Real Private Investigators Solve A Case In L.A. Noire • Professionals Play
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- We put two private investigators to the test to see if they can solve a case in L.A. Noire!
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That old guy just looks like an investigator right out of a tv show, it's great.
Renegade Vile Lt. Joe Kenda
Renegade Vile cough (blue bloods) cough
Lazerline this time on BuzzNetwork
Even sounds like one.
Mindhunter?
It would have been good to mention to the investigators that all the cases in the game were pulled from actual police files from that era.
Omfg I didn’t know that
The guy on left actually acknowledged that it was from 40s, and that cases weren't that complicated back then.
Yeah, that would've been good to mention
Yeah there's even references to the Black Dahlia. Such a good game honestly. Wish they'd do a sequel.
@@osakaszn Ha "Murder wasn't that complicated back then." Again, the case I mentioned has never been solved. They didn't even play the later cases in the game.
I want to watch that old dude do a let’s play of this game.
alex milne I wanna watch him play Max Payne 3
He’d probably ace it LOL he’s a intel officer for the LAPD
And his jewish ( from israel ) look at his chain 🔯
No you don't. Old people are notorious for ignoring the camera stick.
YO I FUCKIN KNOW RIGHT
Old guy thinks he's not getting paid enough for sitting beside a noisy chick
Lol
HaVe YoU eVeR iNvEsTiGaTeD a HoMiCiDe
Wow, that deduction really required Sherlock-level intuition.
You mean a noisy broad
how dare u say that she's a 'broad'??!! She's the 'hottest broad' in Buzzfeed!!!🤪🤪😍
Waiting for "Real Murderers Play GTA V"
damn im criyng
How about real serial killers play dead by daylight
Robbers play Payday 2.
*Real Anarchists.
Now those are hard to find.
They could bring oj
2 escaped prisoners playing " A Way Out" next please
lol i wish
Would love to see that
Then after the recording some cops arrest them after
Then they'll have to look for A WAY OUT cuz police will come for them
DKOdonny More like 1 cop and 1 prisoner hehehe
Best thing about this video is how these guys just completely stonewall all of this girl's unfunny funny quips.
yep i wanted to enjoy this video
As long as they leave that girl behind I'm all for it. They could call their channel "A couple of dicks". Because they're detectives.
Mundane05 ikr
Mundane05 yes
Mundane05
Hah, clever.
I thought the real investigators would play not the girl 😑
to be fair not everyone and no offense but the investigators look old and may not know how to play these games. However, she could play for them but talk fucking LESS GOD DAMN
@@PRubin-rh4sr The younger guy of those two, could held a game console pretty fine earlier. Lol.
Can't believe they put Kelsey (the host) just to make this video "more interesting and less boring." The girl's personality is alright, but please, her vibe was ruining the mood. I can barely hear the game's voice acting and the other two's talking.
i think its ok if Kelsey play the game, but she's just too noisy in this video. but cant blame her, i think shes tryin to make the situation less awkward (all quiet, no one's talkin).. but yeah, at some point, she made unnecessary comment
roasted
@@o.602 bruh fr I was trying to hear even though I already played that case lol sorry for the late reply I just saw this video in my suggested.
I’d probably be arrested immediately if I was being investigated, I’m terrible at eye contact
I think they’d be able to tell if your just really bad at eye contact
Ok
Lmaoo same
It’s not all about eye contact
Skinned, fried and cut up potatoes Same
I don’t know why but I was expecting this video to open with “Hi I’m Jack Barsky and I’m an ex KGB spy.”
rachel lmfao
Haha its the same line every time
LMFAO
rachel Same, wow.
My name is Michael Weston I used to be a soy until...
The person on the left is so done with her lol
He offered me a job. 10/10 best friends
Hey Kelsey, great video, I think you're full of energy! Best of luck for your future endeavours.
so weird ..haha.lol
Hey, Kelsey please be the mother of my children.
He's probably thinking "why tf am i doing here watching someone play games"
This girl ruined the video. I don't want to hear her, i want to hear the investigators talking and thinking
Lo mismo, intolerable
Same picture
Julian Rodriguez lo dices en espanich porque su imagen es khe berga? :v
What do you expect from Buzzfeed.
