Great video. I've got a question about toothpicks. You may have answered this in the past but did the toothpick evolve from the fish knife or the other way around.
Sort of both. The modern toothpick has a very long history. You can trace its origins to a few different European knives, but they all seem to be related to a variety of Spanish knives. (Navaja de Albacete) with a powderhorn frame. These knives were commonly used by fisherman and dock workers, as well as hunters. The knives evolved in to fighting knives but also kept there original purposes. When the came to America, they retained the mythos of fighting knives as well as the practicality of being a small game knife and fishing knife. The knives were known as powderhorn hunting knives and would pick up the name Toothpick in the 1920s or 1930s. (Most likely a name given to the pattern by Case. Camillus and many others wwer calling their Toothpick a SwitchBack. In any case, around the 1920s, manufacturers started cutting scalers in the spine of single blade switchbacks and calling them Fish knives. This might have happened to improve the reputation of the knife. Later a secondary fish scaler blade was added. So technically the Toothpick has always been a fish knife, or more accurately a small game knife or folding bird and trout knife. But it’s reputation as fighting knife over clouded it’s intended purpose. And it the early 20th century, companies made changes to the knife to emphasize its intended roll.
Thank you for your answer to Denis Kozlowski. His question was mine aswell. I like the blades that evolves like animals to fulfill the needs of common people: something to deal with hard bread, cheese and meat dry as a bone for lunch beside the plough. Many peasants were fishermen, hunters and farmers out of necessity. And the toothpick is the jack of all these trades like the lagiole in france and the navaja cabritera in spain!
The oldest would be my pick, as for the blade length I wouldn't chance carrying in public, Mr Plod would definitely say it was illegal, looking forward to seeing the next one.
Another enjoyable video. I love the Case Sawcut jigging. I wish it was available more commonly. The Pocket Worn is my favorite but the Sawcut comes in a close second.
I have a single Case Medium Toothpick in Burnt Cream Bone with barn board jigging, and I hope to add another to the collection soon. I seem to get good knives from Case, so sticking with them.
Gorgeous knife. Seems to me that the past few Case knives I’ve gotten have seem to upped in quality control and finish. If they make one in CV or yellow I’d have no choice but to grab one. Take care
Nice collection of Case toothpicks! I wonder if we could petition Case to have the large toothpick be the next vault release? I really like the fish knife and lure combo, I thought it was really neat! Thanks Tobias!
I am almost certain that the last few Case Large Toothpicks were produced by either Queen, or Blue Ridge. I think this is why they have said they will never be produced again. I know that Case made both a 5 inch and a 5 1/2 inch in the past. But I think the tooling was sold or it just wore out.
The business of sawcut finishing bone is pretty interesting, I reckon. Case seems to have gone back to the circular blade after a flirtation with the bandsaw. It's probably the most cost effective way to get a nicely textured, tactile surface, but to my mind the most recent knife looks a little too much like Schrade Delrin and I hope Case don't settle on that way of doing it. The most fascinating variation I've seen is on the steel bolstered Queen knives which have convex bone with circular saw marks of even depth ... whoa. I can think of a few ways to do that, but to do it safely is a non-trivial jig making proposition. So I guess they do it the scary way. 🙂
Wow! That first toothpick has the perfect cigar lounge look! I expected the review to be glowing 😂 as it’s one of the best Case toothpicks I believe I’ve ever seen. The sawcut looks perfect, way better imho than the straight up and down one. The smooth bone next to each bolster is reminiscent of classic Old Timers yet classier. Of course everyone has their own tastes, I’m sure many would disagree with my opinion. I do agree they should have left off the shield but it still looks good! Case lately seems to have made a habit of putting goofy looking shields on knives that I was otherwise ready to buy if not for that. Like a gaudy bright red eyesore oval on a gorgeous blue jigged bone for instance. But yours here has a perfectly matched shield if there’s got to be one. All the knives were interesting. Great video I’m watching a year later, algorithm served it up 👍
