Why Do Asus ROG Pre-Builts Suck So Bad?
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2021
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I’m getting a pre built that has a 3060 👀
Take a Dremel with a small cutting wheel and make those fake vents functional.
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Looool. The ‘fake’ front airflow marketing just breaks me.
@@moonman1209 The case got better airflow than my own custom build.
@@skids6885 That’s impressive. Is it in just a metal shell?
@@Psyberify i was sorta joking on my sentence, since my case only has ventilation from the side towards the front io. In others words it doesn't breath. Just the interior exhaust fan at the back of the case is effective.
The case has a very nice exterior with a tempered glass side panel, and a brushed aluminum look front panel.
@@skids6885
my case makes this case look like an air tight coffin. i'm using a CoolerMaster HAF XB lanbox/test bench case. two 120x120 fans in front one in back and a big 200x200 fan on top. the main board lays down in this style of case so i coupled it with a Be quiet Shadow rock top down cooler.
@@DenverStarkey That case looks somewhat like a box server ngl, but still really cool, that case has alotta airflow ventilation. Makes me replace my case with something similar since my cpu temps always spikes high underload.
"Actual airflow is better than marketed airflow."
- Dawid 2021
Definitely in the top 100 things he’s ever said, someone make a list
@@trentonmeeuwsen739 I would love a list. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff we need a community forum where we can all upload our favorite bits and lines and upvote our favorites, someone got on this that knows what they are doing
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@@DawidDoesTechStuff can you do a follow up on the cpu fan mount and go indepth on if you can or can't take everything out and put it in a different case
One thing I'll never understand is why they go through the effort of faking vents, when they could just use less material and have actual vents...
Depending on the process to make usable vents, they may be actually wasting or matching the material used to do so, but I'm sure it is probably more due to manufacturing costs than material costs.
Planned obsolescence, I imagine
It's like people who buy fake hood vents and riotously stick them on their Toyotas and say they're muscle cars!
@@elephystryI don't see that, the hardware will never run hotter (if you do basic maintenance). That case is just poor design
More effort is required to machine the holes for flow. I'm not saying that is good justification. The problem lies with vendors wanting to sell products with round numbers (i.e. $500, $550, $575) so if the machining costs an extra $3, the vendor doesn't want to have an "weird" number (not a zero or 5) in their "round" price.
It's the dumbest sh1t in the world.
The particular prebuilt in the thumbnail is actually pretty good for the price if you spend a extra 50 bucks on more ram to alleviate that single channel problem. It's fairly upgradable too. For $500 or $550 (including the ram upgrade I mentioned) that's a good deal.
no
@@Zeracey this now has a 3080 with 11gen I7 for 900 its even cheaper and worth now that parts are not scarce. But say no
@@Zeracey NPC
The last time I saw Chicony's logo was on my 14 year old Chicony membrane keyboard that surprisingly still works well and has no letters peeled off of it.
Well, that makes me feel safer. Hopefully it's not like gigabyte.
@@Ivy-pe2wz never heard of it. maybe since I wasn't born in the 90's. Thanks for the info they do seem alright enough.
i have chickony's keyboard that is ps 2 and 11 Years old it wos used with athlon xp or sempron windows xp based maschine(fun fact it was having giant turbo "ninja" flower cooler fool Cooper temp under full load 35) its still working perfectly Fine and ITS MECHANIC KEYBOARD at its buy date it cost obout 20 $
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Their 80s early 90s keyboards had blue Alps and other highly sought after switches, then they got infected with the rubber virus.
guys he's addicted to buying prebuilds, he must be stopped!
Needs an intervention
Cancel that, the boy is doin' fine he's got my attention.
For those of us that don't have the knowledge to build our own I find his reviews of pre-builds educational.
@@frederickclause2694 obligatory “wow it’s so easy to build a computer just watch Linus tech tips”
Is there a hotline I can call?
Asus: "We like to keep our components snuggly and warm, completely sealed off from the outside world."
Hi Dawid I’m glad your channel keeps growing your contents always been original and funny and informative all at the same time
ASUS engineer: There's no air flow!
ASUS marketing: But there's Photoshop!
😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff lmao
lmao
I think it probably was someone doing the marketing looked at pictures of the case, assumed it was ventilation/intake for the case and highlighted it with out checking.
Edit: Assumed not assembled...
Corporate "thinking" at its best.
I think ASUS is doing something very technologically advanced with this case. *Air flow by quantum tunneling.*
Maybe it's the next big step in case design.
Ant-man style ;)
@@DawidDoesTechStuff i am glad i went with Coolermater case H500 its awesome and tons of airflow with front panel MESH..and 2x200mm fans.. got great temps even with 5900X and 3080 its just on another level even those ports on front with case its horrible just a few ports..
those temps are so bad.. i stay under 65c even under load in games with my 5900X using 360mm Aio and GPU is Gaming X TRIO so i stay around 70c even with 3080
Unless the tech is a result of alien negative energy tech the constraints in airflow is choking the life out of that poor gpu blower. The blower motor will probably fail before the gpu. The gpu will meet the same end soon after.
I remember having one of those console PCs, the Asus G20 and that thing ran hot all the time and because it was in a small form factor, had little to no upgradability. For $1k back in 2010, that was a lot for a gaming PC but it was absolutely trash. Within the year it shitted so I basically took out my frustration on the thing before tossing it into the recycler. Ironically enough, that was my spark to start building my own systems and such and I'm happy that it happened.
Was looking at one these. This was very helpful. Good hands on and honest review 👍
Clearly the single stick of RAM is actually a hi-tech heat management feature.
It really seems like it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff.
I cackled at this. 🤣🤣
Correct me if Im wrong, but is the Mobo an Asus Prime B550M-K?
I saw that MB tech specification on Asus USA homepage and said it has a VRM heatsink, while the picture on the homepage does not show any VRM heatsinks at all.
And also, IIRC the B550M-K fo not have ARGB headers, and does not support Aura Sync. Why does the brochure for G10DK said otherwise?
Did Asus made a mistake bout the heatsinks and Aura or I'm mistaken?
well, i really think it`s probably that SOME Ryzen are benefiting a lot from dual channel. For my pool old 1600AF the change between 1x8 and 2x8 is no more than 5%
It's like no prebuild manufacturer understands how cooling and airflow works. They all seem to be shooting for some ideal form of a completely sealed box.
It's weird especially considering that Asus knows how to make a decent case.
It's because people who buy prebuilts don't ever bother to open their computers and clean the dust. Additional airflow will only make this worse. And it's also less effort for Asus anyways.
Let's forget we that the 2021 version of the Legion 5 have a proper mesh front and top
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Prebuilts like these are marketed at young kids who couldn't care less about airflow, and don't care about specs either except the big main numbers (3070, 16gig ram, ryzen cpu, etc). They don't care that the whole rig is bottlenecked in 10 different places and probably losing 50% of its potential peak performance because of it. As long as they can get around 100fps in their main gaming resolution they'll be happy.
So why would Asus bother shipping the prebuilt with an actually competent cpu cooler, or make a case that's just gonna let more dust in and require more maintenance that said young kids won't ever do? Why make a clean design, when edgy is what sells to their target audience? Why even brand it with "ROG" when there is not a single ROG product inside? It's all because they want to cut away as much cost as humanly possible, because their target audience wouldn't be able to desire the increase in performance anyways. Why charge more for better solutions, when customer can be satisfied with less. It's pure and simple business.
Asus knows how to make the best GPU solutions on the market, yet they ship it with this barebones 3070 that is barely any better than stock. They don't even use their own power supply which they're so proud of. The only thing worthy of their name is probably the motherboard, because they actually build it from the ground up and thus can afford to offer a decent solution.
@@Real_MisterSir Your patronizing aside, most machines have bottlenecks of all sorts in them. By nature of tech its impossible for everything to 100% utilize everything else to its fullest. Like how not even modern ssds can saturate a pcie 3 bandwidth.
Glad to see your channel continues to grow. Dawid you deserve it. I have been subbed since you had like 10k subs and you seem like a really genuine geek. Just like most of us gamers. Congrats and I hope to see you at 1 million subs by the end of 2022.
It would be great to see if it were possible to “remove” the front facier part of the case (or even unscrew/pop it out and just place it slightly to the side) and see how the thermals change. Would this be a better case if it simply had actual holes in the front?
