Victorinox Hunter Pro (Red Alox)
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Released in 2019, the Hunter Pro Red Alox is Victorinox's answer to the two hand opening lock back Folding Hunter. As this version features a two hand opening instead of the more familiar one hand opening blade it is probably legal to carry in more locations.
I believe the liners are made of steel (on all Hunter Pros).
The rivets are usually nickel silver on the smaller Alox (nowadays), I guess that's the case here, too.
I do believe you are correct. I knew the back spring is steel but I do believe the liners under the alox scales are stainless steel. Their web site say the pins are brass but they doe appear to be nickel silver, as you pointed out! I'll need to post a correction!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Where did you find info about the pins on their website? I couldn't find anything there, at least not on the product page.
SAKWiki talks about brass pins, but I believe that's only meant for the non-Alox versions. (They also mention bushings there which we don't have on the Alox.)
@@miklospinter That is where I saw the comment of brass pins (sak-wiki). But they definitely look more like nickel silver.
I like both the red and the silver alox versions of the hunter pro, but I don't own either one......yet. I also think if they could take the silver model and make the vic logo on it colored red, that would look really neat. Thanks for the look at this one, Tobias!
You are the first reviewer to mention the difference between a lanyard and a fob. Well done.
Very informative video. Decided to buy this for a buddies birthday gift. Couldn't be more excited to get this in their hands. Thank you for the awesome content!
Nice purchase! And Pioneers definitely hit a sweet spot. I just wish there was a fully stainless steel one that could be chucked into the dishwasher.
I have the M model Silver one hand opening clip !I love it Hunter Pro I would love to get a Quick Draw leather shieth but some states like NY. No 4 inch knives this one is 4 inches I love this by my side daily with my Work Champ and s solo daily carry just in case I need them !!! Love your knife Chat Videos you are the best Man ! Thanks !!!
Forgot my Farmer X on my Victronox chain !
Thanks. It sounds like you're doing things right with your SAKS. Thanks also for the kind words. I appreciate your thoughts.
Another enjoyable video Tobias. Thank you.
Thanks for showing these to us. I’m a 91mm guy myself, so don’t collect Alox but love all SAK.
Nice, glad to see the comparison between it and the Buck 110, it is a lot bigger than I thought it would be
I think the Buck 110
Is probably the closest thing competing with it. At least that was the first knife to come to mind.
Gorgeous knife!! I have been looking at that one for a while too.
Pretty sweet collection, thanks for sharing
Sweet love that lineup great stuff there bud!!!!!!
Great video thank you! I'll be checking that one out ,I like the blade shape and lock back. Also thanks for the comparison to the Buck 110.
Huge fan of Victorinox, and will probably be adding this one to the collection at some point.
Thanks for a good look at a classic Victorinox. I have about 60 vics but no Hunter Pro...yet. Like you Tobias I may own a few wheelknives but 99% of my knives are traditionals.
Hello Tobias. Another great review. I have been eyeballing these Hunter Pros for some time . I don't care for the silver Alox, but I like the thumb hole. I wish they had made the red one with that feature, I would have already owned it! I love folding hunters! See ya next video.
Bought mine today in Köln Germany today as a souvenir, beautiful knife.
This is one sweet knife and it locks too. Most I have ever paid for a knife is $90 shipped for a Mauser Swiss Army by Victorinox. This appears worth the $100 asking price I've seen for it. She's a beauty, thanks for sharing Tobias
Great video. I like the sound of the pioneer. I just got my first sak in yearrrrs, a black huntsman. Aside from the mailman dropping it as he handed me the envelope I’m very happy with it
Beautiful knife. I wish more knife companies would offer the pocket clip that could be easily removed or reinstalled. Especially, if you could move it to multiple location on the knife. Might have to pick one of these up.
Good looking knife..Nice drop point blade
That is a big Victorinox. I think of JB everytime I see that. At one point was going to get one. Can't remember why I didn't. Do like it. Thanks for showing off all that red Alox.
Tobias, that is a nice Alox collection you have there.
My favorites knifes.. Victorinox Alox...
