I really did like Star Trek Enterprise. It seemed more realistic, in terms of space travel. Instead of just teleporting to the surface, they had to all pile inside a shuttlepod and fly down. The ship is more detailed, and has more life to it. No bright white flat walls on the NX-01. I liked it a lot, and it's a shame that it ended when it did.
Well, longer than its appearance in Star Trek: Enterprise, at least. It is now part of the Star Trek Online MMO for all time, & is considered a "Universe-Class Heavy Dreadnought." It's not sold anywhere in the game I've found, but if you're lucky somebody could be selling one on the Exchange - for about 1.5 BILLION "Energy Credits," which you can only get in-game (Unlike Zen - which you can buy with actual money - or Refined Dilithium - which you can sell your Zen for, if you've a mind to.) & so is VERY slow to accumulate. (Especially when you need it for so much stuff!) And the thing is HUGE! It might not seem so when you're flying it, because the game automatically scales your surroundings to make the ship you're on seem about average - though then more "regular" ships are almost invisible unless you're attacking them, because of how much smaller they are - but if you're flying something the size of the NX-01 & warp in under it, you can really tell just how much bigger the d*mn thing is. It can't move that fast - even at "Full Impulse" - but it's built like a tank & has a high number of forward AND aft weapon emplacements, so the thing is practically un-killable unless it's being swarmed.
It was stated that Season 5 would have the -Romulan War -2 more NX ships -Shran becoming a aux member of Enterprise -origins of the Borg & Borg queen -Continuation of the "Mirror Darkly story -Starfleet origins -We Find out T'Pol had a Romulan father just amazing storylines. Shame cause it seems all Trek shows come into their own at around season 4 and season 4 for Enterprise was the best sadly after the Temporal cold war and season long xindi stoy and UPN showing no interest people tuned out (damn DVR and Presidential elections).another thing that would have helped was that it was announced a reboot movie were to be made the next year in 2005 (movie didn't come out till 2009) but this would have helped the show since people were getting trek fever plus that with action packed season 5 Romulan war story and have the man Shran Jeffrey Combs on the enterprise would have been sweet
+BasqueNYC I'm right there with ya. Combs is an excellent and versatile actor. Shran was my favorite character on the show. Bakula and Combs made the early friendship of Archer and Shran so believable; Combs had some of the best lines. You could see the seeds of the Federation in their friendship. Combs' nuance gave hints that Shran recognized the value of Terran diplomacy, a glue that could bond together otherwise feuding worlds like Vulcan, Andoria, and Tellar. Shran was a visionary even before Archer, it seemed to me. I am *still* so frustrated that we didn't get to see this develop fully. Instead, they brought in Sirtis and Jonathan Frakes, who did a great job with a bad script, to tie up some of the loose ends of the characters' lives. Just sad. Yeah, and the Romulan War. That deserves one or two seasons all by itself.
+tiggergolah bro if season 5 was anything like the books on the Ronulan war it would have made the xindi look like kindergarten! I mean 4 NX ships launched and only 2 survive (one using the Sr. F destruct mode for the first time) and how The Vulcans,Andorians and Tellar will not get involved (although Shran does) I gotta re read them it been awhile also the whole issue of Trip "not dying" in the book "Good that Men Do" p.Enterprise being cancelled is...IMO a graves justice in TV history the show would hVe flourished look at all the other Trek shows those 1 and 2nd seasons are some unwatchable!.I am a big fan of TNG,DS9 but VOY threw me ingot better at (oddly) season 5 with the introduction of the "Borg Barbie" but still wasn't a diehard fan but their finale was Bitchin I gotta admit.Well Ivan only hope the next series is good but I really wish we got another 3 seasons of ENT,sadly we didn't a big "What If" n the Star Trek TV history
Seriously, the best thing that happened to Enterprise was its ratings getting so low that Berman and Braga gave up on it. So we got Season 3 which was okay at first, but then got really freaking good in the middle and end due in small part to Manny Coto. So they finally said screw it and basically gave the show to Manny Coto who delivered an excellent Season 4. Though I doubt they would've shown the origins of the Borg because the Borg were shown to already exist in the first two seasons of Enterprise where they dealt with leftovers from First Contact. They said it sent a distress signal to the Delta Quandrant, which, even in The Next Generation, the Federation hasn't explored much of.
When you put in a lot of filler instead of good storylines you risk cancellation. I like Enterprise, but there was plenty of dull filler. The Star Trek franchise seems to specialise in it. Hopefully Discovery will be different.
Enterprise became a good show when Discovery came out. Discovery became a good show when Picard came out. The Star Wars prequels became good once the sequels came out, the sequels will be good once the next trilogy comes out. People who go on line and refuse to shut up about how something sucks only hate it until the next thing comes along. Then the old thing was always an underrated gem.
It has slowly grown on me over the years, however I believe (and it is certainly true for me) that the style of the ships, the uniforms and the Tech just clashed with what we knew the canonical designs and styles of Starfleet Ships would become not even a century later. That combines with numerous anachronisms and far too much Time travel suchery.. Still, compared to STD and Pick-Hard, it is a better series.
@@mast3734uh, no. Sometimes a show or film has merits that are otherwise overlooked initially, but still has objective flaws. STD, Disney Star Wars etc are RIFE with such flaws, and have very little of merit to make up for it.
+G. I guess they built an experimental starship from Voyager's memory a few years after they returned. Desperate 4 ships the Federation pulled it out of retirement.
+James Kirk Well Starfleet still used miranda class ships that from what I gathered lunched around 2261 and in Star Trek Generations when The Enterprise D crew was rescued off of the planet you see a miranda class apart of the rescue effort and that took place during 2371. So that makes the miranda class around 110 years old.
It's not the door in Sisko's office (neither of them) You can see them in Prodigal Daughter (2:05) and Field of Fire (34:10) which shows the other side door. Also in Civil Defence (10:35) you see the door Garek walks through (when Kira shoots it) and it's the same one as in Sisko's office and they all have an angled pattern on them (they are all riveted though). They are nothing like the door on the Enterprise J. I flicked through a few episodes where they move about the station a lot and couldn't find it.
If we're being REALLY specific, it first appeared on the robot grain ships in The Animated Series, as those ships weren't based on the standard Starfleet saucer design.
LENTO VIOLENTO I was so angry when I found out T'Pol was going to discover she was in fact half Romulan in season 5. Now we'll never see how that was going to unfold.
Absolutely. I just mentioned one thing out of many. Some of my favourite episodes in TNG were with Romulans and I would have loves to see more of them in ENT. The NX01 refot would have been cool too.
One correction. Syfy was at the time (and still is) a main basic cable channel available with the default packages of 80% of the television in the US. U P N was a DYING network channel only founded a couple of years prior and wasn't available in nearly as many homes due to it's merger with the wb to become the CW. So it's no wonder BSG got better ratings.
Howard Casto If I remember correctly Enterprise was moved to a bad time slot too. I remember towards the end having a hard time watching Enterprise and Stargate SG-1, I believe the new episodes aired at the same time. I ended up watching the repeat of Enterprise later that night or the next day. The days before DVR's were truly trying times.... I said it a million times but Enterprise was truly an under-appreciated series, I would have loved a 5th Season and for them to explore the 2156-2160 time frame, which covered the war with the Romulians.
+chrisloUSA It's not so much Enterprise which is unappreciated as much as it is season 3 and 4 which are, mostly as a result of the audience loosing its will to watch due to season 1 and 2.
Chris: Yeah, they moved Enterprise from a nice Wedneday slot to a terrible friday slot. I myself watched the repeat on Sunday, which is apparently what a lot of people did but the repeat viewership did not matter to UPN.
Much as I loved Enterprise, BSG was also far better written, and as others have mentioned, UPN sent it there to die after Paramount sent the show there (I remember there being several times our affiliate was just off the air during broadcasts, *including the pilot*).
Looks like a Stillsuit from Dune's fremen people, which is part of why its odd on Daniels. Stillsuits are water recyclers for desert dwellers, but Daniels, as a time traveler, presumably has no need for such a thing, therefore it looks dumb.
My favorite thing about the enterprise j is any comparison of scale image. It’s just so massive and ridiculous. People complain about jj abrams arbitrarily increasing scale but wow... this thing is just insane.
Why doesn't the Federation make battleships instead of Love Boats with weapons arrays? Loss of a -D or -J is huge. Avoiding wars isn't something that they succeeded with too often.
There's a theory that said Daniels brought Archer to a holodeck to convince him and that the ships shown were hastily recreated from another temporal operatives findings, whom happens to be a Vulcan on voyager.
Well, according to STO at the very least, Starfleet took inspiration from the original Dauntless, and used the detailed scans that Voyager recorded in order to make a ship class with similar capabilities, putting it into service around the same time as the Enterprise F's Odyssey class.
The Dauntless was a Quantum Slipstream Ship, ergo it's shape was optimised for QS, which explains the Feds making a copy and that copy then influencing future Ship Designs
Star Trek Online added this as a T6 ship called Universe Temporal Heavy Dreadnought Cruiser. Also the Enterprise-J does appear in a few missions, and captained by one of Dax's future Trill hosts.
I know this is 10 months old but I gotta say, you have to consider the sheer size of the Enterprise-J compared to the other ships. stoheidy.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/enterprise-j.gif?w=640
I was worried Enterprise would fall to the 7-season curse that previous Trek shows had suffered from,... but we didn't even get that far. And yes, Enterprise's fourth season was awesome. I'll put it up against TNG's third season, or ANY season from Voyager.
