Thanks for watching everyone! Just moving my question from the video down into the comments. What would you like to see from the Black Bay collection in the future? To me, some new Black Bay 58 colorways would get me completely on the bandwagon.
Teddy Baldassarre Hey man, I’m a big fan of your content! I know this is far from the subject, but I’ll be getting my first luxury watch in the next few months. If you had to choose between this Tudor, the Omega Speedmaster Professional, or a Rolex Date Just..... which would you choose for a first watch?
I think there are so many variables that need to be considered before I can give an honest recommendation. That said if you’re looking for an everyday watch I don’t think the DJ can be beat really plus the variety is amazing. Sure it’s everywhere but there is reasoning behind it, it’s because it is great. That said, if you tend to dress more casually than speedy and Tudor should be strongly considered
I have the blue version of the watch depicted. I adore this watch. Very legible and the accuracy is within even superlative standards. Will more than likely never sell it. In reference to Tudor bringing out the 58 in blue or red? I don’t think so as it would cannibalise sales of their 41mm range.
This watch is very special to me. This was my first luxury watch. I wore it for the birth of my baby girl. It matches my rose gold wedding band and it just so happens my mother’s name is Rose. I feel this watch and I were destined for each other...and someday destined to be my daughters.
Well...if anyone deserves to wear this watch in good health it's yourself. I think it's great to have a connection with a brand/watch, and you most certainly have.
I just got a BBB with the in house movement. I absolutely love it. I chose it over a Seamaster 300M. It seems that the 300M has become the favorite watch for Rolex haters and Omega fan boys. Now everyone has one. The Tudor is less common and it looks more classic and elegant imho. Best watch in the 2K-3.5K range. Thanks for the video.
I cannot see them going for a range of BB58's because they may interfere with Explorer 2, sub and OP ranges from Rolex. I would sell like hot cakes but it would have an impact on other Rolex watches. They need to be careful that they do not create a monster that could eat up Rolex.
I have a Black Bay 79220B and I love it. It have just been in production fore 6 month, and I think that will be the Watch that's increase the most in value
I was absolutely convinced my next watch would be a pelagos. Went in to see a friend that works at an AD and he said it would be worth me holding them together and I just felt a massive pull to the black bay. I absolutely love mine
As a Rolex GMT owner, my BB 79220N adds some fun that Rolex doesn't express. I went with the black bezel and the gilt dial with rose hour markers really adds warmth and character. Doesn't hurt that this particular model Tudor ran for 6 months production before their in house movement. Classic? Rare? Time will tell.
I've had the GMT for about two months now and absolutely love it. But would love even more if they came out with a 41mm BB 58. If they do that I will own a second Tudor. Likewise, I'm sure there are plenty of people who would live a 39mm BB GMT.
i love the titanium and ceramic bezel on the Pelagos and the color way on the black bay :D if Tudor can somehow merge em together then it would be one to keep in my collection for sure!
I have a 79220N (black bezel). From what I understand it was only in production from October 2015 to March 2016 making it pretty rare. I think it's my favorite watch
Have to admit I wasn't a big fan of Tudor previously. I thought it was overrated. Until I was lucky enough to handle a Black Bay from an AD and I fell in love. Definitely a watch I would love to own one day. Great vid 👍
Tudor definitely has become “hyped” for sure. That said, I think it’s warranted and unlike Rolex I think all the prices are fair and we don’t have to wait for years to get one haha
Just picked up a BB58 for myself, had my name on a waiting list for a couple of months and popped in store as I was passing by and they’d received one that day! Loving it so far.
Great video, Teddy. I have owned several Black Bays in the past and recently just rebought this exact model for this exact reason. I think it's the one that will be looked upon as the most important one, and I'm happy to own it again
You asked about other watches that could be modern-day classics... Really hard to say. Not that many brands have keystone models like this, outside of Rolex and Tudor it's difficult to say if any brand is worth "a classic" model designation, since so many unimpactful watches are made... I think the Longines Legend Diver has been around for long enough, and has been prominent enough, to fit the bill. And it, in some ways, preceded the "retro diver" wave by a good two years. Oris 65, the first black-dialled, 40mm version, will be remembered fondly for years, for sure (since it brought Oris a much much wider exposure and revived their image significantly). On the cheaper end, the Bulova Moonwatch (sorry, "lunar pilot") might stick around in peoples' memory, as one of the few occasions to remember Bulova as a brand, and to really step on Omega's toes on the whole "moonwatch" thing. Speaking of which... Omega speedy is, for sure, a classic / iconic watch. Not so sure about it being "modern" though.
