Mind set is one thing, but let's get to the bottom line: 1. What does the Balance Sheet look like ? 2. What's your net worth ? 3. How much Monthly Revenue is needed to sustain the relationship ? 4. There are only 24 hours in a day......how can you give QUALITY TIME to multiple "in laws' including their problems ? If you are not bringing in $15,000 - 20,000 per month......I can see a sustainable "relationship".
Honesty absolutely does not cultivate a sense of safety for women who have no desire to practice polygyny. It may give her the information she needs to decide to leave the relationship, or not enter into it in the first place, but for most women it is the dynamic of polygyny itself that makes her feel emotionally unsafe. If a man is honest about it only after they enter into a relationship, she has every logical reason to feel unstable and insecure. The reality is that most women who would willingly enter into a polygynous dynamic are accustomed to the practice from a cultural or religious background. Women may also be prone to sharing if they value finances or lifestyle over the man they are in a relationship with. It is completely unreasonable to expect a woman who is completely 100% devoted to her husband, who wants that devotion reciprocated, to be accepting of the practice. Ultimately, your wife must be on the same wavelength as you already. If she fundamentally perceives you having another relationship as being unfaithful, if she feels betrayed or heartbroken by that, then it is simply not going to work out. There is no way for a man to say there will be no loss to the initial partner if she values monogamy. If she values the exclusivity of the relationship, she loses that. If she values the time she spends with her husband/bf then she loses that, if she values sharing all of her nights with him and feeling safe and protected, she loses that. If she values financial security then by necessity she loses what she would have had in that respect too. Her children lose a portion of their inheritance if he has children with his other gf/wife...I mean, the list goes on and on. How on earth can it be argued that nothing is lost? The only perspective that is accurate would be that some women become accepting/comfortable with those losses. At the end of the day the only way polygyny will truly work is if the woman is open to it in the first place.
@@Karll541Hardly. Women with boundaries, those who expect the same level of commitment and devotion, hate polygyny. Conversely, it is the men who endeavour to convince their wives to suddenly accept polygyny who are the selfish ones.
A woman who is 100% devoted to her man should do her due diligence to make sure she chooses a 1 woman man. In reality, most men want more than 1 female.
@@2beornot2beholy I mean...obviously? Both parties have an obligation to ensure their values align and they are compatible. However, I would definitely go so far as to assert that if a man desires polygyny he has a greater obligation to be upfront because (at least in the West) such a dynamic is still definitely considered outside of the norm. Unfortunately, the reality is that a lot of men will not be upfront and wait until after falling in love or vows being exchanged to raise the topic. Now if you adhere to a particular faith or belong to a particular culture where this arrangement is more inherently accepted, that is a different story. But many women are completely blindsided. You cannot simply dismiss these women as being foolish because 'most men want more than 1 female' when the reality is that cheating is extremely common among men and women alike nowadays. Why? Because women crave intimacy, romance, thrill, attention etc. They want to feel desired. While men may cheat because they want variety, women will cheat when they feel unfulfilled. And when a man is devoting his attention elsewhere....those desires are likely to heighten. It is far more likely that a woman will feel unfulfilled if her spouse is abandoning her 50% of nights and even during the day to seek the company of another woman. When you are in a conventional relationship the understanding is that you believe it is worth forgoing your desire for variety in order to have exclusive access to this one particular person long term. If either the man or the woman deceive, they are to be condemned. Due diligence is all well and good, but the blame should always be lain at the feet of those who are dishonest.
@ there’s really nothing obvious about our relationships other that men lie to themselves and say they want 1 woman when 99% of us men know different. It’s only the condemnation of polygamy that religion has put on this country and many other countries that is obvious. It should be obvious though that men should not be chained down like neutered dogs. Because how are you a man if you can’t be fruitful and multiply at your will. It’s about not chaining a man down but letting the man be a man and build his family without overbearing one woman in any one duty and making sure children have a father. Women tired of doing everything because they should be sharing duties. I see it every day. Just look at any group of people anywhere. Women overwhelmed and men don’t feel loved. A few women deserve to be the only wife because they have the heart to give what’s necessary. So we all lying to each other except a few.
