I normally skip videos about post processing as I try to get it right in the field. Any post processing for me is slight adjustments on exposure, shadows, highlights on Lightroom and that's it. This video has shown full capabilities of post processing and will explore Lightroom further. Thanks for this very insightful video.
Thanks Wajid, yes I do very much try to keep any post-processing I do subtle and keep things looking natural, I'm certainly not a big fan of over-edited photography. I'm glad you found this useful! Sam.
@@BosePhotography Hi Sam. Just read from one of your other comments to someone else that you are a pharmacologist/physiologist. That's awesome. I am a pharmacist, so some similarities. I do photography on Sunday mornings in London to escape the busy life...great hobby.
@@wajidqureshi4105 Ah great! Yes, I'm always surprised how many photographers are also scientists, I suppose the combination of technicality and art suits the scientifically minded! Hannah is also from a scientific background (she works as a vet). I spend most of my time in the lab (I'm a post-doctoral scientist at the University of Oxford) so I need the photography as an escape at the weekends!
Thanks mate, glad you found it useful! Hope the bluebell search is going well, I've not been able to make it out for the past few weeks but hopefully will get back out into the woods again soon! S.
@@BosePhotography well I’ve sounds some nice comps, but the bluebells seem to be holding off this year. The ground is littered shoots, I think the frosty mornings has been holding them back
Ah, hopefully they'll pop up soon! I have a couple of local spots in mind, but I might head back to Badbury Hill again at some point too, I think that is supposed to be a good area.
Thank you Andrew! Ah, it's not so bad once you get the hang of it. Mind you, you can pretty much do everything in Lightroom now anyway, especially since they introduced luminosity masks. Sam
Thanks! I didn't know about luminosity masks. I'll check how to do it in Affinity Photo because I prefered to pay only Ligthroom and have more storage and pay just once in my life for AP.
Hi, glad you found it useful! If you have Lightroom, it does now actually have a feature called 'range mask' that is the same as using luminosity masks. When you add a filter in LR, scroll to the bottom of the filter adjustments panel and turn range masks on, there is a slider that you can then use to adjust. It works just as well! I haven't used AP before so I'm not sure what the best options are for using luminosity masks with it. S.
@@BosePhotography Wow that's awesome, thanks for answering!!! Affinity Photo is commonly known as a replacement for PS but they actually try to sell it like a different tool, but you know people, always want to compare. AP has a separate module for Photo Manipulation and RAW development, so it's just different from Adobe ones.
Interesting to see your process. I tend to use Lightroom more having originally come from Adobe Bridge when I got my first digital SLR. Like yourself I'm interested in the science of the editing (I studied Astrophysics at Uni back in the 90s).
Thank you Russ, ah, another scientist! I'm afraid I'm a pharmacologist/physiologist so astrophysics is a bit beyond my comprehension, but I do do a lot of electrophysiology so at least there's still some physics involved! I'd definitely recommend Alex Nails's videos if you haven't checked them yet, he is also very much a 'naturalistic' processor, which I certainly appreciate a lot. S.
Why the 16:9? Is that a standard starting point of size for future possible sizes? Wouldn't yhou want to edit the colors in the largest version possible, so if you want to make multiple different sizes, they would have the same color settings?
You can of course leave the cropping to the last step if you think you might want to try a different crop at a later date, but I prefer to crop in Lightroom before moving to photoshop. A lot of the local edits I make in photoshop are dependent upon the crop, and personally I like to decide on the crop as the first step as it then sets the mood and feel for the image. I very rarely change my mind on a crop once it's set, and if I do, I'd normally prefer to go back and re-edit the image anyway to suit the new crop format, but it's personal preference.
Thanks for this walk through. Very nice and I'll have to watch more vids/subscribe in the future. Got a Q regarding the save process that you touched on at the end of your vid. I do bird photography and am just starting to learn PS. I use Sony gear and use Capture One to convert my RAW files. Then I do all my edits in PS. I'd been trying to decide what files to keep. Now, I cull with PhotoMechanic (mac os) and export my RAWS keepers to a raw folder. They sit there in one lump. I then do edits and PS and save my TIFF with all edits to breakdown folders where those RAWs are. I use the name for the TIFFs as the RAWs so I know which ones are the same photo. The breakdown folders organize my shots by location and then break them into species. So if I location had woodpeckers and swallows there'd be a folder for each. Usually, I don't completely process all the RAWs I kept as keepers. I do a few and will work on some others as time allows. When I do finish my PS work, I export at a TIFF with all but sharpening (I was told sharpening applied to a larger image will not look right if you reduce the size of the image by a lot). So I save the image with all adjustment except sharpening as a full size TIFF. (This way I have the RAW to completely start over on - and a TIFF with edits to just make some changes to my existing work if need be). Then, I apply sharpening and kick out one JPG full size. Then create a online-use smaller image with sharpening applied as well. So in the end I have one untouched RAW, one full-sized unsharpened TIFF, a full-size JPG sharpened and a small JPG sharpened. Not sure if this is all necessary or the best way. Your thoughts/suggestions? TIA.
