i donno what changed in the game but i cant choose a second (thug : combat trick) at level 6 maybe a mod is doing that if anyone has an idea please feel free to help out a bro
Rookie here. I’m Playing on PS five and cannot respect her level one or change her ability scores. I’m guessing to do that requires a mod and to be on PC.
Wanted to mention you can pick up Sword Saint for AC Bonus feat, which uses your Int modifer, which equal to +2 AC and you get the Uncanny Defense feat, which is another + 1 AC, since you have a free hand you can cast some juicy crowd control spells. Wanted to leave this here in case someone check the comment section.
Damn! That demonstration against the Roc was insane! This is your best build video to date! I love that you showed the build rocking outside of the tutorial!
Fantastic! I'm definitely using this one. This one actually seems to be much more in line with her story -- turning away from the order and being taught by the Aldori. Looking forward to whatever you're gonna cook up for Jubi. Although, he's already pretty damn beast the way he is in the game without a respec if you build him right. What I'm really, really looking forward to you your take on Jaethal. She's such an underrated companion. It would be awesome to see what your brilliant brain comes up for her. Ditching the inquisitor, but retaining the undead and her Goddess and maybe even the scythe. Cheers!
How do you have the time to research and produce (including post-production editing) all your content (with a family)!? Amazing man - thank you for all your hard work!
Rogue 3 is not added for fun. At level 3 of any Rogue class, your Dex bonus now adds damage with any/all Finesse wielding weapons ! It is a big factor. You therefore do not need the feats Slashing Grace nor Fencing Grace.
Yeah, I also took a level of Scaled Fist monk: gives many perks and I took the Crane Style of course! Along with Dazzling Display. I was tempted by Thug also, to get Frightening, but I just cannot do it for role-play reasons: just not her thing.
@@ArcaneAgent I just purchased this game on ps4 in November. What is the best build for not only Valerie but for all the companions if you cannot respec them?
@@ArcaneAgent yeah... I did the obvious dips into Monk sacred fist and Alchemist Viv, but I am like you and prefer the full class. Note a fan of cross-classing. Also kept it real and stayed with the bastard sword.
Decided to get the blind fight at 13 and instead get the combat mobility at 15 with another level of aldori defender. This has also allowed me to get that sweet counterattack from the 10th level of aldori defender.
The Only way to build Valerie in my opinion is 8 tower shielder 2 thug 10 stalwart defender and get frightening presence to add str to her intimidate the just laugh as enemies just run away from the walking face of the mountain
Putting Valery to 25 is defiantly not cheating. she starts with 27, so it's in fact nerfing her. she starts with STR 14 , DEX 13, CON 19, INT 9, WIS 10, CHA 15 Assuming her human bonus went to Con, closets you can get here with 25 is 14/13/19/9/10/14
Please do Harrim build next. Im always feel that he is so underpower. He is kind of tank/cleric but i dont have a slot for him since i have Val and Tris for the job. But im really curious if i can build him right he would be stronger than those two.
I suggest leaving one level in cleric and putting the rest in druid (you can even go blight druid for the RP concept of Groetus) it gives the lonely guy a companion friend and takes advantage of all his stats without having to respec-mod him.
Does this valerie still use tower shield and wear heavy armor? My Valerie using this build walks in every combat and never runs, although tank suppose to be the first to engage and be in frontline...how to fix the speed issue?
@@ArcaneAgent I saw your demonstration wearing no armor at all at level 17.Should i wear light or medium armor at early levels, or naked throughout the entire journey?
If you are still doing builds for this then i wish for a Fun Harrim build. I play on fairly easy so it does not really have to be optimal. An idea i have is just behind the front line with reach weapon and healing and buffing as need appears. Or a simple off-tank heal/supporter but i mean it's your video
Great even fantastic build ! At level 7 dueling against Fredero Sinnet in Shelyn's chosen's quest, I beat him while he touched me only a couple of times ! Even without a shield this rogue/aldori fighter mixed build makes Valerie nearly untouchable !
I got tired with Valerie being the last alive member of my group trading misses with high AR tanks. I didin't even respecced her. Just leveled all remaining levels as a Sword Saint. Touch Attack flame sword works as a charm in those long attritions, and she uses heavy armor and her tower shield so no much damage going on.
Sword Saint Tristian build? or just "Mass Injure"? edited: I notice that Valerie has a lack of "Will" saves, the thing that will most likely screw her over in the game will be "Fear" effect. imagine your main tank just took off from the front line, leaving all the juicy meats behind her for the enemies.
I wanted to let you know that I am trying Valerie build in Unfair. I had her first two levels monk, aldori swordlord so I could cast mage armor on her. So far doing better than I expected.
I thought the same. Using a mod to change everything about her, she's not Valerie any more. She's just a new player generated character. Merc with 25 points.
@@ArcaneAgent Well, at least you're still using her portrait :) I do think the core game screwed up Valerie's base build, but in a way, that's part of the challenge for me... To try to make her into something useful with what you are given.
Well, honestly if you were playing DnD tabletop and the DM said, "Here, take this rogue that has 11 dexterity and 19 wisdom, and it has weapon proficiency club and this is what youre rolling with for 60 hours" You'd want to respecc too
Holy macaroni! You promised an interesting Duelist build - and you delivered in spades :D Any recomendations for the race of Duelist main? I guess anything with bonuses to Dex and Cha will do?
Curious why everyone favors the monk tanks.. or the aldori defenders. Why no vids but as a tower shield finesse build. Put on the tophat you don't even need the strength to cart around your gear. You move full speed in plate armor after level 7. Don't take the minus -2 for having a shield (effectively combat expertise for free). All your dex applies in addition to your AC because of scaling tower shield mastery. Full shield bonus to touch improved by feats. Armor/shields provide a lot more feat options to buff up. Can still sneak attack/cornugon smash if wanted. Don't need to buff up to hit crazy AC levels. Not to mention as soon as you get your kingdom you can take advantage of the bladed plate in kanerahs' chest (unsure if its always there but it has been for me) which does 1d4 anytime someone attacks you in melee. (Why not punish people just for missing). Level 112 unbuffed and i'm sporting 46 AC, 38 FF, 21 Touch
On top of utilizing a nearly full BAB (I splashed 1 level for rogue,class skills, and threw in a bit of SA damage.) With fighter you have the spare feats and early enough AC to use feats later for crane style and don't really need to waste a level.
