These two intelligent, intrepid, tenacious, compassionate women are the reason we subscribers to the Murdaugh Murders Podcast have a deep, detailed understanding of the many tentacles that reach out from the various stories in this huge family saga. So proud of them, and grateful to them for all of their hard work! Thank you, Katie, for having them on your platform. They deserve national attention.
Doesn't change the fact the it would have been next to impossible for Alex killed his family. What kind of sick person would think a man could kill his own son? which a shot gun none the less?! you people are disgusting. Hopefully when you get judged, you get judged the same way you judged Alex... from a bunch of lonely old women on a podcast
How inspiring these brave women are. I am almost 70 years old and have lived a lot. It is so easy to be cynical and jaded with the truth of the world. Thank you to both of you!
@Kay Brown That's true, It's both a blessing and sometimes a curse because it's hard to trust people when you find out who they truly are. I've been through a lot of abuse, so I have many traumatic memories that haunt me. At the moment, I'm struggling with having to move out of the flat I've rented for almost 8 years because the landlord wants to sell and wants vacant possession. It's been a nightmare as there are no affordable places to rent now in UK. I've spent the last 7 years making this place beautiful. It's heartbreaking, but I have no choice. I tell myself one day I will have a place to call home. Xx
@@lainey3809 Oh Lainey, I am so very sorry, it must be so very hard. Have you found a new place ? Please tell me about your life. Somehow I feel connected to you. I too, have suffered many abuses in my life and so, I understand.
"Bravery" is serving in the military , or being a cop on the beat in a dangerous neighborhood,. Publishing an unpopular story (to some people) is what they are supposed to do.
@@tamararutland-mills9530 Katie had to pull teeth for this interview. And when they say, who knows the motive? SC doesn't allow a psychological aspect into the courtroom but prosecution cited Family Annihilator fit the bill for Alex who followed it as if a script.
@@ak203they're exposing crimes of dangerous family and co-conspirators. That's scary enough that NO ONE else ever dared to expose them publically. Soldiers and first responders are absolutely brave, but it doesn't have to be either/or. Investigative reporters AND first responders AND Soldiers can all be brave in their own way. I don't think calling these women brave means that no one else is.
challenging the system?? the state IS the system... and the system had PAPER THIN, CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence at best.. and what EXACTLY was the motive??? That he had been stealing money for like 20 years and Pauls boat case so he killed his own family (which even the states witnesses said they we a loving family, never seen fighting) BUT not kill buster for some reason?? Why not kill the lady asking where the money was from the firm? Why not just kill Paul? he was with him alone all day... for every reason there was motive for Alex to kill his own family there had to be at least 20 other people that wanted to hurt Paul or at least get back at Alex for stealing right?!? BUT SURE, FIGHT THE SYSTEM!! you probably got the right guy he was a POS anyway and probably deserved to be in prison for stealing anyway, probably! ...probably.... Certainly wasn't politically motivated tho, just because Alex and Maggie were powerful long time donors for the Democrats and South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson (Republican) (this was the guy who came in on the last day of rebuttal and questioned witnesses) and definitely isn't up for reelection this year, oh and DEFINITELY doesn't have any say on how SLED conducts their interviews would NEVER force a flimsy prosecution by lying to a grand jury about blood spattered clothes and shot shells. (FACT) Its almost like if you don't think about it, it makes total sense.. oh and congrats Mandy and liz...
@@BBB-rd2qiI came across them about twelve months ago and was hooked . The story became more and more complicated and deep . So many deaths and accidents . About 80 episodes !
I was a TV reporter in SC and grew up there, I never thought I would see this day. It is so critical to support local newspapers! I am so proud of these women. My daughter is going into journalism. This video is a must watch for her. Thank you so much for the extensive interview of these two women.
I think Mandy and Liz are still underestimated in their involvement in bringing down this family. It started with them asking questions and not letting go or accepting answers and just digging. If it wasn't for Mandy, Liz and David I truly think all these crimes would still be going on. If there isn't worldwide recognition for the work they have done it will be a tragedy. Journalism at its very very finest. Well done ladies (and David)🥇massive congratulations from the U.K.
I followed this story since Dateline had an episode about the boat crash, the student Steven Smith, and the housekeeper. Steven Smith's family needs to find out the truth too. Brave ladies that didn't stop until you started to uncover the connections. Your bravery and perseverance is an inspiration.
these ladies did democracy and the republic a great service, and an honorable duty for South Carolina by crashing a corrupt fiefdom. there are other fiefdoms that need to be spotlighted.
It’s taken me over 60 years to un learn to not go with my gut because, that’s what’s been ingrained in me as a woman. So girls, I’m proud as heck of you.✊🏼♥️
Well done, ladies. I’m paraphrasing here, but I remember Mandy often saying that everything done in the dark will be revealed in the light. She said it more eloquently. Y’all have a lot to be proud of!!!
What was despicable was the fact when Mallory’s family attempted to go down to the boat site and the crash, they were denied by law enforcement, yet they watched as the Murdaughs went down right after them, and they were immediately allowed entry, and that showed that AM saying he didn’t trust SLED or law enforcement during the trial, was complete BS!!!
As an investigative journalist and an author, I have been following their reporting all the way from Israel. They should be held as standard bearers for excellence in reporting. Kudos!
Had it not been for you 2 ladies I don't think we would be where we are today with this case. You were persistent and you never have up in uncovering the truth about this family no matter how prominent they were in the community. You were not afraid of them when everyone else was. You both deserve all the accolades for your tremendous work and getting justice for all the victims in involved! I commend you Mandy and Liz for a job well done. You never gave up and didn't back down, even with the odds stacked against you! You were the voice for so many people! Thank you all so much for everything you did! I look forward to seeing what else you discover! My hope is there will finally be justice for Stephen Smith and I know you ladies will play a major part in that! You are just that good! Investigative journalism at its best! Much love to you both! ❤️
Mandy Matney & Liz Farrell are warriors. It took a lot of courage to pursue their investigative reporting/leads despite the bullying from Murdaugh cronies. You have inspired so many who want to follow in your footsteps globally & you've given a voice to the low country people at the bottom end of the Murdaugh fiefdom. Much love & energy to you from New Zealand 💐💜💐
They would deserve it for their thoroughness and temerity but a Pulitzer would also require an excellent command of their language. Unfortunately, their podcast, while thoughtful and gripping, was consistently riddled with grammar and syntax errors.
Mandy and Liz you are so brave to stand up against such a corrupt family. There is so much intrigue and darkness in this family and yet they were seen as an 'important' part of the community.
Kudos to both of these women. One comment they made is about the decline in local news sources, especially local investigative reporting, and how important they are.
Remember how much hell Harpootlian gave Mandy and Liz at the beginning? That right there tells you they're on the right track. From a lowcountry local, thank you for being our voice and for the bravery and sacrifices you make to expose the corrupt, deep south. 💗⚖️
Oh I remember! You are spot on! I’m not a local like you, but I started watching after Mallory Beach’s death on the boat accident. It was heartbreaking and something wasn’t right. Fortunately I found Mandy & Liz’s channel on Utube.
I’ve been watching their great UA-cam channel. But I didn’t know Harpootlian, the most arrogant man I’ve ever seen, went after Mandy and Liz. But can you tell me more about what Dick did to them? Thanks.
I remember that especially on the court hearing at the local jail when I saw Alex the first time in court after the side road shootings. I live in Chas SC and I have follow the story since the murders of Maggie and Paul. I did a lot of research. The jury did not hear as much as I did.
From someone from Charleston county, these good ole boys aren't to be messed with I'm so happy this man has been exposed and taken down. There is a lot more to this story than we know. I'm sure there is a lot more to find out.
I started watching these two ladies on their podcast about a month ago and had to go back and watch each and everyone. Have you listened to Alex’s calls from jail? They did a great job digging in, like two bird dogs on a trail and they made a great team. Good job ladies. This is another story behind the story. It just never ends.
Thank you for this interview of two of my heroes who deserve a larger stage. They are the real deal - tenacious, courageous, uncompromising, relentless, compassionate… every State and the public needs more like them!
I would love them to interview the care nurse who was looking after Miss Libby, she looked so scared on the stand, I think she will need a lot of support to continue in her field of work. Her moral core showed AM to be rotten to the core, she must have been terrified at the time.
Haha, YES!!! I am SO sensitive to “annoying voices” and have NEVER found either of them to be that…could never understand why people were so degrading about this…and why they were so compelled to COMMENT…if you don’t like it, scroll on by!!!
When I saw that the crime scene was examined in the night and released by daytime the very next day, I knew law enforcement was bad. Cops and all Alex's buddies were all over the place.
Try to imagine le focusing on doing their jobs investigating while keeping eyes in the back of their heads, knowing there's corruption on any side. Fellow cops or local justice system. Friends, foes or frenemies.
@@SS11660 SLED made many, many blunders, very basic stuff was not done ! I initially thought they intentionally tried to help. But it was more a combination of utter incompetence, being disorganized, too proud to call the FBI immediately (no shame in that for a small department that is lucky enough not having to deal with a lot of murders) - and of course deferential treatment of "Mister Alec" that meant they did not even entertain the notion that HE could be their main suspect. If a spouse of a murdered spouse has been nearby the murders scene (opportunity) by default he or she will be a "person of interest". Even if they were not near they will be asked for an alibi and that will be scutinized. No need to offend a person that was just traumatized but if a spouse "finds" killed family members and / or the other spouse ... unfortunately often it turns out that it wasnt't evil strangers that did the killing. This is different from crimes of passion, where one family member kills the other in a rage, and the situation is clear, and police often will get an immediate confession. No FBI expertise needed for that. SLED should have realized that they were out of their league. FBI would have picked up the red flags immediately. No way they would have handed over the house to him next day. No way they would have allowed many many visitors trampling all over the crime scene during night. Lawyers their spouses, familie all felt obliged to race to Alex' side. So they wandered around, and later in the night they were even SENT into the house. They ended up in the kitchen and dining area. Cleaned away food from the stove into the kitchen. of course their DNA everywhere. it was a wet day. IF there had been footprints or tyre marks from the alleged outside killers - they would have destroyed that evidence. Never mind that no one could know if the evil killers were still lurking nearby or had been forced to hide somewhere. Interestingly the lawyers (friends and collegues of Alex Murdaugh) did have some apprehensions of how the police handled it, they deal with civil lawsuits or maybe tax affairs, but even a lay person that had watched a little TV could see how police failed to secure the scene. But the social pressure to be seen there as support - even though they could do nothing - was stronger than commons sense. Not that the lawyers could have forced police to do the most basic things.
