He got that damn right, though then the next also aware conclusion and according action would be "let's not waste time here with Chi magic and dancing and let's go punch, kick, being practicioners of MMA, Judo, Wrestling, Boxing, Muay Thai etc, because we're exactly wasting our time with bs like this that will get us killed, with opponents being able to competently punch enough"
@cyberpunk jutsu When you experience Chi (supposingyou have) then you will know it's phenomenon. Some do and accept is as a normality. Chi is 'life' and with it 'energy', known as a simple chinese philosophy. It can be developed upon like common principles of westernized development because Chi is a representation for something all life has and will exhibit in every action and thought. I've been thrown across the room with little more than a basic touch, so what. But it's principle as Chi is not touch but internally directed.
One of my favorite quotes from “Book of Five Rings” is that Miyamoto Musashi observes that in his era of peace ( the early Edo period) the martial arts are full of charlatans. He uses a metaphor to describe this: there are always more “Flowers than Seeds”. In our modern, internet age; we think this phenomenon is new... but it is not. Fakery and McDojos have existed for as long as martial arts have been around.
There are probably increasingly few McDojos in modern times due to television and internet exposing bullshido. Hence why BJJ, and MMA have been rocketing in popularity.
Once was attacked while so inebriated I could barely stand up. Long setup but NY cabdriver doesn’t want to go from Wall Street to Brooklyn. I wasn’t being disorderly but pointed out NYC law says he cannot legally turn the trip down. So he pulls me out of the cab by my tie. Being trained, I followed rather than pulling back. Put my hand in front of his face. He didn’t notice that I was circling behind him til I had him in a naked rear choke and then continued to spin til I was balanced against the fender. Was going to drop him and walk away. But before I can finish two detectives show up with gold badges in hand. They suggest we go our separate ways and I accept their offer. It is true that when a trained martial artist finds himself in a real situation he will instinctively go to his best training for a solution. I came to grasp the fundamentals of drunken monkey king fu that night. Look helpless. Initiate a quick threatening move but be slow to close until you have been able to attain a stable defensive posture and leave no openings and be patient til you find the opportunity you need and can exploit to counter. Once you grasp strategic thinking you are never in a bad spot as long as you can stand and move - Matt’s dad
I studied a form of Silat here in America called Kuntao. I studied with a guy who was a student of the foremost practitioner of it whose name is Willem DeThouars. The art is legit. We did a number of different arts such as boxing, BJJ, Muay Thai and some Kali and Silat fit in there perfectly as a system of self defense. Like any other art out there it is made better by knowing about and practicing many different arts. The Silat was great for unbalancing opponents and creating openings that transitioned into striking and if needed there were also a number of take downs and breaking down of postures that flowed directly into Jui Jitsu. I just wanted to put this here in order to let people know that Silat is not in anyway fake or ineffective simply because one person representing the art is an idiot. And in reference to her as well I have seen some of her other videos that demonstrate solid Silat skills so I don't understand why she choose to go this direction.
She's Indonesian. Vids for fun. Expression of fun concepts pertaining to indonesia. But people there genuinely can differentiate fun from fact in this case. Unlike others elsewhere with deadbeat minds.
The Baguazhang classics also state “the most righteous fighter will always win.” That’s usually interpreted to mean “the person who has trained the hardest will always win.” The Confucian ideals were key back then: bravery, sincerity, benevolence.
What happened here in Indonesia with the case of Chintya Chandranaya is totally different with China with Xu Xiao Dong. Pencak Silat is well respected among the MMA community because many of our MMA champion has Pencak Silat as their basic. Even the fighters Who debunk Chintya some of them are from Pencak Silat. We also have a strong culture of competition in many rules. So, yes many of US feel ashamed with Chintya's case but it's not even close for US to question the Pencak Silat it self
Really? Which ones? Could you recommend me some fighters to check out? I'm not trying to troll you, I think silat looks awesome and I would love to see it in action!
@@pedrokenzo4670 the first MMA champion from Indonesia is Aji Susilo. He has a strong Silat back ground. Another champ with strong Silat back ground and still active is Suwardi. If I dig deeper i'll find more names
@@sokonlon No singular TMA decides an MMA competition. Stop using MMA matches as proof of the effectiveness of a system. A guy's experience, stamina, heart to win, luck, overall conditioning, all play a bigger roles than any system he's come out from.
I train Silat, Muay Thai, Dutch kickboxing, and regular western boxing. I know how to make Silat work thanks to all the sparring I’ve done. I love Silat, it’s my favorite martial art of all time next to northern shaolin.
Yup watching MA content is a great way to get motivated into actually getting up and doing it. I am there myself, trying to regain back the momentum I once had that I lost.
So the moral of the story is just because there are some fakers and terrible martial artists out there doesn’t mean the martial art sucks as a whole, pursue the truth and you’ll be good. Ramsey Dewey taught me this, wise man.
Matt’s dad here. Started at 12, mid 70s now. Always pressure tested my way, always combined physical training with intellectual analysis and spiritual growth. Spirit leads mind, mind leads body. Yours is truly the way of constantly learning, testing and evaluation. In my mind and heart you are one of the real deals who really gets it all. Thank you, my brother from another mother. Greatest respect…. /s/ Matt’s dad
Silat is just like karate, kendo, judo or other martial arts..... . Its a way of living and learn body & mental growe. Greetings from the Netherlands 🙏 OSU 🙏
Currently Silat is scattered into so many styles and schools, and almost all of them have kept different pieces of "silat puzzle" while losing a lot of others, but together they form a picture grand enough to be called "way of living", it seems to me.
Really appreciate your open mindedness and impartial investigation. After decades it gets hard to learn new things in the arts, but you have become one of my valued sources for real and often useful martial arts information. Always feel informed as well as entertained when I watch your videos. Thank you, Ramsey and keep up the good (and principled) work. PS all your information is useful to somebody. But I was referring to the fact I have been studying all my life and after decades it is rare that I can find new things that can have a practical application by a somewhat old man. Yours is one of the few channels where I can still learn practical improvements to what I already have learned. /s/ Matt’s dad
I had a teacher who passed away, he studied Silat the old way, fit as a fiddle at his old age and when he passed away was recognized as the one of a couple teachers who learned the art traditionally (even was featured in a newspaper when he died stating this fact). No mambo jumbo of 'Batin' or magic power. We called him 'Guru utama' which means key teacher, etc. He actually scoffed at the term 'mahaguru' which means grandmaster and always refused to be called that way.
At the time when I was watching that, I didn't know what to look at. But later one decent instructor came to us and offered to train us for a few months just to show some (well, quite a lot of) conditioning exercises and in the meantime to give an example of what Silat is generally about. Of course, you cannot learn a MA in that timeframe, but it was a really useful program (and we learned a lot of interesting things pertaining to recent history of Indonesia), and some people now train with that instructor on a regular basis.
The first time I had heard of Silat was from the manga "History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi". There were two characters there that used it(Though the series over exaggerates it too much). It was very interesting to learn about and see how it worked. It's a shame what the image of it has become but I believe it's a good martial art worth learning or at least acknowledging.
TheBanana669 I train Kickboxing and BJJ and it’s not bad to be introduced to martial art in anime/Manga since it helps people get interested in martial arts by being introduced into different arts like savate and Muay Thai
I had a point where I thought Silat was like the greatest martial art until I learned the reality of fighting not that it can’t be good cause it definitely can
I’d say a lot of the concepts of silat can potentially be applied to a real fight and a lot of it depends on how fast your reflexes are and how good your hand/eye coordination is. In every martial art, the most effective “moves” are the most simple ones.
Wikkow wren Yeah, not being japanese or chinese would sell well, you would think It would be some tradizional bullshido but this time legitimate and working for a martial confrontation.
@Peter Miller good comment. Think of chess, and how a chess master from over 100 years ago could easily beat most ordinary players today, but would look hopeless verses any modern chess 'master'. Every competitive fighting art needs to evolve constantly and adapt to the challenges of the times. Without that the techniques can quickly become outdated relics of a bygone age.
@Purasuchikku_Aidoru Then how come almost none of the people prior to the late 90's and the UFC trend died despite not knowing grappling? No man in existence was ever afraid of someone smothering them in close contact. They were concerned about being stabbed, shot or getting their teeth and testicles kicked in though because those are dangerous threats even to a bodybuilder while you can prevent most people from grappling you if you simply lift weights for a few years.
Been doing Silat for about six years now, what I can say is no martial art works as it meant to be unless you train yourself with it. Mental prep is a thing, but body flow is more important. Remember what Bruce Lee used to say, "I fear not of a man who studied a thousand style of kicks, but I fear those who train one kick a thousand times". It's always the training that makes an art deadly, not the idea of the art itself. Personally I used to assume Silat is ineffective until I keep a consistent training in it and carry it into sparring tournament. Most of the time without me realizing it my body has already been in the position that I needed to launch a takedown or a lock technique simply cause I train the same move everyday. So that's the keyword, train. Without that, even the simplest kickboxing would be inferior.
wow thanks Ramsey for the thoughts, that really clears things out, and totally agree there are a lot of fake silat practitioner these days here in Indonesia, and yeah it all depends of the person who practice, and all the wisdom are almost the same in all martial arts all over the world especially the traditional ones is to be more humble and some could be really deadly. usually the better the practitioners become the more humble they will be
I really enjoy some of your videos. Your opinions are always very polite, trying to be objetive, and well balanced between facts and experience. Keep on the good work.