I actually have a build that works with the bladed armor that I am working on right now. I dont want to give away the details though hehe. Not just yet
@@ArcaneAgent Thanks mate. Had a mithril +2 bp spare, it's working out nicely. I'm running your mad dog Amiri, alongside my red dragon asimar pure fire nuker PC with pure ranger Ekun, necro Harrim and full bard buffer Linzi and it's just tearing stuff up. The double dogs with this Val is SO much survivability, when buffed I don't even need to heal :D
@@ArcaneAgent I understand that, I just think it would more interesting to see how you would build them within the limitations of not being able to respec them, to see how playable you could make them.
The build is, in general, very close to what I came up with after game release, as a main, to finally have a rock-solid tank! - In general, there is evidently nothing that even remotely beats (Aldori) Dex defense, and original Val, as the only obvious tank choice given by the game, is indeed in this respect a truly terrible pain in the butt: We talk about a difference of something like 10+ AC... or, an additional Full Plate; - for not(!) using a shield at all. :D Main difference was that I very much accentuated the offensive combat prowess, instead of going the full (in any terms very expensive) CC tank route; as it is clearly more fun for a main character to compete with Nok-Nok ( both obviously with Outflank) for the skull count. ;) Other than that, high quality content! :D
I seems it is not worth using Heavy Armor for tanking. Just get monk and no armor and you good to go. Doesn't that kill a little RP with players that want to use heavy armor :). Great video.
try Linzi as a bard 8, rogue 2, Arcane Trickster 10 with a bow or bard 6, rogue 4 (knife master), Arcane Trickster 10 with daggers/kukris (extra rogue levels for dex to damage)
, honestly, not sold on that one. You're missing the best song (bard 9), halting already slow spell progression to a crawl with 3 or 5 levels of delay, gutting the inspiration progression, and what do you get? Sneak attack? I mean, sure, it's kinda op in PF: Kingmaker, due to the ease of getting it, but still. There's plenty of sneak attack sources in the game. Not sure, how this build plays, but on paper it looks like much weaker Octavia.
Can you do a two handed battle cleric build with Gorum for the diety? using chaos and destruction domains? That's what I made for my Pathfinder home game I'm trying to figure it out.
I actually have a fun vanilla Valerie build I've been using on my playthrough of PF KM but it'd be cool if you could show it off in a video just to make it more visible to people if they're looking for a good vanilla Valerie build and don't want to use mods. Now Valerie is a fantastic character in vanilla as a tank, but she has a rough time putting out damage. I only have the build done up until level 11 so far because that's how far I am but feel free to expand upon it past that :D. This build allows her to remain tanky while bumping her damage output. She's one of my strongest characters right now for damage. Lvl 1 - Default Lvl 2 - Fighter. Weapon Focus Bastard Sword. 2 Ranks Kn. Arcana Lvl 3 - Fighter. Combat Reflexes. 1 Rank Kn. Arcana 1 Rank Mobility Lvl 4 - Fighter. Weapon Specialization Bastard Sword. 1 Rank Kn. Arcana. 1 Rank Mobility. +1 Stat Dex Lvl 5 - Sorcerer. Draconic Bloodline (any, I chose Copper). Combat Casting (sorc bonus), Arcane Armor Training. Spells - Shield, Enlarge Person. 1 Rank Kn. Arcana, 1 Rank Mobility Lvl 6 - Dragon Disciple. At this point skill ranks can go anywhere. I tend to just go straight perception / stealth at this point with just 1 point into trickery so she can at least try) Lvl 7 - Dragon Disciple. Arcane Armor Mastery, Blind Fight (bloodline), Lvl 8 - Dragon Disciple, Spell - Expeditious Retreat. +1 Stat point Int (gives her a bunch of extra skills :D) Lvl 9 - Dragon Disciple, Outflank, Spell - Mirror Image Lvl 10 - Rogue (thug archetype) Lvl 11 - Rogue. Improved Critical Bastard Sword. Combat Trick Power Attack. My Valerie is hitting a lot better at this point thanks to the extra strength from Dragon Disciple. The Shield spell is quite nice to have so she can 2 hand her Bastard Sword and still retain a solid AC. I still have her running around in the Mithral Full plate you can buy early on just because of the lower spell faliure chance and Mirror Image is a great spell to have on a high AC character to take their AC that extra mile even though she doesn't get many images. My plan is to just take her up to level 4 Rogue for Uncanny Dodge because it's nice to have, and then after that I don't really have much of a plan for her.
Love your content. This is in your NO MODS playlist but you use mods right? I’m a rookie here but I thought the only way to reset a companions first level is through mods?
I love this doing the companion build recently picked up the game and wanted to know all these strats... ALso can you do a pure rogue build with like daggers to do back stab and stuff thank you man you are the best
I'd love to see a Maegar Varn build for the Varnhold's Lot DLC... He just keeps dying on me and I think he could use a new build. Then again, maybe I just suck. :-P
So I just started playing this. Haven't made into the first act yet (lol). My main character basically is a Slayer Archer and my party right now is: me (ranger slayer) + amiri + valerie + dwarf cleric I've forgot the name + the bard (also forgot her name). I was thinking to make my Valerie the tank of the party but I'm not sure if its a good idea. Any suggestion for a tankier companion build?
It looks great but I can do it with any character no matter who he/she is. Valerie starts with tower shield specialist so why respec her if this is her original class? That's not necessarily Valerie build rather character with her model and portrait because of the amount of third party programs included. You even change ability points. It has nothing to do with actual character progression because at this point i can change every npc to suit my needs
@@ArcaneAgent I don't know what that is, but I meant something like making a Kvothe (from "the name of the wind") or lets make a Geralt of Rivia. That kind of thing
Drizzt is a DnD Forgotten Realms book character, that has made it into a couple of cRPGs as well. But yes, make a Spider Man character lol, webs people up
@@ArcaneAgent i have eldriche arcana and call of the wild mods added, could one of those be the cause? Edit: apparently call of the wild is the culprit
I appreciate this build, tower shields are fugly, lol. To bad I can't give her 3 Paladin levels though, might be a pretty good build for the MC too (with 3 Paladin levels).
