@@weezerstan7788 Orpheus F, Kaguya, Ariadne, Athena, Ishtar, Maria, Rangda, Allilat, Mother Harlot, and every other persona of Priestess, Lovers, or Empress Arcana
Ann and Chie go into a fight.....everyone just nopes the hell out as they both randomly nuke harder than the main character does on occasion one does big physical numbers and the other is just explosions stacked on with concentrate lol.
Throughout the 3 separate playthroughs i've done thoughout this game, It just dawned on me after watching this vid....none of the girls have a showtime with each other🧐🧐🧐
I've seen some pretty wacky stuff done with P5 modding. Is it feasible to replace Joker with Makoto just for this one specific fight? Seems like someone could pull that off.
@@lunatm4697 this. By the time you get colossal damage type attacks All-Outs are situational for groups and arguably can do less damage than said attacks.
@@lunatm4697 yeah Baton Pass is given up if an all out attack is used after downing but in this case, any attack would be right, since the one single enemy is down? A colossal attack has the potential to do more damage especially off a baton pass.
This is a year late but oh well- This is an all girls fight, Joker is a dude and isn’t removable. He’s also involved in the All-Out Attack so that breaks the rules of the challenge/video/uhh-
hi back , now I've become way more stronger in the game and know when I have to all out and when I have not to all out but , thanks for the explication @@introvertedthing
@@thedefencegamer7363 skill cards and the gallows, used one of the treasure demons (I think hope diamond) which had a couple passives I needed and skill cards for other skills
This is basically my endgame team I’m just got mikoto (hate her but she’s useful until Sumire and especially my favorite girl Haru join me) and my four member is Mona who’s still saving me for hard battles.
Why Makoto granted her third tiers unique skill checkmate is a bit underwhelming but her stats are pretty well rounded and her trait helps setup technical damage with Yusuke, Ann and Ryuji pretty easily
My last commment didnt age well i finally played p4g and chie is overrated shes basically a worse version of Yoshitsune most of the game. Ann on the otherhand not only is she already in a league of her own in terms of damage shes also able to inflict burn for makoto to abuse xD. Yukiko would be more busted in p5 rules tho because she not only had a unique fire skill she also has way better healing skills than ann and has access to fire break.
This video represents why I don't like using Haru in any team... She only has one way of being useful and it's Life Wall spam. No offense to you of course, this challenge is hard as balls and you needed to do everything in your power to make it through even using Futaba's Ultimate support but its so annoying that you see Lavenza use Tetra/Makara break and the optimal play with Haru is to use Life Wall again. Still nice job for making it through this challenge
Idk dude one shot kill has a 40% crit (60% with apt pupil due to max crit cap) and that rage tech damage because of Psy magic and she gets the amps and boosts for both she has another thing that she’s customizable with being able to have amirita shower and reflects. I think shes is good and isn’t limited to one thing or as frail as other gals
@@helpihavebats6392 a jack of all trades, master of none. That's the problem. Yes she can do the whole crit gimmick but it's just that, a gimmick. By the time you get one shot kill she still doesn't have her gun amp so it just does ok damage. If you give her the Apt Pupil accessory she can be decent by criting a lot of things but that isn't working on a lot of bosses and towards the end game half the things you face have Gun resistances/immunities or High Counter. Not to mention that you lose a good amount of HP by trying that and leaves you quite open since Haru isn't exactly Tanky, yes she is tankier than Morgana, Sumire and Ann but that's it, not mention whay happens when opponents reflect that. Her Psy skills are also not that impressive because half the things in this game are immune to Mental Status conditions for her to get technicals, and it just does decent damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Then she has, Tetrakarn/Makarakarn and Amirita shower... which you already have by that point in terms of items... oh and a GL that is just absolutely useless. The Devs knew how useless she is compare to the others bar Morgana (although he gets Salvation/Samercarm so he is still usable) so they decided to give her Life Wall to make her somwhat viable...
@@loadingname5499 lmao Haru got the shit end of the stick in P5. Mid moveset, mid character arc (not to mention formally introduced more than halfway into the game) and she rarely gets any notable lines after her arc/Okumura arc. Harsh but true.