Coming all the way back around to watch vids as Im in the market for a Tudor GMT Pepsi.. I scooped this exact watch in 2014 while deployed to Bahrain, I had just re-enlisted and had a pocket full of cash. At first I was looking for a new Rolex Sub No Date but once I saw this BB Heritage in Red with the vintage look and leather strap I fell in love.. its a true everyday watch from classy to utility and everything in between.. comments from the Rolex guys are the reason I turned them away.. same with Mercedes, Gucci and fake lips.. just because one has money doesn’t mean you should be douchy and for that Ill stick with Tudor 🌹 Thanks Teddy for the solid reviews, youre the reason be rolling a new BB GMT in the near future👏🏼
I have the Tudor 79220N (With ETA) and I was fortunate enough to get one 18 months ago with box and papers. Its amazing and one day I will also get a Blue Pelagos
That Black Bay 58 is a real attention getter. I agree and would like to see different variations. I recently purchased the Heritage Ranger from Tudor. I absolutely love it. I wear it every day, no matter the occasion. It was my first major watch purchase, and I feel it was a fantastic choice. Thanks for the videos, Teddy! Your channel is awesome!
Picking mine up in a few hours!! I had the Eta Black Bay Black, but over time I loved the red bezel and how it distinguishes itself from Rolex. Tudor has a history of the red bezels on some of it’s older Subs. Blood Bay all the way. And a shout-out to my first love, my Blue Pelagos.
I bought the BB years back as my everyday watch and haven’t regretted a day. It is the one watch that is automatically packed on trips and it has traveled on 5 continents.
Agree on the Pelagos. Have the blue one, love the color and fit. Find myself wearing it more often than my Subs. It’s a great dive watch. Very legible underwater and night diving.
This is at the top of my list! Saving my pennies. I’ve been looking at this exact model and it feels nice that you made a video about it and validate my view.
I own one and covet the watch as one of my most important watch in my collection. I own a Rolex GMT II from 1993 and love the Tudor so much more. It is a more substantial watch and feels better made than the vintage Rolex's out there.Anyway that's how I see it for me. Love your video Teddy
Careful Teddy! This great video is most convincing and reinforces my reason to choose a Tudor Heritage Black Bay with the 70hr power reserve in-house movement over a Rolex, free of the poseur factor and free of any perception it may be a fake.
A good perspective and whilst this is the first black bay we can also say that the thicker black bay with the in house mechanism is also ‘a first’. The first Black bay with an in house mechanism. The 58 satisfies slimmer hands and we can say that it could be a choice for some however in my personal opinion only, the BB post 2016 is a man’s watch especially the model with burgundy bezel adding a tone of vintage. Price surprisingly is higher compared to the newer 58
Agree--it saved the brand. Like how the Audi A4 saved that company. I like this one more than the current model with the in-house movement. I do hope the BB 58 will come out with a similar color.
Fantastic video, Teddy! Just beautifully shot, and I agree completely with your analysis of this model. Made me super glad that I have one! I definitely won’t be letting go of it.
I love my black bay blue bezel with the new in house movement, it’s an absolute beast. I agree it would be nice to see the BB58 in some different colour ways. I’d also love to see the Pelagos in a stainless steel model! That would be a beauty!
Artagain I agree with you on the scratching, I also prefer the colour of the Stainless steel especially how Tudor and Rolex do it! I think it’d be a winner
I was literally shopping for a black bay earlier today. Couldn’t pull the trigger though as they didn’t have the bronze in store. I really want to handle the new bronze. Good video mate.
The in-house 41mm is in my opinion the most beautiful dive watch made in the last 30 years under $6k. Possibly across the board. The first thing I think of is Sean Connery when I see that red triangle and gilt dial. A timeless classic and on my must have list after school.
I almost pulled the trigger on buying this exact watch and I decided to go with the Rolex explorer as my first luxury purchase. No regrets at all, however, it now tops my list for my next luxury purchase! I had the opportunity to borrow one for a couple of weeks… wearing it/experiencing it has reaffirmed That that will be the purchase and not a Rolex submariner.
I purchased the 79220n early on. It was a “catch 22” watch for me. I love the look and style but felt I could never wear it in fear of scuffing it up as I saw the value of it keep increasing. I wanted to watch I could wear so I sold it about a year ago after making a tidy profit. I used the money to get my yard relandscaped.