@@SS11660 It was the filming of Paul (unforeseeable in the murderous plans of AM) that helped most to get his murderous father convicted. w/o that and w/o the phone and car data, the prosecution would have lost the case. The kennel footage was super important + the phone conversation with a friend that waited for Paul to finish shooting a better video to send it to him, so that a vet could look at the problem the dog had with the sore spot on his tail. Paul never got around to finishing that dog video, let alone sending it, but he had created footage (only on his phone that made clear that Alex was at the scene mere 4 minutes before the shootings started. (it was also lucky that his father was too stupid to dispose of the phone). His friend waited for the video to come within minutes, meanwhile Paul and then Maggie were shot. That is why investigators could be so sure when they had been murdered. Paul stood before the kennel, I think Alex only saw his back, saw or herd him on the phone engaged in a conversation with a friend, then ending the call, but did not fully realize that he already recorded (and recorded the voice of his father as well). It was also lucky that the idiot denied so long that he was there - he denied it because that messed up his narrative and the timeline that would give him an alibi. It was pure luck that he was not smart enough to take the phone immediately from Paul (after son and mother were dead), take out battery and sim card and hide it in a provisory spot. He relied on it that incompetent and submissive police would give him plenty of time to hide and remove evidence - and he was right. Had he taken the phone, AM likely would have gotten away with murder. His personal phone that AM had on him while in the kennel, during the clean up and then during the drive to his mother, the stay and back, and car GPS data were also contradicting his story, but the kennel video and the testimony of the friend waiting for a good video was more tangible and touching. If AM had left his phone in the house and had driven over in a vintage car and if he would have been smart enough to dispose correctly of both phones (like he did a good job with the weapons) - he would have gotten away with murder. The SLED investigation and their securing of the scene (or lack thereof) was extremely poorly done. They could not mess up phone data, the providers have the data, and the specialists analysed it. And Paul had the most important evidence on his phone. That and the stupidity of his father made the conviction possible. If the case had depended on SLED .... oh dar. Also the video from the early evening that showed that AM must have changed clothes when he met police the first time (after the murder). The housekeeper that was adament that she knew he had worn the blue-greenish shirt (she had fixed his collar the morning before). She was sure she had not washed it and had never seen it again. AM did try to nudge / coerce her into changing her testimony after some months. This conversation - out of the blue for her - rattled her so much, that she called her brother who works for the police. To a degree the testimony of the worker contributed to the many things that did not add up with AM's narrative. That worker was OCD about how to store away the hose in the kennel area and how to be careful about the foundation of the building and to avoid puddles at certain places when HE did the daily routine of rinsing the kennel area. He knew immediately that someone had used the hose after him - in the time between 4.30 pm and the next morning, when he was called over. Police was too incompetent to thoroughly search for tiny rests of tissue and blood in the drains, they must have been there. But he was such a good witness, and believeable in his strict adherence to the routines that it was clear - "someone" had done a rinsedown in that area. The hypothetical murders ? (there is no reason why Paul, Alex, or Maggie would have done it, and as we know from their phone data they all arrived later. 6 pm, 7 pm ... so when would they have used the hose and why ? The hired a worker for keeping the area clean for the dogs (and to feed them and the chickens). But if the killers did not want to enter their vehicles with bloody shoes - why did they take time out of their day to hang up the hose again ? (but in a sloppy manner so the worker noticed immediately that this was not at all how he hangs up the hose, no water drained out, nozzle not in the right position, etc. And after his routine cleaning the puddles would have dried up before night, even in winter. And they were in the wrong places anywhere. This only made sense if Alex had rinsed off cover, shoes, but did not want to draw attention to that. Because police would find it doubtful that outside killers would even bother to clean themselves. And certainly they would not delay their flight to hang up the hose, not even in a sloppy manner. They would likely run to their car (with clean or bloody shoes) that they had parked in some distance (hidden in the forest - parking at the house would also mess with AM's narrative for several reasons ). They would jump out of garments and shoes, throw all into a bag, change and only then get into the vehicle. Skillful killers would have worn gloves during the shootings, protective clothes, head covers, and maybe they would even operate with a stolen vehicle so it would not matter if they left traces of DNA, blood and tissue of their victims in the car. Alex on the other hand had to race back into the house to shower before he enacted his alibi narrative (visit at mothers house). He could not leave even small traces of tissue or blood in the house (and the shooting was messy, lots of body tissue splattering around) so a precleaning was very important. I even think that AM might have given the dog the sore spot, so he could lure dog lovers Maggie and Paul to the kennel area. Where he could kill them and then preclean himself. he knew what wounds and mess those high-powered weapons create (they were also used for hog hunting).
Love these two amazing journalists. Been listing to Murdaugh Murders Podcast for a year now. Hope they get credit where credit is due for keeping this crazy story in the SUNLIGHT. 💛❤🧡🌞🧡❤💛
Thank you for giving these two women credit! Four plus years reporting on the Murdaugh family!!!! Their real reporting helped keep this case alive!!!!!!!
With true journalism being an endangered species, these ladies are a breath of fresh air! Credible and committed to evidence based reporting. Thanks Mandy and Liz for you're very enthusiastic and entertaining hard work.
Way to go Mandy and Liz !!!!!! You both were so brave and you worked tirelessly to help bring about justice. So proud of you both and we will never forget that you ladies were such a huge part of the reason that Alex Murdaugh was finally brought down !!! #MurdaughMurdersPodcast
They cracked open the 100 year old Murdaugh Corruption Spell, brought a ray of Sunlight to dispel the dense and swirling fog of deception and unspoken grief. Time has come to clear the air for All to breath easy.
I didn’t learn about their podcast until after the verdict. It’s fascinating! Even though I watched a fair amount of the trial and saw the Netflix documentary, listening to their well-documented research is blowing my socks off! So much backstory to be reported-it’s really connecting a lot of the dots for me. Well done 👏
I listened to their podcast and truly binged to catch up. They had the best and most accurate reporting and KUDOS TO THEM!! Nice to see journalism with integrity, always. Thanks so much for putting yourselves out there, ladies!
Mandy and Liz have demonstrated excellence and integrity in their investigative reporting on the Murdaugh Family! I have been so impressed by the depth of research they've done, always "Bringing the Receipts" with FOIA documents and source development. Armed with facts, they shine a spotlight into the darkness and ask the hard questions....which no one else has had the courage to do before them. I am thrilled that Katie recognized their outstanding work!
For anyone who is just popping in, Mandy was the one who figured out that there was poison in the soup. She did a lot of research and was threatened etc. but would not be deterred. Everything that she reported over the years has been found true. She was joined by Liz and the two of them took a run at A.M. These brave women.. I want to send my deepest thanks.😳
“People like to be heroes, and our job is to show them how they can be” ✨ Brilliant ✨ Liz, you two ladies are my hero’s, and because of you gals I feel a renewed hopefulness for society.
I think Alex had suppressed anger towards Paul for boat wreck because it was bringing his crimes to light. He even said in one of his interviews w/police he said " whoever did this hated Paul." And he said to Marian " whoever did this planned it a long time."
Vicki Gray...thank you. I knew someone stated that AM said "whoever did this hated Paul ". I wasn't sure who stated that AM had said "whoever did this planned it a long time."....thank you for bringing these to "LIGHT". I am just puzzled as to why the whole statement was not mentioned by the Prosecution again.
I think by referring to Paul by his childhood nickname “PaPa”, he was showing that he loved his young son but killed the older teenager who was causing his downfall!
Thank you ladies for your " dog with a bone" mentality. You wouldn't let it go and we're all thankful for you. It would be easy to feel intimidated and scared of reporting on this family. We wish you continued success ☺
Thank you to these ladies! I've been following their reporting since the beginning of this tragedy. They both did an excellent job. Impeccable research. These ladies put themselves at risk in order to gather FACTS. I am SO Proud of them.❤
Anyone watching the trial could see that he was almost surrounded by strong, clear-thinking women. Women who undoubtedly watched him and his type get away with everything forever. They were brilliant in their testimony.
The fact that so many intelligent, strong women helped take Alex down is, for me, the ‘icing on the cake’ of this whole trial. I don’t think he had any regard for those women AT ALL -- or any women, for that matter. He must have been stunned to learn everything they knew about him and his misdeeds. That’s just… *chef’s kiss*
I wonder if he murdered them because of his father’s probate when he passed. Did Alex’s dad set up a trust that went to his grandchildren and if Paul died, the money would go to Alex? I know it sounds convoluted, but trusts can be set up in a way that works like that. 🧐
Thank you Mandy and Liz! I subscribed and have followed you all regularly throughout this trial. You did such a great job investigating this very sick family and their many victims. Thank you for being there to share it with us along the way. God bless you both
Huge that people can now maybe feel more open to share about Murdaugh nightmares.., hopefully more information will be forth coming for Stephen Smith & his mysterious death .
The easiest way would do what everyone is already doing to tear a family completely apart just because of the name Murdough and put it all on Paul who can't defend himself from the grave to close all the pending legal cases. It seems to be a going trend for people of today is to bring down those who have worked hard in building a legacy that others can only wish for but don't want to put the effort into it, much easier to just tear them apart piece by piece. Just let those who really murdered Paul and Maggie sail away into the sunset. The ones who know the truth I hope it keeps them awake at night unable to get rid of the ghosts that will haunt them until they confess or die letting the devil win more souls.
