4K Gaming On Ryzen 7000 iGPU... For some reason
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2022
- Among other things, I tried some 4K gaming on a Ryzen 7000 iGPU... For some reason.
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I believe that 2 fps should be referred to as 120 frames per minute. It sounds much better.
Ho no! Now every dodgy seller will take notes: "Brand new, 120 fpm capable gaming pc"
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banger metric, let the battle commence at 60-120 frames per minute! 😂
Providing much needed balance to all the 4090 coverage.
If you can afford it's great but if you can't its a nightmare
Honestly he should do a 2200G or other Ryzen APU test...to truly get an idea of how the iGpu compares to the older Vega cored APU's.
@@brokeandtired I believe someone tested it already and it was a bit slower than Vega.
And pixel 7/7 pro coverage!
MUUUUCH NEEDED
Okay, considering this iGPU is performing as well as it is with just 2 GPU cores I am with you too, I can't wait to see what actual APUs can do. Dare I say 1080p60 with medium to high settings? If they manage that then that will stir up the entry level market for sure.
the Radeon 680m (mobile iGPU) is exactly that :)
Laughs in 90 dollars geforce rtx 1030
@@Incommensurabilities As someone with a 680M it's surprisingly powerful
@@Incommensurabilities Well it's a look at what to expect for sure but it's a mobile chip that will be limited by power and thermals. A desktop chip will have much more power available so hopefully will be significantly better.
@@machintrucGaming RTX 1030? didn't know nvidia made budget low-profile ray tracing capable cards.
This is honestly the perfect content to unwind after drooling over all the new graphics cards nobody can afford, thank you Dawid.
the size and power consumption of the 4000 cards dried my mouth out. really coudln't care about it's performance after seeing those two things. saving my money for a 3080.
Arc also came out recently....
@@Powerman293 arc does me no good , considering i'm on a ryzen 2700 cpu . it'll loose about 20fps since i don't have rebar , or amd's equivilant SAM. (which is only on 3000+ series ryzens). and i need a card that can do 4k. so it's 3080 for me , in 1-2 more pay checks depending on my living expenses.
@@Powerman293 I’ve been trying to buy one of those for a video. Excited to play around with some Intel GPU action.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff a video on it would be awesome . especially if you try and push the card.... Can I get a "Arc on 8k gaming" video?
Ah yes, 90 million degrees on a CPU. Perfect as a room heater
or even like, a solar system heater
EDIT: WHH DIDNT I SAY SPACE HEATER
The Fusion Problem is solved!!
When people can't even do physics right...
The Sun: I am the hottest thing in our solar system
Ryzen 5 7600X: Hold my beer
@@laszlozsurka8991 fr
On Gigabyte by default, the Integrated Graphics is set to Auto with 512MB ram. Go to the bios and change Integrated Graphics from Auto to Forces and then you will see another menu UMA mode and change it from Auto to UMA Specified and then you will see another option called UMA Frame Buffer Size and now you can set it from Auto to 4G, 8G, 16G VRAM. But in order to unlock 4, 8 and 16 you need to change another 2 options: Above 4G Decoding to Enable and Re-Size BAR to Auto/Enable. And then the 4, 8 and 16GB are unlocked!
Does this work the same with discrete graphics? I’m not able to find anything outside of resizable BAR for my Asrock B550. I think that it’s a Phantom 4 non pro.
VRAM allocation set on BIOS doesn't matter actually, as the iGPU (and any GPU for that matter) will take up to half of the system RAM as VRAM whenever needed, it's all automatic. Increasing the dedicated allocation only takes away RAM for the rest of your programs, system, cache, etc. and doesn't offer any performance improvements.
MSI Afterburner, RivaTuner, and a lot of other system monitors, don't show this dynamic VRAM allocation, that's why it always shows 500MB (the default dedicated allocation), but it's actually using much more.
oh before bashing like an idiot, that extra allocation doesn't help much instead of eating up ram for extra 1 fps.
will this actually do anything ? it should use what it needs.
I think this is pretty impressive for its specification! A dedicated APU variant would be brilliant.
Likely will be in laptops
@@crazybeatrice4555 there will be a G variant I'm sure.....like 5600G and 5700G
@@intriguingfacts5434 Comparing 7XXXG with 5XXXG gonna be good
I agree! APUs are so promising. 😃
@@crazybeatrice4555 There already is. The 6000 mobile chips have RDNA2 mobile (like the 6800U and 6900HS) have a 12 CU RDNA2 GPU - 680m. Even at 30-40w combined power it can handle Cyberpunk at around 30fps, 40fps with FSR. For integrated graphics that's pretty mental.
