Why wasn't John Paul Jones invited to take a part of Led Zeppelin's reunion
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2023
- Why didn't they invite John Paul Jones for the Page - Plant "Reunion"
Jimmy Page pushed for a reunion for years. Plant has said the reason he could play with Page but not Jones was because him and Jimmy could make something that didn't sound or feel like a Led Zeppelin project, But the instant that JPJ joined in it immediately felt like a Zeppelin project, And it was too hard for him.
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John paul jones ( john Baldwin) was zepps secret weapon ( in my opinion) he was a great bass player, organ/ piano player, mandolin... He wrote interesting and different arangements
Yep.. look at what he's done since Led Zep and compare that to what the others have done ... JImmy Page hasn't done ANYTHING interesting .. JPJ is still creating.
@@MahaGraphicsbecause page is bullshite. Page is or was a rock star. John Paul is a musician. There's a difference. Page is no musician. Zeppelin were Rock Stars, collage artist, nothing more. John Paul is one of my favourites. 💯👍🏻 I'm glad he's working still he's so prolific.
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JPJ's entire musical career has been phenomenal, pre LZ, during LZ and post LZ. IMO John Paul Jones is the greatest Bassist in Rock history.
So.....JPJ wasn't into drugs and underage "baby groupies."
My respect for him just exploded.
Royal Orleans lyrics see him in a very different light
I'm sure he did drugs.. nothing like heroin butt Coke, pot maybe a pill here and there?? I mean he's not a monk😅or maybe he was I don't know. Who cares he was the best out of them. I've always liked him, great musician.
@@moreblacknot just him...the whole band hung out in gay bars in new Orleans. Isn't that what the song is about?? some bloke who picks up a drag queen and finds it out that it's a man..
Pretty much most groupies were high school girls - and most bands indulged. Just how it was back then.
can you virtue signal a little harder? not sure all the bluechecks on twitter heard you...🤡
JPJ is literally one of the most talented musician to ever walk this planet & kudos to Plant for getting on his hands & knees & begging John's forgiveness
truee true
True, that was very good of him to do so.
As good as the No Quarter project was, Plant must’ve seen that they’re not nearly the same without JPJ.
I seriously doubt Plant begged John Baldwin for anything, considering that asshole along with Page and Peter Grant couldn't be bothered to show up at the funeral for Karac Plant !
FUCK "John Paul Jones"!
I didn’t realize that JPJ and the others weren’t really friendly with each other. But then again, we all end up working with people that we don’t socialize with outside of work. Most of us just don’t become millionaires doing it. Personally I’ve always thought JPJ had the perfect rock star life. A key member of one of the biggest bands in history who could walk down the street unrecognized by 95% of the world. Sounds great to me.
they were, this video is just reaching for an issue. It was page and plant not Led Zep.
@@promark5317 still played zep.matterial.also name us basedvon jpj song.
Paige and Plant were always friends. Bonham just went out of control really.
@@Stabby666 Ah yes, Paige, the unknown fifth member of Zeppelin...
@@IAmLookingForwardToDeath thanks Mr Snarky pants 🤣
Jones has commented that he partied pretty damn hard but that he didn't put himself in compromising situations. It's true that he was by far the wisest member of the band.
Pretty sure I read in a LZ book that once they all had to go downstairs because of a fire in the hotel and that JPJ was seen with a transvestite that night. Pretty wild.
A very Happy 78th Birthday John Paul Jones. Born John Richard Baldwin. January 3, 1946. Sidcup, U.K. He's never had a rock star persona. Instead, he's soft spoken, shy and has always been modest when it comes to Zep's influence on modern rock music. Cheers mate and many more..
Without JPJ you have no LZ. Jones was the glue that held it all together. Simply put, JPJ is and was the best overall musician hands down.
Equally there is no Zep without Page.....or Plant......or Bonham.
@@badgeholderdave 💯 agree but I believe jones kept it all together
@@scottlewis8386 he did, watch the live vids.
100%
All four were top five in there individual instruments and JPJ’s wrote many good pieces like Black Dog but when Jimmy and Bohnam were in the throws of addiction Robert and John Baldwin were responsible for ITTOD and the production was awful,I like Coda better!