I would be so overwhelmed to kind out more on the Murdaugh family. Alex I believe has done alot of killings. People were afraid of him, but now they can whisper who did this or Alex done that. Or was it Paul Alex prolly put him up to it. Or Buster may have had a hand in it. Stephen would never guess Buster running him over.
Thank you for your wonderful informative show. I am 83 yrs and you have always been the very best and watched you previous shows and interviews. AM was the boy who cried wolf!!! From Waterbury Vermont
Bravo Mandy and Liz! I’ve been following your reports throughout the trial and am incredibly impressed with the depth of your research, your integrity, your determination to speak up for justice and for your bravery and perseverance! Well done!,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏🇨🇦
I was totally shocked that the verdict came back in 3 hours. I just thought it would be days. Shocked he was found guilty. They got it right. Love these ladies. Been listening to Liz & Mandy from the beginning,
Thank you for acknowledging the long hours and unbelievable dedication of these two women who put their heart and souls into bringing injustice into the sunlight. It is about time that the powerful and privileged drink from the same cup of justice. ☀️ ☕️ ❤
What a great interview! I was impressed with Katie's knowledge of the case and her questions were on point. Both Mandy & Liz deserve an award for breaking this story and sticking to it, especially when they received a lot of push back and threats. Congratulations on your success ladies!
..and stop speaking. The vocal fry is like nails on a chalkboard. You can tell that on the podcast Mandy's gotten a lot of sht over it because she's clearly tried to change it in the later episodes....but MAN, it's too jarring to listen to. I've subscribed and unsubscribed so many times throughout this saga - I want the awesome information they've uncovered but damn, it's more jarring than listening to AM say "Paw-Paw" all throughout his testimony. Doing an impromptu on-camera interview is probably the worst thing Mandy can do for her career. She needs help getting rid of it from a speech therapist it's so bad.
@@bobbiemooser7417 It has nothing to do with understanding the information - the trouble is that it's a podcast - a listening medium without CC - and her vocal fry is so jarring that it drowns out the information that she's trying to tell. Listen to Katie Couric's voice in comparison. Listen to how she ends her sentences compared to Mandy. She's def. has had a vocal coach in the past and all I'm saying that if Mandy wants to further her speaking career she should get in with a good speech therapist to cure her of that awful impediment.
The jury got it right! Compelled to watch this trial daily and glad i did - so sad, but so thankful this man was brought to justice. Thanks ladies for your part in bringing things to light.
After the verdict was correctly read the judge thanked the jury and recommended them for having weighed the evidence (circumstancial and otherwise) CORRECTLY. He fully agreed with their assessment.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEIR PODCAST !!!!!!’ I learned so much new information that wasn’t covered in other you tube channels. They connected sooooo many dots by the extra information and in depth research!!! You go girls !!!
So beyond grateful that a cup justice has been served! Love these 2, and I admire their courage, incredible dedication, intellect, intuition, and compassion. Huge shoutouts to Eric Bland too! Let’s hope that now, the mysteries surrounding Stephen Smith and Gloria Satterfield will also be solved.
I live in a small town in the UK, totally understand those who have power and the rest of us. Liz and Mandy, I watched your pod casts for a full day, just two weeks ago as you had me hooked. Your work reminded me of good old fashioned journalism. Looking forward to the "prison tapes" now the trial is over. Mr Murdaugh won't be able to help himself, as his entitlement is engraved into his every fibre. Thank you.
I also look forward to hearing more prison calls now that he's moved into the big boy prison as a convicted murderer. Is he still going to orchestrate additional asset moving and hiding of assets as he faces upcoming financial trials? Is he going to be talking at all about remorse? I'd love to hear him apologize to Buster for taking away his entire family.
Thank you Katie for giving these ladies recognition they deserve. Been listening to the podcast for a year or more. Crazy that Mandy was so spot on early into the investigation!! Mandy you are greatly appreciate & congratulations on your relatively new wedding
These 2 young ladies will be on/have jobs/careers on a major network in the very near by future. I just started following this case about a month ago and found their channel and they have done some amazing work!!!! Thank u Mandy & Liz!!!!!!!!
Thank-you Mandy, Liz & David!!! So happy to see two of the best journalists EVER being interviewed by Katie Couric...I’ve so enjoyed your program on UTube...covering the day-to-day “goings-on” of the Murdaugh saga. Talented, young, curious & energetic, you guys have wonderful futures, & I CANNOT wait to join vicariously your next adventure into finding the truth!!! So proud of y’all!!!🙏. Alice Slaton Grant...Concord, NC
I love the look of joy these women have talking with a legend of reporting who made a pathway for them. They are fan-girling and I love it! Well done 👏👏
Mandy and Liz, God used you two to uncover these details that led to justice and light for the whole lowcountry!! He used you two even if you didn’t realize that! He has given y’all the gifts of skills to look deeper and bring justice to light! Thank you for your persistence and commitment to truth in all these situations!! My family has followed you both from the beginning of all this (even before your collaboration) and will continue in your future reporting! Many thanks from Upstate SC! ❤️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼✝️
These two smart women are super warriors!!! There are still so many facts that need to be explored and exposed. I can’t imagine how much pressure these two and their team were under even before Maggie and Paul were murdered. The “good ol boys” gang is tight , secretive and so powerful and they don’t like their secrets coming to light. I hope they are all very careful with their safety as I feel like there is so much more to this story and the more they uncover, the more they are seen as a threat to those involved in unscrupulous and illegal actions. I would really love to know how and why Alec was paying $50,000 a week to his cousin Eddie because there is no way Alec was consuming that many oxy’s and still be breathing. There is so much more to this all. I feel like this is just scratching the surface .
My pet theory is Alex used cousin Eddie as a bagman to distribute drugs and multiple the money he had stolen from his clients. In the wake of the boat accident Alex took the drug profits and stashed them overseas in a country without extradition. The missing funds discovered at his law firm threw a wrench in his plan and prompted the murders. The deaths were to buy time, so he could once again straighten out his account, because he couldn't retrieve the oversea funds immediately. Also he knew the sympathy generated by the deaths of his wife and son would get him removed from the lawsuit. He counted on friends in the legal community and law enforcement to make the witness tampering investigation either go away or stall. Giving him time to sell his US properties, before he disappeared. His plan might have worked if not for the video on Paul's phone.
He was moving his money out of his name because of the boat accident. I wouldn’t be surprise if Eddie gave him back cash to bury on Mozelle’s 17,000 acreage. Plus off shore banks.
These women are amazingly determined and brave; I have been glued to their podcast since discovering it in fall of 2021. Their quest for the truth, justice and support for those who’s voices and stories are skewed by much of the media and brushed under the rug by those with power and money, is beyond admirable. Thank you for highlighting these amazing women and what they’ve accomplished this far…so excited to see what lies ahead in their quest for truth and Justice!
Great work ladies. Powerful people often times have the police and top lawyers in their corner. Continue to research ask questions and seek the truth. One justice system for all.
I first heard your praises being sung by the comedienne, Kathleen Madigan, who is an admirer of Murdaugh Podcast. I was so happy that I located your podcast & you have a long-time fan in me. Please write a book of your observations, research techniques & how you made it through the many roadblocks you had to encounter over the last several years. Thank you for your dedication & thank you also to Katie Couric for showcasing this podcast.
Thanks to this two young ladies. Underrated excellent journalism👏👏. I have been following this story for years. I first watched when Stephen's mum Sandy with her 'bunny tails' hairstyle holding a placcad on her own, asking passers-by for help finding her son's killer. People were mocking her and hurling insults. I cried so much that day and I started following the story checking whether Sandy would get justice. It has come a long way💔. Sandy is my hero! I hope the FBI cold cases team takes over Stephens case and get this culprit! Alex finally shot himself in the foot stealing from those who covered his ass for so long! Maybe he killed to pay a drug debt or the demon in him did it. Spoilt brat who never understood the meaning of working for a living. Buster is another emminent failure.
Perhaps Buster will do okay now that he does not have his father controlling and ordering around . He sounded very happy where he was working and very obviously did not want to be a lawyer as his father was pushing him to be . His uncle is close to him and will take care of him and his girlfriend has stuck by him . I do not believe that people should be accusing him of murdering Stephen just because of a rumour . Perhaps Alex had a liaison with him and had him removed .
Thank you Katie for recognizing these two brave ladies that have been covering this corruption for 4yrs , they were very brave , we are thankful they kept going and digging when no one else would.
You bring up a very good point. In fact, I wonder if Alex actually killed his housekeeper, blamed it on the dogs and Maggie and Paul found her on the stairs. They may have assumed she "fell". Later on, Paul and Maggie realized Alex hit her in the head and would expose him. That was the real reason he killed Maggie and Paul. Supposedly, Maggie didn't let the dogs in the house. They were outside dogs. Why would they be on the porch if not allowed in the house? Moselle is a big place. Plus, neither Maggie nor Paul sounded particularly surprised nor scared if they had just found the housekeeper down on the stairs with such a serious head wound.
Alex thought as a hunter. He first did disabling shots for Maggie and Paul to prevent their escape from a missed kill shot. Alex escaped his kill shot, didn't he? An attempt he planned.
I so admire Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell and have followed them from the beginning. They stood up for truth and transparency (sunlight!) and felled a blow against corruption everywhere, let alone the very concrete benefit to the victims in these labyrinthine cases. Thank you for interviewing them. Everyone should follow them, because I'm sure more truth-telling is to come.
@Brown eyes Paul was talking to his buddy about his dog's tail at the kennels; his buddy told him to video it and send it to him, while Paul was videoin you could hear Alex in the back ground. Alex told Everybody he wasn't down there at all. Also earlier Alex n Paul were looking at the trees one kept falling over Paul was laughing at his dad trying to get it to stand up. Alex was wearing the clothes he killed them in. The clothes have never showed up. Alex got rid of them and the guns. The video of dog 3 minutes later Paul and Maggie were shot to death.
