Jack Thompson Calls Video Games "The Greatest Teaching Tool Ever Invented"
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Jack Thompson:”Well maybe I don’t want to be the bad guy anymore!”
No, he still wants to be the bad guy. It's freedom of expression he hates, not games inherently.
@@jackthompson7125 true, it’s just that he technically improved since he isn’t generalizing video games.
Even back in the day, he named Call of Duty as game violence he didn't mind, but that for instance GTA glorified and normalized bad violence.
Which sounds a bit like saying "why would you wanna chose whatever car you want and instantly start a race in whatever country at death-defying speeds, when you could play Truck Simulator and do an honest days work but without the pay?"
Well he was a fully funded NRA straw man (I think that's the term), a political lobbyist paid to fight a parallel or opposing agenda to facilitate a narrative.
NRA funded people like him with donations so the TV stations had a talking head to blame video games. Not guns.
They don't pay him anymore after he got disbarred.
@@boxhead6177and its not the guns fault either. Political lobbying should have been banned in the country the second the founding fathers thought about writing the constitution.
You either die a villain or live long enough to be a normal person.
Or worse.
The dude has always been a troll. So when he saw that the entire industry started acting like him, he became a gaming advocate himself, lmao.
That's the thing Jack Thompson was a warning but not like the ones he gave he himself was a warning of what was coming and we did not take it. The activists that infested and are currently ruining the industry are a direct response and have ties right back to him. We should have paid more attention to the cancer that was infesting things and taking it more seriously. History makes fools of us all.
"entire industry started acting like him" Citation needed...
@@SemiDoge Sorry dude, Wikipedia is in another castle.
@@andrewfantome4020 There's still violence in video games, so...
@@SemiDoge Show me where I said that its doesn’t exist?
Character growth from Jack was not something I was expecting this year, but glad we got.
I wish I could see it that way and not as a man in the late stages of his life trying to rehabilitate his image as he's pretty much looked at as a villain who started everything we're now in. I will never forgive this man for what he was and what he is. The entire reason we have industries infiltrated and ruined by activists is because of people like him.
This is not character growth. This is the same Jack. He is still against the same things he was years ago. He is just reframing it and focusing on the positive things he can say, while the negatives go unaddressed, unrefuted, and unchanged. Look at his understanding of the medium -- portraying visual fidelity as a supposedly vital component in teaching, when there are countless non-game applications with no significant visuals to speak of, which help countless people develop useful skills like speaking a new language. He STILL thinks that the realism is what pushes people to reenact what they see on the screen. He STILL thinks the medium is just a pedagogic tool in disguise. And he's wrong, and has been for decades. He's just saying, here, that the pedagogic tool is good, actually, as long as it's used for good ends (which, I'm sure, are the ends he personally approves of, including the banning of GTA so it doesn't "mis-educate" people).
@@PurifierUnit oh ok
He never disavowed the practice of legislation-through-litigation, so no, not a "le heckin' redemption arc"
@@PurifierUnit
I hope he will not pull a U-Turn.
Either Way though, his Actions will speak for or against him.
But i still agree with you here.
Talk is cheap, Effort is not...
2 possibilities: 1) he’s trying to gain our trust so he can stab us in the back, or 2) he’s finally seen the light and the error of his ways.
I pick option 1
I think he's being consistent with his old views (he did accuse violent games training kids to become shooters after all) but he's probably just looking at things in a half glass full kind of way.
he's like 72.
.
..
...probably got a check from Activision-Blizzard
Who knows? Maybe he's got grandkids who are into puzzle games like Portal.
3 gaming has gone woke and now is in line with his agenda.
Holy hell, I didn't expect to see him in 2024. Guess he's softened up in his old age and sees that games can be a good thing
this is probably one of the best takes on technology ive ever heard from a boomer
I remember this guy from the G4 days. How times have changed both of them
Jack Thompson is the greatest tool ever invented.
At least tools are useful.
This is the greatest redemption arc of the century
You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero... Wait, what?
This was not on my bingo card for 2024.
Once a despised activist himself, I could sit down and have a drink with the guy now considering the ideologues we have to deal with today.
PS2 GTA SAN ANDREAS
increases hand eye coordination
when you have to use
multiple punch in cheats
on the controller while playing
my acuity level increased
by alot after playing the
GTA 3 & SAN ANDREAS games
It only took Jack Thompson, basically destroying his own career with courtroom antics to realize that “perhaps video games are not all bad.”
Good for you, no gold star.
