Internal vs. External, what's the difference? - Prana Dynamics (Part 3)

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  • @THEMARTIALMAN
    @THEMARTIALMAN  3 роки тому +9

    Registration is now open for the next Prana Dynamics Master Program with Master Huai Hsiang Wang to guide those interested in step-by-step instruction both martially and spiritually. This program is geared towards those who are serious about mastering the internal arts. Both theory and practice will be expounded and demonstrated in detail, free from tradition and lineage. Click on the link to enroll: bit.ly/3lz8ptH

  • @dannykino
    @dannykino 7 місяців тому

    Wow! This needs to be watched over and over. Thank you

  • @flaviocampanile3384
    @flaviocampanile3384 3 роки тому +8

    Very insightful, thank you very much for sharing 🙏

  • @thorick590
    @thorick590 3 роки тому +10

    there's an old traditional martial arts saying: 'external styles go from from hard to soft while internal styles go from soft to hard in the end they both end up in the same place'. The thing that I see the most is where the internal stylist or the external stylist sticks to only near the starting place and does not do the work to get to the other side, so the soft stylist has little hardness and the hard stylist has little softness.. the most profound people I'd ever seen had reached a place where you could not say that they were 'hard' or 'soft' I think they must've reached that end place.

  • @OldJong
    @OldJong 3 роки тому +12

    " You can"t use the mind to transcend the mind" Just let that sink in! :-)

    • @AR-qn9mq
      @AR-qn9mq 3 роки тому +1

      Sink in to what ?

    • @nikolayordanov3115
      @nikolayordanov3115 3 роки тому

      Man, this is hard to do...

    • @Naiddou
      @Naiddou 3 роки тому

      but if you understand mind you can enter awareness

    • @Bevallalom
      @Bevallalom 2 роки тому

      He told us the answer. You are not the mind and not the body.... you can't transcend your mind. You can transcend yourself, the real spiritual being that you are.

  • @vitalyromas6752
    @vitalyromas6752 3 роки тому +2

    Kieren, thank you a lot for this series of discussions with Mr. Wang bringing clarity to overcomplicated issues. Those who practice may see "echos" of problems encountered during practice. The most tricky for me is exactly the issue when the mind is always copying the experience trying to replicate it. But it replicates the image of the experience, not the real process. And the tricky thing is when the mind take a copied picture as a real process... Advice to deflame the mind - exactly what helps. Intent is like the chopsticks. One doesn't imaging chopsticks or a fork to eat a meal. One just take chopstick or a fork. In my experience, intent is the same, it is what exists, but hidden behind the imagination... And people often just imagine chopsticks instead of just taking chopsticks placed in front.
    "Intension is not intent of your mind but intent of the energy"... thank you, very well said. In-tension. Etymology, directly from Latin intentus "a stretching out."
    Another important thing is pronounced at 10:55... Exactly what the intent is.
    And it reminds me one episode from the "Ghost" movie, 1990, subway scene. In the childhood it seemed to be pure phantasie. But the funny thing is that despide the words about the mind and emotions they really discussed the intent there ))
    ua-cam.com/video/YKeIW8kaZbk/v-deo.html

    • @Daniel_Mueller
      @Daniel_Mueller Рік тому

      Just take it (the fork or the spoon) - f.e. travellers won't be stopped, let them go 😉
      "Wu wei" or "Be water, my friend" 🐉

  • @patwolt6645
    @patwolt6645 3 роки тому +5

    Great explanation of the internal and external force within the martial arts.

  • @thedoctor7151
    @thedoctor7151 3 роки тому +2

    I’m with you Howard

  • @SenseiMaharaj
    @SenseiMaharaj Рік тому

    This video interview deserves more likes and views.. 😊
    Thanks for posting such great master's interviews.

  • @truthserum9456
    @truthserum9456 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating and thank you. I was particularly impressed with the mention of the observer and the observed.

  • @Daniel_Mueller
    @Daniel_Mueller Рік тому

    Everything great is simple, but not easy.

  • @michaelreadnower4424
    @michaelreadnower4424 3 роки тому +3

    Wow the most useful video "i" have ever watched 😄👍🙏🍀🙌

  • @interestedpart2650
    @interestedpart2650 11 місяців тому

    Excellent & informative!

  • @ilyaolshanetskiy7421
    @ilyaolshanetskiy7421 3 роки тому

    Master Huai Hsiang Wang goes way beyond modern understanding and practice of martial arts. Granted he talks about traditional Chinese kung fu. Even his language and terms are different. Essentially he shares with us a practical science of life. A revelation.

  • @willblackett4709
    @willblackett4709 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent interview. Deflame the mind Great stuff !!

  • @gravy_brain
    @gravy_brain 3 роки тому +3

    wow. thank you Gentlemen.

