► WTF Is... - Citadels ?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- TotalBiscuit takes a look at a recently released medieval strategy game from Games Distillery.
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In fairness to the language issue in the game (the characters not speaking English), the language as we know or it, or even the version Shakespeare knew, wouldn't have existed at the time King Arthur was supposed to have been around.
good observation actually
Good job I barely discussed the graphics then
His last words sum This game, Ride 2 hell and Guise of the wolf...
Page 15 of the manual (available using hyperlink on the game's Steam page) says this: "You can select a group of units which you want to assign to a number on the keyboard, or add single units to the group by holding down CTRL and left clicking on the unit. Once your group is selected, you can assign it by pressing CTRL and a number on your keyboard. You can now select the group by simply pressing the assigned number key." FWIW.
I worked for the developer Games Distillery and was testing the game (we were small company and my actual job title was something else). I came here again to remember the brilliance of Total Biscuit, and this game is a closest connection to him I have. I love his videos and was fan long before he made this review/first look. When I saw it I was thrilled and amused then he was pissed by this game several videos later.
I agree this game is unfinished and actually a crap. The game was released during development by our publisher without our knowledge (they used some build we sent them to show what is done so far).
Dude, that sucks. Do you know which publisher did that? I see that Citadels was co-published by BitComposer and HandyGames
Man, this game looks just like an rts I had in mind when I was twelve. Archers running along the wall, giant arrow-flinging thing on the tower. It's sad that it was not even finished.
@@Hazarth can't really recall. might have been the bitcomposer as that rings a bell.
anyway, the studio no longer makes games, but 3D visualisation software under different company name. I no longer keep in touch, so I don't know more.
"well, where to begin?" *instantly goes to options menu*
"V-tech just kicked in yo" That just cracked me up xD
I didn't mean on the minimap, I meant being able to see them. There's the stone within his view that he can see and is collecting, and as he scans around, there are other similar looking spots which lead me to believe stone would be there, but he can't see the stone because he hasn't explored there.
thank the gods for Totalbiscuit!
When i saw this game on Steam, i was so excited because it appeared to be a Stronghold style castle-builder, which nobody seems to have wanted to make since like 2002. Dont developers realize there's a huge market chock full of people that want to build/attack castles??
So this game seemed like a wet dream of mine come true - until totalbiscuit skewered it, and rightfully so. Hilariously so.
10 patches later, I'll pick it up for 5.00 on a steam sale.
Thank you, you just saved me some money :-)
Keep it up TB
You can get stronghold 1,2,3 and 4 expansions for $9 .
Waiting for a good Empire Earth sequel.
*****
oh yeah, Empire Earth III was a thing...
F~ck that game was terrible.
OMG i couldn't stop laughing at the guys chasing the catapult, perfect Benny Hill moment
I cracked up, when he mentioned Stronghold Crusader as the supposed "last good castle building game we had", after having already mentioned Battle Realms in this episode.(on which he did a "This is why we can't have nice things" a while back)
TB never seizes to amaze with solid knowledge of past titles.^^
Almost bought this.
This Game looks the same if not slightly worst than Age of Empires 2, And that game came out when O.o.
a age of empires and stronghold rip off to me. To bad it sucks, cuz it looked pretty good
This is just one of the funniest wtf's in a good long while.
Thank you TB.
They didn't advertise the game, it came out what like 3 days ago and its playable atm.
Right there shows what the end product will be,however the developers are posting that they are actively fixing the game, small performance issues, tool tips, fixing levels...its all on the way within the first week.
If they sold it for 9.99 they release and walk away, for 40 you gt patches and an active community.
I dont think the game will ev er compare to the great RTS games but its definitely playable
Don't get me wrong, this game was terrible and had a lot of problems at launch that it shouldn't have had. But I also don't think every RTS game should be copying Starcraft either... I've always hated SC's way of just plopping you down next to all the resources you're going to need, then having you semi-mindlessly spam units.
a valid opinion. I do like the starcraft model but I understand how somebody wouldn't
***** D-Did you just reply to someone who didn't have the same opinion as you civilly!? YAY! There are people in the comment sections that aren't total assholes!
Miss you total.
This game is from slovakian game company ? Well, it doesn't surprise me, that it's shitty game... We (Czech republic) can make really better games than this (like Kingdom Come) , and our neighbours (Slovakia) make really shitty games.
Thank You! Age of Empires is the main game a played when I was a child. It brings back memories.
Look at Kerbal space or Prison architect. Now those developers have a very strong idea and a community behind it.