🎩
🐍 no step on snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰
It's a shame that it took everything being ruined by other people to make him look like less of a douche.
I wish I could say wow what a redemption ark but nah.
Just because we have much worse people ruining things now doesn't mean he gets a pass. I feel like I could draw a line right from the people ruining things now and him.
Jack Thompson's version of dementia
Why in recent times are we getting returning old news from IGN about that stupid Resident Evil 5 Controversy (don't look it up because it's stupid you'll lose brain cells)
and just seeing Jack Thompson again but also kinda doing a 180 more understanding what video games can do for the people.
Good on Jack for being able to somewhat turn himself around still :)
Worse thing is capcom bent to that crowd in 2009, and talked all about DEI plans years before that.
Yeah, i am not supporting capcom.
Let them go bankrupt and their games be smacked out of them like a piñata in a bar full of Gremlins
a villain long enough to become the hero in his life us gamers he ruined us today he's a chill dude
Jack Thompson's redemption arc???
Very nice
Redemption arc?
I guess so, but good on him.
Nah, don't trust him.
I would sooner trust a snake not to bite me.
I remember he tried to ban The Sims and then lied about the contents of the game, saying the character models for the sims had accurate genitalia. I will never take anything he says seriously.
And now we have accurate genitalia in Cyberpunk, Baldurs Gate 3 and every other Moded game like Fallout 4, Skyrim ,etc
We have educational games, memory games, puzzle games... there's all kinds of games that can teach people new things despite being games. It's not all violence, guns and sex, so no need to snap our necks.
Well. Thompson is finally fully support of games ever since he left Attorney job. He had his journey to understand Video games. His "Hatred" of Video games was supposed to be his last lawyer challange: make game industry adapt on self regulation( hince he only targeted GTA series). Jack Thompson was a high ranking successful lawyer at the time, once the video game industry booming from "Violent games", he decided to tackle the topic "Video Game regulation" by making example from Rockstar. During his campaign, his college at US goverment, proposed him a bill to "Ban Video Games". But he denied the bill, because he's a high ranking lawyer & good lawyers don't stood this low to "Make new laws that benefit their cases". In late 2000s, he realises his limits & endid the campaign, leading to his retirement.
Even with the violent games thing, it seemed more of a thing of banning their sales to kids...which kind of happened anyway with a lot of games that come under the umbrella of what he was talking about
@@AzraelThanatos And if thats it then I totally agree with him, none of these crazy games for kids, I mean the ratings are there to warn parents after all.
@@justsomeguywithlasereyes9920His main issue is obsession, it kind of became his personal crusade.
Honestly, I think that Columbine and the entire fucked up Doom mod those psychos had was what started him down the path (They built their school as a map for doom and labeled it as training...which is either even more fucked up or it was a way to hide it from parents there).
I kind of compare him to Frank Millar in a way...Frank was mentally fucked up over 9/11 and went off the deep end, Thompson saw Columbine and did the same there.
And at the same time, when he was starting, you had things like Mortal Kombat and similar where the marketing was the "realistic blood" and over the top fatalities which had required massive modifications to come to home consoles at the time, which made things worse. GTA's series had so many things with it as well, and there was the entire sex and violence thing through it that comes off as extremely creepy to hear people talk about it if they don't know what you're talking about, and even then that's somewhat unsettling considering the setting there.
Jacks crusade kind of ended up with him in massive trouble over it with the eventual disbarment and collapse.
While you can't find much about it now, it's very interesting, if you can find it, to see peoples reactions when he defended the original Mass Effect due to the "Ass Effect" scandal with some idiots claiming it included a full sex simulator in the game with full, controllable nudity and that the game was being marketed to kids, then Jack starts calling them liars over it and saying that he actually enjoyed playing it and their accusations didn't fit it, his only complaint is that they could have toned down the violence, but that it was a game marketed towards adults and there was no more sex or nudity in it that you'd see on network TV...
But a lot of the violence part had him semi-disturbed, and I believe that being in an enforced time out kind of settled him out more since, well, he got what he was really aiming for to a major extent.
You know who else wanted videogames to be an educational tool? DARPA.
Thinking that video games are a good teaching tool because modern graphical fidelity makes them "more real than real" is actually pretty congruous with his line of thinking that games teach people to be violent and one of the most unsurprisingly boomer takes you could hear from someone like Jack Thompson lol
...so anyways, do you guys remember the misadventures of flapjack?
yes
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This guy is back again?
Happy to see that Jack Thompson has seen the error of his ways, and finally sees that video games aren't violent pieces of entertainment.