Modern classics... I'm mainly listing affordable since those are the brands I know decently well... Seiko SKX obviously... first (and last) of the 7S movement watches. For a while through the late 70s and 80s all their mechanicals used recycled tech from previous decades. The 7S was the first new (sort of) mechanical movement design for years, and has formed the basis for their whole base to mid-range catalog going forward. I say sort of because it was derived from an existing design (Daini 7000 series) but with improved jeweling and some parts becoming plastic for cost cutting. This led to a huge wave of new affordable models that flooded the market and helped introduce a whole new generation to mechanical watches. Gotta also mention the Timex Waterbury. I think this was their first attempt in recent history at marketing beyond rotating displays on top of jewelry counters. It's been a slow climb for them, but this has led to more recent work with Todd Snyder, and the new vintage-inspired models like the Marlins and the Q. The Waterbury kinda started all that. Casio is still making square G-Shocks. I think the DW5600E specifically has been in production as long as the SKX has. And of course the Bambino is one of those models that has become synonymous with its brand. There's been a lot of brand revival going on lately. However, I think it's less to do with great new models, and more to do with this kind of post-modern revival of interest in watches, particularly vintage watches, as a kind of reaction to Apple's attempt to replace the watch as an accessory. While some of that is good, I think brands need to be careful not to just recycle their history as a substitute for innovation. I think the Tudor's Black Bay walks that line pretty well, taking a classic design and adding some modern twists. Some others not so much.
Whether they'll really be collectable I don't know but I do agree that this watch and the BB58 will be milestones. Perhaps to some extent the BB GMT as well, given that it's a more traditional take on a Pepsi GMT. With Rolex having moved on to the putting GMTs on the Jubilee bracelets and with ceramic bezels, perhaps the BB GMT will be the last of that kind with real tool watch appeal.
Great video thanks. Can't argue with the significance of the Tudor BB as part of the contemporary Tudor line up, but the most important Tudor watch?...what about the North Flag. The North Flag was the first Tudor with an in house caliber and display case back to boot, I'd say that's a pretty big deal. As far as future Tudor models I'd rather see a Tudor Pelagos GMT than any more BBs. Thanks again.
The north flag is a cool watch and certainly has a few firsts (I did a full review of it as well). I still think the black bay just provides much more for Tudor and consumers. It appeals to their rich history in dive watches that saw military action while packaging it in a contemporary package that is both relatively attainable for the world of luxury watches while carving out a new unique brand identity that is recognizable. Not saying the north flag is not recognizable but I would say it’s more of an enthusiast pick and won’t impact the bottom line as much for the brand.
Yes I love your videos so much!!! I’m about to pick up the orient bambino 2nd gen vers. 2 that you recommended, I trust you and I’m Sure it will be great! Keep going I love it. Your great!
Thank you I wasn’t aware it was your first, I’m so excited I found this cheap time x at my school and I tried it on for like three days and fell in love with the idea of a watch so I turned it in to the school and now I’m getting a real watch that’s more music style, I’m scared to watch any other channel besides you😏
Thank you Teddy for another great vid. I bought the 79220R in 2012. And I still like it. This watch still gets a lot wrist time as one of my favorites. I'm looking forward to Basel World 2020 to see what new model of the BB will be released.
Thanks for sharing your story with this piece my friend. I am awaiting Basel 2020 with the same excitement. Probably to just be let down but we will see haha.
Anyone considering this, should also consider the 39mm Rolex Oyster Perpetual. For a couple thousand dollars more(and those that need to save, be a little patient), you won't regret it. Regardless of ETA or in-house , take your Tudor to an authorized service centre. BTW I have the in-house movement in Burgundy. If you're spending more than $3.5k on a piece, you definitely don't want an ETA
IMO the one that will be the most collectable is the black bezel. Has the rose, happy face and the thinner case W ETA but the shortest production run and most desirable color combination IMO. While I didn't buy mine as an investment I do think it's the most collectable of the ETA BB's. For a first or entry level luxury watch I don't thing you can go wrong with a used (best condition) BB or Speedmaster Professional. But I don't think the new in house BB's will be as collectable as the ETA BB's.
I soo want to like Tudor... but I’ve tried 2 on so far (BB58 and GMT) and I didn’t feel any emotions towards the watch. BB58 too small for me. Nothing beats a Rolex Sub in my opinion.
I know I'm a bit late with my comment, but I just got myself a BB58 on the leather strap. Gorgeous watch, and perhaps a future classic, who knows. I never got why people poopoo an ETA based watch like a Junghans but revere the Tudors. Anyway, my guess for another future classic is the GS Snowflake... Greetings from Belgium
The Harrods version will be the most investible modern day Tudor. Actually it already is, as it's the only one that is above list price.Not even the Pepsi GMT or 58 are fetching above retail price.
I’m all about the 79230R with the in-house movement. It will probably be my first higher tier watch but I want to wait for next Basel in case they do a BB58 with a burgundy bezel LOL.
I love your videos. Love the Tudor and Rolex brands. In the past l've owned 2 Rolex submariner dates and 2 Tudor snowflake submariners. However l must confess I've never been sold on the black bay. When l first saw it l actually thought it was a frankenwatch. The snowflake hands just don't go with the round indeces. Also the fine 'coin edge's type crown doesn't look as distinguished as the more deeply grooved Rolex older Tudor crowns. I think they should issue a model with square markers to match the snowflake hands.