@@95v37 that's what happens when a character such as Haru-who appears WAY late in the game, her relevancy to the plot is pretty much nonexistent (aka unneeded). The plot can progress without Haru-who and it still won't change a damn thing. By the time she joins your party, you would've had invested every member on your team without even needing her.
@Diabhal216 she’s really good in her own arc for first time players since you don’t have much access to psy abilities at that moment. I messed up during the Okumura calling card and didn’t get any psy personas for Joker so I relied heavily on Haru for the more annoying part of the Oku boss battle.
So many things wrong with this fight compared to the bois (note; the bois weren't all that better either)... One of them being, you didn't exploit, let alone take advantage of your turn orders by effectively prioritizing what skills your characters should use to better give your team an advantage. Another is the questionable skills you've given to the girls compared to the bois, such as Anne. Was there literally ANY point in giving Anne Diamond Dust of ALL skills...? And where are all of Anne's support skills, such as Diarahan? Or Lullaby/Tentarafoo? Or Dekaja to counter Lavenza's Heat Riser (if she ever uses it beyond her first two phases)? You should've given Debilitate to someone else who can make use of it more compared to Anne...
I gave Ann diamond dust for the first phase and as for debilitate that was so I could just duo it with her, and as for prioritizing, I didn’t really care because I played the game how I played it, and I still ended up winning, sure I would’ve been a bit more successful but like I said at the very beginning I only had a vague plan, most of it was improvising
@@Strifie Don't listen to this guy. He started a massive argument on another channel, which you can see by scrolling through the comment section on this video: ua-cam.com/video/XHYV9HIrAeo/v-deo.html You played well and the fight was enjoyable!
Ann's support skills are pretty redundant by the end of the game. Sleep Vials are plentiful and can be farmed from Jose, so there isn't a point in running Lullaby. Same thing with Beads and Diarahan. Ann here is running Debilitate which is just better than Dekaja since it can remove buffs and also lower Lavenza's stats when she's at neutral. Ann is super busted and she doesn't even need all 8 of her skill slots. The only skill she's really "missing" would be Fire Break for the final phase, but Fire Break kinda sucks the rest of the game so I get why it wouldn't occur to him to run it
@@hunterbrown7692 I don't know any player who'd waste time mindlessly grinding for Sleep Vials, only to waste them in a single (or every) battle when you have a character that can consistently use a skill that does the exact same thing throughout is beyond me. 🙄 And Diarahan is backup healing when you don't want to waste sp casting a heal for an ENTIRE party, especially when only ONE member needs it when their low on hp. 😒 Plus, the skill serves as a good filler slot so that you don't have to waste a turn, let alone wait for another character with a heal to do it when it's not their turn. And again, the skill saves the point of mindlessly wasting items. 😒 Like... what's even the difference? Your character is STILL wasting a turn to heal another character, regardless. 🙄 Again, the function, and utility of the skill is still better to have than not having it at all. Debilitate is understandable. But rather than wasting the skill on an enemy that already has multiple buff stacks from say, Heat Riser, to which you have to CONSTANTLY cast it on a single enemy to remove EVERY frickin' STACK is just absolutely counterproductive compared to Dekaja, where the latter would just simply reset all buffed stats back to normal by simply removing ALL of it at once. Which is quite effective, considering 1.) You don't have to waste multiple turns on a character spamming that dumb sh*t, and 2.) It leaves Anne, and other characters with other priorities for potential setups much faster. Fire Break still has its uses. How often are you gonna land Blazing Hell on an enemy who has resistance, or immunity to fire damage lol? It'd be a complete waste. Anne would be wasting her turn stuck with skills that are situational if she's pitied against an enemy she can't even damage. 🙄
![Joker and Best Girl vs. Lavenza [Merciless - Perfect Showtime End]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8saaPOJSoXQ/mqdefault.jpg)
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Could’ve just had Joker use only female Personas, but this works too
I didn’t even think of that, my brain isn’t built right and this video kinda proves it
wait who are some good female personas other than cybele?