If you look into what he was actually doing and saying at the time rather than the cut down news bits, he never actually was going with all games are violent, it was mainly the more violent side of things and that they were being marketed directly to kids. That video games are more marketed to a lot of different groups and most places have purchase restrictions on the games of the level he was talking about, his actions are a bit more nuanced even then.
Sure, he was a massively overzealous pain for a lot of things as he went all in on it to his and everyone's detriment, but there was definitely more to his views than had been in it.
I was totally expecting this to be a segue into his views about video games causing violence and games being the teaching tools for that, but it's nice to see he actually had a good take for once. Whether or not that'll be the stance he goes with and try to promote from now on… I guess time will tell.
Wow this is so unexpected but good for you Jack. Almost as if he looked back on the actions he took, the things he said, and decided: “Y’know maybe I was a bit too harsh on video games.”
Another thing that’s wonderful about video games is that they’ve come a long way in telling a story, the kind you would see in books and movies because like them, video games are an art form. Whether it’s playing an arcade game for high scores, again telling a great story with thought provoking themes and well written characters or getting together with friends for multiplayer sessions or playing online with strangers, video games have only grown and evolved since the NES. These games are relevant because big names Nintendo, PlayStation, Steam and even Xbox keep gaming alive that’s open for discussion, criticism and creativity.
So Jack, thanks for looking at this art in a positive light
When Thompson says it's a teach tool, I think he means a teaching tool for murder. In fact he used to call various video games "murder simulators."
Interacting and being part of an experience.
Is is generally going to be better than reading about it or hearing about it
I knew how to fly a plane without knowing what anything is called c': even landed like butter
It's entirely possible that this is consistent with his prior views. If he thinks violent games cause violence in real life, it's not a stretch to think the same thing about educational elements. His problem is that he assumes that fantasy violence has some sort of causality with real world violence, which is not the case.
That's a thing not one single study or any academic paper or anything has backed up anything he's ever said or implied. But he certainly deserves credit for allowing the situation we have now with the people within the industry ruining things. He really should step up and take a bow for that. Thanks for nothing Jack Thompson.
Well that's a weird thing to have on the 2024 bingo card.
The industry slowly changed to accomodate people like Jack. He was ahead of his time in censorship lmao
He realized the damage he caused, and what his genderswapped contemporaries by the likes of Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn have caused, and...he...softened his heart?
Good God, we truly are living in strange, dark times knowing that I can say that in this instance? I agree with Jack Thompson.
I need a stiff drink.
Jack Thompson more like adult Thompson
Maybe he will sue Kotaku for taking his entire MO.
I don't play video games to be educated. I play games to be entertained. I'm looking for fun not an interactive PSA about social issues. That's why a lot of people still buying games. I'm looking for fun not a therapy session about someone else that I don't know or care about.
Yep, you got two sides of anything you've got the Nintendo and valve side who say play for fun, and you've got the Neil Druckmann (the cückman) saying games shouldn't be fun or don't need to be. I'll tell you which side I fall on, the fun side,always.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu amen to that
A lot of video games are PSA's on social issues. Hell the big 3 consoles all have a women in video games section for women's history month, and sony and Microsoft censored curvy women and will have a pride event in June, with people offended about the quick transition to diablo last year, with even a Demon portmanteau of priDE MONth.
Many games make gender a taboo word, so you gotta dig to find the balance of male and female for custom characters, minus the ole boob sliders I enjoyed with phantasy star online and the Sims (that also did weight sliders many don't have).
Then of course they lay off a ton of people, have currency and other overpayment dlc scams in annual fighter/sports games, or dlc that needs you to beat the game for the right to unlock, like horizon (all choices but not one for not being a lesbian lol) or strangers of paradise ff origin (marvel ultimate alliance 3 needed you to progress a ton and I cant unlock phoenix as the gauntlet is too tough even afte beating the game and paying for dlc). They should be required to say when you can access it.
games are very good at training the brain and making people smarter especially young ones
I'm surprised.
Why is he still alive?
Let's not get too abrasive on him. It is nice to see an improvement, no matter how small. We can keep our distance the same as before with his opinions, but so far, this is a step up.
Sadly, if the current situation in the industry is any indication, this type of thinking doesn't really mean a favorable attitude towards games. Nowadays there are lots of people (especially among mainstream journalists) who think of games as a "teaching tool" aka "platform to preach about correct politics" and yet they are still rallying against any game that doesn't conform to their views and values.
