Leftist here. We'd like for this to happen to, but, liberals, the alliance has to mean more than just "you vote for the candidates we tell you, and then we immediately go back on even trying to pass progressive policies" And you if say that liberals don't do that, when's the last time you heard Joe Biden mention his public option? Exactly!
The bottom line is liberals need to cut off support for politicians whose priorities are maintaining a centrist status quo and taking money from billionaires
The coming years we need a coalition for damage control I feel many of the old gaurd are doing the nonsense you speak of many of them are 80 and 90 and needed to retire long ago they need to be voted out if they won't retire. To a degree even if things were functioning as they should that will still all require compromise to a degree.
He stopped talking about it because it became very clear that it was not going to pass with the margins in Congress, but he did cut a lot of pharmaceutical prices and get a number of progressive victories anyway. Still, what we need is a decisive victory.
@@unconventionalideas5683 Yes and making excuses is not how we get one! I swear don't you ever get tired of your party's motto being "there was nothing we could do"? How does that not frustrate you?
@@unconventionalideas5683You're thinking of the minimum wage increase, I'm sure. Biden never mentioned a public option after Obama won the primary for him, which pretty clearly means he never was going to do it in the first place.
He's trying to get off the algorithm of the contrarian left. His sole political stance seems to be distancing himself from Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand, and others. TYT was probably the proverbial straw.
I'm a leftist who used to participate in a sketchy Discord full of people whose only motivation for change was anger. They refused to work with liberals and eventually decided to switch from being a primarily antifascist group to an explicitly anarchist group, and I ended up leaving when I grew out of anarchism. I've been saying for months that if we want to defeat fascism we need to all ally-- liberals, progressives, leftists, and friendly libertarians. Someone like Kyle, who's a great speaker and an overall amicable guy, is perfect to put this message out there.
Liberals will always side with capital. They will choose the far-right over the far-left. "Meet me in the middle", they will say, before taking two more steps to the right.
The group had a real point. Liberals will always side with fascists, that's simply how it goes historic. Work with them if you can, usually Liberalscwill side with fascists.
@cegesh1459 If that's the attitude you guys take, you'll be trampled underfoot by the fascists you like to imagine yourself "bashing". Solidarity among all who oppose fascism is the only way we can survive this, period.
Anyone here who would rather have a dictatorship of the proletariat and abolish the bourgeoise from owning our entire economy and country, raise your hand!
I heard at the end that Klye is finally coming over to BlueSky, that's HUGE. BlueSky is currently at 26 million users. And it's really a social media oasis in a desert where you get to customize your own content feed instead of some corporate overlord forcing their algorithm on you.
just remember at the end of the day its still social media. It's better than every other platform but people have false expectations of what "peak" social media is - as I've observed being on the platform for 2 months after basically getting off all social media for mental health reasons. It's definitely the most positive experience I've had with social media and I've had it since 2006 when I got to make a facebook account because I transferred to a school that allowed it, but I'm not under any impression that it's anything more than the best of alot of bad options. There's a honeymoon period going on with it now, and I've met some genuinely decent people on there and had some good conversations, but Ive started to see the narcissistic complaining that all social media is prone to. People should be aiming to try to be more social rather than get better social media, it should be an appendix to ones social life rather than the primary space.
No, Bernie wanted economic equality. We liberals value freedom and equality under the law over economic equality. Different mindset, different philosophy, different ideology. Also, liberalism > leftism.
@Lib4life-t3n you think your side actually cares about freedom? 😂 The fact that you still think liberalism is better than leftism. Is why we can't have nice things
@Lib4life-t3n also leftisy this value freedom as well we actually value it more than liberal do. So your mindset is less for the working class cause f*** em see I wonder why Trump won the working class hmmmmmmmmmm I wonder why. 😂🤔
@Lib4life-t3n also do tweaks around the edges liberalism I don't actually care about the working class is why Trump keeps winning the working class you fools. Your philosophy opens the door for fascism.
@@tannermclaughlin5001 For clarification by liberal I mean the center-left version. The host said he's a classical liberal which empirically speaking is a fascistic ideology. The problem with you leftists is that you obviously reject empiricism (which is itself a liberal epistemology). Empirical data shows that liberal societies are the ONLY ones that are free. As per empirical data socialist countries like China, North Korea, USSR etc etc etc are/were authoritarian. Do you believe in data? The apparent answer is no. Using empirical data, prove to me that leftists actually care about freedom? You made THREE posts and in none of them you even mentioned human rights, women's rights and LGBT rights which are all center-left liberal inventions. Not only that, center-left liberals also fought for workers' rights. Leftists didn't even invent workers' rights that you pretend to care so much about. The working class voted for Trump bcos working class people are conservative. If you actually listen to them you would know that they hate trans people more than they want workers' rights and welfare. This again shows why your leftist class reductionist analysis is wrong. They didn't vote for Trump bcos the Dems have abandoned the working class, the working class abandoned the Dems bcos of LIBERAL idpol which they call Marxist wokeism just to give liberalism a bad name by association.
After reading through the Wikipedia article about liberalism, I have a much more nuamced view of liberalism and I agree that the liberal fundamentals (free speech, democracy, religious freedom,etc) are necessary for progress but we can't keep getting caught up in pushing free markets for corporations while limiting economic freedom for people. The left needs to push out neoliberalism from liberal ideology. Anticapitalist liberalism is a counter to fascism unlike laissez faire neoliberalism that only makes fascists more powerful.
"we can't keep getting caught up in pushing free markets for corporations while limiting economic freedom for people." What if I told you all of the limitations on personal economic freedoms have been pushed by unions and the socialist wing of the Democrats? It's true that in the past corporations on their own could and did all kinds of horrifically oppressive things, like company towns, but that has for the most part been outlawed. If that's where things stopped everything would have worked out, but then someone came along and started regulating companies to the point that only massive conglomerates that can afford to fight legal battles over every tiny little change could survive.
There are 100 million eligible voters who didn’t vote. What does it take to motivate five million of them to vote. For reference I saw two guys on the streets supporting Luigi who did not vote. We need a few core issues to run on and rally around. I would choose Medicare for all as one. To do that we need liberals to not cave to right wing framing on it.
The dems will only thrive if it once again becomes the party of labor. We need to go all in with the unions 100%. Liberal anti unionism needs to be a thing of the past.
What you do when you bend the knee to right wing framing on issues, is that not only you give them a point on the framing which is already wrong on the framing alone, but also you lose your own base instead of moving people to the booth to vote. You can't make people vote on republican light republicans won't vote for you. I see it in my own country, people don't want to vote for people that defend nothing. But i mean this is the never ending lesson real leftists not even talking far left, have to teach liberals on why fascism is a tool of the upper class to retain control and that you can't fight it with "i agree with those guyz!". Saddly for americans, Democrats learned nothing and they will offer another neoliberal idiot in 4 years.