Bottom line
Without one they are none
Takes a strong personality to be your own man and not run with the pack..........Good for him.
No Zepp without each member . Without each other there was no Zepp.
Technically that's not true.
They played several times since Bonham died & were billed as 'Led Zeppelin'.
He's been dead for almost 44 years now & the other three only live once like the rest of us so I think packing it in & never touring again was a sad way to handle things.
Instead they play with people like Alison Krauss & David Coverdale at times but mostly do nothing?
What a waste.
In other words, Jones was the Charlie Watts of Zeppelin.
You wrong, Charlie Watts was the Jones of Rolling Stones.
@@fredbrad YOU FUNNY
jpj was the heart of the band. they were dicks to him
Went to see King Crimson at the last minute not knowing jones was the opening act, he blew them away
I love when that happens lol. I saw tame impala opening for the flaming lips and the exact same thing happened
@@promark5317 or as Bob Ross would say " Happy little accidents"
Fripp has gone insane in the last decade or two. Not the man he was.
I saw that concert, too, in DC at the Warner Theater. I agree. Crim phoned it in that night. (Fortunately, I've seen 'em 10 other times.)
@@BeatlesBowieKrimsonWhat year was that?
There is no excuse for excluding JPJ. JPJ is talented beyond belief and could have played any way they asked him to. That is BS about those two are ok and don't sound like LZ (really) even with Roberts voice? I don't buy it. It was just plain rude and mean and unforgivable to intentionally exclude JPJ. JPJ was and had every right to be extremely hurt. I think he eventually forgave them but that is only because he is the smart one and the kinder one of the three, which they obviously never appreciated to treat him the way they did.
John Paul Jones always seemed like an outsider with Led Zeppelin...
Robert and John Bonham, both already friends from the Midlands, it was said you couldn't fit a piece of toilet paper between them. Page and JP were ex session musicians.
I don't think any other band did such a perfect job of keeping their bass and keyboard player invisible throughout the band's career
Which exactly what Jones wanted
Maybe Gern Blanston of The White Stripes.
KISS
IronMaiden
ThePolice
@@CleofasRivas-jn9xzMaiden?
The Smiths
No Quarter is one of my all time favorites!
My 24 year old son has just got into LZ on the back of that song!
John Paul Jones was always my favourite band member .Call it human intuition. This video proved me right.
There was always that rumor of Page and his black magic stuff he was into and it was Page, Plant, and Bonham sold their souls to the devil and JPJ did not want anything to do it - at least that was the rumor in High School ... haha Probably came about with Page and his warlock costume he would wear on stage and his interest the occult world.
@@mamothcar1 yes, Jimmy Page was really into that kind of stuff, Jimmy is big fan of Aleister Crowley, openly join Crowley's cult wearing sigil whatever, even bought Aleister Crowley's house (Boleskine House) where Crowley often performed rituals, and there was 2 kids found dead there, one of them is Crowley's son and the other is the housekeper's daughter. Jimmy even made soundstrack songs for a satanic movie in that house, somehow the project was failed, Jimmy feud with the movie producer were said to be the start of curse that led many tragedies to Led Zeppelin. There was also stiry about one of girl from LZ's groupies, forget her name, got a sigil symbol from Jimmy, and months later she's fallen from a stairs and died.
I just watched a video about Jimmy entusiasm to occult and magic since he was a kid, and yea allegedly Jimmy tried to perform a particular magic ritual that Crowley often performed. Unfortunately, 3 stoner (Jones refused to get involved and gtfo) performing some magic ritual is really bad idea.
And yep, just search about Led Zeppelin's baby groupies. You can easily found about Lori Mattix (or Lori Maddox) story on UA-cam.
It was Robert Plant that didn't want John Paul Jones to join him and Jimmy page. Plant said it would be like getting Led Zeppelin together. Jimmy Page wanted Jones to join
Plant also seemed snarky toward Jason Bonham.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for JPJ. For his extensive session work during the 60's. For being the best Bassist in Rock history. For his tolerance and patience during his time with Led Zep especially the "non invite" period. John Paul Jones maturity and behavior during the LZ years reminds me of the late Charlies Watts. At the time of his passing (2021) Charlie was happily married for 57 years.