Hi Dawid! I just finished building my first pc and I want to say thanks. I got your channel recommended to me one day and that was what started my interest in pcs. Thanks!
What was ur budget for ur first pc
Congrats man
@@domdinhh9772 abt 1300 us.
What gpu did u get because they are so expense at the moment
Welcome 🍻
from the looks of it, this is basically a reskin of the office PCs they sell, with a GPU stuck in it.
It does feel a lot like that.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff so I am curious how much opening up those fake vents in the front with a Dremel will do to practical airflow in the system, like how good would it be if it came from the factory like that?
@@mattparker9726or keep the side panel off
@@Neptune695 well then I guess the cooler is to blame
Daummm sir u really solved the riddle. smart.
I have the exact same pc and I recently changed the exhaust fan in it and it is so satisfying to hear a quiet pc for once!
I bought an Asus ROG G20CB back in December 2014. The pc was fine for my needs (Premiere, Lightroom, and slight gaming). Thr GPU gave out this February though but since that pre built is all self proprietary, I can only use reference cards of certain size.
You should cut open the "vents" to see how much it helps the cooling
or just remove the front. its just clipped in place :-)
I really wanna see that video !
Use a dremel tool and cut some openings and zip tie a 120mm fan to the front wall inside the case and it would be a night and day difference. I would do it if I had this PC.
@@MrR2185 thats exactly what i did with mine few weeks ago,not as clean though, just drilled few holes in the front panel and zip tied the fan :D
temps went down about 15c on average across the board, can recommend
Yes...but for the people who buy this for $2k, it should have that already done from factory...its sad because it looks like you can fit at least two 120mm fans
Dawid in Best Buy browsing prebuilt PC section: "this PC looks like a disgusting piece of crap!"
Best buy employee: "Sir do you need help finding something?"
Dawid "No this is just what I was looking for!!"
Best buy employee: "But didn't you just say that it looks disgusting"
Dawid "Yes its perfect"
Best buy employee: "............"
Employee doesn’t know what is required for a prebuilt PC roast video LoL 😂
My goal is beyond your understanding
you do not understand where im going with thic pc...
"Light bondage action"
You kill me bro. You are one of a kind and thats what keeps me coming back. Thank you.
I bought same GL10CS with 1660ti, intel i5 9400f and 16gb (dual stick, at least) little over year ago for 840USD. Fair price, as I'm a casual user, but my question is - what would you recommend to upgrade in this setup? Case, CPU cooling?
Asus prebuilts is a type of prebuilt that stands for: *Aesthetics over performance.* they have a pretty case, but then you have all these non Asus rog parts inside!
You think the case looks good? idk man, i feel like their products are made to appeal to young kids who like gamer stuff. i hate it
@@samgoff5289 that’s the point. You have this sick case, but then you have beefy parts inside
Case is ugly too, though...
The entire design team for that case needs to be fired. And the person who signed off on it actually being sold.
you need to spend more money like to see him review the ga 35 sure the case is trash but easy swap lol
Dawid, always a pleasure watching your videos, they are informative with a blend of class and humour that no other tech reviewer has. Well done good sir!
You managed to get good sponsors, making me not to fast forward. Great job, also you videos are awsome. Keep up the good work.
The prebuilts have terrible airflow but i was able to snag a prebuilt with a TUF FHR 3080 and i7 11700kf inside for 2100$. Transfered everything into a meshify 2 case, installed a fuma 2 cooler, and now it's a cool and silent powerful rig
Did you keep the same mobo ?
@@antoinecarazzato2202 yeah, it's a strix b560 G matx board
Literally made it in less than a minute. God damn love this man, especially since the "Runs like a kid with polio" joke. Next time I'll make it in the first second.
😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff hi
It was “the cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softy” for me. Just about choked on my own breath, I laughed so hard.
Seriously though, thank you for buying all these systems. It's a lot of money and time, it's incredible how fast we're going through different systems too. Loving these videos.
I bought an ASUS ROG laptop 7 years ago and it was fantastic. Well, it wasn't really a laptop; it was a portable desktop replacement (17 inch screen., haha.) I still have fond memories of it.
Dawid, where do you get those awesome music traks from? BTW, love the vid.