Theres a channel called core jkd on UA-cam, where the guy uses/teaches a lot of wingchun and silat. Its pretty cool and he tries to keep it practical. He does include stuff from other styles sometimes, but wingchun and silat are his personal favorites.
Im one of silat practitioner, What you said was right... Some of them claim they was master but bad practitioner. Sometimes we cant stick on old style need adapt with other Martial arts. Btw silat, is more mix like judo, grappling, kendo,
Silat is awesome. I like you stumbled upon it literally with your own words "Seeing a book with funny looking postures" and thought hey, this is weird..no one can fight from that position. Strangely enough I saw this book and moved across the country to go to college. I google 'Silat" when I moved to Washington and found an instructor. There was a 2 day phone interview process like some weird secret ninjas and turned out the head instructor was the guy I saw in the book over 2000 miles away and then he became my teacher. At first I thought some of the movements looked silly but there were little filipino dudes in my class that could do various effortless throws on me even with me resisting and I outweighed them all by like 60lbs. I've seen some bad Silat and also some really good stuff where you would be impressed to touch hands with these people even if you have been around in the martial arts community for awhile.
Ramsay... please watch Maul565's channel, he has a excellent delivery of Silat, he also explains where the different styles and applications differ to the landscapes of where they live IE bridges, swamps etc It gives a huge dynamic to the mechanics of the system, really interesting stuff. Chintarya is just a joke to Indonesia & Pencak Silat, she turned its reputation on its head
Icy Mike made a quote that I 100% agree with and I'm paraphrasing: most people use "realism" as an excuse to not train at all. Victory is achieved when we get our asses away from call of duty and better ourselves.
Studying a Japanese martial art that has a poor reputation, but under some people who train it vastly differently from the majority of the group. So much so that they might as well be two different things. It is not easy. I liken it to trying to learn authentic Chen Taichi or authentic yoga. Starting to work against resistance with it. I do it, because I want to see if I can do it. I think it has value and I am honest about it with myself and those who choose to train with me. It is the hardest training that I have done in many ways, and I have fought nationally in one art and trained Kyokushin for a time, as well as some Muay Thai, boxing, and Judo. I appreciate your words to continue if you honestly think it has value. Martial arts are many things to many people. There are things in classical arts that go unseen and unexperienced by many. That is because there are few who can do them correctly, which is sad but true.
I love Silat! It has some of the sweetest takedowns I have ever seen. The branch I play with is extremely efficient, no wasted motion in any way, shape or form. Its simple, and specializes in messing up peoples balance so they are tripping over themselves before the actual takedown happens. So you end up not having to work very hard to throw them. Here, pick a handful of these and play with them. Use some common striking combos and entry footwork to set them up and have some fun (I bet you even see familiar techniques). ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=Silat+takedowns
Great video as always. What i like about your videos are the more intellectual discussion on topics. My take on the virtuous person idea when it comes to fighting for me is not about being a wimp with a good heart. Its about having the capability of being the villain, of being the bad guy and inflicting violence to a lethal degree but knowing to keep it in check. For example, when youve overcome an opponent and have defeated them, a virtuous person would be someone who shows them mercy or in a sporting context, lets go when they tap out.
Silat is the way of war. In the nutshell it's both MMA and HEMA, as Silat taught both bare hands fight and weapons fighting. And since it is born from war, it trains the user in war, and it's effectiveness is in war. It dealt with committed attack, not feint or duel-like. Maul Mornie perhaps explain this the best how this art is born and what it's purposes. While not ALL Silat hold same principle, I believe a huge majority of them are. ua-cam.com/video/KYwdxVq5rRY/v-deo.html
Interestingly enough after revisiting the older Mortal Kombat games I discovered that Silat is one of the fighting styles that Baraka uses in the game.
@@RamseyDewey I think that in the MK universe the fighting styles exist in each realm and the real life origin of each fighting style is not relevant which could explain why Scorpion uses Hapkido a Korean martial art despite being Japanese and Sub Zero uses Shotokan despite being Chinese.
I have practiced many martial arts, but i have never ever tried Silat, i have never seen a Silat school, and i have not tried to learnt it by myself, but i from what i've seen, it is a great martial art.
"Silat" really sensitive issue in south east. It can be a dominant status (including country neighbour) It can religion status It can be a attraction to girl It can be a symbol of clan It can be a history treasure It can be ethnic It can be pattern for business It can be sport Myth silat supposed to believe the practitioner hold agreement with mystic and used to kill people, not a street fight
In Malaysia, silat is basically just a traditional martial arts. It's can be a self defense, an art (dancing) and a sport. One of the most common type of silat is "pencak silat" and the definition of pencak is basically "rage".
Ok, this is The *correct* definition of 'pencak silat' according to a 1970's issue of The Pugilist magazine which I read. It's not "rage" or "mysticism" or "nobility" or other BS definitions. Here is the real definition: 'Pencak' is a dialect version of 'panca' i.e. short for 'panca indra' - the 5 senses. And 'silat' is basically martial art. So, in short 'pencak silat' is martial art that encompasses acute or heightened senses. That means, a 'pesilat' or silat exponent cannot be blind or, deaf (handicapped) & must be of astute mental & physical dexterity. In short, alert & warrior-like. Not sloppy like some 'gembel' hanging out at a 'warong' over coffee, nor of unsound mind. Belief in superstition & mysticism is irrational & gravitates towards unsound mental state so those who believe is such BS are not real pesilat. That includes Cynthia & her sifu, Agus. They totally need to come back to Earth, pronto.
It’s great you have a podcast. You have the perfect voice. The fact you were a professional fighter & your knowledge of fighting makes you wonder why in the hell the UFC is not ringing your phone off the hook to have you commentating on fights. Man I truly hope to see you commentating fights soon.
Ramsey Dewey. Awesome. I’m going to start looking for the organization now. I know your busy but I would like to know what is the best fight you have commentated? I have a fascination with Asian cultures. Especially Japanese culture. I’m sure fighting has taken you to Japan. Have you thought about opening a school there or just spending some time living there? I hope I get to visit Japan before my time is up. The next time your in the U.S please do a video sparring Icy Mike. Go easy on him though. His Bjj is not very good. 😏I like his channel too but your channel brings a much more philosophical mindset. You are a true martial artist, Gentleman, & Fighting Scholar.🙏🏻
Coach. I Just checked out some of the fights on UA-cam. Haven’t got to listen to your commentary but that organization has had fights featuring some straight legends in Muay Tai & Kickboxing. I’ll find the fights with English commentary on Fight TV. You should be doing commentary in Japan & especially the UFC. I can’t believe they haven’t contacted you. I hate when the UFC brings in the ESPN commentators who know nothing about MMA. Those guys are so disrespectful to the fighters. When the President of an organization doesn’t truly respect the fighters himself then things like this happen.
With respect, there are over 300 forms of Silat. I’ve a former Lt. who has years of experience in Martial Arts. He has been in multiple M.A. magazines and was hand selected by the U.S. Government for a Security Team. He has not only trained with Special Operation Forces, but has also trained Special Operations Operatives. He looks old and feeble, but is one bad dude. His preference is Silat, as well as Wing Chung. He’s one of the only people who I know with a legit Dit da jow recipe, in which he can only buy from China Town. He’s legit. I’ve learned some from him but not enough. His name is Jeff Shannon. He’s a very respectable Martial Artist.
Replying to myself. Jeff Shannon also stated that “ Shaolin “ Gong Fu is often completely useless due to the wide stances, etc... He also doesn’t like Krav Maga.
For a year ago I was very instressted to practice Pencak Silat(don't know how to pronunce it). I saw Iko Uwais movies and read alot of books. There is no Pencak Silat school here where I live, once I met a few Indonesians I asked them about learning it and they were suprised that I knew about it. But I had a feeling that they only wanna teach it to their family and relatives because Pencak Silat include many deadly techniques aswell thats how the native Indonesian and Malaysian warriors defeated the Dutch and British colonziners. I did at that time some basic Muay Thai, but I was very into Pencak Silat. I can understand Ramsey point of view, that the autentic version of the martial art might not be the same as it taught like here in the western countries, the western countries tend to be fake and unrealistic. Pencak Silat has very similar striking tecnique like Muay Thai, it include also religious and spiritual belifes.
Pencak: the e is pronounced as the e in "later", c is pronounced like "chin", a is pronounced like in "what" (so it's like cha-cha and put k at the end) Silat: pronounced see - lat (again, a as in "what".
in malaysia, you can learn any silat style as you wish, as long as you know what are you looking for and a bit of malay language. of course, there over 500++ style in malaysia but you can look for the famous and the biggest school/style like silat gayong, silat sendeng, silat gayong fatani, silat cekak/kalimah, silat lincah and silat buah pukul mersing (Johor)
I'd assume "virtuous" in this context simply relates to a high work/train-ethic... The one who is willing to train more often, more concentrated and for longer over a longer period of time, while also taking better care of his or her body.