You always know someone's guilty by pretending to cry in front of the camera or witnesses, but there are never tears. I think it was Maggie that had said Alex was there when the housekeeper "fell", but a male employee (groundskeeper?) said he was not there. I questioned that. I felt it was Alex that killed her from the get-go, especially regarding the lawsuit. It was very odd that after the boat accident the family immediately hauled the boat off. The crime scene was contaminated. No investigation, attempts were made to throw another boy under the bus, immediately tried to manipulate the injured while in the hospital as a self-proclaimed attorney representing them. No care whatsoever about the missing girl. Paul was never handcuffed, arrested or spent time in jail despite what all the kids were telling the officers. The police didn't even bother to notify the missing girl's family. Also Alex's brother saying he cleaned up the crime scene of Paul and Maggie because he felt he owed that to Paul. Wth? And not Maggie, just Paul. No family personally does that. Once again crime scene contaminated and evidence "cleaned up". I feel there's suspicious involvement with Alex's brothers as well that need to be looked into. I commend you two ladies, but I also worry for you. I know what these good ol boys are like and bringing light to their involvement, their turning their heads, their protecting the Murdaugh's and contaminating crime scenes can be dangerous. I feel this could go on for a long time to draw this all out and save this town, but it would take outside law enforcement to come in to do so and prosecute those involved in illegal behavior.
As for cleaning up the crime scene, I’d recommend listening to Emily D Baker’s analysis. She points out that was definitely a failing of law enforcement for not insisting on securing the scene and instead actively saying they were done with it. It’s possible he was doing it because he was involved somehow, but Emily points out his response actually was pretty normal and consistent with how people respond in that scenario. She points out once the crime scene techs leave there is zero support for the families in cleaning up the crime scene or knowing what to do next. Pretend for a minute that your best friend has a child die and you are there helping out and the police release the crime scene and it is time for your best friend to now go to sleep for the night. As traumatic as the situation is for you and your friend, assuming you believe it is a tragedia accident and your best friend is innocent might there be a part of you that feels maybe you can help your friend out by cleaning up the scene so they don’t have to go to bed after a very difficult, exhausting day knowing the room is covered in the blood, etc. from their precious child? I’m not saying he’s automatically innocent. He definitely could have been involved and covering things up. But the point is for him the cleaning up behavior isn’t strange at all and doesn’t necessarily automatically indicate guilt, either. If someone close to me died and I believe there is no criminal evidence remaining to collect, I also don’t think I would be able to sleep knowing parts of that person are still all over the room. It somehow feels disrespectful to the person who died. Cleaning feels like I’m tying up that lose end and am at least giving their spirit or memory a bit of peace and closure. Plus, it means when I walk in the room the next day I don’t have to immediately be confronted with a powerful reminder of the horror that happened in that room.
@@hollybigelow5337 I agree with you. I personally couldn't have cleaned up the remains. I would have contacted one of those businesses that do that, but that's just me. I did get a little suspicious that there were no tears on the brother's face, though, but maybe he wiped them before they came out of his eyes. One thing I found suspicious about Alex & his brother's tears is that they both wipe their nose and then wipe their eyes on the same spot on the tissue. I have never wiped my nose and then wiped my eyes on the same spot where presumably there is snot. That's just gross and makes me wonder.
@@robertarnsworth2464 I definitely agree about the suspiciousness ofthere a lot of things. Watching Alex, I never saw anything that even remotely looked like tears. The brother was a little harder for me to read. I'm honestly in a middle spot with him. I don't for sure trust him, but I don't for sure distrust him, either. I would call most of the signals from him mixed. If he is genuinely sad, there is something about him that is different than the average person. However, if he is genuinely guilty there's also something different about him from the typical sociopath. Alex comes off as the typical sociopath to me. I agree that I personally would really struggle to do the cleaning and would prefer to hire someone, but I'll also throw in that that pre-supposes I actually could get someone there in a timely manner to do the job. In this particular case I wouldn't expect there to be any worry about money, but you still might run into the problem that no one is in the office to take the call, or someone takes the call but can't fit you in for 3 days. And I could also see some people wanting to do it themselves rather than outsourcing that task as a final act of honor or love. That isn't me. I absolutely would have to hire someone else to take care of it. But if I had more strength and ability to face a cleaning task like that I absolutely could see it being me. That goes double if I am particularly rich because when I have the money to hire anyone to do anything for me it becomes even more meaningful when I am willing to take care of something myself. The gift of, "I'm not going to outsource this," might genuinely be the absolute biggest gift I could think of giving both to the surviving family members and to the deceased family members. For a fictional example, I could point to Harry Potter when Harry decides he needs to bury Dobby without using any magic. It certainly wouldn't be how I would personally approach that situation, either, but the emotional response still rings true to me, and the sacrifice comes off as being meaningful.
Mandy & Liz.....both you are so incredibly brave, courageous, & amazing. There are absolutely no words that are good enough to express the wonderful work you both have done. Truly inspiring & 2 individuals that deserve so much respect, appreciation, love & support. Thank you for bringing out the truth so that justice can be given to the many who have been terribly hurt by Alex, the family, & those that aided & abetted him.
So glad Katie interviewed these two! You both deserve the credit!! Such an awesome interview I’ve been dying for more episodes on the podcast! Please post soon!
These two intelligent, intrepid, tenacious, compassionate women are the reason we subscribers to the Murdaugh Murders Podcast have a deep, detailed understanding of the many tentacles that reach out from the various stories in this huge family saga. So proud of them, and grateful to them for all of their hard work! Thank you, Katie, for having them on your platform. They deserve national attention.
Doesn't change the fact the it would have been next to impossible for Alex killed his family. What kind of sick person would think a man could kill his own son? which a shot gun none the less?! you people are disgusting. Hopefully when you get judged, you get judged the same way you judged Alex... from a bunch of lonely old women on a podcast
Well said!
Absolutely!
Absolutely right! I hope no one buys that WP reporter’s investigative “adjacent” book. The book to read is from these 2!
@@catherinesmith312 - Me too! I knew nothing about it until reading it here.
How inspiring these brave women are. I am almost 70 years old and have lived a lot. It is so easy to be cynical and jaded with the truth of the world. Thank you to both of you!
Hi Kay 👋.. Great comment. I'm 71 so I know what you mean.
@@lainey3809 Thank you, Lainey. It is one of the values of aging. The ability to see things more clearly.
@Kay Brown That's true, It's both a blessing and sometimes a curse because it's hard to trust people when you find out who they truly are.
I've been through a lot of abuse, so
I have many traumatic memories that haunt me. At the moment, I'm struggling with having to move out of the flat I've rented for almost 8 years because the landlord wants to sell and wants vacant possession.
It's been a nightmare as there are no affordable places to rent now in UK.
I've spent the last 7 years making this place beautiful. It's heartbreaking, but I have no choice.
I tell myself one day I will have a place to call home. Xx
@@lainey3809 Oh Lainey, I am so very sorry, it must be so very hard. Have you found a new place ? Please tell me about your life. Somehow I feel connected to you. I too, have suffered many abuses in my life and so, I understand.
@@lainey3809 I apologize for the late reply. I didn't see that you had replied, but will watch for it now.
A big thank you goes out to these two women for being brave enough to reach out and disclose what was being hidden by society.
I wish Mandy would have let the other woman talk more, and would not have dominated the whole interview.
"Bravery" is serving in the military , or being a cop on the beat in a dangerous neighborhood,. Publishing an unpopular story (to some people) is what they are supposed to do.
@@tamararutland-mills9530 Katie had to pull teeth for this interview. And when they say, who knows the motive? SC doesn't allow a psychological aspect into the courtroom but prosecution cited Family Annihilator fit the bill for Alex who followed it as if a script.
@@ak203they're exposing crimes of dangerous family and co-conspirators. That's scary enough that NO ONE else ever dared to expose them publically.
Soldiers and first responders are absolutely brave, but it doesn't have to be either/or. Investigative reporters AND first responders AND Soldiers can all be brave in their own way.
I don't think calling these women brave means that no one else is.
I am shocked that the entire community allowed this type of behavior?!
Mandy and Liz deserve a huge award for their coverage.
So exciting to see Mandy & Liz get a larger platform to help bring justice for all of these victims and challenging the system.
challenging the system?? the state IS the system... and the system had PAPER THIN, CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence at best.. and what EXACTLY was the motive??? That he had been stealing money for like 20 years and Pauls boat case so he killed his own family (which even the states witnesses said they we a loving family, never seen fighting) BUT not kill buster for some reason?? Why not kill the lady asking where the money was from the firm? Why not just kill Paul? he was with him alone all day... for every reason there was motive for Alex to kill his own family there had to be at least 20 other people that wanted to hurt Paul or at least get back at Alex for stealing right?!? BUT SURE, FIGHT THE SYSTEM!! you probably got the right guy he was a POS anyway and probably deserved to be in prison for stealing anyway, probably! ...probably.... Certainly wasn't politically motivated tho, just because Alex and Maggie were powerful long time donors for the Democrats and South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson (Republican) (this was the guy who came in on the last day of rebuttal and questioned witnesses) and definitely isn't up for reelection this year, oh and DEFINITELY doesn't have any say on how SLED conducts their interviews would NEVER force a flimsy prosecution by lying to a grand jury about blood spattered clothes and shot shells. (FACT) Its almost like if you don't think about it, it makes total sense.. oh and congrats Mandy and liz...
Right?! I’ve followed these women for two years, since Mallory Beach’s death in the boat accident.
@@BBB-rd2qiI came across them about twelve months ago and was hooked . The story became more and more complicated and deep . So many deaths and accidents . About 80 episodes !
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I was a TV reporter in SC and grew up there, I never thought I would see this day. It is so critical to support local newspapers! I am so proud of these women. My daughter is going into journalism. This video is a must watch for her. Thank you so much for the extensive interview of these two women.
I think Mandy and Liz are still underestimated in their involvement in bringing down this family. It started with them asking questions and not letting go or accepting answers and just digging. If it wasn't for Mandy, Liz and David I truly think all these crimes would still be going on. If there isn't worldwide recognition for the work they have done it will be a tragedy. Journalism at its very very finest. Well done ladies (and David)🥇massive congratulations from the U.K.
