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- Опубліковано 23 гру 2016
- Crosscut sled | 5 cut | How to | Dave Stanton . I show you how to set up a safe table saw sled that will give you repeatable accurate cuts every time. Do you want to set up your sled so that it is delivering dead square cuts? I show you the 5 cut system which takes a couple of minutes!
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I'm relatively new to woodworking and don't yet have a crosscut sled but have recently realized that a good sled would improve my accuracy, repeatability, cut quality, and safety at the table saw. I've been considering building one (Tamar's design with the Katz-Moses stop block) but at the end of the day I'm not certain that I could do any better than the Rockler and am thinking about buying one while it's on sale. After watching your video, I'm pretty convinced that the Rockler sled is the way to go. Thanks!
Years later....still the best review out there! I think Rockler lengthened the springs as I was able to adjust mine easily. But that was an extraordinary good tip.
Thanks for sharing!
Another great video Dave. After having problems with keeping my home made sled true due to changes in weather etc., I had to get myself one. Following your setup tips in this video has me now making repeatable quality cuts with the bonus of cutting tight mitres too (and yes, the big numbers / increment markings make a big difference too). Thank you.
Glad you are enjoying it. I love my sled, easy to use.
Perfect. Good tips on your video
Thanks
Dave thank you for showing the set up and the 5 cut to get it spot on . Following your advice I just dialed mine in .03 hundreds of a inch out with 23.1/8 cutting . Works fantastic.
Thanks for the compliment TPB Buzzelli
Awesome video, David. Just ordered mine. I can't wait to get it.
Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks David for your reply. Never travelled down MYUS before but worth a try. Pity Carbatec still don't carry them. Since I viewed this I have seen an almost identical on made by Powertec but they also not available in Australia.
Thanks for saving David. I'm on with this project at the moment to help with my segmented rings jig for woodturning. It's helped a lot. Regards and best wishes to you, thanks again. T.
My pleasure Tony !
I was all set to make a sled like this one for myself but I just ran out of time and this one had everything I needed. There are probably other similar sleds available out there, purchase or make the one that is right for you but use the 5 cut system to get it spot on.
Nice video sir and no offence but your shop it's so clean and looks like a kitchen.
Can you or have you added a tape measure to the top of the fence to make it easier to set the stop?
Nice how to. The best wishes, merry Christmas and nice new year!
Thanks Daniel. Merry Christmas!
Totally cool.
Nice job love the way it looks. 16.5 meters 1 mm. Awesome
Thanks David, it can be very accurate with a few tweaks.
David, first rate review .. many thx for pointing out the issue and having a fix. I find ROCKLER brand jigs/fixture are for the most part "good" with some quirk that needs addressing, I had to tweak the Tapering Jig for setting Zero clearance ... best regards and good holidays .. john
Thanks for watching John and have a great festive season!
Hi Dave merry Christmas to you.
Brilliant video very well explain and easy to understand. I can now get my timber cuts a lot more accurate,thanks for the info.
Regards Edd.
Thanks Edward. I hope it makes life easier for you! Merry Christmas.
Another great video. Merry Christmas and I hope you have an excellent New Year
Thank you John. All the best to you as well!
That looks like a great idea that can be done easily. I like the adjustment screw for the 90 degree angle. May try and make my own version. P.S. the anti drop bar is a great idea. Thanks Mate and have a Merry Christmas.
Handy item for the shop Frank. Merry Christmas!
Hi David, finding hard to find anybody that actually supplies this, Rockler and Amazon out of the US is unavailable and nobody is Aus has them. Thanks Mark, great video BTW👍👍
I just subscribed to your videos, thanks for the tutorials. One note 1650 mm = 1.65 m.
Best I will keep watching.
David Friedman, correct.
Great job David. I actually got spring replacements for all six ball bearing's in the miter bar. Century spring corp 5/32 x 1 x .016. Any really good hardware should have
Haha, it sounds like you've become a pro at replacing springs! Maybe I should hire you as my assistant. Keep up the great work!
Great video. You have a new sub.
Welcome!
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
I have watched quite a few videos showing how to adjust your fence 90° to the blade. Why not make the fence 90° to the cut you just made when you cut the sled to mate it to your saw and use the Pythagorean theorem to dial in the fence. You do that one time and you are perfect.
If you are going to square off your blade then you better make sure your blade is dead nuts parallel with the table slots which is not alway the case. That is why I square off from the trimming cut.
Hi Kris!
The reason is there is the risk of jambing the workpiece as it is being cut as the governing factor is the mitre slot.
@@DavidStanton any cut you make is going to follow the cut on the sled, right? Some people have no idea how to align the blade to make it perfectly parallel to the miter slots.
