2025 Toyota Camry XSE Fuel Mileage Test from an Actual Owner
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- This was my fuel mileage after my first week of ownership doing RideShare... I was really busy this weekend and it was still cool out. So I stayed moving and didn't do a lot of idling.
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It's interesting this guy does a lot of talking but I want all of the color commentary. It adds to the authenticity of the test. A great video keep up all the good work
Appreciate the support... I'm sure I could always just do a 2 minute video, but sometimes that seems rushed when I watch a video that I'm trying to learn from. If I was changing a setting on the dash that only needed 1-2 minutes to go through, by all means I'll keep it simple. It really just depends on what kind of video I'm making.
Thank you for these details!!!!! 😊
You're very welcome... I'm hoping it can get better and I'll have other videos coming out as well.
Yup, it's all about the smaller tires. It's been stated in numerous reports, and explained in other cars the same way. So the LE has 16 inch tires, and that's why it's the only one of the four that gets the better mpg. Also, make sure you get the oil changed multiple times in the first 5,000 miles. That's the break in period in which once all the metal gets out of the system, then you'll continue with better mpg, and less wear on the engine. You'll also lose mpg the farther down you get from half tank. I never understood that, but it holds true in most cars that I've owned.
Yeah... I've definitely come to that conclusion that I need lighter wheels and tires. And this fuel mileage has never been attained since that weekend. Lol.
As far as the oil change. I've definitely done that. And I have a video showing the oil analysis break down with the metal in the oil after my first oil change at 2200 miles.
I'm at 13k miles now and I've changed it 3 times already. (changed it the 3rd time at 11,600.
I just bought the XSE AWD. Haven’t gotten millage results yet but according to everybody the AWD and bigger wheels definitely reduces the milage. To save money u really don’t need the Premium pkg. The XLE also gets a memory seat (not avail on XSE).
@@todd5082 yeah.... Not having memory seats was a huge letdown. I think toyota dropped the ball on that one.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS I agree. The cost to design another interior “without” the memory switch probably cost the same amount of $. Should have at least been part of a Premium Pkg.
It's the wheels/tires on the LE that gives it the better mileage. Rolling resistance and wheel/tire weight makes all the difference with a hybrid. The easier the tires roll and the less inertia it takes to propel the tires (weight) will effect the amount of time the car can spend in electric mode. It's that simple. I own a 2018 Camry LE Hybrid and tires make all the difference in the world. If you want a XLE to get the same mileage as a LE simply swap out the wheels/tires and you're there.
Perfect... You own an LE Hybrid... So have you tried different tires and how much effect did it make if you did try different tires?
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS The original Firestones wore out at 45k. I was averaging 48 mpg with Interstate driving at 70 mph average speed and 56 mpg whenever I would spend the day on 55 mph highways. Then I replaced the tires with a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2's and my mileage instantly dropped to 40 mpg on the Interstate, and 50 mpg on 55 mph highways. The Michelins have a more aggressive tread and weigh 4 lbs. more each. Now that the Michelins are down to 6//10th's tread, my mileage has improved to 46 mpg Interstate and 55 mpg Highways. When the Michelins finally wear out I plan on getting a set of Bridgestone WeatherPeaks (I like All Weather Tires for their safety) and a set of lighter 16" alloy wheels. The WeatherPeaks are 3 lbs. a tire lighter than the CrossClimate 2's, and the 16" alloys are 7 lbs. lighter than the 16" steelies the 2018 Camry came with, for a total savings of 10 lbs. each wheel. I expect my fuel economy will return back to what it was despite the tires still being All Weather due to the 10 lb. weight savings per wheel.
@@escheidl man, that's good to know. I've asked this question in groups and to dealers, and you would think I was speaking French. Lol.
They all try to say it's the weight of the extra options.
1. If that's the case, all trims would have different fuel economies as every trim package gets heavier.
2. If that were true, you'd also take a big hit on fuel economy every time you had a car full of passengers.
I'm glad to see you've got factual data and understand the angle I've tried to research but couldn't find factual data to backup. Now I know.
Unfortunately, the wheels on this car look really good. So I honestly have no reason to change these heavy bastards....lol. But maybe, once I get my second set of tires, I'll try something different and have better results.
I'll get an xse for the funner suspension and then swap with someone for the XLE wheels asap.
@@lionintu SE, XLE and XSE all get the same mileage. It's only the LE that gets the better fuel economy.
45.7 mpg on 2020 camry xle hybrid from day 1 to now at 25k miles. Never reset the mpg's. It changed from 45.6 to 45.7 about 6 months ago. Always use eco mode, there is a noticeable decrease in power going from normal to eco mode. It's a 50/50 mixture of city/highway driving. Tampa FL area.
