brutal that he took an absolute beating. In fact, he was so disoriented that he almost knocked himself out during the final round by slipping on the ground, and went to the wrong corner one round before. Looked at a certain way, Steele's decision saved Taylor's life.
Rest in ☮️ Bert Sugar.
There were some reason that ALI had a 15 round boxing experienced while Foreman finished most of his matches 2, 3 or 5 round so ALI could stayed long in the ring in comparison of Foreman and ALI had a great quality to absorbed punishment and he got same in this match too which tired Foreman . Reason can be many but the truth is that ALI is the all time Greatest no doubt .
I would've rated Zaire much higher mainly because Ali was more the hometown hero while George was the villain.
There's only one reason big George lost: he was fighting with the greatest, full stop.
Microsoft Office 95 he offered him one, george declined. he said so in his own biography he was done with boxing.
Otb tl that is true just becuse of jeorge never los that was his fast lose
Can I add , Mohammed was lighter and faster and dodged most of foreman heavy punches , Ali used his stinging jab to wear him down , letting the heavier man tired himself out come the 8 round foreman was knackered and Ali knock it up a couple of gears and knock him out - fair and square , no if's or but's ! Ali show the world he was the greatest heavyweight champion of all time !
THE KING OF KINGS .
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In pre fight press conference for Ali - Norton 3, Bill Slayton the trainer of Norton brought up why former Foreman trainer Dick Sadler is in Ali camp in fights after Ali beat Foreman, brought up Sadler poisoning Foreman's water bottle. Ali got very upset yelling at Slayton and Sadler was never seen in the Ali camp again. This is talked about in great book In The Corner.
It's doubtful that it was a coincidence that Sadler was in Ali's camp after what happened in Zaire.
I never read that book. Sadler poisoned Foreman's water bottle? With what? I seem to remember Foreman talking about his water vaguely.
@@robcdoran4438 It seems like every episode of this show had great 😂 experts.
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They forgot to mention that he was the first Heavyweight Champion to visit Africa 10 years earlier and was welcomed with open arms. The Africans never forgot that!
Body, mind, and spirit.
Ali was the greatest.
George acknowledges Ali was as cunning as a fox and it would take more than boxing to describe these two great men .
Excuses Excuses Excuses...say what ever...But that night, Forman had to Lose, He was fighting Mohammad ALI ...#Greatest forever n ever
Ali did not have the power that was possessed by foreman but still took a lot of punches. And knock him out. Only Ali can do unbelievable things. That is called greatness. When no one believes you. You came up like a man
DAMN STRAIGHT!!!
I've never been a fan of Muhammad Ali except after he retired and have to admit this one of the greatest boxing performances ever. I put it in the top ten. Muhammad Ali was absolutely brilliant in this fight.
Foreman might be the most underrated fighter of all time.
Foreman is the bigger legend than Paul Bunyan, Big foot, Ali, the Loch ness Monster, UFOs, etc!
He ain't underrated everybody sees him as a alle time greatest
@Hardy Kong I just mean that people see him as a big, strong, tough guy but don't appreciate his technique and skill level.
Great video
Ali won cause he could take George's punches, and then deliver some. The classic you didn't get me, then i will.
There is only one reason Foreman lost....Muhammad Ali
Ive looked forward to this all day at work......now I can watch rest of it.
Ali cuum by ay
Al cuum by ay
Best fight of all time,both George and Ali are a boxing legend! Love both of them !
I'm so glad i've found this. These are forgetten small details in history.
Foremans loss to Ali is a lost victory...he was young and his personality too inmature...after flattening literally everybody before this fight and just coming from destroying 2 of the hardest nuts in the heavyweight division who both beat Ali (Frazier & Norton) he clearly suffered from hubris...he committed the capital error of underestimatng Ali and overestimating himself at the same time. Ali knew after 2 rounds he couldnt defeat the physically vastly superior Foreman so he adapted his style...started the rope-a dope to maintain his head out of Foremans reach and constantly provoked Foreman verbally...so while Foreman got angrier he threw more uncoordinated punches who exhausted him over time without seriously hurting Ali...we all know how that ended.
So Alis achivement here is not that he was the better boxer (he was not - not at that time anymore) but the smarter, more cool headed warrior who used the younger guys hubris against him. Foreman has beaten himelf in Africa...
