@@adidabax6809 if they do implement this directly from the RAW sensor data, that would mean that you get access to ARRI's color science - Which is an extremely natural and rich look, that is also one of easiest to work with if you needed to color grade. Skin tones and highlight roll-offs are really really good. It doesn't really mean anything to normies, but more for people who already shoot ARRI, and need a cheap secondary camera that they don't mind taking a beating. Or need shove into a microwave or something. lol. This way they have all their footage look similar under the same lighting conditions.
I feel like PDAF is a double-edged sword. I love my GH6. I think it's one of the best cameras ever made, especially for cinema work. If they are giving me the best sensor they can make, and they give me a regular AF system to go with it, then I think that is a better deal than a "mid-looking sensor" with PDAF. But in the end, Panasonic is a consumer electronics company. They will cater to what the consumer wants, and that's clearly PDAF. Hopefully they don't neglect the GH6 now. Great video!
@@henakos I think there's something about the PDAF that affects the way images look on the sensors. It's probably part of why Lumix held on to DFD for so long.
THANK YOU. FINALLY. My suspicions on the color science is confirmed. I sold my GH6 for a G9ii, and have never been as happy with the straight outta camera colors and overall image, as i used to be with the GH6. not that i can't fix it post, it's just not the same hahah
@@MatthewDangyou but why they still degrade image quality with new models? For me it's always they main selling points - organic, natural image, colors but it's getting worse with every new camera.
Thank you for touching on the color science. I noticed this a little with the G9ii that its a little sharper (in not 100% a good way) and more neutral. I still think the GH6 is king of color in that way specifically but overall the tradeoffs are probably worth it.
It can be but you don’t get the 32bit float. That function must be on the gh7 side. Not sure how hardware dependent it is or if it’s eventually possible to update it to the s5iix. My guess is we won’t see that in a S series camera until the S1Hii
It's so sad that the 2 things they "fixed" are things they could have pushed in a firmware/software update. Such a scummy move from Panasonic to abandon the GH6 already. I've been waiting since I got the GH6 for both of those issues to be fixed in an update, as well as the ability to turn off the awful circle in the level on screen. I just want the horizontal line, not the entire 360 circle. Guess I've gotta just live with it lol
Matthew I enjoy watching your channel, very much.. I also enjoy all the positive commentary you say about the different Lumix cams. Sooo hopefully this question isn't too far off base. I have been using my G9 for close to 4 years now... I still love it... With that being said I was thrilled when the G9II was released... I am seriously considering purchasing the G9II,,, if almost for anything the phase detect.... Here is my question,,,, Do you have any advice or opinion on purchasing the G9II International version? I know a lot of that centers around the warranty aspect of it all versus buying the more expensive U.S. version? Any advice or opinion would be greatly appreciated.
Hey thank you so much for the kind words! So if you are from the US, the reality of buying from international is you lose out of the pro service repairs that Lumix offers. So I personally never done it, however I would look on the used market, student discounts, or wait for Black Friday to get a good deal. Plus people might be trying to sell their G9ii for the GH7 too potentially as well
Is the GH7 sharper than the G9II ? Because if they are about the same, the issue is not the G9II or GH7 are sharper than the GH6, it's just the GH6 is unable to get accurate focus as soon as you press the recording button when using low frame rates. I have both the GH6 and G9II and the sharpness is the same when using AF-S.
I personally think it is sharper and cool look to both the GH7 and G9ii but I will take that correct in post or in camera and have really good autofocus any day!
Enjoy your stuff bc I'm kind of a newbie... I'm not clear on 'vlog' 'arri' 'prores'... and just mention bc it'd be cool to have videos on what these are all about.
It is true that, when you have a camera, of a company, and have invested in lenses, you consider yourself "part of the team." AFTER ALL !! It's time to smile again with the new GH7 (after the sad events, with the unbelievably bad s9) and say: well done Panasonic.
Why Panasonic doing this? With every new camera image is sharper, and dull. S1h and S5 also has a better, softer, and "cinematic" image and in the same time more details compared to S5II. Probably next S1H2 also get the same level of sharpness.
Lol... I am chuckaling Matthew,,,, cause I was out yesterday afternoon doing my photog thaang...Which actually as usual I love my capture of nature, which is probably 90% of my Pic. & Vid. hobby. At the same time I was going over your replies to me on a few of my questions I asked you,,,, to your speedy replies,,, again I thank you ... Anyyywayyy,,,, I have been reviewing some of the reviews online of the brand new GH7 including yours. I am actually thinking down the road ,,,, that I might bite the bullet and choose the GH7.. Even though I consider my Vid. Channel on YT " Bratman Productions " pretty rough in my production world,,,, I am always striving to get better at it...... and I am excited about some of the GH7 extras production wise,, this can bring to the table.. I also love micro 4/3's...