Have a plan to do it! I like being able to have a few models handy to do it right. Going to try it with a couple brands and then make it a series. Have sampled with seiko and it was well received
One of the most beautiful Tudors ever released. The ETA version is a future classic, the in-house models including the 58 with the Kenissi movement, which is not serviced but rather swapped for a replacement movement won’t be nearly as collectible.
After they come out with new colorways for the 58 (which I'm assuming is inevitable in the bear future) Eventually I'd like to see just a few very conservative updates to the design. 1: Changing the text to two lines or return to the rounded text of the ETA versions to make it look a little a little less stark and a little morr romantic. 2: Refine the bracelet. Maybe give it a pelagos clasp function or something equally tasty, lose the faux rivets and taper the edges where they were down a bit. I don't necessarily DISlike the bracelet, but it feels like it could be a lot better. You could argue "What more do you want at that price?" But Omega offers very thoughtfully designed and executed bracelets for similarly priced models (so does Tudor for that matter, in the Pelagos) whereas the Black Bay's feel to me... just good enough.
2:09 - How about the Tudor Black Bay Harrods special edition 79230G? Less than 4000 ever made, and heard they are stopping production quite soon. Also, the Bucherer edition is pretty rare as well.
Surprised no one has said anything about the size. Anyone think it's a touch too big? I have this exact model and it seems to wear comfortably, but it is chunky with a thick bracelet, too. Thoughts? Because I'm on the fence if I should sell it or not? 6.5 inch wrist here.
I just noticed on this model the bracelet doesn't have those studs on the sides, I don't like the look of those superficial studs. I also think the standard BB has no need for the manufacturer movement, all it adds is extra power life
I've found my Tudor Black Bay 41 clasp seems to open when plastic comes in contact with it. I work with plastic and I've found my watch has popped open. When I have my arm in plastic wrap.
Thanks for watching everyone! Just moving my question from the video down into the comments. What would you like to see from the Black Bay collection in the future? To me, some new Black Bay 58 colorways would get me completely on the bandwagon.
Agree on the colorways, maybe a 58 GMT. A 39-40 mm Pelagos would be sick as well.
Agree 100% on everything. A new Tudor sports model will probably be my next purchase. Just holding out to see what Basel 2020 will bring
Teddy Baldassarre Hey man, I’m a big fan of your content! I know this is far from the subject, but I’ll be getting my first luxury watch in the next few months. If you had to choose between this Tudor, the Omega Speedmaster Professional, or a Rolex Date Just..... which would you choose for a first watch?
I think there are so many variables that need to be considered before I can give an honest recommendation. That said if you’re looking for an everyday watch I don’t think the DJ can be beat really plus the variety is amazing. Sure it’s everywhere but there is reasoning behind it, it’s because it is great. That said, if you tend to dress more casually than speedy and Tudor should be strongly considered
I have the blue version of the watch depicted. I adore this watch. Very legible and the accuracy is within even superlative standards. Will more than likely never sell it. In reference to Tudor bringing out the 58 in blue or red? I don’t think so as it would cannibalise sales of their 41mm range.
This watch is very special to me. This was my first luxury watch. I wore it for the birth of my baby girl. It matches my rose gold wedding band and it just so happens my mother’s name is Rose. I feel this watch and I were destined for each other...and someday destined to be my daughters.
That’s what it’s all about man! Thanks for sharing this awesome connection to this watch and for watching !
JeremySeanA this is an awesome fkn story dude!
@@TeddyBaldassarre of course! The photography, music and editing make your videos a great package. Keep up the great work, you're killing it!
@@Billeh556 Thanks!
Well...if anyone deserves to wear this watch in good health it's yourself. I think it's great to have a connection with a brand/watch, and you most certainly have.
This is absolutely gorgeous! They need to bring back the old school rose, so much better than the shield
Will never happen now they have in house movements
I just got a BBB with the in house movement. I absolutely love it. I chose it over a Seamaster 300M. It seems that the 300M has become the favorite watch for Rolex haters and Omega fan boys. Now everyone has one. The Tudor is less common and it looks more classic and elegant imho. Best watch in the 2K-3.5K range. Thanks for the video.
I hope in the next few years Tudor expands the colors of the BB58. I would love a red bezel BB58! Also they need to make a 39mm Pelagos
Agree 100%
i hope they make the bb58 in the blue
I cannot see them going for a range of BB58's because they may interfere with Explorer 2, sub and OP ranges from Rolex.
I would sell like hot cakes but it would have an impact on other Rolex watches. They need to be careful that they do not create a monster that could eat up Rolex.
Ehh theres already enough women's watches.
@@ibbz5 well done with that prediction.
I definitely prefer Tudor over Rolex, this one is beautiful but I prefer the Pelagos! Nice video, keep the good work my friend!
Same here! Black bay is still a fantastic watch and it certainly deserves the popularity it has
Too chunky. BB58 is the way to go.