I wonder if it's only using 500 MB of ram for the iGPU because of a setting in the BIOS. I remember my laptop BIOS had a setting to change how much ram is allocated to the iGPU (from 256mb to 4gb)
Most likely. Those things are usually set to auto and auto doesn't take more than 512MB in my experience. You always have to manually up the ram amount
Meh, the iGPU usually uses as much ram as it needs to, and the manual memory allocation is only useful for those games that requires a minimum amount of vram to run
Constantino is right
Even if I set my vram allocation to the lowest it would still surpass that once the games load.
In short, it does not matter.
@@critiqalerror It's been years and Ryzen iGPUs still show their memory allocation rather than their actual memory usage in this kind of software, I wonder who is to blame.
iirc you should be able to set it to 2gb, but i understand the point that it doesnt actually matter
Man, I always have love for AMD and their graphics cores. Like the 200ge - especially now that it's hitting the second hand market - can really help youngsters game even if they weren't born in a wealthy country or to wealthy parents in poorer countries. And it seems the APUs are gonna get a big performance bump for the 7000 series. Nice.
you gotta love how well that dark rock cool handles the temps without melting being 90 million degrees over the temp of the sun that shows some awesome build materials to handle that kind of temps🤣🤣🤣
Get a 2400G.
@@rael_gc umm nope not replacing my 5950x with that obsolete pos chip when my 5950x is better faster stronger and more virile then the 2400g
@@raven4k998 I'm just answering the guy saying that 200ge will be a valuable pick for youngsters. On this case, 2400G is a better pick.
I think AMD only added the iGPU on these to match Intel's feature set--being able to run without a separate graphics card is really useful in the server sector. Still, surprised how well it handled these games regardless!
It is required for USB4 to be used for display and required display port meaning a GPU in mobo.
it's really useful in many situations, really.
They only added it for troubleshooting mostly.Not really intended for use as your only GPU.
@@BrooklynBalla No, they added it for OEMs. It doesn't matter if your CPU costs less and performs better if the OEM still has to put a $50 video card in there just to sell it for office use, and waiting for AMD to maybe make some APUs with them in there wasn't really worth the wait.
an iGPU is very hand for anything, i don't know why we are fighting over it.
Imagine they just had a really really really thin Low profile cooler in that box 🤣🤣
Hardware Canucks go _nuts_ for low-profile coolers, you can bet they'd have a video on it, lol.
(it’s just a single piece of aluminum foil wrapped around the CPU)
I’m sure the iGPU would run even hotter. 😂
I newly discovered you and finally getting videos that aren’t 6million years old 😂
Haha!! Nice. Glad to see in the present.
the real highlight here is how Corsair monitor comes in a crate, truly makes me wanna get one for myself lol
That 650000% is kind of a bug which can be fixed by enabling "unified gpu" option in msi afterburner
They haven't fixed that bug since vega integrated graphics.
I’ve been looking forward to this!
I'm only here for the market advice. I was trying to figure out which APU to get, now I know! Thanks Dawid!
With Dawid's channel around, no wonder we're approaching thermal run off! I could see the ice caps actively melting as you ran that cpu.
It's far better than I expected when considering that it has only 128 shaders.
Those rdna2 cores pack a punch.
Also wanted to mention, I checked a few boards regarding the 4K60 limitation, this may be down to the board as a board such as MSI PRO X670-P WIFI lists 4K120 for the HDMI port. Whats weird is AMD's marketing slide for the 7000 series iGPU does only list 4K60 even though it also shows HDMI 2.1, so I have no idea if you can actually drive a 4K120 display with a 7600X iGPU...
you havent heard? hdmi 2.1 basically means nothing now. you should look into it
Dawid you are great I enjoy watching your uploads and always happy to see one on my UA-cam homepage
Can a company that makes actual test benches please sponsor Dawid and provide him with a couple?
was literally looking for this exact information yesterday thank you
Glad I could help. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Could you review the ryzen 7 7800x3d?
kind makes me hopeful for if they eventually bin down the dregs of zen 4 chips to a 700ge or something like that!
I wish I hadthe same high level sarcastic humour that Dawid has XD. Loved the video as always!!!