I been honest from the start. They say that's what they want pay lip service to it and even engage in the process in the beginning. Once they have the relationship and it is solid they shift and are now not wanting that life style. In all from my experience they all lie and only say what they need to in the moment to get what they want. Dame your wants and needs as a man. Good luck fellas.
true. ive been thinking that you might need to put her through some tests to avoid these issues. she needs to actually see it in her face so you know if she's truly down. another sister talked about this in her book on polygyny, can check the name if you want
@@TheGOLDENGODZILLA "Nation Building For Women: What You Need to Know Before Entering a Polygynous Marriage" by Shalom, Shanelle She also released "Nation Building For Women: Exposing the Destructive Nature of Monogamy" afterwards. I just bought her other book "Nation Building For Women: The Concubine Handbook"
@@ReemusB Thank you so much man. Highly appreciate it. As geopolitics and the world economy changes polygyny is going to start becoming the norm. Wanna prepare now.
Her name says, that she comes from a culture, which accepts polygamous marriages. She probably has family members, that live this way. So, his way was not far. She just had to fall back. Run girl!
What's reasoning to that? IMO, the don't need to be intimate with each other, but at least be perfectly fine being simultaneously intimate with their Husband.
@perieven6357 I'm not opposed to the wives being intimate with each other. Lesnianism is only sin if the women act it OUTSIDE a polygynous marriage. The marital bed is undefiled.
When people talking about polygamy, polyamory, ecc. interpret ‘convincing’ just with a bad connotation, which doesn’t have to be the only one. Sure there are people that try to force someone in stuff (as poly in this case), but can be just explaining, showing, expiring to her who is not against it but just have some doubts and fear. I agree with all the rest tho.
It’s about whose frame is stronger. If you truly are polygynous, is your commitment to polygyny stronger than her commitment to monogamy? If yes, you will settle. If no, you’ll be polygynous whether it’s with her or not. That said, I understand if there’s complicated ties
@@iloveyou281000 I hear you brother. I’d say just spend time learning about this stuff as much as you can and your passion will grow even more. Your knowledge of how it benefits her will also increase so it becomes easier to provide solutions to her issues. Over time, your stance begins to overpower hers/womens
If your woman wouldn't take real bullet for you or step in front of an intruder to give herself for you she isn't territorial. Women are not territorial over men in reality except they say they are - what they really saying the territorial about is a man's genitals. You sound weak to say that cos your woman won't entertain it you wouldn't pursue if that is what you really want to do. There's a difference between understanding and agreement and a man and woman doesn't always have to agree
I am an African, we have Polygamous Marriages throughout our Beautiful Continent. And most of the Wives and 1 Husband are really Happy, Alhamdu Lillah.
Search Labs | AI Overview Learn more According to the Oxford Learner's Dictionaries, polygamy is the practice of having more than one spouse at the same time, while polygyny is a specific type of polygamy where a man is married to multiple women: Polygamy: The practice of being married to more than one spouse at the same time. The word comes from the Late Greek polys gamos, which means "often married". Polygyny: A specific type of polygamy where a man is married to multiple women. So, there we have it, all you wonderful people around the world.
I am afraid you did not understand the Islamic Concept of Polygamy or Polygamy being a Divine permission (Not A Command) of being in a Polygamous Marriage, Martha.
@Seasideboy1 u r very manipulative, I mean INFORMATIVEm. Islam is hell for women... Thank God OUR LORD IS GOD ! SANTA MARIA MADRE DE DIOS! There is only one way to live through Love: JESÚS 🙏
If you can fully provide for 2 women and a bunch of children/ potential children and are okay with someone possibly bring a disease back after stepping out… go for it. Never convince she should be the one to mention it on her own from the start.
If both people are clean, where can the disease come from? Stepping “out” isn’t what a Polygnous man is doing, he’s stepping “into” another marriage. Each relationship is separate, and unrelated, so it doesn’t touch what he already has.