Same here. Next to the incomparable classic TOS, Enterprise was my favorite. I just think it captured the spirit of TOS far better than any of the others.
Pretty sure the door they said is reused from DS9, is the one on either side of Sisko's office, on the station. Once you enter the office, they'll be on either side of the room.
Or it could have been one of the ones shown in this video. I think he said "redress" or something... meaning it wouldn't have looked exactly the same, it may have been altered. Reused doesn't mean identically reused, after all.
I personally like the design of the Enterprise J, it's plain and to the point! Seeing a series with this as the main ship would be awesome, but we know it won't happen :'(
"Oh whatever. Alt-eye-ear sounds better." But...But...No it doesn't...it's literally just supposed to be "alt-air," said as a single word. pls. My head. I can't.
It seems he just wanted to make an Assassin's Creed shoutout. But yeah, Altair is the name of a star. Please, people... don't pronounce it the way some 1000 year old dude in the middle east pronounced it in a video game, kthxplz.
@@gfox9295 But... it IS an Arabic origin word. The star is based on the original word in Arabic. It's not just an Assassin's Creed thing. They were being historically accurate/relevant by using that word as a name, but their use and pronunciation was correct. Then the star was named after the Arabic origin, and the ship after that. So the Arabic use/pronunciation is correct.
@@Galiant2010 as someone who lived in Japan for a few years as a kid and used to try and get people to say things like Karaoke and Harakiri correctly once I'd moved back here to the states (when most Americans butcher the pronunciation of those two words especially), I understand what you're saying, but... sometimes the Anglicized version of a word is just so predominant that it becomes the correct version. Like how slang words almost always eventually become "real" words in English. I still haven't given up on .GIF with a "j" sound instead of a "g" sound (since the creation of that was only in the 1980s--recent enough that we should still be able to be true to the original intention!), however. ;D
Apparently, the writers & producers had no idea how long the Xindi Mission was going to take following the Season 2 Finale. According to either Berman or Braga, they were winging it on the sequence of events. I wished they'd done the Romulan War.
Really? I have to disagree. I liked the idea of a season-long arc, and it's the closest Trek has come to being properly serialized (even more so than DS9). It might have been handled clumsily at times, but it's actually one of my favourite seasons of Star Trek. I honestly believe it was the paint-by-numbers, safe play of the first two seasons that killed Enterprise, dropping its viewership before coming out with a solid third season and a truly great fourth season, the latter of which actually explored what the show should have been about from the beginning (the birth of the Federation).
Nonsense. Season 3 of ENT was the best Trek season outside of DS9. They were venturing into new territory with a new alien race, and there were actual, well-thought out plot and character arcs where both sides of the conflict were changed by the events of the saga when it was over. And they actually resolved the conflict creatively, rather than just firing CGI weapons at each other, rehashing tired technobabble about damage on decks x through y, and talking about jettisoning the warp core. Despite the nature of ENT as a somewhat poorly conceived prequel, the Xindi arc actually pushed the boundaries of Star Trek, with new alien races and, more importantly, new plot concepts. Rather than just going back and revisiting tired, old stuff that the studio executives think the fans will automatically like because of nostalgia.
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HOLD ON: At the 5:28 mark you talk about subsequent designs of Federation ships omitting the "neck element" between saucer and engineering hulls starting with the Nebula Class. But Hark! Hast thou not heardest of the "Reliant" from Start Trek: The Wrath of Khan. It was a Miranda class vessel that also had no neck design, AND, like the Nebula class, supported the nacelles below the saucer section to make it visually distinct from the Enterprise. Caught ya!
ajmittendorf but the Miranda class didn’t have a secondary hull, it was just a saucer section with lower pylons supporting the warp nacelles. The Nebula class has two hull sections, one on top of the other, look at the 4:45 mark.
The beginning of tTrp yelling at his sister still gets me. The saddest part in the whole series is where he dumps everything at T'Pol and started crying. T'Pols reaction was so golden it made me emotional too. Enterprise was one of the best Star Trek Series ever made in my opinion. The way the Characters evolved over the series is amazing
Something I don't think you mentioned witch could explain the similarities between the Enterprise, and The Enterprise J, they were both designed by the same guy, Doug Drexler. So, he designed the first, and the last, so far!
You're completely right. Kinda stupid. Looks like the federation ended up liking the design of the ship after Voyager returned home... that's the only explanation I can think of.
it couldn't be that the show runner's took random, gently used models and stuffed them into this 3 minute sequence, knowing only pendant on the internet would care. Like us, lol.
Do you, guys, realize that the creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money? The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete. In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres. Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot. It was all just "splatted together", more or less. So all those speculations of yours about Federation's deciding on using Dauntless or not were completely futile and pointless.
+Gwiber WurmChild Yes, fledging. It nearly exclusively aired reruns and third rate syndicated shows for the first several years. Around 2001, they made a big push to rebrand and provide quality original programing like a proper channel.
The book Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein was published in 1959. it's different from the movie on so many levels I can only tell you to read the book to understand just how off the movie was. But I digress. That book was published in 1959 and to my knowledge was the first piece of literature in which people traveled through space, and were launched out of a ship in a suit of power armor that resembles the Master Chief and Iron Man having a love baby. they were launched out of these ships ODST style. This kind of story was never published before and litterally blew people's minds. So I'd say since Starship Troopers was published in 1959, not to mention all the alien comics, books, magazine novels, and so on. I'd say Sci Fi has been around at least 60 years. To summarise, READ STARSHIP TROOPERS!
I heard someplace, that late 19th early 20th century sci fi was called "scientific romance", and not sci fi. Not sure when the term sci fi started to be used.
TBH Enterprise J is my favorite enterprise. It is enormous, futuristic (in all senses of the word) and because of that brief appearance it is mysterious, and that gets me.
The "this is to scale" shot wasnt to scale at all .. the Enterprise J is MUCH larger then the other ships its like Borg Cube big ....its supoes to have a city on it with a academy and vehicles on it for transprtation "Within" the ship
Chris Tate I know this is old but star trek online lists it as the reason that they took design and decided to make it based off of the data voyager got from it from the their time in the delta quadrant.
Wait, the "No Neck" designs started with the Nebula Class? Putting aside the NX Class, wasn't the Miranda Class the first "No Neck" design some seventy odd years before TNG?
It's because the person who designed it wanted to rebel instead of making a starship that was a natural evolution between the Enterprise E and the 29th century ships. In other words, this design was an intentional failure but no one had enough time to change anything.
Meh, any teenage fan fiction writer can come up with a bigger, stupider starship with more weapons and faster engines than any predecessors in the Trek universe. I'd much rather a show have more modest ships and depend on stories and characters to keep our attention. The Defiant was a very interesting concept, but in the hands of Abrams' writers it would have been hopelessly lame. It became such an iconic ship not because it was powerful, but because DS9's writers made it an integral part of the Dominion War stories.
Jacob Hoss When I first saw it I thought Defiant would be a seriously cool ship. But it turned out to have more flaws than even the TOS Enterprise. Shit was always breaking, if it wasn't one thing it was another. As far as using old ship designs, as long as the latest and greatest tech could be retrofitted there is no reason why the physical structure couldn't last hundreds of years. Alot of the things that plague current aircraft and navel ships and wear out the hull/airframe are not a factor in space. When a ship is retired you just put it in a parking orbit somewhere. Need a ship for some specialty work? Just look over the inventory and pick the hull best suited for the job, do what upgrades are needed, slap a new warp core in it and boom! you have a ship ready to go. Much cheaper and faster than a purpose-built ship and you don't have to pull a ship out of service to be reconfigured to suit the new job.
I realy hate it when a good TV show for me like this is stoped because some US People with the Rating Equipment don't like it. There has to be a better way of Rating such thinks Worldwide.
The problem was the first two seasons. People hated the simple plot lines and the fact that it was episode length storylines that didn't connect to each other or have an effect on the rest of the show. The third and fourth seasons were beginning to get viewers again but the producers and studio had already decided to cancel the show by then. Which I hate since I would have loved to see a fifth season that followed the Romulan war.
mrtheoden I didn't like the first two seasons for three reasons. 1. It didn't have much in the lines of consequences. Each episode was standalone pretty much other than the future war arc.This wouldn't be a problem if most of the episodes I didn't like. 2. The future war arc. It was not well thought out and made no real sense most of the times they brought it up.They didn't even give future guy a good name. They should have actually known what they were going to do with that arc before putting there. 3. They had already done all this before. The first two seasons seemed like an attempt to redo the original series. But I don't want to see a redo I want to see a new series with its own stuff. Granted, this is all opinion and you are allowed to have your own feelings on this. Interesting to see someone who differs in my opinion. And Personally I love the second two seasons for the most part. I would have loved to see a fifth and sixth season go over the Rommulan war and final formation of the Federation.
oh well I guess I'm more forgiving. Just consider that nearly all of the other Star Trek franchises lacked season arcs and had episode to episode stories. The future war arc had to be mentioned, but also deliberately vague for obvious reasons. There was nothing wrong with the name "Daniels" either.
mrtheoden I'll admit that the time war had some interesting concepts to it. I guess I would have liked for it to have it more thought out. It kinda felt like stuff just didn't click in it. Though I loved the first two episodes of the fourth season where they went to WW2 AMerica and that was a time war story. I think a major plus would have been if the time war actually had prevalence over most of the episodes. Like forcing them to stop a major attack by the future guy or stop an attempt to fracture relations between humans and vulcans. as for the story thing. Thats a personal preference for me. I like overarching stories over episode by episode things. Why I liked DS9 a lot.