If the developers of citadels gets a response from the community saying we want different color peasants, thats 30 minutes of work its just no one knows.
The catapult faster than melee units, again thats some number on a spreadsheet,takes 5 seconds to tweak it.
The 40 dollars is for the core game, yes its expensive but they need to buy food and keep a roof over their heads.
this game dont even deserve a review lol
haha total biscuit is so spoiled by games that lack intuition. This is a bad game deff, but really he cant find iron ore? It isnt that hard.
I must admit that seeing the siege engines run away form the knights was hilarious.
Checkout Banished. Currently in development. Not sure about the warrior side of things, but from a builder/harvester perspective it looks amazing.
Catapult Tokio Drift classic, thank you sir. I needed that laugh and thank you for saving my wallet from a medieval train wreck. It's sad I love medieval rts's. Thank you for that comment about castle building, I'd suggest knights of honor on steam it's awesome
Because most game reviews tend to go over the game as a whole, whereas what TB does is go through a segment from the beginning of the game and give his thoughts based on that, without going for the idea that it might get worse later. Going over the whole thing is the label the term "review" carries in popular culture at the moment, so that's why TB makes the distinction all the time. First impressions in gaming do count, after all.
Agreed. I even liked the expansion, although the "starships" were basically a different type of naval vessel.
Hey TB: I *do* kinda like the idea of being able to use raw resources or needing to refine them for higher-tier units. As you mentioned, though, it's been done (a la Pharaoh). I also liked the artistic style of Citadels. Aside from the obvious "Where's mah peasants?!" issue, it looked very characterful. Too bad it sucks blueballs....
possibly, but as I replied to another guy a second ago - I think a first impression is an assessment of a product and therefor, by definition, a review. He offers some conclusions at the end of the video about the worth of the game, so there have obviously been some reviewing going on.
Man I would literally kill for a good Castle builder that allowed me to build pretty much anything and manage my army and everything.
I do hope they keep coming up with games in the future, just for the sake of new reviews. Lovely episode.
Not really.
For one there's stuff like motion blur, the eye sees all positions that an object moves through but in a videogame things don't move continuously, only on frame changes so there's a certain amount of jumpiness to movement. E.g. when you move your hand quickly under halogen light you can see the individual images produced as the light flickers even though you are not able to see the flickering itself.
And with games the framerate dictates the input lag of the game.
So, because it's from a small, not-as-well-known dev team, that automatically makes it worth a purchase? Well, by your logic, that makes Revelations 2012, Amy, Orion: Dino Horde, Stalin vs Martians, You Are Empty, 3D Cartoon Land Safari and Super Monster Bros worth playing as well!
"The game has crashed! IT CRASHED!". Perfect ending. laughed my ass off.
I'm so freaking glad for waiting on what TB has to say about it.. Again it pays off! :D Total Biscuit, thank you for your existence!!
Lol, this was hilarious. Thanks for the heads-up TB. It sounded good on paper but was waiting for someone to talk about it.
Many, many, many of the bugs, glitches, missing UI elements, have been fixed with patches. Keep in mind this video is made back near release. Citadels has made some big strides in making this game better. Still not bug free sure, but much better.
but it was released as a finished game, it should of said early access or beta with that many bugs
freezinfeet my only point is the developer (on its second now) has at least made strides in the game rather than leaving it for dead.
and the mistake is being paid for by the developers early release without any testing, hes still making/ finishing off the game, that gives people every right to complain about it. i know your just saying that its better know but the game will always have that history of its release that will cripple its future hopes
freezinfeet And thats fine, just wanted to make people aware that this video does not depict Citadels in its current form.
I see your point and it actually makes sense. A good indie or low budget game from a small developer can get better with a strong support of the community.
I don't agree that it is that easy to fix the problems and tweak the balance so easily, specially after a release but there is no point in arguing that.
Yes, food and roof, but we can agree that at this stage the games value is not even close to 40 dollars. And if you look at Kerbal and Prison, even they charge less.
Well resource icons are good. You can se axe at wood icon, pickaxe at ore, smith hammer will be iron i guess, scythe at wheat, axe can be weapons. This is not game fault but yours (unlike other things you point at).
...and resources seem to be automatically-generated once the relevant resource-production buildings are constructed. That doesn't invalidate TB's concerns regarding lack of tooltips or other things; even the manual indicates certain things that don't seem to exist in entirety in the build TB is playing.
Releasing the game before it's finished is what seems to have happened here.
Agreed, good sir.
And the Benny Hill theme is called Yakety Sax, for future reference.