@@MatthewDangyou tanxxxxxx Matthew..... off the top of your head....Leica 200mm. primary lens,, which I have been eyeing for a couple of years lol... Do you think it will match up ok with the GH7? and this lens has been around for awhile,,, and big buc$$$... Wondering if it will be updated anytime soon.? your thoughts?
@@MatthewDangyou thank you Mathew,, I am thinking it might,,, since it was one of the few primary Leica/panasonic partnerships that Would work on the G9 . I have the 50-200 leica tele, which is a beautiful lens,, built like a tank,, and works sooo smooth.. but as we all know primary lenses,,, just have that special way about them. Thank you for the fast replies,, lol and I wont bug yaaa for awhile on questions.. but I will keep following your channel 🙂😎
Never experienced the streaking but can see how it affected other folks. It seems like the difference in IQ is similar to how the S5II was a bit of a downgrade from the original S5. Despite the clear upgrades, that part is a bit disappointing! Thanks for making that comparison.
In my opinion, the actual image quality didn't improve much after gh5 and gh5s. They were and still are cutting-edge cameras. Of course gh7 is better, but there is no difference like between gh1 and gh3 or gh3 and gh5
Hi Matthew... Personally what is your A Cam now? Still S5iiX or it's depend of the job? Did you notice moire? About sharpness in general if you use proress raw it is still as sharp or less ? and digital look can be softened in post imho... Still got GH5,GH5s still remembering your G9 org videos. About ARRI log...the strange thing is I usually convert every log from my multicam cams to ARRI log C with cinematch so one step less nowdays!!!
Okay so most of the time still rocking the S5iiX. Thinking about buying though the 10-25 f1.7 lens from Lumix for MFT because that thing might make me want to shoot on MFT more. I personally just like bigger rigs so😂😂 I try to avoid Moire so I rarely notice it, for PRR it is about the same sharpness IMO as 5.8k open gate. And for sure the digital look can be soften! I use opaline filters from element filters to soften my image. Haha loved the OG G9!! But ARRI bit sized cameras here we go!!!
Dose a CF EXPRESS CARD Have a Fester READ WRITE SPEED Then SSD If No I Wander if We Can Get a Raw Recording To a SSD With a Fermware Up Date To The S5iix
Update: The "Hidden Feature" Lumix just added ARRI LOG C3?!?! Full Video Will be coming soon going over all the details!
Feels like the S5iiX is getting this feature soon too.
As a normie, IDK the benefit of this or what it is... I'm looking forward to that and hope it is something the very dumb like me can understand.
@@adidabax6809 if they do implement this directly from the RAW sensor data, that would mean that you get access to ARRI's color science - Which is an extremely natural and rich look, that is also one of easiest to work with if you needed to color grade. Skin tones and highlight roll-offs are really really good.
It doesn't really mean anything to normies, but more for people who already shoot ARRI, and need a cheap secondary camera that they don't mind taking a beating. Or need shove into a microwave or something. lol. This way they have all their footage look similar under the same lighting conditions.
I hope update firmware for lumix s5iix arri log c3
I feel like PDAF is a double-edged sword. I love my GH6. I think it's one of the best cameras ever made, especially for cinema work. If they are giving me the best sensor they can make, and they give me a regular AF system to go with it, then I think that is a better deal than a "mid-looking sensor" with PDAF.
But in the end, Panasonic is a consumer electronics company. They will cater to what the consumer wants, and that's clearly PDAF. Hopefully they don't neglect the GH6 now. Great video!
My exact same thoughts 💯
I think that original lumix s5 has better sensor than s5ii and now gh6 has better sensor than gh7. 🤔
@@henakos I think there's something about the PDAF that affects the way images look on the sensors. It's probably part of why Lumix held on to DFD for so long.
@@daytad I think same. Original s5 has over half stop better Dynamic Range and far better ISO noise.
I like my s5ii and the af is great but you're right. The s5 og looks better
THANK YOU. FINALLY. My suspicions on the color science is confirmed. I sold my GH6 for a G9ii, and have never been as happy with the straight outta camera colors and overall image, as i used to be with the GH6.
not that i can't fix it post, it's just not the same hahah
Yeah the colors still look great! And couple easy changes to achieve the same look. But still looks good out of the camera right away👍🏻
The SOOC colors on the GH6 is one of the reasons I'll never sell it. Although I may buy the GH7 if my GAS flares up. =)
@@od628 argh you're making me regret selling my gh6..... hahahaha ebay....
@@nickalot The G9 ll is no slouch though! Enjoy! 👍
@@MatthewDangyou but why they still degrade image quality with new models? For me it's always they main selling points - organic, natural image, colors but it's getting worse with every new camera.