OpenMawProductions I think so. I never made that connection until I was skimming through Forbidden Planet in prep for the original Enterprise video I'm working on.
TheSorrel It is, but i'd wager Gene would have been plugging in a Forbidden Planet reference given that it influenced TOS so heavily during conceptualization.
+numberyellow Over the first several years, the Sci-Fi Channel was primarily the dumping spot for reruns. During the early 2000s, it was in the early days of trying to push original content. I consider that fledgling.
Consider AMC. For years and years, it showed old movies. Then one day it was showing Mad Men and Breaking Bad. When it started showing hour-long dramas, it was basically having a mid-life career change and could be considered fledgling. Starting all over again, reborn. etc. As Junkball says, Sci-Fi was a whole different sort of channel in the 90s than what it became by the time of BSG and Caprica and all.
Great work! I got here after looking up info on Star Trek Discovery. Got extremely disappointed when I learned that it's another prequel. At least we got that hallway though, haha!
CBS basically had no choice but to make a prequel, as the current way the franchise is split between CBS and Paramount made almost everything Post-TNG as part of Paramount's movie license, as CBS only had control of television properties. so Post-Voyager was off the table. Even if they were to try, you still have the problem of how the 25th Century is already featured in Star Trek Online. Utilizing any of those designs (the uniforms, the ships, etc) would require royalties paid to Cryptic Studios and Perfect World Entertainment. Conversely, if they set it in that era and DON'T use any of those designs, then that basically invalidates STO's place in the timeline and breaks the license that they hold. So, that era is off the table. Only other option then would be 26th Century,.. which means Time Travel, and the Enterprise-J.... and seriously, would you REALLY want to see that? Haven't we gotten enough of the Temporal Cold War?
I found it ridiculous the fact that in Enterprise showed in the Battle of Procyon V vessels such as the Prometheus-class, Nova-class and Dauntless-class vessels apparently participating in the battle, That would be like having Daedalus-class vessels (launched 2196ce) participating in the Dominion war. (Prometheus-class launched 2375, Battle of Procyon V 2554ce, 179 years difference; Dauntless-class launched 2196ce, Dominion war 2373-2375), 179 years difference). It was poor writing and laziness on the part of the CGI team.
Like how the miranda was still kicking around in tng, and the results refits/retrofits excelsior went through? Slap a fresh coat of paint and install some new pipes and the house sells. Same concept. Install new systems, upgrade existing systems if applicable, fresh paint, time to boogie. Starfleet has a tendency to mothball old ships and bring them back later. If you need ships fast, mothball fleets are an exceptional method of getting them. Its how TNG had so few at wolf 359 to fight the borg, but ds9 had hundreds of ships to take back the station from the dominion. If you watch close enough, they have constitution and miranda classes in the battle for ds9. Starfleet also had been preparing antiborg fleets which is why they had cancelled designs and a surprising number of newer ship classes there too. It took a long time to build and crew those ships, pulling the oldies out brings you new ships in as little as a month. Some new shields, a new core, maybe newer fusion generators and some new phaser banks, vs design phase, testing phase, shakedown, refit, shakedown, refit, shakedown, refit, full service. If youre not putting a warp core thats orders of magnitude too powerful for your diminutive vessel, that is. Defiant had to be redesigned and refit a few times to address the "shake"down cruise. A lot of work goes into classing a new ship. Ent-e took years to build. It still wasnt done when battle of sector 001 happened. Dauntless was built primarily to be a fast cruiser. Prometheus was specifically made with battle in mind. These ships were built to be brawlers, keeping them updated whenever the locals got squirrelly wouldnt be a bad idea. Klingons, Romulans, etc... theres always somebody tryin to ice skate uphill. Its very possible 300 year old ships could be called in for help, so 179 year old spaceframes is no problem.
The creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money. That is all. The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete. In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres. Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot in spite of the fact that the team had finished the work on at least that one single model. It was all just "splatted together", more or less, and the CG guys simply used renderings of the "newest" ships they already had at hand at the time. So all those speculations about Federation's using those incredibly old ships are completely futile and pointless.
The Xindi were 5 races from the same home world (six if you count the one extinct one) not an alliance of species from different worlds! Personally I thought it was a great show. How about that Discovery class huh?
It was upgraded into a design which can be used in combat as the USS Rhode Island. It was commanded by Harry kim in a future timeline and fought off a Klingon Neg'var class ship so that Janeway could go back in time to deal with the Borg.
The creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money. That is all. The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete. In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres. Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot in spite of the fact that the team had finished the work on at least that one single model. It was all just "splatted together", more or less. So all those speculations about Federation's using those incredibly old ships were completely futile and pointless.
Wow, seeing those 3 ships in a 26th century battle would imply they've been around at least 120 years, if not quite a bit longer. That's... That seems kinda desperate. I mean, it's worse than seeing Miranda and Excelsior class ships in the DS9 fleet battles in terms of age...
The Procyon 5 battle is explained in STO to be a battle in which both sides used forces from their future and pasts as reinforcements or something, with one of the main objectives in the battle for the player in the dungeon version of the battle being to shut enemy time portals or some shit. It's really far out there and I struggled to understand the missions of that episode with the time travel bollocks as I did them, honestly.
Technogeist I never did that one in STO... But I guess that would make sense... Sort of. For a storyline based around time travel. I mean, the gameplay in STO rarely makes sense because... 'game' elements seem to overtake any kind of logic... But whatever. (I mean, the amount of missions where by the end of it you've fought like 30-40 ships is rather absurd if you think it through. Not to mention the respawning and stuff...)
I honestly just looked up the new time travel episodes on youtube, the wikis, and even reddit and cannot find a good explanation of their story, and since I struggled to understand it myself, the only way I see to really figure it out is to play them yourself and pay a lot of attention, lol. It's very mind boggling. I think it makes the most sense if you've played or seen the first set of tutorial missions for the TOS federation character, followed by, I think, the agents of yesterday missions, and finished with the future proof episode. I THINK. I'm really not sure what order that shit is supposed to be in, it's very badly explained, with stuff like Chekov and other elements just coming out of nowhere.
The creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money. That is all. The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete. In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres. Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot in spite of the fact that the team had finished the work on at least that one single model. It was all just "splatted together", more or less, and the CG guys simply used renderings of the "newest" ships they already had at hand at the time. So all those speculations about Federation's using those incredibly old ships are completely futile and pointless.
Your interpretation of Star Trek is the best. You have Idyllic mode like Gene Roddenberry and you oppose the degrading Ironic interpretations. Thanks!🎉
Actually in Star Trek Online (which i believe is canon?) the federation have began production of the dauntless class as it had a unique hull design that was supposedly useful... So it is now a Starfleet Vessel
I like how Daniels casually introduces it as the Enterprise....Enterprise J and pauses for effect, even though that designation should literally mean nothing to Archer at this point.
Ambassador all the way. It perfectly combines the retro look of the classic Constitution with the upgraded technology features of the Excelsior and later designs.
I guess Janeway persuaded them to make a real one. They did still have the quantum slipstream technology, even if they couldn't get it to work at the time.
+Linkatchu I watched the episode afterwards and the dauntless is an alien ship. however whether it became a ship later on, no idea. it's possible but unsure.
It was just a reused ship model that they had no intention of people to immediately notice or care about. This would not be the first time Star Trek had used models that were never intended to be noticed, including virtually every hulk at Wolf 359
Oh I have seen it too and it will not win any beauty contests either... Looks like the bastard child of a D7 and a excelsior class... Makes a girl both chuckle and gag xD
Meh I don't care lol Yeah the JJ constitution looks ok but its a bit too big in STO though. The future federation ships all look terrible to me, too thin looking and just so unfed like. At least the discovery looks like a ship and not a modern art abortion.
One of my friends compared the Discovery to a hubcap and now I can never unsee that, always gonna think of the ship like that unless they make some MAJOR changes. Never did play STO, is it worthwhile?
I didn't mind the series, but, that design was not around at the time. The bulky, homely Daedalus-Class was. The NX-Classes were built around the mid 22nd Century, while the last Daedalus-Class was retired in 2196, with ZERO mention of the Daedalus in ST:E... I was so pissed that they didn't use that style of ship, the Enterprise was banned from my home until the series ended...
At 9:35 the reused doors were the Habitat Ring turbolift doors of Deep Space 9 and were also the cargo doors for in DS9 episode "Statistical Probabilities". The red doors are shown quite a lot in season 6.
Because the 1701 was designed in the 1960's, when our impression of sci-fi at the time was flying saucers, rocketships, and tin can robots. Hell, by the time The Original Series concluded, we still hadn't even landed on the Moon for the first time yet. Hell, when Star Trek's pilot episode began production, we hadn't even performed a spacewalk or orbital rendezvous yet.