Case Saw cut Jig bone is jigging so it is just made to look like Saw cut. Case polishes the crap out it and makes the idea of the saw cut bone not work as meant to work. It just looks like saw cut bone but isn’t. It doesn’t add a better grip to the knife. However, Case Barn Board Jig Bone does. Because the bone jigging is cut deeper and polished the same direction of the jigging. It also looks shiny and works too. If saw cut is smooth as a Babies Butt, it doesn’t do a thing to add better grip just looks good.🤣😂
I have to say, I like the older sawcut jigging on my Rough Riders to Case. It is one area where Rough Ryder does it better than Case. I do feel that Case is using a better quality bone but their traditional method of sawcut jigging is lacking. I agree also with the Case Barnboard jigging. It is definitely the superior option to Case sawcut.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias The idea of saw cut bone is to add grip, but today people buy pants with holes in them and pay more. Just as they buy pocket warn bone that is supposed to look like an old knife. The funniest of all is, selling hats that have worn out brims and sell them for more. I just made mine own working wearing one until it looked like one. People thought it looked cool and it became a fashion statement. Wearing worn out clothes, hats and buying knives made look old cracks me up.🤣😅😂
Nice collection Tobias. I find that medium toothpicks are more pocket friendly than the larger ones so after carrying a few large ones for some time I dropped them in favor of medium sized. I wish Case had the selection Frost does. lol
I'm still toting my Large Rough Ryder. I might try this one for size for a while. Frost does make quite a few medium toothpicks as well as small-medium 3 1/2 inch toothpicks. I recently picked one of the 3 1/2 inchers up. I'll need to talk about it.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Hey buddy, I have a NIB 3.5" Toothpick that I would like to send to you. It's from 2010 made by CRKT in their Classic Pocket Knives series which had 3" & 3.5" Toothpicks, small and regular Trappers, a Congress, a Whittler, and a Stockman (the last three are 3.5"). I have your info just let me know if you could use it and I'll send it off.
The Amber Bone Sawcut Jig medium Toothpick(really long name) is a very fine quality knife. The fact that both sides don't have the same angle of the sawcut pattern may be due to human error and only a few have that, or they didn't care and slipped it through QC. But that's the only minor issue on this knife. Did you experience difference in quality/fit and finish or otherwise since Zippo took over Case? The Fishknife is very awesome btw, very nice detail they put on a hooksharpener instead of a shield and the colour is absolutely fabulous. Thank you for a great video Tobias.
That is hard to say. Zippo has owned Case for almost 30 years. The few Case knives I own from the pre-Zippo days were purchased used. As best I can tell, Case intentionally doesn't match the sawcut covers. I've yet to get or see one that has matched sawcut covers. One of mine is actually a Tony Bose knife, and those are made to a higher QC standard yet the sawcut doesn't match. I think the point the illusion they are shooting for is that the pieces are not being cut using a computer automated jigging.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias That could defenitely be a factor, every cover is hand jigged and hand formed or so they would like to let it seem like. It would take a new old stock one of considerable age to compare pre- and after Zippo i guess. But as i sometimes heard about fit and finish issues i really wondered if it was due to management or QC or perhaps just bad luck. Thank you very much for answering my question.
Part of it comes down to price (GEC can get really steep, especially these days) but as for function... it really comes down to task. For one thing, the GEC is going to spread butter better (more belly) but the Case is going to slice that tomato. I suppose if your steak is extra tough, you might want the GEC.
It has been my opinion that some Case patterns can be trusted and some are problematic. But I'm still thinking twice before picking up a "Covid Year" Case knife.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias how do you feel about the hammerhead lock back knives? I’ve only seen them and Amber And green bone. I have a few old shark tooth knives. I really like the old shark tooth. The new hammerhead design something I haven’t had a chance to get my hands on yet. They only come and those two bone colors that I am aware of. I wish they came in more colors. The only way I know to get a different color is to have someone put some aftermarket bone on them.