Jones was in a big way responsible for the melodies of LZ.
Not really. Riffs were 90% Page and vocals melodies Plant. Black Dog, No Quarter and a lot on In Through the Out Door were JPJ....that's about it.
@TheRoomfull nope John paul jones was very responsible for zeppelin the bass on ramble on, the piano on kashmir
@staysolid19 piano on Kashmir??? Lol you high or just ignorant??
@@TheRoomfull If you believe that you really don't know much about them or their music.
@@dorothyburry42 Lol look at the songwriting credits goofball.
You need to change the title of this video. Jones was not invited when Page and Plant reunited in the 90's. He obviously was invited when Led Zeppelin reformed for the one off show in 2007.
John Paul Jones is soooo underrated not only a great bass player but keyboard player also
Jones was the most competent member of LZ
This paints John Paul Jones' friendship with the others in a grim light. They were all friends, and all considered each other as friends, and as we know, in a group of friends, feelings ebb and flow. While it's true JPJ didn't partake in ALL of the partying, he DID party. This clip fails to mention the incident when JPJ nearly burnt down a New Orleans Hotel as a side effect of his type of partying. There's also stories of JPJ holding court playing on a full-sized organ installed in Led Zep's various custom jet planes. This clip also fails to mention his sometimes dismissive, sardonic and sarcastic wit, which at times was off-putting to the others. Or that he threatened to quit after the Houses of The Holy Tour. Or that Page relied on him as the "music theorist" of the band to help him flesh out "Stairway," "Kashmir" and "Achilles Last Stand." Or that he and Plant worked intensely to write most of the material for Led Zeppelin's last album, In Through The Out Door. Or that when Plant finished his first solo album and presented it to Jones, Jones responded coldly that he thought Plant "could do better." Still they all called him Jonesy. We all have a friend like that.
Ok now I think JPJ is autistic. What you describe plus his talent? Might very well be
I'd take that over the pedophilic tendencies of the rest of the band but I'm interested to hear if he was also involved in that
Page said that if Plant and Jones had wrote most of the music to ITTOD, they would have gotten production credit.
But I do understand why he wanted to quit. They would be on the road for almost 2 years straight! Seriously. From 1968 to 1970 they did a straight 2 years. Then they took a 6 month break or so, and then from 1971 to 1973 they did that two year thing again. And he had had enough of that.
But it does tell you his power in the band.
Because they never toured like that again after he threatened to quit because of it.
Wow never knew that. Much respect for him and Robert plant for the respect he showed him
Love the band! My favourite..Sorry to hear this about John Paul Jones..
Bonham suffered from depression (manic most likely).
Also a family man, he hated being away from his family all the time,
but the pressures of the money to pay the bills and to keep obligations kept him at it.
but he was also an alcoholic, and from what many have said, a somewhat angry alcoholic, who liked to start trouble and fight, possibly a result of being depressed and missing his family?
Eventually it all destroyed him.
Very sad.
The reason page didn't eat food and did heroin.
He also beat people up for fun,kind of a douce bag.
@@rustygoldfanatic8830 He also got his dumbass stomped more than was allowed to be put out there... PPL don't like their "hero's" images tainted after all...
I do agree that JPJ was not involved in most of the shenanigans of the rest of the band members but in "Hammer of the Gods" it does clearly state that he was involved in some antics such as the shark incident. I think the real reason Page and Plant ignored JPJ post Zeppelin was jealousy and insecurity. JPJ was the bigesst session player in Britain when it came to bass, organ, arranging etc. and Page was the biggest session player in Britain when it came to guitar. They played together as session players on many albums. I have read that they played together on over 50 different albums.Plant and Bonham in contrast were country bumpkins from the Midlands who were nobody amateurs before Page and JPJ found them.I think that both Bonham and especially Plant were intimidated by JPJ's reputation, abilities, and professionalism. I believe Page was jealous and probably put off in that he could not manipulate, intimidate, or control JPJ like he did Bonham and Plant. Just think about this for a second; JPJ was the arranger for the band and the only arranger they ever had. The biggest reason their songs sound like they do is because of JPJ's arranging. Due to Page's extreme heroin addiction and also Plant and Bonhams drug and alcohol problems "In Through the Outdoor" is essentially JPJ's albums. He saved the album and the band and was it's de facto leader at that time. Also, consider this; it is well known that Bonzo never pulled his drunken rage BS on JPJ. I think he was actually in awe of JPJ and they formed what I believe is the heaviest rhythm section the world has ever known. That driving bass and drums was the foundation of everythin Zeppelin did. They worked brilliantly together. Don't think for a second that Plant and especially Page didn't know that.