This causes more problems than it solves. Why? What if it was the other way around? No way in Hell would he accept this. Too many "entanglements" would occur. Too many "Will Smith" moments would occur (no offense). There was a show many years ago called "Big Love" where the husband was on some "plural marriage" principle. In the end, he was killed by his friend and business who thought he was after his wife. Granted, it was just a show, but there are serious consequences for those who want an "open relationship", married or not.
@@Polygyny name 1 polygamous union that's still intact without any type of fallout. I'll wait. Human beings have a great capacity to love. Problem is some folks believe that its a license to f@#$ around. Many others before you tried this and failed miserably. This is a fact. Think about it. And now the fact that you attacked me by called me paranoid begs the question, are you sure I'm the one that's paranoid?
@@christophermoody1448 divorce rate in MONOGAMY is 50-70% with most of them initiated by women - there is nothing special about monogamy when it comes to fall outs. Are you sure you're on planet earth? Seriously though, just be a bit objective because I can't take you seriously in this discourse - you come across as being too much in your feelings when it comes to polygamy and clearly aren't well-studied on the subject to be having opinions about it
@@Polygyny For the mere fact that you mentioned this, you've only proved my point. When I was talking about human beings capacity to love, but some use it as a license to mess around , which is a contributing factor to the divorce rates that you speak about. I asked you to show an example of a polygamous relationship that survives without fallout and you have yet to make the case. The more you attack me, the more you prove my point. I offer an opinion that challenges yours and you call me paranoid, emotional and uninformed. If you begin any discourse with insults, you've already lost the argument.
Polygamy - umbrella term covering multiple SPOUSES Polygyny - a form of polygamy describing a man having multiple wives Polyandry - a form of polygamy describing a woman having multiple husbands Polyamory - a form of polygamy describing a varied combination of multiple husbands and wives not covered under polyandry or polygyny.
Absolutely! That is precisely what has me really wondering about Polygamy as opposed to Polygyny, these people MUST get their terminology in order, seriously.
its not for everyone though. its for a minority of individuals who are mature, capable and wise enough to do it. If everyone did it, they'd do it terribly and give it a bad reputation
She is so... Holding her tongue this is so pathetic .... U always looking at yourself in the cam and she just agreeing 😂😂😂 Narciso and Maria no love for herself in this vifeo both🎉. Anyway, its been long since this is prqctice 😅😅 secretly 😅😅😅 NO BS
💯 I agree on not convincing,rather look for someone who is open to it
Amen!!!
Convincing impossible unless your rich
Mind set is one thing, but let's get to the bottom line:
1. What does the Balance Sheet look like ?
2. What's your net worth ?
3. How much Monthly Revenue is needed to sustain the relationship ?
4. There are only 24 hours in a day......how can you give QUALITY TIME to multiple "in laws' including their problems ?
If you are not bringing in $15,000 - 20,000 per month......I can see a sustainable "relationship".
u gonna have only one woman
@@Negus93 facts
You’ve nailed it again!!!
Very well said!!
Honesty absolutely does not cultivate a sense of safety for women who have no desire to practice polygyny. It may give her the information she needs to decide to leave the relationship, or not enter into it in the first place, but for most women it is the dynamic of polygyny itself that makes her feel emotionally unsafe. If a man is honest about it only after they enter into a relationship, she has every logical reason to feel unstable and insecure.
The reality is that most women who would willingly enter into a polygynous dynamic are accustomed to the practice from a cultural or religious background. Women may also be prone to sharing if they value finances or lifestyle over the man they are in a relationship with.
It is completely unreasonable to expect a woman who is completely 100% devoted to her husband, who wants that devotion reciprocated, to be accepting of the practice. Ultimately, your wife must be on the same wavelength as you already. If she fundamentally perceives you having another relationship as being unfaithful, if she feels betrayed or heartbroken by that, then it is simply not going to work out.