Video games, video games, video games games games! Hyper reality and virtual reality! 🎵
This is Evil version of Jack Thompson.
if Jack Thompson did the thing he did back in the day today, he would be hailed as a hero by western gaming journalists
😮Wait what!
Remember this is the SAME EXACT GUY who wanted video games banned for being "violent." I don't believe a word this guy says
I didn't know this dude was even still alive. Surprised anyone even cares what he has to say anymore.
Bro like "jk lol"
Bro played Red Dead 2 once and it changed his life forever
Videogames taught him being a lawyer wasn't for him
he won already, that's the future he wanted
Exactly, he doesn't get to backtrack and pretend like he was never the villain.
He deserves all the credit he always wanted for ruining everything and allowing these people into the industry to wreck everything. It's too late to pretend like you've got a neutral or new stance now.
@@JohnDoe-wq5euwhy? He was superseded by culture wars and he didn't threaten game designers outside maybe law suits. You saw the hogwarts legacy mess to hate and doxx people streaming the game. No idea how lgbt conveniently feel oppressed upon hearing that receipt.
I wonder what he thinks of GTA 6?
Talk about a redemption arc.
A game does not require cinematic quality or realistic graphics to be a good teaching tool.
...oh, he's still alive.
I miss you Jack, always you know you were based.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually completely agree with everything he said in this video!
It is tho, specially VR games, those are literal simulations.
Seems like a cope to get away from the bad press he's had for years
Yep, looks like an old man trying to rehabilitate his image so that his place in history won't be just a villain. Too bad though because I can draw a line right from his crap right to where the industry is now. You get all the credit Mr Thompson, everything you wanted you got. You get to lie in that bed now.
He didn't seem like one to investigate the positives of gaming at all, I'm quite impressed.
Saying “He’s good now” isnt right. I dont believe him to ever have been a bad person. People can have many nuanced conflicting views, he was just acting on what he thought was important. Ngl he was a bit of a prick about it tho.
Id rate this Plot twist: 4 Ran Over Hookahs out of 5 Knocked out Pedestrians.
Glad he can finally enjoy them now silly guy
He is telling the truth weither you like it or not
I would say telling "a truth" you can twist anything but I go with what the data says. Not what some washed up douche who was on a moral crusade to ruin people's fun has to say.
Honestly, with Jack Thompson, this doesn't surprise me.
His entire thing was on violence in games marketed to kids, not games entirely. He's pointed to games that he thought did things right and even defended games from entirely unfounded accusations.
A big example of things was with the "Ass Effect" Scandal where some idiots were running around saying that the original Mass Effect included a full on sex simulator and a few places tried to use Thompson's presence in it and he went all in on blasting the people making the claims as being liars and went on to say that he enjoyed the game, there really wasn't anything visible, and his only complaint was in the violence side of things, but it was a game properly marketed to older audiences.
The big issue with him was that he became obsessed with proving he was right which led to questionable situations that got him in trouble.
Ok 2024 has gotten to weird even for me.
My grift detectors are on high alert around the man that told a jury he is Batman as part of his campaign of harassment against a rap group.
I hate jack Thompson a lot but I agree what he says about how video games can help people GTA will always be my favorite game series of all time. No matter what because of it characters and story
Yes true, he has a point everything he said about GTA that people not suppose to do that in real life, but if we are playing GTA just for fun of memories like missions, watching cutscene, music and everything of it then that something different what Jack Thompson don’t only understand
ok something happen to him and something big
wait, he was still alive?
Really
He's definitely onto something about the misuse of games with how half the stuff coming out nowadays is skinner box casino bs
Well, duh. Far Cry 3 has an island full of animals interacting with one another in one convenient spot. I experimented using it in one of my lessons but it was a bit awkward. It's hard teaching students when you have cassowaries and komodo lizards just waiting in the bushes to ambush you.
In another class I used Universe Sandbox 2 to teach my students about our Solar System. One of them had tears running down his eyes when I blew up the moon and its debris devastated Earth.
this still sounds like he wants to ban gta.
Even I’m starting to miss this guy. At least he was entertaining compared to the sjws that are being hired to censor games.
Yeah I wouldn't go that far but I would say at least you knew ideologically where he was coming from.
The multicolor haired weirdos that want to tell you what they/them represent an absolutely every single thing they do in a ham-fisted way are much more insidious.
Remember when Jack Thompson was the biggest problem in the gaming industry? Yeah...
Ah yes the good old days, as I always say talking about the early 2000s I really miss those days. This clown will always be a clown but at least we knew where he was coming from.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu yes
I think even before he was okay with games that were non-violent, though.