Yeah.... I tried the regular mode because some people claimed to get better fuel economy in that mode. I feel like it drops 1-2 mpg going to regular mode. So I swapped back.
the difference in fuel used going from 40 to 50 mpg is negligable. 15000 miles a year at 40 mpg your using 375 gallons, at 50 mpg it is 300 a savings of 75 gallons. Lets assume gas is $3.50, only a $262.50 savings over an entire year or just under $22 a month. If you drive less than 15k the savings are even less. I wouldn't worry too much about increasing MPG when your up above 40.
You're correct in your math, but I drive about 6 times that in a year. So at minimum it's about $100/month in fuel savings I'm giving up. That's my car insurance payment right there.
But, it is very true... I used to drive an 18 wheeler where a half mpg mad a world of difference from 6.5 to 7.0
At 700 miles a day, you're looking at a difference of $30-40/day.
So yeah, my 0.5 mpg difference is negligible even in my extreme mileage case. But another 10 mpg would be HUGE for me as my expenses rise enough for it to matter.
Thanks for making this point though.... I'll be sure to include it in a future video.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS wow that's a lot of driving!!
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS see if you can keep it running past 1 million miles
@@BrianNC81 that's definitely the goal... Around 400-500k when I give it to my daughter for her 16th birthday. Figure if I take good care of the maintenance it should last a long, long time.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Change that oil every 5K.
Is 91 octane recommended? The manual says 87 octane (or higher) but is it worth putting in 91?
I don't see any advantage to running a higher octane... But I have thought about trying it to see if there is a fuel economy difference.
We have 87, 89 and 93 here. 89 is usually enough for even stuff that I've tuned that has more timing in it. But it would be a test you could try out and then do the math to see if it's worth it.
With the price gap on different octances nowadays, I don't think any gain will ever justify the price.
bruh...are you using eco mode at all?? BTW....I noticed in your first video you had a little fold in the rubber lining on your driver window. That same fold is still there in this video. Can you fix that or no??
I never noticed the trim piece... I went out there and pulled it out. Of course it's bent from being stuck that way, but hopefully once it gets some sun on it, it'll lay flat.
As far as the ECO mode, I keep it in ECO mode. In the city trying to keep it in hybrid mode, it's easiest in ECO mode, because the pedal is stiffer.
My plan is after these next couple of weeks, to change to normal mode and try it that way too. Because I've seen a lot of people claim the 8th gens did better in Normal mode.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but you are one of the very few owners of the new Camry doing real owner reviews of the car, people like me looking to buy. The rest are “dealership” reviews, which are oftentimes not based on long term actual usage of the vehicle.
I don’t know if you have one already. Can you do a video on the things you don’t like about the car, and things you wished you new before your purchase?
I haven't did one yet.. This is my 3rd week owning it, so I plan to do one in a few more weeks. Get a couple more oil changes in. But that's the exact reason I started doing them. All of the reviews are based off of BS factory specs. So I wanted to put out real world data.
please do not reset total mpg after getting gas only tank mpg gas then you will no life time mpg on car my dad has a 2023 RAV4 hybrid xle with nickel metal hydride battery he drives 800 miles per week and drives very conservatively with ac set to 78 degrees in Florida he gets cold quick his weekly average mpg in RAV4 hybrid is 44 mpg to 45 mpg and his total life time average over 54,000 miles is 46.8 mpg winter time in Florida not having to use ac does help boost up his mpg in the cooler months where he can barley use ac he gets 630 miles per tank and in the hottest months in Florida he gets as low as 580 miles per tank these numbers are also real hand calculated numbers from miles drive and gallons use with 2 clicks sorry about long post just waited to say what his 2023 RAV4 hybrid xle gets
Thanks for the feedback. I know the RAV4 has the same drivetrain as the Camry... So they should get similar with the Camry being better because of Aerodynamics.
I also don't think the fuel mileage gauge in this car is recording from the moment you reset it until you reset it again. It varies entirely too much for that to be the case. I do believe most vehicles work that way, but this one keeps changing even after a couple of tanks of gas... More like it's based off of the last hundred miles. No way to prove that now, but eventually with time I'll just let it go for a month and with 8000 miles on it, see if it's still varying just as much.
Does acoustic front and windshield really help to beat the noise? How noisy car is on a freeway?
It really makes a huge difference... I talked about it and 5 other things I like in my latest video. You should check it out. 💪
@@johny3133 I have the XSE and it’s library quiet. I’ve never owned a Camry before so I can’t compare. But we did trade in a Genesis which is known for its quietness. After reading all the details (I luv details) the 2025 Camry is more than a refresh….it’s a big generational upgrade. And a good one at that.
I live in Florence, Alabama. If you could tell me roughly the amount you paid for your Camry xse? I own a 2023 Hyundai Elantra limited hybrid and I would like to trade it eventually for the new Camry xse.