No doubt , George Foreman was one of the best heavyweights to ever live , but why people then say Ali was the greatest ? thats because he was more than a boxer, he was one of the greatest humanitarian. He was a great boxer but even greater outside the ring. He loved people genuinely, meeting them, talking to the. Stood for blacks against Vietnam War when no one else did. And for that he got striped of his title when he was at his most prime years. the fact that even his fiercest opponents love him and say good things about him tells the kind of man he was. Just see any video of joe frazier, mike tyson or even George Foreman talking about Ali and you ll know .... and also you will find many videos of people on UA-cam remembering Ali and crying for him, discussing their tiny life events with Ali that had a life changing impact on them. He was not a boxer, He was an Idea , a concept , A Symbol, An Icon ........ for the people and the world......
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this fight also scheduled for 4 a.m. Kinshasa time because the American TV stations wanted to air it in prime time?
Only one reason. Ali was the greatest.
Should be titled,5 exuses for George foremans loss
Poor Angelo always getting accused for loosing the ropes in the rumble of the jungle
But if any of these idiots watched the fight they can hear him yelling “get out of these ropes Ali “
Lmao you fall for anything don’t you
Go and watch the full game you will hear clearly saying that ....
Norton and Frazier both destroyed Ali when he was on the rope Angelo didn’t want that to happen again
@@badsolja1 it’s not a game it’s a boxing match. Boxing isn’t a game. You don’t play boxing
Bro you aren’t making any sense
You obviously clueless
Whats your point here ?
Angelo made the rope loose so Ali can get away with the rope a dope strategy ??
And no dumbass I boxed
I know how boxing work
I have watched all of Ali’s game fully in one point of my life
@@badsolja1 Neither Norton nor definitely not Frazier destroyed Muhammad when he was on the ropes. Muhammad won against Frazier in all three of their matches and Muhammad won against Norton in their second match (but i will say he lose the first match & third match).
Ali's fast hand speed, fast foot speed, dancing, bouncing in the ring, bob & weaving his head, able to take hard punches, constantly throwing punches and constantly throwing combination punches. is which cause him to beat big George.
Even using the rope defense.ALI still took some hard punches 🥊 to the body and even to his face. So this wasn’t easy but his boxing IQ is what gave him a advantage over Foreman. Float like a butterfly 🦋 sting like a bee 🐝. He really was the greatest R.I.P champ
What could Foreman do? He couldn't outbox Ali or knock him out.He could have fought him five times and lost all of them.
Leigh Downer well Ali ditched Foreman for a second match because Ali knew Foreman wouldn’t fall for those antics for a second time
Foreman lost on points to Jimmy Young,who has a very similar style to Ali but is a bit smaller.You should watch this fight and then tell me the chances of Ali beating Foreman again.
Leigh Downer Well if you try to compare other fighters let’s talk about Forman and Frazier He decimated Frazier quickly 2 out of 2 Frazier knocked Ali out and almost if not beat Ali 2 other times. Foreman was on his way down in his first career when he fought Jimmy Young. Foreman significantly changed his style to be coy and wait conserving his energy to throw a knockout blow. I believe he would have fought Ali differently the second time I also believe Foreman would have knocked him out
Leigh Downer jimmy Young battered Ali when they fought. The judges favored Ali because he was a bigger payday than Jimmy young
Ali trained lightly and was well past his best,but still did better than Foreman.
Foreman once fought 5 in men a row lol, but it didn't go to plan.
With Ali taunting him from the sidelines. Very bizarre night.
@@ShawnKavanagh Yeah, lol.
The ONLY reason is that Ali was a better boxer. Period.
First and for most is these two men was two greatest of all of them..Big George clean out the heavyweight. division never before have we seen a man just knockout all top fighter of his time he knockout out Frazier and Norton two of the best of his day...Now styles make fights Ali got in to Foreman head number one from the beginning..Had a country behind him....Now people say rope a dope but they don't look at the fact Ali stood up to him Foreman wasn't use to that....Ali was the best at mind games if you can get in a man mind..And even. in the fight talking trash all night long all of this and Ali could take a punch....Foreman didn't stand a chance....He was trying so hard to knock Ali until ,I believe he beat him self...This was boxing at its best when fighter fought the best..