Wasn't Jack Thompson's crusade about trying to tie real life violence to video games that have the player simulating violence?
He probably has similar viewpoints on anything featuring violence with the belief that humans are susceptible to a "monkey see, monkey do" mentality rather than an actual human being mentality.
Now in regards to games being an educational tool, one has to consider that all children who survive long enough eventually become adults.
Should we really be hiding things that exist in the real world from anyone on account of age when ultimately everyone should learn and know about these things existing by the time they are adults?
I saw a video of an alligator eating a turtle and while it was somewhat disturbing (a lot of gore), I feel like I am better off by knowing how that happens rather than by not.
Would JT have the same opinion about a graphic and realistic educational video game where you play as a carnivorous animal and the goal is to reproduce and survive?
I know my 28 multiplication table, how to avoid scams, calculating profit per hour, planning, budgeting, risk assessment.
All from a shoddy british medieval mmo. Many of you can probably guess within 3 tries what it is.
teaching for what? puzzle solving? or violence!
Guys like him paved the way for pro-censorship industry like we see nowadays so he can now act like a man who admits he was wrong but his actions leaded to things we see now. Next what? Anita admitting that censorship is bad?
I don't believe him.
Yes. They can be educational tool. But for what kind of education? They can be also a marketing tool - we're all subjected to all those annoying rules supermarket chains or other merchants invent to game the clients and trick them into spending more while thinking otherwise. So which is it, old man?
Simpsons.
Oh geez, Jack Thompson is back? Why couldn't this crazy fool just stay out of the spotlight? Dude was disbarred for a reason.
My guess would be ego, he doesn't want to be forever the bad guy who ruined video games. Too bad though as I could totally draw a line from his behavior to the current nonsense within the industry itself.
still on the bags, mate?
Maybe in 10 years Anita Sarkeesian will realise games do not cause sexism.
Jack Thompson is the reason why we need to remember Boomers and how dangerous they can be.
They call Video Games as the Greatest "Teaching Tool", you know who else said that Video Games are a "Teaching Tool?"
The former Californian Senator Inland Yee (the same man who tried to ban video games during the 2000s).
They are the original SJW classics.
They were
Wasn't he contracted by Rockstar to create controversy in order to gain attention?
I don’t believe him.
Yeah I wouldn't, this man has more ego than brains and only ever comes out when it's something to help him personally. I'm sure he'd like his image to not be of a villain but too bad that's his place in history.
He's finally gone senile
Nah, I think he's just old and doesn't want to be looked at as a villain anymore. Too bad though his place in history will always be as the video game Karen (Darren?) out here crusading against things that other people enjoyed with nothing to back it up besides his own personal feelings.
I always want to think that he's almost got the right idea that he's on the right track and he understands his insane crusade was completely that but you still see the old Thompson sticking out from behind a more modest facade these days. I still don't trust him and I still think he would probably be on the wrong side of things but at least he has a little bit more modest view of things instead of being a flat-out insane person. But still I feel like he's trying to get on the right side of history now instead of always looking like the man yells at cloud folks. Still I don't trust him I don't ever want to trust this man or anything he claims he believes.
You know gaming has become sh"t when this guy now praises it.
LMAO He only says this now because people like Elon Musk said it in the first place that games were good for your health. It's no wonder he got barred from practising lol
this changes nothing- these comments are completely consistent with why he went on his crusade. further "games a teaching tool" in these days is exactly whats possessed the industry now in a different way.
Precisely, the whole fact the industry is riddled with activists and people pushing messages everywhere in mainstream AAA games I can trace right back to Mr Thompson here.
He can sit there and try to rehabilitate his image and act like he's softened his views but I don't believe that for a second. This man is the exact reason why things are the way they are now and he will not be given a pass because he's acting supposedly "more reasonable" now.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu people like this man. it's entertainment, that like any can indeed be used as a teaching tool, but now it's being used by the modern types to try and engineer the world they want by forcefeeding people with it. he himself is just one tiny blip. theres a lot worse going on.
Dude was trying to grift off gaming like Anita but failed and now he is changing his tune
Yeah, teaching propaganda now.
he should have been woke, they've had way more success in ruining games
You can definitely draw a line from his moral crusade BS to the current woke asinine crap that's crapping all over people's fond memories and favorite franchises. I'm not saying that there wouldn't have been another person like him that would have popped up and would have led the charge but he definitely was the tip of the spear for this kind of crap. He was much more of the pearl clutching Karen's but in the end it was basically the same.
Press X to doubt.