Guantanamo Ex-Detainees Talk Through Their Past Torture (HBO)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- It's been 15 years since Guantanamo Bay detention centre was established by the Bush administration. Despite calls for it to close by Barack Obama the prison remains open - and Donald Trump now says he wants to keep it that way.
To mark the anniversary Vice News Tonight spoke to former British detainees Moazzem Begg, Safiq Rasool and Ruhal Ahmed about how their lives have been impacted post-Guantanamo.
Over dinner, the three also recall both the difficult times and the moments of humanity at the United States Military prison.
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so when are we going to charge America for these crimes against humanity ???
I do agree it is bad, but please use the proper terms "war crime", also i think terrorists are considered unlawful combatants so they don't have rights in some international treaties (fact check me on this). It is horrible how they irresponsibly collected people and didn't give them trials.
I get that, but the criteria used were somewhat schetchy for some people.
And I thought this comment bunker was safe from trolls.
Go for it lol
nvm nvm when America is not a superpower
Damn, these guys have been through unimaginable hell, and still have such a positive attitude towards life. I would be friends with them any day.
💯
They aren't innocent
devinngeorge how do you know this?
devinngeorge they got released without any charges.
Dan A So did Jussie Smollett
The positive attitude and easy laughter of these men is one of the biggest testaments to the strength of the human spirit I have seen. I can't imagine what it was like to be there and to try and retain your humanity, your sanity.
They didn’t have it bad that’s why
Wow that psychiatrist is a screwed up person
I do hope you are talking about the two idiot doctors who made 181 million dollars for their inept bullshit. Jose Rodriguez didn't even vet them beyond "well OK they developed the SERE program so they're OK" But SERE was to keep American soldiers from talking NOT FOR INTERROGATION.
Did you know that more than 600 prisoners were released from Gitmo after spending from 3 to 15 years in prison without having a single trial?! Also, they haven't received any compensation in return.
and the nightmare continues. someone is being tortured right now.
Maybe they can dig into the FDNY Fireman’s Widow and children fund.
Sand people don't have rights
@@abigailandino6251 Why, since they have no connection with 9/11 whatsoever?
You can tell that the big, tough looking guy has been so dehumanized that he seems almost afraid to talk. This makes me so sad...
It's sad to see the most indimadating guy seem so intimidated.
Hundred beast Kaido he looks more traumatized than intimidated..
@@rosewater94 definitely traumatized
@Sean _very much out of context statement sean maybe think before typing
Such lovely and well spoken men. Much love their way, what inspirations they are.
Scumbags
barack obama
@@robertobiagiorandazzo1782 what’s a neo-nazi? I know what a nazi is but a neo nazi
@@brudamonas8208nazis usually refer to the original nazis during nazi-Germany, whereas neo-nazi refer to people who still believe in the nazi ideology today
Just because people are different than us and see things different than us doesn't make them the enemy.
He actually thinks Islam doesnt want all non-believers converted or dead.
He actually thinks all religious people strictly follow their shitty religion and christians are running around stoning people for planting crops the wrong way.
Its enough to accept and support. The actual lunatics will do the rest.
deezebee2 where?
My uncle was held there for nothing he was on a visit to Afghanistan, he came home in 2012 he isn’t talkative gets frustrated really quick .likes to be on his own and has a lot of problems mentally. He still has some torture scars.and people say America is the greatest country in the world god bless America right ?
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God bless America! Death to terrorists who hate it!
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God bless America! Death to terrorists who hate it!
You can move to Russia with your dictator like you're used to .
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Held for nothing, bullshit. He was caught at the front lines. He shouldn't have been arrested. He should've been forced to sign away the citizenship of the country he detests, and left in Afghanistan
May Allah make it easy for him and your family and grant him the highest level of Jannah
These guys seem pretty chill, someone how would be nice to just hang out with. This was a nice humanizing moment.
Keith Godown I think you mean he will hang, not hang out.
Get the first ticket to Birmingham. I bet you'll enjoy their company.
