battery drain fix: lock the ignition. there's some complicated instructions in a user manual addendum. Lock: put ignition switch in lock position, make sure the blue ring is illuminated, hold the key fob bottom button (its got a key on it) until the little led on the key fob flashes red, then let go. Unlock: illuminate the blue ring again, hold the key button down until it flashes green, and let go. but i still have a battery charger cable attached to the battery and accessable from under the seat. its a PITA to install, but ya only have to do it once. i had to install a long seat to fix ergonomics, having my butt that close to handlebars was making my back hurt. sometimes my ignition get stuck in a broken state and the bike wont start, starter motor not given power. going through the whole lock and unlock process seems to fix it.
Pros: Cheap to run and maintain, reliable, chain guard, semi-automatic, led lights, tubeless tyres, MPG, keyless ignition, lightweight, protection from the fairing. Cons: Battery compartment, single seat, no USB. ::::::::::: I have 4 bikes and its always the cub that gets the most attention, it's fantastic.
Plastics hard to get off without breaking something, only one brand of tyre available, does not come with a rack, physically small for average humans, expensive compared to Indian and Chinese value, no kickstarter spoils the classic vibe
And most of the cons can be corrected with easy mods. Battery tender with USB adapter to not deal with the battery compartment and to charge my phone, though the battery is tiny, and a long seat to fit my fat ass on the cub
Currently riding a 2008 C50 and 1965 C65 and having owned a c70, I can understand the need for a keyless ignition as the standard ignition is so easy to bypass. I have been lusting after a C125 because I commute 75 miles a day on my Cub and the mileage and tubeless tires would make it ideal. A trickle charger would solve the dead battery problem. If there's anything wrong with the C125, I think not having a kickstarter and the fact that you cannot access your storage without a live battery, but the storage is where your screwdriver is which is what you need to access the battery panel.
Totally agree with your comments. I love my Cub. It's Five Stars! lol! Love the 132 MPG and it's ease of entry but hate that it didn't come with a side stand. I had to spend a bunch to get an Asian OEM 'upgrade' but with a kick stand, the bike is SOOO much better!
The Cub, in its various forms, is the best, that's number 1 selling vehicle ever produced on this planet, so Honda got it right and gets it done! The battery issue should be a no brainer, my son has the Trail 125 and it has a kick starter and some ,not all 125 Cubs, have a kick starter. Search well or order a kick start model.👍
Keyless ignition and battery housing are my only complaints to an otherwise amazing little machine. I've read that if you set the alarm and leave it it'll drain in a little under two weeks. Putting a trickle charger was a bit of a headache but took under an hour to do (I did lose a screw in the body but it'll work itself out).
I left my bike for over 8 months and had to change the battery. It took me 5 minuet’s tops. C’mon…. is that such a big deal? The positives in this bike way outweigh the negatives … Fact.😊
Also, a question for all. I took my cub for a state inspection and had to walk the inspector on how to start the bike (thanks e-ignition) when he got me my bike back, now the start button doesn’t beep anymore, like it’s on silent mode. Anyone have any ideas
Thanks for the vids, much appreciated. May I ask a practical question : is there any sort of helmet hook under the seat, so you can leave the helmet hanging on the bike while you’re running errands or whatever ? (Not talking about an under seat storage, has there obviously isn’t any). Can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks ! 🙏
@@Dailycozwerks Ok, thanks. Kinda strange that Honda didn’t think this through, considering their engineers’ usual attention to details. I guess we can circumvent that issue via mounting a cheap helmet lock on the handlebar, or maybe use one of these carabiner locks you can buy online (got one, kinda works).
@@twilliams6176 Thanks. I guess these are the tiny metal hooks next to the hinge. You can barely see them on photos. And as I can’t get my hands on any supercub round here without blindly buying it straight away, and wait for delivery… 🙄 true story … I am thus depending on you guys, and such reviews. Which I am thankful for, again.
Question: When I accelerate, I hear a "whining' noise coming from what appears to be the left side if the engine. It's sort of drowns out the sound of the motor. Is that "whining" sound normal?