How did you respec with Bag of tricks active and not end up with an extras 25 skill points? I am forced to turn off Bag of tricks each time I wish to respec which is rather bothersome. I am all ears.
I really wish the makers of this game would include a more efficient way of knowing what talents unlock other talents. i know that they show you what talents and requirements are required to unlock a talent, but that means that i need to look at the entire list of talents every time i want to build something, and ive only been playing pathfinder for a few months. And so every time i theory craft i feel like i have to refer to the ENTIRE encyclopedia of pathfinder just to satisfy my desire to min max things in games. key word: efficiently IF the talents available (choosable at a given moment) showed every talent that it unlocks, i could more efficiently look through the list of unlearned talents to make better choices for the late game a game with Zero respec options outside of mods needs to give me a frickin bone here. also im grateful there are mods, and i use them. YOU on the other hand might not want this, because my ignorance turns into your views and sub counts lawl thanks for your videos
I prefer the Magus over Wizard because of the magic weapon ability. I see that you tend to dip into other classes which isn't something I generally do when i'm making characters due to old habits.
Is it really a Valerie build if you respec her out of her starting class, and you put her at a stat allotment that you litterally can't get except for on your main character? :thinking:
OK so i did this build on Valerie , bought the Frost Dueling Sword, and went to try out what she can do...SHE MISSES ALL THE TIME....i mention i am only on lvl 9 i didnt get to lvl 10...she cannot hit a 50 hp bear ...it s true the bear misses also but wtf man what did i do wrong....maybe it s the version 1.3 varnholds lot that i am playing ...pls help
@@ArcaneAgent well it is like this : Attack result 12 + 3 modifier something in the middle of that ....target armor class 32 or 22.miss..it says there with red that -3 is power attack and -3 combat expertise...aaaaand 50 hp bear just killed valerie...is there something that i do not do right? EDIT : i am kind of noob on this game and it is hard for me to answer what you need to know thank you
Arcane Agent, hello I am a big fan of the build's that you make for Pathfinder Kingmaker.And I would like your expertise on putting together a build,I would like to run a base class of Druid-defender of the true world.And four levels of Magus- eldritch scion, I would really like your help on this and I would be eternally grateful.So thank you in advance, and you are always saying that you want a challenge
@@ArcaneAgent No, was using Valerie. Just got into the game, and now I can't respec her ability scores at all. Edit: forget to click the '+20' ability points in the respec mod. So, to be clear, this is what her ability scores wind up being: STR 13, DEX 17 (15+2), CON 10, INT 14, WIZ 10, CHA 14. Edit #2: need to use the +25 option to reach your build. Got it now...thanks for the wonderful build!
Sadly you completely lost me with respecing her. The challenge is to make the companions strong as is as Valerie can be one of the strongest with just a single class. Making her a Fighter 1 Eldritch Scion magus (abyssal) (all of the rest) makes her incredibly strong especially if you complete her companion quest as she ends up with a base 22 str and 17 charisma.
Hey...thats a friggin great idea. I'll try it. Although I still HATE the fact the starts with 19 con. I plan on making a better Valerie build as I go, I just HATE that she starts at level 1 as a tower shield fighter as its the WORST fighter in my opinion
Tower shield fighter has 1 major trick. The tower shield armor training allows for very high dex mods in very heavy armor as it overrides the usual dex limit on it. I made a Fighter 15/ Knifemaster 4/ Trad Monk 1 crane style tank using a kukri and tower shield that (partially due to the insanely good kukris in the game) Did 1d4+2d8+I think 2d8 elemental at those levels you can wear full plate and have a +9 dex mod. Still makes it a terrible choice for Val and her 13 dex though.
Exactly, she's doo doo broken for Tower shield. They should have let them all be level 1, and given you their backstories, and then just given you alignment restrictions or whatever. She's stated to be a Paladin, but is just garbage
I'm sorry. I don't mean to offend but you don't think it's a slightly little bit cheating? I mean she have the original 20 points, mercenaries have 20 points, giving her 25... dunno I couldn't do it :) but sweet build thnnxx
it's not even that i don't like rogue, it's that thug is just so good that you gimp yourself not taking it. it's kinda like how every other build also takes a level in monk. I don't like being bottlenecked by the game mechanics. even worse the monk builds bottleneck your alignments too so if you want max tank stats you have to be lawful good or no 5 dodge robe. they fucked up not letting you use magic device to bypass item restrictions, that was a godsend in nwn2. it's just total nonsense that 1 point dip in a class=10+ free ac. that being said, valerie is kinda thuggish if we're being honest. she dislikes art, the thinks the paladin order devoted to a god of beauty is wrong by virtue of its existance, and sees direct force as the best way to solve problems. also she's lawful neutral and basically just serves the lord of the land as long as he's not too much of a bastard, which is basically what a thug in anyone's service would be. I know there's some regent events where if you put her in charge she drives some people out of the village because they weren't following the letter of the law. that's def something a thug would do. it makes sense for her to be aldori since she seemed like she was an apprentice of that lady that gave you your barony, though honestly I'm more a fan of her being a standard fighter she doesn't seem like the dueling sword type.