@@weezerstan7788 Orpheus F, Kaguya, Ariadne, Athena, Ishtar, Maria, Rangda, Allilat, Mother Harlot, and every other persona of Priestess, Lovers, or Empress Arcana
Alice also works
Or he could've downloaded a female Joker mod
joker sumire and haru: It's christmas time!
Ann: it's christmas time.... in australia!
The boy and the girls against lavenza. Now, its the Cat against Lavenza.
The Cat and Spiky Shoulder Pads against Lavenza.
and Mako-chan.
The black clothed characters? (Might wanna reuse goro-chan)
If you taking theme teams, how bout Shujin only team?
That crosses out Fox and Crow tho...
"I will not lose!" *kills herself with Ice Age*
technically she didn't lost, she suicided
...
16:27
Yusuke: Then do you prefer i dress as a women?
It looks like Lavenza had massive brain farts with how many times she kept using physical attacks on Joker KNOWING it will get reflected.
2 minutes in and the friend being indecisive of wanting to play madden or not is the most entertaining thing so far
Watching this video at 0.25x speed makes me cackle
8:31 “My humongous brain didn’t realize I only had 1 of the item” 😂😂
I love how Ann's christmas outfit is so... sexy compared to the others lol
Impressive stuff, love the Christmassy outfits too, perfect for this time of year. :)
Congrats!
I never really used life wall until this fight and realised how good it was
It’s crazy how good it is. It’s just so much MP 😭
@@itz_galactic10145 game runs plus third semester my Haru’s SP pool at lv. 70 is at 999 plus you can give her spell master👍🏾
Ann and Chie go into a fight.....everyone just nopes the hell out as they both randomly nuke harder than the main character does on occasion one does big physical numbers and the other is just explosions stacked on with concentrate lol.
This Song really is amazing. I remember i beat her on Merciless. Pain of my exsistence. But i did it!
16:10 talk about luck
I see joker blends in really well.
Throughout the 3 separate playthroughs i've done thoughout this game, It just dawned on me after watching this vid....none of the girls have a showtime with each other🧐🧐🧐
Makoto and Haru do, I was counting on it but it never showed up
@@Strifie oh riiiiiight I forgot they did.....just goes to show that I need to play the game again....for a refresher
@@lunatm4697 absolutely, I support that
I've seen some pretty wacky stuff done with P5 modding. Is it feasible to replace Joker with Makoto just for this one specific fight? Seems like someone could pull that off.
Joker isn’t removable as far as I know
@@Strifie joker is not removable because hes the only way you can get a game over
My fluffy deadly queen ❤
I love her so much
@@M4tthh she deserves
Queen isn’t in this video
Joker is just one of the girls tbh
i think puff wants to play "madden nfl 2023" but his pc is to weak to handle it
Yusuke: Do you prefer that I dress as a woman?
Amazing video :D
I'm curious as to why you don't All-Out Attack when Lavenza is knocked down
Wastes a turn plus it's better to just use the one more to baton pass or setup
@@lunatm4697 this. By the time you get colossal damage type attacks All-Outs are situational for groups and arguably can do less damage than said attacks.
@@95v37 also wouldn't it kill the run since Joker is a part of said All Out Attack?
@@lunatm4697 yeah Baton Pass is given up if an all out attack is used after downing but in this case, any attack would be right, since the one single enemy is down? A colossal attack has the potential to do more damage especially off a baton pass.
Joker may as well be counted as a female cause of the wild card. Idk, but it just feels like he should fit in any group
Smh best girl Ryuji isn't even in the team
So True, honestly I thought about it but Ryuji too overpowered, had to make it difficult
I love you Noir
@@M4tthh a harsh truth for you to comprehend I imagine...
fivehead
@@WiiMoteGodYT you're using a picture of a man with a square head 💀
@@loadingname5499 I don't care if you don't like her, She is The best for me and nobody is going to change that
@@M4tthh I mean yeah, I wasn't planning to. Each one has different opinions that's all
i feel stupid can someone explain why sumire has Phanta Rei, ann has diamond dust and haru has thunder reign
They’re the equipment I used that gave them the skills
how are your characters so strong 😭
The constant jazz clubs
Sorry I'm new in the game and I don't understand why he don't all out attack when he have the opportunity.