They aren’t done yet!
Their work was plagiarised/ stolen by thieving con artist pseudo-reporters .
Please keep shinning the light ! We need Gloria's body exhumed and Buster to come clean about Stephen Smith
@@evansgranny1 ...I hope not. I would like to know about the boat incident and the young man found on a country road un-alive. 🧐🤔❓
100%
I followed this story since Dateline had an episode about the boat crash, the student Steven Smith, and the housekeeper. Steven Smith's family needs to find out the truth too. Brave ladies that didn't stop until you started to uncover the connections. Your bravery and perseverance is an inspiration.
Awesome interview!!! These women are BRAVE! They spoke truth to power and the loud minority who chastised and gaslighted them. I feel inspired.
🎉Even one of the investigators feared he was being followed and tracked just for doing his job. These women are extremely brave!
these ladies did democracy and the republic a great service, and an honorable duty for South Carolina by crashing a corrupt fiefdom. there are other fiefdoms that need to be spotlighted.
I agree with you, M Rose! Two amazing women!
I hope those ladies will be safe
It’s taken me over 60 years to un learn to not go with my gut because, that’s what’s been ingrained in me as a woman. So girls, I’m proud as heck of you.✊🏼♥️
Well done, ladies. I’m paraphrasing here, but I remember Mandy often saying that everything done in the dark will be revealed in the light. She said it more eloquently. Y’all have a lot to be proud of!!!
I love how the podcast starts with "I don't know " evertime.
@@sherielowe4256 I hope she’ll change that to “I DO KNOW” who killed….👏🏻
@@sherielowe4256I love that over time their subscribers have really jumped . I couldn’t understand why people had not picked up their channel .
What was despicable was the fact when Mallory’s family attempted to go down to the boat site and the crash, they were denied by law enforcement, yet they watched as the Murdaughs went down right after them, and they were immediately allowed entry, and that showed that AM saying he didn’t trust SLED or law enforcement during the trial, was complete BS!!!
that is appalling no doubt - but it pales in comparison to someone calling themselves trumpgirl 101? that is truly vile
@@pjpredhomme7699 LOL I was thinking the same thing. I mean how can a trumpgirl.not be aware of who he and his family are.
That situation really stuck with me too! Can you imagine???
@@pjpredhomme7699 I missed that part, who is trumpgirl101?
He didn't trust them..... because he knew how easy it was to sway them.....
As an investigative journalist and an author, I have been following their reporting all the way from Israel. They should be held as standard bearers for excellence in reporting. Kudos!
@@mariecleary exactly
Had it not been for you 2 ladies I don't think we would be where we are today with this case. You were persistent and you never have up in uncovering the truth about this family no matter how prominent they were in the community. You were not afraid of them when everyone else was. You both deserve all the accolades for your tremendous work and getting justice for all the victims in involved! I commend you Mandy and Liz for a job well done. You never gave up and didn't back down, even with the odds stacked against you! You were the voice for so many people! Thank you all so much for everything you did! I look forward to seeing what else you discover! My hope is there will finally be justice for Stephen Smith and I know you ladies will play a major part in that! You are just that good! Investigative journalism at its best! Much love to you both! ❤️
THIS is investigative journalism. Finding the truth without fear of consequences.
Or more likely, with the fear, and still doing it anyway. You could hear their relief that he is no longer at large.
@@UkeCan1 There is a John Wayne quote floating around that says "courage is having fear but saddling up anyhow".
I agree ☝️
Thank you Katie for letting these two women know how incredible they have been in reporting this story and how very brave . Thank you Mandy and Liz.
Loved the Murdaugh Murders podcast. Excellent journalism. These women improved the lives of an entire county!
Mandy Matney & Liz Farrell are warriors. It took a lot of courage to pursue their investigative reporting/leads despite the bullying from Murdaugh cronies.
You have inspired so many who want to follow in your footsteps globally & you've given a voice to the low country people at the bottom end of the Murdaugh fiefdom.
Much love & energy to you from New Zealand 💐💜💐
Warrior Princesses!
A cup of justice was served. Thank you ladies.
An entire pot of justice with side dishes
A whole pitcher!!
Indeed!
A cup of justice. .. with a full glass of Truth .. Keep up the great work that that you do. ..
@@msmj9102 Best Comment Ever!!
Thanks you to Mandy and Liz for their persistence in pursuing these cases. I applaud your courage!
They need to win a Pulitzer. Their research is so indepth and all encompassing. Their podcasts are absolutely riveting.
Truly! Time they get the credit they deserve instead of being derided as “bloggers”
@@gladysgreen2 That was so disgraceful by that Wall street journal reporter. The latter just stole all Mandy and Liz's work...
One thousand percent 💛❤🧡🌞🧡❤💛
Everything done in the dark will be exposed in the light
They would deserve it for their thoroughness and temerity but a Pulitzer would also require an excellent command of their language. Unfortunately, their podcast, while thoughtful and gripping, was consistently riddled with grammar and syntax errors.
These two deserve WAY more credit.
Mandy and Liz you are so brave to stand up against such a corrupt family. There is so much intrigue and darkness in this family and yet they were seen as an 'important' part of the community.
Kudos to both of these women. One comment they made is about the decline in local news sources, especially local investigative reporting, and how important they are.
Remember how much hell Harpootlian gave Mandy and Liz at the beginning? That right there tells you they're on the right track. From a lowcountry local, thank you for being our voice and for the bravery and sacrifices you make to expose the corrupt, deep south. 💗⚖️
Oh I remember! You are spot on! I’m not a local like you, but I started watching after Mallory Beach’s death on the boat accident. It was heartbreaking and something wasn’t right. Fortunately I found Mandy & Liz’s channel on Utube.
I’ve been watching their great UA-cam channel. But I didn’t know Harpootlian, the most arrogant man I’ve ever seen, went after Mandy and Liz. But can you tell me more about what Dick did to them? Thanks.
I remember that especially on the court hearing at the local jail when I saw Alex the first time in court after the side road shootings. I live in Chas SC and I have follow the story since the murders of Maggie and Paul. I did a lot of research. The jury did not hear as much as I did.
From someone from Charleston county, these good ole boys aren't to be messed with I'm so happy this man has been exposed and taken down. There is a lot more to this story than we know. I'm sure there is a lot more to find out.
And to think that guy is a senator or some such job sucking money off the taxpayers while claiming to “represent” them.
I started watching these two ladies on their podcast about a month ago and had to go back and watch each and everyone. Have you listened to Alex’s calls from jail? They did a great job digging in, like two bird dogs on a trail and they made a great team. Good job ladies. This is another story behind the story. It just never ends.
Thank you for this interview of two of my heroes who deserve a larger stage. They are the real deal - tenacious, courageous, uncompromising, relentless, compassionate… every State and the public needs more like them!
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I would love them to interview the care nurse who was looking after Miss Libby, she looked so scared on the stand, I think she will need a lot of support to continue in her field of work. Her moral core showed AM to be rotten to the core, she must have been terrified at the time.
It pissed me off that the defense had her family members stand in the audience. OMG, it was like putting a target on them.
@@juliamundt101 An intimidation tactic maybe? She was definitely scared...and she didn't know if he'd be found guilty or not. Scary stuff.
Isn’t this what the mob did in the Godfather, to intimidate a witness?
From vocal fry to Katie Couric, and everything in between, you ladies are an inspiration. I wish you nothing but good fortune going forward. ☀️ ☕️
Haha, YES!!! I am SO sensitive to “annoying voices” and have NEVER found either of them to be that…could never understand why people were so degrading about this…and why they were so compelled to COMMENT…if you don’t like it, scroll on by!!!
These two women ..no words for their bravery and outstandingly reporting! Their podcasts are award worthy in every way! Thank you both!
When I saw that the crime scene was examined in the night and released by daytime the very next day, I knew law enforcement was bad. Cops and all Alex's buddies were all over the place.
Le ended up getting what they needed.
Every time the defense whined about the quality of the investigation, I yelled "Well, my guys, it was done that way for a reason!"
Try to imagine le focusing on doing their jobs investigating while keeping eyes in the back of their heads, knowing there's corruption on any side. Fellow cops or local justice system. Friends, foes or frenemies.
@@SS11660 SLED made many, many blunders, very basic stuff was not done ! I initially thought they intentionally tried to help. But it was more a combination of utter incompetence, being disorganized, too proud to call the FBI immediately (no shame in that for a small department that is lucky enough not having to deal with a lot of murders) - and of course deferential treatment of "Mister Alec" that meant they did not even entertain the notion that HE could be their main suspect.
If a spouse of a murdered spouse has been nearby the murders scene (opportunity) by default he or she will be a "person of interest". Even if they were not near they will be asked for an alibi and that will be scutinized. No need to offend a person that was just traumatized but if a spouse "finds" killed family members and / or the other spouse ... unfortunately often it turns out that it wasnt't evil strangers that did the killing.
This is different from crimes of passion, where one family member kills the other in a rage, and the situation is clear, and police often will get an immediate confession. No FBI expertise needed for that.
SLED should have realized that they were out of their league. FBI would have picked up the red flags immediately. No way they would have handed over the house to him next day. No way they would have allowed many many visitors trampling all over the crime scene during night.
Lawyers their spouses, familie all felt obliged to race to Alex' side. So they wandered around, and later in the night they were even SENT into the house. They ended up in the kitchen and dining area. Cleaned away food from the stove into the kitchen. of course their DNA everywhere.
it was a wet day. IF there had been footprints or tyre marks from the alleged outside killers - they would have destroyed that evidence.
Never mind that no one could know if the evil killers were still lurking nearby or had been forced to hide somewhere.
Interestingly the lawyers (friends and collegues of Alex Murdaugh) did have some apprehensions of how the police handled it, they deal with civil lawsuits or maybe tax affairs, but even a lay person that had watched a little TV could see how police failed to secure the scene. But the social pressure to be seen there as support - even though they could do nothing - was stronger than commons sense. Not that the lawyers could have forced police to do the most basic things.