Its so sad for all these people to judge a faith based on blind groups who believe what they are being told is the only way to save islam. When in quaran yes it does say kill the infidels. But before that passage it says you Must get along with all your neighbors regardless of their own personal faith as only god can jusge. You must live peacefully and not impose Islam on non believers. Then it also says that" you must protect the teachings of islam. " remember that last quote. Then it says that if the lives of your family, friends, the very belief of islam and ones own life, is in danger to protect it no matter what. And if the infidels come to force you their beliefs and jeapordizing the islamic faith then you must kill the non believers. Its sad all my fellow god loving people who hate on someone else for believing in god in another way and the only major differences between them and say me is how they show their devotions to god and how i show mine is truly sad. Read the bible.YOURSELF make your own interpretations. Then read the quaran and do the same thing. You will realize both books are practically the same. And would be the exact same if it wasnt for king james. which is one of the reasons god sent Muhammad, to directly send the word of god again without a human who cant even remember seeing god before they were put in a body changing gods sons word. And to try once more to remind us that god is the only one to idolized. Which is why i dont understand the Christian faith.... jesus said the same thing only idolize god its one of the commandments. Yet the name of the faith itself contradicts that, qs well as idolizing jesus.... jesus did NOT want that to happen. He wanted his followere to spread his word instead they made a religion named after jesus, and some christians i hear believe the part , the father , the son, and the holy spirit. Are all the same which is why jesus is sometimes referred to as lord yet makes no senee since jesus's teachjngs was to believe in his father. That his father sent him. He didnt EVER say i had to send myself down here to save yall. No he said father sent me down with a message. Anyways can any christans or someone who understands christianity email me about it?. Also anyone with questions regarding to either the islamic or Christian beliefs email me at harishuskic94@gmail.com. i am agnostic and grew up in muslim house hold in a christian country so i dont truly support either i support the belief in that humans will choose to more good then evil more often then not and that i must restore our belief in each otber . I pray to god that i dont fail him and i know he believes in me or he wouldnt have chosen me as well ad believing in many others like me. And has given us spiritual warriors of god with abilities that many dont believe possible as once i didnt either. But trust me when i say that the soul is real, and that meditation may help allow you to unlock one of my favorite special abilities god gave me which is to astro project and go where ever i want and the abilitu to protect those i know , love, and cherish even while i sleep. Twice i have saved friends lives potentially one was about to be robbed. The other was about to commit suicide. Anyways any questions just email me at harishuskic94@gmail.com with subject as "faith"
Haris Huskic can you tell me why you left islam? The
Serial killers are nice in person. That's how they kill..
I’m a grown man who has been through a lot even a soldier in Iraq. Watching this and the documentary made me cry and thank twice very hard on my part in what happened and my conclusion is i was apart of the real terrorist group of that situation the u.s military
I respect the hell out of you for that. Don't ever let anyone tell you that's not bravery.
You guys were lied to as well. Thought you was doing something positive
@@daquanmcdonald7104 in the end your a tool pf politicians and mega corporations doing the dirty work
Hell you know the US gov hires militias because they can away with commiting war crimes?
US military aren't the terrorist, it's your Congress and White House. U guys were just following your orders.
Take it from someone who wanted to join Al Qaeda in his childhood, you aren't terrorists, your politicians are.
Because you acknowledged it, you are a TRUE SOLDIER; I tend to be apathetic or disdainful of members of the military. But members of the military who acknowledge what they were a part of are truly soldiers as it takes honesty, courage and a conscience to do so … and all those are a mark of a true soldier.
that's sad- imprisoning people without proof or trial.
Ahmad Qasim just breeds hate for the US when we torture innocent people
It's either that or kill them with drones. No good choices to an unfortunate reality.
Ahmad Qasim please do he's ignorant
Ahmad Qasim if 100 innocent people have to suffer to save my children’s lives then so be it.
Kevin Charles that’s so selfish what if when you’re children grow up they will be one of the innocent
The guy in black on the right looks like he lost it. But literally poor men, no on deserves this.
You’re a loony tune
@Kathleen Mccoy I’ve read your comment a few times and still haven’t got a clue what you’re trying to say
@@O.B.D89 me too😂😂😂😂
@@O.B.D89 retweet, Reading it reminds me of doing too much ketamine.
@Kathleen Mccoy what about trump do u know how many friends and family died from covid because his lack of responds. O yea blame China but who started a war with them? Trump right? Then all this immigrants killed by him also and now are Asians come on
this guys beard is glorious no homo
Gemini Jones No ⚣
Yep, as in glued on fashure.
Gemini Jones lol!
You should see my pubic hair. Looks like his beard exactly. I bet you like that more.
I been called a terrorist all my life
Stop bullying these guys for their oil. Leave them alone and the attacks will stop.
