Good vid, 0.4kg between the propel pro and the advanced one. Did not expect that. Price difference is still salient. 5,500 vs 3,800 (now discounted). The advanced one is a good deal now.
This video is great thankyou and the Giant Propel would be on top of my list if looking for a new bike. For comparison my 2018 Cannondale Synapse (rim brakes) in what I call ready to race trim, bottle cages, pedals, even an Italian bicycle mirror weights in at 7.84kg, my TCR Advanced Disc Pro weights in at 7.97kg with the same specs and groupset (Ultegra Mechanical). Both bikes have aluminum wheels and plenty of bar tape and padding for comfort.
I think it's incredibly shady for giant to not list weights for their bikes on their website saying bike weights can differ. That's a load of bull. You're selling a prebuilt combo of parts, to say a build in a M/L size will be ___ kg wouldn't hurt anyone.
As consumers, we'd definitely like to see that. The manufacturers are usually keen on giving the consumers what they want, but I'm betting there have been past market consequences for claimed weights. In particular, there's a huge temptation to exaggerate (lie) and that generates controversy.
Interesting. I've only done a quick scan, so may have missed it, but didn't see weight mentioned on Specialized, Cannondale, Orbea, Cervelo, Bianchi, Pinarello websites (stopped looking after that). I can see it on Trek's, but then there is a disclaimer that says "Bike and frame weights are based on pre-production painted frames at time of publication. Weights may vary in final production." i.e. don't rely on this quoted weight being the actual weight of the bike you get. Giant are the only ones that give a reason for not putting the weight, the others seem to simply ignore it altogether. I understand that for some people the weight is a key feature, which is why we did this video and will do more like it, but I think it is harsh to single Giant out for not listing the bikes weight as they are not alone. Thanks for the comment, and next time I'm visiting Giant I'll try ask about the lack of weight info on the site and see if I can find out more.
A year later but it is indeed on the website. Propel advanced 1 at 8,5kg. I also own one and I can confirm. 8.4kg once you change the tires to something better - and you will.
Do the tubeless tires have sealant in them? I just bought a TCR PRO 0 sive ML sent the left crank arm to 4iiii for a power meter, plus sealant in the tires. With cages & pedals plus garmin mounts 7.83KG
My 2018 , cheapest carbon frame, Canyon Endurace Disc is 8,6 kg with bottle cages, small lights and the wahoo bolt out front mount on. It’s Shimano 105 and also has aluminum Mavic 32 wheels that’s quite heavy. Guess I could take that bike down one kilo by spending 1500 upgrading wheels to lightweight carbon, handlebars carbon. Why are modern bikes so heavy???
Mainly because the Rival is damn heavy and then disc brakes in general add also weight. I can only speak for the Giant Advanced. Swapping out wheels, tires and cranks took me down to around 7.4 kg (no padels).
Good vid, 0.4kg between the propel pro and the advanced one. Did not expect that. Price difference is still salient. 5,500 vs 3,800 (now discounted). The advanced one is a good deal now.
Great video and nice results!
Thank you!
This video is great thankyou and the Giant Propel would be on top of my list if looking for a new bike. For comparison my 2018 Cannondale Synapse (rim brakes) in what I call ready to race trim, bottle cages, pedals, even an Italian bicycle mirror weights in at 7.84kg, my TCR Advanced Disc Pro weights in at 7.97kg with the same specs and groupset (Ultegra Mechanical). Both bikes have aluminum wheels and plenty of bar tape and padding for comfort.
I think it's incredibly shady for giant to not list weights for their bikes on their website saying bike weights can differ. That's a load of bull. You're selling a prebuilt combo of parts, to say a build in a M/L size will be ___ kg wouldn't hurt anyone.
As consumers, we'd definitely like to see that. The manufacturers are usually keen on giving the consumers what they want, but I'm betting there have been past market consequences for claimed weights. In particular, there's a huge temptation to exaggerate (lie) and that generates controversy.
Interesting. I've only done a quick scan, so may have missed it, but didn't see weight mentioned on Specialized, Cannondale, Orbea, Cervelo, Bianchi, Pinarello websites (stopped looking after that). I can see it on Trek's, but then there is a disclaimer that says "Bike and frame weights are based on pre-production painted frames at time of publication. Weights may vary in final production." i.e. don't rely on this quoted weight being the actual weight of the bike you get. Giant are the only ones that give a reason for not putting the weight, the others seem to simply ignore it altogether. I understand that for some people the weight is a key feature, which is why we did this video and will do more like it, but I think it is harsh to single Giant out for not listing the bikes weight as they are not alone. Thanks for the comment, and next time I'm visiting Giant I'll try ask about the lack of weight info on the site and see if I can find out more.
I think they do have it now on their website.
Go on there Asian sites all the weights are there
A year later but it is indeed on the website. Propel advanced 1 at 8,5kg. I also own one and I can confirm. 8.4kg once you change the tires to something better - and you will.
Any weight info on the adv pro 0 di2 in size M? Thanks for the video.
7.71kg. Size Small, Di2 Ultegra. Weighed with Dura Ace pedals, wahoo front wheel sensor, Giant computer mount, Garmin Varia 515 mount. Swapped in: Specialized Mirror Carbon Rail saddle, Carbon Giant 100mm Stem (stock is AL), Dura Ace Cassette.
Thank you for amazing video.
Good job 👍 Ive search a lot for such a comparison. Please let us know what were the sizes of the bikes.
Do the tubeless tires have sealant in them? I just bought a TCR PRO 0 sive ML sent the left crank arm to 4iiii for a power meter, plus sealant in the tires.
With cages & pedals plus garmin mounts 7.83KG
what size frame was the colnago please
My new propel is en route and I can’t wait to unbox and review it…I have the red one on the way in small…what size was the one you tested?
Both M/L in the test. You're going to love it!
@@wecycle384 Iam going to order adv pro 0. Do you know weight of that Giant in M/L size?
Sizes?
That giant advanced..🥵 I have a dura ace 9170 groupset waiting for the day I can afford the frameset.
oooh, that would make a very nice bike indeed!
What was Orca Aero size? 53 or 55?
Spending 4k + on a 9kg bike is crazy to me. If I imagine I would have to loose 2 more kg of body weight that would cost me quite some power.
My 2018 , cheapest carbon frame, Canyon Endurace Disc is 8,6 kg with bottle cages, small lights and the wahoo bolt out front mount on. It’s Shimano 105 and also has aluminum Mavic 32 wheels that’s quite heavy. Guess I could take that bike down one kilo by spending 1500 upgrading wheels to lightweight carbon, handlebars carbon. Why are modern bikes so heavy???
Mainly because the Rival is damn heavy and then disc brakes in general add also weight. I can only speak for the Giant Advanced. Swapping out wheels, tires and cranks took me down to around 7.4 kg (no padels).
Nice video. Debating on wether or not to get the advanced pro 1 disc. How is the red in person? Can you see much orange in the paint?