This is a year late but oh well-
This is an all girls fight, Joker is a dude and isn’t removable. He’s also involved in the All-Out Attack so that breaks the rules of the challenge/video/uhh-
hi back , now I've become way more stronger in the game and know when I have to all out and when I have not to all out but , thanks for the explication
@@introvertedthing
how the hell did you get a persona with only passives? (skill cards or the gallows could answer it but gallows and item cards take up too much time)
@@thedefencegamer7363 skill cards and the gallows, used one of the treasure demons (I think hope diamond) which had a couple passives I needed and skill cards for other skills
How did u make the character icons on color
Edit nevermind
YEAHHHHHHHHHH
Should've made Joker a feminist and have him only use support skills
This is basically my endgame team I’m just got mikoto (hate her but she’s useful until Sumire and especially my favorite girl Haru join me) and my four member is Mona who’s still saving me for hard battles.
Why Makoto granted her third tiers unique skill checkmate is a bit underwhelming but her stats are pretty well rounded and her trait helps setup technical damage with Yusuke, Ann and Ryuji pretty easily
Joker is a girl confirmed 😳?
No.
How do you get 999 on party members other then joker?
Jazz club and ng+
Wdym when you say making Joker the 2nd Navi?
Like have him heal and buff
My last commment didnt age well i finally played p4g and chie is overrated shes basically a worse version of Yoshitsune most of the game. Ann on the otherhand not only is she already in a league of her own in terms of damage shes also able to inflict burn for makoto to abuse xD. Yukiko would be more busted in p5 rules tho because she not only had a unique fire skill she also has way better healing skills than ann and has access to fire break.
This video represents why I don't like using Haru in any team... She only has one way of being useful and it's Life Wall spam. No offense to you of course, this challenge is hard as balls and you needed to do everything in your power to make it through even using Futaba's Ultimate support but its so annoying that you see Lavenza use Tetra/Makara break and the optimal play with Haru is to use Life Wall again.
Still nice job for making it through this challenge
Idk dude one shot kill has a 40% crit (60% with apt pupil due to max crit cap) and that rage tech damage because of Psy magic and she gets the amps and boosts for both she has another thing that she’s customizable with being able to have amirita shower and reflects. I think shes is good and isn’t limited to one thing or as frail as other gals
@@helpihavebats6392 a jack of all trades, master of none. That's the problem.
Yes she can do the whole crit gimmick but it's just that, a gimmick. By the time you get one shot kill she still doesn't have her gun amp so it just does ok damage. If you give her the Apt Pupil accessory she can be decent by criting a lot of things but that isn't working on a lot of bosses and towards the end game half the things you face have Gun resistances/immunities or High Counter. Not to mention that you lose a good amount of HP by trying that and leaves you quite open since Haru isn't exactly Tanky, yes she is tankier than Morgana, Sumire and Ann but that's it, not mention whay happens when opponents reflect that.
Her Psy skills are also not that impressive because half the things in this game are immune to Mental Status conditions for her to get technicals, and it just does decent damage to anything that doesn't resist it.
Then she has, Tetrakarn/Makarakarn and Amirita shower... which you already have by that point in terms of items... oh and a GL that is just absolutely useless.
The Devs knew how useless she is compare to the others bar Morgana (although he gets Salvation/Samercarm so he is still usable) so they decided to give her Life Wall to make her somwhat viable...
@@loadingname5499 lmao Haru got the shit end of the stick in P5. Mid moveset, mid character arc (not to mention formally introduced more than halfway into the game) and she rarely gets any notable lines after her arc/Okumura arc. Harsh but true.
@@95v37 that's what happens when a character such as Haru-who appears WAY late in the game, her relevancy to the plot is pretty much nonexistent (aka unneeded). The plot can progress without Haru-who and it still won't change a damn thing. By the time she joins your party, you would've had invested every member on your team without even needing her.