They haven't learned. If you look at the principal method of electing leaders of the party, they elect after seniority, not value, knowledge, or talent. They are outdated and not interested in doing any renovation of the party.
Tough talk when almost half your social media pundits are paid shills or ideologically allied with Russia and China And many of your other figures like TYT, Jimmy Dore and etc Literally are right wings shills out for a right wing pay check/pay day...
I dare these guys to really show their alliance with the left by inviting people like Emma Vigeland, Sam Seder, or Matt from Left Reckoning, I dare yall
Speaking of the NRA, Adam Conover had a great video on how the NRA provides community for their members but there is nothing like that on the left. We need community member groups that provide identity and solidarity so it’s not just Democrats hounding you for donations every four years.
When I hear liberal I think of social democracy, keynes and fdr, because of the period known as new deal liberalism or embedded liberalism, how ever, now the term liberal means center to center right (neoliberal)
Thank you so much Kyle for your energy these past couple months. You're exactly the kind of person we need stepping up right now and you're really meeting the moment.
How to keep people engaged.... Well thank you Kyle and other online personalities for for the work you do. What everyone needs to remember is that it's only part of what needs to be done. The way to keep people engaged is to give us tangible action steps with measurable outcomes that at the same time bring us together face to face and help us build real world community. We need to channel our energies into running for local office, having house parties, going to trainings on voter persuasion, and going door to door. Things like starting the Justice Democrats and recruiting lots of candidates when they first started is one of the greatest things Kyle has done.
You have to deal with gerrymandering on a state level. Look up “voters not politicians”. They effectively ended gerrymandering in Michigan by direct ballot initiatives.
Destiney is a freak and anyone who lends him credence is a weirdo lol. Literally the most unlikable, perfectly average IQ guy cosplaying as an intellectual when he couldn’t finish college
We need left wing media to expand and Kyle is playing a key role in that project, so I actually prefer him to keep doing what he’s doing. Plus, since he’s had no filter, his opponents would have an easy time making attack ads with out of content clips of him
Of the UA-camrs in the political space, Kyle Kulinski is the one I resonate the most with. I don't agree with him on everything...but I agree with him a lot and he's stayed true to himself. He's not a grifter. This conversation was refreshing... especially when you compare it to TYT coddling the rights nutsack.
@@Effective_tool_of_Satan far left is wanting healthcare for all and for people to not starve on the streets apparently. I thought it was calling for the abolition of capitalism
Yeah, Kyle is definitely a leftist, but he’s pretty far right as a leftist. I love Kyle and support what he says 95% of the time, he is an ally, but the Overton window in the US is skewed far right when you take a few steps back and consider world history. I’m all for opportunistic leftism though, let’s see where we agree and let’s make some changes.
Dang, Micah has had some really, really great points in this conversation. I really look forward to another episode of this podcast. Edit, everyone had great points and I hope ya'll do at least one more follow up. Also, Micah, I hope you've heard this quote before "When the data and the anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually right. It’s usually not that the data is being miscollected. It’s usually that you’re not measuring the right thing. If you have a bunch of customers complaining about something, and at the same time your metrics look like they shouldn’t be complaining, you should doubt the metrics." ~ Jeffry Bezos.
Polling is relatively clear on voter ideology & it has been fairly consistent for decades. The US is about 40-45% conservative/right wing voters, 20% progressive to leftist voters, 20-25% liberal/moderate voters, & 5-10% unaffiliated, disinterested people who just vote based on their perception of the economy. If liberals & leftists don't vote together, conservatives would always win.
I love how many liberals are actually willing to discuss money in politics. It's not the common person who supports liberalism that is responsible for the greed and corruption of corporate Democrats. It is the political class and ultra wealthy that make liberalism so toxic. Leftists should be more supportive of liberals, not openly antagonistic. Common folks are still working class. Liberals tend to be well-informed and often well intentionned.
@@belkyhernandez8281 sorry, but they did. The total lack of class consciousness aside, liberals are also super racist and trans phobic, they just have the shame to try and mask it unlike the proud bigots of the right.
You two are probably not using the same definition of “liberal”. Since it has been bastardized so thoroughly by the right, it’s best to use other descriptors. Having said that, neo-liberals definitely gave the presidency to (he who shall not be named), primarily because their class economic priorities rhyme so much there is no significant difference.
Been a fan of Kyle for ages. As a social democrat alliances are great but serious systemic changes like campaign finance reform (among other changes) need to take place as well. America has become an oligarchy and that's not hyperbole. Just my observations from the outside looking in as I'm not American.
"America is an oligarchy" is very much an oversimplification. Special interests & groups that represent no one have more power than academics/scientists, which is bad, but there are more "keys to power" than there are in actual oligarchies like Russia
@@shadowyzephyr "Special interests & groups that represent no one-" Medicare for all is a special interest. Better healthcare for veterans is a special interest. Remember when Jon Stewart shamed congress into giving 911 first responders free healthcare? That was a textbook special interest. Higher farming subsidies so we can both keep food prices at world record lows and keep small farmers in business is a special interest. Moms against gun violence is a textbook special interest. Every single movement that has pushed to raise the minimum wage is a special interest. Every single time in the nations entire history that laws were enacted to restrict anti-union activity by corporations it was at the behest of a special interest group. The power of academics and scientists? You mean like the 90% of economists who believe we need to *lower* the federal minimum wage, ban rent control, and radically cut social spending to reduce the deficit? Or are you on the side of the openly anti-science special interests on those issues instead? People are weird. They don't even think through their own propaganda. "The problem with America is the special interest groups have too much power!" screams the union rep, who's sole job is to lobby the government against the advise of scientists on behalf of his special interest.
I think Trump knows that a lot of his base don’t know what asylum seekers are and might believe they’re insane asylum seekers. And even those who don’t think that, think asylum seekers are bad because they cost too much, and will find the double entendre funny.
This alliance between leftism and liberalism unfortunately won't get anywhere unless we finally address the 50-year old elephant in the room: Dog Whistle Politics. Ian Haney López's Race-Class Narrative provides the answer to this. You should try inviting him on.