1939 wrong we used them to stop russia by arming several extremists
Tyrone Fountain you're a simpleton. America has spent more than a trillion dollars on the war
These guys aren’t even from the Middle East. Ruhal is from Sylhet, Bangladesh and the other two are from Pakistan
Thankyou been saying thia for ages Islam has been around for 1400 this terrorism thing only has been a year or 20 old.
@@radagast1184 forgot about dady and son bush ?
These guys are tough as nails having to go through all that, yet they have a better attitude and personality than me.
End extra-judicial prisons. Everyone deserves a fair trial.
Absolutely horrifying when you hear of the atrocities the CIA and American army have committed against inmates without a trial. There's still 30 or so people imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay, and while some absolutely should be there and are confirmed terrorists, there are some who are potentially wrongfully imprisoned like these people were, and yet are facing the same torture, beatings, and imprisonment for the past 2 decades.
No one deserves to be there. Torture is illegal under international law. And Guantanamo bay was stolen from Cuba and belongs to them.
That's fucked up being locked up at 18 without trial
these guys been torture and still have a smile. life is too short, just be happy
Imagine being tortured for no reasons and yet has the courage to forgive and move on.
@@joelhungerford8388 dude stfu they were innocent, people like you need a firing squad
The way the larger guy fidgeted when he recalled his number sent a chill down my spine. You can really see the pain in his eyes.
I admire these men's bravery to move on so positively after what they have gone through. We should not judge people by their race or religion. What our U.S. government allowed to happen in Guantanamo Bay prison was shameful.
That’s because they are guilty
clearly you can judge people on their religion...
If someone tells me he'll get 72 virgins if he blows himself up, that's all I need to know
@@VinnieG-No, you dont get 72 virgins in heaven, NOR are you permitted to kill yourself, for any reason whatsoever.
@@landolonnie8811like your father
@@VinnieG-and i can judge people by their lack of knowledge, lack of readinf comprehension, lack of wanting to find out the facts about rumours they may have heard and generally lack of believing flying rumours. Like you.
Stay strong always Allah subhanu wa tala grant you all much shifa sabr ikhlas and bharakha
Yo Vice could you fucking start disabling the comments already? It's disgusting what hatred is being spewed in them.
I know some people are juz sick.
Shut down comments because of different opinions and views? Typical liberal.
Eze Enwereuzor yet you would be happy to imprison people in Guantanamo for hate speech?
Sebastian Mustermann Oh yeah??? Well, I FUCKING LOVE YOU BRO.
Whats the matter? People not thinking like you should be jailed?
Very positive turn around. Good on them. Most people would go the other way after such a traumatizing experience.
I'd think my mind would be consumed by thoughts of revenge
@@VinnieG- I agree! Mine too probably!
What is society doing to fight this? Im an a Catholic from Irish decent born in England. What can i / we do to get justice for this.
The Irish always have stepped up for the oppressed, since they felt oppression themselves during the troubles and the British occupation. To be honest there’s nothing much we can do.
International solidarity. It is hard but we have to grow seeds in the minds of people and spread the word against torture or imperalist wars. Maybe then that spreading of knowledge might better the world in the next 100/200 years.
Hey, I thought closing down Gitmo was one of Nobel Man's top priorities!! Oh, right, I keep forgetting... no spine...
You Tried It! Obama dropped 26k bombs in one year
@@benkabbou02 Yeah, and he also freed around 200 of the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay during his time in the office. He also tried to improve health care for the underprivileged. Obama care was not great but it was an attempt at trying to do the right thing. He tried to do something about gun control too but again got blocked at every turn. Blame your stupid country, not the presidents because as the fellow above me stated, they are just puppets. Trump has not yet built the wall he promised he would.
@P oh gee, to be a starry-eyed socialist who thinks bad guys are only things you see in movies. I want your life, you know, the one that's not rooted in any reality...
Enjoy your smokes!
@@kazzityangel Imagine being so stupid that you still defend a war criminal like obama evn though he killed so many people in syria, libya, afghanistan, iraq, etc.
@@ariellekaplan707 Every US president of the 21st century is a war criminal.
One of the single most interesting places on earth. How many Guantanamo Bay type places are we unaware of? I know this is just the tip of the iceberg.
there are a few in china
@@inad8211 Or the uighurs STILL in Guantanamo ‼️‼️
what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
I wish I could take away their pain 😢😢😢
Am here thinking I would trade 3 American meals for 1 Pakistani meal. Their food is Awesome!!!!!