They did a lot "right". Just imagine yourself... with no knowledge of the ST-franchise... being born as a son of an inventor, whom you look up to... no experience whatsoever with alien liveforms (except for vulcans, who were... kinda strange back then, due to romulan influence, and a Denobulan doctor... granted, Archer made some mistakes (ans some of them could have been avoided), BUT: at his time, there was no Kirk, there was no Picard, there was no "Prime Directive". He made decisions of his own... he made desicions (however wrong they may have been), bevause he was "just human". Anf that's something that makes him special... Kirk had the "Prime Directive", along with about 100 years of Starfleet-experience, Picard was (as good, as he was as a Captain), just "too good"..., with 995 of the time playing it safe, and hiding behind Starfleet-regulations. But Archer had none of that. Granted, bringing a dog along wasn't the greatest idea, but at least he was human/relatable... he didn't need Kirk's combat-skills (or the ability to confuse a computer), or his high-ranking-comtacts (like Picards... well, except for Admiral Nechayev), or even the support of higher beings (either "Q", or the prophets/wormhole-aliens). In short: Yeah, ENT didn't always do "right" (the temporal cold war is another story...", but it did a lot of things right. As for the Enterprise J ... Apart from the looks, we don't know anything about this ship. For all we know, it could just be a freighter. But I wouldn't tell it's design "rushed"...
Benjamin Schäfer-Schmidt someday I'll see all of enterprise but I found archer to be the least relatable out of all the captains which was one of many faults i had that kept me from watching it.
Funny thing about Nelix... I feel like he was maybe the most "Star Trek" of Star Trek characters on Voyager. He didn't know what he was getting into, he was way under qualified for the experiences, but he had an innocence and eagerness to help others that was in line with the Star Trek message. When everyone else was shitting their pants dying to get back to the alpha quadrant he was moving further away from his home, but the whole time he was happy and wide eyed.
I always envisioned the Enterprise J as something the size of an average continent. Each side of the saucer section could dock two ships each, roughly the size of Enterprise E. From the main bridge back to the nacells, there would be staggered bays housing advanced Runabouts, Defiant class ships, and almost one thousand stingers.... small overpowered combat ships. Very maneuverable, and very hard to target. The saucer section is still detachable. The primary haul slows to 1/4 impulse while the docking clamps release. The saucer section stays ion place while thrusters push off the main haul. As for the main haul, there are three options for propulsion; impulse, warp, and slipstream. Impulse we all know. Warp is for when you have to cover a long distance in a short amount of time. Slipstream is for when you have to get there now! Like, right now! It's powered by the engine, appearing as a dome of light between the nacells on the main haul. It sucks up power quickly, so it's used in only the most extreme emergencies.
Battlestar Galactica had 3.5 million viewers for its premiere episode. They didn't stay that high. It's ratings were very comparable by the time this Enterprise episode aired. More so when you consider scifi was in 93% of US homes.
This ship also appears in Star Trek online as a Universe Class ship. Originaly known as J Type and was intended to be called the Altair Class but thanks to the STO playerbase and ofc a choice between trekyards boys and Doug Drexler the name Universe class was decided for the ship.
A poster, picture, of Enterprise 1701-J is seen on the wall of the Episode Azinti Prime battle scene with Archer and Daniels, in the 26th Century. Archer is seen looking at it while Daniels it talking. Season 3 Episode 18 or Episode 70 overall.
outfits Daniel's: yeah terrible what the heck is that even? Wesley: eeeh I mean it makes sense at least Man skirt: um? What? I mean sure if you want, it does look really odd though being a 1 piece dress jumper thing Riker: Training gear, sure. Kinda looks like Samurai armor Picard: Typical French style bathing suit, no problem Jake: Yeah all DS9 civilian clothes are weird Neelix: It's weird, but I don't hate it
I really did like Star Trek Enterprise. It seemed more realistic, in terms of space travel. Instead of just teleporting to the surface, they had to all pile inside a shuttlepod and fly down. The ship is more detailed, and has more life to it. No bright white flat walls on the NX-01. I liked it a lot, and it's a shame that it ended when it did.
plus Hoshi ❤️
I agree with you Enterprise was a very good show !
@@thischannelwillselfdestruc4977 The number 1 way to know you were in for a *weird* episode: Hoshi was the primary character!
i got into a BIG argument last-time for defending Enterprise & will still argue that it is the best Star Trek show since the original series.
Yeah I really appreciated the careful visual design that bridged the gap between present day nasa, and the aesthetic of the original series.
I love how this video about the Enterprise J is longer than the actual appearance of that ship.
Well, longer than its appearance in Star Trek: Enterprise, at least. It is now part of the Star Trek Online MMO for all time, & is considered a "Universe-Class Heavy Dreadnought." It's not sold anywhere in the game I've found, but if you're lucky somebody could be selling one on the Exchange - for about 1.5 BILLION "Energy Credits," which you can only get in-game (Unlike Zen - which you can buy with actual money - or Refined Dilithium - which you can sell your Zen for, if you've a mind to.) & so is VERY slow to accumulate. (Especially when you need it for so much stuff!)
And the thing is HUGE! It might not seem so when you're flying it, because the game automatically scales your surroundings to make the ship you're on seem about average - though then more "regular" ships are almost invisible unless you're attacking them, because of how much smaller they are - but if you're flying something the size of the NX-01 & warp in under it, you can really tell just how much bigger the d*mn thing is. It can't move that fast - even at "Full Impulse" - but it's built like a tank & has a high number of forward AND aft weapon emplacements, so the thing is practically un-killable unless it's being swarmed.
The video calls it the Enterprise J. It’s the Enterprise Jay. Easy mistake.
@@davfree9732 homer j. Simpson
"I'll finally know my middle name"
"My middle name is Jay!"
It was stated that Season 5 would have the
-Romulan War
-2 more NX ships
-Shran becoming a aux member of Enterprise
-origins of the Borg & Borg queen
-Continuation of the "Mirror Darkly story
-Starfleet origins
-We Find out T'Pol had a Romulan father just amazing storylines. Shame cause it seems all Trek shows come into their own at around season 4 and season 4 for Enterprise was the best sadly after the Temporal cold war and season long xindi stoy and UPN showing no interest people tuned out (damn DVR and Presidential elections).another thing that would have helped was that it was announced a reboot movie were to be made the next year in 2005 (movie didn't come out till 2009) but this would have helped the show since people were getting trek fever plus that with action packed season 5 Romulan war story and have the man Shran Jeffrey Combs on the enterprise would have been sweet
+BasqueNYC I'm right there with ya. Combs is an excellent and versatile actor. Shran was my favorite character on the show. Bakula and Combs made the early friendship of Archer and Shran so believable; Combs had some of the best lines. You could see the seeds of the Federation in their friendship. Combs' nuance gave hints that Shran recognized the value of Terran diplomacy, a glue that could bond together otherwise feuding worlds like Vulcan, Andoria, and Tellar. Shran was a visionary even before Archer, it seemed to me.
I am *still* so frustrated that we didn't get to see this develop fully. Instead, they brought in Sirtis and Jonathan Frakes, who did a great job with a bad script, to tie up some of the loose ends of the characters' lives. Just sad.
Yeah, and the Romulan War.
That deserves one or two seasons all by itself.
+tiggergolah bro if season 5 was anything like the books on the Ronulan war it would have made the xindi look like kindergarten! I mean 4 NX ships launched and only 2 survive (one using the Sr.
F destruct mode for the first time) and how The Vulcans,Andorians and Tellar will not get involved (although Shran does) I gotta re read them it been awhile also the whole issue of Trip "not dying" in the book "Good that Men Do" p.Enterprise being cancelled is...IMO a graves justice in TV history the show would hVe flourished look at all the other Trek shows those 1 and 2nd seasons are some unwatchable!.I am a big fan of TNG,DS9 but VOY threw me ingot better at (oddly) season 5 with the introduction of the "Borg Barbie" but still wasn't a diehard fan but their finale was Bitchin I gotta admit.Well Ivan only hope the next series is good but I really wish we got another 3 seasons of ENT,sadly we didn't a big "What If" n the Star Trek TV history
BasqueNYC
Those books sound good enough to buy. Can you tell me the titles?
Seriously, the best thing that happened to Enterprise was its ratings getting so low that Berman and Braga gave up on it. So we got Season 3 which was okay at first, but then got really freaking good in the middle and end due in small part to Manny Coto. So they finally said screw it and basically gave the show to Manny Coto who delivered an excellent Season 4. Though I doubt they would've shown the origins of the Borg because the Borg were shown to already exist in the first two seasons of Enterprise where they dealt with leftovers from First Contact. They said it sent a distress signal to the Delta Quandrant, which, even in The Next Generation, the Federation hasn't explored much of.
When you put in a lot of filler instead of good storylines you risk cancellation. I like Enterprise, but there was plenty of dull filler. The Star Trek franchise seems to specialise in it. Hopefully Discovery will be different.
The show continued on for 10 seasons... in an alternate timeline! That cracked me up.
You gotta love ALF joining the crew. LOL
indeed
when i heard it, i thought it was real. little did i know at that time
he had going for a few seconds with that one,alternate timeline was golden lololol
@@eldoradolou Reminded me of the Newgrounds USS Enterprise game where ALF is roommates with Wesley Crusher.
Don't know why Star Trek enterprise gets memed so hard. It was a good show.
But it had all been done before in the previous series.
As someone who has been marathoning star trek for a couple months now and is now halfway through S3 of enterprise: eehhhh
Enterprise became a good show when Discovery came out. Discovery became a good show when Picard came out. The Star Wars prequels became good once the sequels came out, the sequels will be good once the next trilogy comes out. People who go on line and refuse to shut up about how something sucks only hate it until the next thing comes along. Then the old thing was always an underrated gem.