Thank you for touching on the color science. I noticed this a little with the G9ii that its a little sharper (in not 100% a good way) and more neutral. I still think the GH6 is king of color in that way specifically but overall the tradeoffs are probably worth it.
Youre the first person to mention the HDMI mirroring issue being fixed. Instant BUY for me for that one reason!
Dude facts! This camera is nuts! Plus ARRI Log?!?
@@MatthewDangyou PRORES RAW, BRAW, And ARRI LOGC all in one camera? Thats goofy
Best unboxing on UA-cam. 👏👏👏
This looks like a beast. We filmed with the gh6 all through Kyrgyzstan. I'm sure this thing will not disappoint 🙌
Oh 100%! This thing will be a beast!!! Bit Sized ARRI Camera????
Great overview Matthew! Love that you shut the haters up by recording on the S9! Thanks for sharing 😃
HAHAHAHA okay I had to make the entire video on the S9
@@MatthewDangyou because Panny told you...
Haha no they didn’t tell me I thought it would have been funny though😂👍🏻
any word on whether the DMW-XLR2 adapter can be used with the S5 II (X)?
It can be but you don’t get the 32bit float. That function must be on the gh7 side. Not sure how hardware dependent it is or if it’s eventually possible to update it to the s5iix. My guess is we won’t see that in a S series camera until the S1Hii
First camera in a while that makes me salivate with desire to use it.
It's so sad that the 2 things they "fixed" are things they could have pushed in a firmware/software update. Such a scummy move from Panasonic to abandon the GH6 already. I've been waiting since I got the GH6 for both of those issues to be fixed in an update, as well as the ability to turn off the awful circle in the level on screen. I just want the horizontal line, not the entire 360 circle. Guess I've gotta just live with it lol
we need that night time low light test!!! POR FAVOR!!
Matthew I enjoy watching your channel, very much.. I also enjoy all the positive commentary you say about the different Lumix cams.
Sooo hopefully this question isn't too far off base.
I have been using my G9 for close to 4 years now... I still love it... With that being said I was thrilled when the G9II was released... I am seriously considering purchasing the G9II,,, if almost for anything the phase detect....
Here is my question,,,, Do you have any advice or opinion on purchasing the G9II International version?
I know a lot of that centers around the warranty aspect of it all versus buying the more expensive U.S. version?
Any advice or opinion would be greatly appreciated.
Hey thank you so much for the kind words! So if you are from the US, the reality of buying from international is you lose out of the pro service repairs that Lumix offers. So I personally never done it, however I would look on the used market, student discounts, or wait for Black Friday to get a good deal. Plus people might be trying to sell their G9ii for the GH7 too potentially as well
@@MatthewDangyou I thank you very much Matthew for the speedy reply.... I will definitely take all of that into consideration. :)
Is the GH7 sharper than the G9II ? Because if they are about the same, the issue is not the G9II or GH7 are sharper than the GH6, it's just the GH6 is unable to get accurate focus as soon as you press the recording button when using low frame rates. I have both the GH6 and G9II and the sharpness is the same when using AF-S.
I personally think it is sharper and cool look to both the GH7 and G9ii but I will take that correct in post or in camera and have really good autofocus any day!
What do you think, Update in S5iiX (they will bring these autofocus settings?!)
Taking the G9II out of my B&H basket and putting in a GH7 now.
FACTS, wise wise choice!
Enjoy your stuff bc I'm kind of a newbie... I'm not clear on 'vlog' 'arri' 'prores'... and just mention bc it'd be cool to have videos on what these are all about.
It is true that, when you have a camera, of a company, and have invested in lenses, you consider yourself "part of the team." AFTER ALL !! It's time to smile again with the new GH7 (after the sad events, with the unbelievably bad s9) and say: well done Panasonic.
Dude wild time to be a lumix owner with the GH7!!
Matheus, thanks for the video, Will save it to watch later.
Why Panasonic doing this? With every new camera image is sharper, and dull. S1h and S5 also has a better, softer, and "cinematic" image and in the same time more details compared to S5II. Probably next S1H2 also get the same level of sharpness.
Lol... I am chuckaling Matthew,,,, cause I was out yesterday afternoon doing my photog thaang...Which actually as usual I love my capture of nature, which is probably 90% of my Pic. & Vid. hobby.
At the same time I was going over your replies to me on a few of my questions I asked you,,,, to your speedy replies,,, again I thank you ...
Anyyywayyy,,,, I have been reviewing some of the reviews online of the brand new GH7 including yours.
I am actually thinking down the road ,,,, that I might bite the bullet and choose the GH7..
Even though I consider my Vid. Channel on YT " Bratman Productions " pretty rough in my production world,,,, I am always striving to get better at it...... and I am excited about some of the GH7 extras production wise,, this can bring to the table..