Wondering if the assemblers at the Case factory just aren’t selective about matching the handles to each other That said my Sawcut Swayback has vertical cuts on the rear and horizontal on the front and looks terrific and everyone who sees it says so I guess it’s in the eye of the beholder Nice video Tobias Now I want one lol
It does seem that there is no rhyme or reason to the their sawcut bone. I've yet to see a true match. Perhaps a question for a Case forum. I don't know. At the end of the day, I'm happy with the few I have. But my OCD sometimes kicks in and I want both sides to match LOL Thanks for the input. Glad you liked the video.
Beautiful knife Tobias! Coming from someone who doesn’t know much about these, I really enjoyed this. I don’t know why but I want a knife that has bone. I just think it’s beautifully done sometimes. Who do you feel does it best?
Of the Chinese made knives, I tip my hat to Rough Ryder. But for the best bone in the knife industry… I give that to Case. I prefer Case Bone and Case Stag over GEC, even.
Great video. I've got a question about toothpicks. You may have answered this in the past but did the toothpick evolve from the fish knife or the other way around.
Sort of both. The modern toothpick has a very long history. You can trace its origins to a few different European knives, but they all seem to be related to a variety of Spanish knives. (Navaja de Albacete) with a powderhorn frame.
These knives were commonly used by fisherman and dock workers, as well as hunters. The knives evolved in to fighting knives but also kept there original purposes.
When the came to America, they retained the mythos of fighting knives as well as the practicality of being a small game knife and fishing knife.
The knives were known as powderhorn hunting knives and would pick up the name Toothpick in the 1920s or 1930s. (Most likely a name given to the pattern by Case. Camillus and many others wwer calling their Toothpick a SwitchBack.
In any case, around the 1920s, manufacturers started cutting scalers in the spine of single blade switchbacks and calling them Fish knives. This might have happened to improve the reputation of the knife. Later a secondary fish scaler blade was added.
So technically the Toothpick has always been a fish knife, or more accurately a small game knife or folding bird and trout knife. But it’s reputation as fighting knife over clouded it’s intended purpose. And it the early 20th century, companies made changes to the knife to emphasize its intended roll.
The medium toothpick is my favorite length for all around use. That Case looks great 👍
Thank you for your answer to Denis Kozlowski. His question was mine aswell. I like the blades that evolves like animals to fulfill the needs of common people: something to deal with hard bread, cheese and meat dry as a bone for lunch beside the plough. Many peasants were fishermen, hunters and farmers out of necessity. And the toothpick is the jack of all these trades like the lagiole in france and the navaja cabritera in spain!
The red on the fishing knife is beautiful, the jig bone and quality of the case knives can easily be seen on the video, thanks for showing.
I love toothpicks even the small ones- great for cutting tags off clothes! glad Case is making these
The oldest would be my pick, as for the blade length I wouldn't chance carrying in public, Mr Plod would definitely say it was illegal, looking forward to seeing the next one.
Beautiful Case knives! Those are one of my favorite patterns!!!!!
Another enjoyable video. I love the Case Sawcut jigging. I wish it was available more commonly. The Pocket Worn is my favorite but the Sawcut comes in a close second.
Case's saw that does the sawcut, likes to keep the employees guessing.🤣
The color on the bone fish knife is gorgeous!!
I love the new emojis. . And to anyone else reading this join the membership. Tobias has some good member only videos .
I have a single Case Medium Toothpick in Burnt Cream Bone with barn board jigging, and I hope to add another to the collection soon. I seem to get good knives from Case, so sticking with them.
I don't own any Case but tiny toothpicks. It's nice to see one in hand.
My gosh what a nice looking knife! The covers on that one look wonderful. Thanks for showing this one off, buddy!
I sort of wished the covers matched but then I also like the way both sides looks. So there is also that. Thanks for dropping by!
Some very delightful knives! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, I think I need at least one more. But first I need to get the moths out of my wallet.
Gorgeous knife. Seems to me that the past few Case knives I’ve gotten have seem to upped in quality control and finish. If they make one in CV or yellow I’d have no choice but to grab one. Take care
I know they have made them in smooth yellow Delrin. I'm not sure about CV, however. Thanks for watching.