5:37 so THAT'S how they get the heat to start fusion reactions
Do you pride yourself on being the best hardware troll on youtube? I love it.
you crack me up dawid 🤣 great content
Finally, the review we've all been waiting for.
iGPU? Isn't that the terminology for team blue?
Yeah but people nowadays use both iGPU and APU interchangeably between AMD and Intel.
According to the AMD laptop roadmap, the successor to the 6000 series should be getting RDNA3 CUs, if AMD continues with using those chips for the desktop APUs and allows up to 12 CU again (like 6000 series with 680m) that could be a pretty exciting desktop APU!
i'm waiting
Yea, for 500$. lol
I just took the cooler off my AM4 CPU to replace it... actually, I THOUGHT I'd taken the cooler off, turned out the cooler suddenly had gold pins. I have no idea how I didn't bend the pins because I had to tilt the cooler 45 degrees to unclip the back clip. I'm so glad they moved to the pins on the socket design.
That was almost odd :D Thanks!!!
The best channel on YT: while 100 other channels doing review of the same RTX4090 this guy produces unique content
Hey the Athlon iGPU is running 65536% to keep up with the 99% utilization CPU
When I got into PC gaming I struggled to get cheap hardware to run gta 5 properly. It's just impressive to see how a little igpu can now outperformed a dedicated gpu from back then.
5:51, To be fair, I was expecting it to be slower.
After a while I forgot this was 4k. I'm genuinely impressed.
No he said 1080p
The part where he said the human eye can't supposedly see over 3fps got me laughing like mad 😂😂
I do hope that the G variants (you know, the ones that are supposed to have actually good integrated graphics) utilize the RINA2 cores. It’s clear these were put in here just for basic use, but having 8 RDNA2 (or 3) cores will be sick!
they might ut RDNA 3 in there, like 8 RDNA 3 cores, (allegedly equivalent to 16 rdna2 cores) or mayb even 12 CUs like the 680m in ryzen 6000 apus.
10 fps is pretty much my whole childhood gaming experience, iGPU performance is absolutely insane nowadays *chef's kiss*
i love this channel
I love the silliness that you bring to the tech tuber space - Keep it up Dawid!
Thanks!
Where can I but that T-shirt which says "Noob". Absolutely love it.
you don't even need slow motion effects for battlefield 5 explosions with that lol
Your conclusion alone was worth watching the whole video for.
thank you for the review.
You should’ve tried to allocate more vram to the igpu, because it was pegged at 480MB it might have done better with a little more but I’m not sure
I had the impression that "Reasonable" and "Dawid" doesn't mix, so lets see...
...wasn't disappointed.
I recently got the 7900x and it blew my mind how heavy it actually was.
can't wait to see 7600G in action
Thanks for showing me my next monitor 😃
would be interesting to see the performance after overclocking (if possible) and with faster ram, eg tuned 6400MTs vs 5600 vs jedec 4800, i would imagine you could get some big gains with faster ram
These tests are more fun than watching $1600 video cards do well.
It sounds like you set stuff in the BIOS correctly, but it sucks it would never use more than 512MB.
I wonder if "UMA Game Optimized" would run better than UMA Specified (which I assume you used to set to 16G by hand). Also wonder if the boards have the same use (typo?) of Forces instead of Forced.
Next step is for you to get your hands on one of the Ryzen 6000 laptops.
And how did you come to that conclusion, cause that's not at all what's happening. Not even close at all xD
Yeah, when they say HDMI 2.1, it means the feature set, rather than the bandwidth. You'd have to look up the info per device yourself.
Aw man, Dawid, it would have been great to also compare the iGPU to last-gen's reasonable selections like the 5600G or 5700G, as well as Intel's options
Its like half the preformance of the 5600g.
music starts playing Anna shows up with Vileda gloves and the stun gun
Good video!
the percentage in the working very hard bug is the 16 bit integer limit so now we know how many bits it uses for that
It really does show home impressive each "core" must be to pull this off. only 2 cores and it's a tolerable 1080p deal. imagine this but with say 8 cores. It would spank most of the pre-rtx graphics cards.
close to 1060 on integrated, pretty impressive
@@bradhaines3142 certainly making those losery 1030s feel bad.
The most impressive thing about Dawid's videos is his ability to not crash his car in GTA V
They removed the data of some 1st gen Ryzen CPUs to make space for Ryzen 5000 on the x570/B550 boards
Normal tech UA-camrs do 4k testing on a 4090, dawid does it one a cpu 😂😂
I just upgraded from a i7 4770 to a Ryzen 5 1600 and honestly I already see improvements.