I Thìnk She just saying in a different way not the investegators way so She Make this like a joke
She's got such a bubbly personality. Truly she seems like a wonder to be around. But just not for this video.
What a polite way to say someone is annoying
@@bupoo I agree.
Andy M I fr read ur reply when he said "I agree"
I love your pfp
Indeed, seems like a very fun girl but this video would've been better without her.
They need to redo this video..
With her not in it
You have Kpop Stars as your pfp. Your opinion doesn't matter
Please do!
@@QrowTheGoat does mine matter?
I don't see it that way.
She's very cute, bubbly and friendly and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that - it just wasn't a good choice to put her between two hard-boiled investigators and talk over everything.
Whiteknight? 🤔
Most reasonable comment
@@boiyee1861 I don't think you know what whiteknighting means.
@@KAMIKAZEE3421 "a person or thing that comes to someone's aid." I do.
Thats a contradiction lol
This girl was a good addition...
*Doubt (X)*
X
X
X
X?
X
I clicked expecting a rather serious tone of two detectives playing L.A. Noir and instead I get a blond girl screaming in my ear... No offense to the girl she's cool or whatever but this was not the video for her
Thank you for putting this thought in a relatively politer way compared to all these other comments...
I couldn’t agree more tbh
@@Sm00thieK what a ray of sunshine you are XD
Right these cops are pretty cool, but this chick....God
DarthZak she looked at a bloody pipe and was so proud it may be the murder weapon... 😂
Why can't the host just let the two investigators listen to the people being questioned? Every time a character speaks she throws in a "like" or "what" or "wow" or something like that.
because its buzzfeed and their primary audience don't comment and rely on her to determine how they should feel about what is going on? You don't you can't expect a buzzfeed video and not expect a tailored experience.
Oh...ok yeah that girl, no. Not even 5 minutes into this and i'm already done. Those guys get a gold medal for taking all that.
AppleBerryKitty
That pfp pretty Weeb just like mines
I stopped after 1:30 and went to make sure in the comments that everyone else was struggling too 🙄
My personality hm?
It's that suppose to be a insult or a compliment by any chance?
Though I guess I'll let that pass since you said no offense.
@@CJbrinkman602
Talk about judging a book by its cover
yup, I agree this should really been redone. One of the main reason this series is fun is to have a glimpse into these people's sheer professional ability. The supreme irony is this probably isn't all that different from the emotional turmoil they have to wade through in their jobs, lol.
That girl ruined the video. A good idea wasted
She Make thí video like a joke not a React job game
Yes the girl made the video actually better if it was the only investigators then it would be too easy and boring
Lies
I agree
@@shivamworld9918 The girl made the video obnoxious if it weren't for the girl the investigators can actually make the video fascinating learning things.
Host gotta take it down several notches
Luca P hahaha😂
Several notches is an understatement
"This one time, I was on a date and I didn't like the guy..." OMG STFU no-one cares!
Kelsey is really nice but I don't think her personality fit that well in this video I would have loved to see Ryan from unsolved on this tbh
Oh my God yes.
Yepp
Shayla
Same.
I will marry Kelsey
She's so kyoooooooooooot tho :D
They look so annoyed with her lol
Captain Capuchin They represent the majority population😂
Being too bubbly isn't the norm in their fields or in many occupations.
I agree with you man. i played this game and its amazing and i dont overeact like her
Captain Capuchin Because she says noaire
and rightfully so
10:57 "You know what, I think I'm gonna hand this one to the professionals."
Took you until the end of the video to realize that.
DanishWithAGasMask thank you my guy for spitting facts
Bro are you an idiot? They cant play video games
@@HURRIC4NEyt They literally can tho, you can see the youngest detective driving right after she says that.
@@HURRIC4NEyt It really does not hurt to let them try.
And if they struggle, they can just play the interrogation/questioning part.
The thing is, this is a story driven game with a lot of dialogue... and so it doesn’t really help having someone constantly talk over dialogue and distracting everyone. The investigators are silent because *they are trying to listen to the game and do what Buzzfeed hired them to do* , which is play the fucking game.
Yeah 😂
To be fair... they were wearing headphones so it was easier
@@onyxi.x5777 lmao. headphones couldn't save those two men's ears with the host's loud voice lol
They had an opportunity to get actual private investigators to play and react to LA Noire, and they chose a mission from traffic, instead of homicide or vice?