"Get to your door undamaged"
UPS Man: Challenge accepted!
Every case I've ever ordered delivered to my house has come damaged, finally had it shipped to a Best Buy and it was fine
Will this even get a “better than dell” award
its CLEARLY better than Dell.
So basically sounds like if you drill some holes in the front panel (or just pull it off), replace the cooler, and put in a matched set of RAM vs a single stick you've got an actual decent prebuilt. Good to know!
I guess, and the fact that it's easley upgradeable makes it even better
men love holes
I was left disappointed that you didn't test the system with a decent air cooler and/or liquid cooler (why not both?) and show how much this would have helped (at least on the noise side of things). Otherwise, very interesting to watch.
JFHeroux : I had the same thoughts.
3:10 I like how my budget ASUS Tuf B450 board has USB-C but this thing doesn't lol
Motherboard is the Asus PRIME B550M-K , their bottom of the barrel B550 board...
@@LastSecBloomer I had Asus Prime B350M-A before. My 3700X performed pretty well even the VRM had no heatsink.
No joke, the mobo in these is just garbage.
We've gotta get a video of you swapping this into a standard case, upgrading the cpu cooler, and leaving that 2nd stick of ram in!
Interesting videos. I recently bought a G10DK (same case) with 5700G+3060, 2x 8GB SK 3200 ram, and an extra HDD by the PSU for 999 USD from Walmart.
It seems the 60 series GC runs a little bit cooler on BF V and I got about the same FPS reading as your test. However, recently it got some stutter when playing. I'm not sure if it's the CPU cooler, ram, PSU, or simply because I installed the game on the HDD other than SSD? I do have plan to upgrade the PSU (bought a seasonic focus 650W), CPU cooler (Noctua U9 maybe, looking for something shorter that could fit), RAM (bought pair of crucial ballistix 3200) and a bigger and better SSD to replace the installed SN530. Do you have any suggestion on my upgrade ideas? Or any other idea to make it better? Thanks.
I bought the exact same thing you bought. I did put it a corsair 4000d airflow case and the temps dropped about 15-20c on the gpu. That case that it came in was garbage. I saw it at Walmart for $999, and figured that the graphic card alone was worth that almost.
@@bhuffine2557 yea, that's what everyone said. So maybe eventually I'll get a new case. We bought another cheap (850 in today's market) Lenovo desktop for my wife from Costco. That desktop seems to have a much better case with 3 120mm fans, but worse graphic card (1660 super)
Hello Dawid, I think Rog have made a same prebuilt system out of the cool Strix case you used for your first video. I bought a i7-10700kf with 2070s on that cool Strix case(The one with more ventilation ) , it does comes with a really decent Strix mother board and a “Actual cooler ” that they show on the image. Oh yes, It also comes with 2*8gb 3200 ram too. So I think the problem of the Strix prebuilt is they have different things on the Amd & Intel based version(maybe because intel version cost 100$ more?). Any way, I really enjoyed your video of testing those prebuilt.
I know it seems small but a 3/16" panel gap multiplied by the perimeter of the case adds up pretty quickly. You would be surprised.
You should do a follow up where you cut slits in the front panel where “ASUS’ marketing intended them to be.” Honestly you could even do it as a #short.
Seeing all these cases in your videos without any sort of front ventilation makes me appreciate my ancient Antec Three Hundred (bought in 2012 for CA$57.48 after shipping) all the more. 'Tis a heavy beast, but I'll be keeping it until the front IO wears out and I have no choice but to get another case. :)
I think putting everything into a new case is probably the best thing. There you go - an episode on moving the contents to a new case and see what the performance is like with proper airflow and coolers in place.
whats a good case for it?
@@sockswastakentwice I need to know
@@brianbillings6518 same, i think im just getting a basic white case on amazon that has good reviews, im pretty sure all my parts and stuff will fit if not ill just return the case and get another
@@sockswastakentwice Probably anything that has airflow. Would be hysterical to see it in something like a Fractal Torrent or a Corsair 4000/5000D ;)
@@cluberti i got a corsair icue 4000x rgb, it worked out lool
2:36 They're just using the same 4th dimensional tesseract technology that Thermatake used on their Tower 100!