Teddy, you're absolutely killing it. The commentary consistently gets better.
I have a Black Bay 79220B and I love it. It have just been in production fore 6 month, and I think that will be the Watch that's increase the most in value
I was absolutely convinced my next watch would be a pelagos. Went in to see a friend that works at an AD and he said it would be worth me holding them together and I just felt a massive pull to the black bay. I absolutely love mine
I literally bought this just yesterday.... Waiting for it to come in the mail!
Great video Teddy!
Congrats, and wear in great health.
It is Steanless steel or just steel ?
As a Rolex GMT owner, my BB 79220N adds some fun that Rolex doesn't express. I went with the black bezel and the gilt dial with rose hour markers really adds warmth and character. Doesn't hurt that this particular model Tudor ran for 6 months production before their in house movement. Classic? Rare? Time will tell.
I've had the GMT for about two months now and absolutely love it. But would love even more if they came out with a 41mm BB 58. If they do that I will own a second Tudor. Likewise, I'm sure there are plenty of people who would live a 39mm BB GMT.
My bank account is happy when I declared, this watch brand doesn't do a thing for me😁
Love/watch all your videos✔️🍻
The Tudor Black Bay 79220R is my main Watch. It looks stunning, keeps very accurate time and feels close as good as a submariner.
The red is just so beautiful. Add the "smiley face" dial and double Rose and it's a home run.
That watch that truly kickstarted the retro diver trend. Great video Teddy, there’s a good reason why you broke well over 100k subscribers.
Thanks my friend! And honestly you’re probably right!
i love the titanium and ceramic bezel on the Pelagos and the color way on the black bay :D if Tudor can somehow merge em together then it would be one to keep in my collection for sure!
I got the 79220n - the eta black rose, I smile back at the dial everyday, it’s a beautiful piece
I have a 79220N (black bezel). From what I understand it was only in production from October 2015 to March 2016 making it pretty rare. I think it's my favorite watch
I have a Black Bay Steel. Probably the most understated of the Black Bays, which is why I like it. I also like that it has a date display.
Have to admit I wasn't a big fan of Tudor previously. I thought it was overrated. Until I was lucky enough to handle a Black Bay from an AD and I fell in love. Definitely a watch I would love to own one day. Great vid 👍
Tudor definitely has become “hyped” for sure. That said, I think it’s warranted and unlike Rolex I think all the prices are fair and we don’t have to wait for years to get one haha
Chris Moore I agree. when you see a Tudor in the metal it makes many models over 5k seem overpriced.
I am never able to make my 79220r look this good ever
I’ll take that as a compliment 🙌🏻
Just picked up a BB58 for myself, had my name on a waiting list for a couple of months and popped in store as I was passing by and they’d received one that day! Loving it so far.
Great video, Teddy. I have owned several Black Bays in the past and recently just rebought this exact model for this exact reason. I think it's the one that will be looked upon as the most important one, and I'm happy to own it again
That’s awesome! No doubt a modern classic!
I have this watch but with the in-house movement. It's my favourite watch in my collection! Stunning watch! Thx Teddy...
I prefer my 79220B personally, but still a good video. Nice to see this watch showcased.
Great vid. I love my BB smiley! True classic
My favorite black bay. The Rose is special, and the curved text is so cool.
You asked about other watches that could be modern-day classics... Really hard to say. Not that many brands have keystone models like this, outside of Rolex and Tudor it's difficult to say if any brand is worth "a classic" model designation, since so many unimpactful watches are made...
I think the Longines Legend Diver has been around for long enough, and has been prominent enough, to fit the bill. And it, in some ways, preceded the "retro diver" wave by a good two years. Oris 65, the first black-dialled, 40mm version, will be remembered fondly for years, for sure (since it brought Oris a much much wider exposure and revived their image significantly).
On the cheaper end, the Bulova Moonwatch (sorry, "lunar pilot") might stick around in peoples' memory, as one of the few occasions to remember Bulova as a brand, and to really step on Omega's toes on the whole "moonwatch" thing. Speaking of which...
Omega speedy is, for sure, a classic / iconic watch. Not so sure about it being "modern" though.
Beautiful and special watch, especially on vintage dark brown leather strap with Tudor's buckle..
bought a second hand 79220r just yesterday, beautiful watch
Coming all the way back around to watch vids as Im in the market for a Tudor GMT Pepsi.. I scooped this exact watch in 2014 while deployed to Bahrain, I had just re-enlisted and had a pocket full of cash. At first I was looking for a new Rolex Sub No Date but once I saw this BB Heritage in Red with the vintage look and leather strap I fell in love.. its a true everyday watch from classy to utility and everything in between.. comments from the Rolex guys are the reason I turned them away.. same with Mercedes, Gucci and fake lips.. just because one has money doesn’t mean you should be douchy and for that Ill stick with Tudor 🌹 Thanks Teddy for the solid reviews, youre the reason be rolling a new BB GMT in the near future👏🏼
I have the Tudor 79220N (With ETA) and I was fortunate enough to get one 18 months ago with box and papers. Its amazing and one day I will also get a Blue Pelagos
That Black Bay 58 is a real attention getter. I agree and would like to see different variations.
