Minelab Manticore WARNING! - Recovery Speed Settings
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2023
- A short video to warn you about the Recovery Speed settings on the Minelab Manticore metal detector. Mark was teaching a detecting class recently and came upon an issue where there could be some serious confusion about the recovery speed settings. Mark explains and shows some testing of targets to illustrate.
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Minelab Manticore a WARNING About Recovery Speed Settings!
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As a Manticore user, I appreciate these videos. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you as well for your comment and view! Much appreciated!
Thanks! The Manticore is a super detector if set up correctly, and your guidelines help us use our Manticores better and better. Please keep your tweaks coming.
Thank you for the kind words and the Manticore is a fantastic and very powerful machine when set up optimally. Thank you for the view and comment!
Excellent video Mark. Makes me wonder how many guys have walked over great targets because they think the higher the number, the better the machine will run. Kind of like big coil mentality, when in reality often, less is more.
Thank you. This is something I have found to be very true. With the 800 and Manticore.
Sincerely appreciate your view and taking the time to leave a kind comment!
Appreciate that valuable information Mark! Thank you for sharing!
Awesome and Thank you for checking out my videos!! 🤠
This video is spot on!😮
Much appreciated, hope it helps some. Thank you for the view and comment!
Nice video Mark. Thank you.
Thanks Ronald, always sincerely appreciate your views and comments!! 🙏🤠
Thanks for this video. It is really helpful!
You're very welcome!Thank you for checking it out and for leaving a comment!
I run the manticore on recovery speed 5 and have found a cut half hammered coin already at 8” down and lots of deep objects. I run at 20-23 sensitivity and have found the machine works superbly
Thank you for watching the video and for your tips and comment! For the typical type of metal detecting I do which is trying to find old home sites or old Gold Rush camps from the 1850s I may be in hilly terrain near creeks where there's hardly any signals in which case I cruise around with my recovery speed around 3 or 4 but as soon as I get into any kind of iron I crank it up to five or six and if I'm in really heavy machine gun iron I often hunt at 7 or even 8, however when you get up to seven or eight you have to really slow your swing speed down and just get very surgical about trying to hear repeatable signals hidden amongst all the iron grunts. This works really good for me I also run my sensitivity between 20 and 23 and I don't seem to have any complaints about death either even with the 8.5 inch by 5.5 in coil that I run I really love this machine and it is replaced my trusty CTX 3030 as my go-to machine as I walk out the door now. I'm happy that you took the time to leave this comment thanks again!
Interesting test, as a new user this is very helpful, thanks !
Thank you for the view and kindest comment!
Cool thanks for sharing!!!
Much appreciated, thank you for the view and comment!
Higher recovery speed would probably be useful for a recently lost ring on the surface or just under the surface of a trashy yard. Nice test thanks
Yes but more importantly it is better target seperation! Thank you for the view and comment!
You make it easy. Keep at it.
Good to hear this. That's what I am trying to do is demystify and give users confidence to learn the settings so they can have the best advantage. Thank you for the view and kind comment!
As a guy who has been doing this for 40 years, this was a good point made
Hah, you got more years than me at this hobby!! What machine do you use? What machine did you start out on? 😁 I had an old Compass my mom bought me, then I bought a brand new Whites 6000 DI pro with my own money in 1983, used that for a while then started using the Fisher 1265x, then 1266x then 1270X, then Garrett GTAX1250. Then in 1992 I saw a Minelab Sovereign (multi-tones!) here in the USA (a buddy had one chest mounted), I bought one in 93 and have been mostly Minelab since. Explorer, Etrac, CTX-3030, etc. Owned many other machines along the way (never bought a V3i though). Thank you kindly for the view and kindest comment!!
Top advice will try that thanks
Hope it helps! Thank you kindly for the view and comment!
Wow Thanks for that, i had no idea
You bet, thank you for your view and kind comment!
Thanks Mark good videos always God bless
Thank you as well Tony, sincerely appreciated!!
Very cool.. Thanks for sharing.. Peace
Thank you for your view and taking the time to leave a comment!
Great video thanks
Thank you as well for your view and comment!
Thanks for the tips gonna have to play with that recovery speed on some iffy targets..
Yes, please do, this machine is very impressive in testing in a coin garden or with a test area where different target seperation scenarios can be conducted. Lots to be learned. Thank yiu for the view and comment, much appreciated!
Good job
Thank you kindly!
This is great! I've been running at 6/7 due to watching other videos 🤦🏻♂️
Ah yes, maybe this is the case for many others. Glad I was able to experience this and make a video because of it. A sincere thanks for the view and comment!
Another great and helpfull video buddy.Ive been wondering if I should get the update on my Manticore and watching this video I don't think the stableizer really matters what do you think?