Hi @dawid I am planning to buy one of those but I am a bit confused about these graphic cards as some of my friends are suggesting that I go for RTX instead of GTX. My usage is to run some cyber security tools as it is my field and sometimes gaming and all.
Please suggest which strix should go for.
So is this a good buy regardless of its weaknesses or should one avoid it and consider another model/brand?
I don't know how actual airflow was, but they had the only prebuilt I ever actually wanted some years back. When you were gaming these vents would open on the side to increase airflow. It had a secret drive that didn't show up until you used an RFID bracelet to identify yourself and unlock it. It is like they poured all their creativity into that last big hurrah and then stopped trying.
That sounds so sick. Did you ever find out what prebuilt it was? I really won’t to see some videos on it
@@timemast3r ROG Tytan CG8890, it came out in like 2012, but is still just nuts to look at.
yeah i just looke dit up. the 13 year old in me wants it more than fresh oxygen
I’d love to see a video where you upgrade the case and cpu cooling and see how much it improves the system and whether it’s worth buying this OEM and upgrading it yourself
Honestly what I was planning on doing. Seems to be a pretty easy upgrade
Funny story. I actually bought one of these prebuilds that had an RTX 3080 TUF, i7 11700kf. I stuck it in a new case with a liquid cooler and (2) 3600 MHz 16 GB sticks of ram. The thing runs crazy nice. Best part about it was I only paid 2K for the prebuild
@@samyisafanoffred I just got the cooler master case I have a asus GeForce rtx 3060 ryzen 5 3600x I have the stock motherboard but it has no rgb headers or anything what did you connect your liquid cooler to I have the 2 fan headers but I’m going to get a spittler of amazon but I want a cpu liquid cooler but don’t know what one has no rgb header cause I don’t have one
@@samyisafanoffred so your telling me that it's worth getting the asus rog at 1,200 dollars and then upgrading it afterwards?? Or is it better to get a 1,500 dollar prebuilt pc with everything made to be best quality
@@MajesticSam the best move is to never, ever, buy a pre-built. Build your own
I actually have the other model you reviewed the last time you reviewed the ROG pre build. It’s not bad the 2070 super isn’t bad I get about 145 FPS on apex in 1440p on high settings. Warzone I get like 110-93 FPS
So I was planning to get this PC since it’s for sale at Walmart for $999 with an RTX 3060 and a Ryzen 7 5700G, and I was wondering if I could just move everything into a different case and maybe get a different cpu cooler. If so, what would be some recommendations for either? Thanks!
I had the model with a ryzen 5 3600x and I threw mine on a new asrock mobo, a Lian Li lancool 2 mesh performance, and threw another stick of ram in, as well as a coolermaster ml240lv2. The case allows great airflow, and the cooler is super beneficial for temps, no throttling and always reaching max boost clock. It was about $225 CAD for just the case and cooler
You should Dremel the front of the case to make that airflow vent usable hehe. How about an AIO? I think CPU cooling is probably one consistent issue with pre-builts. Of course single channel RAM is another as you have consistently shown. I dig this video 👍
"This cooler equivalent of a damp handshake" I fucking love your humor.
These are actually not bad computers. Just install a second 90mm fan in the bottom front for intake. The intake is at the bottom of the front panel. G10DK had dual channel ram as well with it's 3060. I have one stock with extra fan. And one recased with a ton of fans. You can't buy the parts for $1k which is what Walmart was selling the G10DK for.
Note the gap at the bottom front of this case...
I have this PC as well. With a few upgrades, it can be pretty good although the thermals are rather sketchy. I do have a spare 90mm fan, but does the motherboard have a third fan header?
@@Matrix_The_One thermals were more than acceptable with the clear side panel which as you know is vented all the way around, and additional front intake fan.
In fact I built a spare parts rig in this case and resold with no complaints. Still have one in the parts bin I might use for an emulator box.
I'd love to see a take where you take this prebuilt and do whatever you must, in order to optimize it to its full potential. I'm talking;
- Get proper ram
- Install a real cpu cooler
- modify the case for airflow
- install additional cooling fans in the case accordingly
Basically do everything you wish that the prebuild would have shipped with from the store, and then do a summary of the changes you've made, and perhaps the associated cost too, just to see how much has been cut out by the "Asus marketing budget" for this pc.
the probleme is for me IF you have to buy ANYTHING else after you bought the prebuilt. means that the prebuilt was trash, and you should have made a custom pc from the start.