To me the easiest way to get rid of gerrymandering is to just get rid of congressional districts and allow the voters of each individual state to select their representatives by proportional representation. Example: a state whose population gives it 10 seats in the house will have its seats divided depending on how many people vote for that party in that state. If it's a swing state that'd mean 4 or 5 seats for both the republican and the democrat, and maybe 1 seat for either/or the greens and the libertartians. If it's a lefty state, then 30% republicans would actually get 3 seats and an outright socialist party might get 1 seat in the house without the majority democrats being able to do anything about it, same for the reverse if the state leans conservative. Would break up the two-party system a bit too since at least some non-zero % of house members would be neither republicans nor democrats, and in a narrow house where neither side has a clear majority this would introduce the crazy radical incomprehensible idea of compromise and the need for maximum popular appeal to US politicians. Which is why they will fight to the death to keep something like this from being implemented, but if you want to permanently get rid of gerrymandering without leaving a way for bad actors to exploit it, then this is how I would fix it. Not at a national level for president or something, that'd do what conservatives always fear and make all politicans only care about the populated coasts of the country, but at the state level I really don't see the downsides of proportional representation. Republicans in California and Democrats in Nebraska would actually have a reason to vote during elections, since even if they know their party won't crack 50% every vote matters and could get their party one more representative in the house, which would increase turnout and engagement, which is good for a democracy period, so again, imho there really isn't any downside.
@@wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY That depends on the details. On the one hand, you can have it so that the parties running for seats in that state choose (by whatever means its members and leadership deem fair and reasonable) a list of candidates to publish so everyone can see who they'll be voting for, and on election day every voter simply fills in which of the available parties they want to vote for. If there's 10 seats up for grab each party will have 10 candidates named and if they win 60 percent of the vote then the first 6 people on that list get elected. Simple but yes you wouldn't be voting for individuals anymore. Alternatively, if you don't mind large ballots you can have all the candidates listed under each party on the ballot (this is what we do in the Netherlands, check out our huge ballots if you dare to) so you can specifically vote for a candidate representing a party if you want to, even if the party has but him or her at the bottom of the list. If the specific person you voted for didn't get enough votes then your vote counts towards that party in general like in the first example. That way you can still also campaign for an individual if you want to, on the understanding that it's also for the broader party if he or she doesn't reach the threshold to win a seat in their own right. Of course you can further add things like ranked choice voting and the like, but that gets a bit excessivly complicated in my opinion.
Apparently youtube took issue with my lengthy explanation about why you could still vote for individual candidates if the US adopted something like the dutch system on a state-by-state basis @wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY so I'm sorry but you'll have to look the details up yourself, but yes you can.
@@grandgibbon2071 Do the states or the national congress really not have the power to declare that gong forard seats for the house should be elected on a state-by-state basis of proportional representation? I'm not talking about changing the number of seats or the electoral requirements for either a voter, a candidate or a party, just specifically how the people of a state elect their national representatives. Is even that really set in stone constitutionally? You'd think either the states or the federal government could just change that using their legislative powers.
I think there is a misunderstanding of what "liberal" means. The vast majority of people in the US who are on the left are also liberals. These things are not mutually exclusive. You can be a left liberal, a progressive liberal, a centrist liberal, or a conservative liberal (though they tend to now call themselves "classic liberals." Bernie Sanders is a liberal. He's also on the center-left. If your policies align with something close to the New Deal or Social Democracy, you're a liberal. Chances are, if you are on the left and you're not a communist, you're a liberal. Also, there is no meaningful "far left" in the US. People like The Squad, Bernie, and AOC are center-left.
Liberalism is a capitalist ideology, leftism is anti-capitalist. There is just not a huge difference between a social democrat and a moderate leftist in terms of practical short-term prescriptions, because the next ten steps of progress in the USA are obvious to anyone with a brain AKA liberals and leftists.
That is not how most ppl use the term liberal most leftists see liberal as a slur damn near because all the establishment POS politicians like Pelosi and Shumer and Biden and Obama and Joe Mansion are liberal But yes the US is so right wing that internationally both are parties are considered right wing
I would say democratic socialism and anything left of that is outside of liberalism, as it's opposed to capitalism/market-based systems. Bernie supports some liberal policy, but I would probably classify him as a leftist if I had to pick one.
@@shadowyzephyrThis is why labels are difficult, but I'm thinking of liberalism as individual rights, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, and equality before the law. Liberalism usually includes the right to "private property" which I think most Democratic Socialists would still agree with including Sanders. But regardless, I suspect many people are just using "liberal" to differentiate themselves from neo-liberals or centrist Dems, while not being a socialist (democratic or otherwise). For example, Kyle calls himself a Social Democrat, not a Democratic Socialist and compared his politics to the Nordic model which is still a capitalist model.
I think RFK is the most dangerous pick. With him, there is a real a verry real possibility that this term will end the way the last one did, with a global pandemic.
Forget the end of his term, infectious disease experts are losing sleep over H5N1 being a few mutations away from sustained human to human transmission right this minute. I can't think of any other person alive whom I'd want to be in charge of public health less than RFK Jr. right now.
Kyle is SO correct about his policies, but the populism thing....meh. We need a Marxist analysis of these issues because the critiques hold up the strongest to this day.
Come on guys. Let´s not pretend as if right wing voters didn´t know where Trump´s contributiuons were comming from. His main donor was jumping around his stage for half of the time. Did voters care? Not so much. So transparency is good but at the end of the day show me one voter that cares where they got the money from and I`ll show you ten that don´t.
I like Kyles channel and I think he means well but at the end of the day this interview betrays a certain ignorance on his part of why socialists dislike liberals. Liberals are pro-capitalist, they believe the system is broken and it is possible for society to be functioning well with a more humanitarian breed of capitalism. Socialists, on the other hand, have read Marx and know that social democracy would be very difficult to achieve and impossible to sustain because, by nature, these forces contradict capitalism. We already saw this happen with FDR and the new deal era and what followed that-- neoliberalism. It isn't possible to reform capitalism in a long-term and sustainable way, it will always undo itself a la the ratchet effect. We need a new system entirely. It is a shame Kyle cannot see this. I wish he had a vaush style stream and engaged more with his audience so we could at least hear his response to these points. But he doesn't seem interested in that or any critiques of his viewpoint.
What's this alternative system and how is social democracy failing in other countries? I'm not clear on this sort of critique. All systems propose to have the answer but people have to buy in or nothing is ever going to work and stick.
@ transitional libertarian socialism followed by communism is the alternative system and when I say communism I mean it in its pure form ie a stateless and moneyless society. Social democracy is failing on other countries because as we speak it is being undone and more and more European countries are turning into the US. Give it like 50 years or less. We are witnessing the rise of fascism globally. The only reason European countries are more progressive and socially democratic now is BECAUSE they were neighboring the Soviet Union and needed to keep people loyal to their side and not lose people to the Soviets. Because they knew how popular it is among the people. Now that the Soviet Union is gone social democracy in Europe is unraveling and one day will disappear entirely. I recommend reading Das Kapital by Karl Marx if you’re unclear on why capitalism is bad for humanity and needs to be supplanted. Marx is extremely exhaustive in his work, this one in particular (all volumes of Capital that is) pretty much covers it all, and I don’t think you will have any questions left once you’ve finished it.