That's the whole issue with some of the DnD games. If you really like short swords at level 1 you spec short swords, then at level 12 you find the friggin Blackrazor and its a longsword and youre hating your character because you wasted a feat on short swords
Companion: Valerie (Lawful Neutral)
Race: Human
STR 13, DEX 17 (15+2 Human), CON 10, INT 14, WIS 10, CHA 16
Skills: Mobility, Perception, Persuasion, Use Magic, (Stealth or Trickery, World)
Weapon: Dueling Sword
1:35 1 - Aldori Defender: Weapon Focus - Dueling Sword , Combat Expertise, Dodge
2:35 2 - Thug:
3:12 3 - Scaled Fist: Aldori Dueling Mastery, Crane Style
4:07 4 - Thug: DEX, Combat Trick - Dazzling Display
5:07 5 - Thug: Combat Reflexes, Finesse Training (Dueling Sword)
6:17 6 - Thug: Combat Trick - Crane Wing
7:27 7 - Aldori Defender: Shatter Defense, Power Attack
8:09 8 - Aldori Defender: DEX
8:39 9 - Aldori Defender: Cornugon Smash, Crane Riposte
9:15 10 - Aldori Defender: Weapon Training (Heavy Blades)
11:07 11 - Aldori Defender: Critical Focus
11:38 12 - Aldori Defender: DEX
11:49 13 - Aldori Defender: Combat Mobility
12:29 14 - Aldori Defender: Trained Initiative OR Reflexes, Weapon Training (Heavy Blades)
13:07 15 - Duelist: Tiring Critical
14:05 16 - Duelist: DEX
14:26 17 - Duelist: Exhausting Critical
15:10 18-20 Duelist: Do what you want
15:18 Game Play
i donno what changed in the game but i cant choose a second (thug : combat trick) at level 6 maybe a mod is doing that if anyone has an idea please feel free to help out a bro
Rookie here. I’m Playing on PS five and cannot respect her level one or change her ability scores. I’m guessing to do that requires a mod and to be on PC.
Wanted to mention you can pick up Sword Saint for AC Bonus feat, which uses your Int modifer, which equal to +2 AC and you get the Uncanny Defense feat, which is another + 1 AC, since you have a free hand you can cast some juicy crowd control spells. Wanted to leave this here in case someone check the comment section.
@@Zoze13 Unfortunately yes you'll need a Respec Mod and Bag of Tricks.
Companion: Valerie (Lawful Neutral)
Race: Human (Messed with hair)
Str 13, Dex 17 (15+2 Human), Con 10, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 16
Skills: Mobility, Perception, Persuasion, Use Magic, (extra's into Stealth or Trickery, World)
1 - Fighter (Aldori Defender) Weapon Focus (Dueling Sword), Combat Expertise, Dodge
2 - Rogue (Thug)
3 - Monk (Scaled Fist) Aldori Dueling Mastery, Crane Style
4 - Rogue DEX + 1, Dazzling Display
5 - Rogue Combat Reflexes, Finesse Training (Dueling Sword)
6 - Rogue Crane Wing
7 - Fighter Shatter Defense, Power Attack
8 - Fighter DEX + 1
9 - Fighter Cornugon Smash, Crane Riposte
10 - Fighter Weapon Training (Heavy Blades)
11 - Fighter Critical Focus
12 - Fighter DEX + 1
13 - Fighter Combat Mobility
14 - Fighter Fighter Reflexes OR Trained Initiative, Weapon Training (Heavy Blades)
15 - Duelist Tiring Critical
16 - Duelist DEX + 1
17 - Duelist Exhausting Critical
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Can this be built without the respec mod?
I'll try
Deflect arrows would rock
Damn! That demonstration against the Roc was insane! This is your best build video to date! I love that you showed the build rocking outside of the tutorial!
I've done quite a few outside of the tutorial
he loves what you did, calm down on the defensive comments :p
@@ScorpionP2C Apparently correcting peoples incorrect statements is defensive all of a sudden?
I was having a moody day yesterday.
Huge ! Adequate mods installed. New game started and actually following your builds for my PC and companions
Sweet man, I'm glad my builds help. Follow me on www.twitch.tv/thearcaneagent
Fantastic! I'm definitely using this one. This one actually seems to be much more in line with her story -- turning away from the order and being taught by the Aldori. Looking forward to whatever you're gonna cook up for Jubi. Although, he's already pretty damn beast the way he is in the game without a respec if you build him right. What I'm really, really looking forward to you your take on Jaethal. She's such an underrated companion. It would be awesome to see what your brilliant brain comes up for her. Ditching the inquisitor, but retaining the undead and her Goddess and maybe even the scythe. Cheers!
I just solo'd the Ancient Soul Eaters at the Shivering Glade with this Valerie build...at level 11
nice build but it lacks abit in the saves department... perhaps a couple levels paladin
How do you have the time to research and produce (including post-production editing) all your content (with a family)!? Amazing man - thank you for all your hard work!
I schedule it out. I'll shoot the video at like 730 on a Monday, and edit it Tuesday and post it wednesday
rofl... click on VALERIE BUILD video and immediately hear "YEAH 36 sneak attack"... Don't ever change man.
Lol rogue builds. I'll never change
Rogue 3 is not added for fun. At level 3 of any Rogue class, your Dex bonus now adds damage with any/all Finesse wielding weapons ! It is a big factor. You therefore do not need the feats Slashing Grace nor Fencing Grace.
Bloodhound is a good weapon for this build, dueling sword +5, 18-20 crit,+2dmg for dmg stacking after every atack,but that some late game weapon
Yeppers
Yeah, I also took a level of Scaled Fist monk: gives many perks and I took the Crane Style of course! Along with Dazzling Display.
I was tempted by Thug also, to get Frightening, but I just cannot do it for role-play reasons: just not her thing.
Yea sometimes ya gotta role play
never thought about making her this way. love it! welp time to respec
I Respec way too many times
Valerie has become the undefeatable defender she was always meant to be.
She gets pretty tough with this build
@@ArcaneAgent I just purchased this game on ps4 in November. What is the best build for not only Valerie but for all the companions if you cannot respec them?
Well thats a big ask hehe.
Keep Valerie a tank of some kind for sure.
@@ArcaneAgent yeah... I did the obvious dips into Monk sacred fist and Alchemist Viv, but I am like you and prefer the full class. Note a fan of cross-classing. Also kept it real and stayed with the bastard sword.
Wish I could fit blind fighting into this build. It's so damn useful in the main campaign
Decided to get the blind fight at 13 and instead get the combat mobility at 15 with another level of aldori defender. This has also allowed me to get that sweet counterattack from the 10th level of aldori defender.