I believe you can allocate more ram to the igpu thru the bios settings of the motherboard also couple it with 6400 MT/s ram to see how much performance you can get out of it
5:30 amazing like the sun 🌞😂
Judging by how rDNA2 iGPU perform in Ryzen 6600U runs, rDNA2 is pretty much very impressive, even when they have 2 CUs. Can't wait for 7000G series which probably going to be a great GPU-less setup.
that chip socket deflowering should be called cilf
Wow, that was fun.
The reason that the 200ge didn’t post with the x570, is that 500 series motherboards dropped support for the original zen architecture which is what the 200ge was based on.
Thats kinda gay actually
My x370 supports everything except A series cpus
@@stiffybeanie4148 who the hell would buy the best AM4 board for something that literally has 2 cores of Zen 1 though
@@shepardpolska Makes troubleshooting more difficult
@@stiffybeanie4148 I suppose thats true but it's a rare use case if you ask me
In my old PC, the iGPU saved my ass, because days before presenting my master thesis on my PC, the GPU just broke, but I had a CPU with iGPU so I could still work (playing games wasn't even an option at this time ;). Good to know that Ryzen have iGPU
I want to see that beast 2 CU iGPU overclocked!
I see Dawid is getting sent some serious tech these days... a bit ironic really 🤣
I wonder what the overcloacked version of this test would result..
"Jump start it like stealing the car".... Dawid.. does that mean, you've done this before?!
I'd love to see you try out the new 7000G or U series cpus, I'd love to see what you can do on them. I love how amd are now putting a mediocre igpu into all their new cpus to allow you to get an office up amd running without a gpu
Can always count on Dawid to do all the stupid and expensive stuff so I don’t have to suffer for my curiosity.
Thanks Dawid.
7:56 love seeing a fellow JWST appreciator
I was definitely subscribed before and I just realized that I was not subscribed anymore. I resubscribed right away.
The "some reason," of course, being "because I can."
For some reason. Always gets me
Wasn't expecting this results with the ryzen 7 7600x
would really like to see how the iGPU performs with better, faster memory. RDNA may scale a lot better than Vega and might not be as disappointing as the Intel igpu Video.
makes me excited for the actual rdna 3 apus, expecting big performance gains. Rumors say 1060 level performance
Easily 1060 performance
@@L4ftyOne how is this stuff even possible now… crazy
Scientists:- We cannot make sun on the earth
AMD:- Lol, kids these days!!
Ah 70s styled porno music for the "socketing" was gold...lol
an entire unsigned short integer for utilization, damn
Deliding the 7600x should lower cpu temps significantly with direct die cooling . Derbauer got around -20c on his 7000 cpu's compared stock with running with the ihs.
Why would I watch another review of a AUD$3000 4090 when I can watch this spectacular
I wonder if you could increase the VRAM on the iGPU? I did that on my 5600g increasing from 512mb to 2gb by just fiddling around the bios settings. Not familiar with Gigabyte bios but Asus has that in their bios
that sounds very weird, what did you do, did you share actual RAM to the igpu?
@@x2stefan2701 yes
It makes pretty much no difference. If the iGPU needs to allocate more system memory, it will do so automatically.
The setting is good for games that won't boot and shows a "not enough memory" error.
@@riven4121 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it makes zero difference in performance. It will take and partition whatever it needs.
cheems how much did the performance stats change ? did it make any difference
7:48 Keycaps? I believe that's the keyboard I have, and those keycaps look really nice
How well the igpu works makes you wonder why the dedicated gpu's run so poorly in comparison.
We went from seeing 200 FPS at 4K to 15 FPS in just 24 hours thanks to Dawid.
Haven't had a socket rip out since I've started twisting my cooler off the IHS
Nice Tarantula Nebula wallpaper
I have the Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI) version for my wallpaper
Yay! Pointless iGPU comparisons! Just what I’m just what I’m subscribed to this channel for! Keep it up! lol
0:11 closed captions: "This actually has an eye GPU in it"
Wait what?
i do appreciate having the bare minimum graphics needed to output to a screen. Much better than having to buy a cheap gpu just for diagnoses.
dawid, you got a 4090 hiding there that you have secretly installed into an appropriately underpowered system / taco? You can tell me, I wont tattle.
try to overclock the Igpu to 3000Mhz with the latest bios and try to use 6000/6400/66000 mhz memory with cl30 /32 /36