Jake Nhan Right? Red lipstick murder or The Golden Butterfly would have been perfect missions for the private investigators
They chose the first non tutorial detective case. It's probably the fastest, which must have been a relief for the guys based on how this girl is acting.
"Does that mean a dead person?"
*Silent eerie nods*
The old guy had enough of that girl by the end
We all did
So did I, the chick was annoying.
@Todd Howard Well I'll be damned.... 😒😒😒😒
I had enough of her at the very beginning, such a fucking annoying moron, she should become one of the LA Noire's case victims IRL.
@@Rivexd LMAO
When someone asks you to think about something, but they keep interrupting you while you're thinking about it....I almost enjoyed this video.
next episode: real mafia gangsters play GTA
kijiji93 Why GTA? There's literally a game called Mafia
You mean Mafia 2?
How about real psychopath plays as Trevor in GTA V?
kijiji93 how about prisoners play a way out!
Creepy Clown mafia 3 was doo doo
Percentages of the comments;
*100%* Wow she's so annoying
*1%* Good video
*.5%* My math skills
Yumzbearz The Memer thoughts it said meth skills
Yumzbearz The Memer 101.5% ?
Weeaboo r/woosh
Asher Sirius r/ihavereddit
The girl made the video more exciting...
Press X to doubt
(X)
(X)
X
X
(X)
She's talking during the interrogation/questioning. *Annoying.*
I knowww
THANK YOU!!!!
Tom Ives I'd still *pipe*
shes overlyexcited
She's so fucking annoying
Her jokes are more dead and lifeless than the homicide cases.
Gustavo Martinez c'mon it was humor at least
Mohamed Muhsin Sultan Im going to pick the “doubt” option.
@@muhsin_sultan [] Doubt)
Mohamed Muhsin Sultan X to doubt.
+Gustavo Martinez
This comment made me wheeze laugh
"Would you have me come on as your partner?"
"Maybe not for the surveillance part..."
Vicious.
Spotting this on Recommended: "Now that looks like an interesting concept!"
Less than two minutes in: "Aaaaaaand, I'm out."
uh? I don't remember "with a loud obnoxious gamer" being in the title
Nuclear Effect I don't think she's even a gamer tbh.
gib501 Well, "she can't play" isn't a point really. I'm no good at certain games either and I can't use a gamepad as good as the average person, but I do enjoy games more than certain gamers. You don't have to be good at games, you have to like games to be a gamer
Daniel LLITPEK I disagree. Strictly liking something doesn't grant you the title. Liking science doesn't make you a scientist. Dancing in your living room doesn't make you a dancer. Proficiency in what you do may grant you a title. Obviously this unofficial rule does not apply to everything, but i feel you get my point that it does to gaming.
ProfessorCheeba anybody can be a gamer, it's just there are casual gamers and hardcore gamers. But both are gamers nonetheless because video games are a media meant to be consumed by normal people.
vijayendra wairokpam With respect to your outlook, I stand by the thought that the title of gamer is earned by a level of proficiency or attachment that one has playing games. With that said, anybody can play video games; I'm not trying to make anybody feel lesser than in any way. Also, casual and hardcore gamers are both gamers just the same, the only difference between casual and hardcore gamers are that the hardcore gamers take whatever game they're playing very seriously, whilst casual gamers tend to not be as competitive. Hardcore gamers are those who compete, where as casual gamers are those who tend to take a looser grip on the virtual world they enter; sometimes even fuckin' around with no objective. I see the title of gamer as a way to distinguish between those who are dedicated to the gaming community and those who don't put much thought into it. Like gib501 said, the woman in this video has a lackluster knowledge of how to hold a controller. That is the sort of thing that sets apart one who plays from a gamer. I tried to go really in-depth, so I'm hoping its not too much reading for a UA-cam comment lol. Much love, and I hope this made sense, man (or woman.. idk).
She's too loud. Awesome concept for a video
i was so excited to watch this until i saw that it was buzzfeed. my intuition was obviously right
I know she’s probably talkative bc she’s excited, but it would’ve been better if they let these two men play the game without her yapping. I bet they missed information bc she was drowning out the audio.