I recently purchased the Heritage Ranger from Tudor. I absolutely love it. I wear it every day, no matter the occasion. It was my first major watch purchase, and I feel it was a fantastic choice.
Thanks for the videos, Teddy! Your channel is awesome!
Picking mine up in a few hours!! I had the Eta Black Bay Black, but over time I loved the red bezel and how it distinguishes itself from Rolex. Tudor has a history of the red bezels on some of it’s older Subs. Blood Bay all the way. And a shout-out to my first love, my Blue Pelagos.
I got the blue version 79220B myself. Absolutely love it
Great choice. Would love to see that color released in the 58
I bought the BB years back as my everyday watch and haven’t regretted a day. It is the one watch that is automatically packed on trips and it has traveled on 5 continents.
City of Gentlemen red or blue?
Ashton Young black one with eta movement. The supposed collectible one but it’s my everyday beater and travel watch.
Agree on the Pelagos. Have the blue one, love the color and fit. Find myself wearing it more often than my Subs. It’s a great dive watch. Very legible underwater and night diving.
This is at the top of my list! Saving my pennies. I’ve been looking at this exact model and it feels nice that you made a video about it and validate my view.
I own one and covet the watch as one of my most important watch in my collection. I own a Rolex GMT II from 1993 and love the Tudor so much more. It is a more substantial watch and feels better made than the vintage Rolex's out there.Anyway that's how I see it for me. Love your video Teddy
1000% agree. This blackbay has relaunched completly the brand!!
The speculators seem to have focused on the 79220N. But I would agree that the “R” is the historically more important model.
IF ONE CAN ONLY OWN JUST 1 TUDOR, THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONE ⚜
Careful Teddy! This great video is most convincing and reinforces my reason to choose a Tudor Heritage Black Bay with the 70hr power reserve in-house movement over a Rolex, free of the poseur factor and free of any perception it may be a fake.
I’m the proud owner of a 79220N. It’s my first piece and still my favorite
That burgundy looks amazing. Easily one of my favorite watches
A good perspective and whilst this is the first black bay we can also say that the thicker black bay with the in house mechanism is also ‘a first’. The first Black bay with an in house mechanism. The 58 satisfies slimmer hands and we can say that it could be a choice for some however in my personal opinion only, the BB post 2016 is a man’s watch especially the model with burgundy bezel adding a tone of vintage. Price surprisingly is higher compared to the newer 58
Love the colors on this watch! Thank you for another excellent review!
Agree--it saved the brand. Like how the Audi A4 saved that company. I like this one more than the current model with the in-house movement. I do hope the BB 58 will come out with a similar color.
Fantastic video, Teddy! Just beautifully shot, and I agree completely with your analysis of this model. Made me super glad that I have one! I definitely won’t be letting go of it.
100% Agree, I always thought the same. As always, time will tell but is definitely a marking point for Tudor.
I love my black bay blue bezel with the new in house movement, it’s an absolute beast. I agree it would be nice to see the BB58 in some different colour ways.
I’d also love to see the Pelagos in a stainless steel model! That would be a beauty!
Paul G here here on the SS Pelagos suggestion! Ti scratches way too easily.
Artagain I agree with you on the scratching, I also prefer the colour of the Stainless steel especially how Tudor and Rolex do it! I think it’d be a winner
I think the one with black bezel is more rare and more collectible.
I have 79220 red colour
Views on the bronze model? I believe it truly looks beautiful.
i wish they made they made the black bay eta again in the 39mm case. Just love that silver/black bezel and traditional bracelet.
I really like the Tudor BB, actually I’m having trouble deciding which model to get.
I’ve alway really liked the Tudor Pelagos, but think the LHD Pelagos will be the most sort after in the future.
I was literally shopping for a black bay earlier today. Couldn’t pull the trigger though as they didn’t have the bronze in store. I really want to handle the new bronze. Good video mate.
The catalog has expanded quickly in its short existence. Lots to choose from. Thanks for watching buddy!
13Tyres i have a 2019 bronze on nato dated September
The in-house 41mm is in my opinion the most beautiful dive watch made in the last 30 years under $6k. Possibly across the board. The first thing I think of is Sean Connery when I see that red triangle and gilt dial. A timeless classic and on my must have list after school.