Hi Joel, thank you very much for your comment! I think everyone seems to find their own way to organise/save their files, and actually your process seems similar to mine. I keep all my RAW files from a shoot in a folder specific to that shoot. In Lightroom, I star the images that I think are worth editing, I'll do a first pass and add one star to any images with potential, then go back over a few times and increase the rating until I have chosen the images that I want to process fully. These I will then edit in LR and PS. Just like you, I will keep an edited TIFF file with all of the edit layers so if I want to go back and change something later I can do this easily, these files are normally just saved in the same folder as all of the RAW files with the same name as the RAW, but I can easily sort the folder based on the file extension to find these images. Once I am happy with an edit, I then create two folders within the first, one for full resolution, Prophoto RGB TIFFs where I have saved everything onto a single layer (these I consider my 'master' files and are my source if I am printing or submitting to a competition) and one for resized sRGB JPEGs that I will publish to the web or put into a YT video. My web JPEGs are normally saved at 1500-2400px on the longer side depending on where they're being published. With regards sharpening, I may add a bit of local sharpening to the image that will get saved into the full resolution TIFF, but for web JPEGs I may apply extra global sharpening (there is a 'sharpen for web' feature in TK actions that I use for this), but do not do this to the TIFF. My workflow is just what I have got used to, so maybe not the best, but it is just how I like to organise things and I find it easy to come back to my images at a later date. I am also very guilty of never wanting to delete RAW files, just in case I come back later to the collection and find a gem that I missed at the time. This drives Hannah mad as it takes up a lot of storage, especially with wildlife photography where I may have hundreds of RAW files, but I just can't bring myself to delete the files permanently! By the way, my friend Julian Baird has done some excellent videos on his file saving/storage/backup workflow that I'd recommend checking out (I think his method is more organised than mine!). ua-cam.com/video/JA_EHCTCmNk/v-deo.html So sorry for the long reply! Sam.
Thanks Sam good video. I have similar workflow for lightroom but although I am aware of TK Actions panel and others have yet to try one of these. Must say it looks awesome. I have just been using range masks in LR up to now. I was interested to see that you use the High Pass filter in Photoshop. From my graphic design days I have always used Unsharp mask, will have to look at that.
Thanks Ray, I meant to mention the LR range masks in the video but was getting worried about how long it was getting! They do a great job and I do normally use them when adding filters in LR. I really like using the TK actions panels though, they've made my PS workflow a lot easier and it's nice to have everything right at the touch of a button. Sam.
Hi Sam: I have found the TK8 panels easier to work with vs. the TK7 panels. The Colour Grading tool is particularly nice, and the scroll-over button recognition is a nice feature. I have been watching a lot of videos by Dave Kelly on how to use the TK8 panels ("TK Fridays"), but the videos that Sean Bagshaw sells are very helpful as well as he goes through each button. Cheers, Keith (Canada)
@@keithpinn152 thank you very much for that Keith, I might finally switch over this weekend and see how it goes! I’ll definitely check out Sean and Dave’s videos as well. S
Hi Sam: I am confident you won't be disappointed. Dave Kelly offers a 15% discount code (DK15) when you buy the panel and/or the videos by Sean Bagshaw.
Well done and well explained without any fluff.
Thank you, I'm glad you found it helpful!
I normally skip videos about post processing as I try to get it right in the field. Any post processing for me is slight adjustments on exposure, shadows, highlights on Lightroom and that's it. This video has shown full capabilities of post processing and will explore Lightroom further. Thanks for this very insightful video.
Thanks Wajid, yes I do very much try to keep any post-processing I do subtle and keep things looking natural, I'm certainly not a big fan of over-edited photography. I'm glad you found this useful! Sam.
@@BosePhotography Hi Sam. Just read from one of your other comments to someone else that you are a pharmacologist/physiologist. That's awesome. I am a pharmacist, so some similarities. I do photography on Sunday mornings in London to escape the busy life...great hobby.