I had 4 years silat such a nice sport i realy liked it its a shame people wanna ruine those good sport for some likes to make there selfs.l feel beter....
I actually think you really look like an Indo! That's how we call half Indonesian half Dutch people in the Netherlands. I'm an Indo myself and I must say, you have a lot of look-a-likes in my family alone haha.
according to my readings,EDDIE VAN HALEN has this background. not exactly HALF & HALF,tho he is of just such a heritage. quite possibly the most GLOBALLY acclaimed and celebrated figure in TAPPING or even GUITAR TECHNIQUES IN GENERAL...
Indo’s do train Silat frequently (at least they did in the past), i know...i still do. Sadly a lot of people, also current Indo’s have limited knowledge of Pencak Silat ;)
Do not compare, do not try to prove or convince anyone of what you feel has validity. Just fulfill your responsibility to yourself. Most won't understand your vision for your life and that's ok because they don't have to and you don't need them to. To each his own.
"The truth is not any of those extremes" that's just so true. It's not so much the art, but the way it's trained. If you don't practice fighting, you wont be any good in a fight. You have to learn how to use your basics, and apply those in a myriad of situations. The only way to get that, is to test yourself against other fighters. The more realistic (less rules) you can make the training, the better the results when you really have to defend yourself or someone else. Martial arts also doesn't have to be for fighting, but do not say what you teach is for fighting, when it isn't or hasn't been tested as thoroughly as possible.
They are legit as they train. No matter what the style. Go to Chen village and spar with some of them and tell me taichi is for old women. Silat is one of the most scientific fighting arts iv ever come across. Dan Inosonto stated that if he had to choose only one art, it would be Paul Dethours Serak. Some thing to think about. Cheers and good training!
Im Catholic but I gotta admit that soccer joke was funny, Catholics have a bit of a rivalry with Mormons because we claim to be the one true Church and so do y'all. So yeah. God bless you I do pray you come into the fullness of Truth and I would imagine you would hope the same for me.
Mormon missions here in Germany are responsible for a great numbers of their new believers loosing parenthood to their children... American missionaries come to Germany and just don't grasp that corporal punishment, even a single light hit, is illegal overhere... And they use the authority of God to make their followers disciplin their children by harming them. Off course the child-protective services know how they run. So they are on alert and ready to step in.
@RED CHUCKS no church is God, but that's a bit irrelevant to the point The point is the true Church is instituted by God. And no Calvinist, don't Pentecostal, Nondenominationals, Southern Baptist and other denominations do not make the same claim that Catholics, Orthodox, Mormons Anglicans, and Lutherans make. They rely primarily on the false doctrine of sola scriptura to form their beliefs, while coming in with the understanding of certain historically Christian beliefs such as the trinity, the hypostatic union, et cetera. Not every Church claims to be instituted by God. That's a claim very few actually make.
@@TremereTT tbh the mormons are right the Bible very clearly states "he who spares the rod hates his son. But he who his son is diligent to discipline him" Christianity does command the striking of kids to discipline them. It doesn't promote abused as seen in some of Paul's letters, but still. Now of course you don't have to agree with the Bible, if you are not a Christian, but it is the plain teaching of Scripture.
@RED CHUCKS ok... Truth cannot contradict truth tho, I fail to see how this is relevant, besides that just isn't true there is no such thing as our truths, your truth, or my truth. Those are called opinions. Truth is defined by God period.
Silat one of the best and practical art for the streets . Once the movements comes natural then knife and kali styles integrated . In other words pain is the game !!!!!
Great video! It really bothers me the amount of hate that Silat gets from the martial arts community. I was trained by the DeThoaours family and currently teach in Arkansas, we have a small group but we train hard. All this nonsense about it not working is from people who never experienced it or had a bad teacher. It's simple, Serak Silat is a striking art much like Thai boxing or any other and yes the movements might be slightly different but we focus on striking, kicking, knees, elbow, sweeps and take downs. We also spar and pressure test all we do and while we train Djurus and drills we understand that they are a textbook for learning a concept and that what works in a fight is simple and direct striking and footwork. Again, i don't understand why all the hate and many of the early Gracie standing self defense is identical to what Silat teaches. There is a lot of bs out there but I would say for people to explore this art.
silat is a way of life in indonesia and therefore contains philosophy but the art in and of itself is to take on multiple opponents . My instructor doesn't charge because Silat was not supposed to be charged for.Silat was for village against village etc. I understand US navy seals train in silat and Kali , for me thats good enough.
When I was a kid, I had a TON of bully issues. I remember watching karate kid and so I checked out books on karate and adhered to form as much as possible. My dad couldn't afford to put me in martial arts and my mom didn't put me in martial arts for reasons I can't remember. After karate books I had some sort of base and was able to fight kids who were picking on me when I was at apartments with my dad (my mom was very strict when it came to fighting). After watching some Jackie Chan movies I moved on to trying different Kung Fu styles but they were VERY difficult for me to grasp (poor excuse, I know), so I learned some principles and basics and applied that to what I had experienced. After watching movies like Rocky, I tried some boxing stuff. UA-cam was a thing when I was probably 7 years old, so that helped a lot. Keep in mind this entire time I had "pressure tested" techniques. It wasn't just me deciding I was a Kung Fu master after watching a couple of UA-cam vids and reading a book. I'd say that boxing probably helped me the most when it came to punches and foot work, Karate helped my kicks, and Kung Fu helped my blocks. I'm just saying this because that initial story of checking out martial arts books to fight against bullies really speaks to me.
"Keep pursuing the truth." Very well said, Sensei. 😁😁😊😊👊👊👏👏👏 The most virtuous one does ultimately come out on top if you understand ultimately. Thee most virtuous perseveres, doesn't allow life to destroy and cloud judgment, doesn't act impulsively and rashly, and so much more that can be said. Also, forgiveness and metamorphosis can occur in the not so virtuous one.
Well, ancient worlds believe that virtuous people will eventually wins is the reflection of their martial law mentality, where they saw the winner as the right one. In a way, it’s not really false as well though, if we saw it from certain point of view, even nowadays...because the winner essentially have the power to wrote and shaped history. So, basically what they really mean is that they are virtuous because they win.
These are the best words that I’ve heard you say. I have a renewed faith and interest in your endeavours sir. It is impossible to not be frustrated when your art is included in these blanket opinions. As you said, yes there are hundreds of styles of kung fu and the difference between the most fake or softest ‘power’, and true absolute ‘brutal’ power is immense.. impossibly immense. I love it all, but I have put my faith in Chow Gar Tong Long kung fu for a long time. Enough so that I can easily say it has more than helped me in my job, which at times can get violent. If I did compare it to other styles I have studied, it flattens them - for me. I love Silat and I know it too can be a devastating weapon in the veins of the right person, I have seen it. I share the utter gut-wrenching frustration when the issues in this clip surface and take root - they may not be able to uproot those of us who know the truth, but when you see people literally walk out and up the road to the other ‘x’ gym.. well it’s very real. It’s very sad.
Had a friend who learned Pencak Silat here in Berlin in the 1990s. They did many obscure looking traditional stuff, but also did for competition and sparring good dynamic "kickboxing" with "no punching to the head"-rule but catching legs and throwing. Funny thing was, that when I sparred with him for the first time, he really catched a round kick and swept me. :D He was also a hell of a kicker with frontkicks.
Do not get what you mean? I was on no seminar and did not have a Silat Coach. I just sparred as a (then) Kyokushin guy with a Silat Fighter and give credit to his abilities. If it was modern or traditional Silat? I do not know. But it was in the 1990s and as I said: He did a lot of traditional weird stuff and weapon training but could use his skiils also in more practical sparring.
One more thing, Ramsey. You mentioned of the silat folk belief that "the more virtuous fighter will always come out on top" as being a fallacy, right? You are absolutely correct! And I will tell you why. A short story on the legendary warrior & patriotic royal bodyguard, Hang Tuah of Malaysia. This is true History, not mere silat fantasy. The king of Malacca had accused a comrade of Hang Tuah, named Hang Jebat of treason. And sentenced the accused to death. So, Hang Tuah as the finest elite warrior to the king was sent to assassinate Hang Jebat but his rival was no slouch. The two met. Battled like their life depended on it & somehow, Hang Tuah could NOT incapacitate Jebat with all his martial arts repertoire. That was when Hang Tuah resorted to a cunning plan. He realised that Jebat's weapon, the legendary 'keris' (silat dagger) named Taming Sari is a superior weapon. So, Tuah got crafty. Abandoning his virtue & nobility, Tuah then proceeded to concede defeat to Jebat. Acknowledging the latter's superiority. Jebat, of course being the proud warrior he was lowered his defenses. Tuah then proposed a truce in which both would exchange weapons as a symbol of their duel. Jebat agreed. The moment Hang Tuah got hold of Taming Sari? *HE STABBED HIS RIVAL IN THE BACK* & that instantly killed Jebat as unlike Indonesian keris, the blade of a Malay keris is left to accumulate rust & also laced with poison. There is no virtue in combat. Only kill or be killed. Hang Tuah was not the better fighter in terms of strength but he had the smarts. He came to kill. And kill he did. By any means possible. So, yeah you are right. It is not the most virtuous fighter who comes out on top but the one who is well-trained to get the end results. Deal with it, folks. Fantasies of superhuman powers will not stop someone who is determined to bring you down. Get back to training!