It has slowly grown on me over the years, however I believe (and it is certainly true for me) that the style of the ships, the uniforms and the Tech just clashed with what we knew the canonical designs and styles of Starfleet Ships would become not even a century later.
That combines with numerous anachronisms and far too much Time travel suchery..
Still, compared to STD and Pick-Hard, it is a better series.
@@mast3734uh, no.
Sometimes a show or film has merits that are otherwise overlooked initially, but still has objective flaws.
STD, Disney Star Wars etc are RIFE with such flaws, and have very little of merit to make up for it.
Shout out goes to the Federation using 100 to 200 year old ships in a great war with time travelling beings. Good job :D
Well, with starfleet personal at the controls we know they are giving these ships all they have, Captain.
+James Kirk Maybe they were desperate & had 2 use museum ships.
+James Kirk They also apparently used a ship design that was just a skin on an alien vessel. Presumably from Voyager's logs?
+G. I guess they built an experimental starship from Voyager's memory a few years after they returned. Desperate 4 ships the Federation pulled it out of retirement.
+James Kirk Well Starfleet still used miranda class ships that from what I gathered lunched around 2261 and in Star Trek Generations when The Enterprise D crew was rescued off of the planet you see a miranda class apart of the rescue effort and that took place during 2371. So that makes the miranda class around 110 years old.
The door is in Captain Siskos office. It's the back door.
the real MVP
Michael Perret that's what I thought too. Are the ones in ops the same too?
Yes, I think they are. Like the one Garak uses to enter Ops when Ducat's anti-riot lockdown engages, season 3 episode 7.
Junkball Media says "But I couldn't find it" and i was like "Pfft... Not a real trek nerd".
It's not the door in Sisko's office (neither of them) You can see them in Prodigal Daughter (2:05) and Field of Fire (34:10) which shows the other side door. Also in Civil Defence (10:35) you see the door Garek walks through (when Kira shoots it) and it's the same one as in Sisko's office and they all have an angled pattern on them (they are all riveted though). They are nothing like the door on the Enterprise J. I flicked through a few episodes where they move about the station a lot and couldn't find it.
A small correction - The "no neck" design was first seen on the USS Reliant in Star Trek II.
If we're being REALLY specific, it first appeared on the robot grain ships in The Animated Series, as those ships weren't based on the standard Starfleet saucer design.
@@agquad You are correct sir! A good remeberer you are! Thank ye.
We was all robbed of a season 5, so much cool stuff was gonna happen, damn it.......
LENTO VIOLENTO Indeed... :-(
LENTO VIOLENTO I was so angry when I found out T'Pol was going to discover she was in fact half Romulan in season 5. Now we'll never see how that was going to unfold.
rochat forget that! what about the romulan war?
Absolutely. I just mentioned one thing out of many. Some of my favourite episodes in TNG were with Romulans and I would have loves to see more of them in ENT. The NX01 refot would have been cool too.
+rochat And season 6 origin the borg. season 7 conclusion. The beginning of the Original series with sulu at the helm............ :(
One correction. Syfy was at the time (and still is) a main basic cable channel available with the default packages of 80% of the television in the US. U P N was a DYING network channel only founded a couple of years prior and wasn't available in nearly as many homes due to it's merger with the wb to become the CW.
So it's no wonder BSG got better ratings.
Howard Casto If I remember correctly Enterprise was moved to a bad time slot too. I remember towards the end having a hard time watching Enterprise and Stargate SG-1, I believe the new episodes aired at the same time. I ended up watching the repeat of Enterprise later that night or the next day. The days before DVR's were truly trying times....
I said it a million times but Enterprise was truly an under-appreciated series, I would have loved a 5th Season and for them to explore the 2156-2160 time frame, which covered the war with the Romulians.
+chrisloUSA It's not so much Enterprise which is unappreciated as much as it is season 3 and 4 which are, mostly as a result of the audience loosing its will to watch due to season 1 and 2.
Chris: Yeah, they moved Enterprise from a nice Wedneday slot to a terrible friday slot. I myself watched the repeat on Sunday, which is apparently what a lot of people did but the repeat viewership did not matter to UPN.
And BSG was a significantly better show
Much as I loved Enterprise, BSG was also far better written, and as others have mentioned, UPN sent it there to die after Paramount sent the show there (I remember there being several times our affiliate was just off the air during broadcasts, *including the pilot*).
Honestly I dig Daniels' outfit...it's got a retro Dune theme, or something...I guess he just can't walk normally in it, lol
Same here it looked also close to the hellraiser cenobites and borg
It probably stiffens on impacts so he doesn't go flying. Instachair too. Tamed nanotech. Might even provide protection from ROCKS!
Looks like a Stillsuit from Dune's fremen people, which is part of why its odd on Daniels. Stillsuits are water recyclers for desert dwellers, but Daniels, as a time traveler, presumably has no need for such a thing, therefore it looks dumb.
My favorite thing about the enterprise j is any comparison of scale image. It’s just so massive and ridiculous. People complain about jj abrams arbitrarily increasing scale but wow... this thing is just insane.
you forgot to mention how huge the Enterprise J was.
Yea those images where not up to scale, the Enterprise E looked the same size as the D even though they're not even the same class...
Enterprise J used Interdimentional Technology to build a starship that's Bigger on the Inside than the outside.
@@markplott4820 Doctor Who fan theory confirmed lol.
Why doesn't the Federation make battleships instead of Love Boats with weapons arrays? Loss of a -D or -J is huge. Avoiding wars isn't something that they succeeded with too often.
There's a theory that said Daniels brought Archer to a holodeck to convince him and that the ships shown were hastily recreated from another temporal operatives findings, whom happens to be a Vulcan on voyager.
The "Dauntless" was most certainly NOT a Federation ship! Actually it was a nasty death trap for Voyagers' crew.
Well, according to STO at the very least, Starfleet took inspiration from the original Dauntless, and used the detailed scans that Voyager recorded in order to make a ship class with similar capabilities, putting it into service around the same time as the Enterprise F's Odyssey class.
Good looking model, bad retcon.
The Dauntless was a Quantum Slipstream Ship, ergo it's shape was optimised for QS, which explains the Feds making a copy and that copy then influencing future Ship Designs
Fun fact, it now _is_ a Federation ship :D
They made it a class it’s now a hero ship
"Part review, part retrospective, mostly just stuff..."
Yeah, it's 6am. I can live with that.
Star Trek Online added this as a T6 ship called Universe Temporal Heavy Dreadnought Cruiser. Also the Enterprise-J does appear in a few missions, and captained by one of Dax's future Trill hosts.
The Sovereign Class is my favorite class
Jimmy Owens same
Me too
The enterprise-f is my favorite
I still love the old Constitution class myself
mine too
I would so watch an episode about the first contact of the federation with Melmacians.
Their first question would be "Do you have earth cats onboard?"
Someone put an Enterprise in a sheet metal machine and squished it. Not bad but maybe a little too thin.
I know this is 10 months old but I gotta say, you have to consider the sheer size of the Enterprise-J compared to the other ships.
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it's a battle station ship!
No doubt. That saucer section looks like it's about two, three decks, tops. Must have a crew of about 50.
Is that a sarcastic comment?
+cgraham6
... you realize it's 5 times as long as the TNG Enterprise, and over 10 times Kirk's Enterprise, right?
The doors are from DS9 if you look closely you will see them in sisko's office.
I loved Enterprise, to bad it did not go onto 7 seasons at least.
You, my friend, rock. 😃
I felt by season four, it finally got it's legs and it became excellent Trek. Shame it didn't get another season.
I was worried Enterprise would fall to the 7-season curse that previous Trek shows had suffered from,... but we didn't even get that far. And yes, Enterprise's fourth season was awesome. I'll put it up against TNG's third season, or ANY season from Voyager.
@@dankeefer6876 fk
Same here. Next to the incomparable classic TOS, Enterprise was my favorite. I just think it captured the spirit of TOS far better than any of the others.
Your usage of Donkey Kong Country music in the interlude made my day.
Pretty sure the door they said is reused from DS9, is the one on either side of Sisko's office, on the station. Once you enter the office, they'll be on either side of the room.
Or it could have been one of the ones shown in this video. I think he said "redress" or something... meaning it wouldn't have looked exactly the same, it may have been altered. Reused doesn't mean identically reused, after all.
I personally like the design of the Enterprise J, it's plain and to the point! Seeing a series with this as the main ship would be awesome, but we know it won't happen :'(
"Oh whatever. Alt-eye-ear sounds better."
But...But...No it doesn't...it's literally just supposed to be "alt-air," said as a single word. pls. My head. I can't.
It seems he just wanted to make an Assassin's Creed shoutout.
But yeah, Altair is the name of a star. Please, people... don't pronounce it the way some 1000 year old dude in the middle east pronounced it in a video game, kthxplz.
Ul-ta-eer
@@gfox9295 But... it IS an Arabic origin word. The star is based on the original word in Arabic. It's not just an Assassin's Creed thing. They were being historically accurate/relevant by using that word as a name, but their use and pronunciation was correct. Then the star was named after the Arabic origin, and the ship after that. So the Arabic use/pronunciation is correct.
@@Galiant2010 as someone who lived in Japan for a few years as a kid and used to try and get people to say things like Karaoke and Harakiri correctly once I'd moved back here to the states (when most Americans butcher the pronunciation of those two words especially), I understand what you're saying, but... sometimes the Anglicized version of a word is just so predominant that it becomes the correct version. Like how slang words almost always eventually become "real" words in English.
