These are wonderful mounts and I tried a borrowed one and honestly I prefer my Warne 100% and Aero Precision mounts. It’s when DOD is mentioned that justifies the insane pricing. Semper Fidelis
He acts like DOD soliciting a company is a special thing. Anyone that’s worked in the industry know DOD will try to get companies to build shit for free. All in the name of a potential contract. Hell folks DOD even solicited SlideFire ...Yes the bump stock company ... so come on people. It’s the government. Not the smartest minds.
Those pockets are for weight reduction. The true stiffness is decreased but the specific stiffness is increased (stiffness per unit weight). Nitpicking a little I know, but that is the case.
Don't Tread On Me I caught this too. So much of what this guy is saying is just close enough to true to be super irritating. A salesman who knows just enough technical jargon to sell people who don't actually understand what he's talking about.
Man this really looks awesome. Biting the bullet on that price is going to be hard though, considering that the scope I'm interested in costs less than 500
Daniel Stein the mount has more of an impact on accuracy than your scope. You can have good rings and a shit scope and do better than a great scope that has shit rings and a wandering zero
couldn't find shit about the weight of these mounts on the website! had to come to to the video and the video persuaded me to buy more Geissele stuff!!
This new ALCOA 2099 mount with titanium crossbolts will probably be double the current $350 price. A Vortex Optics Razor HD Gen III is approximately $2,550, Geissele Super Duty Rifle, 16", 5.56MM, $2,500. That's $5-K plus a Geissele ALCOA 2099 mount ($$$$) and a $450 Surefire M312C Scout Light. Plan on a $6,000 build.
I doubt it man. That would require some sort of dampener I think. The only scope I've ever heard of holding up on a SCAR-H over any length of time is an ELCAN. Kind of cost prohibitive though.
I’m using a Trijicon Accupower 1-8x28 Scope with this Geissele mount on my POF P415 Edge Gen 4 AR in 5.56mm. I’ve switched it out a couple of times with my ACOG & this mount-scope is steady like a rock with no noticeable shift in zero! NONE. 🇺🇸
A very convincing video! I want to get out my wallet. He makes a number of great points about why the mount is superior, however I have to wonder what drawbacks this mount has (other than price).
So the reason dod wanted a different scope mount is because they were crushing scopes. Are they completely against lapping the rings before mounting the scope? Am I missing something here? And is it recommended to lap the Geissele mount or just completely unnecessary?
+GeisseleAutomatics What type of CNC machining centers are you using in your shop? Makino? Mori Seiki? I'd love to have the chance to fix your machines one day. Love your products.
Used all the top end scope rings with cross bolts, Leopold, Badger, NF. They all seem to work loose over time via recoil. How do you counter this? Loctite?
It really depends on what scope you use and what eye relief you are looking for. You can always call or email us to reach our Weapon Techs and get pointed in the right direction.
@@GeisseleAutomatics ok! Because I am looking to put a 1-4 or 1-6 optic on a BCM recce. Id like the rear of the optic to basically kind of line up with charging handle. I am 6'2, long arms, long length of pull. Thanks! What extend is the SOPMOD vortex mount? Standard? Extend? Hyper extend?
Am I the only one who sees what is really going on here? The editing dept placed that background music to make a mockery of señior Bill Geissele. Makes it seem like he's in a cheap porno or something. I shouldn't be laughing this hard at 0330 in the morning.
Mr Geissele I think you know more about AR15/AR10 Triggers than anyone walking around today. I think you are one heck of a salesman too..LOL I dont doubt that you know what you are doing..But I also know Our GOVT' wastes a LOT of money is every thing they make,Build,design & Buy...So with that said how do you think the everyday person can pay these over priced prices on these parts you design in Govt Specs with Govt Prices.
Everytime you use the word "exactly" it makes my teeth hurt. The first thing any precision engineer learns is there is no such thing as perfect or exact.
Look, I'm sure that this is a very nice scope mount. That said, I believe that this product is way to expensive, and perhaps, way too "over-engingered" for most users. More than $250 for a scope mount? C'mon, give me a break.