5:14 They're the same size basically lol
Ali was 6'3 1/2 with a 78" reach. Foreman is 6'4" with an 82" reach. Heavier bone and muscle density built body as well.
Rodney Washington Ali was closer to 6’2.5, they use to exaggerate his height. Foreman was a legit 6’4 though.
@@therealc.t.7085 Ali was 6.3
Ezi rulez 4 eva nope
Ali was 6-3 80 in reach Foreman just under 6-4 78-1/2 in. George was listed at 6-3 in the 70-s alot .Ali and Larry Holmes are the exact same height
11:37 “as Mandela once told me” I mean Larry… did that add to the validity?
Blame who ? Congratulate the Greatest of all Times !
Joe Frazier went, "Wow, Muhammed Ali knocked out the man who knocked me out."
At that point, Frazier was humbled and knew that Ali was a greater fighter than himself.
I disagree
even if they knew the ropes was a lil lose they couldnt have known what ALI would have done
rip ali and frazier
Ali wanted to win the title, but George just wanted to go home.
comfibold You've never been tired.
No George wanted to kill Ali at that time.
Both great fighters
hey is arthur THE ref for Frazier is he still alive
Listen Foreman could have won, Ali rightly did though, Foreman just needed the Method and Technique, yes really, a Legend
We saw a similar fate befall George Foreman when he fought Jimmy Young. Big George just couldn't cope with a clever boxer at that time in his career. Ali beat Foreman fair and square.
Ali vs Liston II was delayed 6 months? i didn't know that...
Sonny Liston was in the best shape ever for the Ali rematch. Then Ali had a hernia and the fight was ppd 6 months. Liston said fuk it and took a dive
Why is Muhammed Ali the greatest of the greats ? Because he his !
Ali was smart, but he had the courage to take those formidable punches from George. Even Frazier was wanted Ali to win because he knew that he cannot take Foreman. Who is willing to take this kind of punch, and say "is that all you got sucker?". Remember Ali had his jaw broken by Norton for he was hit while he was talking. If I were Ali, I would never talk in a fight. But he were willing to play with him. . If the fight were get longer no doubt that Ali could have killed him. George was stumbling from the 4th round. Ali was smart enough to fight in that way, in that city, in that condition. He chose Zaire because he knew that in that city Foreman would be tired. He danced in the first round while in the second didn't cos he was trying to tire up George and and keep his own strength. He leaned on the ropes, and on George sometimes, not to lose his stamina. Yes, you could have said that George was the best puncher of the time. But Ali showed in order to be the best you should not be a hitting machine. you should be Courageous, patient, smart and motivated enough to get what you want. He made it. Nobody could.
miss Joe & Kenny
ALI ALI
Yeah the ropes were extremely loose
Too fast, too skilled, too tough, too smart....that's why he lost to the colossus that bestrides boxing now and for ever.
I can't help but feel bad for big George, he was at an unfair disadvantage, the people hated him for no reason really!!! With the crowd being so hostile that HAD TO BE a factor in his loss!!! Another thing, it is a known fact that Ali did dodge the rematch, and do you know why??? Because he knew Foreman wasn't going to fall for the same strategy that worked in the previous bout
Foreman lost his very next fight after ali that's the reason there wasn't a rematch
Tony Biggs no he did not
Foreman did not land the same punches he landed on Frazier and Norton. Outrageous comment. Frazier and Norton were hit flush on the jaw with consecutive haymaker bombs. Foremans only clean head shot was in round 3.
It's worth pointing out Ali never gave Foreman a rematch. I think deep down he realized he caught lightening in a bottle in Zaire and if they ever fought again Foreman would be properly prepared for the "rope a dope" strategy. Plus, a rematch would probably have been fought in the States--(like Madison Square Garden)--also a benefit to Foreman (who was NEVER comfortable in Africa--which in my mind was as much of a contributor to his loss in that fight as anything else.) Honestly, if they had a return bout I think Big George could've beaten Ali!
Ali just out smarted George,
Is it me or is Ken Norton dressed like Mario?
Ali refused a rematch says it all
Rocky fish hahahahaha you sound like a salty sore loser, Ali BUMAYE! ;)
Italy noy reaching Russia 2018 says it all
True.Ali would have lost to foreman the second time.Dont get me wrong Ali is one of the greatest but he just got plain lucky in the first fight because of the ropes and he knew that ,thats why he didnt fight foreman the second time.