The Only way to build Valerie in my opinion is 8 tower shielder 2 thug 10 stalwart defender and get frightening presence to add str to her intimidate the just laugh as enemies just run away from the walking face of the mountain
Enemies never touch Valerie with the current build I gave her
@@ArcaneAgent I go that way cus it allows to add shield bonus to reflex
worth picking up disarm? iirc Defender gets free attack on disarm? would make you even more solid against armed foes
I'm considering a disarm, sunder, concussive blow character
These are amazing man, I cant wait for more, so I can fix the rest of my companions!
Working on them
Can i Sugest a true villain build? I want to play a evil Lawfull evil character, brutal and ruthless.
Lawful evil is one of my favorite evils to play
Great video! Definitely will try this build
It breaks the game
Thanks for your intelligent and useful builds..
Putting Valery to 25 is defiantly not cheating. she starts with 27, so it's in fact nerfing her. she starts with STR 14
, DEX 13, CON 19, INT 9, WIS 10, CHA 15 Assuming her human bonus went to Con, closets you can get here with 25 is 14/13/19/9/10/14
This is why I like this community, the majority of players are understanding and not angry people
Please do Harrim build next. Im always feel that he is so underpower. He is kind of tank/cleric but i dont have a slot for him since i have Val and Tris for the job. But im really curious if i can build him right he would be stronger than those two.
I shall keep him divine of groetus. Not sure where i will take him though
I suggest leaving one level in cleric and putting the rest in druid (you can even go blight druid for the RP concept of Groetus) it gives the lonely guy a companion friend and takes advantage of all his stats without having to respec-mod him.
deeply considered turning in into a Druid
@@ScorpionP2C since there are no druid companion available, this is a good idea. Thanks!
Harrim groetus druid hehe
Your builds also hold up in Wrath of The Righteous. Which is no surprise, but still good to know.
Does this valerie still use tower shield and wear heavy armor? My Valerie using this build walks in every combat and never runs, although tank suppose to be the first to engage and be in frontline...how to fix the speed issue?
This Valerie ditches heavy armor and tower shields
@@ArcaneAgent I saw your demonstration wearing no armor at all at level 17.Should i wear light or medium armor at early levels, or naked throughout the entire journey?
It's up to you, test out what you feel works best
Valerie Aldori Build
Aldori Defender 9/Thug 4/Scaled Fist 1/Duelist 3+
STR:13 DEX:17->22 CON:10 INT:14 WIS:10 CHR:16
Skills: Mobility, Perception, Persuasion, UMD, (Trickery, Stealth, (Kn:World))
1) Aldori 1: WF(Dueling Sword), Combat Expertise, Dodge
2) Thug 1: (Weapon Finesse)
3) Scaled Fist 1: Aldori Dueling Mastery, Crane Style
4) Thug 2: Dazzling Display (Evasion)
5) Thug 3: Combat Reflexes, Finesse Training(Dueling Sword)
6) Thug 4: Crane Wing, (Uncanny Dodge)
7) Aldori 2: Shatter Defenses, Power Attack
8) Aldori 3: (Defensive Parry)
9) Aldori 4: Cornugon Smash, Crane Riposte
10) Aldori 5: Weapon Training: Heavy Blades
11) Aldori 6: Critical Focus
12) Aldori 7:
13) Aldori 8: Combat Mobility
14) Aldori 9: WT: Trained Initiative, WT: Heavy Blades
15) Duelist 1: Tiring Critical (Precise Strike, Canny Defense)
16) Duelist 2: (Improved Reaction, Parries)
17) Duelist 3: Exhausting Critical (Enhanced Mobility)
18, 19, 20 Duelist
If you are still doing builds for this then i wish for a Fun Harrim build. I play on fairly easy so it does not really have to be optimal. An idea i have is just behind the front line with reach weapon and healing and buffing as need appears. Or a simple off-tank heal/supporter but i mean it's your video
Yeah harrim definitely needs werk
Great even fantastic build ! At level 7 dueling against Fredero Sinnet in Shelyn's chosen's quest, I beat him while he touched me only a couple of times ! Even without a shield this rogue/aldori fighter mixed build makes Valerie nearly untouchable !
Heck yeah man I'm about to do that quest myself
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Damn. In that fight he rolled a 20 on his Sunder and started wrecking Valerie who had the typical tower shield build
Would you think about reach monk build, please?
Yes. Yes I will think about it. There are no monk reach weapons, and no dex reach weapons. So what did you have in mind?
do you do any builds without sneak attack?
Um...maybe
how many points in persuaption?
I got tired with Valerie being the last alive member of my group trading misses with high AR tanks. I didin't even respecced her. Just leveled all remaining levels as a Sword Saint. Touch Attack flame sword works as a charm in those long attritions, and she uses heavy armor and her tower shield so no much damage going on.
Sword Saint Tristian build? or just "Mass Injure"?
edited: I notice that Valerie has a lack of "Will" saves, the thing that will most likely screw her over in the game will be "Fear" effect. imagine your main tank just took off from the front line, leaving all the juicy meats behind her for the enemies.
Or gets dominated and kills all of her friends
I wanted to let you know that I am trying Valerie build in Unfair. I had her first two levels monk, aldori swordlord so I could cast mage armor on her.
So far doing better than I expected.
Its kinda broken good
A Valerie build is where you take Valerie as she appears in the game and make the best of it. This is just... a build
A build is where you start with a new player character and customize it solely to how the internet wants and not how the UA-cam's desires
I thought the same. Using a mod to change everything about her, she's not Valerie any more. She's just a new player generated character. Merc with 25 points.
K I'll go remake her back into a slow towershield specialist
@@ArcaneAgent Well, at least you're still using her portrait :)
I do think the core game screwed up Valerie's base build, but in a way, that's part of the challenge for me... To try to make her into something useful with what you are given.
Well, honestly if you were playing DnD tabletop and the DM said, "Here, take this rogue that has 11 dexterity and 19 wisdom, and it has weapon proficiency club and this is what youre rolling with for 60 hours"
You'd want to respecc too
Holy macaroni! You promised an interesting Duelist build - and you delivered in spades :D Any recomendations for the race of Duelist main? I guess anything with bonuses to Dex and Cha will do?