At least they had headphones
They should have just had one play
MONA LISA I Mean Yea She’s Talking But Not Loud
Anonymous Panda!
You’re probably the person who talks during shows and is quiet during commercials, because 2.8k plus people would disagree! She was loud asf.
Yapping was a word 5 years ago 🤯 I thought it was like newly invented
No offence for the girl
But we actually needed the atmostsphere here to watch it properly
i feel so uncomfortable with the girl lol i feel so embarrassed for her idk why
like gurl stop ugh annoying
outfoxed ahri ikr
Its called cringe.
Type of girl who goes around and say I'm a nerd! I'm different! I'm unique! I'm special!
Yeah, if she would of just did minor interchanges of dialog, or waited till the end of certain stops of the game to talk, while the other 2 gentlemen were working the case, it would be a little more interesting.
but yeah... The cringe is strong.
When you try to be funny, but you end up destroying the whole video.
Jim M exactly how I felt
“Well something’s dead”
when you're female*
the alien secureteam10 is looking for xD
@@immortal_morty1347 not sexist at all
Can we see hitmen play hitman please?
jamster36012 hahaha
Impossible. A hitmans are wanted from feds
LUL no
I’m pretty sure being a hitman is illegals
baka nga? r/wooosh
Do all blondes have their volume set to max by default?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
There might be a switch in the back might be a myth🤔 not sure
I think its an American thing..lol
Lmaoooo
Yeah, people talk loud when they wanna act smart. Unfortunately, blondes are terrible actors
She keeps ruining the moment with her shocking face
I like her face!
I WISH TO INSERT MY MALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGAN INSIDE OF HER FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGAN.
Jason H
Creep
Jason H Fking creep
She's 12, I'm calling the police.
I love LA Noire but the host makes me never want to play this game again.
I'm gonna play this game again but this chick mann
Same
Maybe somebody forgives the girl. But to me, the girl spoke too much that take over those two investigators' words. In other words, the two investigators were less willing to speak and just let her spoke. And we will never know what these two cool dudes were thinking.
I kNOW rigHT.
These poor gentlemen were treated horribly! But seriously though, two cool dudes' commentary > a childish host.
Who is the old guy he is so cool and straight forward
ikr
he is called cool guy
HE LOOKS LIKE SCOTT SHELBY!!!! FROM HEAVY RAIN!!!
He has a Jewish star necklace
I feel bad for that old guy having to deal with her
lol you said it like she were to blow him and he didnt like her
I would watch both of them play this game.... minus her.
same
No.
RockstarVideo what? I wanted to hear more of their thoughts. Not hers.
Same i rather watch the guests play the game without her talking or ruining the video
good idea terrible host
Definetly...
Its buzzfeed dude
completely agree
yea it´s unfortunately too awful to watch
Was really looking forward to see private investigators solve the goals, but the girl was acting too childish to where it wasn’t enjoyable.
She was laughing nervously at her own horrible jokes. I hope people who know what theyre doing can get ahold of these two and make a new version. This was super uncomfortable. No one else was laughin lady.
stfu no it didin't
Galaxiverser HD No....no it didn't. This video was lame because of her nonsense.
She is cute she should stay
Saibot She is 12, I have contacted the FBI and they are on their way.
Campers I bet you Saibot is ten you fucking perv I bet your 30 so ima fall the cops on You
Take a shot anytime the man on the left smacks his lips.
The Mellon Dollar Man tryna kill me my g
You trying to kill us!?
I got it,hahah...lol
i passed out at 0:30
Heyyyy he’s an old dude cut him sum slack man!! 🤨😏
These are Private Investigators, give them a harder mission.
SecretAgentZach Give them The Golden Butterfly.
S H I T P O S T The Golden Butterfly is a moral decision that has no right answer. That'd be really interesting.
too overeacting just ruined the whole video disliked it
could you redo this video with just them? thanks
Agree with picking another serious person.
Damn what a great idea. Shame buzzfeed used it. With a host who is way too talkative and loud
nobody:
that blonde girl: “iM LiKE a yOUNG paDAwAn aNd yOu gUYS aRe mY JEDis”
Sounds like a Star Wars porno
Its sooo cringe😖
Such an amazing premise for a video-but such an annoying host that really dampens the quality of what could of been..