I live in The Shoals. I got mine for just under $40k. I got mine from Brantly Youngman at Toyota of the Shoals. They took damn good care of me.
Be sure to get the 4 for 1 deal too. My next video is me having a blowout up in Nashville and coming back down and getting a free tire with 3,000 miles.
Stop on by I’ll take the same amount of care with you as I did with him. Your treated as a best friend I have known my whole life it’s how I was raised and I won’t do it any different.
Hi, a silly question but i got my 2025 camry 2025 SE hybrid and got upgraded to the 12.3 inch dash. Where or how do i see the total mileage in mpg from day 1. I have trip a and trip b but they show only miles and average miles/h. not the mpg. can't see any settings / buttons for that.
I'm unsure what you're asking for... So are you trying to find the fuel mileage for the entire time you've owned the car? The only way I can think to do that is if you knew how much gas you've bought and the miles on the car and calculate it.
Or are you talking about just seeing the display for the fuel mileage like mine shows on the left side?
If you're going to use that car for rideshare, you should consider 16"-17" wheels. Those 19" wheels are bad on rough and pot holes.
I've got a video about the first blowout I had... And I've had another one recently on the same wheel. Lol
Rolling resistance yes. But also smaller rim.
Correct... The size of the rim does effect fuel economy at highway speeds. The air traveling through the wheel itself causes resistance and needs more energy to keep moving forward. So larger wheels cost fuel vs smaller wheels.
On the other side of that, wheel/tire weight effects fuel economy in stop/go situations. The less they weigh, the easier it is to get the car going forward. So even a larger lighter wheel can have better fuel economy in the city.
Also, just went to look what size tire is on the LE... They also have a 205 tire vs the 235s on all of the other trims. So, it may behoove me to try and get a slimmer profile tire on it as well. This may be harder to do in an 18 if I can't find narrower wheels. I'll definitely be researching up until that point though.
It’s the size of the tire. Le has 16 inch tires whereas the higher trims have 18 or 19.
I believe that to be true as well... I wonder if they're lighter as well.... Weight makes a difference as well.
Nailed it! More specifically the weight. The impacts of unsprung weight and reducing rotational inertia help with fuel economy by quite a bit.
@@KealeyOnCars true... Especially on low torque/horsepower cars. It takes more effort for them to get it moving than say a pickup truck. I've watched a video where a guy added 100 lbs of unsprung weight and it didn't hurt the truck at all. But on small cars it tends to make a world of difference.
LE is a 16" wheel vs 19" that's what cause the mpg difference i wish there was an option to get 17" wheel on the XSE. I am getting 44 mpg on my 2025 XSE no AWD in eco mode. its suppose to get 47mpg i have yet to see it.
Same here. I'm getting 43.5-44.0 all the time. There may be a time in the future where I switch from these 19s to 17s that are really lightweight and have great tires that will help improve fuel economy.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS yea low profile tires look nice and all but i would rather have side wall and comfort then a race car tire that blows out on the first big pot hole
@@Mohagrus have you put it through some corners yet... It handles great and pulls hard out of the corners 💪
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Old folks love this old school sedan
Yep. I'm old. 😂😂
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You’re good! 60 isn’t old. 👍
@@billyrock8305 😂😂😂 got a couple more decades to go 😂😂
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Wow!! Really??!!
the mpg on the camry is not that good compared to the new Accord Hybrid, I have around 4000 miles on my accord hybrid and average I get 56mpg
@@jackhglass what trim level Accord are you in? The LE Camry will get about that. The XSE will never get that kind of fuel mileage.
Yeah just gonna stick with my original plan and get the Le. I might put on some aftermarket wheels later on
Right... There was a lot of other stuff I wanted that upgraded me from the SE to the XSE. If I didn't give thousands of different people rides, I wouldn't care to have the different seats... But I had to have black leather and I didn't want the smaller screens either. Before long you're in the higher trim standard stuff.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS yeah the leather is very convenient. Easy to clean and maintain for sure. So much easier to wipe off a spill on leather. Your observed mpgs are right inline witih what they advertised. Id imagine it's all from those wheels.
@@JamaicanMeCrazyyeah, the leather seats were real nice when a girl got gum on one Saturday night. She got it off no problem, but if it had been cloth, it never would've came off.
@@JamaicanMeCrazyand the fuel mileage is most definitely got to be due to the wheels and tires. And I saw where Toyota claimed 44/43 on highway/city so it looks like it's actually spot on. I thought I saw where some videos claimed 47/46... But I just looked earlier and it's 44/43. So I can't complain at all. This may be all I can get. Unless I find something that will make a huge difference.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS44/43 MPG is for the XSE AWD version, 47/48 MPG is for the XSE front wheel drive version. AWD and 7 extra HP is what makes the difference on the gas mileage. So which version do you have? The AWD or FWD?