I had similar thoughts about the ignition, and other areas which are only accessible with a working/running battery. i talked, and complain, about this with a bunch of buddies and during this i think i got it. and at the moment i think it is a very, very good system. because, if you think about the main target group for this bike, it makes more sense. because this is primary a commute bike, with the main target region of south east asia. not north america (yours) or europe (mine). considering this two things, it makes sense to have a relatively secured bike (electric ignition, keyless, accessibility like gas or tools area only with running battery/ignition) makes a lot of sense in a highly dense region, with a lot of interested eye. the only way to highjack it fast is to lift it up and move into a transporter. with the lock and the alarm system, you can't just hijack it on the street in a couple of seconds like other scooters, without taking out the battery first. And taking out the battery, or even disable it, takes a bit of time as everybody knows who has a super cub. You also can't simply steal gas from the tank, because you can't access it so easy during a drive/run by. And as it was (is?) the most sold motorcycle in the world, having a lot of similar looking ones around on the same parking space (again, target region is south east asia aka motorcycle/scooter-heaven), it's easier to find yours in the parking lot with a beeper ^^.
Nope! We Asian riders don't like the keyless ignition either. We usually lock the new bikes/scooters with the U-locks that are given as a gift along with new bikes by the bike shopkeepers and trying to lock the new bikes attached to fences or light poles to prevent them from moving.
I liked my metropolitan but I live in dirt roads area and dust, gravel, etc hit the back at the muffler and it would affect the motor. I'm waiting for the Trail or Yamaha PG1 if it comes because of muffler height.
I'd agree re the nightmare battery access. But on the positive side this encourages you to ride your supercub every single day to keep the battery charged... 😊
Battery compartment is indeed a nightmare. I don't use the plastic battery cover. (not the red cover you show, but rather the one ON the battery) I just shove a wash cloth in there to keep the battery to jiggling around. There's NO way I'd be able to put that battery cover back on.
@@Dailycozwerks I was watching a video of people in London having their Royal Enfield stolen. They smash the display where the turnkey is, and just conect wires.it starts right up. The police call it joyriding. The thieves they end up destroying the bikes riding them through fields and crashing over and over. I think the super cup is impossible to start without the fob or the little backup cards that slide in. I like that you always try to put a positive light on things and have a happy attitude. I hope your mom is doing great. Thanks for all the videos.
You don't need USB port for short circuit in rain showers cuz most USB port on bikes are at odd locations. Just bring along a portable power bank in your pocket would do.
You're two minutes in and I still haven't heard a like or dislike. I'm 73 years old and don't have any more time left to waste. Hi from me to your mom.
You've lived 3/4 of a century and still don't understand that nobody wants to read your negative comments... Please grow up while you still have time...
@@tigonridge ... and I say it's a false dichotomy. Honda could easily make a lightweight, nimble, reliable 250cc Super Cub. It may cost slightly more the 4k but at least riders will have greater choice.
@@davidhunternyc1If it's easy, it would've been done already. Powerful, large engines require stronger, larger frames for stability. They need larger transmissions to go with, which altogether require larger suspension. It's not as simple as putting something powerful into a tiny, light package. That's a fool's errand. Many car manufacturers have tried it, and ended up compromising in one big way or another, e.g. European manufacturers with their horribly expensive (to buy AND own) and unreliable vehicles, with low life expectancy. It's only an illusion of "greater choice."
battery drain fix: lock the ignition. there's some complicated instructions in a user manual addendum.
Lock: put ignition switch in lock position, make sure the blue ring is illuminated, hold the key fob bottom button (its got a key on it) until the little led on the key fob flashes red, then let go.
Unlock: illuminate the blue ring again, hold the key button down until it flashes green, and let go.
but i still have a battery charger cable attached to the battery and accessable from under the seat. its a PITA to install, but ya only have to do it once.
i had to install a long seat to fix ergonomics, having my butt that close to handlebars was making my back hurt. sometimes my ignition get stuck in a broken state and the bike wont start, starter motor not given power. going through the whole lock and unlock process seems to fix it.
This disables the alarm so the the bike isn't constantly searching for the fob hence draining the battery?
Pros: Cheap to run and maintain, reliable, chain guard, semi-automatic, led lights, tubeless tyres, MPG, keyless ignition, lightweight, protection from the fairing. Cons: Battery compartment, single seat, no USB. ::::::::::: I have 4 bikes and its always the cub that gets the most attention, it's fantastic.
Plastics hard to get off without breaking something, only one brand of tyre available, does not come with a rack, physically small for average humans, expensive compared to Indian and Chinese value, no kickstarter spoils the classic vibe
And most of the cons can be corrected with easy mods. Battery tender with USB adapter to not deal with the battery compartment and to charge my phone, though the battery is tiny, and a long seat to fit my fat ass on the cub
Trail 125
Question of the year in 2024:Why dont all bikes come from factory with a trickle charger plug-in? The Noble Peace Prize prize will be awarded!
Currently riding a 2008 C50 and 1965 C65 and having owned a c70, I can understand the need for a keyless ignition as the standard ignition is so easy to bypass. I have been lusting after a C125 because I commute 75 miles a day on my Cub and the mileage and tubeless tires would make it ideal.