I salute those two guys
Who played the game with that annoying women
I didnt even watched the whole video because of her..
izhar ahmed same. She should be fired immediately.
You've never seen any lets play videos? This is how gamegrumps jacksepticeye and any moba player talks
Diego Sanchez on the contrary she has been the top gamr content creator for this channel, the comments in the other videos by normal people are receiving her very well
I accept that those guys talk alot
But not like her
izhar ahmed That's literally what I wanted to comment.
Very cool concept but executed poorly
Bank365 normal for buzzfeed.
There's a video by G4 from a few years ago that does this with a homicide detective, and doesn't add any annoying commentary, just straight up his reactions. It's only archived now though, if you want to watch it it's at archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video53057 - I know the link seems sketchy on its own but you can google "homicide detective plays la noire" and achieve the same results.
Holygiant thank you I appreciate it
Those two detectives were looking at that girl like "we aren't getting paid enough to tolerate her."
Agreed they wanted to slap her for her stupidity
Great video series concept but the host totally ruins it. Hyperactive, obnoxious, screeching banshee. I just want to hear the guests speak.
SYL Ben I lost it with the banshee part, you made my night anonymous person!
Agreed. Great video idea but she ruined it by trying to be the center of attention when EVERYONE came for the detectives playing LA Noire... not her.
Screeching banshee 😂😂 love that
She really did ruin it, I was disappointed
Kyle Gamble EXACTLY. I saw the title and was instantly interested. But 60 seconds in, I paused it and scrolled down to see if anyone else couldn't stand the obnoxious host. I'm, so disappointed. That I can't enjoy this interesting video because of a loud, obnoxious host. Damn shame.
"Have you ever done a homicide"
"Double homicide"
"O O F"
Elijah Jensen lmfao I was guna comment that but 😂😂😂😂 u win 😂 she obviously plays roblox 😂
Wowww you quoted the video! congrats, go get yourself a cookie you reeeally deserve it >_>
Your Left Hand triggered
Melly How?
"Look guys! I'm an excited and funny host! Haha! This is so fun!"
Meanwhile the PI are like "wtf".
Word
*"What questions should I ask him? It doesn't matter, I'll be making inane comments over whatever he says so you won't hear him!"*
Pipe with blood splattered on it
Surprised that it's a murder weapon
Why is she in this video
Blazei Masteru it’s buzzfeed, the bar is set pretty low
bcuz buzzfeed
Buzzfeed
If it's a murder weapon, then why is there blood ALL OVER THE DAMNED PLACE, huh? It looked more to me like a shooting, though, now that I think about it, you're probably right.
Goddamn She Talk's To Much
same
Change the host next time
The whole "be super extra and act like you're always on the edge of laughing when you speak" thing that infects every buzzfeed video is why people hate buzzfeed. 100%
I wish she wasn't there 😤😤
Cooking Mama with Gordon Ramsey. Make it happen
RobDaBlob off yourself
PlexyPanda YASSSSSS IT SHOULD HAPPEN
PlexyPanda yazzz
ITS FUCKIN RAW
PlexyPanda And just Gordon Ramsey, not an obnoxious host that ruins the whole thing.
That girl made me cringe more than i would in a day
Excelon Tumbocon for fkn real ..
So this is the day where you cringed the most in your life. Your not alone.
When I have too good of a day... I come back to this video to balance it out
GreenGrounds lmao
Redo this video without this girl
she ruined the whole video....
Nah she really did tho
TheWonderBoy Boxing cringe
Agreed
frontsilver 60 why?
Avery Newtown cause I said so 😀
Man they were really good at this. So cool to watch although the girl is kinda annoying
The woman ruined the video
Lol same
She couldn’t go 10 seconds without talking
is it just me or is she trying so hard?
1mikhaelone she is
According to my calculations, It might have been the case, over.
Typical buzz feed
Trying WAAY too hard
She's blonde whatchu expect?
They both hated hearing that woman talk.
Why does she talk too much
These two private investigators deserve a medal for being so patient with someone as annoying and airheaded as this presenter.