There is no way for a man to say there will be no loss to the initial partner if she values monogamy. If she values the exclusivity of the relationship, she loses that. If she values the time she spends with her husband/bf then she loses that, if she values sharing all of her nights with him and feeling safe and protected, she loses that. If she values financial security then by necessity she loses what she would have had in that respect too. Her children lose a portion of their inheritance if he has children with his other gf/wife...I mean, the list goes on and on. How on earth can it be argued that nothing is lost? The only perspective that is accurate would be that some women become accepting/comfortable with those losses.
At the end of the day the only way polygyny will truly work is if the woman is open to it in the first place.
Selfish woman hate polygyny
@@Karll541Hardly.
Women with boundaries, those who expect the same level of commitment and devotion, hate polygyny.
Conversely, it is the men who endeavour to convince their wives to suddenly accept polygyny who are the selfish ones.
A woman who is 100% devoted to her man should do her due diligence to make sure she chooses a 1 woman man.
In reality, most men want more than 1 female.
@@2beornot2beholy
I mean...obviously? Both parties have an obligation to ensure their values align and they are compatible. However, I would definitely go so far as to assert that if a man desires polygyny he has a greater obligation to be upfront because (at least in the West) such a dynamic is still definitely considered outside of the norm.
Unfortunately, the reality is that a lot of men will not be upfront and wait until after falling in love or vows being exchanged to raise the topic. Now if you adhere to a particular faith or belong to a particular culture where this arrangement is more inherently accepted, that is a different story. But many women are completely blindsided.
You cannot simply dismiss these women as being foolish because 'most men want more than 1 female' when the reality is that cheating is extremely common among men and women alike nowadays. Why? Because women crave intimacy, romance, thrill, attention etc. They want to feel desired. While men may cheat because they want variety, women will cheat when they feel unfulfilled. And when a man is devoting his attention elsewhere....those desires are likely to heighten. It is far more likely that a woman will feel unfulfilled if her spouse is abandoning her 50% of nights and even during the day to seek the company of another woman.
When you are in a conventional relationship the understanding is that you believe it is worth forgoing your desire for variety in order to have exclusive access to this one particular person long term. If either the man or the woman deceive, they are to be condemned. Due diligence is all well and good, but the blame should always be lain at the feet of those who are dishonest.
@ there’s really nothing obvious about our relationships other that men lie to themselves and say they want 1 woman when 99% of us men know different.
It’s only the condemnation of polygamy that religion has put on this country and many other countries that is obvious.
It should be obvious though that men should not be chained down like neutered dogs. Because how are you a man if you can’t be fruitful and multiply at your will.
It’s about not chaining a man down but letting the man be a man and build his family without overbearing one woman in any one duty and making sure children have a father.
Women tired of doing everything because they should be sharing duties.
I see it every day. Just look at any group of people anywhere.
Women overwhelmed and men don’t feel loved.
A few women deserve to be the only wife because they have the heart to give what’s necessary.
So we all lying to each other except a few.
Great topic. Keep up the good work
THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL VIDEO 🐐🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I found this to be very informative and very eye opening for myself.
Be a man, do what you want. Treat her well in the process and let the chips fall where they will.
This reminds me a lot of Todd Valentine's Relationship Manifesto.
Great minds think alike!
I been honest from the start. They say that's what they want pay lip service to it and even engage in the process in the beginning. Once they have the relationship and it is solid they shift and are now not wanting that life style. In all from my experience they all lie and only say what they need to in the moment to get what they want. Dame your wants and needs as a man. Good luck fellas.
true. ive been thinking that you might need to put her through some tests to avoid these issues. she needs to actually see it in her face so you know if she's truly down. another sister talked about this in her book on polygyny, can check the name if you want
Yo man what’s the name of that book?
@@TheGOLDENGODZILLA "Nation Building For Women: What You Need to Know Before Entering a Polygynous Marriage" by Shalom, Shanelle
She also released "Nation Building For Women: Exposing the Destructive Nature of Monogamy" afterwards.
I just bought her other book "Nation Building For Women: The Concubine Handbook"
@@ReemusB Thank you so much man. Highly appreciate it. As geopolitics and the world economy changes polygyny is going to start becoming the norm. Wanna prepare now.