Name me a successful socialist country? You cant because non exist. Even 'communist' China eventually had to liberalize its economy and implement market reforms to boost competitiveness and innovation whilst Social democracy flourishes in most European countries. Empirically there is more evidence to support the sustainability and success of social democracy than full blown socialism. No system is ever perfect but social democracy is a much more viable and attainable path for a country such as the US.
I love Kyle but he's really wrong on the strategy about immigration. Changing public opinion on major issues in the span of a few months is basically impossible. Kamala did have the right strategy here, although it was never going to be enough to save her. Also if BBB passed, voters would have cared way more about the extra inflation than the extra paid family leave.
Libertarian and liberal are not interchangeable. I am liberal. Not libertarian. And I posit one cannot be liberal if adherence to a specific economic model is a precondition other than as it relates to human rights.
I keep saying we need our own Daily Wire. The right has done so well with their messaging and misinformation machine that we lost this election 10 years ago.
So many bad ideas for real problems. The solution to gerrymandering is simply to abolish distracting. Everyone's vote counts as cast, not gets flipped because 51% or whatever of other people in a district voted for someone else. While we are at it, we need to totally abolish the terrible electoral college. We need ranked choice voting so two parties can't dominate the upper ranks. For campaigning, we should have set times and places to put ads, debates, etc. that cost nothing. No other political ads allowed if X amount of time before election, like say 6 months or a year, not even subject ads. (like abortion or immigration etc) And more.
Of overturn business personhood, could it stop corp from funding? If individuals want to take from their personal pockets to donate then ok. The koch brother can donate, koch Inc cant
dems are just as corrupt as cons. they take money from the same donors and their interests dont fully align with the working class. they are the lesser of two evils sure but not the best choice.
I had lunch with a Trump supporter last year and we discussed politics and his comment to me was “you still believe in government?”, and I said yes. A lot of those on the right have just lost any hope in governments ability to make positive change and so they are fine destroying it.
Homes are 400k, brink of ww3, healthcare system is rigged, banned labeling gmo food, politicians making millions on wall st, a reality star is the president, media full on lies about things and gets sued for it, sorority sisters moderating presidential debates, anti religious Olympic ceremony, presidential assassination attempts, homelessness at all time highs, presidents kids are crack heads, experimental vaccine mandates…. The only way it’s gets worse is when everyone earning under 300k is homeless or on govt assistance. If you can make a better argument for how we are not approaching a “point of no return”, please humor me.
Black Lives Matter was the catalyst of the woke movement and in 4 years they haven’t done anything but make black peoples life more financially difficult. (Because everyone’s life is more financially difficult now). The real winners of the BLM movement is undoubtedly the trans community. And that’s your govt that did that. While giving handouts to illegals in the faces of people they promised to help.
I also forgot to mention massive pedo operations at the highest level of govt. Which has been a problem for a while, nothing new. Well except for Epstein. Funny how the govt swept that under the rug aye?
Lmfao settling out of court suggests you know your going to lose if it goes to court so you settled out of court to cut your loses hence you were going to lose!!!!!
The Kyle press tour really feeding families these past few weeks
We need Krystal to do OF
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Kyle really taking leadership recently, loved the conversation.
I mean he was the co-founder of the Justice Dems. He's no stranger to leadership.
Well said. I love how much he wasn't discouraged. It was just: 'well I was a bit too optimistic, but it doesn't matter, it's time to work harder'
Kyle is goated
The King of the Left 👑
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Leftist here. We'd like for this to happen to, but, liberals, the alliance has to mean more than just "you vote for the candidates we tell you, and then we immediately go back on even trying to pass progressive policies"
And you if say that liberals don't do that, when's the last time you heard Joe Biden mention his public option?
Exactly!
The bottom line is liberals need to cut off support for politicians whose priorities are maintaining a centrist status quo and taking money from billionaires
The coming years we need a coalition for damage control I feel many of the old gaurd are doing the nonsense you speak of many of them are 80 and 90 and needed to retire long ago they need to be voted out if they won't retire. To a degree even if things were functioning as they should that will still all require compromise to a degree.
He stopped talking about it because it became very clear that it was not going to pass with the margins in Congress, but he did cut a lot of pharmaceutical prices and get a number of progressive victories anyway. Still, what we need is a decisive victory.
@@unconventionalideas5683 Yes and making excuses is not how we get one!
I swear don't you ever get tired of your party's motto being "there was nothing we could do"?
How does that not frustrate you?
@@unconventionalideas5683You're thinking of the minimum wage increase, I'm sure. Biden never mentioned a public option after Obama won the primary for him, which pretty clearly means he never was going to do it in the first place.
Love that Kyle is going on a lot of dif channels recently 😊😊
Seems to be one of the few uniting the left
He's trying to get off the algorithm of the contrarian left. His sole political stance seems to be distancing himself from Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand, and others. TYT was probably the proverbial straw.
I'm a leftist who used to participate in a sketchy Discord full of people whose only motivation for change was anger. They refused to work with liberals and eventually decided to switch from being a primarily antifascist group to an explicitly anarchist group, and I ended up leaving when I grew out of anarchism. I've been saying for months that if we want to defeat fascism we need to all ally-- liberals, progressives, leftists, and friendly libertarians. Someone like Kyle, who's a great speaker and an overall amicable guy, is perfect to put this message out there.
Agreed. As the saying goes, voting is a chess move, not a valentine
Liberals will always side with capital. They will choose the far-right over the far-left.
"Meet me in the middle", they will say, before taking two more steps to the right.
The group had a real point.
Liberals will always side with fascists, that's simply how it goes historic.
Work with them if you can, usually Liberalscwill side with fascists.
@cegesh1459 If that's the attitude you guys take, you'll be trampled underfoot by the fascists you like to imagine yourself "bashing". Solidarity among all who oppose fascism is the only way we can survive this, period.
@UnmadeSophia They only pretend to oppose the far right until they're scratched.
Love Kyle doing his pod tour
new subscriber now!
Anyone here who would rather have a dictatorship of the proletariat and abolish the bourgeoise from owning our entire economy and country, raise your hand!
I heard at the end that Klye is finally coming over to BlueSky, that's HUGE.
BlueSky is currently at 26 million users.
And it's really a social media oasis in a desert where you get to customize your own content feed instead of some corporate overlord forcing their algorithm on you.
I wish you could scroll through video posts though. And you're only allowed to post one minute clips, which sucks. Not a bad platform though.
For now. That's what they all were until enough people were exposed to their content to concern the rulers.
just remember at the end of the day its still social media. It's better than every other platform but people have false expectations of what "peak" social media is - as I've observed being on the platform for 2 months after basically getting off all social media for mental health reasons.