I almost pulled the trigger on buying this exact watch and I decided to go with the Rolex explorer as my first luxury purchase. No regrets at all, however, it now tops my list for my next luxury purchase! I had the opportunity to borrow one for a couple of weeks… wearing it/experiencing it has reaffirmed That that will be the purchase and not a Rolex submariner.
I have the Black Bay 58 and it's fully sick! If you are thinking about buying one just do it!
I find it very strange that people are exclusionary. I love both Tudor and Rolex. And own one of each. Cheers
Derek Shearer me too, have both, but prefer Tudor in general, they feel a it more funky than Rolex.
This is the best looking and most accurate dive dress watch in this High End Range of watches.
Bought a BB 58 last week. It's beautiful
I own this and absolutely love it, even more that my Batman GMT Master II.
I purchased the 79220n early on. It was a “catch 22” watch for me. I love the look and style but felt I could never wear it in fear of scuffing it up as I saw the value of it keep increasing. I wanted to watch I could wear so I sold it about a year ago after making a tidy profit. I used the money to get my yard relandscaped.
I wear mine all the time, I love wearing it when I have to deploy for my job. It has some scratches but It gives it some life and history
Modern classics... I'm mainly listing affordable since those are the brands I know decently well...
Seiko SKX obviously... first (and last) of the 7S movement watches. For a while through the late 70s and 80s all their mechanicals used recycled tech from previous decades. The 7S was the first new (sort of) mechanical movement design for years, and has formed the basis for their whole base to mid-range catalog going forward. I say sort of because it was derived from an existing design (Daini 7000 series) but with improved jeweling and some parts becoming plastic for cost cutting. This led to a huge wave of new affordable models that flooded the market and helped introduce a whole new generation to mechanical watches.
Gotta also mention the Timex Waterbury. I think this was their first attempt in recent history at marketing beyond rotating displays on top of jewelry counters. It's been a slow climb for them, but this has led to more recent work with Todd Snyder, and the new vintage-inspired models like the Marlins and the Q. The Waterbury kinda started all that.
Casio is still making square G-Shocks. I think the DW5600E specifically has been in production as long as the SKX has.
And of course the Bambino is one of those models that has become synonymous with its brand.
There's been a lot of brand revival going on lately. However, I think it's less to do with great new models, and more to do with this kind of post-modern revival of interest in watches, particularly vintage watches, as a kind of reaction to Apple's attempt to replace the watch as an accessory. While some of that is good, I think brands need to be careful not to just recycle their history as a substitute for innovation. I think the Tudor's Black Bay walks that line pretty well, taking a classic design and adding some modern twists. Some others not so much.
Agree on your last point big time! Thanks for commenting and watching my friend!
Whether they'll really be collectable I don't know but I do agree that this watch and the BB58 will be milestones. Perhaps to some extent the BB GMT as well, given that it's a more traditional take on a Pepsi GMT. With Rolex having moved on to the putting GMTs on the Jubilee bracelets and with ceramic bezels, perhaps the BB GMT will be the last of that kind with real tool watch appeal.
You what would compliment this watch, Oris65 initial release Arabic numeral. Both side by side to each other just beautiful.
Great video thanks. Can't argue with the significance of the Tudor BB as part of the contemporary Tudor line up, but the most important Tudor watch?...what about the North Flag. The North Flag was the first Tudor with an in house caliber and display case back to boot, I'd say that's a pretty big deal. As far as future Tudor models I'd rather see a Tudor Pelagos GMT than any more BBs. Thanks again.
The north flag is a cool watch and certainly has a few firsts (I did a full review of it as well). I still think the black bay just provides much more for Tudor and consumers. It appeals to their rich history in dive watches that saw military action while packaging it in a contemporary package that is both relatively attainable for the world of luxury watches while carving out a new unique brand identity that is recognizable. Not saying the north flag is not recognizable but I would say it’s more of an enthusiast pick and won’t impact the bottom line as much for the brand.
Another great video! Keep ‘em coming!
Yes I love your videos so much!!! I’m about to pick up the orient bambino 2nd gen vers. 2 that you recommended, I trust you and I’m
Sure it will be great! Keep going I love it. Your great!
My first mechanical watch ever! You’ll love it!
Thank you I wasn’t aware it was your first, I’m so excited I found this cheap time x at my school and I tried it on for like three days and fell in love with the idea of a watch so I turned it in to the school and now I’m getting a real watch that’s more music style, I’m scared to watch any other channel besides you😏
Thank you Teddy for another great vid. I bought the 79220R in 2012. And I still like it. This watch still gets a lot wrist time as one of my favorites. I'm looking forward to Basel World 2020 to see what new model of the BB will be released.
Thanks for sharing your story with this piece my friend. I am awaiting Basel 2020 with the same excitement.
Probably to just be let down but we will see haha.
79220N are the rarest~~!!!
love this guy. top notch reviews
Anyone considering this, should also consider the 39mm Rolex Oyster Perpetual. For a couple thousand dollars more(and those that need to save, be a little patient), you won't regret it.