Pretty much anything with dex or cha
Curious why everyone favors the monk tanks.. or the aldori defenders. Why no vids but as a tower shield finesse build.
Put on the tophat you don't even need the strength to cart around your gear.
You move full speed in plate armor after level 7. Don't take the minus -2 for having a shield (effectively combat expertise for free).
All your dex applies in addition to your AC because of scaling tower shield mastery.
Full shield bonus to touch improved by feats.
Armor/shields provide a lot more feat options to buff up.
Can still sneak attack/cornugon smash if wanted.
Don't need to buff up to hit crazy AC levels.
Not to mention as soon as you get your kingdom you can take advantage of the bladed plate in kanerahs' chest (unsure if its always there but it has been for me) which does 1d4 anytime someone attacks you in melee. (Why not punish people just for missing).
Level 112 unbuffed and i'm sporting 46 AC, 38 FF, 21 Touch
On top of utilizing a nearly full BAB (I splashed 1 level for rogue,class skills, and threw in a bit of SA damage.) With fighter you have the spare feats and early enough AC to use feats later for crane style and don't really need to waste a level.
Should also be plus 9 more to touch AC. Since tower shield fighter touch AC is supposed to have shield bonus as well. (Currently bugged though.)
I actually have a build that works with the bladed armor that I am working on right now.
I dont want to give away the details though hehe. Not just yet
That zoom in for your Thug Thesis lol
Zooms for days
Would love some indication on how to gear this at level 9 if you're still here @Arcane Agent :)
Loving the vids, thanks man.
I am always here.
Give her the best armor you can that allows her to still get amazing AC. I would give her the best dex belts you can.
@@ArcaneAgent Thanks mate. Had a mithril +2 bp spare, it's working out nicely. I'm running your mad dog Amiri, alongside my red dragon asimar pure fire nuker PC with pure ranger Ekun, necro Harrim and full bard buffer Linzi and it's just tearing stuff up. The double dogs with this Val is SO much survivability, when buffed I don't even need to heal :D
I do love some nuking spells
This is a great channel!
I agree
Hey man, can you do a beard build guide? I need all the Charisma I can get! Thx for the video
Beard. Well you'll need some testosterone, jojoba oil, some grooming tools
I like these companion build videos, but personally, I'd prefer they were made w/o using the respec mod.
Dangit
But some companions you get at like level 2 and 5 and 8 and they all have trash horrible feats like "extra basic music"
@@ArcaneAgent I understand that, I just think it would more interesting to see how you would build them within the limitations of not being able to respec them, to see how playable you could make them.
I created a poll on my community tab.
The build is, in general, very close to what I came up with after game release, as a main, to finally have a rock-solid tank!
- In general, there is evidently nothing that even remotely beats (Aldori) Dex defense, and original Val, as the only obvious tank choice given by the game,
is indeed in this respect a truly terrible pain in the butt: We talk about a difference of something like 10+ AC... or, an additional Full Plate; - for not(!) using a shield at all. :D
Main difference was that I very much accentuated the offensive combat prowess, instead of going the full (in any terms very expensive) CC tank route; as it is clearly more fun for a main character to compete with Nok-Nok ( both obviously with Outflank) for the skull count. ;)
Other than that, high quality content! :D
Thanks man, consider checking me out on www.twitch.tv/thearcaneagent as I still live stream testing out new builds there!
I seems it is not worth using Heavy Armor for tanking. Just get monk and no armor and you good to go. Doesn't that kill a little RP with players that want to use heavy armor :). Great video.
Monk ac, is stupid good. A +8 Full Plate, and +8 Tower shield really has nothing on Monk Dexterity/Wisdom Dodge ac bonus
@@ArcaneAgent Damn lol.
Saint dynamite build? Any deity worship class with gernadeir? Got the idea from a powerwolf song.
Haha explosive
Still looking for anything using bard. So far nothing bets thundercaller 20 for me.
Bard linzi soon
try Linzi as a bard 8, rogue 2, Arcane Trickster 10 with a bow or bard 6, rogue 4 (knife master), Arcane Trickster 10 with daggers/kukris (extra rogue levels for dex to damage)
I likes rogues and arcane trickster...
, honestly, not sold on that one. You're missing the best song (bard 9), halting already slow spell progression to a crawl with 3 or 5 levels of delay, gutting the inspiration progression, and what do you get? Sneak attack? I mean, sure, it's kinda op in PF: Kingmaker, due to the ease of getting it, but still. There's plenty of sneak attack sources in the game. Not sure, how this build plays, but on paper it looks like much weaker Octavia.
Can you do a two handed battle cleric build with Gorum for the diety? using chaos and destruction domains? That's what I made for my Pathfinder home game I'm trying to figure it out.
LOOK AT ME GORUM!
Amiri does make a surprisingly good Monster Tactician (worshipping Gorum of course).
Hrmmm I might have to do something with her
I actually have a fun vanilla Valerie build I've been using on my playthrough of PF KM but it'd be cool if you could show it off in a video just to make it more visible to people if they're looking for a good vanilla Valerie build and don't want to use mods.
Now Valerie is a fantastic character in vanilla as a tank, but she has a rough time putting out damage. I only have the build done up until level 11 so far because that's how far I am but feel free to expand upon it past that :D. This build allows her to remain tanky while bumping her damage output. She's one of my strongest characters right now for damage.