My teacher was from Vietnam and he pronounced it Penkut Silat despite the Pencake spelling. It kinda resembles what I've seen of Wing Chun however it's not as spiritual as the Taoist fighting methods. The application I was taught had more closed fists and less open hand movements. I'm not an expert, he also mingled it with kali and muay Thai because his uncles and grandfather customized it to their own needs.
im a silat black belt- it has some elements that are useful. but id get killed by someone in your dojo. but i like to pretend im a badass in my imagination.
virtuous or noble(whatever), it's called "Berbudi Luhur" or "Berbudi". Silat exponent will be taught about how to berbudi. when we talked about berbudi it is not about fighting at all. it is about the way you live. when you know know the pain of got punches you won't do it to others (or you can say it to minority/helpless). there are phrases in Indonesia, for the example is "Musuh indak dicari, basuok pantang dielakkan" which means you should not make enemies, but when you face it don't run. when you berbudi you will help others in need. It's so many things if we talked about berbudi. like, you should not talk back (cursing, impolite/rude,etc) to your parents and elders, do not bully others, and many else. Silat is not only about fighting, it's a manifestation of our culture.
Words of wisdom! Excellent video! At age 55, after 43 years of martial arts training I've arrived at the conclusion that the purpose of all my training has been to develop and maintain a better version of myself. Many martial artists suffer from the "illusion of control," meaning that they think that they can beat anyone because they train and have skill. In reality, all that training does is to increase your chances of survival and/or victory over an opponent -vs, and here's the catch -versus a version of yourself that has not trained and is not skilled. That's it! No one is guaranteed victory. The desire for a guarantee, for total control, and the illusion of control, can lead martial artists, particularly inexperienced ones, to fall for the allure of easy, "snake oil salesman" solutions for self defense/fighting skills. Thus they are easy prey for the chi ball throwing gurus. The problem runs deep. The problems is that most people do not really want to learn how to fight. They just want to "feel" like they can fight. They do not want to put in years of full contact fighting, with broken bones, concussions, massive amounts of hard conditioning. They want easy, magical solutions. Thus, the snake oil gurus and the McDojos thrive while the schools that offer real training are part-time projects with 5-10 students. What, six years to get a black belt and I have to fight every black belt and brown belt in the school for my lack belt test??? Yes, and even being able to do so cannot guarantee victory in the future. It just increases your odds vs. if you had not trained like that. Most people do not want to pay that price. They prefer "illusory guarantees."
hi remsey, thanks for all Your videos my name is johnny cohen 21 years old i live in israel and i'm Training in (good) Krav Maga on the way to becoming a coach, my question is since my height is only 165 cm how am I supposed to maintain the status of a coach with people who are much taller and bigger than me, should I spar with them,I would be happy if you give me more tips on this matter,I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your point of view on coaching and martial arts, thanks again
I dont know about krav maga, but I know a bit of silat. we Indonesian are small people, 170 is our average, you even can apply to the army with 165 for male and shorter than that for female. As silat was created in Indonesia, it was a system created for small people and it is prooven to be effective by how we in some places can resist of the holand colonialism in battlefield and lose to them by trickery, triety betrial etc. maybe you can observe our technique and apply our principal to your martial arts
Silat is just like other Martial Arts as i have seen more dozen styles. I agree what you say sir. I'd been practise Chinese martial arts like Bagua & Qinna for years & yes it has a lot similar to Silat. My sifu gave me some advised, he said that there's no bad martial art of any styles in the world. It just we human being make it bad & error. Martial arts is more than a fighting method, with martial arts background we can save lives, we can solve our own problem in terms of depressions for example, we can avoid fight, if the fight can't avoid then teach them a lesson, after when we defeat them or injure them, then threat them like you are a doctor & befriend them & don't make enemies. In this millennium, the world is complex. So just stay out of trouble because we don't want to end up in jail or get murdered. There's no reason to compete in a fight. Why want to hurt people for no reason? Others didn't hurt your family. If want to compete in a right way, just go to boxing or MMA gym & find a proper coach. Thats what my sifu told me. Well its seems my sifu right about it. And Respect you sir.
in the old days, pencak silat fighters sometimes considered how certain person would feed his family if he had a broken arm or leg, so the risk of a fight always thought in broad ways, for the fighter himself or for the opponent and for ther families, especially if the opponent spoke the same language or from the same region or village, i think that is the real magic
When I was younger and heavy into aikido, I would occasionally spar with a student of penchak silat. Whatever it was, it wasn’t hokey. And the most notable thing was his awareness and use of distance. Shoutout to Alan A. of NYC. -Matt’s dad Dan
Buah = technique Why Silat works? Because you need to do the technique in lightning fast, cannot pause even a sec. Lightning fast means opponent doesn't even have time to react on you. You also need to judge by their positions, whether you can really use that particular advanced buah or not. If not, better do basic buah and back off. Which is why, in any Silat self-defense demo, they demo it rly hecking fast, as that is their main core. Silat is derived from the words "Si Kilat", means lightning fast. If you do buah and get cancelled by being attacked, either you don't do it fast enough, you're shit on judging what buah is suitable to use in that situation. Mind that you also need to exert forces while doing buah, else it was ineffective, which mean, strength training. There's a lot of interpretation and school of Silat, for example, the basic and international one is Pencak Silat, which Pencak means "panca", refers to our five senses. There's Kuntao, which means takedown, Harimau, literally means tiger in which emphasizes on sharp things such as claws, jumps and elbow strikes, Bangau Putih, literally means crane, emphasizes on balance and so on and so on.
Pencak Silat (How to pronounce) Pen = Pen (writing tool) Cak = Chuck (Chuck Norris) Si = See (look) Lat = like pronounce latte coffee (lat)te i Hope this will help
My silat teacher told us what his teacher told him " the only magic is when my fist hits their face, thats the real magic"
Haha. Nice.
He got that damn right, though then the next also aware conclusion and according action would be "let's not waste time here with Chi magic and dancing and let's go punch, kick, being practicioners of MMA, Judo, Wrestling, Boxing, Muay Thai etc, because we're exactly wasting our time with bs like this that will get us killed, with opponents being able to competently punch enough"
@@dusk6159 qi=(ki)netic energy
Moving on from that knowledge, just moving...the fist hits the wall and it shatters 🤭🙏 Is that really Silat?
@cyberpunk jutsu When you experience Chi (supposingyou have) then you will know it's phenomenon. Some do and accept is as a normality.
Chi is 'life' and with it 'energy', known as a simple chinese philosophy. It can be developed upon like common principles of westernized development because Chi is a representation for something all life has and will exhibit in every action and thought.
I've been thrown across the room with little more than a basic touch, so what. But it's principle as Chi is not touch but internally directed.
My cousin has been doing Pencak Silat since we were young, I have learned not to disrespect it during our many sparring matches.
One of my favorite quotes from “Book of Five Rings” is that Miyamoto Musashi observes that in his era of peace ( the early Edo period) the martial arts are full of charlatans. He uses a metaphor to describe this: there are always more “Flowers than Seeds”. In our modern, internet age; we think this phenomenon is new... but it is not. Fakery and McDojos have existed for as long as martial arts have been around.
Times of peace always give birth to McDojos.
Or simply, liar has always been around since the beginning of humanity.
Deceit is one of the first things in the Bible. If there’s humans, there’s lies and trickery.
To be fair mussashi also made plenty of more than likely fake claims
There are probably increasingly few McDojos in modern times due to television and internet exposing bullshido. Hence why BJJ, and MMA have been rocketing in popularity.
"Eat my magic punch!"
"That was a kick!"
"That's the magic!"
@Zentmeister I've actually seen it in the anime "akashic records of a bastard magic instructor"
😁😁😁
Once was attacked while so inebriated I could barely stand up. Long setup but NY cabdriver doesn’t want to go from Wall Street to Brooklyn. I wasn’t being disorderly but pointed out NYC law says he cannot legally turn the trip down. So he pulls me out of the cab by my tie. Being trained, I followed rather than pulling back.
Put my hand in front of his face. He didn’t notice that I was circling behind him til I had him in a naked rear choke and then continued to spin til I was balanced against the fender. Was going to drop him and walk away. But before I can finish two detectives show up with gold badges in hand. They suggest we go our separate ways and I accept their offer.
It is true that when a trained martial artist finds himself in a real situation he will instinctively go to his best training for a solution.
I came to grasp the fundamentals of drunken monkey king fu that night. Look helpless. Initiate a quick threatening move but be slow to close until you have been able to attain a stable defensive posture and leave no openings and be patient til you find the opportunity you need and can exploit to counter.