Best place is East Africa right now. Generational traditions already socialized into the women's psyche.
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Her name says, that she comes from a culture, which accepts polygamous marriages. She probably has family members, that live this way. So, his way was not far. She just had to fall back. Run girl!
Practice poly gamy with people who want it
Poly relationships only work when the wives are not intimate with each other.
What's reasoning to that? IMO, the don't need to be intimate with each other, but at least be perfectly fine being simultaneously intimate with their Husband.
🎉3@@EriPages
That's how it is done in islam.
@@EriPages You seem to not know, that lesbianism is a huge thing in harems.
@perieven6357 I'm not opposed to the wives being intimate with each other.
Lesnianism is only sin if the women act it OUTSIDE a polygynous marriage.
The marital bed is undefiled.
Glad i found this chanel
so do you get one main woman first and then bring in one more at a time? or just get a few to come in all at the same time?
She does not want to share him, she just madly in love with him.
@@tf4677 Exactly. Women innately don’t want to share their man
@@iloveyou281000Share their man or share their "resources".
... And he is taking advantage of that.
Are you a male or female just curious
@@iloveyou281000 well unless the wives are also lesbian
When people talking about polygamy, polyamory, ecc. interpret ‘convincing’ just with a bad connotation, which doesn’t have to be the only one. Sure there are people that try to force someone in stuff (as poly in this case), but can be just explaining, showing, expiring to her who is not against it but just have some doubts and fear. I agree with all the rest tho.
Most women will not be open to it. Ain’t no convincing, ain’t no inspiring either. They won’t go for it, especially my woman, she’s way to territorial
It’s about whose frame is stronger. If you truly are polygynous, is your commitment to polygyny stronger than her commitment to monogamy? If yes, you will settle. If no, you’ll be polygynous whether it’s with her or not. That said, I understand if there’s complicated ties
@@YTBLOCKZ I’m just learning about Polygyny and Polygamy. I hear what you’re saying, but both parties have to come to an understanding about it
@@iloveyou281000 I hear you brother. I’d say just spend time learning about this stuff as much as you can and your passion will grow even more. Your knowledge of how it benefits her will also increase so it becomes easier to provide solutions to her issues. Over time, your stance begins to overpower hers/womens
If your woman wouldn't take real bullet for you or step in front of an intruder to give herself for you she isn't territorial. Women are not territorial over men in reality except they say they are - what they really saying the territorial about is a man's genitals.
You sound weak to say that cos your woman won't entertain it you wouldn't pursue if that is what you really want to do.
There's a difference between understanding and agreement and a man and woman doesn't always have to agree
@@YTBLOCKZ ... and then she goes.
Good luck in all your endeavours.
Don't forget to put them all in your will 😭
In africa, where polygyny is still practiced?
I am an African, we have Polygamous Marriages throughout our Beautiful Continent. And most of the Wives and 1 Husband are really Happy, Alhamdu Lillah.
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According to the Oxford Learner's Dictionaries, polygamy is the practice of having more than one spouse at the same time, while polygyny is a specific type of polygamy where a man is married to multiple women:
Polygamy: The practice of being married to more than one spouse at the same time. The word comes from the Late Greek polys gamos, which means "often married".
Polygyny: A specific type of polygamy where a man is married to multiple women. So, there we have it, all you wonderful people around the world.
How to get men to accept death
Men are quite willing to accept death. Religion is filled with Martyrs and wars filled with men willing to accept death for their brothers.
You cannot do this with a baddie. Skip this and just play the game until they find out. then NEXT
Are they married?
Is she palestinian? I've always had a thing for Arab girls.
Monetary and class. Yall talk too much lol
She is so... Holding her tongue
I am afraid you did not understand the Islamic Concept of Polygamy or Polygamy being a Divine permission (Not A Command) of being in a Polygamous Marriage, Martha.