I removed slot bar from sled,this allowed me to adjust one ball at a time,put in table slot,adjust each one,a lot easier than when attached to sled
How did it end up for you Neil?
David. I'm a new subscriber. Just getting into wood working. I really like your channel. You seem down to earth and quite knowledgable. My only issue I have with your channel is the metric system LOL. I live in Canada, and we use the metric system here. However, as a welder, I use imperial for everything. My kids make fun of me when I can't visualize metric measurements LOL. Having said that, I thoroughly enjoy your channel. Thanks!
I speak imperial and metric and usually do so in most of my videos. Will try to focus more on imperial for you.
Hey David, after "complaining" to you that I prefer imperial measurements, I watched your video on making a stool. Guess what? I will use metric mm measurements to make it LOL. WHY? Cause it is more accurate! That does not mean I like metric lol
I like the idea of a crosscut sled, but don't see how you would use it for cuts higher than 45 degrees? Also, how do you handle really long pieces with this? THanks for the video.
Dave. You could always drill one hole in the aluminum for a pin. Then use that hole to set station points for common angle sets.
That is a good idea Jason!
Quite impressive, Dave.
Thank you Tumblewoodworks.
Sorry, Dave. It's me, Vic Hubbard. I forget I haven't been that active under my shop name.
Hi Vic! Are you snowed in at all? It is going to be a hot week here in Australia. Not looking forward to it. Thank heavens I installed that mini split system in the wood shop.
New sub here. Great channel and cool dog!
Quick bio:
Im relatively new to woodworking and my focus is on home repairs, trim carpentry and mostly fixing the mistakes of others. I am a painter of 36 years but, just got sick of waitng for "carpenters" to do their job and then do it poorly. I know how things should look so i dove in and discovered festool simultaneously. My tool selections are all based on portability and i do not have a fixed shop. The paulk total station is my work area.
I have found (for me) that trying to make these sleds is far more dangerous than trying to make the small cuts another way and i can NEVER get them to not be sloppy in the slots or get them square.
So I have given up on wasting wood trying to make them.
The End
Hi Dave, I just unboxed my Rockler sled, and am wondering if you recommend any type of sealer for the outside perimeter of the melamine covered mdf. To me it seems thin and I'm concerned about smashing a corner off. Also, it's soooo humid in Florida, I fear the unfinished sides of the mdf will absorb moisture. Thanks for performing the 5 cut method, and showing us how easy it is to adjust to near perfect 90 degrees. Fantastic tip about the spring altering to eliminate slop, too. I have a small portable jobsite saw and just hope there is enough infeed space to be able to utilize the sled. Your video is BY FAR the more useful and informative. Thanks a millon ...
Hi Sue B! Any clear poly product should do it. 2 coats with a light sanding between.
Dave, good day! Have or did you look into an Incra 5000? I'm not sure of the price difference but it's tough to beat Incra for accuracy. Enjoyed your video as always.
I am sure it would be more expensive but that is ok. As long as it gets the job done!
Perfsct
Thanks Dapur DIY!
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Hi David! Thank you for your very informative review! My question is, will this Crosscut sled work on a Dewalt 7480 which has a 22" x 22" table space? Thank you!
Interesting point Ryan Reeves. Just as long as the saw has a 3/4" mitre slot it should be ok.
@@DavidStanton Thank you!
If you reside in Australia we you and family stay safe.
Thank you David Friedman!
I just received a 10% off coupon from Rockler the other day. Now I know what I'm buying.
Good on you Denny. See if you can get the discount going through my amazon link in the description box below. It all helps keep the channel active. If not, that is fine. Merry Christmas!
Dave thanks for letting me know, I will be more than happy to throw my Amazon purchases through your Amazon link. The card I got in the mail from Rockler came from a specific store in Cincinnati, Ohio. It has to be used in the store, they sent it to me because my birthday is in December.
Happy birthday! It is a little known thing that if you enter Amazon via any of my affiliate links and start searching in Amazon and purchase something in that visit, my channel will benefit in a small way. Thanks for thinking about me!
well done thank you ehhh
Are you a tool salesman or a woodworker. I'd sure like to see of video of you make some cabinets or furniture.
One of the problems with having a popular youtube channel is that manufacturers approach me all the time. I sort through a lot of offers and only show items that I would have purchased anyway. My history is house construction, built hands on. You will see there are plenty of build vids in my collection. I may do another one soon.
Merry Christmas, David. Really like your videos.
I do hate to correct you but one thing about your calculations on the five-cut method that could be more accurate is to use the sum of the length of the four sides and divide by four instead of five and five as you have done. This is only a slight issue, and only when the length and width dimensions of the test piece vary a good amount (when it is rectangular, but not even close to being square.) Wouldn't even mention it, but this is one situation where we're talking in thousandths of an inch and we want to dial it in as close to perfect as possible.