That is a fine looking knife. Red alox is nice and probably much easier to find when dropped in the wild. I know I misplace a black or silver alox almost weekly. They eventually pop up, but they tend to hide in background. No hiding for that red. If I could find a farmer, or soldier 7 style in red I'd start switching over to red. I'll have to settle for bright Lil paracord fobs to help for now.
Thanks for the looks and implemented dreams Tobias.
I really like my Hunter Pro! Its a very good solid lock back knife! Admittedly not the best for cold weather but still a very good knife!!
If they ever needed a case or pocket clip, this one is it.
Here we go I have to start dancin now!!!!!! Omg the music Tobias😀
Pete, you are hooked. It's not the music (ok a little bit) I think but rather the jingle, the jangle, the covers, the shininess and sharpness of the blades that really get you going. Then Tobias adds music and a few other shiny sharp objects (like rattling a sword to us) and indeed you find your Nirvana. LOL Am I right or am I alone here?
@@bdh3949 you"ve got that right hahaha
Always amazed at your collection and appreciate all of the information you provide. I’ve enjoyed my Swiss tools. I still have the first one I ever owned from 1976 and it is still in service although for some reason the main blade is getting closer to the same look as the awl. I guess I may have over sharpened it 😢
The thing with many knife blades is the they have a differential heat treatment so they hardness is really just along the cutting edge. So once you've sharpened beyond about that 1/16 or 1/8 in the steel is softer and edge retention goes out the window. I wonder if you could send it back to Victorinox to get the blade replaced. It sounds like it has served you well for many, many years!
I believe that, in Germany, you can have either one hand opening or a lock, but not both. But, I’m no expert! I’m not a fan of modern folders, but I do have a few, and one of my favourites is the 940, as it’s fully ambidextrous, which suits me perfectly!
Nice knife. I bought the silver version as soon as it became available awhile back.
I got a British Army MOD knife in the mail, hopefully arriving today.
I like the first ALOX Cub Scout knife.
Like the looks of that one a lot.
I agree that a knife that large should have a belt sheath. It does have a very nice shape to the blade. Cool addition to your alox collection.
Very pretty knife
The Hunter Pro is definitely not what you would think of in a SAK!
I believe I’ll pick one up probably the silver one hand opener
I really like that hunter pro. I may have to pick me up one.
The Alox scales really make for a good looking knife. That pocket clip is cool. But I’d be interested to see how it holds up over time. For me that seems to be the first thing to where out on some of my knives.
Always wanted a hunter pro but havent gotten around to it...still collecting 85mm 91mm and 111mm SAK multifunction knives
I ordered this and a Alox farmer , literally in crushing debt , I am will have to sarve myself to offset the loss
Recensione ben fatta!😊
Not what I would expect from Victorinox, but I like it!
Cool knive, aspecialy in winter time ;)
Big and beautiful
I like Alox scales, but the anodized/colored ones concern me. I would like to see how they wear under considerable use. The clip is quite unique. My only longer (111mm) Victorinox has the slide lock, and I find that pretty easy to use. I may have to check out one of these hunter pro models. Thanks for the review!
They will wear. The interesting thing is, even the silver colored one have been anodized. The newer anodized scale old wear better than the old one but I even like the looks a well worned red alox.
Really like the blade shape, should be quite the user!
I absolutely love the smooth, I had a smooth Bantam till someone not so honest.... That was the only Alox I've ever had. I'd like a minichamp even if it's an old one. I'd like a Vagabond more than that I think, I don't care if they are Alox, I'd be happy just to have some SAKs/Vics again, I only have 2 or 3 all old and well used but one of them, one more needs scales made or bought, I've seen some really amusing 3D printed ones that strike my interest greatly & possibly even more than animal, which is difficult to do on a traditional/slipjoint, locking or not.
That Cadet looks real neat, but IMO shame about the file and lack of a more useful item there.
I have always looked at the large Vic like that with the opening hole, Some of those get pricey really fast. Maybe someday. w0w what a great idea on that p-clip! Maybe they will do a few colors eventually.
Sitting here thinking if that was a Spyderco it would be more than twice the cost. (())Then you start showing some..lol your 111mm w/ the hole is super cool too, looks really useful to me.