A trickle charger would solve the dead battery problem.
If there's anything wrong with the C125, I think not having a kickstarter and the fact that you cannot access your storage without a live battery, but the storage is where your screwdriver is which is what you need to access the battery panel.
Great advice about pros and cons!
Totally agree with your comments. I love my Cub. It's Five Stars! lol! Love the 132 MPG and it's ease of entry but hate that it didn't come with a side stand. I had to spend a bunch to get an Asian OEM 'upgrade' but with a kick stand, the bike is SOOO much better!
The Cub, in its various forms, is the best, that's number 1 selling vehicle ever produced on this planet, so Honda got it right and gets it done! The battery issue should be a no brainer, my son has the Trail 125 and it has a kick starter and some ,not all 125 Cubs, have a kick starter. Search well or order a kick start model.👍
Keyless ignition and battery housing are my only complaints to an otherwise amazing little machine. I've read that if you set the alarm and leave it it'll drain in a little under two weeks. Putting a trickle charger was a bit of a headache but took under an hour to do (I did lose a screw in the body but it'll work itself out).
I left my bike for over 8 months and had to change the battery. It took me 5 minuet’s tops. C’mon…. is that such a big deal? The positives in this bike way outweigh the negatives … Fact.😊
How'd ya charge it
Also, a question for all. I took my cub for a state inspection and had to walk the inspector on how to start the bike (thanks e-ignition) when he got me my bike back, now the start button doesn’t beep anymore, like it’s on silent mode. Anyone have any ideas
Thanks for the vids, much appreciated. May I ask a practical question : is there any sort of helmet hook under the seat, so you can leave the helmet hanging on the bike while you’re running errands or whatever ? (Not talking about an under seat storage, has there obviously isn’t any). Can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks ! 🙏
Sadly, there is not. A rack and trunk is likely the best solution in that regard, albeit an expensive solution.
@@Dailycozwerks Ok, thanks. Kinda strange that Honda didn’t think this through, considering their engineers’ usual attention to details. I guess we can circumvent that issue via mounting a cheap helmet lock on the handlebar, or maybe use one of these carabiner locks you can buy online (got one, kinda works).
I think there is a hook of sorts on all Honda seats that flip up
There is two helmet hooks under the seat.
@@twilliams6176 Thanks. I guess these are the tiny metal hooks next to the hinge. You can barely see them on photos. And as I can’t get my hands on any supercub round here without blindly buying it straight away, and wait for delivery… 🙄 true story … I am thus depending on you guys, and such reviews. Which I am thankful for, again.
Question: When I accelerate, I hear a "whining' noise coming from what appears to be the left side if the engine. It's sort of drowns out the sound of the motor. Is that "whining" sound normal?
Mine both make a similar noise with no issue. I just assumed it had to do with the auto clutch.
@@Dailycozwerks Okay, I suppose it's not an issue. I was just expecting to hear the "ROAR" of the "massive engine" instead. HaHa!
How often do you check the chain for lubrication and adjustment? In time the chain will stretch and adjustment is needed, correct?
Every 500 miles is typically ideal. It may not need adjustment every time, but it will benefit from a cleaning and some lubrication.
@@Dailycozwerks Thanks! I'm looking to buy a Honda Sup Cub here in Phoenix, Arizona
Try not to race the engine from standstill will keep your chain from stretching.
I had similar thoughts about the ignition, and other areas which are only accessible with a working/running battery. i talked, and complain, about this with a bunch of buddies and during this i think i got it. and at the moment i think it is a very, very good system. because, if you think about the main target group for this bike, it makes more sense.
because this is primary a commute bike, with the main target region of south east asia. not north america (yours) or europe (mine).
considering this two things, it makes sense to have a relatively secured bike (electric ignition, keyless, accessibility like gas or tools area only with running battery/ignition) makes a lot of sense in a highly dense region, with a lot of interested eye.
the only way to highjack it fast is to lift it up and move into a transporter. with the lock and the alarm system, you can't just hijack it on the street in a couple of seconds like other scooters, without taking out the battery first.
And taking out the battery, or even disable it, takes a bit of time as everybody knows who has a super cub.
You also can't simply steal gas from the tank, because you can't access it so easy during a drive/run by.
And as it was (is?) the most sold motorcycle in the world, having a lot of similar looking ones around on the same parking space (again, target region is south east asia aka motorcycle/scooter-heaven), it's easier to find yours in the parking lot with a beeper ^^.
Nope!