George Foreman never offered a rematch, he even said "I never wanted a rematch because Ali would always find a way to beat me"
Forman was afraid of ali
But you shyed away from a big one and Foreman addressed it at long length after he worked over the 5 guys. He objected to the fact that a boxer should not be allowed to lay on the ropes alot of the fight and when ali first started doing it he was booed as unsportsman like. In the older fights a person was not even allowed to crouch over the ref would stand the person back up.
On Liston 2 after the knockdown he did get back up and the fight continued. Ali threw a few punches no contact AND THE FIGHT WAS STOPPED IN TWO SECONDS. "they said Ali was throwing unanswered punches" He would have lost anyway but what if Liston simply layed on the ropes for 2 or 3 minutes? they would have stopped the fight based on that alone. Yet within a few years it gradually became "genius strategy"
Laying on the ropes indefinitely should be scored accordingly or deductions or ref step in and say "get back into the ring"
5 reasons all comes down to ring smarts and there was no one better than Ali
And it was'nt such an upset in hindsight as Ali went on to out fox and beat ken norton and frazier twice after this fight.
That was the fastest 10 count ever. The fix was most definitely in.
Foreman got up at the count of 8. The referee stopped it anyway
That all you got George
Liston was almost 45 when Ali fought him so yes it was a fix some say he was 43 that is still to old against a sharp Ali
Rocky fish you're a proof that Italians have no place in the boxing ring anymore
Ничего Себя 😂 well we make great fighter's/boxer's so not going to happen
Ничего Себя yeah just like the 3 legitimate goals they had disallowed in the world cup in Asia, but this case is the manager fault, but we have won it plenty of times, I'm born in England my dad is Italian my mums side is Scottish and Irish, but I'm a boxing fan way more than a football fan
Ali will beat George every time .Ali said it was a easy fight for him .
why did he duck him and never fight him again then?? insane they only fought once
@@Boss3Nate there's a million article's on this subject.Foreman was off in 75 and was not seeking a rematch ,they where going to fight in 77 but Foreman lost to Young and retired.Ali fought all the time never ducked anybody.
@@evanbarr9270 yeah I've read the articles where a rematch seemed like a formality.. Foreman wanted it and the fans wanted it and Ali was known for giving them. I've always read Ali denied him the shot. Ali fought Wepner, Lyle and Bugner after Foreman... non deserving of it
@@Boss3Nate wepner ,lyle , Bugner where all warm up's for Frazier ,all in 75 while Foreman was still getting up .they did not start to negotiate until Foreman became the 1 contender late 76 ,If Ali could beat Norton in 76 ,and Shavers in 77 he might still be able to sneak a decision. But let's face it by then it was just a matter of time before it was over.The fight I really would love to see is Holmes and Foreman 77-78-79.
he had to defend against the 1 contender once a year .Frazier ,then Norton .when George was 1 again in 77 he lost to Young and retired .was not Ali#'s fault
Im going with number 1
I Will say this so this was Ali greatest achievement, anywhere else he'd of lost but in AFRICA, Ali no chance he went into like a spiritual realm, but forman in the USA would of smashed him
for me big george is the best fighter...the less he talks the more he punch..thats a strategy of a true boxer...
Big George just wasn't the brightest bulb around. Also too slow. Little defense too. Foreman looked drunk out there. LOL. Now Tyson had a lot more going for himself. Tyson was tops ….well for a couple years anyway. Down goes Frazier!!! LOL Poor Frazier.
Ali continued to lean on him waring him down. Sometimes it looked like a wrestling match instead of a boxing match. The referee didn’t do justice he should have broken Ali stopping him from his antics. The fact was Ali played it smart conserving his energy in the humidity and heat by letting Foreman chase after him Foreman throwing his best punches till he couldn’t throw anymore. I believe if Ali would have had a rematch with George he probably would have lost
Amidst all the chaos of a high energy title fight, Zack did a fine job
not sure if reasons or excuses
#RIPAli! #ThrillaInManilaForever!
To those who say foreman lost because he faced Ali. That is the lamest and weakest answer
Let's see it logically, Ali got knocked out by Frazier yet foreman destroyed Frazier. Ali got beating by Norton (put him to hospital, with a broken draw) yet foreman destroyed Norton.