  • @bajuszpal172
    @bajuszpal172 Рік тому

    Well, Gentlemen,
    Again a highly instructive dialogue, bringing light into the difference between external and internal aspects of KF, seemingly an eteranal conflict. Albert EInstein said, that problems cann be solved at a higher level than created, and to the very end cam the name of a God Jesus, who also, by your words Master, lead people from egoistic thinking toward eternal energy-based idea, if correctly understood.
    Yes, God is above all of us and people will never be the same! It is difference that make them moving too. Many thanks, anyway. Older people need moere your approach than taht of athletic-based physical training. God bless you all. Paul,67, retired instructor of Karate, admirer of Kung Fu

  • @vmarc4682
    @vmarc4682 3 роки тому +3

    I think of external power as being a club. Internal as being a whip.

  • @LaoZi2023
    @LaoZi2023 3 роки тому +9

    I disagree with the idea that the dantien exists and doesn't exist- it's not just a concept, after cultivation they truly have a life of their own. And what I mean by that is that the energy will do what it does without your consent, channelling efforts, or mind intention. When you have cultivated your qi in your body, and it gets amplified to a certain point of strength, it doesn't always do what you want it to do, it will do what it needs to do to support the life of the host.
    In the beginning of cultivating the dantiens, there is no dantien, this is true. They are cultivated through meditation and practice and they grow, like a fire in a cauldron. Yes, the mind does the work to create an abundance of qi in the areas of huiyin, , true dantien, middle dantien, and upper dantien areas. But doing this type of practice is just one method. But, make no mistake, when the dantiens are full, you will know it and they do change your life. And they can be dangerous, if you don't know what you are doing. I understand his point that if you mentally transcend your physical manifestation then you no longer need to use your energetic plexuses and nerve ganglion clusters to harvest your dantiens.
    Master Huai Hsiang Wang's practice is even more "internal" than developing your dantiens. And is more akin to Tai Chi "proper" cultivation practices, where your whole body is a dantien, and even the earth itself is the dantien your surf upon;and totally releasing your mind's conditioned shackles from your body's bondage.
    *One only has to look up the practices of Mo Pai to understand the most extreme school, known to the public, in cultivating the lower true dantien.

    • @ThomasK95
      @ThomasK95 3 роки тому +1

      Posting here to remember this comment. Good stuff

    • @easternmovementprinciples4799
      @easternmovementprinciples4799 3 роки тому +1

      Yeap. Talking about a topic he doesn’t understand when it comes to dantian cultivation & use

    • @ThomasK95
      @ThomasK95 3 роки тому +1

      @@easternmovementprinciples4799 nah he knows more than you sorry bruv

    • @LaoZi2023
      @LaoZi2023 3 роки тому

      @@ThomasK95 not true when it comes to Dan tien practices and cultivation. This becomes clear when he said it was metaphorical. You’ll need more knowledge to make that statement.

    • @ThomasK95
      @ThomasK95 3 роки тому

      @@LaoZi2023 oh sorry i haven't mastered the intricacies of youtube commenting :D I meant that you, Douglas, are more knowledgeable :)

  • @BarrySantEasternArts
    @BarrySantEasternArts 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you

  • @HV-Channel
    @HV-Channel Рік тому +1

    Best explanation ever.

  • @joshuatoms7664
    @joshuatoms7664 3 роки тому

    Yes, once you have the realization, the energy is already there. But then you can build and strengthen it as well.

  • @metrfulton9708
    @metrfulton9708 3 роки тому +1

    Can you train both external & internal martial arts at the same time

  • @JimmySlacksack
    @JimmySlacksack 3 роки тому +2

    Question for Howard: If you have attained a high degree of internal skill and have good form do you still need to practice Cham jang gong/standing meditation?

    • @stormbreaker123
      @stormbreaker123 3 роки тому

      If I recall correctly, Howard's method does not require this type of standing work, it is based on partner work and validation. I asked him the same question once in person.

  • @ggtso
    @ggtso 3 роки тому +2

    Please let us know who are Master Wang's spiritual teachers and which traditions he draws from. I think he explained his martial arts lineage, but not his spiritual teachings lineage. Since he discusses a lot the spiritual aspects, just curious what are his sources, thanks.

  • @YIQUANONE
    @YIQUANONE 4 місяці тому

    It is like a finger pointing at the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss it. All are tools to climb the mountain, once at the top, you don't need the tools anymore.

  • @peterasmussen2933
    @peterasmussen2933 2 роки тому

    aye true indeed, saying similar to all the great Vedantic Saints.

  • @dorelrotar8468
    @dorelrotar8468 Рік тому

    You made a typo mistake regarding Master Wang’s course
    You mention that early bird registration is $100.00

  • @pbg9208
    @pbg9208 3 роки тому +2

    EPIC

  • @THEMARTIALMAN
    @THEMARTIALMAN  3 роки тому +3

    If you have any questions you want me to ask Howard in a future video, please leave a comment so that I can relay your questions to him. Thanks!