That is an excellent looking knife!👍👍🤠🤠🎯🎯
Awesome addition, thanks for the chat
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for dropping by!
Very attractive knife. Thanks for sharing it Tobias.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice collection of Case toothpicks! I wonder if we could petition Case to have the large toothpick be the next vault release? I really like the fish knife and lure combo, I thought it was really neat! Thanks Tobias!
I am almost certain that the last few Case Large Toothpicks were produced by either Queen, or Blue Ridge. I think this is why they have said they will never be produced again. I know that Case made both a 5 inch and a 5 1/2 inch in the past. But I think the tooling was sold or it just wore out.
The business of sawcut finishing bone is pretty interesting, I reckon. Case seems to have gone back to the circular blade after a flirtation with the bandsaw. It's probably the most cost effective way to get a nicely textured, tactile surface, but to my mind the most recent knife looks a little too much like Schrade Delrin and I hope Case don't settle on that way of doing it. The most fascinating variation I've seen is on the steel bolstered Queen knives which have convex bone with circular saw marks of even depth ... whoa. I can think of a few ways to do that, but to do it safely is a non-trivial jig making proposition. So I guess they do it the scary way. 🙂
It's something to think about. It does seem their sawcut changes quite a bit!
Wow! That first toothpick has the perfect cigar lounge look! I expected the review to be glowing 😂 as it’s one of the best Case toothpicks I believe I’ve ever seen. The sawcut looks perfect, way better imho than the straight up and down one. The smooth bone next to each bolster is reminiscent of classic Old Timers yet classier. Of course everyone has their own tastes, I’m sure many would disagree with my opinion. I do agree they should have left off the shield but it still looks good! Case lately seems to have made a habit of putting goofy looking shields on knives that I was otherwise ready to buy if not for that. Like a gaudy bright red eyesore oval on a gorgeous blue jigged bone for instance. But yours here has a perfectly matched shield if there’s got to be one. All the knives were interesting. Great video I’m watching a year later, algorithm served it up 👍
Case Saw cut Jig bone is jigging so it is just made to look like Saw cut. Case polishes the crap out it and makes the idea of the saw cut bone not work as meant to work. It just looks like saw cut bone but isn’t. It doesn’t add a better grip to the knife. However, Case Barn Board Jig Bone does. Because the bone jigging is cut deeper and polished the same direction of the jigging. It also looks shiny and works too. If saw cut is smooth as a Babies Butt, it doesn’t do a thing to add better grip just looks good.🤣😂
I have to say, I like the older sawcut jigging on my Rough Riders to Case. It is one area where Rough Ryder does it better than Case. I do feel that Case is using a better quality bone but their traditional method of sawcut jigging is lacking. I agree also with the Case Barnboard jigging. It is definitely the superior option to Case sawcut.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias The idea of saw cut bone is to add grip, but today people buy pants with holes in them and pay more. Just as they buy pocket warn bone that is supposed to look like an old knife. The funniest of all is, selling hats that have worn out brims and sell them for more. I just made mine own working wearing one until it looked like one. People thought it looked cool and it became a fashion statement. Wearing worn out clothes, hats and buying knives made look old cracks me up.🤣😅😂
Nice collection Tobias. I find that medium toothpicks are more pocket friendly than the larger ones so after carrying a few large ones for some time I dropped them in favor of medium sized. I wish Case had the selection Frost does. lol
I'm still toting my Large Rough Ryder. I might try this one for size for a while. Frost does make quite a few medium toothpicks as well as small-medium 3 1/2 inch toothpicks. I recently picked one of the 3 1/2 inchers up. I'll need to talk about it.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Hey buddy, I have a NIB 3.5" Toothpick that I would like to send to you. It's from 2010 made by CRKT in their Classic Pocket Knives series which had 3" & 3.5" Toothpicks, small and regular Trappers, a Congress, a Whittler, and a Stockman (the last three are 3.5"). I have your info just let me know if you could use it and I'll send it off.
