Springfield XDM: Still Relevant Today?
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2023
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The XDM is an updated XD with the only differences being in the grip frame. I own several XDs in 9, 40, and 45 and I find them to be still outstandingly designed and extremely reliable and rugged.
I have an XD40 Service Model 4 inch, that I bought new in 2002, 21 years ago. I was going to upgrade to the XDM 40, but I didn't feel there was much of an "upgrade" The trigger is identical, contrary to XDM "match trigger" BS. The barrel on the XDM is a little thicker, but accuracy is the same as the original. Both grips are slippery and require Talon Grips. Finally, I have always preferred the look of the original XD.
Oh yeah those Croatia's know a thing or two about war and making firearms.
Doesn't the M designation stand for " match grade"? Bought mine in 2009. Better accuracy over my XD, and it was consistent, could have been me
Missing 3 calibers that the XD-M still carries that the Echelon does not. IF they want to close down the XD-M line they will need to incorporate the missing calibers into the fold.
I started to go down that line of thought, as well as the many current configurations and sizes of the XD-M line but I thought it might get too convoluted if I did. But yes, that is a major reason I think the XD-M is probably a long way from moth-balls.
I agree, however you know those models are coming.
Found your review at random, it made me ponder...I've got an XDM I bought in 2008, have used as a truck gun, carry gun and now home defense accessible gun. No lights, no lasers, no optics. just pure function. Best polymer gun trigger from a factory gun I've owned. Fits like a bespoke creation, great value and 16 years reliable operation. Who could ask for more??
A very timely video. I was just shooting my XD-M Elite 10mm and reflecting on how much I enjoy shooting it. Great pistol.
Personally.... I'll take the XDM over the Echelon any day. I think by now Springfield would have a variety of frame and slide sizes for the cogged Echelon. But no.... so with that... being a member of the Croatian brotherhood of the XD ill continue to shoot my XDM Elite.
Plus the Echelon has had the disastrous rollout of the extended baseplate magazines that disassemble themselves...
I really really really like Croatian pistols!
With Biden's new import ban now nothing can be brought to United States from Croatia and South Africa Israel and others.
Great review as always.
I’ll never get rid of my original XD, HS2000.
Whatever happened to the Mod. 2 version with the gripzone? Other than the gripzone part I thought it was a really good gun.
I love the xdm. Upgrades could be made like the new optic mounting system the echelon has.
I don't like that the echelon does not have a metal guide rod. To me the xdm elite is the best out of the box pistol on the market at this time.
I can shoot an XDM better than any other 9mm I have owned, including a G17. I got a better than OEM pin to replace the one that can fail. Still trying to beat it though, VP9 may be the one.
Relevance depends on the person. If you have a firearm, train with it, use it, and take care of it then it’s relevant. Doesn’t matter if it’s twenty years old or the ‘latest, greatest, and shiniest’ firearm on the market
I love my XDM 40…had it for a while and always love to shoot it. Less practical because to me it seems more like a duty gun but it is so easy to shoot compared to my Sig p365 in terms of recoil. The barrel almost flows back into place for the next shot. Great gun.
Ive carried an XDM for over a decade. I love them. Personally am NOT a fan of the Escalon. It absolutely kills me that they are killing the line. I have only really ever liked XDM pistols
Four months later, SA has discontinued all but the 4.5 inch XDM Elite in 9mm, and kept all of its 10mm variations. So glad I bought my XDM Elites long ago. And, yes, the original XD's in 9mm, 40 and 45 are still on the website. As for the Echelon; I have one. I like it, too.
I own 3 XDM variants, its a solid platform.
Thank you for this video. The question of relevancy can be applied to any firearm that has been either upgraded and entered under a newer model #. I feel that the question of relevancy should be answered on any firearm being able to meet the original
purpose/ intended goal for which it was originally purchased. To your question of the XDM relevancy compared to the Echelon, just by the fact it has a grip safety, I say yes.
Now that I have said all the above, is it Springfield Armory’s intention of replacing the entire XDM lineup? Until they can get different grip frames to dealers, and their sales show a real demand for the Echelon, it might be a big risk.
As I mentioned in the video - I am certainly not "in the know" about any plans or lack thereof. I expect that no such plans currently exist, at least not on any short timeline. I think the XD-M line will be around for some time to come. Good point about the grip safety.
I missed an XDM Elite 9mm Tac pak sale at PSA earlier this year...sadness. If it comes back at that price, somewhere around $550 ish, I will not miss it again. Very nice platform.
The gear up deal with Springfield is going on right now.
Yeah the 10 is lower than the price you said
Half that price at KYGunCo
I have a few different XDMs, great used gun value, better trigger and designed by the great one , Rob Latham
Rob Leatham has more money in the trigger job etc.. than what the gun is worth new.
Till they get different sizes and barrel lengths and more calibers. They should keep the XDM going. I'm looking at the Echelon for me, but if I'm not happy with it, I'll give the XDM a look.
I think it all depends on what Springfield’s intentions are for the Echelon…if they continue to fine tune the Echelon, with different levels of it( entry, mid, elite), then the XDC may not have much more time.
What brand of ear protection are you using?
I would think even if the 9mm XDM ended up getting sunseted the 10mm pistol is one of the more popular 10mm Pistols on the market right now (especially the 3.8 incher which AFIK is really the only concealable 10mm pistol out there right now) and will probably stick around indefinitely unless they create an Eschelon variant to supersede it.