    • @realhomosapien
      @realhomosapien 3 роки тому +2

      Why does Taijiquan always get defeated by MMA fighter compared to other External Kung fu styles like Hung Ga, Choy Li Fut, Mok Ga, and other?
      It's not that I am saying Taiji or Chinese martial arts is useless coz me myself is a Hung Ga practitioner.
      But the fact that Taijiquan always becomes a laughing stock in Martial arts after Lei Lei get defeated by Xu Xiaodong which I hope it is only one art or the person itself being blame but then now almost all Chinese Martial Arts becomes a laughing stock
      Luckily people still practice external Kung fu like Hung Ga, Choy Li fut, or those Kung fu forms in Shaolin Temple and acrobatic Wushu schools

    • @Prueba_Te
      @Prueba_Te 3 роки тому +1

      Different systems talk about different internal engines, like internal WC such as CST being different from Taiji way, in Taiji they talk always about Ying/Yang. Is this true? Is all the same in the end? Are they just "more elevated" steps but the same at the peak? Thanks!

    • @yellostallion
      @yellostallion 3 роки тому +4

      I understand everything Howard said because of the book Inner Engineering by a yogi named Sadhguru. Western culture is "I think therefore I am." This is logical to me and to most but it's faulty logic if you are seeking this path. "You are a being, a life's energy first, before you could think." The first person to realize and tapped into this life's energy (chi in Chinese) is Adiyogi, 15 thousand years ago. Yes. But not for martial arts. This knowledge then spread to China or regions now we called China, and used in martial arts, philisophy, medicine, and healing as well. Hope that helps.

    • @frbud
      @frbud 3 роки тому +2

      @@realhomosapien Because the MMA fighter who won only challenge the unreal master or people who feel that they're already master (fake), try to challenge real Chen family or real Shao Lin teacher and let see the result.
      Second cause is all the "master" that they fight didn't have proper fighting exercise and experience if compare to MMA fighter.

    • @realhomosapien
      @realhomosapien 3 роки тому +1

      @@frbud exactly, Taijiquan was a grappling and standing wrestling martial arts, but people like self proclaimed master misconcept taijiquan as a magical chi bulshido martial arts. Chinese martial arts does work cuz me myself an Hung Ga practitioner
      But I wanna hear the answer from Howard cuz maybe he have another different answer lmao wkwkwkwk

  • @metrfulton9708
    @metrfulton9708 3 роки тому

    All blessings sifu , can we use internal martial arts for selfdefense or streetfighting

  • @rogelee-TW
    @rogelee-TW 8 місяців тому +1

    👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @KeithOng
    @KeithOng 3 роки тому +3

    external - more muscular and local strength / Internal - more tendon and unified strength. Don't be fooled by woo woo. Both are 'forces'. Physic........

    • @nikolayordanov3115
      @nikolayordanov3115 3 роки тому

      I agree, based on my understanding so far in the field

    • @bunny_rabbit5753
      @bunny_rabbit5753 3 роки тому

      Chill dude 😁 me Nd is everything don't u know the synapse reaction of body when u get attacked , Ur body moves automatically. He is just saying to still the mind and enjoy the play that way you will be able to see more and act less 👍

  • @metrfulton9708
    @metrfulton9708 3 роки тому

    Is internal martial arts good for sex health

  • @Jenjak
    @Jenjak 3 роки тому

    Internal vs external is irrelevant because they are two sides of the same coin.

  • @perrypelican9476
    @perrypelican9476 3 роки тому +1

    I know this guy is wise but I have no clue what he is talking about. I wish he would try very hard to make us understand instead of just expressing himself. I would like if he would use a multi step way of expressing himself. He says only one thing at a time, so what is step one, step two, step three. Etc. Please tell me what is step one.

    • @czechmate6475
      @czechmate6475 3 роки тому +3

      We have to buy the course I guess

    • @mallucka5358
      @mallucka5358 3 роки тому +2

      @@czechmate6475 A course of course.

    • @michaelreadnower4424
      @michaelreadnower4424 3 роки тому

      Step one

    • @KeithOng
      @KeithOng 3 роки тому

      i am sure he also has no idea of what he is talking about. That's what woo woo is.

    • @michaelreadnower4424
      @michaelreadnower4424 3 роки тому +1

      @@KeithOng no idea is the first step. Easy the I. I think the main point was to alow your ego to dissolve. As in all arts the greatest masters always say they did not create their master pieces. Like bruce lee said don't think feel. Much love and good luck

  • @ohmartialarts9167
    @ohmartialarts9167 3 роки тому +1

    Learning how to use internal power has little or nothing to do with this enlightenment rap.

    • @karimsonsafehold9233
      @karimsonsafehold9233 3 роки тому

      Those with spiritual roots that are dead or decayed, are deluded into thinking they are using internal power. They are just using their life force and vampirically sucking it out of other people.

  • @gongfutaijimy
    @gongfutaijimy 3 роки тому

    Internal martial artists, you have to be able to relax in front of an aggressive, resisting opponent looking to harm you before you can use your style. Good luck!