It's definitely the most positive experience I've had with social media and I've had it since 2006 when I got to make a facebook account because I transferred to a school that allowed it, but I'm not under any impression that it's anything more than the best of alot of bad options. There's a honeymoon period going on with it now, and I've met some genuinely decent people on there and had some good conversations, but Ive started to see the narcissistic complaining that all social media is prone to.
People should be aiming to try to be more social rather than get better social media, it should be an appendix to ones social life rather than the primary space.
As a leftist it’s so fucking boring.
Are liberals finally waking up and realizing it should have been Bernie all along😂? Wtf took you people so fing long?
No, Bernie wanted economic equality. We liberals value freedom and equality under the law over economic equality. Different mindset, different philosophy, different ideology. Also, liberalism > leftism.
@Lib4life-t3n you think your side actually cares about freedom? 😂 The fact that you still think liberalism is better than leftism. Is why we can't have nice things
@Lib4life-t3n also leftisy this value freedom as well we actually value it more than liberal do. So your mindset is less for the working class cause f*** em see I wonder why Trump won the working class hmmmmmmmmmm I wonder why. 😂🤔
@Lib4life-t3n also do tweaks around the edges liberalism I don't actually care about the working class is why Trump keeps winning the working class you fools. Your philosophy opens the door for fascism.
@@tannermclaughlin5001 For clarification by liberal I mean the center-left version. The host said he's a classical liberal which empirically speaking is a fascistic ideology.
The problem with you leftists is that you obviously reject empiricism (which is itself a liberal epistemology). Empirical data shows that liberal societies are the ONLY ones that are free. As per empirical data socialist countries like China, North Korea, USSR etc etc etc are/were authoritarian. Do you believe in data? The apparent answer is no.
Using empirical data, prove to me that leftists actually care about freedom? You made THREE posts and in none of them you even mentioned human rights, women's rights and LGBT rights which are all center-left liberal inventions. Not only that, center-left liberals also fought for workers' rights. Leftists didn't even invent workers' rights that you pretend to care so much about.
The working class voted for Trump bcos working class people are conservative. If you actually listen to them you would know that they hate trans people more than they want workers' rights and welfare. This again shows why your leftist class reductionist analysis is wrong. They didn't vote for Trump bcos the Dems have abandoned the working class, the working class abandoned the Dems bcos of LIBERAL idpol which they call Marxist wokeism just to give liberalism a bad name by association.
After reading through the Wikipedia article about liberalism, I have a much more nuamced view of liberalism and I agree that the liberal fundamentals (free speech, democracy, religious freedom,etc) are necessary for progress but we can't keep getting caught up in pushing free markets for corporations while limiting economic freedom for people.
The left needs to push out neoliberalism from liberal ideology.
Anticapitalist liberalism is a counter to fascism unlike laissez faire neoliberalism that only makes fascists more powerful.
"Anticapitalist liberalism" just sounds like a rebrand of libertarian socialism.
neither capitalism nor socialism are necessary conditions of liberalism.
"we can't keep getting caught up in pushing free markets for corporations while limiting economic freedom for people." What if I told you all of the limitations on personal economic freedoms have been pushed by unions and the socialist wing of the Democrats?
It's true that in the past corporations on their own could and did all kinds of horrifically oppressive things, like company towns, but that has for the most part been outlawed. If that's where things stopped everything would have worked out, but then someone came along and started regulating companies to the point that only massive conglomerates that can afford to fight legal battles over every tiny little change could survive.
@@shadowyzephyrNot necessarily. Liberal socialism is actually a real thing that originates with John Stuart mill.
@@ASDeckardIf you told me that, you would be wrong.
There are 100 million eligible voters who didn’t vote. What does it take to motivate five million of them to vote. For reference I saw two guys on the streets supporting Luigi who did not vote. We need a few core issues to run on and rally around. I would choose Medicare for all as one. To do that we need liberals to not cave to right wing framing on it.
We need them to not take money from big pharma
The dems will only thrive if it once again becomes the party of labor. We need to go all in with the unions 100%. Liberal anti unionism needs to be a thing of the past.
First recommendation of your channel and I love the project! It's awesome to see Kyle collabing with smaller creators like this.
What you do when you bend the knee to right wing framing on issues, is that not only you give them a point on the framing which is already wrong on the framing alone, but also you lose your own base instead of moving people to the booth to vote. You can't make people vote on republican light republicans won't vote for you. I see it in my own country, people don't want to vote for people that defend nothing.
But i mean this is the never ending lesson real leftists not even talking far left, have to teach liberals on why fascism is a tool of the upper class to retain control and that you can't fight it with "i agree with those guyz!". Saddly for americans, Democrats learned nothing and they will offer another neoliberal idiot in 4 years.
They haven't learned. If you look at the principal method of electing leaders of the party, they elect after seniority, not value, knowledge, or talent. They are outdated and not interested in doing any renovation of the party.
Tough talk when almost half your social media pundits are paid shills or ideologically allied with Russia and China
And many of your other figures like TYT, Jimmy Dore and etc
Literally are right wings shills out for a right wing pay check/pay day...
Love kyle making rounds on other channels..
I dare these guys to really show their alliance with the left by inviting people like Emma Vigeland, Sam Seder, or Matt from Left Reckoning, I dare yall
Why do you think that is even relevant to show alliance with the left? That's not the point at all.
I’d love to bring emma and sam on
Speaking of the NRA, Adam Conover had a great video on how the NRA provides community for their members but there is nothing like that on the left. We need community member groups that provide identity and solidarity so it’s not just Democrats hounding you for donations every four years.
I just saw that video, and I can't believe I didn't think about this before. Where's the community outreach? Sadly, it's on the right.
You guys should get Mathew McManus on the show. His resurrection of “liberal socialism” is something more people need learn about.
Much love to all
Ty for the content!
When I hear liberal I think of social democracy, keynes and fdr, because of the period known as new deal liberalism or embedded liberalism, how ever, now the term liberal means center to center right (neoliberal)
liberals lets put band aids on things instead of actually fixing them....
"let's push reformist policy that's not universal which causes resentment among other classes"
cause fixing stuff is hard, and not a popular as you think it is in practice.
@@grandgibbon2071 universal programs have the highest approval rating
Fixing things isn't hard. Getting neoliberal politicians to fix things is hard.
They fix everything read a book that's
Great convo.
Hell yeah Kyle on the Micah praise
Great convo! We need more collaboration between leftists and liberals to defeat fascism.
Absolutely loving all the appearances Kyle has been making lately
Thank you so much Kyle for your energy these past couple months.
You're exactly the kind of person we need stepping up right now and you're really meeting the moment.