@@wajidqureshi4105 Ah great! Yes, I'm always surprised how many photographers are also scientists, I suppose the combination of technicality and art suits the scientifically minded! Hannah is also from a scientific background (she works as a vet). I spend most of my time in the lab (I'm a post-doctoral scientist at the University of Oxford) so I need the photography as an escape at the weekends!
Thank you ever so much, awesome video. Points were concise which helped make this video enjoyable and easy to watch.
Thank you very much Douglas, really glad you found it useful! S.
Thank you Sam, nice to see your workflow, great job.
Thanks Steve! S.
Nicely done. Beautiful image.
Thank you Linda! That was an amazing morning when I took that image, just the briefest gap in the rain and that fleeting splash of light! S
Excellent, thanks for the insight
You're welcome Jeff, thank you for watching! S.
Great Post Processing Vlog, thanks for sharing
Thanks Tony, it was a bit overdue! Hopefully I’ll be back outside with the camera again in the next video though! Sam
Very helpful thanks 🙏
Glad you found it useful! Thank you!
Great video mate, very informative!
Thanks mate, glad you found it useful! Hope the bluebell search is going well, I've not been able to make it out for the past few weeks but hopefully will get back out into the woods again soon! S.
@@BosePhotography well I’ve sounds some nice comps, but the bluebells seem to be holding off this year. The ground is littered shoots, I think the frosty mornings has been holding them back
Ah, hopefully they'll pop up soon! I have a couple of local spots in mind, but I might head back to Badbury Hill again at some point too, I think that is supposed to be a good area.
Very well done that Sam, fantastic image and very interesting to see your workflow, great job mate
Thank you Lee! S.
Great bit of light and hills. Interesting to see your process but Photoshop is a foreign language to me, maybe one day :-)
Thank you Andrew! Ah, it's not so bad once you get the hang of it. Mind you, you can pretty much do everything in Lightroom now anyway, especially since they introduced luminosity masks. Sam
I like the before better. Love the coolness of it.
Thanks, I was a bit torn between whether to go cool or warm, but went with the warm in the end. Sorry the vid was a bit long btw! S
Thanks! I didn't know about luminosity masks. I'll check how to do it in Affinity Photo because I prefered to pay only Ligthroom and have more storage and pay just once in my life for AP.
Hi, glad you found it useful! If you have Lightroom, it does now actually have a feature called 'range mask' that is the same as using luminosity masks. When you add a filter in LR, scroll to the bottom of the filter adjustments panel and turn range masks on, there is a slider that you can then use to adjust. It works just as well! I haven't used AP before so I'm not sure what the best options are for using luminosity masks with it. S.
@@BosePhotography Wow that's awesome, thanks for answering!!!
Affinity Photo is commonly known as a replacement for PS but they actually try to sell it like a different tool, but you know people, always want to compare. AP has a separate module for Photo Manipulation and RAW development, so it's just different from Adobe ones.
Interesting to see your process. I tend to use Lightroom more having originally come from Adobe Bridge when I got my first digital SLR. Like yourself I'm interested in the science of the editing (I studied Astrophysics at Uni back in the 90s).
Thank you Russ, ah, another scientist! I'm afraid I'm a pharmacologist/physiologist so astrophysics is a bit beyond my comprehension, but I do do a lot of electrophysiology so at least there's still some physics involved! I'd definitely recommend Alex Nails's videos if you haven't checked them yet, he is also very much a 'naturalistic' processor, which I certainly appreciate a lot. S.
Why the 16:9? Is that a standard starting point of size for future possible sizes? Wouldn't yhou want to edit the colors in the largest version possible, so if you want to make multiple different sizes, they would have the same color settings?
You can of course leave the cropping to the last step if you think you might want to try a different crop at a later date, but I prefer to crop in Lightroom before moving to photoshop. A lot of the local edits I make in photoshop are dependent upon the crop, and personally I like to decide on the crop as the first step as it then sets the mood and feel for the image. I very rarely change my mind on a crop once it's set, and if I do, I'd normally prefer to go back and re-edit the image anyway to suit the new crop format, but it's personal preference.