I still haven't given up on .GIF with a "j" sound instead of a "g" sound (since the creation of that was only in the 1980s--recent enough that we should still be able to be true to the original intention!), however. ;D
Altair IV = "Forbidden Planet" *sigh*
So excited and I'm not even through this video.... Haven't ever cared to watch the "Enterprise" show so yay for this 11 minutes!
Season 3 destroyed Enterprise, The Xindi should have been a 4 part episode and then been done with, then start the Romulan War
Apparently, the writers & producers had no idea how long the Xindi Mission was going to take following the Season 2 Finale. According to either Berman or Braga, they were winging it on the sequence of events. I wished they'd done the Romulan War.
Really? I have to disagree. I liked the idea of a season-long arc, and it's the closest Trek has come to being properly serialized (even more so than DS9). It might have been handled clumsily at times, but it's actually one of my favourite seasons of Star Trek. I honestly believe it was the paint-by-numbers, safe play of the first two seasons that killed Enterprise, dropping its viewership before coming out with a solid third season and a truly great fourth season, the latter of which actually explored what the show should have been about from the beginning (the birth of the Federation).
It looks like a SW ship!
The Final Frontier Enterprise, that is.
Nonsense. Season 3 of ENT was the best Trek season outside of DS9. They were venturing into new territory with a new alien race, and there were actual, well-thought out plot and character arcs where both sides of the conflict were changed by the events of the saga when it was over. And they actually resolved the conflict creatively, rather than just firing CGI weapons at each other, rehashing tired technobabble about damage on decks x through y, and talking about jettisoning the warp core. Despite the nature of ENT as a somewhat poorly conceived prequel, the Xindi arc actually pushed the boundaries of Star Trek, with new alien races and, more importantly, new plot concepts. Rather than just going back and revisiting tired, old stuff that the studio executives think the fans will automatically like because of nostalgia.
Your format, no matter what the topic is addictive. But you already knew that
This channel is awesome. The J was massive. I'd love to see the technical specs on that thing.
Bravo!! I’m thoroughly enjoying each of your wonderful, highly informative, enriching, & entertaining videos on these amazing vessels!! Please keep up the exciting, excellent work, it all id so greatly appreciated!! Again, thank you for bringing us these cool information videos. A friend, Michael
These are fucking great.
+Phillguy Glad you like them. They're fun to make.
HOLD ON: At the 5:28 mark you talk about subsequent designs of Federation ships omitting the "neck element" between saucer and engineering hulls starting with the Nebula Class. But Hark! Hast thou not heardest of the "Reliant" from Start Trek: The Wrath of Khan. It was a Miranda class vessel that also had no neck design, AND, like the Nebula class, supported the nacelles below the saucer section to make it visually distinct from the Enterprise. Caught ya!
ajmittendorf but the Miranda class didn’t have a secondary hull, it was just a saucer section with lower pylons supporting the warp nacelles. The Nebula class has two hull sections, one on top of the other, look at the 4:45 mark.
Are you gonna make a video on Star Trek Online's Enterprise-F.
Im hoping he will
I like your thinking!
JBM should!! Like these comments for enterprise-f video!!
@@holdyup1037 I made my comment 5 years ago. Its good to see he did it and it didn't dissapoint!
I loved the random "Daniels' Outfit is Awful" interlude. So out of the blue, I actually laughed 😆
I lost my shit at that Val Kilmer remark.
The beginning of tTrp yelling at his sister still gets me.
The saddest part in the whole series is where he dumps everything at T'Pol and started crying. T'Pols reaction was so golden it made me emotional too.
Enterprise was one of the best Star Trek Series ever made in my opinion. The way the Characters evolved over the series is amazing
Something I don't think you mentioned witch could explain the similarities between the Enterprise, and The Enterprise J, they were both designed by the same guy, Doug Drexler. So, he designed the first, and the last, so far!
I totally enjoy what you provide. The ships and everything amazing.
I was happy for the naked Vulcan. I mean Troy made me a teenager and T'pol made me a man
i feel like there is some red letter media influence here and it makes me smile.
Wasn't the Duantless-class a fake ship used against Voyager and not a real federation ship class?
You're completely right. Kinda stupid. Looks like the federation ended up liking the design of the ship after Voyager returned home... that's the only explanation I can think of.
it couldn't be that the show runner's took random, gently used models and stuffed them into this 3 minute sequence, knowing only pendant on the internet would care.
Like us, lol.
177SCmaro it was also the name of the galaxy class ship you started out on in the video game bridge commander
Do you, guys, realize that the creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money?
The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete.
In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres.
Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot.
It was all just "splatted together", more or less.
So all those speculations of yours about Federation's deciding on using Dauntless or not were completely futile and pointless.
The Val Kilmer reference has aged like fine milk! Congrats!
Daniel's outfit looks like a still suit from dune
ALL the outfits are AWESOME!
Correct.
Fledgling? Sci Fi had been around. 15 years or so by this time?
+Gwiber WurmChild Yes, fledging. It nearly exclusively aired reruns and third rate syndicated shows for the first several years. Around 2001, they made a big push to rebrand and provide quality original programing like a proper channel.
The book Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein was published in 1959. it's different from the movie on so many levels I can only tell you to read the book to understand just how off the movie was. But I digress.
That book was published in 1959 and to my knowledge was the first piece of literature in which people traveled through space, and were launched out of a ship in a suit of power armor that resembles the Master Chief and Iron Man having a love baby. they were launched out of these ships ODST style. This kind of story was never published before and litterally blew people's minds.
So I'd say since Starship Troopers was published in 1959, not to mention all the alien comics, books, magazine novels, and so on. I'd say Sci Fi has been around at least 60 years.
To summarise, READ STARSHIP TROOPERS!
+charles ryanlee I meant the channel. Not the genre.
I heard someplace, that late 19th early 20th century sci fi was called "scientific romance", and not sci fi. Not sure when the term sci fi started to be used.
thats when the scifi channel when shit, it was best before all the rebranding crap and stopping all the great shows
TBH Enterprise J is my favorite enterprise. It is enormous, futuristic (in all senses of the word) and because of that brief appearance it is mysterious, and that gets me.
It's like the Cylons build it.
The "this is to scale" shot wasnt to scale at all .. the Enterprise J is MUCH larger then the other ships its like Borg Cube big ....its supoes to have a city on it with a academy and vehicles on it for transprtation "Within" the ship
Neelix's outfit is pure awesome. The cut is great. Imagine it in tatooed leather.
Might be worth mentioning that the Dauntless class is not a federation ship (unless star fleet decide to build it using info from Voyager
Chris Tate I know this is old but star trek online lists it as the reason that they took design and decided to make it based off of the data voyager got from it from the their time in the delta quadrant.
Wait, the "No Neck" designs started with the Nebula Class? Putting aside the NX Class, wasn't the Miranda Class the first "No Neck" design some seventy odd years before TNG?
Enterprise J is a pretty ugly ship. All the other Enterprises, when viewed from the side, look like a bird in flight.
It's because the person who designed it wanted to rebel instead of making a starship that was a natural evolution between the Enterprise E and the 29th century ships. In other words, this design was an intentional failure but no one had enough time to change anything.
dr_batman_md no, not the enterprise D
dr_batman_md or C
GeorgeMonet really? Not true, this is an evolution. Ships aren’t going to stay looking like the sovereign class
J looks like a bird.
After it's run over by a Suburban.
Whether you like the J or not, she must have had some serious firepower. I would have loved to see it in action. Cheers.
i know your comment is old but try playing star trek online in some missions you see it in action
Meh, any teenage fan fiction writer can come up with a bigger, stupider starship with more weapons and faster engines than any predecessors in the Trek universe. I'd much rather a show have more modest ships and depend on stories and characters to keep our attention. The Defiant was a very interesting concept, but in the hands of Abrams' writers it would have been hopelessly lame. It became such an iconic ship not because it was powerful, but because DS9's writers made it an integral part of the Dominion War stories.
RobotWookiee to bad she won't exist with the new timeline
Jacob Hoss When I first saw it I thought Defiant would be a seriously cool ship. But it turned out to have more flaws than even the TOS Enterprise. Shit was always breaking, if it wasn't one thing it was another.
As far as using old ship designs, as long as the latest and greatest tech could be retrofitted there is no reason why the physical structure couldn't last hundreds of years. Alot of the things that plague current aircraft and navel ships and wear out the hull/airframe are not a factor in space. When a ship is retired you just put it in a parking orbit somewhere. Need a ship for some specialty work? Just look over the inventory and pick the hull best suited for the job, do what upgrades are needed, slap a new warp core in it and boom! you have a ship ready to go. Much cheaper and faster than a purpose-built ship and you don't have to pull a ship out of service to be reconfigured to suit the new job.
By serious firepower, i bet tricobalt torpedoes are standard aboard the J, and the J might've had Antiproton beams.
WHEN THE HILTON IN LAS VEGAS HAD THE EXPO 10 YEARS AGO,
I WAS THERE THE DAY IT OPENED.
MET THE CAST MEMBERS FROM ALL THE SHOWS.
I realy hate it when a good TV show for me like this is stoped because some US People with the Rating Equipment don't like it. There has to be a better way of Rating such thinks Worldwide.