JPJ was able to (mischievously) manipulate Bonzo. When Page was stressed, Jonesy would tell Bonzo to scare him with loud noises, like hitting the crash too hard, popping a balloon, or something like that. Bonham and Jonesy ended up laughing together behind Page.
Even Jones was the only one in the band who told him when he didn't like his drum session. (which no one, not even Plant, dared to tell him) In the song D'yer Mak'er, he hated the rhythm, he told Bonzo that the melody was bad and that not even his drums could save it. Bonzo ended up hating the song too.
*He was the first to prohibit Bonzo from using the double bass drum pedal.
Don't rely too heavily on 'Hammer of the Gods'.
Es importante recordar que a JPJ no le molestó en absoluto que no contasen con él. De hecho, cuando supo que sus dos colegas estaban embarcados en un nuevo proyecto les deseó lo mejor públicamente (leí sus declaraciones). Lo que realmente disgustó a Jones fue aquella grabación para la MTV en la que tocaron varios temas de Led Zeppelin... unos temas que son tan suyos como de los otros dos. Incluso el disco lleva el título de un tema de JPJ (No Quarter). Luego se ofendió por un comentario de Plant en una rueda de prensa pero aquello fue anecdótico. La auténtica faena fue lo otro. Se enfadó con razón.
no JPJ, no ZEP.
Page and Plant would agree.
No any member, no Zep
Without Jones’s prodigal instincts and immense contributions to this act, the dirigible surly would NOT have gained its famed cruising altitude. I like to fun with un-seasoned Zeppelin fans, younger Zeppelin fans who have no clue. I’d tell them that; Zeppelin toured with choirmaster organist, composer, first-call session bassist, multi instrumentalist and arranger. They of course would ask “who’s that?” Then I’d reveal his name.
These comments are full of normies who think Mothership was an original album lol. 🤣 (not you homie i see your comments on LZ boots all the time.)
@@promark5317 10-4 brother.
JPJ is my hero! And I always wondered if he was part of the craziness. I love him even more now! 🙏♥️🥰😘
Jones could play just about every instrument, and he was a talented arranger, producer and song writer. He started contributing these skills more on Physical Graffiti and basically wrote and produced all of In Through the Out Door released in 1979. His later albums feature him playing every instrument on most songs. Jones is truly a unique talent and unsung hero of LZ.
Led Zeppelin ended when Bonzo died.
What a controversial opinion buddy...
He has skills, and yes he in many ways
Wow, your level of perception is wizard -like ! !, absolutely amazing.
JPJ is pure class!!! Not to mention a musical genius!!!
The real reason Plant didnt want Jones is because his son in law was a bass player that had toured with plants solo career. Jimmy really didnt have a say in the matter. The reunions were all controlled by robert plant
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Right, and Plant very often wanted to avoid there collaborations live or otherwise as being "Led Zeppelin."
A agree with Plant.
Had JPJ been with them, for all intents and purposes the media and fans would have called them "Led Zeppelin."
That's quite a different thing from "Page & Plant."
JPJ not the only bass player that preferred a quieter life off stage, look at a certain bassist from queen.
A genuine multi instrumentalist. Incredibly talented musician and a huge part of the Led Zeppelin sound.
"had some talent", hmm let's see. Killer bass player, great mando player ,truly great keyboard player. Oh, and by the way, his keyboard was equipped with bass foot pedals, so he could play both keys and bass simultaneously, ala Billy Preston. What a musician!