@@SS11660 It was the filming of Paul (unforeseeable in the murderous plans of AM) that helped most to get his murderous father convicted. w/o that and w/o the phone and car data, the prosecution would have lost the case. The kennel footage was super important + the phone conversation with a friend that waited for Paul to finish shooting a better video to send it to him, so that a vet could look at the problem the dog had with the sore spot on his tail.
Paul never got around to finishing that dog video, let alone sending it, but he had created footage (only on his phone that made clear that Alex was at the scene mere 4 minutes before the shootings started. (it was also lucky that his father was too stupid to dispose of the phone).
His friend waited for the video to come within minutes, meanwhile Paul and then Maggie were shot.
That is why investigators could be so sure when they had been murdered.
Paul stood before the kennel, I think Alex only saw his back, saw or herd him on the phone engaged in a conversation with a friend, then ending the call, but did not fully realize that he already recorded (and recorded the voice of his father as well).
It was also lucky that the idiot denied so long that he was there - he denied it because that messed up his narrative and the timeline that would give him an alibi. It was pure luck that he was not smart enough to take the phone immediately from Paul (after son and mother were dead), take out battery and sim card and hide it in a provisory spot.
He relied on it that incompetent and submissive police would give him plenty of time to hide and remove evidence - and he was right. Had he taken the phone, AM likely would have gotten away with murder.
His personal phone that AM had on him while in the kennel, during the clean up and then during the drive to his mother, the stay and back, and car GPS data were also contradicting his story, but the kennel video and the testimony of the friend waiting for a good video was more tangible and touching. If AM had left his phone in the house and had driven over in a vintage car and if he would have been smart enough to dispose correctly of both phones (like he did a good job with the weapons) - he would have gotten away with murder.
The SLED investigation and their securing of the scene (or lack thereof) was extremely poorly done. They could not mess up phone data, the providers have the data, and the specialists analysed it. And Paul had the most important evidence on his phone. That and the stupidity of his father made the conviction possible. If the case had depended on SLED .... oh dar.
Also the video from the early evening that showed that AM must have changed clothes when he met police the first time (after the murder). The housekeeper that was adament that she knew he had worn the blue-greenish shirt (she had fixed his collar the morning before). She was sure she had not washed it and had never seen it again. AM did try to nudge / coerce her into changing her testimony after some months. This conversation - out of the blue for her - rattled her so much, that she called her brother who works for the police.
To a degree the testimony of the worker contributed to the many things that did not add up with AM's narrative. That worker was OCD about how to store away the hose in the kennel area and how to be careful about the foundation of the building and to avoid puddles at certain places when HE did the daily routine of rinsing the kennel area. He knew immediately that someone had used the hose after him - in the time between 4.30 pm and the next morning, when he was called over.
Police was too incompetent to thoroughly search for tiny rests of tissue and blood in the drains, they must have been there.
But he was such a good witness, and believeable in his strict adherence to the routines that it was clear - "someone" had done a rinsedown in that area. The hypothetical murders ? (there is no reason why Paul, Alex, or Maggie would have done it, and as we know from their phone data they all arrived later. 6 pm, 7 pm ... so when would they have used the hose and why ? The hired a worker for keeping the area clean for the dogs (and to feed them and the chickens).
But if the killers did not want to enter their vehicles with bloody shoes - why did they take time out of their day to hang up the hose again ? (but in a sloppy manner so the worker noticed immediately that this was not at all how he hangs up the hose, no water drained out, nozzle not in the right position, etc. And after his routine cleaning the puddles would have dried up before night, even in winter. And they were in the wrong places anywhere.
This only made sense if Alex had rinsed off cover, shoes, but did not want to draw attention to that. Because police would find it doubtful that outside killers would even bother to clean themselves. And certainly they would not delay their flight to hang up the hose, not even in a sloppy manner.
They would likely run to their car (with clean or bloody shoes) that they had parked in some distance (hidden in the forest - parking at the house would also mess with AM's narrative for several reasons ). They would jump out of garments and shoes, throw all into a bag, change and only then get into the vehicle. Skillful killers would have worn gloves during the shootings, protective clothes, head covers, and maybe they would even operate with a stolen vehicle so it would not matter if they left traces of DNA, blood and tissue of their victims in the car.
Alex on the other hand had to race back into the house to shower before he enacted his alibi narrative (visit at mothers house). He could not leave even small traces of tissue or blood in the house (and the shooting was messy, lots of body tissue splattering around) so a precleaning was very important.
I even think that AM might have given the dog the sore spot, so he could lure dog lovers Maggie and Paul to the kennel area. Where he could kill them and then preclean himself. he knew what wounds and mess those high-powered weapons create (they were also used for hog hunting).
Love these two amazing journalists. Been listing to Murdaugh Murders Podcast for a year now. Hope they get credit where credit is due for keeping this crazy story in the SUNLIGHT. 💛❤🧡🌞🧡❤💛
They won’t because others stole and published their work. Most people don’t know and assume it is Netflix .
Cups up!
Murdaugh Murder Podcast is so well done. I discovered it on UA-cam about a month or so ago.
Thank you for giving these two women credit! Four plus years reporting on the Murdaugh family!!!! Their real reporting helped keep this case alive!!!!!!!
With true journalism being an endangered species, these ladies are a breath of fresh air! Credible and committed to evidence based reporting. Thanks Mandy and Liz for you're very enthusiastic and entertaining hard work.
These women are heroes in my book. Thank you Katie for choosing to interview them.
Way to go Mandy and Liz !!!!!! You both were so brave and you worked tirelessly to help bring about justice. So proud of you both and we will never forget that you ladies were such a huge part of the reason that Alex Murdaugh was finally brought down !!! #MurdaughMurdersPodcast
Me too!!!
I want the next episode!!!❤
They cracked open the 100 year old Murdaugh Corruption Spell, brought a ray of Sunlight to dispel the dense and swirling fog of deception and unspoken grief. Time has come to clear the air for All to breath easy.
Mandy and Liz have their own UA-cam channel. It’s the Murdaugh Murders Podcast. Another great channel is Eric Alan.
And All his victims will continue to get Justice they deserve based on the coverage of these ladies.
I didn’t learn about their podcast until after the verdict. It’s fascinating! Even though I watched a fair amount of the trial and saw the Netflix documentary, listening to their well-documented research is blowing my socks off! So much backstory to be reported-it’s really connecting a lot of the dots for me. Well done 👏
88+, how far have you gotten? I even ordered the book Jack Pot because of these fabulous reporters!!!
I've watched all of Mandy's podcasts. It's such a treat that you're having her & Liz on. They deserve recognition for the work they've done.
Same. Found them and had to backtrack listened intently to all of them and, wow there is so much more to this saga.
I see a MOVIE in their future‼️ These two AMAZING journalists are finally getting the respect they deserve ‼️
Way to go, ladies! Great sleuthing and journalism!
These women have given us some amazing and reliable reporting. Thank you Mandy and Liz.
These two are AMAZING. Their insight and professionalism are unmatched.
I listened to their podcast and truly binged to catch up. They had the best and most accurate reporting and KUDOS TO THEM!! Nice to see journalism with integrity, always. Thanks so much for putting yourselves out there, ladies!
Mandy and Liz have demonstrated excellence and integrity in their investigative reporting on the Murdaugh Family! I have been so impressed by the depth of research they've done, always "Bringing the Receipts" with FOIA documents and source development. Armed with facts, they shine a spotlight into the darkness and ask the hard questions....which no one else has had the courage to do before them. I am thrilled that Katie recognized their outstanding work!
THANK YOU KATIE FOR DOING THE INTERVIEW. AND THANKS TO THESE TWO WOMEN FOR BEING SO BRAVE.
For anyone who is just popping in, Mandy was the one who figured out that there was poison in the soup. She did a lot of research and was threatened etc. but would not be deterred. Everything that she reported over the years has been found true. She was joined by Liz and the two of them took a run at A.M. These brave women.. I want to send my deepest thanks.😳
Their UA-cam channel is great. It’s Murdaugh Murders Podcast.
What poisoned soup?
@@soniagordon2799 "Poison in the soup" is an expression that means that something nefarious is going on.😊
@@camillemayers103 thanks a mill. Never heard the expression before!😊
@@soniagordon2799Neither had I and I was about to ask , whose soup .
“People like to be heroes, and our job is to show them how they can be”
✨ Brilliant ✨
Liz, you two ladies are my hero’s, and because of you gals I feel a renewed hopefulness for society.
Thank you Mandy & Liz and all the other women who took down this man
Brave, intelligent and tenacious are just a few words to describe these young women.
I think Alex had suppressed anger towards Paul for boat wreck because it was bringing his crimes to light. He even said in one of his interviews w/police he said " whoever did this hated Paul." And he said to Marian " whoever did this planned it a long time."
Agreed
Hi Vicki. Best comment ever. Thanks 👍
Yes and it was him the whole time.
Vicki Gray...thank you. I knew someone stated that AM said "whoever did this hated Paul ". I wasn't sure who stated that AM had said "whoever did this planned it a long time."....thank you for bringing these to "LIGHT". I am just puzzled as to why the whole statement was not mentioned by the Prosecution again.
I think by referring to Paul by his childhood nickname “PaPa”, he was showing that he loved his young son but killed the older teenager who was causing his downfall!
Thank you for this excellent interview. These two brave, determined women have shown how it's done. They deserve more appreciation.
Thank you ladies for your " dog with a bone" mentality. You wouldn't let it go and we're all thankful for you. It would be easy to feel intimidated and scared of reporting on this family. We wish you continued success ☺
Thank you to these ladies! I've been following their reporting since the beginning of this tragedy. They both did an excellent job. Impeccable research. These ladies put themselves at risk in order to gather FACTS. I am SO Proud of them.❤
Anyone watching the trial could see that he was almost surrounded by strong, clear-thinking women. Women who undoubtedly watched him and his type get away with everything forever. They were brilliant in their testimony.
Well said, Mark. It was so satisfying to witness.