Lol Ali wasn't knocked out by frazier... get your facts straight before you comment.
@@NoName-gv6nm Exactly. Knocked down isn't the same as being knocked out. Ali had 10K ring IQ.
I think the place of the 🥊 match was a good reason.
frazier was 6’0 and george was 6’4
True.Ali would have lost to foreman the second time.Dont get me wrong Ali is one of the greatest but he just got plain lucky in the first fight because of the ropes and he knew that ,thats why he didnt fight foreman the second time.
Yet Foreman himself said that Ali would have beaten him again in a rematch.
Two prominent combatants met for the right to be champion. One possessed a keen wit and rapier-like skill. The opponent wielded the power of a broadsword and moved with a single-mindedness of predator stalking prey. Any sports historian or boxing fan can easily identify which fighter fits their part of the analogy.
If this was in the USA foreman would of won he would of won a rematch too,
You can't say that. If Ali fought foreman in USA he would have used the same strategy. Remember foreman did not have the stamina to get along in 12 round with Ali, and he did not have alternative plan. Ali could have taken him in 10th round in USA. Ali could take every punch. If he fell down he would get up, like when he did it in Ali vs Frazier. Even in USA because of tempeture Ali could dance in more than one round, say 3 or 4 round and this would get tired the big Foreman. Ali went to the strategy and foreman went to the power.
Possibly we will never know. If before manila 1975 Ali I feel would still have had a good chance to win .
Foreman was finished after round 1.
This is a good video, but if your enjoyed this you gotta watch the documentary When we were Kings.
13:38 😒😂
"Black magic".. i am sold..really..lol
The Africans are brave in that matter. Yes
Lmao! I never heard Norton’s voice before
I am looking at the woman that Ali left the plane with ,question.is that his wife or his mistress from Zaire?i do know he was cheating on his wife while in Zaire,that was in the movie "when we were kings".
Nonsense....ali was a smart boxer, george foreman was out of gas,he used all his strenght so ali can knock him with all his sttrength..foreman was so confident that is why he lost
People giving very nonsense and stopid reason of losing of forman losing bullshit forman never be boxer like Ali claber forman was not good and skild boxer just dirty power to push opponit hold them hands and hit hard Ali was genious outstanding fighter I can't believe people telling magic assol even Ali not beat forman properly he tired forman
Some of the people in Zaire look like the wwf wrestler Kamala!
Jimmy ellis whòoped him. Styles make fights
HA?? :D Why on earth would ANYONE "blame" Gorge Foreman for ANYTHING?? XD :D You want to "blame" a Boxer like "Big George" for anything?? - get on the Ring and say it to his face! :D :D
George Foreman was to blame for his lost: He was not a boxer. He was a brawler. He thuggishly had worn himself out. There lies the blame on George Foreman.
Ali never beat George the score cards show the judge who had it on for George and the three who called the fight fairly . It was pretty close then three of changed after half the fight and kept coming up with George winning big time
Ali never knocked him out . Watch the unedited version since you obviously never seen the real fight
Foreman,Fazier and at least four or more other had better career than Ali . So him being the greatest boxer ever is a joke . Rocky Marciano was Undefeated That means he never lost once . Ali regained his title six times that means he was beat. So give credit where credit is do and quit giving it to a paper champion.
Your jealousy is shining thru when you don’t have the balls to admit Marciano was the only boxer to ever go undefeated. He never lost it and had to regain it because he was that good. Ali got Foreman in a headlock which is illegal in boxing he got rabbit punched which is also illegal and Kidney punched and hit below the belt all of these are illegal yet they let Ali get away with with it countless times . So yes Ali was a paper champion .
Just like Ali fought old guys . You put Ali on a pedestal he don’t belong on .
Tell you lies majik 0715 they seem to make you feel better . You live vicariously through what you think Ali did or I should say what you want Ali to be
Rope A Dope and the biggest was Foreman
just becuse of muhamad Ali was the gerats of all time
People so dumbed and jelius on Ali black magic and many stopid excuse sham on those people Ali was greatest world champ not ordnery boxer forman beat badly to Ali but only just take this powerful hit he took if was other boxer he will dead this very powerful woping
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a very powerful woping quite right