I think many don't realize he played keyboards n bass pedal together.
Don't forget his flutes, and lap steel guitar as well...
Just recently saw a video of him playing lap slide, wow. Haven't seen his flute playing, but I'm not surprised.
Maybe at that time, Page/Plant's bass player Charlie Jones was married to Robert Plant's daughter Carmen might have had something to do with it. Charlie is also a great bass player as is JPJ.
Without that thundering bass we wouldn’t have the lightning that LZ is, not to mention JPJ’s writing/arrangement skills and any stringed or keyed instruments. Really couldn’t have had the Zeppelin we know and love without any of them, including Peter Grant and Roy Harper.
I MEAN IT LITERALLY TOOK A ENTIRE ORCHESTRA TO FULFILL HIS PLACE .HE WAS THE GROUNDED ONE ,MAYBE THE ONE IN CHARGE . PERHAPS
John Paul Jones came up with some of the best shit they did. Trampled Underfoot kills.
Black Dog!!!!!!!!
*. . . . . . thank you for remembering my phone number*
*classic* 💀
I've seen video of Robert's reaction to this & he was feeling the burn..as he should.
dude, at least Robert Plant came to his senses and begged for forgiveness. He's a great person, really. A great human being. It's starting to shine now in his older years.
Respect for JPJ. Congrats on #50thAnniversary !!!
I think if you were lucky enough to have Jonesy as a friend,he'd be the best friend you could ever hope to have.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Never delved into this. It makes perfect sense. Glad they made up and am proud of Robert for heartfully asking his forgiveness.
He had a major role in the arrangement of many of the groups best songs. He probably should have been credited for much more than he was.
Not only not into the described but also the occult which Jimmy Page and to a lesser degree Plant was into. Robert Plant with the death of son & Bonzo did change him a lot though.
You hate to hear these things. But they happen. Knowing, years later, he messed up and all but begging Jones for his forgiveness, that is a hard thing to do, and Jones forgiving is just as hard. So glad as a huge Led Zep fan that they did.
When Zep played in Russia JPJ played some Rachminoff on the keyboard which went down well with the audience. An under appreciated and awesome musician.
В Советском Союзе эта группа ( Led Zeppelin) не имела равных!!! Джон Пол Джонс всегда был немного сзади но он давал надёжный тыл Джимми во всём!!! Великолепный музыкант - долгих лет жизни дорогой Джон Пол!!!❤❤❤❤❤
When did they play in Russia? This is news to me
They never played in Russia. What you are referring to is a concert in New York when the Russian ambassador was in the audience, which the band were aware of. 1973 I believe.
@@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp Who gives a shit.
If they brought in JPJ, then it would have been called Led Zeppelin and that would've determined what material they would "have to play". I think Robert is the one who decided and he wanted to explore other kinds of world music with Jimmy - especially the music of Morocco and North African music. In fact, after they got back together, Jimmy and Robert went to Marrakesh and jammed with local musicians. There's an interview from the mid-eighties where Plant is describing his interest in playing with Page again and he says he just wants it to be Page and Plant.
Exactly.
This is what I heard. RP invited JPJ to play at a 1985 HoneyDippers show. Later in the tour, Plant invited Page to a show. Page asked Jonesy how was the show?Jones said get there early, it turns to shit after that. Page told Plant what he said. I don't think Plant ever forgot that.😮
A great all-round musician. I always thought him restricted with his bass parts, he was more than that.
What Is And What Should Never Be should put to rest any thought that he was limited in what he could do. What he did was to fill the holes as best he could to support the three featured musicians. And just as his awesome melodic work on “What Is…” showed, he was great at all of it
Good for JPJ for standing with the most important partner in his life, I don’t fault JP and RP for living the rock star lifestyle although I wish Bonzo could have been saved.
Sounds like the story of another great and talented bass player from my generation. Carlos Dengler of Interpol and John Paul Jones were not only excellent and creative musicians (and sometimes underrated too) but also fundamentals for their respective bands.
Jon Paul Jones famously has often done a lot of work with much younger and newer artists. He was the reason why Led Zep sounded much bigger than just a 3/4 piece.