Definitely - all the women in his office and those who cared for his property and family - wow, a bunch of strong, well-spoken, very intuitive women!
The fact that so many intelligent, strong women helped take Alex down is, for me, the ‘icing on the cake’ of this whole trial. I don’t think he had any regard for those women AT ALL -- or any women, for that matter. He must have been stunned to learn everything they knew about him and his misdeeds. That’s just… *chef’s kiss*
@@buddyzpal he only cared about and loved one person, himself!
I wonder if he murdered them because of his father’s probate when he passed. Did Alex’s dad set up a trust that went to his grandchildren and if Paul died, the money would go to Alex? I know it sounds convoluted, but trusts can be set up in a way that works like that. 🧐
Thank you Mandy and Liz! I subscribed and have followed you all regularly throughout this trial. You did such a great job investigating this very sick family and their many victims. Thank you for being there to share it with us along the way. God bless you both
Huge that people can now maybe feel more open to share about Murdaugh nightmares.., hopefully more information will be forth coming for Stephen Smith & his mysterious death .
That’s what I’m hoping as well. The chokehold on this town is over. It’s safe to come forward.
Justice for Stephen and Gloria 🙏
The easiest way would do what everyone is already doing to tear a family completely apart just because of the name Murdough and put it all on Paul who can't defend himself from the grave to close all the pending legal cases. It seems to be a going trend for people of today is to bring down those who have worked hard in building a legacy that others can only wish for but don't want to put the effort into it, much easier to just tear them apart piece by piece. Just let those who really murdered Paul and Maggie sail away into the sunset. The ones who know the truth I hope it keeps them awake at night unable to get rid of the ghosts that will haunt them until they confess or die letting the devil win more souls.
Buster is deeply involved with his Dad, can't wait for them to topple him.
I would be so overwhelmed to kind out more on the Murdaugh family. Alex I believe has done alot of killings. People were afraid of him, but now they can whisper who did this or Alex done that. Or was it Paul Alex prolly put him up to it. Or Buster may have had a hand in it. Stephen would never guess Buster running him over.
Thank you for your wonderful informative show. I am 83 yrs and you have always been the very best and watched you previous shows and interviews.
AM was the boy who cried wolf!!! From Waterbury Vermont
Bravo Mandy and Liz! I’ve been following your reports throughout the trial and am incredibly impressed with the depth of your research, your integrity, your determination to speak up for justice and for your bravery and perseverance! Well done!,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏🇨🇦
Fascinating interview. Brave girls and I have so much admiration for them. Thank you!
I was totally shocked that the verdict came back in 3 hours. I just thought it would be days. Shocked he was found guilty. They got it right. Love these ladies. Been listening to Liz & Mandy from the beginning,
Thank you for acknowledging the long hours and unbelievable dedication of these two women who put their heart and souls into bringing injustice into the sunlight. It is about time that the powerful and privileged drink from the same cup of justice. ☀️ ☕️ ❤
You are both incredibly brave! All reporters should have your guts and the ability to truthfully report facts! Keep on going and stay safe ❤
Been listening to MMP for months now. You ladies are awesome. Kudos to you both for your tenacity and bravery!
What a great interview! I was impressed with Katie's knowledge of the case and her questions were on point. Both Mandy & Liz deserve an award for breaking this story and sticking to it, especially when they received a lot of push back and threats. Congratulations on your success ladies!
These women need to write a book.❤
..and stop speaking. The vocal fry is like nails on a chalkboard. You can tell that on the podcast Mandy's gotten a lot of sht over it because she's clearly tried to change it in the later episodes....but MAN, it's too jarring to listen to. I've subscribed and unsubscribed so many times throughout this saga - I want the awesome information they've uncovered but damn, it's more jarring than listening to AM say "Paw-Paw" all throughout his testimony. Doing an impromptu on-camera interview is probably the worst thing Mandy can do for her career. She needs help getting rid of it from a speech therapist it's so bad.
I feel like they probably will.
@@estimatedeyes Sometimes, when I can’t understand what people are saying, I turn on the closed captions and read them, and it really helps me.
@@estimatedeyes I've listened to the podcast for weeks and not for one second did I ever think their was anything wrong or unusual about her voice.
@@bobbiemooser7417 It has nothing to do with understanding the information - the trouble is that it's a podcast - a listening medium without CC - and her vocal fry is so jarring that it drowns out the information that she's trying to tell. Listen to Katie Couric's voice in comparison. Listen to how she ends her sentences compared to Mandy. She's def. has had a vocal coach in the past and all I'm saying that if Mandy wants to further her speaking career she should get in with a good speech therapist to cure her of that awful impediment.
The jury got it right! Compelled to watch this trial daily and glad i did - so sad, but so thankful this man was brought to justice. Thanks ladies for your part in bringing things to light.
After the verdict was correctly read the judge thanked the jury and recommended them for having weighed the evidence (circumstancial and otherwise) CORRECTLY. He fully agreed with their assessment.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEIR PODCAST !!!!!!’ I learned so much new information that wasn’t covered in other you tube channels. They connected sooooo many dots by the extra information and in depth research!!! You go girls !!!
Thank you, ladies - - it is good to know that journalism is not dead!😊
So beyond grateful that a cup justice has been served! Love these 2, and I admire their courage, incredible dedication, intellect, intuition, and compassion. Huge shoutouts to Eric Bland too! Let’s hope that now, the mysteries surrounding Stephen Smith and Gloria Satterfield will also be solved.
I live in a small town in the UK, totally understand those who have power and the rest of us. Liz and Mandy, I watched your pod casts for a full day, just two weeks ago as you had me hooked. Your work reminded me of good old fashioned journalism. Looking forward to the "prison tapes" now the trial is over. Mr Murdaugh won't be able to help himself, as his entitlement is engraved into his every fibre. Thank you.
We have enough “Trumps” in the world who always make waves to be in the news. So A big no to Murdaugh “prison tapes”.
I also look forward to hearing more prison calls now that he's moved into the big boy prison as a convicted murderer. Is he still going to orchestrate additional asset moving and hiding of assets as he faces upcoming financial trials? Is he going to be talking at all about remorse? I'd love to hear him apologize to Buster for taking away his entire family.
I was wondering how much this exists around the world..what is the tipping point that creates an AM?
@@havanesemommom6912 Corrupt lawyers and their underlings. That is my belief.
No, no more spotlight on him from prison. He is in prison for life for the horrendous murders of his wife and son.
Been following Mandy and Liz since day one. Love how excited Mandy gets when she realizes Katie is actually interviewing her!!!
What a great interview. Kudos to these young women and their tenacity in this ongoing saga.
Thank you Katie for giving these ladies recognition they deserve. Been listening to the podcast for a year or more. Crazy that Mandy was so spot on early into the investigation!! Mandy you are greatly appreciate & congratulations on your relatively new wedding
These 2 young ladies will be on/have jobs/careers on a major network in the very near by future. I just started following this case about a month ago and found their channel and they have done some amazing work!!!! Thank u Mandy & Liz!!!!!!!!
Thank-you Mandy, Liz & David!!! So happy to see two of the best journalists EVER being interviewed by Katie Couric...I’ve so enjoyed your program on UTube...covering the day-to-day “goings-on” of the Murdaugh saga. Talented, young, curious & energetic, you guys have wonderful futures, & I CANNOT wait to join vicariously your next adventure into finding the truth!!! So proud of y’all!!!🙏. Alice Slaton Grant...Concord, NC
A movie within a movie- Mandy and Liz’s persistence is amazing.
Great JOB Ladies , thank you Katie for highlighting these brave women !!!
I love the look of joy these women have talking with a legend of reporting who made a pathway for them. They are fan-girling and I love it! Well done 👏👏
Mandy and Liz, have you considered a book? We need this in print with the timeline. LOVE the work you two have put in! Excellent job!❤
Mandy and Liz, God used you two to uncover these details that led to justice and light for the whole lowcountry!! He used you two even if you didn’t realize that! He has given y’all the gifts of skills to look deeper and bring justice to light! Thank you for your persistence and commitment to truth in all these situations!! My family has followed you both from the beginning of all this (even before your collaboration) and will continue in your future reporting! Many thanks from Upstate SC! ❤️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼✝️
These two smart women are super warriors!!! There are still so many facts that need to be explored and exposed. I can’t imagine how much pressure these two and their team were under even before Maggie and Paul were murdered. The “good ol boys” gang is tight , secretive and so powerful and they don’t like their secrets coming to light. I hope they are all very careful with their safety as I feel like there is so much more to this story and the more they uncover, the more they are seen as a threat to those involved in unscrupulous and illegal actions. I would really love to know how and why Alec was paying $50,000 a week to his cousin Eddie because there is no way Alec was consuming that many oxy’s and still be breathing. There is so much more to this all. I feel like this is just scratching the surface .
My pet theory is Alex used cousin Eddie as a bagman to distribute drugs and multiple the money he had stolen from his clients. In the wake of the boat accident Alex took the drug profits and stashed them overseas in a country without extradition. The missing funds discovered at his law firm threw a wrench in his plan and prompted the murders. The deaths were to buy time, so he could once again straighten out his account, because he couldn't retrieve the oversea funds immediately. Also he knew the sympathy generated by the deaths of his wife and son would get him removed from the lawsuit. He counted on friends in the legal community and law enforcement to make the witness tampering investigation either go away or stall. Giving him time to sell his US properties, before he disappeared. His plan might have worked if not for the video on Paul's phone.
These types grow like topsy, unless roundup applied to the weeds.
He was moving his money out of his name because of the boat accident. I wouldn’t be surprise if Eddie gave him back cash to bury on Mozelle’s 17,000 acreage. Plus off shore banks.
Alex was also heavily into drug smuggling. He used drug abuse as an excuse to put blame on that for his decisions.
I have been listening to their podcast from the beginning. They have been so dedicated in finding justice and the truth. Love them!
Thank God for you ladies for sharing this tragedy with the 🌎
These women are amazingly determined and brave; I have been glued to their podcast since discovering it in fall of 2021. Their quest for the truth, justice and support for those who’s voices and stories are skewed by much of the media and brushed under the rug by those with power and money, is beyond admirable.