@@wellaname221 Yea that's exactly the point; to highlight exactly how much the average prebuilts are skimping out on and how compromising their offers truly are, when compared to an actually decently put together rig (with same core hardware, just built with common sense).
@@Real_MisterSir yup i see your take. honestly i stopped watching this youtuber the moment i have seen one of his prebuilt Test where the pc couldn't even Run a game 1 hours straight without 7 crashs" his words" , and in his conclusion he described the pc as " OKEY " when he should advise people to Avoid it even if it was the last pc on earth. his reviews are Shady AT best.
@@wellaname221 Damn.. I haven't seen that one. I personally wouldn't even feel comfortable giving a rating at all to a product that fails at such core tasks as running a game. That is something a pc just needs to do without question or hickups.
I'd love to see a comparison between that case and a half-decent 50$ case with a stock Ryzen cooler.
It would have been so easy for Asus to make this thing amazing. Poke some vents in the front, add a basic non-rgb fan(or two!) to the front to pull in some air and dual channel RAM for the Ryzen CPU. This thing would be king of the pre-builts! So simple! ....but nope, aesthetics win over function, yet again.
Armoury Crate is mostly for laptops, as it's how you adjust the fan modes, RGB keyboard and disable the Windows and other keys.
Hey, not sure if you've mentioned this in another video, but what's the name of the overlay you use to get the FPS temps etc, when gaming? I've seen it in a few of these videos now
Chicony actually makes solid PSUs. You are correct, they mostly make brick style supplies, but do have a small selection of desktop units. I have never had an issue with any of them. I'd not call them high end, but more than adequate for most tasks.
It would be interesting to see the guts transplanted into a case with great air flow. Maybe with a better cpu cooler and see the difference. Lovely analogies as ever Dawid.
I did this. Water cooled CPU and 6 fans total (2 in the radiator) currently. Works great.
@@shabazz18 how do i transfer everything to another case?
@@bootylumps3457 just swap over the parts to any M-ATX or bigger case. Preferably an airflow model.
@@shabazz18 hey bro i did it. Transferred it to another case. Way better airflow has 5 fans instead of the small case with only 2. STRESSFUL THO.
@@shabazz18 my CPU stays kinda hot tho should i replace cpu fan? i just bought the whole computer less than a week ago then transferred cases yesterday.
Can confirm the Corsair 5000D Airflow is a great case! I used it for my new build :)
I bought an Asus Strix pre-built earlier this year, one of the top models with an RTX 3080, 11700KF and an actual ATX motherboard. I literally only kept the motherboard, CPU and GPU and bought everything else. One big big issue is the bios on the motherboard. Even though the board is a bog stock Asus Z490-F board, it has a proprietary bios that has not been updated since last year. As such features like resizable bar cannot be made to work (Even though it's listed in the bios). I'm probably going to have to swap out the board as well. And on a side note they put a bead of glue in the USB 3.0 port on the board, when I tried to remove the header, it stripped the USB 3.0 cable apart. I can't use the header in the new case without perhaps destroying the port entirely. Crazy things we do to get a decent GPU. Power supply was a great wall and the MSATA drive was a bottom of the line Intel. single stick of no name RAM.
Which is odd because ASUS makes amazing components..
Good laptops as well. Well, except their TUF branded ones which are awful but the rest are pretty good ;p
i love how most billionaire companies cant make a good prebuild but can make good components
I want to know who decided that case should even be sold, because that’s ridiculous.
Yeah they dont put them in their pre-builts 😭
I always wonder who’s in charge of the product and sale team? They know gamers are gonna be nit picky and will want the best thermals, dual channel ram, and a clean OS installation.
4:05 - The cooler equivalent of a Damp handshake? Hilarious!
I have experience with super heating electric enclosures to melt plastics and this setup would be perfect for 3d printing high melting temperature compasite materials also frying, baking, boiling, bbqing edible materials.
