The best comment I ever heard about the TCR was from a retailer in the UK called PEDALON. Was chatting with the owner and he referred to an old VW to advert. This was where when a salesman was asked about other brands and kept answering “like aGolf” until the customer says “why don’t I just buy a golf?” He said it’s the same with theTCR, every time I get asked about any other brand I keep saying “like a TCR”. If you want the best all round bike, just buy a Giant TCR Advanced, the end.
Strangely, the Defy line up doesn't have many cost-effective options. It seems the Defy is aimed at a market of older people with more money, and the integrated cables seem to add to the price. The TCR has cheaper options...
Tough to beat the TCR for performance and value. In the USA the model with 12 speed 105 Di2 and carbon wheels is US$3,500. Also the easiest to travel with because the non integrated headset/stem.
i have both the propel and tcr and the only difference between the two is the tcr is more agile and handles better. Nothing wrong with either bike. I would climb using the propel, and i would use he tcr for flats. I like the switch between the two occassionally just o shake things up a bit and break the monotony
@@stevocanuck If TCR have Propel handlebar/cockpit and wheelset they will be the same on flats and downhills and TCR will be probably faster on climbs?
@@Pablo_Coach most likely they will be the same if both athletes are the same. Keep in mind heavier riders ride r faster on the flats and descents so it won’t matter if you’re on a propel or not
"Performance oriented*, not "orientated" and "Pro-pel*, not "pro-pal". And dropped seatstays do not reduce vibrations! Let alone "significantly"! They are just a currently popular design feature same as too-tight, too-short pant legs on business suits. In a few years, seat stays will be back to being connected to the seat collar, and I bet some marketing department already has a silly claim why they're gonna be "more aero/compliant/stiffer/light-weight" or whatever than the previous dropped stays.
@@Pablo_Coach At my age (+50) and type of riding ("speedy recreational"), I do not care too much for aero features. The TCR (any version with a non-integrated seatpost) is a much better-looking bike and its geometry would fit my riding style much better. The Propel is for those who like a "Formula One" look on their bikes or ride competitively.
The best comment I ever heard about the TCR was from a retailer in the UK called PEDALON. Was chatting with the owner and he referred to an old VW to advert. This was where when a salesman was asked about other brands and kept answering “like aGolf” until the customer says “why don’t I just buy a golf?” He said it’s the same with theTCR, every time I get asked about any other brand I keep saying “like a TCR”. If you want the best all round bike, just buy a Giant TCR Advanced, the end.
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Strangely, the Defy line up doesn't have many cost-effective options. It seems the Defy is aimed at a market of older people with more money, and the integrated cables seem to add to the price. The TCR has cheaper options...
Not all older people have more money. But most older people should ride more endurance range bikes IMO.
such a good and informative video🔥
Tough to beat the TCR for performance and value. In the USA the model with 12 speed 105 Di2 and carbon wheels is US$3,500. Also the easiest to travel with because the non integrated headset/stem.
The same Model is currently in Sale for 2400 Euros. It‘s really tempting
Very solid!
Just looked at a TCR Advanced 1 for $2900 yesterday 105 Di2 for 3k, it's a bargain
i have contend because its the best for my budget lol
1:15- killer bike, fast everywhere, and very versatile. Giant puts out sweet, no bs bikes.
i have both the propel and tcr and the only difference between the two is the tcr is more agile and handles better. Nothing wrong with either bike. I would climb using the propel, and i would use he tcr for flats. I like the switch between the two occassionally just o shake things up a bit and break the monotony
So the Propel is’n faster on flats and downhills than TCR because of better aero optimization? Of course it depend of wheelset too
@@Pablo_Coach propel is quicker on flats and downhill.
@@stevocanuck If TCR have Propel handlebar/cockpit and wheelset they will be the same on flats and downhills and TCR will be probably faster on climbs?
@@Pablo_Coach most likely they will be the same if both athletes are the same. Keep in mind heavier riders ride r faster on the flats and descents so it won’t matter if you’re on a propel or not
Perfect breakdown, thank you
Very helpful video that helped me to understand the Giant range, thank you!
Howzit Boet! Thanks for the great video
Merida Scultura 😋
Solid video 👍👍👍
Just too full of marketing jibber-jabber.
When he says, '€11,599, but all in all still great value ...' you know it's a shill.
He is the employ of Giant?
Much cheaper outside of Europe.
"Performance oriented*, not "orientated" and "Pro-pel*, not "pro-pal". And dropped seatstays do not reduce vibrations! Let alone "significantly"! They are just a currently popular design feature same as too-tight, too-short pant legs on business suits. In a few years, seat stays will be back to being connected to the seat collar, and I bet some marketing department already has a silly claim why they're gonna be "more aero/compliant/stiffer/light-weight" or whatever than the previous dropped stays.
Good point👍 What do You think about aero difference for Propel vs TCR frames? (Only frameset and bar, without wheels)??
@@Pablo_Coach At my age (+50) and type of riding ("speedy recreational"), I do not care too much for aero features. The TCR (any version with a non-integrated seatpost) is a much better-looking bike and its geometry would fit my riding style much better. The Propel is for those who like a "Formula One" look on their bikes or ride competitively.