Heck yes!! I love a lot of Ganzos,,,Your Ganzo 729 is freaking cool, I wish I could acquire all the "circular/round" hole Ganzo knives. If by chance you ever wanna get rid of it please let me know, I'd really like to try and get it if possible. Sell/trade/etc.?
FYI; I love copies, clones, counterfeits of all types and levels. I collect as many as I can.
I don't have a Dragonfly (so many makes it hard to choose when buying for yet but I definitely have it on my list, probably more than one if I have the opportunity. I have a few Spyder Bryd models and like them, There are a couple more I wouldn't mind. They do show me I prefer a circular round perfect holy and not "shapes" if having a choice.
I really like how Victorinox decided on how to attach the pocket clip. No tiny little T6 screws to strip out (small fine thread screws into aluminum=stripped & threads pulling out, sort of like how the head bolts are on GM Northstar engines). The sabre grind looks pretty low, is it pretty thick behind the edge?
You're right about those little screws. I've already removed and replaced that clip about a dozen times with no issues. With most of the screw on clips, I'm lucky if I can take it off and put back on twice without one of the screws giving me an issue. And there is no worry here about over tightening.
I'm a big fan of Swiss Army knives. I would remove the pocket clip too. Glad that they made it easily removable.
Hey, don't you have any quality off brand SWK's like ISC or the like?
440C or 1.4110 krupp/marine steel?
That's a massive difference tbh.
That's like saying, it's either s30v or 420j2 steel.
440C (German 440C tho) is pretty much 1095 in quality but with rust resistance.
1.4110 is a marine/surgical steel generally.
Very soft, very low edge retention.
(Oh and if I remember correctly, if it's in 1.4110 then it would mean it's the same steel as all the other Victorinox pocket knives.
I'd actually wanna get the hunter if it's in 440C tho and I'd also understand it's much higher price point.)
440C can remain tough till about 60-61HRC
1.4110 is limited to 55-56HRC
1.4110 is more like 420HC that 420J2. The latest I'm reading is X38CrMo14, which is 1.4419. But yeah, there is a difference between 420HC and 440C.
Actual review of said knaf starts at 03:39
Yep, I do tend to ramble.
Tobias, not sure if you have been told that Jim Frost, of Frost Cutlery, passed away Thursday 1/7.
Check my video posted this past Friday. It’s a tribute to the man.
Nice comparison of the Hunter Pro, especially like your comparison to the BUCK 110 rather than to modern folders. The pocket clip transition is a unique feature.
My local store says the steel is X38CrMo14, 55-56 HRC but they only have version with black plastic handle.
I can't understand why the company don't want to officially say what it is. Mystery steel is discouraging because it looks like a cheap no name.
Several companies don't say what steel is use as it makes it easier to change the steel over time. I believe Knifes illustrated also said the steel was 1.4419 X38Cr14Mov. They also went on to comment that Victorinox has a way to get the most out of the steel in the same way Buck manages to produce outstanding results with its 420HC and its proprietary heat treating.
Good video I try to learn a lot but it just doesn't stay in my head. From Glenn CATT Massachusetts.
Good looking knife,but I think a knife 🔪 f that size should come with a sheath,instead of the pocket clip.
Thanks for the review and have a good night.
Is the lanyard made of paracord, and can be opened up to be used in case of emergency ?
I would assume so. For me, that lanyard is more of a fob so you can more easily pull it out of a belt sheath or pocket.
I have this knife but I unable to found pouch/sheath for this knife if any one suggest any pouch brand etc for this knife it will help me....Thanks.
Looks like a good knife but I wish it could be opened one handed.
The majority of the knives in the Hunter Pro Series are one hand openers. I think they make a few models that aren't for distribution and use in areas where one hand opening is illegal.
For a Victorinox it"s huge! It looks really beautyfull and sturdy. I"m curious how the blade will hold out and how you like the bladesteel that they used. normally my Victorinox"s are razorsharp and hold a good edge for a fair time. It isn"t the cheapest but normally the quality is excellent. Congrats on your extending collection of red alox and have a nice day.