@Seasideboy1 u r very manipulative, I mean INFORMATIVEm. Islam is hell for women... Thank God OUR LORD IS GOD ! SANTA MARIA MADRE DE DIOS! There is only one way to live through Love: JESÚS 🙏
lol
If you can fully provide for 2 women and a bunch of children/ potential children and are okay with someone possibly bring a disease back after stepping out… go for it.
Never convince she should be the one to mention it on her own from the start.
If the women dont sleep around with other men and he doesnt sleep with anyone else then there will not be any disease.
Respectfully, polygyny is a man's choice not a woman's
If both people are clean, where can the disease come from?
Stepping “out” isn’t what a Polygnous man is doing, he’s stepping “into” another marriage.
Each relationship is separate, and unrelated, so it doesn’t touch what he already has.
You are thinking of polygAMY
Just give her an ultimatum or show her the door. Problem solved!
This causes more problems than it solves. Why? What if it was the other way around? No way in Hell would he accept this. Too many "entanglements" would occur. Too many "Will Smith" moments would occur (no offense). There was a show many years ago called "Big Love" where the husband was on some "plural marriage" principle. In the end, he was killed by his friend and business who thought he was after his wife. Granted, it was just a show, but there are serious consequences for those who want an "open relationship", married or not.
polygyny is not an open relationship. feel free to check out some of the latest videos if you want to learn about what they are talking about
You sound paranoid, seriously. Using a show to make a judgment and serious real life stuff is wild
@@Polygyny name 1 polygamous union that's still intact without any type of fallout. I'll wait. Human beings have a great capacity to love. Problem is some folks believe that its a license to f@#$ around. Many others before you tried this and failed miserably. This is a fact. Think about it. And now the fact that you attacked me by called me paranoid begs the question, are you sure I'm the one that's paranoid?
@@christophermoody1448 divorce rate in MONOGAMY is 50-70% with most of them initiated by women - there is nothing special about monogamy when it comes to fall outs.
Are you sure you're on planet earth?
Seriously though, just be a bit objective because I can't take you seriously in this discourse - you come across as being too much in your feelings when it comes to polygamy and clearly aren't well-studied on the subject to be having opinions about it
@@Polygyny For the mere fact that you mentioned this, you've only proved my point. When I was talking about human beings capacity to love, but some use it as a license to mess around , which is a contributing factor to the divorce rates that you speak about. I asked you to show an example of a polygamous relationship that survives without fallout and you have yet to make the case. The more you attack me, the more you prove my point. I offer an opinion that challenges yours and you call me paranoid, emotional and uninformed. If you begin any discourse with insults, you've already lost the argument.
Polygamy is multi women. Polygyny is multi men. Idk bout this one.
polygamy opens to anyone, polygyny (like misogyny) opens to women, polyandry (like misandry) opens to men
Polygamy - umbrella term covering multiple SPOUSES
Polygyny - a form of polygamy describing a man having multiple wives
Polyandry - a form of polygamy describing a woman having multiple husbands
Polyamory - a form of polygamy describing a varied combination of multiple husbands and wives not covered under polyandry or polygyny.
No you’re wrong. Polygamy it self means multiple spouses or partners. Polygyny is when it’s 1 man and multiple women
Polygyny is one man, multiple wives.
Absolutely! That is precisely what has me really wondering about Polygamy as opposed to Polygyny, these people MUST get their terminology in order, seriously.
But everyone will not go for this polygamy, you talking about a Nuclear Holocaust
its not for everyone though. its for a minority of individuals who are mature, capable and wise enough to do it. If everyone did it, they'd do it terribly and give it a bad reputation
@@ReemusB Like you said , a very small minority of people, specifically the rich 🤑
She is so... Holding her tongue this is so pathetic .... U always looking at yourself in the cam and she just agreeing 😂😂😂 Narciso and Maria no love for herself in this vifeo both🎉. Anyway, its been long since this is prqctice 😅😅 secretly 😅😅😅 NO BS
If it's not for you, then say it's not for you.
@@Waset9 don't tell me how to express myself...
@marthablissgroup5863 you're critiquing how these people are expressing themselves, so stop being hypocritical.
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