1:03 "more than enough cable straps for some light bondage action" 🤣
Wow, so the day finally came where Dawid reviewed the prebuilt that I own and I can’t believe ASUS actually went backwards! I bought mine last year at $1400 with the same Ryzen 7 3700X, but with an RTX 2070 Super, and it has two advantages over the one in this review, which are that mine came with dual channel RAM out of the box, and that mine came with a Great Wall 80 plus Gold PSU instead. I also don’t recall ever seeing my cpu temps go that high in a game. They learned nothing from last year and in fact went the wrong direction! This crappy prebuilt debacle will never end!
I've got the same computer except I've got GTX 1660 TI card
I've also got this prebuilt. Mine too came with dual channel memory. And a much better CPU cooler than the one seen in this video. Odd how there doesn't seem to be much consistency with these builds. Cheers 😊
Should I buy this pc?
@@Rxcdleyt Unless you dont know what you're doing or live in a country that has extra bad shortages, you're better off building your own system. The extra 200$ that you gotta pay for a gpu isnt too big of a deal compared to paying the same extra for a prebuilt and ending up with a prebuilt.
I bought this a couple months ago and it’s not to bad for what kind of gaming I wanted, and same mine did come with dual channel ram. I just want to upgrade it lightly and I’ll be happy
Ya know, with the thermal increase associated with the dual channel ram, I wonder if that single stick was a design choice to not cook your internals.
Would be contradictory to the awful thermals everywhere else
I have a question: what do you do with all the pre builts after the video?
Hope he returned it for false advertising
I have this prebuilt since September 2020, (I7 9700k, rtx 2060. but I realized that the cooler is exactly the same you show at 15:03 ! Temeperature almost never exceeded 80c and replace the ram with a 32gb double channelled.
Dawid actually makes you want to buy a Corsair case ! But not any prebuilt, after HP Bad Omen we now have Asus Oven 🤣
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hey, what issue did you have with armory crate ? i just build my first pc and i have that soft in there, looks pretty good to me. But since i'm no expert, i'm asking you ^^
Asus and MSI are hands down my favorite Motherboard manufacturers because of their easy to use BIOS Settings & Overclocking.
“Soft luscious packing foam” is my cover bands name
Dawid: Buys another ROG computer
Viewers:ah shit here we go again
Give it some front panel airflow and maybe another fan and it's do much better, wouldn't it? So many improvements that shouldn't cost too much extra on their part and you'd get a significantly better system.
what do you do with all the pc's after you review them ? do you just return them?
I think this is a cheap version of that gaming system. I had the older model (cl12cm) from 2018 with a 8700k and a 1080. It didn’t perform bad as it was also water cooled and it was a pretty solid starting build. I still use it and changed the graphics card to a 3070 Ti, and got myself a new case and cpu cooler. Overall was not a bad build even tho the motherboard has some issues (missing standard usb 3.1 header for standard front I/O (as it’s front I/O was proprietary), the back of the motherboard is amazing it has 8 USB ports (2x 2.0, 4x3.1, 2x3.0), full audio card, Ethernet. Once you get rid of the bloat ware u are good to go! (Bios not standard so that’s a big downside)
That's great! It sounds like it was a good starting point for you. Glad to hear it worked out for you. 👍
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I have one of these asus prebuilt ones, “ASUS - ROG Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i7-11700F - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 1TB HDD + 512GB SSD” It runs cool and perfectly fine. What desktop prebuilt from asus are you using in this video?
Personally, I think their ROG Zephyrus laptops are fantastic. Great build quality, and really good cooling. I just don't understand why they would cut corners with their desktops. Also, was ray tracing enabled? Because if not, performance is pretty disappointing since I get on average 125 fps @1080, and 100 fps @1440 on a 3800X and a GTX 1080. Although both GPU and CPU are liquid cooled, which may have a slight advantage.
My g14 from 2020 had such bad cooling issues it could literally kill an ant when running IDLE, 85 farenheit when idle
Please do a follow up video where you drilled lots of holes in the front to give it air flow and replace the CPU cooler with a nice be quiet! 250W TDP Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU Cooler or something good and then replace that crappy fan in the back to make the case silent. I would love to see a pre-built pc turned into a great pc for under $200!
Just found this channel and safe to say im already addicted to it.