Lvl 1 - Default
Lvl 2 - Fighter. Weapon Focus Bastard Sword. 2 Ranks Kn. Arcana
Lvl 3 - Fighter. Combat Reflexes. 1 Rank Kn. Arcana 1 Rank Mobility
Lvl 4 - Fighter. Weapon Specialization Bastard Sword. 1 Rank Kn. Arcana. 1 Rank Mobility. +1 Stat Dex
Lvl 5 - Sorcerer. Draconic Bloodline (any, I chose Copper). Combat Casting (sorc bonus), Arcane Armor Training. Spells - Shield, Enlarge Person. 1 Rank Kn. Arcana, 1 Rank Mobility
Lvl 6 - Dragon Disciple. At this point skill ranks can go anywhere. I tend to just go straight perception / stealth at this point with just 1 point into trickery so she can at least try)
Lvl 7 - Dragon Disciple. Arcane Armor Mastery, Blind Fight (bloodline),
Lvl 8 - Dragon Disciple, Spell - Expeditious Retreat. +1 Stat point Int (gives her a bunch of extra skills :D)
Lvl 9 - Dragon Disciple, Outflank, Spell - Mirror Image
Lvl 10 - Rogue (thug archetype)
Lvl 11 - Rogue. Improved Critical Bastard Sword. Combat Trick Power Attack.
My Valerie is hitting a lot better at this point thanks to the extra strength from Dragon Disciple. The Shield spell is quite nice to have so she can 2 hand her Bastard Sword and still retain a solid AC. I still have her running around in the Mithral Full plate you can buy early on just because of the lower spell faliure chance and Mirror Image is a great spell to have on a high AC character to take their AC that extra mile even though she doesn't get many images. My plan is to just take her up to level 4 Rogue for Uncanny Dodge because it's nice to have, and then after that I don't really have much of a plan for her.
Love your content. This is in your NO MODS playlist but you use mods right? I’m a rookie here but I thought the only way to reset a companions first level is through mods?
Could you make a basic human wizard for main character?
Like with starbucks and ugg boots and an iPhone x?
@@ArcaneAgent woosh for me on that. Hoping for something simple that a novice to Pathfinder can follow and use effectively.
I shall work on it
I love this doing the companion build recently picked up the game and wanted to know all these strats... ALso can you do a pure rogue build with like daggers to do back stab and stuff thank you man you are the best
I think I could make a full rogue...
I'd love to see a Maegar Varn build for the Varnhold's Lot DLC... He just keeps dying on me and I think he could use a new build. Then again, maybe I just suck. :-P
Maybe I suck
So I just started playing this. Haven't made into the first act yet (lol). My main character basically is a Slayer Archer and my party right now is: me (ranger slayer) + amiri + valerie + dwarf cleric I've forgot the name + the bard (also forgot her name).
I was thinking to make my Valerie the tank of the party but I'm not sure if its a good idea. Any suggestion for a tankier companion build?
Valerie is a good tank, you can use her how she is built or respecc her the way I did in my Valerie video
@@ArcaneAgent Thanks. I couldn't watch the video yesterday but I'll watch now. Just gotta be careful to avoid spoilers
It looks great but I can do it with any character no matter who he/she is. Valerie starts with tower shield specialist so why respec her if this is her original class? That's not necessarily Valerie build rather character with her model and portrait because of the amount of third party programs included. You even change ability points. It has nothing to do with actual character progression because at this point i can change every npc to suit my needs
Now would This build work with other finnese weapons like a dagger or a kukri?
Yeah
Awesome, Now I want that build for my character. Also, you think you would ever do flavor character builds, like characters from books etc??
Like Drizzt builds ?
@@ArcaneAgent I don't know what that is, but I meant something like making a Kvothe (from "the name of the wind") or lets make a Geralt of Rivia. That kind of thing
Drizzt is a DnD Forgotten Realms book character, that has made it into a couple of cRPGs as well. But yes, make a Spider Man character lol, webs people up
This build is great will use it for my main wanted to do a Aldori/Rouge sec Tank and this is what i wanted to be with him. ^^
So glad that like 99 percent of the comments on these videos are positive
How are you getting to take combat trick twice? It wont let me select it the second time
Well that's weird, to this day I can still do it
@@ArcaneAgent i have eldriche arcana and call of the wild mods added, could one of those be the cause?
Edit: apparently call of the wild is the culprit
Cursed mods!
I appreciate this build, tower shields are fugly, lol. To bad I can't give her 3 Paladin levels though, might be a pretty good build for the MC too (with 3 Paladin levels).
A tower shield fighter is still awesome
Can you make a build without a rogue? :D :D
no u do not understand, rogue is like bones in the body u cant go without it
Yes, I have made many
Haha
@@k.satori6502 what happend when you break a rogue? did you put him in the gypsum?
How did you respec with Bag of tricks active and not end up with an extras 25 skill points? I am forced to turn off Bag of tricks each time I wish to respec which is rather bothersome. I am all ears.
I am not sure honestly. It just worked
Hey bud! So with the EE the aldori swordlord prestige class seem to have a lot of overlap with this build. Do you think we can combine them somehow?
Probably . ive got to play more with that prestige class
Does this build make her tank if not who should I use as.my.tank
I would use her as a tank, or any dex based character
@@ArcaneAgent I mean this build is she still tanky?
Even more tanky
U can't do this with her on ps4 can u I play on ps4.so ima have find builds.for my companions based off what they are set as
I really wish the makers of this game would include a more efficient way of knowing what talents unlock other talents. i know that they show you what talents and requirements are required to unlock a talent, but that means that i need to look at the entire list of talents every time i want to build something, and ive only been playing pathfinder for a few months. And so every time i theory craft i feel like i have to refer to the ENTIRE encyclopedia of pathfinder just to satisfy my desire to min max things in games.
key word: efficiently
IF the talents available (choosable at a given moment) showed every talent that it unlocks, i could more efficiently look through the list of unlearned talents to make better choices for the late game
a game with Zero respec options outside of mods needs to give me a frickin bone here. also im grateful there are mods, and i use them.
YOU on the other hand might not want this, because my ignorance turns into your views and sub counts lawl
thanks for your videos
I still have to look through the interwebs for what to do, and what spell does what
Really loving your builds. I'm trying a Eldritch Knight with greatsword but i'm not 100% on it. Any suggestions?
What classes are you using to qualify for eldritch knight
@@ArcaneAgent Fighter and Magus currently. But I'm not very good at maximizing my builds.
I prefer the Magus over Wizard because of the magic weapon ability. I see that you tend to dip into other classes which isn't something I generally do when i'm making characters due to old habits.
Magus has a slower attack bonus, and slower spell progression than a straight Wizard Eldritch Knight
@@ArcaneAgent Okay, i'll try that. Any recommended dips?