Once you grasp strategic thinking you are never in a bad spot as long as you can stand and move
- Matt’s dad
I studied a form of Silat here in America called Kuntao. I studied with a guy who was a student of the foremost practitioner of it whose name is Willem DeThouars. The art is legit. We did a number of different arts such as boxing, BJJ, Muay Thai and some Kali and Silat fit in there perfectly as a system of self defense. Like any other art out there it is made better by knowing about and practicing many different arts. The Silat was great for unbalancing opponents and creating openings that transitioned into striking and if needed there were also a number of take downs and breaking down of postures that flowed directly into Jui Jitsu. I just wanted to put this here in order to let people know that Silat is not in anyway fake or ineffective simply because one person representing the art is an idiot. And in reference to her as well I have seen some of her other videos that demonstrate solid Silat skills so I don't understand why she choose to go this direction.
She's Indonesian. Vids for fun. Expression of fun concepts pertaining to indonesia. But people there genuinely can differentiate fun from fact in this case. Unlike others elsewhere with deadbeat minds.
Dave Fleury : I’m am familiar with who you are referring to. If you read my comments, for former Lieutenant trained with his brother.
Dave Fleury : De Thaurs
Dave Fleury : Correction. The bro. of DeThauras.
@@affalee8216 I still like her vids. Maybe She should say they are for fun.
The Baguazhang classics also state “the most righteous fighter will always win.” That’s usually interpreted to mean “the person who has trained the hardest will always win.” The Confucian ideals were key back then: bravery, sincerity, benevolence.
What happened here in Indonesia with the case of Chintya Chandranaya is totally different with China with Xu Xiao Dong. Pencak Silat is well respected among the MMA community because many of our MMA champion has Pencak Silat as their basic. Even the fighters Who debunk Chintya some of them are from Pencak Silat. We also have a strong culture of competition in many rules. So, yes many of US feel ashamed with Chintya's case but it's not even close for US to question the Pencak Silat it self
You would have to be a fool to believe what was in those videos. I can look at Silat and know that it is effective.
Really? Which ones? Could you recommend me some fighters to check out? I'm not trying to troll you, I think silat looks awesome and I would love to see it in action!
Pedro kenzo I personally Like judo.
@@pedrokenzo4670 the first MMA champion from Indonesia is Aji Susilo. He has a strong Silat back ground. Another champ with strong Silat back ground and still active is Suwardi. If I dig deeper i'll find more names
@@sokonlon
No singular TMA decides
an MMA competition.
Stop using MMA matches as proof of the effectiveness of a system.
A guy's experience, stamina, heart to win, luck, overall conditioning, all play a bigger roles than any system he's come out from.
I train Silat, Muay Thai, Dutch kickboxing, and regular western boxing. I know how to make Silat work thanks to all the sparring I’ve done. I love Silat, it’s my favorite martial art of all time next to northern shaolin.
I havent done a martial art a day in my life, but ever since I started watching your videos i've been shadowboxing almost everyday in my living room 😂
Yup watching MA content is a great way to get motivated into actually getting up and doing it. I am there myself, trying to regain back the momentum I once had that I lost.
Dude that's awesome. Martial arts is a great investment of your time and money
Practicing martial arts is a good way to stay healthy. Getting into fights in da streetz is worse than ten cheezeburgerz a day.
@@josephbedwell3164 cheese burgers after training is the life
@@snazdogdbfan251 I prefer a nice big plate of crab, lobster, shrimp and steak after a workout. Gotta take in lots of protein!
So the moral of the story is just because there are some fakers and terrible martial artists out there doesn’t mean the martial art sucks as a whole, pursue the truth and you’ll be good. Ramsey Dewey taught me this, wise man.
Matt’s dad here. Started at 12, mid 70s now. Always pressure tested my way, always combined physical training with intellectual analysis and spiritual growth. Spirit leads mind, mind leads body. Yours is truly the way of constantly learning, testing and evaluation. In my mind and heart you are one of the real deals who really gets it all. Thank you, my brother from another mother. Greatest respect….
/s/ Matt’s dad
More importantly, what does Silat think of you?
#insovietrussia
Silat is just like karate, kendo, judo or other martial arts..... . Its a way of living and learn body & mental growe. Greetings from the Netherlands 🙏 OSU 🙏
Thank you very cool
Currently Silat is scattered into so many styles and schools, and almost all of them have kept different pieces of "silat puzzle" while losing a lot of others, but together they form a picture grand enough to be called "way of living", it seems to me.
Silat use weapons dude 😑😑😑
@@pepelonchas2524 you dont read it right. I say its a way of living. Old school martial arts is more than competition.
Really appreciate your open mindedness and impartial investigation. After decades it gets hard to learn new things in the arts, but you have become one of my valued sources for real and often useful martial arts information. Always feel informed as well as entertained when I watch your videos. Thank you, Ramsey and keep up the good (and principled) work.
PS all your information is useful to somebody. But I was referring to the fact I have been studying all my life and after decades it is rare that I can find new things that can have a practical application by a somewhat old man. Yours is one of the few channels where I can still learn practical improvements to what I already have learned.
/s/ Matt’s dad
Thank you!
I had a teacher who passed away, he studied Silat the old way, fit as a fiddle at his old age and when he passed away was recognized as the one of a couple teachers who learned the art traditionally (even was featured in a newspaper when he died stating this fact). No mambo jumbo of 'Batin' or magic power. We called him 'Guru utama' which means key teacher, etc. He actually scoffed at the term 'mahaguru' which means grandmaster and always refused to be called that way.
I first discovered Silat from Raid Redemption
At the time when I was watching that, I didn't know what to look at. But later one decent instructor came to us and offered to train us for a few months just to show some (well, quite a lot of) conditioning exercises and in the meantime to give an example of what Silat is generally about. Of course, you cannot learn a MA in that timeframe, but it was a really useful program (and we learned a lot of interesting things pertaining to recent history of Indonesia), and some people now train with that instructor on a regular basis.
@@JRF1004
Every 'fighting style' in movies look 'as effective as fuck'.
Even Charlie Chaplin looked
'as effective as fuck'. 🙄
@Combat Laboratory no
The first time I had heard of Silat was from the manga "History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi". There were two characters there that used it(Though the series over exaggerates it too much). It was very interesting to learn about and see how it worked. It's a shame what the image of it has become but I believe it's a good martial art worth learning or at least acknowledging.
Same with me
Lol yeah when the karate and silat master was fighting and standing on the wall ...... That was a good manga which showed a lot of TMA styles....
You should stop have a point of view from manga/anime about martial arts ...go and watch the reality
TheBanana669 I train Kickboxing and BJJ and it’s not bad to be introduced to martial art in anime/Manga since it helps people get interested in martial arts by being introduced into different arts like savate and Muay Thai
TheBanana669 These days martial arts manga and anime also try to put a lot of practical techniques as well
I had a point where I thought Silat was like the greatest martial art until I learned the reality of fighting not that it can’t be good cause it definitely can
I’d say a lot of the concepts of silat can potentially be applied to a real fight and a lot of it depends on how fast your reflexes are and how good your hand/eye coordination is. In every martial art, the most effective “moves” are the most simple ones.
This is an episode based on Silat
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Wikkow wren Yeah, not being japanese or chinese would sell well, you would think It would be some tradizional bullshido but this time legitimate and working for a martial confrontation.
@Peter Miller good comment. Think of chess, and how a chess master from over 100 years ago could easily beat most ordinary players today, but would look hopeless verses any modern chess 'master'. Every competitive fighting art needs to evolve constantly and adapt to the challenges of the times. Without that the techniques can quickly become outdated relics of a bygone age.
@Purasuchikku_Aidoru Then how come almost none of the people prior to the late 90's and the UFC trend died despite not knowing grappling? No man in existence was ever afraid of someone smothering them in close contact. They were concerned about being stabbed, shot or getting their teeth and testicles kicked in though because those are dangerous threats even to a bodybuilder while you can prevent most people from grappling you if you simply lift weights for a few years.
Been doing Silat for about six years now, what I can say is no martial art works as it meant to be unless you train yourself with it. Mental prep is a thing, but body flow is more important. Remember what Bruce Lee used to say, "I fear not of a man who studied a thousand style of kicks, but I fear those who train one kick a thousand times". It's always the training that makes an art deadly, not the idea of the art itself. Personally I used to assume Silat is ineffective until I keep a consistent training in it and carry it into sparring tournament. Most of the time without me realizing it my body has already been in the position that I needed to launch a takedown or a lock technique simply cause I train the same move everyday. So that's the keyword, train. Without that, even the simplest kickboxing would be inferior.
wow thanks Ramsey for the thoughts, that really clears things out, and totally agree there are a lot of fake silat practitioner these days here in Indonesia, and yeah it all depends of the person who practice, and all the wisdom are almost the same in all martial arts all over the world especially the traditional ones is to be more humble and some could be really deadly. usually the better the practitioners become the more humble they will be
I really enjoy some of your videos. Your opinions are always very polite, trying to be objetive, and well balanced between facts and experience. Keep on the good work.
Theres a channel called core jkd on UA-cam, where the guy uses/teaches a lot of wingchun and silat. Its pretty cool and he tries to keep it practical. He does include stuff from other styles sometimes, but wingchun and silat are his personal favorites.
A very nice words you said, We as Indonesian's and Silat practicions really appreciate it. Thankyou!
"Now get out there and train"
Such an inspiring words.