I totally agree with you that's why I run F3rmachine scope mounts! Give them a look they are a great company with great customer service and even better one piece scope mounts for a very reasonable price considering the Heavy duty build Quality. Be sure to tell them that @LakeViewOutdoors sent ya! 👊😎🇺🇸
Please do me and yourself a favor and go check out @F3rmachine one piece scope mounts. They are precision-machined and very high quality for a very reasonable price considering build Quality. You will be very impressed with a Fantastic company and even better customer service! 👊😎🇺🇸 Be sure to tell them that @LakeViewOutdoors sent you their way!!!
Wow ... He sure does believe his oral skills are amazing 😆. Sad thing is if you look over some of the independent testing done on his mount, they aren’t going anything other companies don’t accomplish. Great mount for sure but not something super precision special. Lol 😂
Why on earth are you doing this out of a billet of 7075 when an extrusion would save so much money and time as well as being just as high quality and precise. You're making a $200 mount cost nearly $200 more. Doing this product from billet shows a lack of commitment to this line.
+Sam_Cummins Says a guy who does not understand the differences, metallurgically speaking. Its like a child arguing with their parent about the birds and the bee's...
Oh please, educate me. An extrusion is a billet that instead of being extruded and cut into blocks and wasting material, it's formed into a shape that requires less material to produce the finished mount. Why wouldn't you want to reduce the amount of material required per unit and reduce the cost per unit in the long run?
Like I said, you are not well educated in alloys nor the processes. An extrusion isnt a "billet" its in fact, an "extrusion". Google for more details, im not typing that much. A billet is a block of "cast" aluminum that is ready to be machined and is usually square or rectangular. You only know enough to sound stupid to someone like Bill Geissele, the key is the alloy he is using (7075) and the necessity for even, precise, density and grain structure. All that being said, before you call someone out who knows exactly what he is doing, make sure you actually know as much as you think you do, thats all...
YZFoFittie is right. Billet aluminum will have different properties than an extruded blank. Sam, maybe you are confusing the extruded aluminum blank with that of a forged blank... The forged blank could be shaped to produce less waste and less machining and still retain the mechanical properties of the design specs. But the cost of the dies for a forging are very expensive and the volume of the mfg. needs to justify the forging setup costs. I am sure if BG gets an order from the DoD to make a million of these, that is the route he would go to cut down on mfg cost and machine time, but if he is only make a thousand or so a year, purchasing billet aluminum stock and doing extra machining is the way to go financially. Just my 2 cents...
Sam_Cummins lol I like how they say you're wrong when you asked a debating question, but no one answers but instead does the hillbilly Bob move around and just points the finger saying you're wrong without discussing it. #genius
5:20 mark made it worth the watch
These are wonderful mounts and I tried a borrowed one and honestly I prefer my Warne 100% and Aero Precision mounts. It’s when DOD is mentioned that justifies the insane pricing. Semper Fidelis
He acts like DOD soliciting a company is a special thing. Anyone that’s worked in the industry know DOD will try to get companies to build shit for free. All in the name of a potential contract. Hell folks DOD even solicited SlideFire ...Yes the bump stock company ... so come on people. It’s the government. Not the smartest minds.
Everyone: It's just a scope mount... Bill: Just listen to me for a few minutes... Everyone: I'll buy 3...
Lol the power of the "tech story"
Yaa
I should just direct deposit to Geissele.
Same
Great products. Great people. Solid business partners. Thanks, Bill
Same can be said about you guys, awesome companies
I have two of these gems, 30mm and 34mm. They are worth every penny! It is a rock solid mount even before you lock down the screws!!
them mounts are beautiful.
Those pockets are for weight reduction. The true stiffness is decreased but the specific stiffness is increased (stiffness per unit weight). Nitpicking a little I know, but that is the case.
Don't Tread On Me o ya
Yeah exactly, he's just a salesman.
What he's saying is by doing it he can make it thicker than add for weight. It's common practice in machinery
Don't Tread On Me I caught this too. So much of what this guy is saying is just close enough to true to be super irritating. A salesman who knows just enough technical jargon to sell people who don't actually understand what he's talking about.
Man this really looks awesome. Biting the bullet on that price is going to be hard though, considering that the scope I'm interested in costs less than 500
$10 or $10,000 socpe all comes down to how well it is mounted to your rig
Daniel Stein the mount has more of an impact on accuracy than your scope. You can have good rings and a shit scope and do better than a great scope that has shit rings and a wandering zero
thanks guys
Blemulas on sale for $160-180 for these mounts ain’t bad. If I didn’t have my Warne mount, I would be so on this. Gray color would be nice
couldn't find shit about the weight of these mounts on the website! had to come to to the video and the video persuaded me to buy more Geissele stuff!!