We Asian riders don't like the keyless ignition either. We usually lock the new bikes/scooters with the U-locks that are given as a gift along with new bikes by the bike shopkeepers and trying to lock the new bikes attached to fences or light poles to prevent them from moving.
Cab you get a rear luggage rack for it?
yes, lots of aftermarket parts available
I do have to say that the battery problem is a big deal.@@aaronfowler7375
You nailed it with the battery access. Sucks 🐴. Took me 2 You Tubes and an hour to install a new battery. Other than that, I love my Cub
I’m considering one with two seater for my wife and I. Anyone have experience using it with 2 riders?
I have a friend that does it often actually. He and his lady love it. Personally, I did a lot of 2 up on the Trail 125, but never on the Super Cub.
@@Dailycozwerks
The performance should be about the same with same engine.
Would one of those hand held jumpers help you for low battery?
Not really, since I would still need to access the difficult to reach battery.
Adding a Kickstarter would save you from all these troubles!
Does the Bike have Kick Start?
It does not 👎🏾
I hated changing the battery and installing the tender, but the miles on the cub make me forget all the pain.
Adding a Kickstarter would save you from all these troubles!
I liked my metropolitan but I live in dirt roads area and dust, gravel, etc hit the back at the muffler and it would affect the motor. I'm waiting for the Trail or Yamaha PG1 if it comes because of muffler height.
It is a good review, it's hard not to be biased.
Thanks for watching
I don't mind the keyless ignition at all (I have 2019 model). But yeah, battery access is terrible.
If Honda ever drops the Dax here in the US I'll trade up my Cub, that's the only one for me worth trading up on.
I have the dax and love it! You'll love it too!
I want the Dax baaad
I have the Dax, i am from Europe.. the Dax is the ultimate bike imo!
I'd agree re the nightmare battery access. But on the positive side this encourages you to ride your supercub every single day to keep the battery charged... 😊
Valid point haha. Thanks for watching!
Battery compartment is indeed a nightmare. I don't use the plastic battery cover. (not the red cover you show, but rather the one ON the battery) I just shove a wash cloth in there to keep the battery to jiggling around. There's NO way I'd be able to put that battery cover back on.
Adding a Kickstarter would save you from all these troubles!
It's a good bike. But ,it's for smaller people. It is surely a very good little bike. I got one. Ride it three times a week, beating L.A traffic.
I see you have a Breville espresso machine in your kitchen. 👍
This might be a reach. I think the keyless Ignition helps pervert theft.Thank you and happy trails.
You are probably right tbh
@@Dailycozwerks I was watching a video of people in London having their Royal Enfield stolen. They smash the display where the turnkey is, and just conect wires.it starts right up. The police call it joyriding. The thieves they end up destroying the bikes riding them through fields and crashing over and over. I think the super cup is impossible to start without the fob or the little backup cards that slide in. I like that you always try to put a positive light on things and have a happy attitude. I hope your mom is doing great. Thanks for all the videos.
A U-lock for motorcycles locking the wheel to fixtures such as fences and light poles are more effective!
Nice!
Thanks for watching!
No USB port for cell phone.
You don't need USB port for short circuit in rain showers cuz most USB port on bikes are at odd locations. Just bring along a portable power bank in your pocket would do.
You're two minutes in and I still haven't heard a like or dislike. I'm 73 years old and don't have any more time left to waste.
Hi from me to your mom.
You've lived 3/4 of a century and still don't understand that nobody wants to read your negative comments... Please grow up while you still have time...
I have one...Id definitely needs a 5th gear....It doesn't keep up more than 40mph it sounds like a washing machine....
There’s something wrong with it if it only does 40mph.
I goes 45mph on 2nd gear 😂😂😂
You've spent near 25% of the time raving on about nothing. Now get going.
Stop wasting everyones time with pointless comments Toni.
@@Dailycozwerks Did I hurt your feelings?
Why can't the Honda Super Cub be a 250cc? It's 2024. Elon Musk engineered reusable rockets. Just do it.
Because then it wouldn't be
@@tigonridge ... and I say it's a false dichotomy. Honda could easily make a lightweight, nimble, reliable 250cc Super Cub. It may cost slightly more the 4k but at least riders will have greater choice.
@@davidhunternyc1If it's easy, it would've been done already. Powerful, large engines require stronger, larger frames for stability. They need larger transmissions to go with, which altogether require larger suspension. It's not as simple as putting something powerful into a tiny, light package. That's a fool's errand. Many car manufacturers have tried it, and ended up compromising in one big way or another, e.g. European manufacturers with their horribly expensive (to buy AND own) and unreliable vehicles, with low life expectancy. It's only an illusion of "greater choice."