I'm usually quite happy with Victorinox blade steel. Primarily because it is easy to resharpen. I'm not going full blown survivalist with my Swiss Army Knives and as I've pointed out, chance are if I were ever put into such a situation, I'd probably die long before my Swiss Army Knife gave out on me.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias I hope you wait a few decades before even thinking about the dying part. For the quality my oldest Victorinox is about 40 years old and stil works for me! also i"m not feeling the need to go Rambo on my knives hahaha
@@jeroenvoss6231 , agreed. I’ve also had a SAK for almost 40 years and it is still a great knife. Yes the handles have nicks and dings but the blade are still tight and everything works great. You can break any knife if you try hard enough but if you use a SAK as intended it will give you a life time of service and the some.
Hi Tobias, not a fan of Victorinox but that is useful looking Hunter with adecent blade, illegal in UK mores the pity.
Just ordered mine but I think what should I do about blade play.
There is no pivot screw for adjustment.
Send it to Victorinox. They will fix it.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thanks but I am from india sir
Has anyone put on an aftermarket thunb stud?'
is it more stronger or sturdier than buck 110?
I would say, yes. It is also lighter. But both knives are built like a tank!
buck 110 or hunter pro which one you advised? i am from india ,here hunter pro is cheaper than buck 110 , almost 40 % less .
Either one will probably work for you. I find the buck incredibly heavy. There are plenty of other Buck knock off with similar or better steel at a lower cost, as well. As for the Pro-Hunter, it is priced higher but has several advantages in my opinion. The reversible/removably clip, the lanyard hole, and the light weight and the overall ergonimics of the handle. There are also lower priced versions of the the ProHunter by Victorinox - but none are as low as the Buck. In short, I'm biased toward Victorinox knives.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thank you very much.
in india custom duty on imports 104 % so buck need to be import here and cost around 12000 indian rupees, where are victorinox hunter pro available here at 8000 indian rupees . [ its not need to be import ]
@@sumitgaonkar7644 , grab the Pro-Hunter! It will do anything the Buck will do. I also thing it will age better.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias THANK YOU VERY MUCH , I AM GOING FOR VICTORINOX HUNTER PRO ALOX RED , I am grateful to you for your help
I see a knife with a Case Tribal Mid-lock with a Morakniv Scandi grind and the size and shape of a Buck 110. And about as thin as Case Back pocket model. Who is a CopyCat now? The pocket clip is a neat; but the lanyard looks suspiciously copied too. Shame on you Victorinox; it might be Swiss made but it sure isn’t Swiss designed. This Swiss made beauty is priced at $100 dollars before tax and shipping that seems a tad over your stated price level Mr. Tobias Gibson. I watched most all of your holiday slideshows and was surprised to see 20 Case knives give or take one or two in your slide display. Then to my bigger surprise was a dozen GEC looking knives too. I would like to know where you get your GEC and Case knives for under $50 dollars. That is my next stop and shop store for sure. You may not like paying more than $50 dollars for a knife; but you sure did a lot things you didn’t like doing collecting knives. It looks like in 2021; we will be seeing a few more reviews of knives with slightly higher price points. God Bless.
I definitely went over budget last year. If someone is selling you a GEC fro under $50 it is probably a counterfeit. Even the seconds are up there in price. I went overboard with GEC's last year, buying six of them! (I only have 8, one was given to me as a gift and I owned one from the previous year) I bought a half dozen or so Case knives, all around $35-$50 and that is normally the top of the price range for me. But that Sea Horse Whittler is definitely a budget buster, as well. Depending on Case pulls out the Vault, I might by a Case or two in 2021. On of the reasons I was able to afford some of the higher priced knives was because of that stupid Big R that is showing up on Rough Ryder Knives. I see the big R and look no further.
Prices are also jumping on Rough Ryders. What used to be $ 10- S15 is now $20-$25! My main goal next year, pick up a few low hanging "semi grail knives" and continue with my search for nice large toothpicks. I'll also splurge a little on Red Alox knives (but the big four have already been bought). and check out the 58mm Classic LE's for the year. I'm also going to continue to look for good budget knives (under say $30, US) from countries other than China; and yeah that means a lot of 420, 4116, 440A Steel! But here are quite a few modestly priced knives coming out of Europe that will get the job done. Not sure if you saw it but I did a video on five brands that are not made in China with budget friendly knives under $25... ua-cam.com/video/lEpN2vPXkcI/v-deo.html
Tobias, are you drinking?