Thanks for this walk through. Very nice and I'll have to watch more vids/subscribe in the future. Got a Q regarding the save process that you touched on at the end of your vid. I do bird photography and am just starting to learn PS. I use Sony gear and use Capture One to convert my RAW files. Then I do all my edits in PS. I'd been trying to decide what files to keep. Now, I cull with PhotoMechanic (mac os) and export my RAWS keepers to a raw folder. They sit there in one lump. I then do edits and PS and save my TIFF with all edits to breakdown folders where those RAWs are. I use the name for the TIFFs as the RAWs so I know which ones are the same photo. The breakdown folders organize my shots by location and then break them into species. So if I location had woodpeckers and swallows there'd be a folder for each. Usually, I don't completely process all the RAWs I kept as keepers. I do a few and will work on some others as time allows. When I do finish my PS work, I export at a TIFF with all but sharpening (I was told sharpening applied to a larger image will not look right if you reduce the size of the image by a lot). So I save the image with all adjustment except sharpening as a full size TIFF. (This way I have the RAW to completely start over on - and a TIFF with edits to just make some changes to my existing work if need be). Then, I apply sharpening and kick out one JPG full size. Then create a online-use smaller image with sharpening applied as well. So in the end I have one untouched RAW, one full-sized unsharpened TIFF, a full-size JPG sharpened and a small JPG sharpened. Not sure if this is all necessary or the best way. Your thoughts/suggestions? TIA.
Hi Joel, thank you very much for your comment! I think everyone seems to find their own way to organise/save their files, and actually your process seems similar to mine. I keep all my RAW files from a shoot in a folder specific to that shoot. In Lightroom, I star the images that I think are worth editing, I'll do a first pass and add one star to any images with potential, then go back over a few times and increase the rating until I have chosen the images that I want to process fully. These I will then edit in LR and PS.
Just like you, I will keep an edited TIFF file with all of the edit layers so if I want to go back and change something later I can do this easily, these files are normally just saved in the same folder as all of the RAW files with the same name as the RAW, but I can easily sort the folder based on the file extension to find these images. Once I am happy with an edit, I then create two folders within the first, one for full resolution, Prophoto RGB TIFFs where I have saved everything onto a single layer (these I consider my 'master' files and are my source if I am printing or submitting to a competition) and one for resized sRGB JPEGs that I will publish to the web or put into a YT video. My web JPEGs are normally saved at 1500-2400px on the longer side depending on where they're being published. With regards sharpening, I may add a bit of local sharpening to the image that will get saved into the full resolution TIFF, but for web JPEGs I may apply extra global sharpening (there is a 'sharpen for web' feature in TK actions that I use for this), but do not do this to the TIFF.
My workflow is just what I have got used to, so maybe not the best, but it is just how I like to organise things and I find it easy to come back to my images at a later date. I am also very guilty of never wanting to delete RAW files, just in case I come back later to the collection and find a gem that I missed at the time. This drives Hannah mad as it takes up a lot of storage, especially with wildlife photography where I may have hundreds of RAW files, but I just can't bring myself to delete the files permanently!
By the way, my friend Julian Baird has done some excellent videos on his file saving/storage/backup workflow that I'd recommend checking out (I think his method is more organised than mine!). ua-cam.com/video/JA_EHCTCmNk/v-deo.html
So sorry for the long reply!
Sam.
Good
Thanks Sam good video. I have similar workflow for lightroom but although I am aware of TK Actions panel and others have yet to try one of these. Must say it looks awesome. I have just been using range masks in LR up to now.
I was interested to see that you use the High Pass filter in Photoshop. From my graphic design days I have always used Unsharp mask, will have to look at that.
Thanks Ray, I meant to mention the LR range masks in the video but was getting worried about how long it was getting! They do a great job and I do normally use them when adding filters in LR. I really like using the TK actions panels though, they've made my PS workflow a lot easier and it's nice to have everything right at the touch of a button. Sam.
Hi Sam: Great video. I also use TK panels (Version 8). Have you upgraded to this panel yet?
Hi Keith, I have upgraded to the TK8 panel, but I haven't actually got around to using it yet! How have you found V8 compares to V7? S
Hi Sam: I have found the TK8 panels easier to work with vs. the TK7 panels. The Colour Grading tool is particularly nice, and the scroll-over button recognition is a nice feature. I have been watching a lot of videos by Dave Kelly on how to use the TK8 panels ("TK Fridays"), but the videos that Sean Bagshaw sells are very helpful as well as he goes through each button. Cheers, Keith (Canada)
@@keithpinn152 thank you very much for that Keith, I might finally switch over this weekend and see how it goes! I’ll definitely check out Sean and Dave’s videos as well. S
Hi Sam: I am confident you won't be disappointed. Dave Kelly offers a 15% discount code (DK15) when you buy the panel and/or the videos by Sean Bagshaw.
Shame about the audio.. I gave up trying to understand what you were saying..