What a breath of fresh air... still listening! The REAL platform on immigration is so right on!
this is a great video. Thank you for the amazing content
How to keep people engaged.... Well thank you Kyle and other online personalities for for the work you do. What everyone needs to remember is that it's only part of what needs to be done. The way to keep people engaged is to give us tangible action steps with measurable outcomes that at the same time bring us together face to face and help us build real world community. We need to channel our energies into running for local office, having house parties, going to trainings on voter persuasion, and going door to door.
Things like starting the Justice Democrats and recruiting lots of candidates when they first started is one of the greatest things Kyle has done.
You have to deal with gerrymandering on a state level. Look up “voters not politicians”. They effectively ended gerrymandering in Michigan by direct ballot initiatives.
First exposure to this channel, and within the first mins it seems like you guys are in with Destiny and lol nope. My black ass is outta here.
@JustFeral As a Latina, the conversation was good and needed, but that comment made me decide against subscribing to the channel. ✊🏽
Destiney is a freak and anyone who lends him credence is a weirdo lol.
Literally the most unlikable, perfectly average IQ guy cosplaying as an intellectual when he couldn’t finish college
Kyle, please run for office. The nation needs your service.
We need left wing media to expand and Kyle is playing a key role in that project, so I actually prefer him to keep doing what he’s doing. Plus, since he’s had no filter, his opponents would have an easy time making attack ads with out of content clips of him
@@oklol7799If they painted Kamala as a Communist/Marxist, imagine what they’d say about Kyle 😂
Liberals why are you liberals
Of the UA-camrs in the political space, Kyle Kulinski is the one I resonate the most with. I don't agree with him on everything...but I agree with him a lot and he's stayed true to himself. He's not a grifter. This conversation was refreshing... especially when you compare it to TYT coddling the rights nutsack.
I didn’t know Malcom in the Middle was getting into politics.
Huey Dewey and Louie?
great conversation, thanks!
"Far left"
LOL
@@Effective_tool_of_Satan far left is wanting healthcare for all and for people to not starve on the streets apparently. I thought it was calling for the abolition of capitalism
I know. I hate that.. what is that, people that think exploitation sucks and Healthcare for everyone and general business minding is ideal? 🤦♂️
@@lordlemond1350also Kyle is a social democrat more like FDR so calling him far left is really annoying 😂
What's considered far left in the US is simply progressive liberal. What a joke
Yeah, Kyle is definitely a leftist, but he’s pretty far right as a leftist. I love Kyle and support what he says 95% of the time, he is an ally, but the Overton window in the US is skewed far right when you take a few steps back and consider world history. I’m all for opportunistic leftism though, let’s see where we agree and let’s make some changes.
You have to define big business vs small business. Generally, small business is good.
Ion no man, lotta small business tyrants out there.
@@joshbobst1629 *_"Generally,_* small business is good.
Guys who love Kyle's hair
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New here. Liking what I’m hearing out of this little trio.
Dang, Micah has had some really, really great points in this conversation. I really look forward to another episode of this podcast.
Edit, everyone had great points and I hope ya'll do at least one more follow up.
Also, Micah, I hope you've heard this quote before
"When the data and the anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually right. It’s usually not that the data is being miscollected. It’s usually that you’re not measuring the right thing. If you have a bunch of customers complaining about something, and at the same time your metrics look like they shouldn’t be complaining, you should doubt the metrics." ~ Jeffry Bezos.
Micah is amazing. Where have you been keeping him?
Eww no alliance with liberals
Polling is relatively clear on voter ideology & it has been fairly consistent for decades. The US is about 40-45% conservative/right wing voters, 20% progressive to leftist voters, 20-25% liberal/moderate voters, & 5-10% unaffiliated, disinterested people who just vote based on their perception of the economy. If liberals & leftists don't vote together, conservatives would always win.
@ liberals are conservatives with shame
Stay principled, stay pure, stay ineffective.
Now, Kyle sounds like Cenk in 2016, whereas Cenk now sounds like Kyle in 2016. What a transformation!
Yeah but even back in 2016 Kyle wasn’t caving to MAGA and praising them for “defeating the establishment”
@@oklol7799he’s slowly manipulating the maga sheeple. You have to coddle their fragile egos to win them over
That's hilarious !
Eh Cenk rn sounds like Bill Maher
It's funny how my evolution. I was kind of like that in 2016 too. And now I am way more radical this time than I was last time
I love how many liberals are actually willing to discuss money in politics. It's not the common person who supports liberalism that is responsible for the greed and corruption of corporate Democrats. It is the political class and ultra wealthy that make liberalism so toxic. Leftists should be more supportive of liberals, not openly antagonistic. Common folks are still working class. Liberals tend to be well-informed and often well intentionned.
Liberals gave us Trump, sorry.
No we did not.
@@belkyhernandez8281 sorry, but they did. The total lack of class consciousness aside, liberals are also super racist and trans phobic, they just have the shame to try and mask it unlike the proud bigots of the right.
You two are probably not using the same definition of “liberal”. Since it has been bastardized so thoroughly by the right, it’s best to use other descriptors.
Having said that, neo-liberals definitely gave the presidency to (he who shall not be named), primarily because their class economic priorities rhyme so much there is no significant difference.
Nah it was leftist like Kyle read a book next
@@belkyhernandez8281They did.
Been a fan of Kyle for ages. As a social democrat alliances are great but serious systemic changes like campaign finance reform (among other changes) need to take place as well. America has become an oligarchy and that's not hyperbole. Just my observations from the outside looking in as I'm not American.
"America is an oligarchy" is very much an oversimplification. Special interests & groups that represent no one have more power than academics/scientists, which is bad, but there are more "keys to power" than there are in actual oligarchies like Russia
@@shadowyzephyr "Special interests & groups that represent no one-" Medicare for all is a special interest. Better healthcare for veterans is a special interest. Remember when Jon Stewart shamed congress into giving 911 first responders free healthcare? That was a textbook special interest.
Higher farming subsidies so we can both keep food prices at world record lows and keep small farmers in business is a special interest. Moms against gun violence is a textbook special interest. Every single movement that has pushed to raise the minimum wage is a special interest. Every single time in the nations entire history that laws were enacted to restrict anti-union activity by corporations it was at the behest of a special interest group.
The power of academics and scientists? You mean like the 90% of economists who believe we need to *lower* the federal minimum wage, ban rent control, and radically cut social spending to reduce the deficit? Or are you on the side of the openly anti-science special interests on those issues instead?
People are weird. They don't even think through their own propaganda. "The problem with America is the special interest groups have too much power!" screams the union rep, who's sole job is to lobby the government against the advise of scientists on behalf of his special interest.
I love these crossover episodes with well 2 of my favorites and the Introduction to someone I wasn't firmilar with I hope more shows partner together.
I think Trump knows that a lot of his base don’t know what asylum seekers are and might believe they’re insane asylum seekers. And even those who don’t think that, think asylum seekers are bad because they cost too much, and will find the double entendre funny.