The problem was the first two seasons. People hated the simple plot lines and the fact that it was episode length storylines that didn't connect to each other or have an effect on the rest of the show.
The third and fourth seasons were beginning to get viewers again but the producers and studio had already decided to cancel the show by then. Which I hate since I would have loved to see a fifth season that followed the Romulan war.
there was nothing wrong with the first 2 seasons. People just love to bash Enterprise sadly. Enterprise is personally my fave show from the syndicate.
mrtheoden I didn't like the first two seasons for three reasons.
1. It didn't have much in the lines of consequences. Each episode was standalone pretty much other than the future war arc.This wouldn't be a problem if most of the episodes I didn't like.
2. The future war arc. It was not well thought out and made no real sense most of the times they brought it up.They didn't even give future guy a good name. They should have actually known what they were going to do with that arc before putting there.
3. They had already done all this before. The first two seasons seemed like an attempt to redo the original series. But I don't want to see a redo I want to see a new series with its own stuff.
Granted, this is all opinion and you are allowed to have your own feelings on this. Interesting to see someone who differs in my opinion. And Personally I love the second two seasons for the most part. I would have loved to see a fifth and sixth season go over the Rommulan war and final formation of the Federation.
oh well I guess I'm more forgiving. Just consider that nearly all of the other Star Trek franchises lacked season arcs and had episode to episode stories. The future war arc had to be mentioned, but also deliberately vague for obvious reasons. There was nothing wrong with the name "Daniels" either.
mrtheoden I'll admit that the time war had some interesting concepts to it. I guess I would have liked for it to have it more thought out. It kinda felt like stuff just didn't click in it. Though I loved the first two episodes of the fourth season where they went to WW2 AMerica and that was a time war story. I think a major plus would have been if the time war actually had prevalence over most of the episodes. Like forcing them to stop a major attack by the future guy or stop an attempt to fracture relations between humans and vulcans.
as for the story thing. Thats a personal preference for me. I like overarching stories over episode by episode things. Why I liked DS9 a lot.
Your Alf tangent hit me right in the childhood!
ALT-AIR. As in Forbidden Planet?
OpenMawProductions I think so. I never made that connection until I was skimming through Forbidden Planet in prep for the original Enterprise video I'm working on.
OpenMawProductions Isn't Altair an actual star?
TheSorrel It is, but i'd wager Gene would have been plugging in a Forbidden Planet reference given that it influenced TOS so heavily during conceptualization.
+OpenMawProductions Sounds like a windows command
IMO I think the Altiair/Enterprise mix looks best. The one with the seperate saucer and that sharp delta hull underneath.
Note: The Sci-fi channel wasn't a fledgeling cable channel at the time, it's been around since the early 90's..
+numberyellow Over the first several years, the Sci-Fi Channel was primarily the dumping spot for reruns. During the early 2000s, it was in the early days of trying to push original content. I consider that fledgling.
::shrug:: whatever pushes your saucer, was just pointing it out is all..
"whatever pushes your saucer" rofl
Consider AMC. For years and years, it showed old movies. Then one day it was showing Mad Men and Breaking Bad. When it started showing hour-long dramas, it was basically having a mid-life career change and could be considered fledgling. Starting all over again, reborn. etc.
As Junkball says, Sci-Fi was a whole different sort of channel in the 90s than what it became by the time of BSG and Caprica and all.
Great work! I got here after looking up info on Star Trek Discovery. Got extremely disappointed when I learned that it's another prequel. At least we got that hallway though, haha!
CBS basically had no choice but to make a prequel, as the current way the franchise is split between CBS and Paramount made almost everything Post-TNG as part of Paramount's movie license, as CBS only had control of television properties. so Post-Voyager was off the table. Even if they were to try, you still have the problem of how the 25th Century is already featured in Star Trek Online. Utilizing any of those designs (the uniforms, the ships, etc) would require royalties paid to Cryptic Studios and Perfect World Entertainment. Conversely, if they set it in that era and DON'T use any of those designs, then that basically invalidates STO's place in the timeline and breaks the license that they hold. So, that era is off the table.
Only other option then would be 26th Century,.. which means Time Travel, and the Enterprise-J.... and seriously, would you REALLY want to see that? Haven't we gotten enough of the Temporal Cold War?
I found it ridiculous the fact that in Enterprise showed in the Battle of Procyon V vessels such as the Prometheus-class, Nova-class and Dauntless-class vessels apparently participating in the battle, That would be like having Daedalus-class vessels (launched 2196ce) participating in the Dominion war. (Prometheus-class launched 2375, Battle of Procyon V 2554ce, 179 years difference; Dauntless-class launched 2196ce, Dominion war 2373-2375), 179 years difference). It was poor writing and laziness on the part of the CGI team.
Orion have to give ya that one.
Like how the miranda was still kicking around in tng, and the results refits/retrofits excelsior went through?
Slap a fresh coat of paint and install some new pipes and the house sells. Same concept. Install new systems, upgrade existing systems if applicable, fresh paint, time to boogie. Starfleet has a tendency to mothball old ships and bring them back later. If you need ships fast, mothball fleets are an exceptional method of getting them. Its how TNG had so few at wolf 359 to fight the borg, but ds9 had hundreds of ships to take back the station from the dominion.
If you watch close enough, they have constitution and miranda classes in the battle for ds9. Starfleet also had been preparing antiborg fleets which is why they had cancelled designs and a surprising number of newer ship classes there too. It took a long time to build and crew those ships, pulling the oldies out brings you new ships in as little as a month. Some new shields, a new core, maybe newer fusion generators and some new phaser banks, vs design phase, testing phase, shakedown, refit, shakedown, refit, shakedown, refit, full service. If youre not putting a warp core thats orders of magnitude too powerful for your diminutive vessel, that is. Defiant had to be redesigned and refit a few times to address the "shake"down cruise. A lot of work goes into classing a new ship. Ent-e took years to build. It still wasnt done when battle of sector 001 happened. Dauntless was built primarily to be a fast cruiser. Prometheus was specifically made with battle in mind. These ships were built to be brawlers, keeping them updated whenever the locals got squirrelly wouldnt be a bad idea. Klingons, Romulans, etc... theres always somebody tryin to ice skate uphill. Its very possible 300 year old ships could be called in for help, so 179 year old spaceframes is no problem.
The creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money.
That is all.
The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete.
In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres.
Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot in spite of the fact that the team had finished the work on at least that one single model.
It was all just "splatted together", more or less, and the CG guys simply used renderings of the "newest" ships they already had at hand at the time.
So all those speculations about Federation's using those incredibly old ships are completely futile and pointless.
Lmao! when i was reading who drew the Enterprise J illustration i thought it said “By a Drug Dealer” and not what it really said “by Doug Drexler” 😂
The Xindi were 5 races from the same home world (six if you count the one extinct one) not an alliance of species from different worlds! Personally I thought it was a great show. How about that Discovery class huh?
No. We don't speak of it. I think you meant Orville...
The Descovery was Crosfield class.
Robin Gilliver Thank "god", it still is atheist.
I feel like this UA-cam ep needed to throw in some T'Pol gimmicks to get more eyes on it :D. Well played sir... well... played.
At 3:08 you can see a Nova class ship. That is a 24th century science vessel, fighting in the 26th century. What?!!!!!!!
It was upgraded into a design which can be used in combat as the USS Rhode Island. It was commanded by Harry kim in a future timeline and fought off a Klingon Neg'var class ship so that Janeway could go back in time to deal with the Borg.
The creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money.
That is all.
The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete.
In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres.
Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot in spite of the fact that the team had finished the work on at least that one single model.
It was all just "splatted together", more or less.
So all those speculations about Federation's using those incredibly old ships were completely futile and pointless.
That was the best intro I've ever seen.
Wow, seeing those 3 ships in a 26th century battle would imply they've been around at least 120 years, if not quite a bit longer.
That's... That seems kinda desperate.
I mean, it's worse than seeing Miranda and Excelsior class ships in the DS9 fleet battles in terms of age...
The Procyon 5 battle is explained in STO to be a battle in which both sides used forces from their future and pasts as reinforcements or something, with one of the main objectives in the battle for the player in the dungeon version of the battle being to shut enemy time portals or some shit. It's really far out there and I struggled to understand the missions of that episode with the time travel bollocks as I did them, honestly.
Technogeist I never did that one in STO...
But I guess that would make sense... Sort of. For a storyline based around time travel.
I mean, the gameplay in STO rarely makes sense because... 'game' elements seem to overtake any kind of logic... But whatever.
(I mean, the amount of missions where by the end of it you've fought like 30-40 ships is rather absurd if you think it through. Not to mention the respawning and stuff...)
I honestly just looked up the new time travel episodes on youtube, the wikis, and even reddit and cannot find a good explanation of their story, and since I struggled to understand it myself, the only way I see to really figure it out is to play them yourself and pay a lot of attention, lol. It's very mind boggling. I think it makes the most sense if you've played or seen the first set of tutorial missions for the TOS federation character, followed by, I think, the agents of yesterday missions, and finished with the future proof episode. I THINK. I'm really not sure what order that shit is supposed to be in, it's very badly explained, with stuff like Chekov and other elements just coming out of nowhere.
The creators of the ENT show used those pre-existing models of starships in the battle of UFP with the Sphere Builders just to save time and money.
That is all.
The ships just quickly swooshed through the frame within a fraction of a second and were not supposed to represent anything concrete.