You need to get GN Steve to look at this. This needs more roasting.
If you want it roasted, just skip the middle man and put a Gigabyte power supply in it.
Haha!!
@@MarkZickefoose lmao
@@MarkZickefoose the funny thing is this PSU probably can withstand higher loads than the Gigabyte's 850W unit lol
You didn't mention the single channel RAM at the end, so the best prebuilt PC has a single stick of RAM lol.
We need pretty big AMD V-cache to go without RAM.
I mean, I did mention it extensively throughout the video. Hopefully, if Asus watches the video they don't just watch the conclusion. 😅
I purchased an ASUS G512LW laptop about 6 months ago and it came with an RTX 2070 and an i7-10870H cpu. The RAM they stuck in it was 16GB of 3200mhz but it turned out to be dual stick 8GB Samsung sticks. Probably the highest quality they could go with it. The SSD they used for the 500GB storage was actually Western Digital. The GPU never gets hotter than 86c and the CPU stays around 70c but for a laptop, that's to be expected. I'm more than happy with the Laptop I bought, but I can't say the same for this pre-built. Their laptop quality seems to far surpass their desktops when it should be the other way around.
I maintain that first asus ROG strix prebuilt is a solid buy if you get some Noctua fans + a heat sink to fix the thermals. It served me flawlessly for years and I bought it during the GPU scalp era so a 5800x + 3070 for 1600ish was a steal at the time. Soft spot in my heart for it.
I think this setup is supposed to be nothing more than a parts donor for another properly configured PC
You should do a prebuilt tier list.
One question, what do you think is the worst prebuilt you've looked at? Like in terms of pure incompetence?
What DO YOU think the best pre built is?
This might be a remedial question, but how did you get the Power Supply out of that enclosure? I have a Rog with only a 300W PS and want to upgrade it.
I'm not too surprised that Asus just used one of their retail motherboards for the system. Which also explains why it so effortlessly runs with other RAM and does properly support XMP (Oh, and dual channel isn't just the same speed. It doubles the bandwith)
And the CPU temp of 56°C in the BIOS? No wonder with 1.44v by default. I can hit the same temps with my old overclocked Core 2 under load for which that voltage is totally normal.
Would have been interesting to see you put all those components in that older case and see what happens to the thermals. Perhaps change the cooler and dual ram as well. Bet that would do this system wonders. Moral of the story, if you’re building and have money, go ROG. If you’re buying a prebuilt stay well aware as they don’t use ROG components in the pre built anyway
I love the fact that this video is all about shiting on a rog prebuilt paid by corsair 😂
I was thinking about getting this pre built, but wanted to watch your video explaining it first. So how much better would the pc run if I changed out the memory sticks and the coolant?
He is kind of being dramatic in the video. Ive been using this system for months w no issues. It's only loud when I'm on overwatch. I don't really play the other titles he was playing. I also use ableton with vsts, no issues, crashes, or overheating, just loud on certain applications
@@djviewpoint is it a good pc? i got the i5 11400F and GTX 1650 version.
I got an Asus gaming PC back when the 970 was pretty new and it's still working great to this day I haven't had to do anything with it
In the meantime, NVidia recommends a 650W PSU for the 3070 which makes me wonder how that 500W one will handle the PC over time.
The pc? Just fine. However, a seperate dedicated arc reactor is needed for the GPU.
You can definitely use a 500W PSU with a 3070 unless you have a super high end cpu and 17 rgb fans in there I guess, picking a reputable brand is far more important than having extra headroom in the wattage.
Dhoelath as a matter of urgency any owner should swap out the power suply as soon as possible. Aside from safety I'd believe that under powering is a hot issue.
@@are3287 bro 500 wats is not enoth for a rtx 3070 that is a one way tiket to dead pc land
NVidia overshoots a little bit on the PSU recommendation because they can't predict whether the consumer will go for a super cheap no-name one or a 80+ platinum, so they might as well guarantee some headroom. However, 500W for a 3070 really is too low for comfort.
oh crap i got this for christmas 💀
The one with the air to phase through the front panel is hilarious hahahahahaha
Hey I recently purchased a cheap used variant of this prebuilt. I'm wondering what CPU cooling you'd recommend to replace the stock cooling.