Regardless of ETA or in-house , take your Tudor to an authorized service centre.
BTW I have the in-house movement in Burgundy. If you're spending more than $3.5k on a piece, you definitely don't want an ETA
IMO the one that will be the most collectable is the black bezel. Has the rose, happy face and the thinner case W ETA but the shortest production run and most desirable color combination IMO. While I didn't buy mine as an investment I do think it's the most collectable of the ETA BB's. For a first or entry level luxury watch I don't thing you can go wrong with a used (best condition) BB or Speedmaster Professional. But I don't think the new in house BB's will be as collectable as the ETA BB's.
this watch looks damn good, i call it a candy red color, it looks super classy
I soo want to like Tudor... but I’ve tried 2 on so far (BB58 and GMT) and I didn’t feel any emotions towards the watch. BB58 too small for me. Nothing beats a Rolex Sub in my opinion.
Can’t fault your judgement for loving the submariner. If any watch is worthy of the classification of icon it’s the sub
great information thanks, always loved the rose logo over the shield logo on the dial but never knew it had an eta movement
i guess the bb58 will increase in value already because of the watch enthusiast
I know I'm a bit late with my comment, but I just got myself a BB58 on the leather strap. Gorgeous watch, and perhaps a future classic, who knows. I never got why people poopoo an ETA based watch like a Junghans but revere the Tudors. Anyway, my guess for another future classic is the GS Snowflake... Greetings from Belgium
Totally agree with the title.
Keep it up Teddy!! 👊
The Harrods version will be the most investible modern day Tudor. Actually it already is, as it's the only one that is above list price.Not even the Pepsi GMT or 58 are fetching above retail price.
I’m all about the 79230R with the in-house movement. It will probably be my first higher tier watch but I want to wait for next Basel in case they do a BB58 with a burgundy bezel LOL.
I love your videos. Love the Tudor and Rolex brands. In the past l've owned 2 Rolex submariner dates and 2 Tudor snowflake submariners. However l must confess I've never been sold on the black bay. When l first saw it l actually thought it was a frankenwatch. The snowflake hands just don't go with the round indeces. Also the fine 'coin edge's type crown doesn't look as distinguished as the more deeply grooved Rolex older Tudor crowns. I think they should issue a model with square markers to match the snowflake hands.
I've got a suggestion. Make videos about history of watch brands. Why not start with Longines?
Have a plan to do it! I like being able to have a few models handy to do it right. Going to try it with a couple brands and then make it a series. Have sampled with seiko and it was well received
One of the most beautiful Tudors ever released. The ETA version is a future classic, the in-house models including the 58 with the Kenissi movement, which is not serviced but rather swapped for a replacement movement won’t be nearly as collectible.
After they come out with new colorways for the 58 (which I'm assuming is inevitable in the bear future) Eventually I'd like to see just a few very conservative updates to the design. 1: Changing the text to two lines or return to the rounded text of the ETA versions to make it look a little a little less stark and a little morr romantic. 2: Refine the bracelet. Maybe give it a pelagos clasp function or something equally tasty, lose the faux rivets and taper the edges where they were down a bit. I don't necessarily DISlike the bracelet, but it feels like it could be a lot better. You could argue "What more do you want at that price?" But Omega offers very thoughtfully designed and executed bracelets for similarly priced models (so does Tudor for that matter, in the Pelagos) whereas the Black Bay's feel to me... just good enough.
2:09 - How about the Tudor Black Bay Harrods special edition 79230G? Less than 4000 ever made, and heard they are stopping production quite soon. Also, the Bucherer edition is pretty rare as well.
Great Vid Teddy... Thanks for sharing!
Surprised no one has said anything about the size. Anyone think it's a touch too big? I have this exact model and it seems to wear comfortably, but it is chunky with a thick bracelet, too. Thoughts? Because I'm on the fence if I should sell it or not? 6.5 inch wrist here.
BB58, BBPeps, BBC, BBB, BBG and BBC S&G - all making history...have I missed out any abbreviations 😂
Can you do a review on the Rolex Explorer ? 39mm The newest version!
I just noticed on this model the bracelet doesn't have those studs on the sides, I don't like the look of those superficial studs. I also think the standard BB has no need for the manufacturer movement, all it adds is extra power life
A beautiful and underated watch.Enjoyed your video.Stay safe.
Could you please review zodiac seawolf and their GMT models. Their quite unpopular on youtube but their colour schemes are just jaw dropping.
I've found my Tudor Black Bay 41 clasp seems to open when plastic comes in contact with it. I work with plastic and I've found my watch has popped open. When I have my arm in plastic wrap.
I wanted to compare the 58 to the Pelagos but the stores don’t have the 58 . You have to give a deposit and wait months.