Need to add a little leveling screw in the middle to level your scope. Also need to make a 1.70 mount.
Sounds like you need a scalarworks mount. Lol.
And all sold out in .003 seconds as soon as they are released.
I have ALG hand guards and Geissele triggers in my ARs.. love them... You do get what you pay for though..... Buy once, be happy for ever...
Hey when are you guys gonna have the geisselee scope mount and razor HD gen 2 mrad COMBO back in stock? I need to order it!
Wow! Truly amazing. These guys don’t cut corners.
This new ALCOA 2099 mount with titanium crossbolts will probably be double the current $350 price.
A Vortex Optics Razor HD Gen III is approximately $2,550, Geissele Super Duty Rifle, 16", 5.56MM, $2,500. That's $5-K plus a Geissele ALCOA 2099 mount ($$$$) and a $450 Surefire M312C Scout Light.
Plan on a $6,000 build.
0.o oh daddy likes!!!!! Keep it up Geissele!!! Churning out great stuff guys!!
I’ll take 3! Just kidding. I am getting one this Saturday in on a trade so I was curious to know more about them. Good sales pitch. 👍🏻
Can you explain to us if Geissele mount can save scopes when mounted on the SCAR 17. I think a good mount can damp out the vibration.
I doubt it man. That would require some sort of dampener I think. The only scope I've ever heard of holding up on a SCAR-H over any length of time is an ELCAN. Kind of cost prohibitive though.
Swfa will hold up at an affordable price point.
Go with either Vortex, Trijicon, or an Eotech VUDU all of their warranties are Ironclad. Just don't tell them you put it on a SCAR 17
@@a_k_bryson So far with the Geissele, I haven't had any issue messing up the optic.
I’m using a Trijicon Accupower 1-8x28 Scope with this Geissele mount on my POF P415 Edge Gen 4 AR in 5.56mm. I’ve switched it out a couple of times with my ACOG & this mount-scope is steady like a rock with no noticeable shift in zero! NONE. 🇺🇸
Fantastic explanation
wouldn’t mind a custom machined upper with this accessory as one piece
A very convincing video! I want to get out my wallet. He makes a number of great points about why the mount is superior, however I have to wonder what drawbacks this mount has (other than price).
Hell Yeah!!! Deez Nuts don't have to be torqued up!!! 5:20
HAHAHA
I know I’m 8 years late 😂 but will these hold up on a scar 17? paired with a vudu 1-10 if that matters at all.
Say DoD and Special Operations more bro. You earned it 😏
Nothing groundbreaking but boy do you charge a groundbreaking price.
yeah well too bad you never have them in stock, huh? It doesnt matter how good they are if you cant even get them
Just experienced that.
So the reason dod wanted a different scope mount is because they were crushing scopes. Are they completely against lapping the rings before mounting the scope? Am I missing something here? And is it recommended to lap the Geissele mount or just completely unnecessary?
+GeisseleAutomatics What type of CNC machining centers are you using in your shop? Makino? Mori Seiki? I'd love to have the chance to fix your machines one day. Love your products.
Thomas Underhill guessing it’s Haas.
Ordered one yesterday. Oh yeah!
How much does a 30mm extend weight?
Used all the top end scope rings with cross bolts, Leopold, Badger, NF. They all seem to work loose over time via recoil. How do you counter this? Loctite?
loctite
Works Great !
what about the height?? is this same as SPR 1.93?
How do you know which extend you need? Standard, extend, or hyper extend....?
It really depends on what scope you use and what eye relief you are looking for. You can always call or email us to reach our Weapon Techs and get pointed in the right direction.
@@GeisseleAutomatics ok! Because I am looking to put a 1-4 or 1-6 optic on a BCM recce. Id like the rear of the optic to basically kind of line up with charging handle. I am 6'2, long arms, long length of pull. Thanks! What extend is the SOPMOD vortex mount? Standard? Extend? Hyper extend?
when is your release date
All this talk of stiffness is getting me stiff
Am I the only one who sees what is really going on here? The editing dept placed that background music to make a mockery of señior Bill Geissele. Makes it seem like he's in a cheap porno or something. I shouldn't be laughing this hard at 0330 in the morning.