@Diabhal216 she’s really good in her own arc for first time players since you don’t have much access to psy abilities at that moment. I messed up during the Okumura calling card and didn’t get any psy personas for Joker so I relied heavily on Haru for the more annoying part of the Oku boss battle.
How the fck are ur characters so strong
NG+ an unbelievable amount of times to max their stats via Jazz Club.
@@hyperstargaming6150 Can you likely max party stats in a single NG+ run? I didn’t finish all my confidants, maybe only maxed 4 or 5.
@@95v37 oh hell no, you can max maybe one party member a playthrough if you completely ignore nighttime confidants after Akechi.
so glad joker came out as trans
real
So many things wrong with this fight compared to the bois (note; the bois weren't all that better either)... One of them being, you didn't exploit, let alone take advantage of your turn orders by effectively prioritizing what skills your characters should use to better give your team an advantage. Another is the questionable skills you've given to the girls compared to the bois, such as Anne. Was there literally ANY point in giving Anne Diamond Dust of ALL skills...? And where are all of Anne's support skills, such as Diarahan? Or Lullaby/Tentarafoo? Or Dekaja to counter Lavenza's Heat Riser (if she ever uses it beyond her first two phases)? You should've given Debilitate to someone else who can make use of it more compared to Anne...
I gave Ann diamond dust for the first phase and as for debilitate that was so I could just duo it with her, and as for prioritizing, I didn’t really care because I played the game how I played it, and I still ended up winning, sure I would’ve been a bit more successful but like I said at the very beginning I only had a vague plan, most of it was improvising
Nah he played the fight pretty well, the only thing he did wrong was not knowing how to handle Atavaka that pretty much blocked all of his big attacks
@@Strifie Don't listen to this guy. He started a massive argument on another channel, which you can see by scrolling through the comment section on this video: ua-cam.com/video/XHYV9HIrAeo/v-deo.html
You played well and the fight was enjoyable!
Ann's support skills are pretty redundant by the end of the game. Sleep Vials are plentiful and can be farmed from Jose, so there isn't a point in running Lullaby. Same thing with Beads and Diarahan. Ann here is running Debilitate which is just better than Dekaja since it can remove buffs and also lower Lavenza's stats when she's at neutral.
Ann is super busted and she doesn't even need all 8 of her skill slots. The only skill she's really "missing" would be Fire Break for the final phase, but Fire Break kinda sucks the rest of the game so I get why it wouldn't occur to him to run it
@@hunterbrown7692 I don't know any player who'd waste time mindlessly grinding for Sleep Vials, only to waste them in a single (or every) battle when you have a character that can consistently use a skill that does the exact same thing throughout is beyond me. 🙄
And Diarahan is backup healing when you don't want to waste sp casting a heal for an ENTIRE party, especially when only ONE member needs it when their low on hp. 😒 Plus, the skill serves as a good filler slot so that you don't have to waste a turn, let alone wait for another character with a heal to do it when it's not their turn. And again, the skill saves the point of mindlessly wasting items. 😒 Like... what's even the difference? Your character is STILL wasting a turn to heal another character, regardless. 🙄 Again, the function, and utility of the skill is still better to have than not having it at all.
Debilitate is understandable. But rather than wasting the skill on an enemy that already has multiple buff stacks from say, Heat Riser, to which you have to CONSTANTLY cast it on a single enemy to remove EVERY frickin' STACK is just absolutely counterproductive compared to Dekaja, where the latter would just simply reset all buffed stats back to normal by simply removing ALL of it at once. Which is quite effective, considering 1.) You don't have to waste multiple turns on a character spamming that dumb sh*t, and 2.) It leaves Anne, and other characters with other priorities for potential setups much faster.
Fire Break still has its uses. How often are you gonna land Blazing Hell on an enemy who has resistance, or immunity to fire damage lol? It'd be a complete waste. Anne would be wasting her turn stuck with skills that are situational if she's pitied against an enemy she can't even damage. 🙄