TB uses dual NVIDIA Titan's. This is only because he runs 1 for game graphics and 1 for recording.
The best graphics cards in general (according to the passmark website which tests them) are currently the NVIDIA Titan, NVIDIA GTX 780, NVIDIA GTX 770 and the NVIDIA GTX 680
I just love it that games like this get released. Hearing TB tear it to shreds makes my day.
I'm not sure if they're grunts or sighs, but they're awesome.
This game reminds me seriously of a game called Warrior Kings ages ago. It was one of my favourite childhood games.
Pretty sure it's like a HD version of the 'original' Space Hulk video game, based on the tabletop game of the same name. Might be worth having a look at a review for the original if you're stuck.
Btw Biscuit, I was wondering what you thought about Medieval Lords: Build, Defend, Expand. Apart from the other game you mentioned Stronghold Crusader which was just epic, this is a slightly bit different, but very good itself.
Btw to answer your question, we havn't had a good castle building game since Stronghold Crusader because companies are releasing games that are complete crap by the bucket loads these days..
Are... you directing that toward TB? As the rabid fanboy I am, I am encouraged to defend our lord and saviour TB for his sacrifices of playing this game and informing us about it. He - whom shall be forever held up as the perfect journalist and let's player that he so totally is, shall not need any hand holding - that stuff's for mortals, not the grandious TotalBiscuit - he does well without hand holding you'll find.
I can't wait to hear what you have to say about that new Space Hulk that just went on to Pre-Purchase on Steam.
if you arent being sarcastic, i will explain. King Arthur who the base of the whole Arthurian aspect is from is from England. And also basically every game with a similar aspect have English as its language.
i've never seen such a funny Lets Play :D
your voice is much better as the game :D TotalBiscuit for President!
Y'know, I was going to say TB might be getting a little harsh on the game. And then...
"I can't kill it! I can't catch up to the catapult!"
Wow. Just wow.
"It still hasn't caught the catapult, by the way."
That's got to be the silliest thing I have ever seen in an RTS. And I've seen all the Kane cutscenes from Command & Conquer.
"It's healing itself! I can't kill it!"
Ok, TB was 'faulty' at the showing resources on map. But I think what he implied (and said) was how could he find it when he doesn't know what it looks like because "IT DOESN'T HAVE A TOOLTIP!" -TotalBiscuit 2013
QA is Quality Assurance, it's not what you think though. It's simply: "Does it run without crashing too many times"... that's it.
In MMO terms, TB is the main tank between us and the untamed beast that is the gaming industry. We need to keep healing him so he can save us from unnecessary damage. :P
Empire Earth is actually 12 years old now. I loved that game to death, shame the sequels were nothing like the original.
"DOES THIS LOOK LIKE WOOD!?" love that lol
The chases really needed the Benny Hill theme playing in the background.
Also the eye doesn't see things in frames, it varies from person to person how high they can notice a difference but it's way higher than 30 try playing a game in 30 fps then 60 you'll notice a huge difference
He doesn't bitch about them, he reviews the games and he's pretty accurate, reason why people turn to him for information. He just says it as it is, no sugar coating.
This games terrain looks pretty much like my first texturing job for terrain ever. It was also nearly my first texturing job period.
The premium 'Turn around and buy anything from Warcraft 1, SC:BW, Cossacks, AOE up to SC2:hots for an infinitely better experience' simulator.
That catapult fight would have been much better with the Benny Hill chase theme playing in the background.
one thing i think the video game industry sees alot more of than other businesses , is the lack of understanding.
Not every game can be a homerun, not every developer manages his team and resources perfectly and not every good looking game can become a franchise.
In the RTS genre you get more of the grown up kid than the actual 7 year old cursing at you which certainly has is downsides, we all feel entitled to a great game, if the developers are happy and 1 customer is satisfied they succeeded.
"V TECH JUST KICKED IN YO", i am going to enlist this in my day to day vocabulary. Thank you TB!
It was published bitcomposer, essentially allowing it to just straight up bypass the Greenlight system. Steam has a lot of issues with how content gets on to it.
I highly enjoyed this video. lol I really wish you would bring back why do I own series. I enjoy your justified rage and pointing out bugs.
Ty for saving me a ton o' money. Would also love a couple more single draft disaster vids.
There's a few games that let you do loud-outs like that:
Earth 2150, Earth 2150 The Moon Project and Kohan Immortal Sovereigns.
You can probably find them for a couple bucks on GoG. It would be nice to see more RTSes do that.