I can see how such a person could get radicalised. I would hold on to that anger forever
The American was right, in Pakistan we don't get 3 square meals a day. It's more like 6 meals. Literally all we do is cook, eat and watch tv dramas.
Yeah it's fun around here when it comes to meals in Pakistan.
@Rois50 he’s talking about the army jackass
@Rois50 Because that doesn't happen in US, right? Quit the projection
@Rois50 Men who sleep an average with seven women before marrying talking about wives and sisters 🤣🤣
@Gore Dimov u trollin
Damn she's fine
Lu I thought the same thing
Wtf is wrong with you two.
Yassine Elkarmoudi leave these kids
Why you being haram for?
She can do farty pops near ne anytime
You do not have the right to detain and torture people for information without charge, trial or false information.
Hasbunallah wa na3man wakkiel. May allah swt grand them with paradise and a good life😍
They look charismatic and polite😍
This is reality for millions daily.
It’s unbelievable to hear some of these things. So sad... but The younger guys are wicked cute though 💕
These 3 seem like nice guys, would love to know more about why they were taken to Guantanamo
peace and blessing be upon these men may allah grant them jannah for the hardships they have endured, and guidance and unity be among all of us, muslim, chritian, atheist etc.
I use to see a lot of this.. it always hurt me..!! I always wished I could do more.. but this is life..!! it's heaven and hell all at once, there's no escape.....
Strong men. May God bless them.
Comments section is stage 4 cancer as usual.
DragonHuman00 haha xD
Ch eetah yet they were imprisoned without any trial and no proof of being a terrorist.
this chick fine
Those guys speak well and seem agreeable, more so than the disgruntled minions opposed to the elections outcome.
Guy on the right is much bigger, bet when he was fighting it took more of them to restrain him, hence, he got worse torture.
I'm glad they have each other.
Still sweet and kind
I think these interviews should come with links , so the people can understand why they were arrested.
What an eye opener with his last statement!
4:45 this guy looks pretty distressed but doesn't seem to want to admit it.
لكم الله 😢💔
"When the world's most powerful man comes along and says, 'I will carry out a crime,' and the rest of the world won't even bat an eyelid, the world's gonna become even more unstable as a result."
And in just 6 years--it has.
British Pakistanis...great sense of humour.
i thought he said cockmeat sandwich but he said crabmeat sandwich lol
From that one movie lol
Here come all the Triggered Trump supporters and Alex Jones fanboys....
Or people who support the truth. Don't be blinded. To make an assumption about all right wingers would be equal to making the assumption all leftist are the same. Which we know is not true. Why would they be triggered in the first place? Political ideology shouldn't determine your level of humanity.
😂😂😂^^ got one
Im a Muslim and Alex always spoke against Guantanamo more than anyone
Trump is against the war in the middle east.
Dear brother, do not go to people's house and dissociate with them who purposefully place a newspaper on the table in front of you. You do not need negative people around you.
Prophet (s) said that make Dua for good companionship. May Allah facilitate them for you all Ameen.
This lady is shockingly beautiful
How weird it must be talking about torture and stuff while eating at the same time.
Poor guys SubhanAllah 💔 May Allah SWT reward them in Jannah
sure there are many people who deserve to be there. then theirs the people their cause they where fasely accused by fear mongers in a modern day witch hunt. many of these people are in the comments.
Horus Ra No one deserves to be there. Are people in Guantanamo that deserve to be in Prison? Yes, but they also deserve a trial and humane treatment and that includes not being tortured.
Sebastian Mustermann I bet that would change if your friend or sibling was killed by one
They’re all so handsome ❣️
You’re beautiful too
Ruhal ahmed is handsome n hot ...
@@TeaWithTay shut up
That’s the “JUSTICE” of America!! 😡😡😡
What is more interesting is under what circumstances were they captured and what had they been doing in the weeks just before. I know 2 of these men and I know why they were captured. They should keep there mouths shut and thank God for this chance to walk from prison.
This world needs a sentry, someone to regulate crimes against humanity
When you hear them talk it’s crazy they aren’t bad
awesome vice u da best js upload a lil lenghtier version even though it mi8 hurt u economically cz everybody wants to know more
Things like this don't happen at GTMO now, guards can loose their rank/position quite easily for getting physical with a detainee. Additionally, they are fed well and the food they receive is similar to what any U.S. Army soldier would receive if not better.