Im one of silat practitioner, What you said was right... Some of them claim they was master but bad practitioner. Sometimes we cant stick on old style need adapt with other Martial arts. Btw silat, is more mix like judo, grappling, kendo,
Silat is awesome. I like you stumbled upon it literally with your own words "Seeing a book with funny looking postures" and thought hey, this is weird..no one can fight from that position. Strangely enough I saw this book and moved across the country to go to college. I google 'Silat" when I moved to Washington and found an instructor. There was a 2 day phone interview process like some weird secret ninjas and turned out the head instructor was the guy I saw in the book over 2000 miles away and then he became my teacher. At first I thought some of the movements looked silly but there were little filipino dudes in my class that could do various effortless throws on me even with me resisting and I outweighed them all by like 60lbs. I've seen some bad Silat and also some really good stuff where you would be impressed to touch hands with these people even if you have been around in the martial arts community for awhile.
Ramsay... please watch Maul565's channel, he has a excellent delivery of Silat, he also explains where the different styles and applications differ to the landscapes of where they live IE bridges, swamps etc It gives a huge dynamic to the mechanics of the system, really interesting stuff. Chintarya is just a joke to Indonesia & Pencak Silat, she turned its reputation on its head
Once again you have my respect Ramsey. You are discerning.
Icy Mike made a quote that I 100% agree with and I'm paraphrasing: most people use "realism" as an excuse to not train at all. Victory is achieved when we get our asses away from call of duty and better ourselves.
Studying a Japanese martial art that has a poor reputation, but under some people who train it vastly differently from the majority of the group.
So much so that they might as well be two different things.
It is not easy. I liken it to trying to learn authentic Chen Taichi or authentic yoga. Starting to work against resistance with it.
I do it, because I want to see if I can do it. I think it has value and I am honest about it with myself and those who choose to train with me.
It is the hardest training that I have done in many ways, and I have fought nationally in one art and trained Kyokushin for a time, as well as some Muay Thai, boxing, and Judo.
I appreciate your words to continue if you honestly think it has value. Martial arts are many things to many people.
There are things in classical arts that go unseen and unexperienced by many. That is because there are few who can do them correctly, which is sad but true.
Ramsey "i havent heard about indonesia" Dewey
I'm learning english while watching ur video. U speak very clearly. Thank u very much
Me too
What a lovely sentiment. And beautifully articulated. Thank you.
Make contents about breaking down videos of Silat matches, Silat in MMA matches, or Silat in the movie The Raid would be very entertaining.
Its prounounce "' Penchak" , Sir..
Well, there's many ways to pronounce it tho....like in Javanese it's called pencak silat, but in Minangkabau, it's called silek ( •w•)/
@@adamdamiri4823 Agreed!!! Thanks Adam!!
Nico from DOA practices Penkac Silat. ^^
BTW am South American(Colombian) and am maybe one of the not many that aren't into soccer here. QuQ
Try the videos of Pukulan Patikaman Kuntao Silat taught by Guru Demank Ahmad. They train pretty hard core, especially with weapons.
Silat has saved my butt, silat definitely works on a street fight
I love Silat!
It has some of the sweetest takedowns I have ever seen. The branch I play with is extremely efficient, no wasted motion in any way, shape or form. Its simple, and specializes in messing up peoples balance so they are tripping over themselves before the actual takedown happens. So you end up not having to work very hard to throw them.
Here, pick a handful of these and play with them. Use some common striking combos and entry footwork to set them up and have some fun (I bet you even see familiar techniques).
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Great video as always. What i like about your videos are the more intellectual discussion on topics.
My take on the virtuous person idea when it comes to fighting for me is not about being a wimp with a good heart. Its about having the capability of being the villain, of being the bad guy and inflicting violence to a lethal degree but knowing to keep it in check. For example, when youve overcome an opponent and have defeated them, a virtuous person would be someone who shows them mercy or in a sporting context, lets go when they tap out.
Remember in UFC 2, the Silat fighter Alberto Cerra Leon vs Judo guy Remco ?
yeah
As a south American i Just wanna say that you put an smile on my mouth
i just watched your dance video and its so great to see a normally "tough" guy show his other side
Silat is the way of war. In the nutshell it's both MMA and HEMA, as Silat taught both bare hands fight and weapons fighting. And since it is born from war, it trains the user in war, and it's effectiveness is in war. It dealt with committed attack, not feint or duel-like. Maul Mornie perhaps explain this the best how this art is born and what it's purposes. While not ALL Silat hold same principle, I believe a huge majority of them are.
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yes that is my understanding also Silat is to hurt someone not have sport with them.Silat Semangat Baru
If you train a good Silat system without mystical BS in it, it's decent. I like how they set up their sweeps etc. and use them in Jiujitsu
[Reading the smudge on my palm] Ah yes the glorious martial art of...Pancake Salad?
Interestingly enough after revisiting the older Mortal Kombat games I discovered that Silat is one of the fighting styles that Baraka uses in the game.
So, the Tarkatan mutants trained in Indonesia?
@@RamseyDewey I think that in the MK universe the fighting styles exist in each realm and the real life origin of each fighting style is not relevant which could explain why Scorpion uses Hapkido a Korean martial art despite being Japanese and Sub Zero uses Shotokan despite being Chinese.
I have practiced many martial arts, but i have never ever tried Silat, i have never seen a Silat school, and i have not tried to learnt it by myself, but i from what i've seen, it is a great martial art.
Silat is dope af. I want to learn.
You are one of my favorite people, and it's a big damn planet. Keep keeping it real.
"Silat" really sensitive issue in south east.
It can be a dominant status (including country neighbour)
It can religion status
It can be a attraction to girl
It can be a symbol of clan
It can be a history treasure
It can be ethnic
It can be pattern for business
It can be sport
Myth silat supposed to believe the practitioner hold agreement with mystic and used to kill people, not a street fight
In Malaysia, silat is basically just a traditional martial arts. It's can be a self defense, an art (dancing) and a sport. One of the most common type of silat is "pencak silat" and the definition of pencak is basically "rage".
Ok, this is The *correct* definition of 'pencak silat' according to a 1970's issue of The Pugilist magazine which I read. It's not "rage" or "mysticism" or "nobility" or other BS definitions. Here is the real definition:
'Pencak' is a dialect version of 'panca' i.e. short for 'panca indra' - the 5 senses. And 'silat' is basically martial art. So, in short 'pencak silat' is martial art that encompasses acute or heightened senses. That means, a 'pesilat' or silat exponent cannot be blind or, deaf (handicapped) & must be of astute mental & physical dexterity. In short, alert & warrior-like. Not sloppy like some 'gembel' hanging out at a 'warong' over coffee, nor of unsound mind. Belief in superstition & mysticism is irrational & gravitates towards unsound mental state so those who believe is such BS are not real pesilat. That includes Cynthia & her sifu, Agus. They totally need to come back to Earth, pronto.
@@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 silat in history from Sumatra Indonesia
I have great respect for you, for who you are as a human being.
It’s great you have a podcast. You have the perfect voice. The fact you were a professional fighter & your knowledge of fighting makes you wonder why in the hell the UFC is not ringing your phone off the hook to have you commentating on fights. Man I truly hope to see you commentating fights soon.
Watch Kunlun Fight on the Fight Network. I’m the English language ringside commentator.
@@RamseyDewey MMA IS TRASH WHAT IF SOMEONE USES A KARAMBIT
Ramsey Dewey. Awesome. I’m going to start looking for the organization now. I know your busy but I would like to know what is the best fight you have commentated? I have a fascination with Asian cultures. Especially Japanese culture. I’m sure fighting has taken you to Japan. Have you thought about opening a school there or just spending some time living there? I hope I get to visit Japan before my time is up. The next time your in the U.S please do a video sparring Icy Mike. Go easy on him though. His Bjj is not very good. 😏I like his channel too but your channel brings a much more philosophical mindset. You are a true martial artist, Gentleman, & Fighting Scholar.🙏🏻
Coach. I Just checked out some of the fights on UA-cam. Haven’t got to listen to your commentary but that organization has had fights featuring some straight legends in Muay Tai & Kickboxing. I’ll find the fights with English commentary on Fight TV. You should be doing commentary in Japan & especially the UFC. I can’t believe they haven’t contacted you. I hate when the UFC brings in the ESPN commentators who know nothing about MMA. Those guys are so disrespectful to the fighters. When the President of an organization doesn’t truly respect the fighters himself then things like this happen.
With respect, there are over 300 forms of Silat. I’ve a former Lt. who has years of experience in Martial Arts. He has been in multiple M.A. magazines and was hand selected by the U.S. Government for a Security Team. He has not only trained with Special Operation Forces, but has also trained Special Operations Operatives. He looks old and feeble, but is one bad dude. His preference is Silat, as well as Wing Chung. He’s one of the only people who I know with a legit Dit da jow recipe, in which he can only buy from China Town. He’s legit. I’ve learned some from him but not enough. His name is Jeff Shannon. He’s a very respectable Martial Artist.
Replying to myself. Jeff Shannon also stated that “ Shaolin “ Gong Fu is often completely useless due to the wide stances, etc... He also doesn’t like Krav Maga.