For real!
at 9:50 she picked her own answer even though she said at the beginning she would consult with them before pressing a button, the man to her left even voiced his displeasure with her doing that!! She also kept talking during dialogue & her high energy and annoying personality did not match the tone of the game which had me feeling like I was watching a terrible whacky mix of a comedy slasher thriller noir film.. Great idea & game though, the two dudes were nice as well! Please continue this series with a different host!
I love your profile pic!!
Que chingue su madre el América!!" xd
F Britannia jodete chivaculero
Isaac Botello It's a logo orf a football club in MX
off with her head!
I'm pretty sure I, and most people, clicked on this video to watch the gentlemen who are private investigators talk. Not an unfunny, annoying, childish, dimwitted girl. Please take that into account next time, thank you.
Damn, she ruined the video but you didn't have to be that mean, That was like seventeen insults.
r/iamverysmart
@@Termsofseve u got to be kidding me if you don't think it is.... I'm not on the girl's side ffs just that this comment sounds a bit over the top
I have to agree, but she was actually making some pretty good deductions tho
@@PatsliTV She has obviously played the game before. I have also played it and so it was so painfully obvious to me that she's trying to impress people by acting like she's making deductions.
I feel like this would've been better without the obnoxious chick and dialogue appreciation.
The guy on the left, the older guy. He couldn't look more like he doesn't want to be there!
Because he realised he had better things to do then listen to a loud mouth
When she made the Padawan and Jedi joke I almost threw up
thats exaclty why i stop watching this video...
I didn't even get that far, too much cringe.
Especially that fucking valley girl accent of hers.
I'M LIKE A PADAWAAAN, AND YER LIKE MY JEDIIIS~
Yeah, she's like trying too hard to be "cool" and she's messing the whole thing up.
But I'd definitely flirt on her.
This is the kind of girl I would never play anything with.
Lonely Potato101 not even Rock Paper Scissors, she’s find a way to ruin it
Skarletkombat I'd play Rock Paper Scissors with anybody
i would play with her, if u know what i mean.
Matt there's only one way to stop her talking when we're playing something.If you know what I mean?
Skarletkombat 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Can we have a another episode of this? I like it so much and actually want the professionals play it themselves not that I don't like the girl.
Marian M You can hate her. She’s loud, annoying, obnoxious, dimwitted, unfunny, narcissistic and extremely cringeworthy.
I agree with the two of you
hahah
you shouldn't tho
@@wofi784 ??? stop projecting 😭
girl: *sees a bloody pipe* this could’ve been the murder weapon, right?!
investigators: mhm
girl: *in shock that a bloody pipe could be the murder weapon*
🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Legit thought it was funny that when I played this my dad walked past and saw the car full of blood and diddnt even need to see the thing about the pig and just goes "Gotta be pig blood. To much to be human." and they diddnt even say anything after seeing the receipt for the pig then all of the blood. oof.
Damn, the blonde is oblivious........
12:30 Use her for the interviews...........
john angeloni She’s a blonde that’s why
The guy in the left reminds me of Shelby from heavy rain
Thumpstar 27 SHAUN
Thumpstar 27 They look so different tho...
Omg i was looking for someone to comment that!
That bastard
For people confused as to why everyone is hating on the blond, here is a timestamp to sum everything up.
1:15
I hate that she ruined the entire video
I personally liked the video but what i dont like is people staying here just to hate and just ruin peoples days. Please just watch something else instead of hating if thats what you gonna waste your life on
@@HURRIC4NEyt Well I made this comment a year ago but even then, it wasn't meant to promote hate, just pointing out that a great video was tainted with the woman's cringey fake personality.
@@HURRIC4NEytshe was fkn annoying STFU 😂😂 at least 90% of the comments are about how obnoxious she is. She’s probably still obnoxious in 2024.
I was intrigued by the private detectives but the host was getting on my nerves.
Lucky you.
Felt the same way, i cant really describe it though
This chick and her sarcasm are big strike against this video. She's very annoying.
Also, she obviously doesn't really play video games.
She does. She makes some gaming content on this channel, which is why she did this.
Jenna Nicole Smith Well, she fucked up with her cringy commentary.
Jenna Nicole Smith sadly they don't care they just wanna whine and be emotional 😔
Farrah Coulee I'll see you in there, darling.
The chick makes it unwatchable
4:33 This man just made his coat vaporize out of thin air.