Without Jonesy. "In Through the Outdoor" never gets made. The rest of the members were dealing with drugs, booze and in Plants case, the loss of family. ITTOD was a major comeback for Zeppelin after the previously panned "Presence" JPJ was the invisible glue that held that band together post 1976.
WOW!
Robert Plant got on his knees and begged John Paul to forgive him! WOW!
Is it really true?
John Paul Jones was by far the real talent in Led Zeppelin .
X amount divided by 2 is a lot more than x amount divided by 3
how does John Paul Jones look so young I saw him in something and like the end of 2023 and the man look like he was in his 40s He's got to be damn near 80 years old and he looks young as hell like how does he look so young?
Plant really seemed to mature and grow into a good human in his later years. Many of his musical efforts seem like attempts to apologize for Zep.
I bought Led Zeppelin's first the first week or so, expecting some kind of Yardbirds thing. I was 16. First side (vinyl)... yikes! First 5 seconds of side two... "this shit is for real." I never looked back. There is no other rock musician in the past 53 years anything like JPJ. Todd Rundgren got close. Then Them Crooked Yultures ended the contest.
I saw the 94 concert. I was pissed that JPJ was not with them. I knew it up front but I didn’t like it. The show was awesome though. Really loud too. The electric amplified hurdy gurdy shook the beams of Thompson Boling in Knoxville. You could feel it in your chest.
Great question!!! Seeing as J.P.Jones wrote a lot of the music & some of their biggest songs! On top of that, as they got more experimental with different instruments, who do you think played those instruments??? None other than John Paul Jones!! Just like Robert. Jimmy, & Bonzo....there is NO Led Zeppelin without J. P. Jones!!!
Thank God Robert Plant saw the light and apologised to John Paul Jones. I was about to write something nasty about Plant , but then I heard that last line from the narrator and it restored my faith in him. Page ? Oh, who cares ? I think the demonic realm matters more to him than a disenchanted fan. All the best, John Paul Jones ! Yep, you can be a good guy and still rock it ! Best wishes to you too, Robert ! Forever Kashmir !
The Unleded project would have been so much better than it was if JPJ was apart of it. Walking Into Clarksdale would have been better if JPJ was apart of it as well
I'll be damned. I knew he had a much lower profile than the others, but never knew he was so disconnected from them off stage.
Jonesy was and is an incredibly gifted musician.
Love his sense of humor during the David Letterman show.
Not inviting JPJ was a huge slap in the face. Glad they reconciled.
Because of Robert Plant that’s why. Everyone would have been saying it’s a zeppelin reunion. Jimmy would have been up for it
This. And, it was about control. Plant wanted it. JPJ wouldn't have put up with the 'rearrange for rearrangement frilliness sake' silliness.
Da, zbog Roberta Planta nema ni novih LIVE albuma. Jimmy P. i J.P. Jones rado bi to objavili, jer ima materijala za 10 LIVE albuma. Robert P. je problem!
Well Bonzo was known to be a bit unpredictable and wave guns around when he got really upset, but not sure why they were so dishonourable to Jonesy - their old friend. Jimmy approached John first, but Page perhaps should have just grasped the nettle, and let him know, Planty wanted the gig for his son in law, before they were on TV.
Sad truth is while the other guys were partying playing rock star he was in the studio recording their parts.
Wow he is very very talented gosh good for him
Composer, knew odd time signatures in depth.
JPJ should have gotten much more recognition than he did. The guy wrote many of their hit songs and was a multi instrumentalists. If you watch him today he does great renditions of my songs playing lead guitar ,bass and the lap steal . It's sad that for what ever reasons Jimmy Page and Robert Plant has little respect for him . If you watched any of the videos of them 3 together you can see that JPJ is always quiet,reserved and says nothing but get him by him self and he is very open and communicative.
They could have shown him a Whole Lotta Love but instead they decided to Battle for Evermore. It’s Nobody’s Fault but their Own.
Thank You
corny
Lolll
That's the way
It's what is & what should never be.
LZ without JPJ and Bonzo is like The Who playing live without John Entwistle and Keith Moon and Van Halen without Michael Anthony
Yep, it's like havin BBQ with no sauce!