This alliance between leftism and liberalism unfortunately won't get anywhere unless we finally address the 50-year old elephant in the room: Dog Whistle Politics. Ian Haney López's Race-Class Narrative provides the answer to this. You should try inviting him on.
To me the easiest way to get rid of gerrymandering is to just get rid of congressional districts and allow the voters of each individual state to select their representatives by proportional representation. Example: a state whose population gives it 10 seats in the house will have its seats divided depending on how many people vote for that party in that state. If it's a swing state that'd mean 4 or 5 seats for both the republican and the democrat, and maybe 1 seat for either/or the greens and the libertartians. If it's a lefty state, then 30% republicans would actually get 3 seats and an outright socialist party might get 1 seat in the house without the majority democrats being able to do anything about it, same for the reverse if the state leans conservative.
Would break up the two-party system a bit too since at least some non-zero % of house members would be neither republicans nor democrats, and in a narrow house where neither side has a clear majority this would introduce the crazy radical incomprehensible idea of compromise and the need for maximum popular appeal to US politicians. Which is why they will fight to the death to keep something like this from being implemented, but if you want to permanently get rid of gerrymandering without leaving a way for bad actors to exploit it, then this is how I would fix it. Not at a national level for president or something, that'd do what conservatives always fear and make all politicans only care about the populated coasts of the country, but at the state level I really don't see the downsides of proportional representation. Republicans in California and Democrats in Nebraska would actually have a reason to vote during elections, since even if they know their party won't crack 50% every vote matters and could get their party one more representative in the house, which would increase turnout and engagement, which is good for a democracy period, so again, imho there really isn't any downside.
So would we no longer be voting for individual candidates in these races then?
@@wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY That depends on the details. On the one hand, you can have it so that the parties running for seats in that state choose (by whatever means its members and leadership deem fair and reasonable) a list of candidates to publish so everyone can see who they'll be voting for, and on election day every voter simply fills in which of the available parties they want to vote for. If there's 10 seats up for grab each party will have 10 candidates named and if they win 60 percent of the vote then the first 6 people on that list get elected. Simple but yes you wouldn't be voting for individuals anymore. Alternatively, if you don't mind large ballots you can have all the candidates listed under each party on the ballot (this is what we do in the Netherlands, check out our huge ballots if you dare to) so you can specifically vote for a candidate representing a party if you want to, even if the party has but him or her at the bottom of the list. If the specific person you voted for didn't get enough votes then your vote counts towards that party in general like in the first example. That way you can still also campaign for an individual if you want to, on the understanding that it's also for the broader party if he or she doesn't reach the threshold to win a seat in their own right.
Of course you can further add things like ranked choice voting and the like, but that gets a bit excessivly complicated in my opinion.
There is just no easy way right now to get rid of anything requiring a constitutional amendment.
Apparently youtube took issue with my lengthy explanation about why you could still vote for individual candidates if the US adopted something like the dutch system on a state-by-state basis @wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY so I'm sorry but you'll have to look the details up yourself, but yes you can.
@@grandgibbon2071 Do the states or the national congress really not have the power to declare that gong forard seats for the house should be elected on a state-by-state basis of proportional representation? I'm not talking about changing the number of seats or the electoral requirements for either a voter, a candidate or a party, just specifically how the people of a state elect their national representatives. Is even that really set in stone constitutionally? You'd think either the states or the federal government could just change that using their legislative powers.
What an interesting conversation between 3 intelligent, informed people
Kyle is the leader of the left in my opinion.
That’s why they can’t win elections
Ion no, he endorsed, and was doing a lot of activism for, Genocide Joe. A lot of us on the left find that disqualifying without a mea culpa.
I think there is a misunderstanding of what "liberal" means. The vast majority of people in the US who are on the left are also liberals. These things are not mutually exclusive. You can be a left liberal, a progressive liberal, a centrist liberal, or a conservative liberal (though they tend to now call themselves "classic liberals." Bernie Sanders is a liberal. He's also on the center-left. If your policies align with something close to the New Deal or Social Democracy, you're a liberal. Chances are, if you are on the left and you're not a communist, you're a liberal. Also, there is no meaningful "far left" in the US. People like The Squad, Bernie, and AOC are center-left.
Liberalism is a capitalist ideology, leftism is anti-capitalist. There is just not a huge difference between a social democrat and a moderate leftist in terms of practical short-term prescriptions, because the next ten steps of progress in the USA are obvious to anyone with a brain AKA liberals and leftists.
When they say liberal they mean neo-liberal.
That is not how most ppl use the term liberal most leftists see liberal as a slur damn near because all the establishment POS politicians like Pelosi and Shumer and Biden and Obama and Joe Mansion are liberal
But yes the US is so right wing that internationally both are parties are considered right wing
I would say democratic socialism and anything left of that is outside of liberalism, as it's opposed to capitalism/market-based systems. Bernie supports some liberal policy, but I would probably classify him as a leftist if I had to pick one.
@@shadowyzephyrThis is why labels are difficult, but I'm thinking of liberalism as individual rights, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, and equality before the law. Liberalism usually includes the right to "private property" which I think most Democratic Socialists would still agree with including Sanders.
But regardless, I suspect many people are just using "liberal" to differentiate themselves from neo-liberals or centrist Dems, while not being a socialist (democratic or otherwise). For example, Kyle calls himself a Social Democrat, not a Democratic Socialist and compared his politics to the Nordic model which is still a capitalist model.
I think the approach Joshua suggested is probably the most likely to succeed: "He lied to you. Want to try something different?"
"better the devil you know than the angel you dont." -old American proverb
I think RFK is the most dangerous pick. With him, there is a real a verry real possibility that this term will end the way the last one did, with a global pandemic.
Forget the end of his term, infectious disease experts are losing sleep over H5N1 being a few mutations away from sustained human to human transmission right this minute. I can't think of any other person alive whom I'd want to be in charge of public health less than RFK Jr. right now.
Yeah... The BEST we can get from Trump on abortion is a states' rights approach.
New subscriber here. Great show!
Kyle is SO correct about his policies, but the populism thing....meh. We need a Marxist analysis of these issues because the critiques hold up the strongest to this day.
if liberal parties were like these policies wonks, and not just arms of bourgeoisie interests, i wouldnt have to be a communist
true but people like Micah will never learn that leftism is better than liberalism
The fact you are a communist shows you how unintelligent you are about politics
@@matsal3211Nah you people are the bad just leftist have ruined and destroyed everything that’s a fact
Kyle never fails to be wrong 😂
no u
Come on guys. Let´s not pretend as if right wing voters didn´t know where Trump´s contributiuons were comming from. His main donor was jumping around his stage for half of the time. Did voters care? Not so much. So transparency is good but at the end of the day show me one voter that cares where they got the money from and I`ll show you ten that don´t.
