Thank you! F60.81 is what your saying as opposed to high traits. Im more interested in the object relations. The narcissist who relate to others not as the person in front of them but of the introject in their head. It's quite strange , frequently projecting things they don't want to see in themselves on to others and judgmental of others and they have paranoid reactions to the person that they just projected their stuff on. Then many time projective identification (thomas ogden definition), is used where we get a taste of what the client is experiencing.
The inadequate parts of them are actually the projections of their parents. Which is why in the end they must destroy us. In the shared fantasy, we go from representing an idealised version of their parent they never had, to representing what they lies them the most. The parent that broke them to the point of invisibility.
There is great content here but it's soooo hard to watch. The camera seems like it's bobbing around at sea and she can't pronounce narcissism correctly!
what is the benefit to a narcissist of receiving treatment? They get to blame everyone else for their shortcomings in life and get to feel superior. I can't see why one would seek out treatment because they don't believe they are creating their own suffering, they believe that it's the people around them who are in the wrong.
You are so wrong about how narcissists are created. My daughter was born ADD. This is what caused her to feel inadequate not the mother who loved her, worked with her, mentored her, bolstered her fragile self. If I spent any more time with my daughter, I would have been sleeping with her. There is a limit what others and mothers can do. Narcissists are those who refuse to take initiative for creating the self. Narcissistic people are in some ways high functioning emotionally autistic. As a mother of a now narcissist, I discovered that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Children will be who they want to be and if they don't want to feel life's emotional discomforts, they take the easy solution be it drugs or narcissism. Narcissism is just a word for emotional anorexia. The fridge is always stocked but the kid refuses to eat. Many anorexic women come from normal loving families. The problem lies in how they "perceive" themselves.
Oh dear. The blame is strong. As an NPD sufferer who was raised by an undiagnosed narcissist mother, I recognise this style of narrative. Have you considered that you may also be a narcissist? It might be worth exploring, both for yourself and also your daughter.
A compassionate view of a topic that is typically treated superficially
Very good explanation, thank you
What's with the camera movement? Was this recorded aboard a ship?
A worthwhile listen, nonetheless.
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So glad you're back! Thanks for the upload.
Thank you! F60.81 is what your saying as opposed to high traits.
Im more interested in the object relations. The narcissist who relate to others not as the person in front of them but of the introject in their head. It's quite strange , frequently projecting things they don't want to see in themselves on to others and judgmental of others and they have paranoid reactions to the person that they just projected their stuff on. Then many time projective identification (thomas ogden definition), is used where we get a taste of what the client is experiencing.
The inadequate parts of them are actually the projections of their parents. Which is why in the end they must destroy us. In the shared fantasy, we go from representing an idealised version of their parent they never had, to representing what they lies them the most. The parent that broke them to the point of invisibility.
Brilliant explanation. Thank you.
You are welcome!
do you have a problem with psychoanalysis on the high seas?
Thanks for mentioning the schizoid core.
Insightful and very considerate. Thank you.
Brilliant depiction. Thank you.
That is an excellent video. Thank you for sharing it with me.
this is great but what makes you think narcissists can heal?
There is great content here but it's soooo hard to watch. The camera seems like it's bobbing around at sea and she can't pronounce narcissism correctly!
what is the benefit to a narcissist of receiving treatment? They get to blame everyone else for their shortcomings in life and get to feel superior. I can't see why one would seek out treatment because they don't believe they are creating their own suffering, they believe that it's the people around them who are in the wrong.
because narcissism does not work, it will eventually fail them
You are so wrong about how narcissists are created. My daughter was born ADD. This is what caused her to feel inadequate not the mother who loved her, worked with her, mentored her, bolstered her fragile self. If I spent any more time with my daughter, I would have been sleeping with her. There is a limit what others and mothers can do. Narcissists are those who refuse to take initiative for creating the self. Narcissistic people are in some ways high functioning emotionally autistic. As a mother of a now narcissist, I discovered that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Children will be who they want to be and if they don't want to feel life's emotional discomforts, they take the easy solution be it drugs or narcissism. Narcissism is just a word for emotional anorexia. The fridge is always stocked but the kid refuses to eat. Many anorexic women come from normal loving families. The problem lies in how they "perceive" themselves.
Thanks Dr. Fill
Stephanie Baziuk its also partly genetic!
You sound very bitter of the love you gave her, very demanding, and condescending as well.
You are describing treating your child like a person who needed tons of attention. My guess you have your child too much attention.
Oh dear. The blame is strong. As an NPD sufferer who was raised by an undiagnosed narcissist mother, I recognise this style of narrative. Have you considered that you may also be a narcissist? It might be worth exploring, both for yourself and also your daughter.