Is it really a Valerie build if you respec her out of her starting class, and you put her at a stat allotment that you litterally can't get except for on your main character? :thinking:
Maybe if you like to re roll
Those will saves though....
Make her a Sylvan sorceress after that she kicked butt
OK so i did this build on Valerie , bought the Frost Dueling Sword, and went to try out what she can do...SHE MISSES ALL THE TIME....i mention i am only on lvl 9 i didnt get to lvl 10...she cannot hit a 50 hp bear ...it s true the bear misses also but wtf man what did i do wrong....maybe it s the version 1.3 varnholds lot that i am playing ...pls help
I have no idea, whats your attack role?
@@ArcaneAgent well it is like this : Attack result 12 + 3 modifier something in the middle of that ....target armor class 32 or 22.miss..it says there with red that -3 is power attack and -3 combat expertise...aaaaand 50 hp bear just killed valerie...is there something that i do not do right? EDIT : i am kind of noob on this game and it is hard for me to answer what you need to know thank you
Maybe dont use power attack and combat expertise, you'll gain 6 attack roll
@@ArcaneAgent thank you i will try it out
You go bro
Very happy to see this build is that broken at level 10 lol
And I didn't even have the best equipped items on for her
With this as your tank, I’m pretty sure you could change your let’s play difficulty to hard. Can’t make it too easy where’s the fun in that xD
Probably
How to I do something like this on ps4?
When you get to olegs trading post, there is a woman named Anoriel Eight Eyes. She can respecc ya
Arcane Agent, hello I am a big fan of the build's that you make for Pathfinder Kingmaker.And I would like your expertise on putting together a build,I would like to run a base class of Druid-defender of the true world.And four levels of Magus- eldritch scion, I would really like your help on this and I would be eternally grateful.So thank you in advance, and you are always saying that you want a challenge
Nerd commando rescued Valerie build years before. Built her in to thug.
K
Breaking the game!?!
Yee
More companion builds please ^^
Jubilost next
I think the most interesting part of this Build, is that she can now use "Liquid Plays" Spells ua-cam.com/video/FM3lmoEer0g/v-deo.html
Every one of these builds comes up short by 2 ability points. I take it that the developer took away those 2 points...?
Are you using a mercenary?
@@ArcaneAgent No, was using Valerie. Just got into the game, and now I can't respec her ability scores at all. Edit: forget to click the '+20' ability points in the respec mod. So, to be clear, this is what her ability scores wind up being: STR 13, DEX 17 (15+2), CON 10, INT 14, WIZ 10, CHA 14. Edit #2: need to use the +25 option to reach your build. Got it now...thanks for the wonderful build!
Hey no problem !
no shield?
Thug and monk and duelistttt
@@ArcaneAgent yea but i mean for early on, she kinda needs it
Sure
How about league of legend yasuo build?
Why waste 14 points for int?
You need 13 points in intelligence for combat expertise. The extra point was just so I could have more skills per level
lets get some f for the second guy.
alive but alway forgoten
ps:I belive valerie have 27 or so stats points (that what internet is telling)
Darn internets
Nok nok biter scratcher build(Vivisectionist multiclass) he has a stupid dex score.
Sadly you completely lost me with respecing her. The challenge is to make the companions strong as is as Valerie can be one of the strongest with just a single class. Making her a Fighter 1 Eldritch Scion magus (abyssal) (all of the rest) makes her incredibly strong especially if you complete her companion quest as she ends up with a base 22 str and 17 charisma.
Hey...thats a friggin great idea. I'll try it. Although I still HATE the fact the starts with 19 con.
I plan on making a better Valerie build as I go, I just HATE that she starts at level 1 as a tower shield fighter as its the WORST fighter in my opinion
Tower shield fighter has 1 major trick. The tower shield armor training allows for very high dex mods in very heavy armor as it overrides the usual dex limit on it. I made a Fighter 15/ Knifemaster 4/ Trad Monk 1 crane style tank using a kukri and tower shield that (partially due to the insanely good kukris in the game) Did 1d4+2d8+I think 2d8 elemental at those levels you can wear full plate and have a +9 dex mod.
Still makes it a terrible choice for Val and her 13 dex though.
Exactly, she's doo doo broken for Tower shield. They should have let them all be level 1, and given you their backstories, and then just given you alignment restrictions or whatever.
She's stated to be a Paladin, but is just garbage
I'm sorry. I don't mean to offend but you don't think it's a slightly little bit cheating? I mean she have the original 20 points, mercenaries have 20 points, giving her 25... dunno I couldn't do it :) but sweet build thnnxx
Where's jaethal!!! Lol
awesome broken build XDD
One of my favorites
Old school dnd 3.5 gave exp penalty for dipping. Pathfinder in this game way too loose.
Tru
it's not even that i don't like rogue, it's that thug is just so good that you gimp yourself not taking it. it's kinda like how every other build also takes a level in monk. I don't like being bottlenecked by the game mechanics. even worse the monk builds bottleneck your alignments too so if you want max tank stats you have to be lawful good or no 5 dodge robe. they fucked up not letting you use magic device to bypass item restrictions, that was a godsend in nwn2. it's just total nonsense that 1 point dip in a class=10+ free ac.
that being said, valerie is kinda thuggish if we're being honest. she dislikes art, the thinks the paladin order devoted to a god of beauty is wrong by virtue of its existance, and sees direct force as the best way to solve problems. also she's lawful neutral and basically just serves the lord of the land as long as he's not too much of a bastard, which is basically what a thug in anyone's service would be. I know there's some regent events where if you put her in charge she drives some people out of the village because they weren't following the letter of the law. that's def something a thug would do. it makes sense for her to be aldori since she seemed like she was an apprentice of that lady that gave you your barony, though honestly I'm more a fan of her being a standard fighter she doesn't seem like the dueling sword type.
That's the whole issue with some of the DnD games. If you really like short swords at level 1 you spec short swords, then at level 12 you find the friggin Blackrazor and its a longsword and youre hating your character because you wasted a feat on short swords