Love when liberals sounds like half socialists, way to go!
We should ban socialist
The other point of a tariff is to be targeted, not broad...
That guys eyebrows just don’t quit
the vaping took me out! 😂
I like Kyles channel and I think he means well but at the end of the day this interview betrays a certain ignorance on his part of why socialists dislike liberals. Liberals are pro-capitalist, they believe the system is broken and it is possible for society to be functioning well with a more humanitarian breed of capitalism. Socialists, on the other hand, have read Marx and know that social democracy would be very difficult to achieve and impossible to sustain because, by nature, these forces contradict capitalism. We already saw this happen with FDR and the new deal era and what followed that-- neoliberalism. It isn't possible to reform capitalism in a long-term and sustainable way, it will always undo itself a la the ratchet effect. We need a new system entirely. It is a shame Kyle cannot see this. I wish he had a vaush style stream and engaged more with his audience so we could at least hear his response to these points. But he doesn't seem interested in that or any critiques of his viewpoint.
What's this alternative system and how is social democracy failing in other countries? I'm not clear on this sort of critique. All systems propose to have the answer but people have to buy in or nothing is ever going to work and stick.
@ transitional libertarian socialism followed by communism is the alternative system and when I say communism I mean it in its pure form ie a stateless and moneyless society. Social democracy is failing on other countries because as we speak it is being undone and more and more European countries are turning into the US. Give it like 50 years or less. We are witnessing the rise of fascism globally. The only reason European countries are more progressive and socially democratic now is BECAUSE they were neighboring the Soviet Union and needed to keep people loyal to their side and not lose people to the Soviets. Because they knew how popular it is among the people. Now that the Soviet Union is gone social democracy in Europe is unraveling and one day will disappear entirely. I recommend reading Das Kapital by Karl Marx if you’re unclear on why capitalism is bad for humanity and needs to be supplanted. Marx is extremely exhaustive in his work, this one in particular (all volumes of Capital that is) pretty much covers it all, and I don’t think you will have any questions left once you’ve finished it.
Name me a successful socialist country? You cant because non exist. Even 'communist' China eventually had to liberalize its economy and implement market reforms to boost competitiveness and innovation whilst Social democracy flourishes in most European countries. Empirically there is more evidence to support the sustainability and success of social democracy than full blown socialism. No system is ever perfect but social democracy is a much more viable and attainable path for a country such as the US.
Micah has a cadence like Vivek
he wants to act like a liberal but he's a neoliberal which is ew
@@matsal3211 Neoliberal is a useless pejorative term.
brb gonna go kms
@@matsal3211ouch
@@matsal3211 ffs, he is way too young for that. lol
Ugh.... why are you trying to rehabilitate the "liberal" moniker? You're either a progressive or a regressive now. Do better than this Kyle....
only way kyle makes it to my feed is if he is on someone else's show lulz
I love Kyle but he's really wrong on the strategy about immigration. Changing public opinion on major issues in the span of a few months is basically impossible. Kamala did have the right strategy here, although it was never going to be enough to save her. Also if BBB passed, voters would have cared way more about the extra inflation than the extra paid family leave.
Libertarian and liberal are not interchangeable. I am liberal. Not libertarian. And I posit one cannot be liberal if adherence to a specific economic model is a precondition other than as it relates to human rights.
Didn’t FRR do something with camps
I keep saying we need our own Daily Wire. The right has done so well with their messaging and misinformation machine that we lost this election 10 years ago.
So many bad ideas for real problems. The solution to gerrymandering is simply to abolish distracting. Everyone's vote counts as cast, not gets flipped because 51% or whatever of other people in a district voted for someone else. While we are at it, we need to totally abolish the terrible electoral college.
We need ranked choice voting so two parties can't dominate the upper ranks.
For campaigning, we should have set times and places to put ads, debates, etc. that cost nothing. No other political ads allowed if X amount of time before election, like say 6 months or a year, not even subject ads. (like abortion or immigration etc)
And more.
Good job
The only thing that changed about Kyle in the last 10 years is the yellow hair.
29:50 We need a media that is willing to shout out the accomplishments of Democrats. I feel like I never saw that except from a select few people.
I think he does know what tariffs do, this in part is how he is going to pay for his tax cuts for the rich.
I guess Kyle has never played Red Dead 2
When American's were voting it was to go back to the economy of 2019.
why does bro in the middle have that ezra klein ….*inflection*? 🤨
For every Trump quote is another that contradicts said quote. He’s constantly stuck between a lie and a bad idea.
Of overturn business personhood, could it stop corp from funding? If individuals want to take from their personal pockets to donate then ok. The koch brother can donate, koch Inc cant
maybe if they ban a minimum wage the upshot will be that states will finally embrace UBI.
Making money off Kyle is crazy … cmon bruh
We need to support the dem candidates up and down every ticket.
@@lisaratley4858 even with people like Joe manchin? Cause fffaaaaawwwck that
dems are just as corrupt as cons. they take money from the same donors and their interests dont fully align with the working class. they are the lesser of two evils sure but not the best choice.
just use the view of the current speaker instead of having the three panels and staring at people who aren't talking.
Labels, labels, labels.
kyle is also a liberal maybe that's the reason you guys get along so well
more left unity pls
I had lunch with a Trump supporter last year and we discussed politics and his comment to me was “you still believe in government?”, and I said yes. A lot of those on the right have just lost any hope in governments ability to make positive change and so they are fine destroying it.
Homes are 400k, brink of ww3, healthcare system is rigged, banned labeling gmo food, politicians making millions on wall st, a reality star is the president, media full on lies about things and gets sued for it, sorority sisters moderating presidential debates, anti religious Olympic ceremony, presidential assassination attempts, homelessness at all time highs, presidents kids are crack heads, experimental vaccine mandates…. The only way it’s gets worse is when everyone earning under 300k is homeless or on govt assistance. If you can make a better argument for how we are not approaching a “point of no return”, please humor me.
Black Lives Matter was the catalyst of the woke movement and in 4 years they haven’t done anything but make black peoples life more financially difficult. (Because everyone’s life is more financially difficult now). The real winners of the BLM movement is undoubtedly the trans community. And that’s your govt that did that. While giving handouts to illegals in the faces of people they promised to help.
I forgot to mention people being burned alive on subways and driving cars into crowds.
I also forgot to mention massive pedo operations at the highest level of govt. Which has been a problem for a while, nothing new. Well except for Epstein. Funny how the govt swept that under the rug aye?
Where did my previous comments go?
Lmfao settling out of court suggests you know your going to lose if it goes to court so you settled out of court to cut your loses hence you were going to lose!!!!!
#BlockTulsi
this is so short
Hows that L tasting?
Is Giga-Failing?