I wonder if SA will continue with the XDM
I haven't shot the Echelon but its really light weight which makes me suspicious about its snappiness. My favorite FS striker fired guns are the XDM and the M&P because they're on the heavier side and hence recoil management is heavenly. I have a Walther PDP and its annoyingly snappy and since the echelon weighs less than the PDP I suspect the recoil mgmt will be accordingly annoying.
I’m late to the party. Would love to see a video where you shoot this in a competition.
Going to my ffl tomorrow to run my background and wait 72 hours and get my xdm elite 10mm osp...
Still LOVE my XDM 3.8 Compact... a fantastic and very versatile EDC!
here here I have2 in 40 and 2 in 45
I got a 10MM XDM when that caliber first came out. I haven't upgraded it to the elite and still have and carry it because I'm used to it and accurate with it. I'm in the market for a small CCW but that won't replace my XDM. I see them as 2 different tools for different use reasons.
Beretta continues to drag not just one, but two obsolete, yet well-loved pistol lines: 92 and Px4. So this sort of thing is not impossible, if the market demands it.
Obsolete is a strong word for two perfectly up-to-date lines of pistols that are surging in popularity; not to mention a groundswell of aftermarket support from Langdon Tactical
The PX 4 is one of the toughest and most accurate pistols ever made . Ernest Langdon put 50,000 rounds through one with no cleaning , just lube , before he had a failure.
Love the XDM. Hope they continue to produce them!
The real question is whether the original XD line is obsolete.
No because they will still make the original XD for the California market, as that and Glock gen 3 are the only plastic strikers we can buy new from a dealer.
Xdm elite has been discontinued according to their web page
Hey Springfield, Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I consider my XDM trash for the most part, only thing it has going for it is its reliable if you don't load it to capacity plus one. Plus one it stove pipes every time, considering the M in the name the trigger pull varies from 5.5-6.5lbs.
I only keep it for shooting steel because its a .45.
This platform will slowly drift away. Model by model, there will be new and better options
The xd hasn’t been relevant to me since I saw one lock up during a pistol class. The something in the grip safety broke and the slide couldn’t be manipulated and the pistol made safe.
After that I refused to sell them at the store I was at.
So 1 failure and they're crap is that what you're saying
@@misterj1968 a very big failure that rendered the pistol unable to be made, yes. This was a few years ago when I was working in a store.
I’ve never seen or heard of a Glock, S&W, CZ, hammer fired sig or a 1911 have a failure in the trigger components that made it unable to be manipulated and made safe. The exception being with an over pressure cartridge or an out of battery detonation that damaged the firearm in some other way.
I’m not the only one who has seen a failure like that either. Aaron Cowan had a picture up of a similar failure from a few years ago. There are multiple reports online of the grip safety sear breaking with use.
If you like them and it hasn’t given you issues, cool. I don’t like them 🤷♂️.
They should discontinue the xdm now.. the echelon is just an improvement overall
You’re wrong. The echelon is only in 9mm. The XD-M comes in .40, 10mm and .45acp.
At least keep the 10mm
@@RadDadisRad so keep the worse design instead of making the better design in other calibers? 🤣
What you're trying to say is, the xdm should be discontinued and make the echelon in those other calibers. They clearly will.
It's a better gun
@@maximusjoseppi5904 I said nothing about better/worse. Just a statement that the Echelon is missing options. When they can fill those voids I wholeheartedly accept the extinction of the XD platform. Until then it’s more relevant than the Echelon.
@@RadDadisRad let's be honest, the xdm isn't relevant even without the echelon. That's why they made huge investment to make the echelon.
You don't have to say better or worse, it's an objective observation. The echelon is a better gun in every measurable objective metric.
Probably not, the Echelon blows it away.
Echelon doesn’t come in .45 or 10mm, so maybe it doesn’t blow it away.
or .40@@RadDadisRad
@@gracedagostino5231 that’s a barrel swap and feed lip fix.
I would rather have the original XD40 Service Model 4 inch, just an incredible pistol.@@RadDadisRad
@@gracedagostino5231 I understand that. I always wondered why the XD-M was never offered with full size frame and the 3.8” slide and barrel. I personally prefer the M just because of the more aggressive grips and stiffer mechanisms.
Just as Sig slowly fades out most of the DA/SA line, so should S.A. should fade out the XD models. To not, is to be Gastoon Gluuck simply refusing to evolve his forty year old lack of perfection.
Constantly offering meaningless changes because marketers and a naïve public demand it is not a virtue.
Anyone else old enough to remember the laser sight craze? Followed by the weapon light craze? Yeah, fads aren't a business model. Companies that just build good guns are totally justified to just keep making 'the same, non-evolving thing'.
Also, as more police departs ditch the Sig P320 to avoid their increasingly common fire control group failures resulting in rounds fired where they aughtn't go, Sig would be very well advised to keep the DA/SA guns around that built their company.
The classic Sig line isn’t going anywhere.
@@Ceemysixit already has. All because Cohen o.k.'s a SAO version and puts an X on the slide doesn't mean the SA/DA libe is flourishing. I have a safe full of them.
@@jonesclantdChiefs switch because they get free trips to Vegas or Hawaii. Because of under table love. Because a Gluuck costs Gastoon under one bill to make and he sells the first ones cheap. Then after Chief Dribble signs the contract that contains a non disclosure promise, Gluuck tells them the soap bar has a 5 year service life and has to be replaced. So you'll never know how many cops got Gluuck leg. LOOK OUT ...... I'm waving my 320 around it might drop
grip safety's & "grip zones" are NOT relevant today.
Just discontinue Springfield.