I seriously don't think the band would have been able to play anywhere near the level they did onstage without Jones. He kept the steadiness required to keep the others being able to improvise. Maybe the all time underrated musicians ever. He and Richard Wright in my opinion are 1a and 1b.
I'd like to see the proof of Plant getting on his knees. Sounds a bit farfetched
Plant's humor often came across as egotistical, at least to Americans. And there was some resentment; while he eventually cleaned himself up in '77 after Karac's death, I can't imagine he wasn't still hurt in some way because of Jones never reaching out to him. While he could attribute Page not being there to being in the throes of his excesses, this was a sober Jones who remained aloof. But no doubt, Plant can be a haughty ass.
We may look at the other band members as being important because of their flamboyant lives. But the actual talent in the band was John. John was so gifted instrumentality that he gave Zeppelin their very distinctive sound. 😊
I was working in retail golf during this tour when a roadie from the opening act came in looking for a travel cover. I told him I would give him the cover for free if he got me into the show. I didn't even know the show was in town to be honest. He asked me to meet him outside the North gate (backstage gate) at 6:00 that night. My work colleague told me I was going to be ripped off. I stood outside that gate until 7:30 30 min after the opening act went on stage I was starting to think I got ripped off. Right about the time I was going to leave I saw him emerge from the tunnel. He spotted me peeled a round all access pass off its backing and stuck it on my shirt. I followed him and he led me to my seat that ended up being about 25 feet away from the stage front left. I watched all night in Ahhhhhhh!! The only problem was I was not allowed back stage without an escort and had to hold a piss for ungodly amount of time. I think I have prostate problems today at 50 due to that night. haha
JPJ was a great addition to Zep!! A master! 👍
JPJ was already well known in the music industry as a session musician and arranger way before he joined LZ. He contributed to so many top ten pop and rock hits in the 60s, that his name was well established. It is surprising he even joined LZ.
Who TF is ZP?
@@johngalush8790 Zeppelin. Could also be Zombie Panic.
@@tomc642 He didn't join Zeppelin. He joined The New Yardbirds, a well established, paying gig with another well established session musician, Page was practically a rock star already, so it makes sense he would join.
It really pissed me off so much. I’m sure it was more down to Plant and his seemingly growing embarrassment of being part of Zeppelin. Plant saying he didn’t want it to feel like a Zeppelin reunion as they went on tour playing Zeppelin tracks. JPJ is responsible for keeping the music/albums going when the others were more interested in heroin or alcohol.
As a misanthropic bass player who has an extremely low tolerance for the bullshit of egomaniacs … I can 100% relate.
I ♥️ you John Paul Jones 😊
That's the price you pay for being modest and understated. He should have stood in front and shaked his ass like Jimmy and Robert
ALL four of these guys are freakin' Icons with secured places in MUSIC history. Bonham, Page and Plant arguably got most of the press. My humble opinion is that Jones was by far the most well rounded musician of the four.
Just as an aside, when I was a wee lad my homie and I got to see Led Zeppelin with Alice Cooper at The Whisky A Go GO in Hollyweird! Many may disagree but Alice Cooper were the outstanding band of the night. They KICKED ASS! Not that Zep were bad, they seemed very tired but the music was good. However, when I went to see them a year later and they were in full Led Zeppelin POWER/GLORY...
Most of this is true, the part about robert plant getting on his knees i don’t know about.
The story is Robert was tying his shoe lace..
John Paul Jones is Led Zepplin's secret weapon.
John was a great musician, and a very respectful man.👍
Money. It goes further split two ways rather than three.
Because it would have been seen as a Zep reunion. And RP wouldn’t have done it.
It was billed as Plant/ Page. I saw that tour.
Awesome.
"Vikings having sex with hobbits" -- JPJ on David Letterman
Funny how the thumbnail of this video shows a recent photo of Plant and Page but the JPJ photo is from the 70s. 🤨🤔
Jimmy Page is my favorite artist ever but John Paul Jones is my favorite member of Led Zeppelin. Seems like a contradiction but it makes sense in my head
He is a complete musician, they disrespected him greatly.