Is it possible to put the le tires and wheels on xse?
Sure... If you want them on there. They are basically the same height tire, and definitely the same bolt pattern. There's more than enough room between the wheel and caliper as well.
Can I ask what drive mode you used?
@@TrangNguyen-wd9dq eco... Standard gets worse fuel economy for me.
I just purchased my SE on tuesday and im not quite getting in the 40's in terms of MPG will this improve after the estimated 1000 mile break in I also run the car on ECO mode each time I drive just curious! Thanks for any help provided :)
By the time you go through your second tank of gas, you should get the fuel economy on your 3rd tank. It took a few tanks for me to get better fuel economy.
I run ECO mode and get the best results. But it also depends how I drive it. It can definitely get high 30s when I drive the shit out of it. 😂😂
Thank you so much!! I drive 160 miles each day round trip to work today was my first day taking it here! It’s hard to stay near the speed limit here in Louisiana as everyone drives like maniacs 😂 So that may also play a factor? I tried to keep my speed around 75-80 with the needle on the speedometer staying in the eco portion.
@@zandervaraksa963 you'll learn the best way to drive it... The fuel economy meter shows average(green)and current(white)... You want current to be to the right of the average. This is impossible to do when accelerating with the gas engine. It uses a lot of fuel to gain speed. It's all just a matter of playing with it. Flatter roads make it much easier.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Thought so! I’ve only had it 2 days so i’m sure eventually i’ll figure out how to drive it best. Thank you so much for the tips!!
@@zandervaraksa963 you're welcome... Hope you enjoy your new ride.
Great vid! I really want to buy the car but I am worried about new first-generation problems. What do you think?
I think it's a Toyota, so most issues are going to be minimal. The car is basically the same car as the 8th gen, with new fascia. All the technology has already been out on other toyota cars as well as the drive train. So it's almost all been developed already and then put on this car.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Yes, that’s what I thought too. Just wanted a little peace of mind before I reserve the car tomorrow. Thank you
@@bluepoint4342 I don't think you'll have anything to worry about.
@@bluepoint4342 so what color did you decide to go with?
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS I love Ocean Gem but I am going with more classic Heavy Metal
My AWD non-hybrid Camry is rated 25/34 and I get 29/40. I don't hyper mile it. It's in sport mode too. I don't know what I'm doing wrong 😂
Sounds awful... Lol. Have you done any mods to the car or anything?
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Nope, bone stock, OEM tires. I do put it in neutral at stop lights and take my foot of the gas when approaching red lights or traffic that hasn't started to move yet on the green.
Gov MPG ratings r just estimates from their test. My 2025 AWD is right at 44 MPG city only driving but only gone through a half a tank thus far. But too early to tell.
mpg comes down to mostly weight
More of the weight of the wheels and the difference in tire width/compound/rolling resistance.
The weight added to the car is negligible. Because if that was the case, every time you had a car full of people, you'd lose 6-8 MPG.
My real world MPG is better. Model is 2025 XSE without sunroof. Driving distance was ~200 miles. Mostly freeway driving (estimate 80% freeway, 20% other). MPG 44.1 and climbing.
So are you calculating the fuel mileage, or just going by the dash?
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS going by dash.
@@bjornlovoll8972 yeah, that's off. Mine is regularly off by 1.5-2 MPG when I calculate it.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS As of now mine reports 44.9, so even if it is off it is still well over 42 likely over 43 (based on your calcs). We'll see once I get more miles on it.
I'm considering swapping the 19's for 18's for added driving range (since the SE gets better MPG than the XSE). Make for a good video (nudge, nudge) I know I'd watch it.
@@bjornlovoll8972 I definitely plan to change wheels eventually. Not because I don't like these, because I think they're perfect for this car and the best looking for it. But I really want the best fuel economy possible because I drive so much.
And there probably smaller. Tires that is.
The wheels are definitely smaller, which means they're likely lighter as well. Then on top of that, larger wheels tend to effect fuel mileage more on the highway even, because they let air flow in between and it gets dirty air. That's where wheel covers would help. They're ugly and not going on my car, but I wouldn't be against a wheel backing plate to keep the dirty air from going through the wheel. Maybe it could help.
He talks way too much...
I'm sure the video would be great if I just didn't say anything at all... In the future I'll be sure to come on the screen and not say a word. Just 30 minutes of riding down the road staring at me. 🤣
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS can't please everyone. Keep up the good work.
@@JamaicanMeCrazyappreciate you bigguy.... I don't worry about these folks. I've watched videos from channels I didn't like the content either. I generally just click off of the video. There's other channels out there. Everyone likes who they like. Lol
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