They made many huge improvements on the machine aside from Stabiliser. It's worth doing the update just to get the better performance, the Stabiliser is just another tool you can use if needed but it is useful and should only be used when digging nails is an issue. I highly recommend you do the update though. Thank yiu kindly for your view and comment/question!! 🙏🤠
thank you for your videos, much appreciated, and I'M wanting to know if you can help me with this issue.??My new minelab manticore IN The preset modes like all terrain general ,seems to automatically switch in the Discrimination mode. metal mode to custom mode, when I have selected all metal mode is this normal, Thank you.
Thank yiu for your kind words, view and question! So to go into all-metal mode you have to push the horseshoe button. So the machine should never go into all-metal while in a program like All-Terrain General until you click that horseshoe button. So just be careful and keep an eye on it to make sure you see your discrim pattern active (greyed out), if it's not, your detecting in all-metal mode. I hope this helps. 🤠
Gracias por tus consejos, lamentablemente mi inglés no es tan bueno como quisiera, te entiendo pero no al 100%. Revisé la fecha del video y de los comentarios para ver si podría estar resuelto este problema con alguna actualización, pero por lo que leí esto sigue igual.
Como consejo podrias activar los comentarios en otros idiomas para hacer un poco más facil entender 😅 (tal vez eso yo también lo estoy haciendo mal..)
Espero que en un mes más comprarme este equipo, llevo 3 años con el Equinox 800.
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Good video. Do you typically detect stabilizer at 4 and filter on?
Hi, thank you for the view. No I don't, I rarely ever use Stabiliser for the way I detect, however when I do I start with Stabiliser at 4 and filter off, only turning filter on for extreme target interpretation. Thanks again for the view and comment/question!
You feel recovery speed should not be set above three for coin hunting parks or for all general hunting with the Manticore..Thanks for all your help and videos...
First off I thank you for watching my video and for asking these really good questions! As far as recovery speed you really want to stay on top of that and if you're in a park and there is a lot of trash singles everywhere you're going to want your recovery speed High so that it can hear in between the trash where there could be coins or jewelry hiding. But on the other end of the scale if you're out in the park and there's very little trash at all I would run your recovery speed at 3. Does that make sense? So lots of trash 5-7 no trash at all 2-4. Thank you again!
Do you always have to have the filter on if you have the stabilizer on as you did at 4 or can you run stabilizer at 4 with the filter off..I own an Equinox 800 and thinking of purchasing the Manticore with the anniversary price reduction..
I don't find much use for having the filter on ever all it does is lower the volume on items that it thinks could be iron. They stabilize your circuit itself degrades the audio so between the two it will degrade and lower the volume. To answer your question no you do not need to have filter on while using stabilizer their independent of each other. Thank you again for the view and for your comment/question!
What were you ferrous limits on this test??
Good morning, i just got my unit a week ago and my coil will detect on the outside edges only, nothing in center of the coil. Is this normal? tia
Hello, no this is not normal. The coil should detect metal across the center of the bottom of the coil. After double-checking all your connections you should contact Minelab support or your dealer to find a solution. Hope they can sort this out for you ASAP!! Thank you for the view and comment/question!
So, I only hunt at the beach, both wet/dry sand and out in the water. I had a subscriber tell me to set my machine to beach deep recovery 5. I found four pieces of gold right off the bat but the tone is so strange to me (I was previously using the 800 and 900) also the machine was so chattery once I got near wet sand or out into the water. Can you suggest some tweaks for the tone and am I losing anything by switching to water when in wet sand or out in the water? Thank you.
I've been using Manticore strictly at the salt beaches in and out of the water since January. First when you arrive at the beach hold the coil at least 2 feet off the ground and HOLD DOWN the noise cancel button until it settles on a single channel. Then try Beach Low Conductors program for both dry and wet sand. In my white powdery non-mineralized dry sand, I manually set the ground balance to zero and leave it there. In wet and damp sand, you must ground balance by holding the button down and pumping the coil up and down due to the higher conductive properties of the wet sand. I don't use tracking. In the water, switch to Surf and Seawater program and ground balance again once you are in at least two feet of water. I use recovery speed of 3 all day. If you are still chatty, gotta turn down your sensitivity until it clears up. I run around 21 in wet and dry sand and around 18 sensitivity in water. Try learning an entire new tone as I did with Prospecting Audio Theme....it's great and simple.
Thank you for the view and great questions! I would not run recovery speed at 5 probably ever on any beach, in fact I would try to keep it as low as possible (3 or less). As far as tones are you in 1 Region All Tones? I would run 2 region all tones with the break at 48 so I could get above the pull tabs. I would also not use depth audio or enhanced, I would use Normal Audio with Simple theme so that I didn't have any loss of volume on depth as the beach is noisy enough that I wouldn't want to hear depth and take a chance on missing a deep target. The other reply below is fantastic too! Best of luck! 🤠
@@fooballyou Thank you for the great tips. We don’t have powdery sand, I’m guessing you are in Florida. We also don’t have much in the way of mineralization here in Okinawa. I got my butt kicked the last time i was in california with so much black sand. I was also using the CZ21 with all of it’s legacy technology so that’s my fault. I rarely run my sensitivity above 18 in wet or dry sand because I hunt the same five beaches weekly and i just don’t want to dig that deep anymore. Sometimes I will run the sensitivity up if i hear a whisper of a target and I just want to make sure that I am ok with passing it by, but I put it right back down to 18. Now as for the recovery speed, I have never run is below 5 so I hope I am in for some great targets. I have only been detecting since Christmas of 2019 but I pretty much go every day for at least 5 hours a day. I am so hooked!