>doesnt know what im talking about
>likes to be involved
>these are based on me
>i have heat contracted urctaria
Archers have a hard time hitting things because of the physics in the game where the arrow will not just lock onto the enemy it was targeted at
Empire Earth was an amazing game! Also, did anyone expect this game to be good? You have to know by now that if the devs don't advertise their game before release it is because it sucks so badly that no one would buy it if they knew anything about it!
"Avoid at all costs" is pretty damning. I wonder if they'll put that on the box?
But, it is worth noting that Valve are not letting certain games which would benefit its community through Greenlight. And yet this got straight through without greenlight.
I see your point [about only being a reseller] but considering that Valve are actually a dev I would expect that reletively unknown publishers would be checked. They were also pushing it on the homepage.
Total Biscuit is the chef Ramsey of video games
TB, how exactly do you spell that soul-crushing groan you let out at 10:47 in the video?
It was masterful.
I could watch watch this a dozen times and still laugh my ass off, oh wow.
As bad as the game is, I really enjoyed the fact that you found it "Laughably bad".
That made this video very entertaining, along with informative.
Well done, as usual, TB.
:D
you can get a beautiful, huge collector's edition of Age of Empires 1 and 2 for that price. In a physical form. Bah, who the hell would want that? LET'S BUILD CITADELS AND FIGHT THE FILTHY PEASANTS.
I would find it hilarious if, at the end, you could hear him trow his mic/headphones/something away and just walk out of the room, without saying a word
I guess so, I didn't write the specifics because it's a bit technical and I wanted to make it short :)
You should do more of this, very humorous in my opinion.
Just when I though you were going to finish it with "My name has been TB"... "It's crashed!" XD
Sure it has, that's why Dwarf Fortress has universal acclaim and a fair amount of popularity. The whole "Graphics roll" sentiment is outdated, that was a thing about 5 to 10 years ago.
Of course, most big studios still seem to cling to that sentiment, but that's them, not the players. The main reasons all-out graphical games still gain a following nowadays are fanboyism and the fact most of the time smaller developers don't have the resources to offer decent, gameplay-based alternatives.
"VTEC just kicked in!" slayed me.
That's because most RTS games are CPU bound. The power of your graphics card is usually of little consequence, as most of the time the game AI, pathfinding, enemy detection, sometimes even the animation etc. is all done on the CPU. Of course, this is in regards to an RTS game specifically. RTS's crush CPU's very easily.
His double Titans won't help him much there lol. I liked the review though, it was very informative. I absolutely love games like this, but if the UI and tooltips are that bad, it definitely detracts from the game.
So if I'm looking for another RTS and already own starcraft, where should I be looking?
WTF is? and Alpha Strike are both first impressions, the only difference is that alpha strikes take a look at ALPHA builds, or pre-alpha in some cases. Reviews are well thought out looks at the *entirety* of the game and all it's facets, this is just a short little first impression from TB's first hour(s) of the game and a little summary, that way he can give us a good quick heads up on as many games as possible as well as quick warnings on bad products, case in point.
6:07 " WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
~The Catapult
There are standards on P.C. that games clearly don't meet, especially if they don't run well.
Games like Crysis (made in 2007) still look better than most games today.
Steam is a digital retailer. Valve is no more responsible for performing Q&A on the titles sold on the Steam platform, than Wal-Mart or Gamestop is for the titles they display on their shelves. Valve is only responsible for the games THEY publish.
It's always been incumbent upon the consumer to perform a little bit of due diligence before they buy something. The fact that it's a digital copy of a game changes nothing. And frankly, the warning signs were there for anyone who bothered to look.
To answer the first paragraph, first impressions still count. It'd take a miracle for a game with this many faults (Which you yourself claim to have noticed as well) within the first moments to improve drastically. That's why he reinforces the notion that first impressions do matter, particularly with how not everyone has all the free time in the world.
Also, the language and clothing choices weren't the only problems he had. Just saying.
I can't stop laughing, epic review, its like the game itself was making stuff happen just so you'd know how bad it was for this review. The crash at the end.. priceless.. I just wish I woulda seen this review before buying this game....
oh god the laughter i had at "catapult tokyo drift"
I know that, what I meant was it is the companies which set the price of their game obviously... but since valve are the ones who decide what go on to their store page (and valve gets a certain % of profits) it is partly their fault if a game is released to their service in a buggy state because they should be taking responsibility since it is on their service and they should QA the titles on their service not just randomly accepting anything just because they get a cut out of what is sold.
The ground texture looks great when I watch this on my phone!