None the less, love your work. And give Barry a pat for me! :)
Merry Christmas Corwin. I have a question for you re the 5 cut. Not sure if a square or rectangle makes too much if any difference but the question is the difference on the final, 5th cut from front to back of the offcut, are you saying that is incorrect?
Square or rectangle doesn't make a difference, but use the longer side for the first and last and any error will stand out more. And nothing wrong with the 5th cut, but rather consider only the last four cuts (and their lengths) in your calculation. We're talking about a four-sided piece, with four corners that we would like to be as close to perfect to 90s as possible. Even if we made six or seven cuts on the test piece, only the last four would be meaningful in our calculations.
Again, sorry to nit-pick. But, here we're trying to get as close to perfect as possible. And, some think they need to be closer to perfect than others. ;)
OK, I think we are on the same page. The difference front to back on that last (5th) cut is the combination of the error in the 4 previous cuts. This is why I cut a section off rather than trim the edge. Not nit picking at all. I am all for getting it right even if I am wrong....did I just say that ? LOL. Merry Christmas.
Oops, I am mistaken here. Watching again, I see that you were calculating the error over the total distance cut, which is fine as you have demonstrated. I shouldn't post late on Christmas eve. Ha, ha.
I was sure we would agree. I must be more specific in my videos so there is less room for misunderstanding.
For those interested in the degree of accuracy my sled has in imperial measurement it is 3.93701 thou over 65 inches (5.4 feet)
David, sorry to be a pain in the bum but it wasn't 16.5 meters but 1.65 meters as there are 1000mm in a meter, so 1650mm would be 1.650m. which would be 65 inches as you said, 16.5 meters would be something like 60 foot
oh, my bad, you said 1mm not 0.1mm over 16.5m
Eric D. I see your next post Eric, all good.
I cannot find anywhere to buy in Australia and Rockler won't ship to Australia. Any suggestions on buying one of these sleds.
Go through this site. www.myus.com/
thanks, Dave. Very useful demo. One small point - 1650 mm = 1.65 m, not 16.5 m
Thanks for watching. Not sure if you are familiar with the metric system or not totally understanding what I did? I was out 0.1mm over 1.65 metres. I then said, I was out by 1.0 mm over 16.5 metres. I multiplied 0.1 x 10 so I had to multiply 1.65 x 10 as well. Hence 1.0 mm out over 16.5 metres.
David Stanton hi, Dave. At 8:19, you measured 1mm off in 1.65m to correct. That was my comment. Hey, I was president of my high school's slide rule club.
If you watch through to 11.30 you will see that I had adjusted the sled and recut giving me the error as stated.
David Stanton indeed you did. I'd buy one but some reviews were not very complimentary. Will try making a pi/2 sled first.
hi there Dave does carbatec have these in australia
Hi Rob's Woodworking ! That is where I purchased mine from.
I greatly prefer a sled that spans the blade, supports stock on both sides and runs on 2 slots. I've had terrible tear-out problems with this type of sled.
Hi Tioga. I also have a larger sled that runs on both slots but I find it hard to create anything other than a square cut with it unless I am trimming a piece with no overhang.
Hi Dave. Did you buy this in Oz, or from the States? Available through Carbatec?
Say Merry Christmas to Barry the Elf for me.
I bought it from Carbatec. Merry Christmas to you as well!
Hi Dave, I noticed that this is going for $A229 and in the US they are about $US120 ($A160), Do you know where I can get a better deal in OZ? (Sydney)
Cheapest I could find them was Amazon. amzn.to/2i0Oh2I
Hello David , what blade and how many teeth blade you use to cut male mine board
I use a triple cut blade with 80 teeth on a 10 inch table saw.
Cheers
1650mm = 1.65 M. isn't it?
Correct. The sled was out 0.1 mm over 1.65 meters which is 1650 mm. To make it easier to visualize the degree of accuracy I multiplied both by 10 to get 16.5 meters (16500 mm) out by one millimeter.
Dave bought based on your recommendation out of the box it was bad the indicator was not glued in properly the miter box bar was next to impossible to get tight in the slot also had a spring missing good idea bad design Rockler needs to step up to the plate and fix this thing, this item in my eyes is not worth the money.
Thanks for the feedback Wayne. Return it for a refund or replacement. I can only comment on the one I purchased which was as I explained in the video.
Your calculation are off. 1650 mm it's 1.65 m not 16.5 m. 0,1 still pretty good but not as dramatically good. Thank you for your video
Thank you Aleksandr Kumok but he sled was out 0.1 mm over 1.65 meters which is 1650 mm. To make it easier to visualize the degree of accuracy I multiplied both by 10 to get 16.5 meters (16500 mm) out by one millimeter.