GTAStuntman400 i think i'll take the testominy of 3 former prisoners over random gta player on youtube
sir shalo My username is not indicative of my profession, but that's besides the point, I wish you could know my friend. The things they experienced were in 2002-2005 app. and it is 2017 now.
So its still okay to imprison them, just feed em better?
Jay S. I sure don't sir, without a charge anyway.
And? Justice still hasn't been served!
Seems like good lads. There might be some who are guilty in Gitmo but what if they are innocent? Same treatment.
Our prisons are overflowing with people.
Are they all guilty? I doubt it. But it's a money maker.
@@theresewalters1696 As tom Beasley said
You sell prisons like you sell cars, real estate, or hamburgers
strange how they say they were locked up in 2001 but the camp did first open in 2002
Why do the subtitles read “Guantanamo BAE”
Brave men I am sorry what happened to you.
When US government used the term humanity then I would like to think about Guntanamo Bay.
This so sad😢 I wish them the best in life
All of the ex detainees are from my city... that is crazy!
😭 you just won't understand this type of torture....
Such a brave souls!❤❤❤
Shafiq and the guy in gray sweater are very handsome 😘😘😘😘
Not sure a vest would be my first choice of fashion if everyone thought i was a terrorist
Thank God that the truth is seen. Oooow, what will happen to the wrongful. OUCH!
Im curious with the facts hidden and files classified can these individuals sue for wrongful imprisonment or is it a black hole?
guantanamo bay SHOULD be closed, i can't believe it is even a thing today
Why where these guys arrested ??
So why no one is blaming US for that crime
Like they say. Not caring about these people will allow you to focus on your family.
These are the best case scenarios of that center, most of the detainees after release have been sent to some far off country where they don’t even know the language and our under constant surveillance. I don’t get it how the American government is allowed to do this.
I can feel their pain in thier eyes
"Having failed his promises" sums up Obama's presidency pretty well
Us homemade Concentration Camp how you can hold anyone that long without trail or even charges!!
Call anyone a terrorist and it's fair game. Laws are out the window. No need to pretend to hide what we really believe in. Revenge.
Prejudice. Coming to you soon courtesy of US police state.
These dudes should be politicians or something I’m glad they r doing well and I’m like 95% sure they are telling the truth knowing my govt 🤪
Ok maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't care if they treated guilty terrorist like that but it's wrong to treat people who haven't been found guilty like that.
Only Muslim can go thru so much torture and still be making a joke out of it. Allah bless them x
And the Jewish?
﴿يا أَيُّهَا الَّذينَ آمَنوا مَن يَرتَدَّ مِنكُم عَن دينِهِ فَسَوفَ يَأتِي اللَّهُ بِقَومٍ يُحِبُّهُم وَيُحِبّونَهُ أَذِلَّةٍ عَلَى المُؤمِنينَ أَعِزَّةٍ عَلَى الكافِرينَ يُجاهِدونَ في سَبيلِ اللَّهِ وَلا يَخافونَ لَومَةَ لائِمٍ ذلِكَ فَضلُ اللَّهِ يُؤتيهِ مَن يَشاءُ وَاللَّهُ واسِعٌ عَليمٌ﴾ [المائدة: ٥٤]
(54) O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion - Allāh will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, strong against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allāh and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allāh; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allāh is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
- English Translation
course there from the UK lmao
Vasting they're *
Not until you put it in my mind ……… I believe this guy
Everyone deserves a fair trial and human rights until proven innocent terrorist deserve death by the worst of ways but classing someone as a terrorist without true evidence is wrong
I know I shouldn't say this, but 'lil mama is bad. I'd be willing to go to Guantanamo just to get sympathized from her. Dayum. But that guy that is real quiet has gone through some shit. He never spoke nor laughed until asked to. Yeah, he is definitely still in the mindset of being in Guantanamo.
How do we know they really didn’t contribute to any terrorist attacks
How do we know you didn't contribute to any terrorism.
If you are arrested without charge and torture. You are refused to provided with a lawyer.you are striped of your basis human right. only because of your religion and culture.
They were not given a trial and they were not given any chance to prove there innocence.
US just say that Guantanamo bay is not in American soil so we can't interference.
Yes there were terrorist in Guantanamo bay but there are also innocent people who didn't do anything
@@jhonnyrockers3571 because guantanamo bay is a land of limbo where the writ of habeas corpus is completely suspended. literally any person on american territory can be taken there, millions of people just dont have to care about the person.