Ha! You are hooked! I go once or twice a week for four hours. Yes, I'm in the Tampa Bay area. My previous detector was a CZ-21. This Manticore is letting me know what I've been missing all these years with target ID's and 2D graph and so customizable. I love this machine. Have fun, good luck, and happy hunting!@@MermaidTreasureHunter
I have to run my recovery at 5 or 6 to keep the machine quiet in the wet and the water. With a sens of 21 in the wet sand and 18 ish in the water. If I drop the recovery the Mach gets to chatty unless I drop the sens way down. Now I will say I am sending my coil and machine in because the engineers at Minelab think I may have a over sensitive coil. But with my settings I am crushing it! If you can find a quarter at 18” then you would think the machine is running fine! Don’t know so I am sending it in!
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Thank you for the view and kind comment!!
I have the 900.. would you get the Manticore? I just cant justify to extra expense. Would like more opinions
I have a really good video on my channel here about choosing between the 900 and Manticore. I have both and I really like the 900 but I absolutely love the Manticore, it's the tones, the processor speed, the unmasking and so much more. Definitely worth the difference in price IF you can afford it! Thank you for your view and comment!
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Thank you very much for watching the video and for your comment!
It what happens if you turn the sens up and run that same test?
Big difference no doubt, not really what the gist of the video is, literally just illustrating the difference Recovery Speed has on depth (at all settings). Thank you for the view and comment/question. Lmk if you seriously want me to check it again at the Sensitivity up.
Brass que maquina te gusta mas manticore o xpdeus2
The XP Deus II is a fantastic all-around detector that is great at everything. Maybe a good second machine would be a specialty machine like a gold detector or a PI machine. Or the new XP Extreme. Thanks for the view and comment/question!
So would you recommend 3 and not no higher that 4 for recovery speed? I mean let’s face it , it seems like there is iron in most every site lol… thankyou in advance..
Hi, thank you for the question. No I would recommend three or four if you were in an area let's say in a park where there's virtually no trash and no iron and it's a very quiet area of grass and you're trying to hear deep coins or jewelry with very few junk targets. Because this tilts the processor to have a priority on depth. When you get up into five, six, seven and eight... Your in the iron with eight being a full tilt of the processor to target separation speed rather than depth. Thank you for the view and for your comment/ question!
So what number do you usually settle with now mate , or do you go 0 ? 😊👊🏼🐑
When I'm just cruising around and I don't have a lot of targets all together I try to get maximum depth and I run around three or four however if I get into heavy iron I'll go as high as six. Thank you for the view and for your great question and your comment!
Yeah but you have an open screen!?!? Everything will sound off as a good target even the iron…. Would get a banging signal every swing
Hah!! Someone's paying attention!! Great observation, guess I got a little air headed there for a minute and not realizing / remembering my screen was open while showing off the low recovery speed settings. I will have to do a follow up video to test properly. Much appreciated. 😉
People think that they gotta swing like a wild man
This is true, not always a good technique! Thank yiu for the view and comment!
You want to sell that coil,lol
Hah I unfortunately can't as it's a test coil but they are finally shippping to dealers now. Thank you for the view and comment!
Sorry, nothing new, higher recoveey speed = less depth
Yes I agree to some of the more experienced users, this is nothing new. It's an interesting thing being a content creator in this Niche on UA-cam as about 90% of my viewers are amateurs and very new to this Hobby. The other 10% are intermediate to Advanced and some of my content can be rudimentary to them. Thank you for watching and for your comment! Happy holidays
Yes thank you ! Lol well what in the hell is the recovery speed for?
In a nut shell, it's a very important and powerful setting that tilts the processor to give priority to either target seperation at the cost of depth or tilt the processor to max depth with minimal seperation. Thank you for the view and comment!
I find too lower recovery is to slow for the way I like to swing I go as low as 3 to a max of 7. Can counter recovery by changing frequency balancing it out so high frequency low recovery and vise versa . Depth ain’t always best , over here in the uk I found 6-700 year old hammered coins 4 inch on farmland pasture which was full of molten metal , take care 🧑🦯🙏
Great point about the depth not being important in current or previously plowed fields!! I know you guys spend lots of time in fields. Here depth is not really an issue either in the foothills and valleys but up in the forrest canopies everything is crazy deep under many decades of duff. Interesting concept of using a higher frequency to off set recovery speed, I'll have to test that myself! Thanks for checking out the video and for the advice/comment!