I also love micro 4/3's...
Rad man! You will love the camera! Also doing my photo thaang😂😂😂😂 love it!
@@MatthewDangyou tanxxxxxx Matthew..... off the top of your head....Leica 200mm. primary lens,, which I have been eyeing for a couple of years lol... Do you think it will match up ok with the GH7? and this lens has been around for awhile,,, and big buc$$$... Wondering if it will be updated anytime soon.? your thoughts?
@@Bratman530 100% honest not sure, if it is an MFT lens it would work amazing on this camera for sure though! But no idea on if they would update it
@@MatthewDangyou thank you Mathew,, I am thinking it might,,, since it was one of the few primary Leica/panasonic partnerships that Would work on the G9 .
I have the 50-200 leica tele,
which is a beautiful lens,, built like a tank,, and works sooo smooth..
but as we all know primary lenses,,, just have that special way about them.
Thank you for the fast replies,, lol and I wont bug yaaa for awhile on questions..
but I will keep following your channel 🙂😎
@@Bratman530 No worries! Yeah always feel free to ask a questions whenever you want :)
This is just GH6 mk2. I hope GH6 gets some new features with next fw update. Or is Panasonic forgot Gh6 users.
We all better forget the GH6 turd with bad AF.
Well ARRI log is also coming to the GH6 via a paid upgrade sooo👀
@@GrenlandUnderVann wait til you find out no cinema cameras have AF
😂😂😂
@@chacharamaster09 they have a focus puller, measuring tape and mark ups. Also they go crazy with DOF.
Why have a video camera looking like a photo camera?
The difference in color science is a big let down imo. I could instantly tell the difference.
Yeah the color science is shocking how different it is for sure!
Same. For all the quirks of the GH6, I was always left stunned by how good the image looked. Got me re-thinking my preorder
@@apcreativemedia ARRI log is coming to the GH6 too but for me the Streaking stopped me from really using the camera
Never experienced the streaking but can see how it affected other folks. It seems like the difference in IQ is similar to how the S5II was a bit of a downgrade from the original S5. Despite the clear upgrades, that part is a bit disappointing! Thanks for making that comparison.
In my opinion, the actual image quality didn't improve much after gh5 and gh5s. They were and still are cutting-edge cameras. Of course gh7 is better, but there is no difference like between gh1 and gh3 or gh3 and gh5
How does this stack up to the s5iiX?
Nice video Matt!
Thanks!!! Gonna be grabbing my popcorn for your video!
@@MatthewDangyou haha maybe get a coffee too so you don't fall asleep
@TheRealRichardWong HA😂 definitely need to get you on the podcast soon too!
Did You Find Out What the Activate Is For in the menu ? Thanks
ARRI LOG baby!!
@@MatthewDangyou COOL Can't Wait For The Video Thanks
Hi Matthew...
Personally what is your A Cam now?
Still S5iiX or it's depend of the job?
Did you notice moire?
About sharpness in general if you use proress raw it is still as sharp or less ?
and digital look can be softened in post imho...
Still got GH5,GH5s still remembering your G9 org videos.
About ARRI log...the strange thing is I usually convert every log from my multicam cams to ARRI log C with cinematch so one step less nowdays!!!
Okay so most of the time still rocking the S5iiX. Thinking about buying though the 10-25 f1.7 lens from Lumix for MFT because that thing might make me want to shoot on MFT more. I personally just like bigger rigs so😂😂 I try to avoid Moire so I rarely notice it, for PRR it is about the same sharpness IMO as 5.8k open gate. And for sure the digital look can be soften! I use opaline filters from element filters to soften my image.
Haha loved the OG G9!! But ARRI bit sized cameras here we go!!!
That launch price though…. $3700 Australian Dollars…. No thanks I will get a second S5ii.
Well it is the same launch as the GH6 so just wait for a discount😂🤷🏼♂️ but whatever floats your boat👍🏻
GH7 looks good. Thanks.
This is a BEAST!
🦁oh yeah!
Dose a CF EXPRESS CARD Have a Fester READ WRITE SPEED Then SSD If No I Wander if We Can Get a Raw Recording To a SSD With a Fermware Up Date To The S5iix
Really depends on the cards tbh I believe
Proress Raw is a pain in the *as for those who use Davinci (90% of the colorists, btw), so I don’t see it’s a big deal. But the AF is great.
Oh for sure! Pro Res + BRAW need to play nicer with each other and the preferred editing systems tbh
Congrats on this...
its overpriced... why someone to buy this instead a full frame..
Stay on G9 pro & still powerfull
Send it to me plz I have a short film to shoot.
waaaaaant
GH6 has better video quality because PDAF ruins the iq as Panasonic always told us.
LOL.