Great product, when will you be re-stocking?
very soon! Sign up for email notifications on our webpage!
Mr Geissele I think you know more about AR15/AR10 Triggers than anyone walking around today.
I think you are one heck of a salesman too..LOL
I dont doubt that you know what you are doing..But I also know Our GOVT' wastes a LOT of money is every thing they make,Build,design & Buy...So with that said how do you think the everyday person can pay these over priced prices on these parts you design in Govt Specs with Govt Prices.
make half the price and it will be ok ))
Shut up, and take my credit score!!!
..but you'll need to have a mortgage on it to own one.
Do not buy these off of eBay...! There's a lot of good counterfeit mounts .
im sold
Neat but I can’t pay that much for it 😂
yew YOU CAN! DUMB THAT GIRL AN SAVE UP
How much do I have to pay to get one for my M1A/M14? I'm sold. I want one. Give me a number... $$$
$300-330🇺🇸
Everytime you use the word "exactly" it makes my teeth hurt. The first thing any precision engineer learns is there is no such thing as perfect or exact.
Hi, I was a tool and die maker.... I HATE THAT WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perfect is the other one....
Made with...a High Degree of Precision!
Look, I'm sure that this is a very nice scope mount. That said, I believe that this product is
way to expensive, and perhaps, way too "over-engingered" for most users. More than $250
for a scope mount? C'mon, give me a break.
I totally agree with you that's why I run F3rmachine scope mounts! Give them a look they are a great company with great customer service and even better one piece scope mounts for a very reasonable price considering the Heavy duty build Quality. Be sure to tell them that @LakeViewOutdoors sent ya! 👊😎🇺🇸
very nice..but way overpriced...I'll stick to wilson combat
5:18 bad bill
No QD???
No way I can justify the cost
Please do me and yourself a favor and go check out @F3rmachine one piece scope mounts. They are precision-machined and very high quality for a very reasonable price considering build Quality. You will be very impressed with a Fantastic company and even better customer service! 👊😎🇺🇸 Be sure to tell them that @LakeViewOutdoors sent you their way!!!
Wow ... He sure does believe his oral skills are amazing 😆.
Sad thing is if you look over some of the independent testing done on his mount, they aren’t going anything other companies don’t accomplish.
Great mount for sure but not something super precision special. Lol 😂
Source?
TO EXPENSIVE
Why on earth are you doing this out of a billet of 7075 when an extrusion would save so much money and time as well as being just as high quality and precise. You're making a $200 mount cost nearly $200 more. Doing this product from billet shows a lack of commitment to this line.
+Sam_Cummins Says a guy who does not understand the differences, metallurgically speaking. Its like a child arguing with their parent about the birds and the bee's...
Oh please, educate me.
An extrusion is a billet that instead of being extruded and cut into blocks and wasting material, it's formed into a shape that requires less material to produce the finished mount. Why wouldn't you want to reduce the amount of material required per unit and reduce the cost per unit in the long run?
Like I said, you are not well educated in alloys nor the processes. An extrusion isnt a "billet" its in fact, an "extrusion". Google for more details, im not typing that much. A billet is a block of "cast" aluminum that is ready to be machined and is usually square or rectangular. You only know enough to sound stupid to someone like Bill Geissele, the key is the alloy he is using (7075) and the necessity for even, precise, density and grain structure. All that being said, before you call someone out who knows exactly what he is doing, make sure you actually know as much as you think you do, thats all...
YZFoFittie is right. Billet aluminum will have different properties than an extruded blank. Sam, maybe you are confusing the extruded aluminum blank with that of a forged blank... The forged blank could be shaped to produce less waste and less machining and still retain the mechanical properties of the design specs. But the cost of the dies for a forging are very expensive and the volume of the mfg. needs to justify the forging setup costs. I am sure if BG gets an order from the DoD to make a million of these, that is the route he would go to cut down on mfg cost and machine time, but if he is only make a thousand or so a year, purchasing billet aluminum stock and doing extra machining is the way to go financially. Just my 2 cents...
Sam_Cummins lol I like how they say you're wrong when you asked a debating question, but no one answers but instead does the hillbilly Bob move around and just points the finger saying you're wrong without discussing it. #genius
Oh my Gad. Nevermind. Whatever. Not my $.
way overpriced mounts