Thank you for highlighting these amazing women and what they’ve accomplished this far…so excited to see what lies ahead in their quest for truth and Justice!
And, BTW, I cannot WAIT for the next MMP episode…hoping the intro begins with, “I now KNOW who killed Paul and Maggie…” 😊❤😊
Great work ladies. Powerful people often times have the police and top lawyers in their corner. Continue to research ask questions and seek the truth. One justice system for all.
I first heard your praises being sung by the comedienne, Kathleen Madigan, who is an admirer of Murdaugh Podcast. I was so happy that I located your podcast & you have a long-time fan in me. Please write a book of your observations, research techniques & how you made it through the many roadblocks you had to encounter over the last several years. Thank you for your dedication & thank you also to Katie Couric for showcasing this podcast.
It's going to be interesting as time goes on I think it's far more nefarious than we still know about
Thanks to this two young ladies. Underrated excellent journalism👏👏. I have been following this story for years. I first watched when Stephen's mum Sandy with her 'bunny tails' hairstyle holding a placcad on her own, asking passers-by for help finding her son's killer. People were mocking her and hurling insults. I cried so much that day and I started following the story checking whether Sandy would get justice. It has come a long way💔. Sandy is my hero! I hope the FBI cold cases team takes over Stephens case and get this culprit! Alex finally shot himself in the foot stealing from those who covered his ass for so long! Maybe he killed to pay a drug debt or the demon in him did it. Spoilt brat who never understood the meaning of working for a living. Buster is another emminent failure.
Perhaps Buster will do okay now that he does not have his father controlling and ordering around . He sounded very happy where he was working and very obviously did not want to be a lawyer as his father was pushing him to be . His uncle is close to him and will take care of him and his girlfriend has stuck by him . I do not believe that people should be accusing him of murdering Stephen just because of a rumour . Perhaps Alex had a liaison with him and had him removed .
@@BlackStump172I never thought about the possibility that Alec could have been the one around Stephen. I pray Stephens's mom gets closure.
Mandy and Liz should get an award for their investigative journalism concerning the Murdaughs and corruption.
Outstanding journalists!
Thank you Katie for recognizing these two brave ladies that have been covering this corruption for 4yrs , they were very brave , we are thankful they kept going and digging when no one else would.
Katie - it’s refreshing to see a celebrity who hasn’t ruined their face with plastic surgery. You look great
All of the victims had head trauma in these crimes. I find that odd, then Alec ended up also having a head injury when he planned his own shooting.
You bring up a very good point. In fact, I wonder if Alex actually killed his housekeeper, blamed it on the dogs and Maggie and Paul found her on the stairs. They may have assumed she "fell". Later on, Paul and Maggie realized Alex hit her in the head and would expose him. That was the real reason he killed Maggie and Paul.
Supposedly, Maggie didn't let the dogs in the house. They were outside dogs. Why would they be on the porch if not allowed in the house? Moselle is a big place. Plus, neither Maggie nor Paul sounded particularly surprised nor scared if they had just found the housekeeper down on the stairs with such a serious head wound.
..interesting..
@Elizabeth Brandon they had beds for certain dogs on the porch
Alex thought as a hunter. He first did disabling shots for Maggie and Paul to prevent their escape from a missed kill shot. Alex escaped his kill shot, didn't he? An attempt he planned.
👍🏽 YES , I took note as well,
I so admire Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell and have followed them from the beginning. They stood up for truth and transparency (sunlight!) and felled a blow against corruption everywhere, let alone the very concrete benefit to the victims in these labyrinthine cases. Thank you for interviewing them. Everyone should follow them, because I'm sure more truth-telling is to come.
Because of the video, Paul showed the world who his killer was before he was killed. Justice was served.
I wish Paul would of had video going when Alex was shooting at him.
@@debijo5288 see that's what gets me. He could easily have left and then two guys walk out of the woods. I mean why would he be carrying 2 guns?
@scott hoskins To make it look like 2 different people were the shooter's. But he used his own guns to do it.
Hi, can you please explain to me what the video does to the case? Was this video taken during the murder?
@Brown eyes Paul was talking to his buddy about his dog's tail at the kennels; his buddy told him to video it and send it to him, while Paul was videoin you could hear Alex in the back ground. Alex told Everybody he wasn't down there at all. Also earlier Alex n Paul were looking at the trees one kept falling over Paul was laughing at his dad trying to get it to stand up. Alex was wearing the clothes he killed them in. The clothes have never showed up. Alex got rid of them and the guns. The video of dog 3 minutes later Paul and Maggie were shot to death.
You always know someone's guilty by pretending to cry in front of the camera or witnesses, but there are never tears. I think it was Maggie that had said Alex was there when the housekeeper "fell", but a male employee (groundskeeper?) said he was not there. I questioned that. I felt it was Alex that killed her from the get-go, especially regarding the lawsuit. It was very odd that after the boat accident the family immediately hauled the boat off. The crime scene was contaminated. No investigation, attempts were made to throw another boy under the bus, immediately tried to manipulate the injured while in the hospital as a self-proclaimed attorney representing them. No care whatsoever about the missing girl. Paul was never handcuffed, arrested or spent time in jail despite what all the kids were telling the officers. The police didn't even bother to notify the missing girl's family. Also Alex's brother saying he cleaned up the crime scene of Paul and Maggie because he felt he owed that to Paul. Wth? And not Maggie, just Paul. No family personally does that. Once again crime scene contaminated and evidence "cleaned up". I feel there's suspicious involvement with Alex's brothers as well that need to be looked into. I commend you two ladies, but I also worry for you. I know what these good ol boys are like and bringing light to their involvement, their turning their heads, their protecting the Murdaugh's and contaminating crime scenes can be dangerous. I feel this could go on for a long time to draw this all out and save this town, but it would take outside law enforcement to come in to do so and prosecute those involved in illegal behavior.
Excellent summary! ✌️
As for cleaning up the crime scene, I’d recommend listening to Emily D Baker’s analysis. She points out that was definitely a failing of law enforcement for not insisting on securing the scene and instead actively saying they were done with it. It’s possible he was doing it because he was involved somehow, but Emily points out his response actually was pretty normal and consistent with how people respond in that scenario. She points out once the crime scene techs leave there is zero support for the families in cleaning up the crime scene or knowing what to do next. Pretend for a minute that your best friend has a child die and you are there helping out and the police release the crime scene and it is time for your best friend to now go to sleep for the night. As traumatic as the situation is for you and your friend, assuming you believe it is a tragedia accident and your best friend is innocent might there be a part of you that feels maybe you can help your friend out by cleaning up the scene so they don’t have to go to bed after a very difficult, exhausting day knowing the room is covered in the blood, etc. from their precious child? I’m not saying he’s automatically innocent. He definitely could have been involved and covering things up. But the point is for him the cleaning up behavior isn’t strange at all and doesn’t necessarily automatically indicate guilt, either. If someone close to me died and I believe there is no criminal evidence remaining to collect, I also don’t think I would be able to sleep knowing parts of that person are still all over the room. It somehow feels disrespectful to the person who died. Cleaning feels like I’m tying up that lose end and am at least giving their spirit or memory a bit of peace and closure. Plus, it means when I walk in the room the next day I don’t have to immediately be confronted with a powerful reminder of the horror that happened in that room.
@@hollybigelow5337 I agree with you. I personally couldn't have cleaned up the remains. I would have contacted one of those businesses that do that, but that's just me. I did get a little suspicious that there were no tears on the brother's face, though, but maybe he wiped them before they came out of his eyes. One thing I found suspicious about Alex & his brother's tears is that they both wipe their nose and then wipe their eyes on the same spot on the tissue. I have never wiped my nose and then wiped my eyes on the same spot where presumably there is snot. That's just gross and makes me wonder.
@@robertarnsworth2464 I definitely agree about the suspiciousness ofthere a lot of things. Watching Alex, I never saw anything that even remotely looked like tears. The brother was a little harder for me to read. I'm honestly in a middle spot with him. I don't for sure trust him, but I don't for sure distrust him, either. I would call most of the signals from him mixed. If he is genuinely sad, there is something about him that is different than the average person. However, if he is genuinely guilty there's also something different about him from the typical sociopath. Alex comes off as the typical sociopath to me. I agree that I personally would really struggle to do the cleaning and would prefer to hire someone, but I'll also throw in that that pre-supposes I actually could get someone there in a timely manner to do the job. In this particular case I wouldn't expect there to be any worry about money, but you still might run into the problem that no one is in the office to take the call, or someone takes the call but can't fit you in for 3 days. And I could also see some people wanting to do it themselves rather than outsourcing that task as a final act of honor or love. That isn't me. I absolutely would have to hire someone else to take care of it. But if I had more strength and ability to face a cleaning task like that I absolutely could see it being me. That goes double if I am particularly rich because when I have the money to hire anyone to do anything for me it becomes even more meaningful when I am willing to take care of something myself. The gift of, "I'm not going to outsource this," might genuinely be the absolute biggest gift I could think of giving both to the surviving family members and to the deceased family members. For a fictional example, I could point to Harry Potter when Harry decides he needs to bury Dobby without using any magic. It certainly wouldn't be how I would personally approach that situation, either, but the emotional response still rings true to me, and the sacrifice comes off as being meaningful.
Mandy & Liz.....both you are so incredibly brave, courageous, & amazing. There are absolutely no words that are good enough to express the wonderful work you both have done. Truly inspiring & 2 individuals that deserve so much respect, appreciation, love & support. Thank you for bringing out the truth so that justice can be given to the many who have been terribly hurt by Alex, the family, & those that aided & abetted him.
Murdaugh Murder Podcast is the best. These women knocked it out of the park.
So glad Katie interviewed these two! You both deserve the credit!! Such an awesome interview
I’ve been dying for more episodes on the podcast! Please post soon!
60 Minutes needs to also interview these two journalists! I’m so proud of these two! Great job!