@@bdh3949 You don't have to ask me twice! Thanks for the kind offer. I'd love that knife!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Roger that.
The Amber Bone Sawcut Jig medium Toothpick(really long name) is a very fine quality knife. The fact that both sides don't have the same angle of the sawcut pattern may be due to human error and only a few have that, or they didn't care and slipped it through QC. But that's the only minor issue on this knife. Did you experience difference in quality/fit and finish or otherwise since Zippo took over Case? The Fishknife is very awesome btw, very nice detail they put on a hooksharpener instead of a shield and the colour is absolutely fabulous. Thank you for a great video Tobias.
That is hard to say. Zippo has owned Case for almost 30 years. The few Case knives I own from the pre-Zippo days were purchased used. As best I can tell, Case intentionally doesn't match the sawcut covers. I've yet to get or see one that has matched sawcut covers. One of mine is actually a Tony Bose knife, and those are made to a higher QC standard yet the sawcut doesn't match. I think the point the illusion they are shooting for is that the pieces are not being cut using a computer automated jigging.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias That could defenitely be a factor, every cover is hand jigged and hand formed or so they would like to let it seem like. It would take a new old stock one of considerable age to compare pre- and after Zippo i guess. But as i sometimes heard about fit and finish issues i really wondered if it was due to management or QC or perhaps just bad luck. Thank you very much for answering my question.
Great looking knife! 👍
Thanks. There's a Mediterranean Blue Bone calling my name, but when I open my wallet, a moth flies out. It'll have to wait. LOL.
To me it is absolutely beautiful! I'm definitely at heart a slip joint man because that is beautiful!👍👍🤠🤠🎯🎯🔪🔪🗡🗡😎😎 I watched it again oops
Watch it as often as you like. Case does a great medium toothpick. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias 👍👍🤠🤠
I think the GEC 12 is slightly preferable to me, but hard to say unless I were to use both.
Part of it comes down to price (GEC can get really steep, especially these days) but as for function... it really comes down to task. For one thing, the GEC is going to spread butter better (more belly) but the Case is going to slice that tomato. I suppose if your steak is extra tough, you might want the GEC.
Thanks for the video. Looks like the quality control is getting a little bit better.
It has been my opinion that some Case patterns can be trusted and some are problematic. But I'm still thinking twice before picking up a "Covid Year" Case knife.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias how do you feel about the hammerhead lock back knives? I’ve only seen them and Amber And green bone. I have a few old shark tooth knives. I really like the old shark tooth. The new hammerhead design something I haven’t had a chance to get my hands on yet. They only come and those two bone colors that I am aware of. I wish they came in more colors. The only way I know to get a different color is to have someone put some aftermarket bone on them.
I really like a medium toothpick. Did you get my member email ?
nice case
Thanks!
Wondering if the assemblers at the Case factory just aren’t selective about matching the handles to each other That said my Sawcut Swayback has vertical cuts on the rear and horizontal on the front and looks terrific and everyone who sees it says so I guess it’s in the eye of the beholder Nice video Tobias Now I want one lol
It does seem that there is no rhyme or reason to the their sawcut bone. I've yet to see a true match. Perhaps a question for a Case forum. I don't know. At the end of the day, I'm happy with the few I have.
But my OCD sometimes kicks in and I want both sides to match LOL
Thanks for the input. Glad you liked the video.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias
I like your videos They just trigger spending sprees if I am not careful lol
Tobias great knife but i find case pretty dang expensive and fit and finish aint good pity i own only two case knives 👍🇬🇧🐾🦊
Beautiful knife Tobias! Coming from someone who doesn’t know much about these, I really enjoyed this. I don’t know why but I want a knife that has bone. I just think it’s beautifully done sometimes. Who do you feel does it best?
Of the Chinese made knives, I tip my hat to Rough Ryder. But for the best bone in the knife industry… I give that to Case. I prefer Case Bone and Case Stag over GEC, even.
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I would need to see it. I'm not at all familiar with it.