For a year ago I was very instressted to practice Pencak Silat(don't know how to pronunce it). I saw Iko Uwais movies and read alot of books. There is no Pencak Silat school here where I live, once I met a few Indonesians I asked them about learning it and they were suprised that I knew about it. But I had a feeling that they only wanna teach it to their family and relatives because Pencak Silat include many deadly techniques aswell thats how the native Indonesian and Malaysian warriors defeated the Dutch and British colonziners. I did at that time some basic Muay Thai, but I was very into Pencak Silat. I can understand Ramsey point of view, that the autentic version of the martial art might not be the same as it taught like here in the western countries, the western countries tend to be fake and unrealistic. Pencak Silat has very similar striking tecnique like Muay Thai, it include also religious and spiritual belifes.
Pencak: the e is pronounced as the e in "later", c is pronounced like "chin", a is pronounced like in "what" (so it's like cha-cha and put k at the end)
Silat: pronounced see - lat (again, a as in "what".
in malaysia, you can learn any silat style as you wish, as long as you know what are you looking for and a bit of malay language. of course, there over 500++ style in malaysia but you can look for the famous and the biggest school/style like silat gayong, silat sendeng, silat gayong fatani, silat cekak/kalimah, silat lincah and silat buah pukul mersing (Johor)
@@makingmilliondi Malay hanya ada 150 aliran silat saja
Kebanyakan silat di Malaysia itu dari Indonesia....
I'd assume "virtuous" in this context simply relates to a high work/train-ethic... The one who is willing to train more often, more concentrated and for longer over a longer period of time, while also taking better care of his or her body.
Or it could imply that the one who isn't an A-hole is less likely to be a subject of revenge from a clan or stays out of jail.
The Raid Movies were my introduction to the art.
I had 4 years silat such a nice sport i realy liked it its a shame people wanna ruine those good sport for some likes to make there selfs.l feel beter....
I actually think you really look like an Indo! That's how we call half Indonesian half Dutch people in the Netherlands. I'm an Indo myself and I must say, you have a lot of look-a-likes in my family alone haha.
I've heard indo are good at kicking because their indo-knees
according to my readings,EDDIE VAN HALEN has this background. not exactly HALF & HALF,tho he is of just such a heritage. quite possibly the most GLOBALLY acclaimed and celebrated figure in TAPPING or even GUITAR TECHNIQUES IN GENERAL...
Indo’s do train Silat frequently (at least they did in the past), i know...i still do. Sadly a lot of people, also current Indo’s have limited knowledge of Pencak Silat ;)
Do not compare, do not try to prove or convince anyone of what you feel has validity. Just fulfill your responsibility to yourself. Most won't understand your vision for your life and that's ok because they don't have to and you don't need them to. To each his own.
"The truth is not any of those extremes" that's just so true. It's not so much the art, but the way it's trained. If you don't practice fighting, you wont be any good in a fight. You have to learn how to use your basics, and apply those in a myriad of situations. The only way to get that, is to test yourself against other fighters. The more realistic (less rules) you can make the training, the better the results when you really have to defend yourself or someone else. Martial arts also doesn't have to be for fighting, but do not say what you teach is for fighting, when it isn't or hasn't been tested as thoroughly as possible.
Headcanon that Dewey does a take where he says locomotive instead of train.
They are legit as they train. No matter what the style. Go to Chen village and spar with some of them and tell me taichi is for old women. Silat is one of the most scientific fighting arts iv ever come across. Dan Inosonto stated that if he had to choose only one art, it would be Paul Dethours Serak. Some thing to think about. Cheers and good training!
Im Catholic but I gotta admit that soccer joke was funny, Catholics have a bit of a rivalry with Mormons because we claim to be the one true Church and so do y'all. So yeah. God bless you I do pray you come into the fullness of Truth and I would imagine you would hope the same for me.
Mormon missions here in Germany are responsible for a great numbers of their new believers loosing parenthood to their children...
American missionaries come to Germany and just don't grasp that corporal punishment, even a single light hit, is illegal overhere... And they use the authority of God to make their followers disciplin their children by harming them.
Off course the child-protective services know how they run. So they are on alert and ready to step in.
@RED CHUCKS no church is God, but that's a bit irrelevant to the point The point is the true Church is instituted by God. And no Calvinist, don't Pentecostal, Nondenominationals, Southern Baptist and other denominations do not make the same claim that Catholics, Orthodox, Mormons Anglicans, and Lutherans make. They rely primarily on the false doctrine of sola scriptura to form their beliefs, while coming in with the understanding of certain historically Christian beliefs such as the trinity, the hypostatic union, et cetera. Not every Church claims to be instituted by God. That's a claim very few actually make.
@@TremereTT tbh the mormons are right the Bible very clearly states "he who spares the rod hates his son. But he who his son is diligent to discipline him" Christianity does command the striking of kids to discipline them. It doesn't promote abused as seen in some of Paul's letters, but still. Now of course you don't have to agree with the Bible, if you are not a Christian, but it is the plain teaching of Scripture.
@RED CHUCKS ok... Truth cannot contradict truth tho, I fail to see how this is relevant, besides that just isn't true there is no such thing as our truths, your truth, or my truth. Those are called opinions. Truth is defined by God period.
Germany just keeps getting gayer and gayer.
Silat one of the best and practical art for the streets . Once the movements comes natural then knife and kali styles integrated . In other words pain is the game !!!!!
I think silat is just a Traditional version of MMA. I mean, they have almost Everything just like mma.
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@@rifarira9160 silat is bullshit
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Orang indo ya awokwokwok
Great video! It really bothers me the amount of hate that Silat gets from the martial arts community. I was trained by the DeThoaours family and currently teach in Arkansas, we have a small group but we train hard. All this nonsense about it not working is from people who never experienced it or had a bad teacher. It's simple, Serak Silat is a striking art much like Thai boxing or any other and yes the movements might be slightly different but we focus on striking, kicking, knees, elbow, sweeps and take downs. We also spar and pressure test all we do and while we train Djurus and drills we understand that they are a textbook for learning a concept and that what works in a fight is simple and direct striking and footwork. Again, i don't understand why all the hate and many of the early Gracie standing self defense is identical to what Silat teaches. There is a lot of bs out there but I would say for people to explore this art.
silat is a way of life in indonesia and therefore contains philosophy but the art in and of itself is to take on multiple opponents . My instructor doesn't charge because Silat was not supposed to be charged for.Silat was for village against village etc. I understand US navy seals train in silat and Kali , for me thats good enough.
When I was a kid, I had a TON of bully issues. I remember watching karate kid and so I checked out books on karate and adhered to form as much as possible. My dad couldn't afford to put me in martial arts and my mom didn't put me in martial arts for reasons I can't remember. After karate books I had some sort of base and was able to fight kids who were picking on me when I was at apartments with my dad (my mom was very strict when it came to fighting). After watching some Jackie Chan movies I moved on to trying different Kung Fu styles but they were VERY difficult for me to grasp (poor excuse, I know), so I learned some principles and basics and applied that to what I had experienced. After watching movies like Rocky, I tried some boxing stuff. UA-cam was a thing when I was probably 7 years old, so that helped a lot. Keep in mind this entire time I had "pressure tested" techniques. It wasn't just me deciding I was a Kung Fu master after watching a couple of UA-cam vids and reading a book. I'd say that boxing probably helped me the most when it came to punches and foot work, Karate helped my kicks, and Kung Fu helped my blocks. I'm just saying this because that initial story of checking out martial arts books to fight against bullies really speaks to me.
Ramsey has a very nuanced and insightful balance between realism and the avoidance of cynicism.
Hey ramsey you must see "pencak dor" it is traditional Indonesian version of MMA
"Keep pursuing the truth." Very well said, Sensei. 😁😁😊😊👊👊👏👏👏 The most virtuous one does ultimately come out on top if you understand ultimately. Thee most virtuous perseveres, doesn't allow life to destroy and cloud judgment, doesn't act impulsively and rashly, and so much more that can be said. Also, forgiveness and metamorphosis can occur in the not so virtuous one.
Well, ancient worlds believe that virtuous people will eventually wins is the reflection of their martial law mentality, where they saw the winner as the right one. In a way, it’s not really false as well though, if we saw it from certain point of view, even nowadays...because the winner essentially have the power to wrote and shaped history. So, basically what they really mean is that they are virtuous because they win.
this man is a god damn philospher
proud with Silat as our nation heritage and our martial arts identity.
These are the best words that I’ve heard you say. I have a renewed faith and interest in your endeavours sir. It is impossible to not be frustrated when your art is included in these blanket opinions. As you said, yes there are hundreds of styles of kung fu and the difference between the most fake or softest ‘power’, and true absolute ‘brutal’ power is immense.. impossibly immense.
I love it all, but I have put my faith in Chow Gar Tong Long kung fu for a long time. Enough so that I can easily say it has more than helped me in my job, which at times can get violent. If I did compare it to other styles I have studied, it flattens them - for me. I love Silat and I know it too can be a devastating weapon in the veins of the right person, I have seen it.
I share the utter gut-wrenching frustration when the issues in this clip surface and take root - they may not be able to uproot those of us who know the truth, but when you see people literally walk out and up the road to the other ‘x’ gym.. well it’s very real. It’s very sad.