In-universe, the ships would have been about 200 years old and definitely could not fight spacecraft of a highly-advanced civilisation that can, among others, travel between dimensions and build a large amount of Dyson spheres.
Doug Drexler, the designer of the ENT-J, among many others, has stated that he and his team were forced to hastily put together the scene, and therefore the ENT-J itself did not eventually appear on screen in any outer shot in spite of the fact that the team had finished the work on at least that one single model.
It was all just "splatted together", more or less, and the CG guys simply used renderings of the "newest" ships they already had at hand at the time.
So all those speculations about Federation's using those incredibly old ships are completely futile and pointless.
Your interpretation of Star Trek is the best. You have Idyllic mode like Gene Roddenberry and you oppose the degrading Ironic interpretations. Thanks!🎉
Wait the Dauntless was never a real Federation ship! Ha, I knew it the whole timewar thing was just a giant lie.
Actually in Star Trek Online (which i believe is canon?) the federation have began production of the dauntless class as it had a unique hull design that was supposedly useful... So it is now a Starfleet Vessel
Rabbiddog333 STO is cannon yes, who would have thought that STO would someday become such an integral part of the cannon of the TV series =p
A lotta mental gymnastics required on our part to justify them reusing ship models like this.
I like how Daniels casually introduces it as the Enterprise....Enterprise J and pauses for effect, even though that designation should literally mean nothing to Archer at this point.
"... and the rest is history." And now JJs soulless abomination of Star Trek is history.
Ambassador all the way. It perfectly combines the retro look of the classic Constitution with the upgraded technology features of the Excelsior and later designs.
Wasn't the Dauntless a fake class?
I guess Janeway persuaded them to make a real one. They did still have the quantum slipstream technology, even if they couldn't get it to work at the time.
yes and now
Just gonna say, best intro ever
I thought the Dauntless was an alien ship used to trick the Voyager crew so they can be assimilated? Not to be a nit picking nerd or something.
I don't know, if it is cannon, I forgot, but I think the Federation later adapted the design.
+Linkatchu I watched the episode afterwards and the dauntless is an alien ship. however whether it became a ship later on, no idea. it's possible but unsure.
Gitimus01 star trek online on the ship's description said they decided to used the design.
It was just a reused ship model that they had no intention of people to immediately notice or care about. This would not be the first time Star Trek had used models that were never intended to be noticed, including virtually every hulk at Wolf 359
LOL dude your openings are just the best :)
The J is such a fugly ship...
Dude, look up the "Discovery"
Oh I have seen it too and it will not win any beauty contests either... Looks like the bastard child of a D7 and a excelsior class... Makes a girl both chuckle and gag xD
What the heck have they been thinking with everything but the recent movies? Sorry for the "dude" comment, that was presumptive.
Meh I don't care lol Yeah the JJ constitution looks ok but its a bit too big in STO though. The future federation ships all look terrible to me, too thin looking and just so unfed like.
At least the discovery looks like a ship and not a modern art abortion.
One of my friends compared the Discovery to a hubcap and now I can never unsee that, always gonna think of the ship like that unless they make some MAJOR changes. Never did play STO, is it worthwhile?
love the intro, great moves, proud of you
Thanks. Most people bail within 20 seconds of the beginning, according to the data.
I'm sorry but I haye the J design. Not a big fan of the Enterprise TV show, but the NX-01 was pretty cool.
I didn't mind the series, but, that design was not around at the time. The bulky, homely Daedalus-Class was.
The NX-Classes were built around the mid 22nd Century, while the last Daedalus-Class was retired in 2196, with ZERO mention of the Daedalus in ST:E...
I was so pissed that they didn't use that style of ship, the Enterprise was banned from my home until the series ended...
Sam Coatsworth I agree with you the enterprise series is not good and the j is just a lazy design
Jim Samples They had an episode called Daedalus.
At 9:35 the reused doors were the Habitat Ring turbolift doors of Deep Space 9 and were also the cargo doors for in DS9 episode "Statistical Probabilities". The red doors are shown quite a lot in season 6.
man you use some awful background music in these videos
Maarek Steele I like it:/
I love the way you use music in your videos.
Why does NX-01 looks better than NCC-1701?
Everything from Enterprise to JarJar Abrahms StarTreXXX is from the Prostitute Universe
Martin not this shit again!
Because the 1701 was designed in the 1960's, when our impression of sci-fi at the time was flying saucers, rocketships, and tin can robots. Hell, by the time The Original Series concluded, we still hadn't even landed on the Moon for the first time yet. Hell, when Star Trek's pilot episode began production, we hadn't even performed a spacewalk or orbital rendezvous yet.
Enterprise J looks awesome!
You can tell this design was rushed. Is there anything they did right with this show?? Enterprise isn't worthy of the name of Star Trek.
They did a lot "right". Just imagine yourself... with no knowledge of the ST-franchise... being born as a son of an inventor, whom you look up to... no experience whatsoever with alien liveforms (except for vulcans, who were... kinda strange back then, due to romulan influence, and a Denobulan doctor... granted, Archer made some mistakes (ans some of them could have been avoided), BUT: at his time, there was no Kirk, there was no Picard, there was no "Prime Directive". He made decisions of his own... he made desicions (however wrong they may have been), bevause he was "just human". Anf that's something that makes him special... Kirk had the "Prime Directive", along with about 100 years of Starfleet-experience, Picard was (as good, as he was as a Captain), just "too good"..., with 995 of the time playing it safe, and hiding behind Starfleet-regulations. But Archer had none of that. Granted, bringing a dog along wasn't the greatest idea, but at least he was human/relatable... he didn't need Kirk's combat-skills (or the ability to confuse a computer), or his high-ranking-comtacts (like Picards... well, except for Admiral Nechayev), or even the support of higher beings (either "Q", or the prophets/wormhole-aliens).
In short: Yeah, ENT didn't always do "right" (the temporal cold war is another story...", but it did a lot of things right. As for the Enterprise J ... Apart from the looks, we don't know anything about this ship. For all we know, it could just be a freighter. But I wouldn't tell it's design "rushed"...
They did a lot right
Still better than star trek Discovery
Ricardo Warner nahhh, there are lots of episodes that I adore. Season 4 is awesome, ENT is better than STD aaaand I even like the intro!!
*crickets*
Benjamin Schäfer-Schmidt someday I'll see all of enterprise but I found archer to be the least relatable out of all the captains which was one of many faults i had that kept me from watching it.
Your editing is amazing. Congratulations.
Funny thing about Nelix... I feel like he was maybe the most "Star Trek" of Star Trek characters on Voyager. He didn't know what he was getting into, he was way under qualified for the experiences, but he had an innocence and eagerness to help others that was in line with the Star Trek message. When everyone else was shitting their pants dying to get back to the alpha quadrant he was moving further away from his home, but the whole time he was happy and wide eyed.
I always envisioned the Enterprise J as something the size of an average continent. Each side of the saucer section could dock two ships each, roughly the size of Enterprise E. From the main bridge back to the nacells, there would be staggered bays housing advanced Runabouts, Defiant class ships, and almost one thousand stingers.... small overpowered combat ships. Very maneuverable, and very hard to target.
The saucer section is still detachable. The primary haul slows to 1/4 impulse while the docking clamps release. The saucer section stays ion place while thrusters push off the main haul.
As for the main haul, there are three options for propulsion; impulse, warp, and slipstream.
Impulse we all know. Warp is for when you have to cover a long distance in a short amount of time. Slipstream is for when you have to get there now! Like, right now! It's powered by the engine, appearing as a dome of light between the nacells on the main haul. It sucks up power quickly, so it's used in only the most extreme emergencies.
Battlestar Galactica had 3.5 million viewers for its premiere episode. They didn't stay that high. It's ratings were very comparable by the time this Enterprise episode aired. More so when you consider scifi was in 93% of US homes.
OH MY GOD..
THE BEST INTRO EVER SEEN..
Can't you tell more about the size of this vessel? Since I have read it's saucer section is more than 3km wide, and thus bigger than a Borg Cube.
Val Kilmer didn’t give up. He battled cancer multiple times.
Besides that, I loved the vid!
Loved this whole series! Subscribed!
You make great intros!! Has an eighties vibe with the music, like goonies or never ending story
This ship also appears in Star Trek online as a Universe Class ship. Originaly known as J Type and was intended to be called the Altair Class but thanks to the STO playerbase and ofc a choice between trekyards boys and Doug Drexler the name Universe class was decided for the ship.
You'd think they'd be able to come up with some other names for ships. But, no. We need at least 12 ships with this name!
I prefer the 1st Pass Drexler Concept version. Very cool looking - and I'm sure, quite powerful.
Do agree that the Altair kitbash do look better.
A poster, picture, of Enterprise 1701-J is seen on the wall of the Episode Azinti Prime battle scene with Archer and Daniels, in the 26th Century. Archer is seen looking at it while Daniels it talking. Season 3 Episode 18 or Episode 70 overall.
Love these videos! And the music too.
outfits
Daniel's: yeah terrible what the heck is that even?
Wesley: eeeh I mean it makes sense at least
Man skirt: um? What? I mean sure if you want, it does look really odd though being a 1 piece dress jumper thing
Riker: Training gear, sure. Kinda looks like Samurai armor
Picard: Typical French style bathing suit, no problem
Jake: Yeah all DS9 civilian clothes are weird
Neelix: It's weird, but I don't hate it