Ramsey is the chillest fighter ive ever seen
I love "Pancake Salad"
There's no magic..but the spiritual elements there is..plus the brutal training..if you practice the traditional way
Hi Ramsey
Yo!
I believe it’s pronounced ‘Pen-chok’
Had a friend who learned Pencak Silat here in Berlin in the 1990s. They did many obscure looking traditional stuff, but also did for competition and sparring good dynamic "kickboxing" with "no punching to the head"-rule but catching legs and throwing.
Funny thing was, that when I sparred with him for the first time, he really catched a round kick and swept me. :D
He was also a hell of a kicker with frontkicks.
Do not get what you mean? I was on no seminar and did not have a Silat Coach.
I just sparred as a (then) Kyokushin guy with a Silat Fighter and give credit to his abilities. If it was modern or traditional Silat? I do not know. But it was in the 1990s and as I said: He did a lot of traditional weird stuff and weapon training but could use his skiils also in more practical sparring.
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@@thepunishersequence291, ah. Do as you like. I do not see a thread. :D
Well said! Thank you!
One more thing, Ramsey. You mentioned of the silat folk belief that "the more virtuous fighter will always come out on top" as being a fallacy, right? You are absolutely correct! And I will tell you why. A short story on the legendary warrior & patriotic royal bodyguard, Hang Tuah of Malaysia. This is true History, not mere silat fantasy.
The king of Malacca had accused a comrade of Hang Tuah, named Hang Jebat of treason. And sentenced the accused to death. So, Hang Tuah as the finest elite warrior to the king was sent to assassinate Hang Jebat but his rival was no slouch. The two met. Battled like their life depended on it & somehow, Hang Tuah could NOT incapacitate Jebat with all his martial arts repertoire. That was when Hang Tuah resorted to a cunning plan.
He realised that Jebat's weapon, the legendary 'keris' (silat dagger) named Taming Sari is a superior weapon. So, Tuah got crafty. Abandoning his virtue & nobility, Tuah then proceeded to concede defeat to Jebat. Acknowledging the latter's superiority. Jebat, of course being the proud warrior he was lowered his defenses. Tuah then proposed a truce in which both would exchange weapons as a symbol of their duel. Jebat agreed. The moment Hang Tuah got hold of Taming Sari?
*HE STABBED HIS RIVAL IN THE BACK* & that instantly killed Jebat as unlike Indonesian keris, the blade of a Malay keris is left to accumulate rust & also laced with poison.
There is no virtue in combat. Only kill or be killed. Hang Tuah was not the better fighter in terms of strength but he had the smarts. He came to kill. And kill he did. By any means possible. So, yeah you are right. It is not the most virtuous fighter who comes out on top but the one who is well-trained to get the end results. Deal with it, folks. Fantasies of superhuman powers will not stop someone who is determined to bring you down. Get back to training!
The c in pencak is pronounced like c from change and the pen is pronounced like pen
Nope. Not 'pen' but 'pn' = 'pn-chuck' not 'pen-check' silat.
@@Z4U3398 pn and pen (in Pen) is just dialec differentiation.
you can say pen-chuck or pn-chuck (for pencak silat, its the same meaning.
You should react The Raid fight scenes, it's an Indonesian Silat movie
The ‘movie’ part of that is an important detail
My teacher was from Vietnam and he pronounced it Penkut Silat despite the Pencake spelling. It kinda resembles what I've seen of Wing Chun however it's not as spiritual as the Taoist fighting methods. The application I was taught had more closed fists and less open hand movements. I'm not an expert, he also mingled it with kali and muay Thai because his uncles and grandfather customized it to their own needs.
Very short and highly informative video , Please continue making such type of videos Coach Ramsey 🤓🤓😝😝👍👍👌👌
im a silat black belt- it has some elements that are useful. but id get killed by someone in your dojo. but i like to pretend im a badass in my imagination.
Best comment. lol
🙏 thank you
virtuous or noble(whatever), it's called "Berbudi Luhur" or "Berbudi". Silat exponent will be taught about how to berbudi. when we talked about berbudi it is not about fighting at all. it is about the way you live. when you know know the pain of got punches you won't do it to others (or you can say it to minority/helpless). there are phrases in Indonesia, for the example is "Musuh indak dicari, basuok pantang dielakkan" which means you should not make enemies, but when you face it don't run. when you berbudi you will help others in need. It's so many things if we talked about berbudi. like, you should not talk back (cursing, impolite/rude,etc) to your parents and elders, do not bully others, and many else. Silat is not only about fighting, it's a manifestation of our culture.
No one martial art style is greater than an another. Only one warrior is greater than the other.
Words of wisdom! Excellent video! At age 55, after 43 years of martial arts training I've arrived at the conclusion that the purpose of all my training has been to develop and maintain a better version of myself. Many martial artists suffer from the "illusion of control," meaning that they think that they can beat anyone because they train and have skill. In reality, all that training does is to increase your chances of survival and/or victory over an opponent -vs, and here's the catch -versus a version of yourself that has not trained and is not skilled. That's it! No one is guaranteed victory. The desire for a guarantee, for total control, and the illusion of control, can lead martial artists, particularly inexperienced ones, to fall for the allure of easy, "snake oil salesman" solutions for self defense/fighting skills. Thus they are easy prey for the chi ball throwing gurus. The problem runs deep. The problems is that most people do not really want to learn how to fight. They just want to "feel" like they can fight. They do not want to put in years of full contact fighting, with broken bones, concussions, massive amounts of hard conditioning. They want easy, magical solutions. Thus, the snake oil gurus and the McDojos thrive while the schools that offer real training are part-time projects with 5-10 students. What, six years to get a black belt and I have to fight every black belt and brown belt in the school for my lack belt test??? Yes, and even being able to do so cannot guarantee victory in the future. It just increases your odds vs. if you had not trained like that. Most people do not want to pay that price. They prefer "illusory guarantees."
hi remsey, thanks for all Your videos my name is johnny cohen 21 years old i live in israel and i'm Training in (good) Krav Maga on the way to becoming a coach,
my question is since my height is only 165 cm how am I supposed to maintain the status of a coach with people who are much taller and bigger than me, should I spar with them,I would be happy if you give me more tips on this matter,I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your point of view on coaching and martial arts, thanks again
I dont know about krav maga, but I know a bit of silat. we Indonesian are small people, 170 is our average, you even can apply to the army with 165 for male and shorter than that for female. As silat was created in Indonesia, it was a system created for small people and it is prooven to be effective by how we in some places can resist of the holand colonialism in battlefield and lose to them by trickery, triety betrial etc. maybe you can observe our technique and apply our principal to your martial arts
Silat is just like other Martial Arts as i have seen more dozen styles. I agree what you say sir. I'd been practise Chinese martial arts like Bagua & Qinna for years & yes it has a lot similar to Silat. My sifu gave me some advised, he said that there's no bad martial art of any styles in the world. It just we human being make it bad & error. Martial arts is more than a fighting method, with martial arts background we can save lives, we can solve our own problem in terms of depressions for example, we can avoid fight, if the fight can't avoid then teach them a lesson, after when we defeat them or injure them, then threat them like you are a doctor & befriend them & don't make enemies. In this millennium, the world is complex. So just stay out of trouble because we don't want to end up in jail or get murdered. There's no reason to compete in a fight. Why want to hurt people for no reason? Others didn't hurt your family. If want to compete in a right way, just go to boxing or MMA gym & find a proper coach. Thats what my sifu told me. Well its seems my sifu right about it. And Respect you sir.
in the old days, pencak silat fighters sometimes considered how certain person would feed his family if he had a broken arm or leg, so the risk of a fight always thought in broad ways, for the fighter himself or for the opponent and for ther families, especially if the opponent spoke the same language or from the same region or village, i think that is the real magic
When I was younger and heavy into aikido, I would occasionally spar with a student of penchak silat.
Whatever it was, it wasn’t hokey. And the most notable thing was his awareness and use of distance. Shoutout to Alan A. of NYC.
-Matt’s dad Dan
super jenius human and super skilled human are rare..thats the law of nature...
Elements of the many styles of Silat can be seriously powerful.
Buah = technique
Why Silat works? Because you need to do the technique in lightning fast, cannot pause even a sec. Lightning fast means opponent doesn't even have time to react on you. You also need to judge by their positions, whether you can really use that particular advanced buah or not. If not, better do basic buah and back off. Which is why, in any Silat self-defense demo, they demo it rly hecking fast, as that is their main core. Silat is derived from the words "Si Kilat", means lightning fast. If you do buah and get cancelled by being attacked, either you don't do it fast enough, you're shit on judging what buah is suitable to use in that situation. Mind that you also need to exert forces while doing buah, else it was ineffective, which mean, strength training.
There's a lot of interpretation and school of Silat, for example, the basic and international one is Pencak Silat, which Pencak means "panca", refers to our five senses. There's Kuntao, which means takedown, Harimau, literally means tiger in which emphasizes on sharp things such as claws, jumps and elbow strikes, Bangau Putih, literally means crane, emphasizes on balance and so on and so on.
Pencak Silat
(How to pronounce)
Pen = Pen (writing tool)
Cak = Chuck (Chuck Norris)
Si = See (look)
Lat = like pronounce latte coffee (lat)te
i Hope this will help